Banshee 421 v.s. Raptor 700 (MSUT SEE THIS!)

putting michael sabo banshee 421 against my raptor 700 in a drag race
Banshe 421 v.s. Raptor 700 (MSUT SEE THIS!)
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[@cirilomedina1474]

His reaction when first taking the Banshee for a spin says it all!!! Doesn’t even matter who’s faster at that point 🤷🏻‍♂️💪🏼🔥🔥🔥

[@conniestevenson226]

The banshee is losing on the drag race because the banshee is tire spinning as they always do and harder to control.wheel spin, grip, wheel spin, grip. Recipe for uncontrollable. It causes the quad to become all over the place.

[@Davido50]

Thats why big bore mean 4-strokes are better all around! Same reason Pro MX went to 4-strokes..& emissions.

[@bigsexy1088]

@@Davido50 Debatable

[@deborahchesser7375]

@@bigsexy1088 definitely debatable, not everyone can handle that hit of a two stroke, others live for it.

[@bigsexy1088]

@@deborahchesser7375 true

[@stuntman660]

@@Davido50 yeah and they had to double the displacement of the 4-stroke to run with a 2-stroke! yeah🤔

[@dennisbrooks186]

I'm a banshee guys so I always want to see banshee stuff of course but I watch w.e. u guys put out. One of u guys should do a true and weld vid for cranks, I heard one of u say u did it to yours but I forgot who lol id like to be able to do that too all the banshees I build. 700 vs 686. 421 vs 309r. 421 vs 472!!! Hell ya bros keep it up!!!

[@StupidFastJohn]

👊 great feedback Dennis! That crank was mikes predator 560 one that mike trued and welded on his homemade setup 🙌

[@brandonshook4880]

Yamaha built some badass shit

[@StupidFastJohn]

Hell yes man! 👊🙌

[@tonyfoley9988]

A little bit more work & the Raptor will be beating that Banshee 3 outta 5 races just because it doesn't matter how much power you have it you can't plant it.

[@DontellStreetmuscle]

Not bad for a almost stock raptor 🔥 love the banshees too, gotta do a modded or fuel injected 700 vs that banshee next and see the results! Keep up the good videos guys🤘🏽

[@MichaelSabo]

We suspect the 700 has some other mods that we didn't know about; we could see the cylinder had been replaced but never opened it up to see.

[@yenko3378]

All raptor 700s are fuel injected

[@DontellStreetmuscle]

@@yenko3378 oh wow I didn’t know that haha thanks for the information, I figured the earlier modeled raptors were carbureted, and the years 2011+ were fuel injected my bad buddy👍🏽😁

[@yenko3378]

@@DontellStreetmuscle your good yeah the raptor 660 were carb the 700 started in 06 and has been fuel injected since then

[@LSDdreams808]

​@@DontellStreetmusclei think the 660 is carb

[@goldenwheeledbanshee9160]

Thanks 4, doing this video, u, guys killed it again. I enjoyed this.

[@StupidFastJohn]

Barry thanks bro!

[@angelmarquez1977]

You should fully built the Raptor 700R!🔥 I have one stock bore cp piston 12.1 compression, pc5, hot cam stg 1,K&N filter just easy built and it make 54hp Good vids bro keep it up!🔥🔥🔥💪🏻

[@diondevilliers3254]

Great Vid. Really had me smiling from your reactions. Made me excited about my 660R. My idea for you guys is to compare the 700/686 to a YFZ450 or 700/686 vs LTR450 or 700/686 vs TRX450. Or the 686 vs Quadzilla And then the 686 vs Banshee Can’t wait for the 686 rear down

[@AbelZahid]

Classic rivalry 😎🤟🏽 even though they are both made by the same company. Awesome video guys

[@jshepherd9359]

First off that Raptor is NOT stock. Im going to bet once they pull that engine apart and inspect it has a high comp piston, port, cam at the least. Like Sabo said the head is not the same color as the cylinder, its been apart. Plus the ECU tune, exhaust and after market air filter. Lets not fool our selves here. So with that being most likely the case id say the 250R and the banshee did very well. John, I know you know whats in that quad! Ataboy! ;)

[@carsnquads]

Im really sad the 660 blew up and we didnt get a proper quad wars 😢 but i still dig this content 100%. Keep up the good work fellas!

