Stupid Gun Myths - Episode 3: "They could use our ammo, but we couldn't use theirs."

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@theduke7539
@theduke7539 4 жыл бұрын
"It fires 7.62, so we can use their ammo" that's like saying you put antifreeze in your oil to keep your car warm
@TommygunNG
@TommygunNG 4 жыл бұрын
You mean that doesn't work? Oops.
@mxcherryblue5943
@mxcherryblue5943 4 жыл бұрын
Just like in a book I read, put diesel as antifreeze It was a fiction novel BTW
@Drew_Thompson
@Drew_Thompson 4 жыл бұрын
The Duke but I do put antifreeze in my oil to keep my car warm.
@one5e
@one5e 4 жыл бұрын
Also like saying you can shoot a thumbtack with a bow cause thumbtacks and arrows have sharp tips
@manyhammers5944
@manyhammers5944 4 жыл бұрын
MxCherryBlue I had a 95 7.3l with a bad injector cup that leaked diesel into the coolant,drove it that way for a year,sold it to friend after that. He fixed it and it still runs just fine.
@shoelessbandit1581
@shoelessbandit1581 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact you can shoot 300 blackout out of a 223... once
@manyhammers5944
@manyhammers5944 4 жыл бұрын
Shoeless Bandit True
@markiplierSINGSbadly
@markiplierSINGSbadly 4 жыл бұрын
other way around lol
@guyman9655
@guyman9655 4 жыл бұрын
That works for quite a few guns.
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot 4 жыл бұрын
@Ryan Sherlin Tried it with a .300 loaded sans powder/primer. It won't chamber unless you beat the fuck out of the forward assist. Anybody who's ever blown an AR up by attempting to fire a .300 Blackout in a 5.56 barrel is a dumbfuck who basically did it on purpose.
@grahamlopez6202
@grahamlopez6202 4 жыл бұрын
You can fire any bullet in any gun once if you try really really hard.
@IGaveUpSecondsAgo
@IGaveUpSecondsAgo 4 жыл бұрын
My dad said he heard this during his time in the army. He didn’t believe me when I pointed out how stupid it sounded.
@ironstarofmordian7098
@ironstarofmordian7098 4 жыл бұрын
That's sad.
@daveason3385
@daveason3385 4 жыл бұрын
They got told this after Vietnam
@robertsmith4681
@robertsmith4681 4 жыл бұрын
I know of one such "myth" dating back to ww2 in the pacific but that one involved the the British 303 and Japanese 7.7
@Highspeedoffset1
@Highspeedoffset1 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertsmith4681 The Japanese 7.7 had 3 iterations, rimless, semi-rim and rimmed. The rimmed version is a direct copy of .303 British and interchangeable with it.
@zacharyrollick6169
@zacharyrollick6169 4 жыл бұрын
@@Highspeedoffset1 I had thought the 6.5 was the only semi-rimmed there, but the more you know. More info, the rimmed version was intended for machinegun use and was loaded hotter. They say the machine gun could fire both rounds with alteration, even mixed.
@HydraHolden
@HydraHolden 4 жыл бұрын
"I like hearing my own voice because it echos quite well in mommy's basement." Internet gold!
@billythekid4793
@billythekid4793 4 жыл бұрын
Have to admit his mom has a nice basement its carpet lighting might even have heat. Me im stuck in a cold damn concrete basement eating a stray cat. On a side note would you happen to know the signs of rabies i think that stray cat had something wrong with it?
@darthmusturd9526
@darthmusturd9526 4 жыл бұрын
Wilhelm Something foaming at the mouth. Not drinking water, having rabies, eating cats
@billythekid4793
@billythekid4793 4 жыл бұрын
@@darthmusturd9526 so that's what was coming out of my mouth thanks. On a side that stray cat was great really filling I haven't needed to drink anything for a couple of days.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 4 жыл бұрын
@@erlycuyler what you have heat? J/K. Beats me I am in the attic.
@GothicSnowLeopard
@GothicSnowLeopard 4 жыл бұрын
funny, I read the comment the second he said it
@TheeCambion
@TheeCambion 4 жыл бұрын
Wait your telling me they make specific ammunition for specific rifles? Wow that's ingenious .
@helios5868
@helios5868 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I know. Next they'll be putting things on top to help you aim. Probably not in my lifetime, though, lol!
@dELTA13579111315
@dELTA13579111315 4 жыл бұрын
@@helios5868 I've even heard tale of the fabled "underbarrel mounted chainsaw." If this legendary beast really exists, then why doesn't every single American man woman and child have one yet? No...if they existed we wouldn't be in the dark age anymore.....woe is me.
@wetlettuce4768
@wetlettuce4768 4 жыл бұрын
Next thing you will be telling me is gas won't work in my diesel truck!
@jakartagamer6188
@jakartagamer6188 4 жыл бұрын
wait, guns can fire bullets?
@akdeath5003
@akdeath5003 4 жыл бұрын
No it isn't it's cause the size of them barrel and the stocking power
@Swindle1984
@Swindle1984 4 жыл бұрын
I keep having people tell me how a Marine buddy showed them his .50-cal Desert Eagle that he was issued, and how he had depleted uranium rounds for it to shoot tanks with. I then have to explain how 1) no military issues the Desert Eagle, 2) there is no DU ammo for any handgun in existence, and 3) even if you did make a DU round for a Desert Eagle, no handgun can penetrate a tank. Otherwise we'd all be shooting tanks with pistols instead of rocket launchers and 120mm cannon. But this myth is VERY consistent in its details, and it's always a 'Marine buddy' who told them about it, never someone in the army. Makes me wonder if there's some jarhead going around telling people BS to see how far it'll spread.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's pretty easy to spot bullshit if your IQ is in the triple digits.
@stephenbritton9297
@stephenbritton9297 4 жыл бұрын
@@MikeB128 Never trust anyone that thinks Crayons are a food group!
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 4 жыл бұрын
@@stephenbritton9297 👍
@nikbrady14
@nikbrady14 4 жыл бұрын
It's bullshit dude lol
@billythekid4793
@billythekid4793 4 жыл бұрын
@@stephenbritton9297 wait your telling me that shouldn't eat crayons? What's next I shouldn't eat paint chips?
@nigelrobson505
@nigelrobson505 4 жыл бұрын
When I was a soldier in the British Army and serving in Germany, I met several US soldiers who had been told this. In basic training, British soldiers often got to handle and on occasion even fire examples of our opponents' weapons as part of understanding the capabilities of our "enemies" firepower, so we knew this to be bollocks.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 4 жыл бұрын
As a US soldier after basic training in my regular units. I had several chances to fire numerous captured weapons.
@Itsallron
@Itsallron 4 жыл бұрын
Does the US not get this type of training on a regular basis? purely for interest, not starting a comment war here.
@MrTangolizard
@MrTangolizard 4 жыл бұрын
Gareth Fairclough when did u join the army ? Because in 2003 while in the British army we used captured and foreign weapons often at either firepower demos or just range familiarisation days I fired loads of different rifles machine guns and even fired RPGs
@Modi_
@Modi_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@professionalschizo the point isnt to familiarise them for using enemy weapons, its more of a way to understand how capable the average guy with an akm is.
@SJMORG
@SJMORG 4 жыл бұрын
We brits are the best when it comes to respecting and understanding our enemies though no matter the situation
@galil5563
@galil5563 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh how can this even become a myth instead of a joke
@maxie706
@maxie706 4 жыл бұрын
this was popular around soldiers who fought either side of the falklands war with metric/imperial FALs. Only ones who can believe this with legitimacy
@Turgz
@Turgz 4 жыл бұрын
@@maxie706 That goes without saying, as 7.62 NATO's specs are standardized, but argentine ammo was loaded hotter than english ammo so you'd have to readjust the gas setting to use it reliably.
