Sunsets Prove Flat Earth!

[@DaveMcKeegan]

Mark Sargent promised to delete his channel if someone showed him a photo of the horizon with a curved edge ... And even though his own claims of Flat Earth would create a curved horizon, his channel remains active 🤔

[@robertlafleur5179]

MCToon sent him a picture of a curved horizon, he didn't delete his channel. Oh wait... he's in the grifting business.

[@RobertPace-t2z]

Mark Sargent loves the power & the following he has has found in this community. The Nat Geo documentary when they clearly show the boat is going over the horizon. The smug look on his face when he asks his community if the evidence presented has changed their opinion. It’s clear he knows that earth is a globe but gets off on that fact his followers will believe anything he says. It’s a game to him and he thinks he is winning.

[@ProfessorCrumbs65]

@@robertlafleur5179 The horizon is optical and not physical. How the hell can it show curvature?

[@robertlafleur5179]

@@ProfessorCrumbs65 The horizon is certainly physical, it is real water that blocks the optical view.

[@psalux18963]

@@ProfessorCrumbs65 There is nothing that can be optical without also being physical, nor anything can be be physical without being optical too. You see something: it's optical. Is there something behind your vision? Yes, always there is, also with rainbows or various optical effects.

[@clivedavis6859]

No problem for Toon & Prof Dave. The sun won't set in Union Glacier until about the end of January. Been to Antarctica and seen that.

[@rodrigosampaio1560]

@@clivedavis6859 according to flat earthers you are probably a paid actor

[@johncowan1993]

​Is it a decent salary? Can anyone apply?

[@satan4057]

okay whatever you say, NASA shill!!!

[@absoz]

@@rodrigosampaio1560is that like us aussies who are supposedly actors too ? Not certain what Aussie flerfers think, oh hang on, they don’t think 🤣

[@rodrigosampaio1560]

@@johncowan1993 and to think I'm preaching the globe for years! NASA owes me a couple millions by now

[@kringhetto]

My favorite part of every one of these vids are the clips of flerfs firmly shoving a foot in their mouths.

[@ReValveiT_01]

This.

[@johncowan1993]

I would 100% question my whole existence if TFE does not see a 24 hour sun next month. But then I'm not a con man grifting the gullible!

[@wolfgangbeeber2086]

When I first heard about TFE I thought “this is kinda silly. Flerfs will never change their minds. They’ll just make an excuse. This won’t settle anything” But, I totally missed the mark. The Final Experiment is pure genius! What actually happened is amazing. The second this started gain a little traction, Flerfs started to run, to jump ship. They started attacking each other. This all happened without even going anywhere. It’s absolutely amazing. Great job Will! It’s like you introduced a virus into the flatearth matrix. You rolled a hand grenade right into Flerflandia 😅

[@robertlafleur5179]

Will said it in one of his videos a few months ago: ''For those who missed it, TFE has already started''.

[@wolfgangbeeber2086]

@ the popcorn is out. The show has begun

[@gaetanoroccuzzo]

Setting aside the 24 hour sun in Antarctica during the south hemisphere summer conundrum, the fact that now they discover that it is possible to travel, unstopped by anyone, beyond the 80th parallel south has already put a spanner in the FE works. I want them to come out of that tight corner!!!

[@BreakYourBubble]

Can someone make a meme with Monty Python The holy grail? The scene with the killer bunny. Replace the bunny with TFE. Flerfs shouting "Charge!!!" TFE attacks and flerfs shouting "Run away!!!"

[@Heoi_Bikuni]

- Globers willing to delete all channels if sun sets . - Flatties will not delete or admit anything if sun doesn't set. Seems like the flatties already know there is a 24-hour sun. And the earth is a globe.

[@ChrisMentzer]

If i didn't discover this whole flat vs. Globe discussion my year would have been a complete bore. Thank you Will and others for this amusement.

[@mikedelvalle931]

I found it in 2019 and part of me regrets it. Knowing there are flat idiots is sad.

[@rogerbarnett8412]

@@mikedelvalle931 I beat you by 2 years. It has been fun busting sunken flat eart h ballz and ovariez, though... and quite the satisfying time waster. Frustrating, though. Which is why I hit and run.... as I usually have better things to do, like enjoy LIFE.... on our marvelous globe

[@felipeluz5035]

Sunsets prove Flat Earth... And not a single Globe Earther is triggered. 👀

[@netromrep6325]

You didn't listen to the video, did you?