[@Pittsburgh-412]

That banshee is so fuckin fast

[@AlphaOffroad859]

The 4mils are amazing. Especially if you get someone who can launch. Gotta feather the clutch

[@joeyholthusen6495]

Anything can be built. My raptor is 06 I did plus 3mm intake valve and plus 2mm exhaust valves stage 3 cam plus 5mm stroker crank 105.5mm piston and cylinder with EFI controller freed up the exhaust system and air intake, plus a few other things. At 75mph in 4th gear I can pull it up, then shift in 5th and it's stupid. Always fun riding, started on a atc 90 Honda 😉

[@janco2061]

Do a yamaha blaster

[@FarmerBrown420]

Yam hammer is what my grandfather called my banshee

[@StupidFastJohn]

Yam hammer 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@FarmerBrown420]

@@StupidFastJohn he hated it he had the best atv in the world Honda fourtrax 300 4x4 go any were and runs still when it's over 30

[@FarmerBrown420]

@@StupidFastJohn it might have been Yama hammer he always picked on me about it He wrote it one time up the main highway and 3rd or 4th gear when it was power William I'm seeing let off and and after that he kept telling them we'll get myself killed on it

[@stevendaugherty7556]

But that raptor ant no joke

[@BDauto86]

There is such things as "Factory Freaks". I don't know the difference but I remember I bought a new Z400, it had a full exhaust and jet kit to my knowledge. My friend bought 1 right after me and did the same mods, every race I would pull away from him. Same weight, dig or roll I pulled away Everytime, we could never figure why other then just better running from factory.

[@zanderbird9198]

I had the same thing but with my 92 warrior. Never put an exhaust or anything on it and it would woop modded ones in races. Like it wasn't even close.

[@Jp-tl4gj]

I’d love to race that banshee with my yfz450r se but 🔥🔥🔥 video

[@dalltonblain9971]

Build a on demand 4x4 raptor 660r or 700, you will take everyone by storm and you could sell the parts at a premium. I'm very interested in doing this by using parts from a Polaris scrambler 500 ho with on demand 4x4. They have very similar hp and top speeds. It would make one of the most sick raptors out there being able to use 4x4 when you need it.

[@davidstoner27]

Banshee is a beast for sure good job guys

[@edwardknox2213]

here when the title had a typo.

[@shaynedonnelly374]

5 days later and it still does lol

[@roadgliderider1]

Rebuild a 1987 Honda trx250x. Lotsa people still ride them. And I have one so I would love to see what you do to one compared to what I did.

[@conniestevenson226]

They are a nice atv.handle well.and nimble but will be cramped on a taller rider.but an all time classic

[@mitchellkalina8191]

A raptor 700 has absolutely zero chance against a 421 unless the factors of physics allow. Like traction and rider. Put them both on pavement with skilled riders and the raptor has no chance. The cub probably makes twice the horsepower is a quick revving two stroke. Those 421 kits will run with turbo Busa's in 1/8th mile on asphalt, believe it. In dirt like that you should be able to launch it from 3rd gear. The 700 motor isn't even stressed for power output, a stock 450 will give them fits. I'm pretty sure the 421 kits make over 100 HP, good luck getting there with big, single cylinder 4 strokes.

[@StupidFastJohn]

A 421 on pump gas and no race porting like mikes makes around 75-80 horse, with race gas more timing and a good port they will make 100 horse. Hellcat channel banshee is a great example at 98 horse like this 👊

[@chriscallas9483]

That was awesome guys!

[@williamheidbrink2411]

What’s carbs is on that banshee and porting will definitely open it up alittle more it’s by for the finest thing I have ever rode and I am Thinking about selling my yfz to get a new one with a 24dm

[@lostammo9026]

My blaster would kick ...nobodies ass lol..nice thank you two cool dudes I wanna see 660 against 700 and a suped up blaster

[@yusufkariel831]

Would love to see some Yamaha Blasters for the next quad wars season.

[@patrickgregory5642]

That’s interesting with the raptor 700 because my Yamaha warrior motor was rebuilt by the previous owner and my warrior makes more power compared to my brothers warrior and my previous warrior

[@kenwilks6289]

Loving the comparisons, but not a fan those microphones, lol

[@StupidFastJohn]

Me niether lol couldnt waste the good content tho 👊

[@commentpulling]

Just love you guys out ripping!! Awesome!!👍🏻

[@williamheidbrink2411]

Amd if you have a lockout get them to 12 oz of weight with the bolts and do 3 heavy springs and three factory springs

[@newfonewhodis2652]

th audios i lil glitchy but the videos osm

[@Davido50]

Cannot beat a Raptor 700R..all around! Even if an "ole tech" banshee were to pull it in a straight line. A few mods on ANY good runnin Raptor 700R will make it smoke most any quad (or UTV junk).

[@anthonyk6265]

I like this comment about a year ago when I had a built Raptor 700R stroked with the big 3 now I own three banshee for reason

[@StupidFastJohn]

Dangggggggg bro!!! My man 🤙🙌🙌🙌

[@Davido50]

Great job on the banshee build tho @MichaelSabo ..im not a banshee fan but she sounds mean! Hopin for a subscriber meet up @Badlands in '22. Hope surgery recovery goin well also!