@NoNameAtAll2
@NoNameAtAll2 4 жыл бұрын
upotte fan! ^_^
@DGetsStacks
@DGetsStacks 4 жыл бұрын
Nice name 👍
@sanction7627
@sanction7627 4 жыл бұрын
"The reason we lost in Vietnam is because the AK could use M16 ammo but we couldn't use theirs"-Drill Sergeant at Ft. Benning Infantry OSUT, 1979...........
@votuanphu6299
@votuanphu6299 4 жыл бұрын
good joke mister Sergeant
@cdcdrr
@cdcdrr 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the US lost because the popular support and political will had been drained by poor media control, unpopularity of the draft, a lame duck president facing impeachment, and the seemingly infinite determination of North Vietnam/Vietcong to expell a foreign power. Good thing we have that drill sergeant to straigthen it all out.
@wyatterminator3761
@wyatterminator3761 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah them 5.56 and 7.62 firing aks
@cancerousnut7767
@cancerousnut7767 4 жыл бұрын
Apple Tek Support Funny joke
@cortex8239
@cortex8239 4 жыл бұрын
@Apple Tek Support Man, you should be a jester! You're already a professorial!
@Kingj411
@Kingj411 4 жыл бұрын
Personal Favorite Myth goes to “Shotguns are only lethal at point blank range”
@deasttn
@deasttn 4 жыл бұрын
Or that you don't have to really aim a shotgun (the pattern spread is a few inches at a few yards... Hardly a big spray gun)
@pianofry1138
@pianofry1138 4 жыл бұрын
I mean they lose a lot of effectivness but still you don't need the whole load to die.
@doomdave475
@doomdave475 4 жыл бұрын
@Piano Fry No, have you ever seen a duckhunt, a long barrel and tight choke can make a shotgun effective at even a 100 m. In CQC a shotgun rips your arm off if it hits there, at 50m you'll be incapacitated and bleed for a few seconds (still more effective than a non hollow point 5.56) unless your head is hit.
@shrimpshot1581
@shrimpshot1581 4 жыл бұрын
This one for sure came from a video game player that never shot a gun in their life
@Gunneramma
@Gunneramma 4 жыл бұрын
@@shrimpshot1581 yep
@brianmurphy950
@brianmurphy950 4 жыл бұрын
When I was in the service back in the late 80s and early 90s my Plt Sgt. told me in no uncertain terms that the Soviets could take our ammo and use it in their guns, but we couldn't do the same. The military is full of dingbats that regurgitate more bullshit, but I'm hoping that things have changed in the last 20+ years.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Thank Christ for the internet. I was never told any of this bullshit in Basic or in my unit.
@brianmurphy950
@brianmurphy950 4 жыл бұрын
@@MikeB128 Yeah I think the internet has helped to get rid of all of the worst of it.
@Jays_video_watcher
@Jays_video_watcher 4 жыл бұрын
Fully semi automatic
@jeffbangle4710
@jeffbangle4710 4 жыл бұрын
I was an Air Force intel specialist back in the 80's, and the AF Threat Museum at Nellis repeated this myth as part of their official tour.
@Dakurar
@Dakurar 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha. No. The army will promote the biggest fucking idiots bc the smart people get out.
@BushcraftingBogan
@BushcraftingBogan 4 жыл бұрын
“We fired Russian 7.62 rounds from our M-60s” LOL. Must have been one of those Air Force SEAL Marine Berets from the CIA that you hear wooing every female at every club in a base town.
@NevilofMars
@NevilofMars 4 жыл бұрын
Are those the Specialized Armed Forces clubs? A friend wants to know.
@fatihmehmetcevik7299
@fatihmehmetcevik7299 Жыл бұрын
Both of these are gold
@Nathan-jh1ho
@Nathan-jh1ho 4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? I always shoot 7.62x51 out of my Tokerev pistol, so it's more powerful. (Joke)
@kisaragi_san1378
@kisaragi_san1378 4 жыл бұрын
i fire 50 bmg out of a 50 gi m1911, because 50 gi isnt enough
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 4 жыл бұрын
Nathan 556 yup, the 7.62x54 has rims so it doesn’t work. 🤪
@m1a1abramstank49
@m1a1abramstank49 4 жыл бұрын
I use shotgun shells in my Desert Eagle just because they “fit”
@thequietkid399
@thequietkid399 4 жыл бұрын
I use 50 bmg in my .50 cal Both have 50 so they work ya see how it works *big brain time*
@foxtrotnine
@foxtrotnine 4 жыл бұрын
@@m1a1abramstank49 You can use 105mm in a 120mm cannon. It fits after all.
@mrchuck21521
@mrchuck21521 4 жыл бұрын
"I like metric system better." - Mike B, Historically first American to say this.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
Not really. Most people with an IQ in the triple digits agree. The Imperial system has its place, but metric is easier. I like being proficient with both.
@iguessthisisnowmyname2258
@iguessthisisnowmyname2258 4 жыл бұрын
Mike B yeah, i like it too because I don’t have to make up a goddamn saying just to remember how many feet are in a mile, I just multiply the last one by 10 or divide by 10
@aloesnazzy1897
@aloesnazzy1897 4 жыл бұрын
Most people at my college liked metric better. I’d suggest looking up why the US didn’t switch to metric. It’s stupid but it’s pretty much America for ya
@rotegino7536
@rotegino7536 4 жыл бұрын
Zombie Masher372 because they were to proud to do so
@rotegino7536
@rotegino7536 4 жыл бұрын
Jdbdhd HH ik so easy right
@dogryme6
@dogryme6 4 жыл бұрын
This is like a Doctor's equivalent of "Pee is stored in the balls." The bladder is a thing, guys.
@ethanl.9725
@ethanl.9725 4 жыл бұрын
Bad example, pee IS stored in the balls
@ethanl.9725
@ethanl.9725 4 жыл бұрын
Trust me
@batowner1
@batowner1 4 жыл бұрын
pee is stored in the balls
@kyle3625
@kyle3625 4 жыл бұрын
Pee is stored in the balls
@Jvwvhnny
@Jvwvhnny 4 жыл бұрын
Girls can’t pee because they don’t have balls
@sirjacobthe8
@sirjacobthe8 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard this myth from several US Veterans who served in the 1980s as well. It’s absolutely bonkers. Both of the guys got super pissed when I told them that wasn’t possible.
@zacharyrollick6169
@zacharyrollick6169 4 жыл бұрын
I once heard a WWII veteran claim that if you locked back the B.A.R.'s charging handle, you could belt feed it. Maybe he had been issued a Johnson back then but couldn't remember the difference.
@itzztim6987
@itzztim6987 4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be honest when I was younger, dumber and just about to get into guns I only compared the numbers before the x and thought "yeah probably the same". Boy am I happy nobody gave me a firearm back then.
@dELTA13579111315
@dELTA13579111315 4 жыл бұрын
Lol because of call of duty I used to think that the AK47 was chambered in 7.62 NATO. Obviously I know now how incredibly stupid that sounds ahaha
@ChickentNug
@ChickentNug 4 жыл бұрын
dELTA13579111315 yeah. The Warsaw Pact was literally created in retaliation to NATO, so that would be pretty funky if it were true
@charlesartificer2158
@charlesartificer2158 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Soviet 12.7mm could supposedly fire us 50 cal ammo because the soviet cartridge was a bit bigger. Funny thing is I keep seeing people stating this as fact when in reality the Soviet round and the US 50 cal round are dimensional different. In other words no swapping of ammo possible.