[@DeliMeatTree]

Lunar eclipses are impossible on a flat earth.

[@GlauBueller-qp8ne]

Wow....your claim proves .....wait for it....................Nothing.

[@noneofyourbusiness7055]

Pretty sure he listened to the video, and is agreeing with it. People who know Earth is a globe are aware that certain sunsets would falsify their model, but they are fine with that. Meanwhile, the flerfs are collectively triggered by the very possibility of this observation NOT showing that sunset - actively trying to avoid observing or even just mentioning predictions out loud.

[@netromrep6325]

@@noneofyourbusiness7055 I agree. I see now I misunderstood his comment. Sorry about that.

[@Petey194]

Want to know why globe believers are _not_ triggered? Answer: The geometry of a ball accurately matches reality for everyone everywhere and all at once. No conflicts! 😋 ☀ 🌍

[@davidstanley6243]

The Devil is in the details!

[@andrewjohnston6631]

I’m just hanging around here for AlmondScented to turn up so I can ask them yet again to cite an instance where Will flipped between “24h sun” and “24h sunlight”. Almond claimed that he interchanged those two terms during his Dubay video two months ago but has yet to provide the timestamp despite me asking for it dozens of times. A flerf not being able to provide evidence for their claims? Unpossible!

[@KentheDeer]

I’m glad the flerfs record themselves saying things they know will come back to bite them…😅

[@John.0z]

I am not sure that some are smart enough to have that awareness. Some seem to be smart enough to be heartless grifters, but others (particularly the followers who just post comments) seem to be of quite average IQ, at best.

[@SwaaallaGE]

Good point. The funny thing is though. Technically on a flat earth should be 24 hour sun too, everywhere

[@absoz]

At least some form of light, and definitely visible from somewhere like errr say near the peak of Mt Everest, all day long, all year long

[@JohnSmith-ux3tt]

And the flatties can't explain why it's not.

[@derekcoaker6579]

I love the reasoning that "the Sun moves far enough away to APPEAR to set." 😂🤦🏻

[@absoz]

@ like many of their “claims”, it doesn’t make sense

[@SwaaallaGE]

@derekcoaker6579 yeah. I mean its still 10 degrees up. But we are now blind

[@ChrisPavey85]

Although it's impossible for the sun to set on a flat earth. The flat earth theory is literally disproved twice a day. But in this case a sunset in Antarctica during the southern summer would prove it's not a globe.

[@rogerbarnett8412]

True...and that is why it will never be seen. Period.

[@TheJo4an]

If the sun sets in Antarctica during december, my first thought would not be "oh, the earth is flat". It would probably be something similar to "OMG WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!".

[@acies239]

You'd think that someone who truly believes the Earth is flat would jump all over this opportunity and have their name go down in history. It's almost like the flat eathers know the earth is a globe.

[@miraqen7801]

it's just an identity symbol to them tbh

[@buenacg]

Makes me wonder how most evangelical Christians would react if given the opportunity to prove definitively whether or not their god exists.

[@ReValveiT_01]

Flerfs have to exercise all the wilful ignorance they can muster whenever I ask them for a *scaled* flat world map/model that can be used to measure any distance between any two points on earth *like my scaled desk globe easily can* .

[@rodrigosampaio1560]

If flat eathers are wrong about the sun behavior in Antarctica, what else could they be wrong about 🤔

[@JB_inks]

It's almost as if they're complete idiots or something

[@profphilbell2075]

The opposite question would be easier to answer.

[@robertlafleur5179]

@@JB_inks They are certified idiots.

[@HonkMok]

everything.

[@GlauBueller-qp8ne]

I've heard FLERFS reproduce without sex. I could be wrong.

[@Davidjackman572]

I'm still not convinced that the flat earth community is not just one big massive troll operation

[@JohnVJay]

It is, but many of its members don't realize it.

[@johnqpublic7608]

you can find plenty of religitard channels that espouse flattardia.

[@JohnSmith-ux3tt]

I'm convinced that, for most of them, they really are that stupid. It's not so much that they believe in a flat earth. It's more why some of them do - the inane anti- science, anti-logic and anti-math " explanations" they come out with are total cringe.

[@Mrmarkparson]

It is sad to say, this won’t change anything. They will just adapt their model or say you are liars. Plus everyone involved is motivated to keep the debates going.