[@ethanmaxwell5080]

Lol man the dude on the raptor can’t ride😭

[@stevendaugherty7556]

Stuck In gear and still won love it banshee,s are bad a$$ quads I what's a stock 700raptor race a stock banshee and it smoked the.raptor 700

[@corbinllewellyn2055]

Please please make a turbo warrior. I would love to see it. I also have a warrior, it pushing like 30s hp l would love to see what a turbo will put out

[@MrSweetHart6976]

You should put that Banshee motor into the Raptor, then you will have the perfect machine.

[@chuckfrisoli1170]

Maybe try and bleed that clutch slave cylinder. It might help

[@stephenmacdonald912]

That banshee would be so fun to ride..

[@StupidFastJohn]

I agree! They are always a blast 🤙

[@HDocunge7]

Really good content guys , keep it up 😎

[@highlightzilla9581]

Brooo he hit 3rd and like it hit nos things wicked fast

[@BrewerOffroad]

Like I say that banshee runs like a banshee 🤣 FAST! great video guys! 🤘

[@StupidFastJohn]

LOL hell yea bro shes a ripper! 👊🙌

[@holeshot1721]

The raptor just held its own!!!!

[@samuelbond4613]

Ur raptor is fast , with dual pipe , fuel custom air intake , Power commander and hot cams It will be a monster

[@user-tr6fz7id5d]

I would love to make my banshee a 421. I bought it brand new back in 2002. done a little bit of work to it

[@deborahchesser7375]

Damn Banshee is faster it’s just so damn hard to launch. I was racing a guy on TRX300 and I was on a Suzuki 500 Quadzilla, couldn’t beat him, all wheels spin.

[@Rosco879]

great content... made my night before bed, thanks.

[@coreyjjones2008]

Need to plan a trip to durhamtown in Georgia.

[@sethanderson9931]

And race mr. Nasty!

[@jonpickett7878]

my stock banshee smokes raptors i need to show you how to ride

[@Gear-banger]

Hey are the shift forks bent of the banshee

[@bradsterb15]

Better fix that title before sabo doesn’t wanna collab anymore

[@foxpuremage]

2vintage just got a yfz450. You should race him lol

[@kylegrover1112]

Love this guy 🤙🏼

[@theexisting1514]

Wait why are they going to run the 250r vs the banshee. if the raptor beat the 250r and the banshee kills the raptor i feel like we already have our answer lol

[@LSDdreams808]

i love the raptor but the banshee is just beast.

[@normanminer6165]

For the raptor to be relatively stock and the banshee being heavily modified! And for the both of them to run side by side down the lane let alone both beating each other back to back regarding the reasons why. And with the raptor running on basically a empty tank of fuel. I would say the raptor is faster. Just saying that's my opinion. I'm not hating the banshee the banshee is insane. If you get a DM 611 cheetah kit for the banshee then do some port and polish. I have seen banshee's with that setup run over 150+HP and do a quarter mile run in under 10 seconds at over a 100mph easily!

[@jshepherd9359]

That Raptor is NOT stock in any way shape or form. It has a port, cam, and HC piston to be that fast. Come on guys lol a stock Raptor makes 47hp! this Raptor has Much more than that. John, time to pup the valve cover off and bore scope the cylinder and intake! Your the man Jonny.

[@OVLMADETV]

@@jshepherd9359 a 17-21 model stock raptor will beat a modded 08-12 raptor any day

[@OVLMADETV]

That raptor are doing pretty good to keep up with modded banshee a 17-21 stock raptor will dust that banshee

[@bradperry9567]

Is that 700 fuel injection cus mine is a 07 fuel injection stock an on that video it look like mine has more power an speed then that one

[@ReverendFreedom]

Banshees can be made awesome. Raptor 700s even more so.

[@MusicSensations1971]

Try 3rd gear hole shots it might be much easier to manage out of the hole

[@StupidFastJohn]

I would agree but i really dont have an issue launching in first everytime 😅

[@peterpan8814]

I have a 521 cheetah cub it has hydraulic clutch and lock out it don't have any problems

[@loganoliver4153]

That banshee is badass

[@bigballmagrawl0929]

Bro I feel bad first time mine had your name pop up on his channel I thought it said stupid ass John and always thought man why would you give yourself that name. For the longest I thought that's what was popping up on his screen finally the other day I seen what it really said and all I could do is say oh duh that makes so much more sense lol

[@StupidFastJohn]

😭🤣🤣🤣🤣👊

[@bigballmagrawl0929]

@@StupidFastJohn hey at least I was honest I still liked you either way you are bad ass on a quad bro and funny

[@randelpierce961]

Get the transmission race cut

[@tannersgoofy]

I ride a pretty modded 700 I need one of those stickers brother I'll definitely pay

[@johnspoltore5964]

What sprocket ratio are you running?