@a.j.s.8049
@a.j.s.8049 4 жыл бұрын
This is the one I heard. Never heard the 7.62 one. Also about our 60 and 81 mortars. They could fire ours.🤣🤣🤣🤣
@warvideos2108
@warvideos2108 4 жыл бұрын
Isnt 12.7mm 50cal?
@bjrnarjacobsen8739
@bjrnarjacobsen8739 4 жыл бұрын
@@warvideos2108 Yes. But the 50 Browning (12.7x99mm NATO) and the Soviet 12.7x108mm cartridge are not interchangable.
@charlesartificer2158
@charlesartificer2158 4 жыл бұрын
@@warvideos2108 yes and no. The bullet diamater of the soviet 12.7mm is .511 inches. Where as the us 50 bmg is .510 inches. Plus there are other differences in the shell dimensions. The overall length of the 12.7mm is 5.807 inches while the us 50 bmg overall length is 5.45 inches. Clearly the Soviet 12.7mm is physically very different than the us 50 bmg. Sorry for the long reply.
@RobertDecker417
@RobertDecker417 4 жыл бұрын
The Soviets made their cartridges similar to ours in performance, but different sizes so that ammunition could not be swapped. The USSR made a shit ton of ammo, so they didn't need to use our ammo.
@tommy9945
@tommy9945 4 жыл бұрын
Okay so i hate to admit this an it was completely by accident but I've shot a 270 Winchester out of a 300 Winchester Magnum rifle. Lets just say i almost lost my right hand but somehow my gun did not get damaged. lol Huge cloud of smoke an the side of the Cartridge blew out.
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot 4 жыл бұрын
Saved by the bullet being much smaller than the bore. Hard to get much pressure without the bullet sealing the barrel. I've seen 9mm in a .40 S&W before. Just dumb luck the primer struck, I guess. Leaves a funky halfway fire-formed case when you clear it.
@kylew1950
@kylew1950 4 жыл бұрын
immikeurnot I've shot .40sw out of a 45acp 1911, dumbass buddy loaded the mag. last round was the 40, it surprisingly didn't hand grenade thankfully. Oh it was his firearm too lol. The spent brass was torn from top to bottom and scorched almost entirely around. Needless to say when we shoot now I don't let him load my mags
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot 4 жыл бұрын
@@kylew1950 Won't grenade when you fire in a larger caliber. The bullet won't seal against the barrel, so the pressure will be extremely low.
@bogglemeister4204
@bogglemeister4204 4 жыл бұрын
@@immikeurnot i also know an idiot whos been shooting 9mm in his .40 he's not to bright but i couldnt disuade him from it
@christopherconard2831
@christopherconard2831 4 жыл бұрын
I've fired 7mm in an 8mm Mauser. Noisy, and kind of embarrassing. But the bullet just tumbled out to around the 25 yd mark. I'm sure there's a firearms safety rule about storing different ammo types together, and it's there for a reason.
@porscheguy09
@porscheguy09 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t tell you how many times over the years I heard the myth that the enemy could use our ammunition but we couldn’t use theirs. A guy in high school argued several times with me saying that they couldn’t load our ammunition into their magazines but they could load and fire each round individually. It was my dad who served in Vietnam, that showed me when I was about 12 or 13 why it wouldn’t work because of the different casing sizes. People think a 7.62 is the same and will work in any 7.62. The same kid thought the Desert Eagle .50 AE fired the same .50 BMG as a Barrett M107/M82. A fifty was a fifty in his mind. Looking back on it, I can understand how a teenager or kid could misunderstand the differences but an adult should be smart enough to understand why rounds like this aren’t interchangeable especially if they have the rounds side by side in front of them.
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard a similar one about mortars. "The Soviets used an 82mm mortar and that let them use our 81mm ammunition." Never mind not having anything close to a gas seal inside the tube...
@acejunkie1122
@acejunkie1122 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one that's heard this. Like having 156mm cannons.
@tomstokoe5660
@tomstokoe5660 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard that one and it's supposed to be the performance is sub-optimal because of the gas seal issue but it's still better then nothing if they've used up all their proper 82mm mortar rounds.
@normanlesley1867
@normanlesley1867 4 жыл бұрын
In the New Zealand army in the 1970,s I have seen 3in. rounds fired from the 81mm mortar with no problem but limited range.
@AllisterCaine
@AllisterCaine 4 жыл бұрын
....And thus not hitting a single shit thing using it that way.
@jackaubrey8614
@jackaubrey8614 4 жыл бұрын
@@acejunkie1122 yep, i heard this one too.... :(
@christopherdean1326
@christopherdean1326 4 жыл бұрын
I know someone who fought in the Falklands, and they told me we couldn't even reliably use the ammo from the Argentinian L1A1s because it was loaded too hot for ours to handle, even though it was the same ammo for the same rifle.
@nikbrady14
@nikbrady14 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't the Argentineans have full auto versions of the L1A1 too?
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 4 жыл бұрын
Adjusting the gas system takes ages and them you have to readjust back if you switch ammo supply back.
@Turgz
@Turgz 4 жыл бұрын
NATO only standardised on the size and dimensions of the case and projectile diameter. So some rounds are indeed more powerful than others and can also be longer or shorter overall due to different types of projectile such as AP or Sniper ammo. That is why the FAL/SLR had many adjustments to the gas block so you can "tune" your rifle to whatever ammo you're using.
@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming
@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming 4 жыл бұрын
It's possible they did load them hotter seeing as theirs were full auto and British ones weren't
@runlarryrun77
@runlarryrun77 4 жыл бұрын
@@nikbrady14 Kinda. The Argentines had a licenced version of the FAL. The L1A1 is basically a FAL but with a few minor differences. Same ammo tho.
@JRassi_Militaria
@JRassi_Militaria 4 жыл бұрын
"expert" commentators on "historical" TV shows have said this same myth about the Vietnam war.
@Gottaculat
@Gottaculat 4 жыл бұрын
I always laugh when they trot out "experts." I'm like, "Really? There's a certification course to become an expert witness for this?" I know to become an expert/certified electrical engineer, there's a crazy amount of stuff that needs to be met first, including 5 years minimum of working in the field of electrical engineering. My brother told me about it when he got his certification, and among being able to get better paying jobs, he can also be called into court as an expert witness in electrical engineering matters with that certification. So when someone says they're a firearms expert, then say something that even a firearms newbie like me knows is incorrect, you better believe in my head I'm hitting "X" for "doubt," lol!
@mikefranklin1253
@mikefranklin1253 4 жыл бұрын
I was at a party years ago and a bunch of Vets were saying this. There was no point of arguing with them, they KNEW it was true.
@runlarryrun77
@runlarryrun77 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it's safer that way. I remember when I was a kid a guy I knew told me that his granddad was a truck driver in North Africa. This kid said his grandfather came under fire one day & that a bullet, complete with brass case smashed through the windscreen, stuck into the truck headrest & he pulled it out & kept it as a souvenir for the rest of the war. So either the kid was a bullshitter or his grandfather was, but I couldn't be bothered disputing such an obvious lie.
@prestonsamson3674
@prestonsamson3674 4 жыл бұрын
I know i guy from a camp I hunt at every year and he claimed he trained SEALS then he said any 7.62 will fire out of another gun chambered for 7.62. Then he said the same about 6.5 and I confronted him about it but he ignored me because I am 16. Cant wait to show him this. I fucking hate people who say they were military when they weren't. Oh by the way he also said he tested military firearms for the military. Thats when i knew he was lying because he doesnt know shit.