[@johncowan1993]

Watching them trying to come up with a model to explain what they see next month will be hilarious!

[@robertlafleur5179]

@@johncowan1993 Flerfs can't be any more hilarious than the last several years but I could be wrong.

[@RockinRobbins13]

_"Watching them trying to come up with a model to explain what they see next month will be hilarious!"_ But they don't have a model. Even as they pose in front of a conspicuously displayed Gleason projection of the globe, they will brag about having no model. That's not an accident. They know and believe the truth of the globe. They know and believe the tests that prove Earth is a globe. So they are very careful to construct their knowing lies in a way that there is no way to falsify them. You can't debunk no model. You can't debunk simple denial without any alternatives given. That is be deliberate design of the Flatopian Fanatics' deceptive strategy. When we accuse them of not understanding we give them far more credit and respect than they deserve.

[@legion162]

I'm happy to accept that the sunset you've described proves flat earth, however other sunsets prove the earth is a globe, so the only possible conclusion is the earth changes shape, between a pancake and a ball, no we just need to see a mechanism for how it would change 🤷

[@just9911]

The reality is that the earth is banana shaped.

[@legion162]

​@@just9911if they start believing the earth is banana shaped, will they be berf or barf 😂🤣

[@brandonm1708]

Donut shape makes it flat in some places and round in others, so that is the only possibility

[@miraqen7801]

@@just9911 are you sure it's not a donut?

[@GlauBueller-qp8ne]

Why is there 24 hours of DARKNESS at the North Pole, while there is a 24 hour sun at the South pole? THEN, this phenomena reverses poles in the other half of the year! Why, FLERFS?

[@Slicerwizard]

"PERSPECTIVE!!1!1!!" :)

[@misterjoerg8086]

@@Slicerwizard You mean Flerfspective!

[@miraqen7801]

_b-but muh refraksion !!_

[@GlauBueller-qp8ne]

@@miraqen7801 very convincing argument........NOT!!!!!!!

[@daniellassander]

If the sun sets during the 24/7 sun in Antarctica during the Antarctic summer, i will no longer be a globe earther, i will instead spend a lot of time, energy and money to bring the truth to the people that they have been lied to about the shape of the earth. Please save this comment, and do not ever delete it.

[@rodrigosampaio1560]

@@daniellassander you're totally safe

[@daniellassander]

@@rodrigosampaio1560 I know, i just want to demonstrate that i dont have a problem with the evidence we will see regardless of what the evidence says. Im trying to demonstrate that flat earthers cant be honest nor that they are confident.

[@RockinRobbins13]

@@daniellassander Evidence rules. Common sense and logic is only a tool to understand evidence. Aristotle taught, and everyone believed that since any idiot could hold a cannonball and a pebble in their two hands, it was obvious that gravity was tearing down on the heavier cannonball like blue blazes. The pebble, not so much. Now we know from everyday experience that more energy will propel things faster, so it was obvious that the cannonball MUST fall a lot quicker than the pebble. This is logically sound. Aristotle's theory was taught as truth in Western universities for a thousand years. At some point, this guy called Galileo (pesky varmint, wasn't he?) decided to conduct a demonstration by dropping two dissimilar weights from the top of the bell tower of the Cathedral of Pisa. Wouldn't you know it. The heavy and light weights fell side by side the entire height of the tower and ripped into the ground in perfect synchronicity. Boom. One boom, not two. Now what's more important? Are we slaves to logic or slaves to data? If we're honest, if we really want to know the truth, it is data that rules and logic at best helps us understand the evidence. _“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”_ ― John Adams

[@donnymiddlebrook]

Flerfers make me feel smart

[@billionllc]

The problem with this subject matter is that the answer is already known. A small but growing group of people who blur the lines between reality and imagination by using hallucinogens in no way changes established science.

[@RockinRobbins13]

They can't afford hallucinogens'. They can't even construct plausible lies. They have as much influence on the globe's opinion of the shape of the world as my pet rock.

[@larryscott3982]

Earth Awakening was brutal. But the denial that Flerfs have for Weiss Witsit etc asserting that 24 hr Antarctica is impossible and would crush FE, is just wishful thinking.

[@JW-mb6tq]

Nope…why would anyone that thinks the earth is round be upset. If the sun set that far south in Antarctica in December I would be amazed and questioning things.

[@EngelbertKarcovnik]

If the earth was flat, sun would newer set.