[@royhenson3379]

Banshee all day everyday..

[@Hammyrobux111]

Skill

[@StupidFastJohn]

👊 tx Joshua

[@puchy5389]

Raptor all day long. But I’m still love banshee

[@mandimcginley5270]

I want to see longer f****** videos for sure and different spot free is race The first quad boards was awesome did you guys need used to in it one but like the first one

[@holeshot1721]

Sine you said what kind of quads do we wanna see polaris made a 2 stroke scrambler 500 i dont know much about it but remember in its stock form they were putting it up against 400 ex and raptor 660 and bombadier 650 imagine one built for racing

[@holeshot1721]

Ok mayby it was a 400 2 stroke i just youtube searched only 3 guys have a fast 1 lol

[@johncolosio6764]

VIOLENT!!! just the way I like my powerband

[@theexisting1514]

Side note, not talking shit.. i like the idea of those wireless mics but the crackling is kinda annoying

[@StupidFastJohn]

Agreed, were looking into solutions and different setups, always changing it up trying to be next level 👊🙌

[@theexisting1514]

@@StupidFastJohn thats gotta be super annoying watching it back and being like WHY IS IT DOING THAT lol. downside of not being able to instantly play something back and check if everything's okay.

[@peterpan8814]

Build a 80hp 05 trx450 or something

[@Eastern_SA]

Mic is cutting at the beginning. Great video.

[@NoName-ss8uu]

What happened to the 660

[@evansmithson4004]

Stock banshee vs raptor 700 ide like to see a comparison

[@StupidFastJohn]

Stock banshees are so hard to get ahold of anymore tho 😅

[@sethanderson9931]

@@StupidFastJohn yeah, but getting a piped one is easy and then you just got to get stock pipes.

[@StupidFastJohn]

Way ahead of yah seth 😇👊

[@sethanderson9931]

@@StupidFastJohn awesome!

[@zackparker952]

Let's get it the moment has come 😉🙂

[@StupidFastJohn]

Lets goooo!!!!

[@WEBO_305]

I need to try my 347 out with ur banshee

[@kingkracker1998]

just bought my wife her first quad, it's a 2006 suzuki eiger 400 4x4. needs some minor work, got it for 1900$ it's a basic bitch lol but I think I got it for an ok deal, and will b a good quad to learn on. it's havin some fuel issues, dosnt wanna run with out the choke. got that last night

[@DavidJohnson-ri2on]

That is one of the most reliable quads i have ever owned. It lasts a whole day of riding with 1 tank. Pull the carb and clean it. When you set the idle air screw turn it out 3 turns. Those quads are cold blooded and a little richer mixture helps out a lot.

[@stedmototv8980]

You never truly know until you race on the street. That banshee leaving that raptor on the street easily.

[@A1-Hp]

Nice

[@razeenhattia1450]

@MichaelSabo yessssssss👌😬

[@agm6600]

What year is your raptor?

[@StupidFastJohn]

07

[@andrewbrewer3050]

Quad wars banshees!!

[@galyantoniopicolucas3026]

2t😍

[@marcusmack2417]

You yous need todo a trx450r and a yfz450r

[@StupidFastJohn]

Thats a good one broski

[@andrewjackson6986]

I was like number 3 getting closer i want that number 1 like!!!!

[@StupidFastJohn]

LOL! Keep pushing youll get it 👊

[@newfonewhodis2652]

tht banshee🤯

[@keithparady2594]

Love it

[@_juliomadrid32]

Team #Banshee 💪🏼🔥🔥😊

[@yenko3378]

Banshee is definitely faster also what was the tune you put on the raptor meant for because it’s running good if there was a lot more done internally it wouldn’t run so smooth

[@LPFM28]

Great video!!

[@matthewkarchner8158]

Hey was so i was wondering how a build was going that the west the camera guy picked off of a close friend of mine. Don't want to say what it is or anything in case you guys make a video out of it.

[@StupidFastJohn]

Lol its all good, the warrior hes working tough on for the october rideout. Ill tell em to post on his insta with progress 🙌👊

[@kingkracker1998]

love it

[@johnwright6262]

Raptor 700 vs 660

[@carsnquads]

John the title says (msut see) incase u wanna fix it!!

[@conniestevenson226]

Trx250r will smoke a banshee on a track.i think people are confused on what different atvs were made for.banshee is a duner or top speed quad for like desert racing and not good at all for tighter trails or mx track. They were always smoke by 250r in professional racing.everyone knows that except for snotty nose kids. 250r is made for actual racing and trail riding. Thats why the frame and suspension geometry is on another planet compared to banshee