@jaksahn3370
@jaksahn3370 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Hes full of shit dude
@jaksahn3370
@jaksahn3370 4 жыл бұрын
Most people that Actually do bad ass shit like for instance "train navy seals" wouldnt go around talking about it.
@romeosgenericchannel3971
@romeosgenericchannel3971 4 жыл бұрын
I served in the army 13 b cannon crew member, and since I've been out, I've worked a few dif jobs my most recent is private security (rent a cop) work Andi have ran into countless people , whom I usually don't tell that I served, and u woulsn believe the amount of bullshit I've ran into, people telling me how they were were in the army or Marines but when I ask simple questions like what do you think about ar670-1, (army regulation for proper wear of uniform, is literally pounded into ur brain ). And they have no idea what that means, or don't know what a dd214 is, easy to cut str8 thru the bs XD the diff Calibre working in dif rifles thing is just fucking absolutely ridiculous! And whoever would say some dumb shit like that, doesn't know SHIT about real weapons lol
@JonDoe-ef4tz
@JonDoe-ef4tz 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't false valor a felony?
@chase.7780
@chase.7780 4 жыл бұрын
Preston Samson bring him an sks and a super hotly loaded 7.62 NATO or .30-06 round and ask him to shoot the round out of the sks. If the moron actually finds a way to get it chambered, he’ll get a nice surprise.
@itsapittie
@itsapittie 4 жыл бұрын
That myth goes back at least to the Vietnam war because I heard it in high school. I don't know where it came from, but having now spent a career in uniform, I suspect GIs were bringing it back with them. Unfortunately, your average soldier isn't much of a "gun guy" and doesn't know much about any weapon except the one he's issued. Something gets started and is repeated over and over by people who don't have firsthand knowledge and before long it becomes accepted as fact.
@newdefsys
@newdefsys 4 жыл бұрын
Its all true ! That was the very first thing out of my friends mouth when I showed him my new STG-58 parts kit build (way back in the mid-90s). He said it with all the conviction and certainty he could muster. Its amazing how a lie can manifest itself on a global scale, even back then.
@CaseyRoman1
@CaseyRoman1 4 жыл бұрын
Another place this myth MAY be getting life from is reloaders. You CAN load a .308 bullet (the actual projectile) into 7.62x39 brass and safely fire it from an AK. Most people hear 'our bullets' fire out of a russian gun and the derp continues...
@ChakatNightspark
@ChakatNightspark 4 жыл бұрын
My Grandpa who passed away about 5 years ago actually told me about this Myth and said it was never true, since they did it all the time. But, He was in WW2. Was from Basic Training, they were told the Enemy can use our ammo, But we are forbidden to use theirs. He would then ramble on about stuff that Enemy could do, but they weren't allowed to every do. But Many would do it. Like Enemy can use our weapons, but Forbidden to use Their weapons or equipment. So I assume that's where the Ammo Myth maybe came from, WW2. but really unknown.
@keptinkaos6384
@keptinkaos6384 4 жыл бұрын
using the other guys shit was usually a good way unless in an emergency to get shot by your own guys especially during ww2
@ryanv.j.810
@ryanv.j.810 4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me who still owns no firearms at all, just how ridiculously uneducated I was about ammo and stuff when I was around 16. Got someone to rage quit in a lobby because I made the claim of .45ACP being 1shot 1kill worthy against a SWAT officer in real life 😂 My logic was .50cal rifles were barely that much more power than a .45cal pistol. I'm sure I thought I was pretty close to accurate on the claim. Now I understand how bull that was, and realise that politicians and most unarmed civs probably would believe such a claim, there go, statements about full auto .cal ar15s because, "semi auto". Lol, people are either dumb or ignorant, I was either ignorant or feeling like a troll that time. Who knows anymore. Good video by the way.
@algilder2647
@algilder2647 4 жыл бұрын
Mixing liquor and weapons talk should give you a clue that is bull
@birdie021
@birdie021 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, don't blame liquor, people who shit like this are stupid sober, too
@kelakakku
@kelakakku 4 жыл бұрын
@@birdie021 When they are drunk, they just show it more.
@jacobjohnson2603
@jacobjohnson2603 4 жыл бұрын
one time i was drunk with my older brother who doesn't know much about guns and i proceeded to give him (a very drunk, mind you) explanation of how AR's work and completely stripped it down as far as i could
@David-vg1wl
@David-vg1wl 4 жыл бұрын
The rumor I heard was that AK-74 and AK-102 could use our 5.56 but we couldn't use theirs because their bullets are too large to fit in the M-16 chamber.
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot 4 жыл бұрын
Heh. Even though the AK-74 fires 5.45x39mm, which is something like a .21 caliber bullet? But it's bigger than the .224" used in 5.56.
@David-vg1wl
@David-vg1wl 4 жыл бұрын
@@immikeurnot It was a rumor that I heard, I never argued because I didn't care. :-) But the AK-102 is chambered in 5.56 though. What happened to that project I have no idea.
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot 4 жыл бұрын
@@David-vg1wl I think the 102 is an export. Not the first 5.56 AK, but uses regular 5.56.
@Crlarl
@Crlarl 4 жыл бұрын
@@immikeurnot 5.56 NATO bullet diameter is 5.70mm (0.224in). 5.45×39mm bullet diameter is 5.60mm (0.220in).
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot 4 жыл бұрын
@@Crlarl There it is. I couldn't be bothered to look it up, but do remember the Soviet bullet is smaller. .004" in diameter is the difference between "pew pew" and "kaboom" at rifle pressures.
@vasilis23456
@vasilis23456 4 жыл бұрын
I would think the myth would be opposite because the 7.62x51 is larger.
@boymahina123
@boymahina123 4 жыл бұрын
Bottlenecked cartridges headspace on the shoulder so that's very dangerous trying to chamber a shorter cartridge in a longer chamber, no matter how slight the difference.
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 4 жыл бұрын
boymahina123 the chamber can gather enough gas to explode. Some guns are designed with this in mind because they are prone to pushing back bullets when chambering due to poor maintenance from their conscript troops. I believe the SKS can handle such pressures and there are mods so it can shoot 7.62x25 as well due to this enhanced chamber thickness. Again, wrong caliber for the gun so just don’t.
@kdmag8858
@kdmag8858 4 жыл бұрын
@@boymahina123 True, but I get what Vasilis is saying. While insanely stupidly dangerous, I would rather attempt to fire a x39 in a x51 chamber than basically fire a x51 a 1/4'' out of battery.
@adriaandeleeuw8339
@adriaandeleeuw8339 4 жыл бұрын
@@boymahina123 that only applies to Rimless cartridges, with rimmed cartridges like the .303 British that does not always apply.
@thatwhiteguy_4206
@thatwhiteguy_4206 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, is that a real rhodesian magazine. If so that too cool. Piece of history there!!
@PilotTed
@PilotTed 4 жыл бұрын
I have never even heard of this before
@tlshortyshorty5810
@tlshortyshorty5810 4 жыл бұрын
Unexpected SPANISH INQUISITION Guess it was... unexpected.
@iannesby
@iannesby 4 жыл бұрын
to this day, us army infantry officers still dont know the difference. the ignorance never ends.
@bpm990d
@bpm990d 4 жыл бұрын
I had an O-3 ask me what the zero for my rifle was and he was incredulous that I didn't know it or really care what the numbers were. This is back in the day and these were M16A1s. He was under the impression that my zero, was good on all rifles that I may be issued. I could just pick up any rifle, put my zero on it and be good to go. He didn't like my answer, but that's ok I didn't like his ignorance. Guy is probably a General by now.