[@0xphk]

And all of it would be already burned if the flerf claimed distance would be real :D

[@vinny142]

"If the earth was flat, sun would newer set." And cats would have pushed everything off by now.

[@sebgur4401]

Not true, have you seen their flat earth model? The sun does set. But not like it does on real Earth :-)

[@ABC123jd]

That's ludicrous. Of course it would. It's been demonstrated multiple times.

[@EngelbertKarcovnik]

@@ABC123jd would like to see that work

[@Trevor_Austin]

The Sun will not set in Antarctica in December. It may not be visible due cloud or physical obstructions but it will not set. I’ll also predict that the 24 hour Sun will circle around behind an observer on the South Pole. Even though I’ve not been to Antarctica I’ll happily stick my neck out and predict these things. That’s because we live on a spherical planet. ps. Is anybody going to take a set of spring balance scales to measure the effect of a lower tangential velocity?

[@andrewjohnston6631]

Critical Think is bringing his scales.

[@TheZigZiggy]

I have a good excuse for the flat earthers, this entire Antarctica trip is going to take place in a holodeck.

[@nebulan]

The sunsets i take pictures of prove the globe. The sun clearly shining on the clouds from below

[@nebulan]

Ok it proves the sun sets. The sun can't set on the flat earth model they use. Ancient Egyptians saw the sun set and believed it went into the duat. But timezones today easily price the ancient Egyptians wrong

[@rickkwitkoski1976]

When a flattie says that they will discard flat earth and accept globe earth IF THERE IS 24hr, non setting sun south of the Antarctica circle in December, you will have encountered your first honest flat earther.

[@ciaranflanagan-g9q]

Not much chance of the bookies giving odds against a 24 hr sun in Antarctica during the southern summer solstice, I suppose the flat earthers could bet against a 24hr sun but could they be that stupid ?

[@horisview]

The 24 hour sun is already happening there. What are the flatliners really expecting?

[@Welchs11]

Flat erf....Man what a smelly little club

[@andrelaflamme4379]

"If I ignore a proof that I can see with my eyes, what will it says about me". Éclipse. You ignore eclipses. It says it all

[@johnqpublic7608]

you mean flattards ignore eclipses.

[@johnqpublic7608]

let's point out that the sun can never get anywhere near the horizon on a flat earth. for a sun that is around 3000 miles up, it would need to get 35,000 miles away to get within 5 degrees of the horizon. ...but, if the sun sets in december at union glacier there is definitely something wrong with the globe.

[@profphilbell2075]

At 0.5 degrees above the horizon the sun would need to be 343,766 miles away on flat earth at 3,000 miles high. In reality, at 0.5 degrees above the horizon, the sun is at high noon 5,800 miles away, making the sun absurdly close at 50 miles up if earth was flat.

[@psalux18963]

Just a simple twilight is impossible on the flat earth, according to flat earth rules. Indirect light (like the twilight or any alleged reflection of the sun) has a longer path than the light directly from the light source. This means that if you can't see the sun anymore because it's too distant, then also the indirect light cannot reach you, and after the setting of the sun there should be pitch black darkness everywhere.

[@devilriding6106]

These “flatearthers” don’t truly believe that the earth is flat that’s why.. 😂

[@deadrose007]

The Star Link Satellite network proves that the earth isn't flat.

[@psalux18963]

The are 10,000 arguments that each one disprove the flat earth. We know that. And we know that flerfers just don't care.

[@profphilbell2075]

Of course!

[@JohnSmith-ux3tt]

​@@psalux18963We also know that flerfers don't understand why each one disproves the flat earth.

[@jayjayokocha4462]

in flat earth sun never set, It's unbelievable how stupid they are haha

[@steve26553]

A setting sun anywhere disproves flat earth. The sun going down below the horizon proves the earth is spherical and cannot happen in the flat earth model. And yes, the sun will remain in the sky over Antarctica in December

[@tbrown3356]

That's unreasonable. So why are Jeran and Witsit even going if you all are just going to declare no matter what earth is a globe? Way to stack the deck.

[@janosszabo98]

@@tbrown3356 That's the thing about facts. They don't change. We're not going to declare that the earth is a globe because of this trip, it's a known fact for well over 2000 years. Jizzm and Wet$hit is going because they're retards who deny reality and facts. There's no deck stacking going on here. This is a trip to demonstrate well established facts to retards. That's it.