@verymuchuman1294
@verymuchuman1294 4 жыл бұрын
it is deadass like saying "it's ok to fire a 308 out of an AK47" I can't believe the amount of times I've heard this
@macsmuzzlebrakes9063
@macsmuzzlebrakes9063 4 жыл бұрын
The only "this will fit into that" I've found that works, is 44/40 into .44 Special and .44 Mag. All three are basically the same bullet and base diametre, but only the 44/40 fits all 3, but neither of the other fits 44/40. What is interchangeable between 7.62 NATO and M43 is the bullets, but an M43's "7.62 mm" bullet is 0.310" and the 7.62 NATO is about 0.308", so you get higher chamber pressures in a 0.308" barrel with a .310" bullet. Works fine in my bolt actions (I have a Mosin 7.62 x 54R with a barrel made from a .308 blank which I shoot milsurp in, I've used .308 reloads in a .303 Brit, and I have an AR in 7.62 x 25 who's barrel was made from a .308 blank)!
@schrodingersgat4344
@schrodingersgat4344 4 жыл бұрын
Had a science "teacher" in ,high school, that swore this was the case with 5.56 & 5.45. He was a Captain in the National Guard....
@craigstephen3216
@craigstephen3216 4 жыл бұрын
I heard the same thing. How would the slightly larger US round even chamber in a AK 74?
@Seriona1
@Seriona1 4 жыл бұрын
He was a nasty girl. Why trust him?
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
@@Seriona1 I was a Nasty Girl, why trust me?
@Seriona1
@Seriona1 4 жыл бұрын
@@MikeB128 I was making a joke. Buddy of mine was Guard. I pitch him shit.
@GunsNGames1
@GunsNGames1 4 жыл бұрын
My man's just with a FAL and a AKMS while I cry and can only be jealous of those beautiful pieces. Take good care of them man, Cold War era rifles are my favorites.
@rebelwolf72
@rebelwolf72 4 жыл бұрын
You can fire almost any round out of a slingshot ! :D
@deasttn
@deasttn 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't bebmven have to be round to be fired out of a slingshot :-)
@ThatGuy-te9wh
@ThatGuy-te9wh 4 жыл бұрын
It's true in one case: The Tokarev pistol. It can use 7.63 Mauser ammo, but the C96 can't due to the Tokarev ammo's higher pressures.
@hvmetalhead2805
@hvmetalhead2805 4 жыл бұрын
We carried .38 special revolvers, and they carried .357 magnum revolvers, they could use our ammo, be we couldn’t use theirs
@moritamikamikara3879
@moritamikamikara3879 4 жыл бұрын
touche
@elsea8901
@elsea8901 4 жыл бұрын
I heard this before too when I was much younger...I remembered it years later when I got into guns...could never figure out what they meant...now I know it was just a repeated myth... Thank you!!
@scottjackson1636
@scottjackson1636 4 жыл бұрын
i heard this from an uncle when i was 12 or so, even then with a limited experience with guns (mostly 22lr and pellet guns) i thought it sounded stupid, i remember i got in trouble from my mom because I asked how that was possible. I mean i accepted his explanation but with doubts, i was only 12, i figured he knew something i didn't.
@BigFrankVideo
@BigFrankVideo 4 жыл бұрын
This video is absolutely great! I'm 64 years old, and I remember that bullshit from the Viet Nam era. Although I think then the line was the interchangeability between the AK47, and get this, the M16. I was just a little too young for Viet Nam, but I definitely remember this story packaged with a slightly different bow. I think this must have been some type of war propaganda conceived hundreds or thousands of years ago. "Our catapults can throw the same rocks as theirs, but they cannot throw our rocks!
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 4 жыл бұрын
There have been case of useing shorter arrows with guides so they can't be shot them back.
@christiankirkenes5922
@christiankirkenes5922 4 жыл бұрын
My father said the same thing to me back in the 1990's, he was in the army. Maybe it was an army prank, kind of like sending the new mechanic out to get headlight fluid......
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 4 жыл бұрын
This is the same myth that went around saying Mr Rodgers was a Vietnam sniper that snapped.
@piobmhor8529
@piobmhor8529 4 жыл бұрын
In the 1970’s, I was a grunt in the Canadian Army. We had the FNC1A1 and C2 which was a Canadian made inch pattern version of the FAL with a couple neat variations unique to what we wanted in a main battle rifle. We had heard the same myth about “ the Soviets could use our 7.62 ammo but we can’t use their’s”. Attached to our unit was a former Intelligence NCO who heard guys talking and decided to put an end to it. Through his old contacts, he borrowed captured Soviet made weapons, specifically a WW2 era Mosin, an SKS and a really rough looking Tokarev. I guess all three came from Korea which was the last war Canadians were in officially at that point. It’s funny how common these things are now, however back then we were mesmerized by these Communist trophies. He did apologize for not being able to get a copy of the elusive AK47, but he did tell us that the SKS used the same ammo, so we could draw the same conclusion. He did the same thing with dummy ammo. They had rounds made up in a machine shop for training purposes out of aluminum. Specifically he had 7.62x54R, 7.62x39 and 7.62x25 rounds, as well as some 7.62x51 NATO dummy rounds from our Quartermaster Stores. The weapons were on loan for lectures he would later give us. The first thing he did was insert the correct ammo into the correct weapon, and all is good. He then tried to mismatch them with the most humours being trying to fit the 7.62x51 NATO in the little Tokarev, making some sort of crude comment about a well endowed porn star and a virgin... I’ll leave that one up to your imagination. The bottom line is that he in a few minutes dispelled the rumour about the interchangeable ammo question. Ironically today, I own a Mosin, SKS and a Tokarev as range toys and I have a .308 Tikka T3 for deer hunting. It does suck having to keep four types of 7.62 ammo in stock.
@upmw2k
@upmw2k 4 жыл бұрын
I know a guy who owns a couple Russian Mosin Nagant rifles and staunchly claims they were designed so the conscripts could take K98 rounds they stole or took off dead Germans and fire them from their rifles, an 8mm from a 7.62x54? I'm half tempted to tell him I want him to fire one to show me
@upmw2k
@upmw2k 4 жыл бұрын
Also, this same guy claims Italian Carcano ammo can be fired from a Mosin Nagant as well
@ForOne814
@ForOne814 4 жыл бұрын
@@upmw2k I mean, I know a guy who illegally home-converted a Mosin into 12,7x108. In Russia... So, you know, everything is possible over here.
@goodoc8248
@goodoc8248 4 жыл бұрын
4:28 "okay, shitsnap" that's my new favorite insult
@AngeredKabar
@AngeredKabar 4 жыл бұрын
This may be true of mortars. This is up there with "a near miss with a .50 will rip a man's arm off from the shockwave" and "aim for the buttons on a coat because geneva convention"
@beowulf9543
@beowulf9543 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video Mike! I always hear about AK's are inherently extremely inaccurate and the M1 Carbine is extremely inaccurate aswell. I live in Ireland and I hear the one about AK all the time from people who have never shot an AK because you can't (as far as I'm aware) legally own an AK in this country.
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
I need to make a newer video of my M1 carbine. Thing is very accurate, and I wouldn't want to get hit by one.
@beowulf9543
@beowulf9543 4 жыл бұрын
@@MikeB128 Yeah they seem like a nice and handy rifle but there's so much bs out there about them.
@chrisnelmes7180
@chrisnelmes7180 4 жыл бұрын
I knew a few folks who were 100% convinced of this myth.Some would get pretty insistent.
@blazefirethorn
@blazefirethorn 4 жыл бұрын
Guy came into the shop where I work and asked what the AK on the rack behind me was chambered in. I told him 7.62x39, which seemed to confuse him. I further explained by stating that it was the standard chambering for AK pattern rifles, and he just shook his head and said, "Nah, standard is five four." I thought he might have meant 5.45x39, which while less common is still a standard AK pattern round, and when I asked, he said "No, 7.62x54." I told him that was a significantly larger round, and asked if he was thinking of the SVD, which he was not. Long story short, he thought AKs shot Mosin-Nagant rounds as their standard Russian army issued chambering. I'd love to see him try to stuff a few of those in an AK mag.
@Gregiorp
@Gregiorp 4 жыл бұрын
I've never heard that myth before. On a slightly related note I've heard that surplus 7.62x51 and commercial .308 shouldn't be interchanged. I've also heard 7.62x51 can run through .308 but not reverse. Others say it doesn't matter and send it.
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot 4 жыл бұрын
Old myth. Main source is probably the difference in how the military measured and rated pressure vs how SAAMI did. Same reason people think that 5.56x45 is higher pressure and can't be used in .223 Remington chambers. A few years back, the military revised how it measured pressure for ammo specs, brought it in line (or at least really close to in line) with how SAAMI does it. Lo and behold! 7.62x51mm has the same pressure rating as .308 Winchester and 5.56x45mm has the same max pressure as .223 Remington. But it's a myth that won't die... One that's not a myth is that commercial .30-06 can damage an M1 Garand.
@exexpat11
@exexpat11 4 жыл бұрын
@@immikeurnot You beat me to it. Some AR makers as a selling point make "Universal" feeding ramps and chambers that are made to feed both .223 and 5.56X45 because they are meant to be "slightly" different. I've never heard anyone complain that their AR Milspec could not feed .223 so it is just a marketing thing.
@pietrayday9915
@pietrayday9915 4 жыл бұрын
@@exexpat11 - I'm one of the dumb-arses that splurged a little to buy AR-15 uppers that the manufacturers say explicitly use both .225 and 5.56x45 ammo - I've never had a problem, and I guess it's worth it for me to spend a little extra (I suppose) for the reassurance that I don't have to think about the difference too much, in any case! Supposedly the rifling and so on are different for the two ammo types as well, IIRC - you can buy mil-spec barrels that can handle both types, but some civilian receivers (I think?) can't handle the mil-spec barrels, or maybe it was vice-versa.... Being a "better safe than sorry" kind of guy, I just felt better paying for the barrels, mags, receivers, etc. that seemed like the safest bet.... In the end, what's really ended up worrying me over the years was buying bulk reloaded ammo from gun shows, after I bought a batch of hundreds of reloads that seemed kind of sketchy and inconsistent on closer examination after I brought them home and started shooting them (I think some were over-powered and possibly dangerous to fire in my rifles, because when fired the ammo would sometimes do some things that really gave me doubts about the safety of shooting it!)
@immikeurnot
@immikeurnot 4 жыл бұрын
@@pietrayday9915 I would never run any reloads that I personally didn't produce. I tried some commercial 7.62x25mm reloads years ago and had about a 15% failure to fire rate, which is sad in a CZ-52 pistol with its ridiculously overpowered hammer spring. I have seen scary factory ammo, though. Someone showed up to a shoot with some Romanian-produced 5.56 and the stuff liked to stick in chambers like Russian steel-cased did, in spite of being brass-cased. Nixed using that in my rifles in a hurry.
@KinoTechUSA69
@KinoTechUSA69 4 жыл бұрын
Dude I've had to explain this to soooo many old vets, they never believe me either lol
@flight2k5
@flight2k5 4 жыл бұрын
The myth of the ak47 never jamming.
@SJMORG
@SJMORG 4 жыл бұрын
But its kinda true yes it can happen but it's so rare to happen that certain circumstances had to have been met but I can jam but will rarely do so
@johntavish8750
@johntavish8750 4 жыл бұрын
I was told by the "company gunsmith" or whatever you call that in english (French Army) that our standard service pistol (MAC 50) chambered in 9x19 could fire 45 ACP rounds. I never believed it but I had to fake it so not to get in trouble, even if i did point out that 11,43mm was bigger than 9mm...
@MickeyD2012
@MickeyD2012 4 жыл бұрын
That might have potentially been a thing, back when everybody had muzzleloaders, LOL.
@OldSarge
@OldSarge 4 жыл бұрын
...that old chestnut has been around since the '60's at least...it may be that it started not with small arms ammunition but with mortar ammunition, as the Viets used the Russian 82mm mortar, and MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO fire US 81mm mortar rounds out of their tubes. A mortar is a VERY simple machine, being a tube and (generally, except in the old US 60mm mortar) fixed firing pin...if it fits, it SHOULD go "bloop". Somehow, as if to tell us that our enemies were smarter than we were (I suspect, as the Vietnam effort was a mess), the myth transferred to rifle, pistol and machinegun ammo. I never heard this myth in any training I ever had, except that it was debunked when I went through SF weapons training in the early '80's. Good video.
@howardcui7688
@howardcui7688 4 жыл бұрын
Naw man the Soviet soldiers are all required to use the scavenger perk, and that’s how they’re able to use our ammo and we can’t use theirs.
@AlaskanFrontier1
@AlaskanFrontier1 4 жыл бұрын
That's true. I have been to some of their training sessions.
@stanislavczebinski994
@stanislavczebinski994 4 жыл бұрын
A few years ago, a friend told me shortly after the reunion of Germany in 1991 the soldiers from East-Germany were able to shoot 7.62 Nato out of their AKs. He mentioned something like a paper round but he could not convince me. I told him that the different case lengths alone would make this impossible because the AK is unable to lock. Really nice to see a full explanation here!! Thanks Mate!!
@AWACS_Snowblind
@AWACS_Snowblind 4 жыл бұрын
"Ok, shitsnap-" Yeah. I'm totally using that from now on
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a time at a county fair where some one told me that Mosin Nagant carbines where all chambered for 7.62x39.
@frankpolly
@frankpolly 4 жыл бұрын
honestly that doesn't sound like a bad idea, to chamber an M38 or M44 in 7.62x39
@jasemac5391
@jasemac5391 4 жыл бұрын
Lol Australian Army had the same rummer buzzing around in the late 80’s and even then I thought WTF how does that work 👍🏻🇦🇺
@vthompson1987
@vthompson1987 4 жыл бұрын
You’re doing the Lord’s work, Mike thank you! The greatest risk here is some stupid know it all spouting myths to people who are just new to guns and wind up getting discouraged, damaging their weapons, injured or even dead. Once again good work.
@keredrellit3992
@keredrellit3992 4 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing this myth when I was a kid in the 80s!
@broccodoggo8363
@broccodoggo8363 4 жыл бұрын
This myth also had great roots in the Vietnam war! My grandpa told me stories of how he and his battle buddies would leave sabotaged crates of 7.62x39 that got captured off VC and normal 7.62x51 from their issued M14s so when they got ambushed next guns would jam and explode on the enemy, which often resulted in him and his unit walking out alive and unharmed while VC lay dead with shrapnel wounds. Now i'm unsure if this is true but my grandpa meant a lot to me and he was one of many GI who did very dirty work.
@509Gman
@509Gman 4 жыл бұрын
brocco doggo the best “tall tales” have an element of truth. MACV-SOG had a program for a while of putting doctored ammo in weapon caches they might come across to do what you just described, but it was just the enemy’s caliber ammo loaded either low on powder to cause a bore obstruction, or so hot it blew up the gun. Charlie would be able to see and feel the difference between a x39 and a .308, so that wouldn’t work.