[@tbrown3356]

​@@janosszabo98I can't argue with you that Jeran and Witsit are we Todd's, but Will's leading the globers into contradicting their own claims for years that the sun can never set on a flat earth. Suddenly, the globers are saying they will become flat earthers if the sun sets in Antarctica. I believe pastor Will when he says he doesn't know earth is a globe. Your fake confidence is not winning anyone over. I'll let you in on the trick. It's not an experiment. It's an affirming the consequent formal logical fallacy. Here's the real ticker, earth is measured flat and always has been.

[@janosszabo98]

@@tbrown3356 Your kicker is nothing more than a fart in the wind without evidence. Show me those flatness measurements. I say the earth is a globe and I can present evidence. Google McToon radius and McToon curve to find many evidence in one place nicely organized for you. Now let's see those flat measurements.

[@tbrown3356]

​@@janosszabo98McToon is the same person saying a setting sun debunks flat earth and a setting sun proves flat earth simultaneously. 😂😂😂. Yeah, I'll pass on googling him.

[@davejolley67]

Why is so many fixed on who's right or wrong? Why not together discover the undeniable truth together? The truth is the truth no matter one's beliefs or opinions.

[@profphilbell2075]

If the sun is going around your head, as in the flat earth model, the sun can only approach from your right , track horizontally and leave on your left. At no point could the sun go below the ground, in other words “set”. When you are at Union Glacier, please take photos of stars all around you at the horizon. If you can see the stars at the horizon then those stars while facing the North Pole, must be on the opposite far side of the earth. So what happened to the Sun? If it does however get dark in Antarctica because the sun is no longer visible, then the globe model is falsified.

[@pentallica893]

Exactly. He and mctoon and the rest of them are being completely dishonest here and flat earthers see it. Mctoon says in almost all of his streams that sunsets debunk flat earth. So I would like to hear mctoons or wills explanation for why the sun SHOULD set in Antarctica if it's flat. They say a sunset will prove flat earth. I would lime to know how.

[@pentallica893]

Also, the globe model being "falsified" DOESN'T mean that the earth ISNT a globe. Does it falsify the earth being a globe or dose is falsify our understanding of celestial objects? Saying that it doesn't match the globe model doesn't make it magically match any flat earth model. Pure dishonesty Here. Sunsets match a globe. So a sunset will not debunk a globe.

[@Ann_Alglands]

Might be a smidge difficult to photograph stars with the sun up the entire time.

[@Merv63]

Sorry they won’t see stars, the sun will be up all the time they are there!

[@korosensei4384]

​@@pentallica893It needs to set to illuminate rest of the flat earth. If antarctica is the boundary around FE, and the sun circles around them, then how will the sun illuminate rest of the FE ?? Especially if its a small local sun like feers believe.

[@MyFavoriteFive]

Please show us a 360 shadow of objects when you all go. Thanks and safe travels

[@andrewjohnston6631]

I’ve been keeping an eye on the webcams from the Australian bases. One of them has just entered 24h sun and the others are soon to follow. The webcams update every 3 minutes. Hopefully one of them will get some good weather soon and we’ll see 360° shadows.

[@flashburn52]

You don't see flat earthers doing it because grifters gotta grift.

[@Dad_Woof]

The sun setting at all debunks flat earth period. It’s that easy.

[@whereswa11y]

Nice video…. The rule is more than one sunset per year at the south pole is too many .

[@pentallica893]

Explain how a sunset in Antarctica while they are there is something that is only possible if the earth is flat. I'm waiting for a flat-earth sunset explanation. Something you all claim is an impossibility on a flat earth.

[@whereswa11y]

@ at the south poke, the day and year are the same length. Only possible on a globe.

[@whereswa11y]

@ when at the South Pole the rises at the equinox in September and sets at the equinox in march. The North Pole is exactly opposite.

[@ssslprst]

I haven't had not one flat earther explain a solar night at the north pole

[@jaysec6377]

Bro just stick to the experiment, the earth is a sphere which we’ve known since 300 bc

[@ReValveiT_01]

He is sticking to the experiment. Everything since the announcement *has been* the experiment.

[@jaysec6377]

@ this isnt the experiment, that is going to Antarctica and watching the 24 hour sun, this is just milking some views before the trip, again we’ve known since the 300bc era that the world is a sphere

[@tbrown3356]

​@@jaysec6377it's not an experiment. It's flawed contradicting logic. The same people who told you sunsets could never happen on a flat earth are now saying a sun in Antarctica will turn them into flat earthers. 😂

[@jaysec6377]

@ no TFE is an experiment, this latest video is not

[@alejandrovallejo4330]

I wouldn’t say they the sun set in Antartica on TFE day proves flat Earth, because the Earth could still be a ball, but it would definitely be a red flag to start asking questions about our current model including the planet’s shape and our understanding of physics.

[@IchDuForeverExplorering]

Southern celestial pole prove globe earth

[@profphilbell2075]

Naturally. If stars are rotating above our heads we would see them move horizontally across our field of view.

[@jaysonchrzanowski9230]

Creaky tossed his ear gauges in to this challenge also!

[@CryptoRoast_0]

The way you were treated in the earth awakenings discord yesterday was disgusting.

[@psalux18963]

On both equinoxes the sun is all the day just above the horizon at both poles (refraction displaces the sun upward by 0.5°), and the sun circles from left to right at the north pole, and from right to left at the south pole. Yes, this particular situation suggests an easy explanation, the one you're thinking about now (if you're smart).

[@HUGOPEREZYOUTUBE]

In a Flat Earth is impossible sunsets even in poles

[@Luka.5064]

Well I’d say it would make you exactly like the flat earthers.

[@Darth_Lunas]

God I wish I could go. If only to poke fun at the flerfs.

[@Davidjackman572]

i don't wanna go to Antarctica. too cold🥶

[@korosensei4384]

​@@Davidjackman572not that bad during summer, hovers around 0 C on avarage

[@johnqpublic7608]

they'll be sharing transport with other people going down there. i would spend the entire time mocking the flattards to the other travelers. the flattards would be in tears by the time they left.

[@tonydagostino6158]

The sun might go behind a mountain, the flerfs will call that "set" and declare flat victory.

[@adamjohnsonstudio7910]

TFE participants are going to have their own camp a little ways out to prevent that from happening

[@matrixlag4074]

I cant wait to hear the flat earthers excuse for why there is a 24hr sun in the south pole. They will either say its been faked or they will move the goal post and say that a 24hr sun means nothing. They are so predictable. LOL

[@Slicerwizard]

What do you mean they "will" say? They've been saying it for the last couple of months - "sun simulator", "two suns", "coffee cup caustic" and more BS.

[@RakingItIn]

Flat earth is probably scrambling right now trying to find another way to tell us 2+2 doesn’t equal 4

[@beteljooz6180]

They're waiting for Terence Howard to come to their rescue.

[@andreferrigno6025]

WILL ... make sure you take time lapse videos of the shadows !! For example take a video of the shadow of a pole... and watch the shadow going around in a full 360 degrees circle around the pole ... that proves that the sun is going all around your head and the sun is going more south from where you stand .. it's is almost as good as video taping the sun go 360 degrees in the sky .. Better yet ... take a series of photos throughout the day of the flat earthers standing around ... and don't let them know about it ... make sure that there is something very recognizable in the background .. this will showcase that their own shadows are going around the flat earthers in a complete circle through out the day !!!

[@Coppertunes]

I absolutely despise the flat earth hypothesis (its not a theory, as they have no model, not an ounce of proof) and the goons that support it.

[@craigevans8912]

It’s not going to set though is it. 😂

[@nathanielratcliff7456]

Absolutely 🤣 at "they despise Professor Dave more"

[@horisview]

But they only can blame themselves. He makes educational vids, they attack them for no reason. Then they had it coming.

[@tbrown3356]

Will is finally realizing the problem with his affirming the consequent formal logical fallacy. For years, globers have been saying if sunsets earth is not flat, and now Will is saying if sunsets earth is flat. We're all just sitting back watching and laughing at the globe concept believers who fell for Will's fraud. 😂😂😂

[@horisview]

and another flatliner who just reads video titles and doesn't comprehend what's being said in the video. that's one of the reasons you fall for fe-conmen. and better stop talking about logic if the whole fe-claim is a fallacy within itself.

[@ciaranflanagan-g9q]

If the sun sets in Antarctica during the southern summer solstice the earths flat its really that simple have you not been listening?

[@andrewjohnston6631]

Welcome back, TB.

[@tbrown3356]

​@@ciaranflanagan-g9q so that's the same claim as "sunsets can never happen on a flat earth?" Sounds like a glaring contradiction.