@Aconitum_napellus
@Aconitum_napellus 4 жыл бұрын
Gun myth; Gun control makes you safer.
@sabotabby3372
@sabotabby3372 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite gun myth is that the NRA cares about the 2nd amendment
@Fourty5
@Fourty5 4 жыл бұрын
Gun control does make you safer. As long as you are in control of your weapon, there is less of chance someone gets hurt.
@aholegunner
@aholegunner 4 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@j_hxy2376
@j_hxy2376 4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't actually
@leafdog2714
@leafdog2714 4 жыл бұрын
FRIENDSHIP ENDED WITH NRA... NOW GOA IS MY BESTFRIEND
@kennynoble1223
@kennynoble1223 4 жыл бұрын
I sit corrected. I figured the extractor would hold onto the rim of the AK round in the larger chamber, but seeing how loose it really is in the chamber, I see that the bullet would likely get stuck in the barrel and I bet there'd be a fireball from the chamber and mag-well. Thanks for the demonstration, because your use of the physical "props" changed my mind.
@MrSniperdude01
@MrSniperdude01 4 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing a crazy claim from a buddy from high school. He said that you could feed an M249 with M4 mags. I've never had the chance to shoot a 249, but I always thought it sounded sketchy
@MikeB128
@MikeB128 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's true, but it's the same caliber. The M249 will run mags with live ammo, but is finicky when using mags with blanks. I was a SAW gunner for a period of time, and it's not a myth, it was designed that way.
@MrSniperdude01
@MrSniperdude01 4 жыл бұрын
@@MikeB128 okay that's interesting to learn. I knew the caliber wasn't the issue, but rather when he said "you have to jam em in" 30rds in a 249 sounds like a civilian model lol.
@TheKingOfJordan1
@TheKingOfJordan1 4 жыл бұрын
The M249 can use AR mags, but I've heard it does terrible things to the feed ramps
@TommygunNG
@TommygunNG 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheKingOfJordan1Yes, 249s are engineered to accept box mags, but Army manuals are upfront and say there are reliability issues.
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely but should only be done for training and emergency situations. And if you do make sure to inform the armourer if it received a steady diet of magazines. Additionally if you are the light machine gunner you need to look at your own gear for bends and stressing at the feed lips.
@karlt8233
@karlt8233 4 жыл бұрын
I do remember the 9mm thing when the Makarov was a common milsurp item in shops. 9mm Luger/Parabellum/NATO or 9x19 is NOT the same as 9x18Makarov. Not sure how many people made this mistake but I actually saw it on a range once, thankfully the 9mm did not fit in the guys Makarov Magazine. Another common Makarov error was using .380acp in Makarov pistols chambered for 9x18Mak ammo.
@praack4563
@praack4563 4 жыл бұрын
this was written in a lot of magazines at the time
@SupesMe
@SupesMe 4 жыл бұрын
I always heard this in the Navy back in the 80's and it didn't even make sense back then. You'd think MAYBE you could drop one of theirs into a M-14 or something and it MIGHT go off. But the other way around? No way. This disproves it altogether. thanks
@pusswhakker
@pusswhakker 4 жыл бұрын
They taught this in schools. so that's where the myth began
@christophertaylor1153
@christophertaylor1153 4 жыл бұрын
I have heard that during the Vietnam Conflict that the VC and NVA would build their own weapons in the beginning of the war. Another thing, what about the AK-74? What size round went in that AK-74 rifle? I have heard from soldiers that the VC would grab anything left behind from our soldiers and marines- like M-16 rifles and other weapons. Whatever was left behind.
@DowntownDeuce2
@DowntownDeuce2 4 жыл бұрын
5:30 I forgot how glass smooth an FAL is, until he grabbed that charging handle!
@LemmingFNSR
@LemmingFNSR 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike Guess where I was told this..... Australian Army when I joined up in 78. Part of the myth was also “all their weapons fired 8.62 thus they can fire ours but we can’t fire theirs” Greetings from down under M
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, heard that myth 1990 in Finnish Defense Forces too. Though it was debunked quickly by officers.
@zacharyrollick6169
@zacharyrollick6169 4 жыл бұрын
So about that Finnish 7.62x53r, what is the story with that?
@Doomwolf82002
@Doomwolf82002 4 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing the from a History Channel channel special on firearms; it was Desert Storm Vet talking about the weapons the Iraqis when he apposed that myth.
@psydog5480
@psydog5480 4 жыл бұрын
I know I guy who says AK 7.62x39 can fire .45, 9mm, .357 mag, 30-06, .308, and 5.56. He's an odd duck for sure.
@pietrayday9915
@pietrayday9915 4 жыл бұрын
I guess that, in a way, it's kind of true: i have AKs that shoot 7.62x39mm, 7.62x54R, 12-gauge, and 20-gauge, and ARs that shoot .223, 5.56mm, and .22LR... of course, there's a HUGE difference between what I mean when I say that, and any conclusion that the same guns shoot all these ammunition types interchangeably. (In other words, I own several AK-style rifles that each shoot different ammo types, and the ARs have upper receivers that can be swapped out to allow them to fire different ammo types... in other words, if I want to shoot different types of ammo in these gun platforms, I've got to do a little work to make it happen!)
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 4 жыл бұрын
There are 50 big uppers for AR’s. doesn’t make them good guns though.
@lastswordfighter
@lastswordfighter 4 жыл бұрын
Not in the same configuration. There are different variants in different calibers for everything to military/police use to hunting to sports marksmanship. Same goes for the AR15/M16/M4 variants. These days both rifle series have become very modular and customizable not only on the bullets they shoot but also their length and accessories they can utilize.
@The_Grumpy_Ol_Redneck
@The_Grumpy_Ol_Redneck 4 жыл бұрын
I was in the army national guard 1985-1986. In bootcamp in 1985 we were told that the AK-74 could fire M-16 ammo but not the other way around. I doubt this was true but it was one of the reasons the drill instructors gave for making sure to keep track of your ammo. And yes, it was the drill instructors, who all the recruits were told knew their stuff, were telling us this.
@aluxtaiwan2691
@aluxtaiwan2691 4 жыл бұрын
Pupg player be like: of course it could. Duh
@mnk9073
@mnk9073 4 жыл бұрын
All I've ever heard is that you can fire the standart NATO ammo out of Swiss SIG 550 rifles but the Gw Pat 90 would fail in "normal" NATO rifles.
@509Gman
@509Gman 4 жыл бұрын
MNK 90 nope, GP90 is highly coveted for any 5.56 rifle.
@eduardextreme4387
@eduardextreme4387 4 жыл бұрын
It's nice to hear an american saying that he likes the metric system...
@bryanmartinez6600
@bryanmartinez6600 4 жыл бұрын
I wish we did though. The Metric system is so much more straight forward. I absolutely hate that are cars are assembled with both metric and MURICAN measurements so your using a 10 mill one second might as well chuck in in the field always gets lost anyway the next second your looking for a 5/16 socket.
@Gottaculat
@Gottaculat 4 жыл бұрын
As an American, I generally prefer the Imperial system, unless dealing with small measurements, because working with fractions of an inch is a nightmare. I do find it funny that metric users measure height in centimeters or meters rather than by so many decimeters followed by centimeters. For example, I say I'm 6 feet 4 inches, not 76 inches. To me, I would think my metric height would be 19 decimeters 3 centimeters, not 193 centimeters. Saying my height is 1.93 meters also sounds weird, like saying I'm 2.11 yards tall. So beyond an inch, metric seems weird to me, though I can picture 10 to 100 meters because I used to shoot my bow at an Olympic style archery range, which is set up in meters as that's what's used in competitive archery. I can also picture liters because here in America, our soda bottles are measured in liters, though our milk and gasoline are measured in gallons, while most of our beverages are measured in fluid ounces. It's weird that our soda bottles are in liters, but our soda cans are in fluid ounces. We're a very diverse country, lol!
@lockcracker
@lockcracker 4 жыл бұрын
@@Adamz678 as a toolmaker I work with both the inch and the metric system. Saying something is " point six two millimeters" sounds dumbed down. While saying "twenty four thousanths" rolls off the tongue better. Other than hand tools like wrenches and sockets the fraction is used very little. Instead the decimal inch is used. Everyone in my shop can convert a fraction in 4ths, 8ths, 16ths, 32nds, 64ths and 128ths to decimal without thinking on the fly. Although its not needed that often because measuring with a ruler is pretty inaccurate. Almost all metrology equipment reads in decimal inch. One system is as easy and as accurate as the other and once you use them it will come easy to you too. Technically you could say the US is already converted to the metric system because the standard that all of our metrology equipment is calibrated to a metric standard, we just convert it to the inch.
@waltarb8573
@waltarb8573 4 жыл бұрын
Came here for this, makes me fuckin proud. Also so glad FAL's and AK's are dogshit cheap here. or sig sg 510's hell yes. shame I need to travel for a gun range longer than 300 meter tho
@bobbye7353
@bobbye7353 4 жыл бұрын
I'm American and I fucking love the metric system LMAO
@RobertDecker417
@RobertDecker417 4 жыл бұрын
The Soviets made their cartridges similar to ours in performance, but different sizes so that ammunition could not be swapped. The USSR made a shit ton of ammo, so they didn't need to use our ammo. Anyone who says this shit CLEARLY has no idea about 1) The AK47 was produced before 7.62x51 NATO was standardized, and 2) If they could use our ammo, we could use theirs as well since the ammunition would be at most like the difference between 5.56 and .223.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 4 жыл бұрын
at least the Israelis did something right One of the Galil rifles was chambered in 7.62 x 39 with AK mags. Now that was genius.
@MrMelonMan100
@MrMelonMan100 4 жыл бұрын
Head-spacing That is all
@wayneorellana2549
@wayneorellana2549 4 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing this in Australia in the 90's. I even told other people this because I took it for granted that the NCO's knew what they were talking about.
@nash-p
@nash-p 4 жыл бұрын
I havent even used a real gun but even I know that this myth is stupid
@cristianespinal9917
@cristianespinal9917 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard this before somewhere, but never really gave it any thought. More of a "huh, that doesn't sound right, but maybe it works with one gun/ammo combo in a pinch like .38spl/.357." Thanks for calling that myth out.
@jtelevenoyd1571
@jtelevenoyd1571 4 жыл бұрын
This one went around a lot, a few years ago. A surprising number of people repeated it with a straight face. At least it's potentially useful as a "this guy is full of shit" indicator. Here's another one I've heard: supposedly one can induce a 7.62x54 Mosin-Nagant to chamber and fire a 7.62x51 NATO round, and even extract the fired case if the rebate where the rim would be was filled in beforehand with aluminum foil. That one sounds semi-plausible by comparison, but I'm willing to let someone with a disposable M-N guineapig it.
@WastelandArmorer
@WastelandArmorer 4 жыл бұрын
There is a demo ranch video where they fire a 308 in a mosin. It fires but does not extract.
@Crosshair84
@Crosshair84 4 жыл бұрын
My understanding of where that came from is insurgencies that had 7.62x54 rifles, but 7.62x51 ammunition. I could see such a situation arising in Vietnam, where the local VC might have Mosin-Nagant rifles and some captured 7.62x51 ammunition. Extracting would for sure not work in such a situation. Your rate of fire with such a setup would be horrendous. I could see it being useful for firearm training, to save the 7.62x54 ammunition, or taking pot shots at convoys where you're only going to be taking one shot anyway.
@pietrayday9915
@pietrayday9915 4 жыл бұрын
I've never heard any of these mythos or rumors, but I can imagine they might be the sort of thing that go around local shooting ranges or other small communities as if they were some sort of gospel truth. The closest I can think of hearing were the usual AK vs. AR/M-16 stereotypes, and the sort of thing where someone might say that 7.62x39 is "roughly equivalent to" .30/30 or 7.62x54R is "roughly equivalent to" .30/'06 - in the case of the "roughly equivalent" myths, I never knew anyone who took that to mean the ammo was literally interchangeable, but rather that the ammunition had some vaguely similar ballistics properties etc., but only vaguely, and that there was still a significant difference between the rounds. I guess that a lot of these myths require the internet to get spread, where it's hard to hear the nuances in the way things are said to infer when to take things with a grain of salt, and I guess maybe that some of these myths get spread when apparent gun authorities (like military drill sergeants) pass on "conventional wisdom" by word-of-mouth that either gets misunderstood, or isn't entirely accurate to begin with. Anyway, as you say, I guess the positive way to look at it is is that when we hear these myths, it's useful as a B.S.-detector....
@MelbaOzzie
@MelbaOzzie 4 жыл бұрын
Possibly this myth came from the fact that for a while the Australian army was buying its 7.62 rifle ammunition from commie Czechoslovakia. Their ammo was cheaper than the normal suppliers, so the Australians thought they were getting a good deal. However, the cartridge cases were made out of mild steel, and would rust even in dry storage. In addition, they would deform after firing and jam the chamber. That was assuming they would fire at all; they were so unreliable that eventually the Australians scrapped their entire stockpile.
@nunyabusiness2636
@nunyabusiness2636 4 жыл бұрын
Your mom has a nice basement.
@maxgheraldo3045
@maxgheraldo3045 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t help but dye laughing rn bc your saying what we all wanted to everyone who has no idea about firearms plz continue series
@nataneraser
@nataneraser 4 жыл бұрын
"i love busting these fucking myths" hahah made me lol
@johnheath128
@johnheath128 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Probably some British soldier was playing silly buggers, trying (successfully as it seems) to wind up some dumb civvie.
@johnm3907
@johnm3907 4 жыл бұрын
I was in a friends house once and a relation of mine was holding an ak for the ira and had no bullets , and he fancied a few shots of it so he rang my friend asking for 308 bullets. He made a fool of himself.
@earlwyss520
@earlwyss520 4 жыл бұрын
I used to own an SKS, and took it to the base rifle range at Eaker AFB Arkansas. One day and an on duty Law Enforcement Specialist showed up to see what was going on. I let him fire my SKS, and he asked if it would take the 7.62mm NATO round. I happened to find an expended 7.62mm blank round on the ground so I dropped it in the chamber to prove that it wouldn't work. I've heard stories about our ammo fitting Soviet weapons but not the other way around since the mid 1980s. I've heard it about both small arms, and light cannons. I was a service brat, and had a USAF SSGT in an aircraft maintenance squadron tell me that our 20mm cannon rounds would fit it Soviet 23mm cannons. I never believed that statement, even at 16 years old.
@davidmorgan858
@davidmorgan858 4 жыл бұрын
Lol thanks for showing this. I’ve argued with two former army vets over this. This myth was around in the 80s. It’s a goofy brain dead myth. I’m sure 99% of all vets know better. I just happened to run across two that was probably kicked out.
@aleccross3535
@aleccross3535 4 жыл бұрын
So you're telling me my .50 calibre Desert Eagle won't fire a Barret M82A1 Anti-materiel rifle's .50 calibre ammo? Damn. I need to return to the pawnshop.
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