[@ciaranflanagan-g9q]

@@tbrown3356 Nobody knows what a flat earth is, as its your flat earth CEOs who made the claim 24hr sun is impossible on flat earth in Antarctica during the southern summer solstice, if you've an issue with this you need to take up with your superiors.

[@kosmox]

Do we know any details about TFE such as the date and duration of the stream?

[@MF______]

You must not show Oakley without a clear trigger warning. This is dangerous!

[@truthseeker1278]

It is really strange and proofs the fact, 2 many flatters it has turned 2 a religion long since!

[@merrillhess5626]

If the earth were flat, there would be adventure tours and theme parks at the edge. Disney would have had one years ago.

[@tbrown3356]

People think their edge is an earth curve hill that boats are falling over on a spherical earth. We debunked your edge.

[@maxm3522]

I imagine it would be pitch black and insanely cold

[@horisview]

@@tbrown3356how would you debunk anything with your constant ad-hoc nonsense and pseudoscience?

[@tbrown3356]

@@horisview The black swan debunked your edge you believe boats are falling over. I never claimed science because I don't make category errors like you.

[@psalux18963]

@@tbrown3356 "I never claimed science" At least that, you indulge in pseudoscience and you declare it's pseudoscience.

[@drandrewclarke]

ok, I have a gambling problem. I love to gamble! Unfortunately I cannot get any bookies to take my money on the sun not setting. I also cannot get any bookie to give any odds that not a single flat earthed will change his/her tune when they see the sun not set. I just don't understand.

[@kevinvanhorn2193]

Nope. Under the FE model the Sun is always hovering ABOVE the Earth and never sets. Even at midnight it would be high in the sky, very visible, and about 100,000 times brighter than a full Moon. Just do the math.

[@tbrown3356]

That's interesting, since McToon and the other globe concept believers are saying the sun setting in Antarctica will prove earth is flat. You all need to get together and figure out your claims.

[@psalux18963]

​@@tbrown3356No. McToon may say emphatically that he'll become a flat earther, but he doesn't say that a sunset proves the flat earth. He says that a sunset, exclusively at 80°S at the time of the southern summer equinox, disproves the globe. Science never proves anything, it only disproves. And Will Duffy said something wrong when he said that. Science doesn't change, maybe someone uses the wrong words sometimes.

[@tbrown3356]

​​@@psalux18963why would he become a flat earther if the sun sets in Antarctica, if he doesn't believe a sunset can now happen on a flat earth? Just concede that the gkobers like Toon and Professor Dave were lying all those years when they said a sunset can never happen on a flat earth.

[@psalux18963]

​​​@@tbrown3356 He knows perfectly that the sun won't set in antarctica on this period of the year, so he can enjoy the luxury to say he'll become a flat earther. It's a sign of his confidence and certainty. It's something that no flat earther probably will say if the opposite happens, because none of you actually is interested in the truth, it's just a game of self brainwashing for feeling important . I am sure that you know very well that actually you understand nothing of the topics you try to speak about. And you'll never say that you'll go back to the globe if the sun stays up, because no flat earther can be honest for being a flat earther.

[@psalux18963]

​@@tbrown3356Why are you playing the idiot? 2 different concepts. 1. It's impossible a sunset on a flat earth. Flat earthers, in order to somehow make it possible have fabricated one new law of optics (flerspective) and one new law of physics (the light has a limited range). The topic of the discourse is exclusively the flat earth. 2. Any hypothesis about reality must be consistent in every aspect. A tilted sphere moving arountd a source of ligh must have alternatively both poles for half the orbit in the light and for the other half of the orbit in the darkness. The sphericity of the earth dictates that in antarctica, at a high latitude, around the summer solstice you have to see the sun circling in the sky for many consecutive days. If it doesn’t the sphericity of the earth is debunked. The topic of the discourse is exclusively the globe earth, the flat earth has nothing to do with this hypothetical event, which means the sun setting in Antarctica at 80°S of latitude, in mid December (that will never happen). Each event (24h sun or sun setting) disproves one of the 2 hypotheses, without proving the other (proofs don't exist except in maths and geometry).

[@RockinRobbins13]

Speaking of pizzas, we need to ask a few questions about the Earth Pizza. On the Flatopian Pizza, however the shape goes, one thing is for sure. The distance between the north pole and equator has been measured, and it's....hey let's do this in nautical miles because there are 60 miles per degree of latitude. So 90º from North Pole to Equator times 60 miles per degree is 5400 nautical miles. Now how far south can we go on Flatopia? No Flatopian will ever answer that question so let's be really generous and put the ice wall at -70º. Yeah, I know that's out to sea and we aren't giving enough distance but I want to be fair to our Flatopian Friends. So 70º times 60 nm/deg equals 4200 miles from the Equator to somewhere north of the Ice Wall. So the minimum distance on the Flat Earth shape (we'll just call it a Pizza for convenience here) from the center to the outside is 9.600 nautical miles. And that is only half the diameter of the Pizza, which is 19,200 miles, calculated very conservatively in the Flatopians' favor. We'll get back to that. Let's take a garden variety 19 inch pizza. Could you put two pepperonis on it that were half of that, 9.5 inches apart? Sure you could! How about two pepperonis that were 15" apart. You could put hundreds of pairs of pepperonis on that pizza that were 15 inches apart, couldn't you? 16"? Sure. 17? 18? 19"? Piece of cake. Your only restriction is the diameter of the pizza and you can put any pair of pepperonis on there that are less than the diameter of the pizza apart. Kapeech? 20"? No. Back to Earth. If it's a two dimensional shape, we've calculated above it has to be no less than 19,200 nautical miles in furthest extent, one edge to the opposite edge. Now Flatopians, find me any two locations on Earth that are more than half the diameter of the pizza, 10,800 miles (the distance from 90º N to 90ºS)? Find those pepperonis or Flat Earth is flattened!

[@kentaylor6563]

There is only one reason flat earthers are even on KZbin $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

[@horisview]

yes, that's why they have their patreons and multiple accounts on different online platforms.

[@horisview]

we need "thanks for playing 🌍✌"-banners down there!

[@michaeldunlavey6015]

Confused. How does the FE sun ever set, no matter where you are?

[@deep_space3491]

Yeah they say it's because of 'perspective' but that's just bs, sunsets would not work on a flat earth. On a flat earth the sun would just shrink but never move under the horizon.

[@JVSkellington]

The fish food and Nintendo console on this video was great.

[@youarevictoria4981]

Thanks as always.

[@CherudexGaming]

you guys have dropped school during first grade... am i right?

[@adiohead]

I'm a glober but MCToon's logic doesn't make sense. He says that the Sun can't set on a flat Earth, but then states that if the Sun sets in Antarctica then the Earth must be flat.

[@MCToon]

They claim the sun will set. I expand on my commitment: if the sun contradicts the globe I will take those actions. This is much broader.

[@-ion]

@@adiohead Geometry and perspective dictate that the sun can't set on a flat earth. However, flat earthers who haven't computed the consequences of perspective on a flat earth claim it does. Given that the globe model will be falsified by a setting sun on Antarctica during the trip and flat earthers claim the sun will set, they must be right and perspective must be wrong.

[@ReValveiT_01]

He's "handing" this one to flat earth on this occasion, that's all.

[@-ion]

It seems my earlier response has disappeared. Geometry and perspective dictate that the sun can't set on a flat earth. However, flat earthers who haven't computed the consequences of perspective say it will. If the sun sets in Antarctica during the trip, the flat earthers were correct and perspective must be wrong.

[@bringer666]

No, a sunset in Antartica during TFE would not prove a flat earth. It would only refute the Globe Earth model. That could mean that the Earth is another shape or maybe it's not tilted or many other reasons, but it still does not PROVE a flat earth.

[@absoz]

See the TFE vids from maybe a week or two ago where Will discusses why nothing else really works - it was a 2 parter

[@IchDuForeverExplorering]

no it could be a globe with 0° tilted rotational axis to the sun

[@andrewjohnston6631]

@@IchDuForeverExploreringThat doesn’t explain everything else we see the sun do.

[@NaptownPete]

I was waiting for the FE proof, but the proof never rose to the occasion. The definitive proof that flat earth does not exist is using simple right triangle trigonometry that given the geological position distance of the sun at sunset masured from the noon geographical position of the sun with side a of the right triangle with the FE sun height, the lowest the sun might get is 11 degrees above the horizon. Flat earthers, please do the math.

[@RockinRobbins13]

The Flatopian Cult will never introduce the faintest evidence there's a fart's chance in a typhoon their delusions might be true. They're not about that. They are strictly about, and almost all their efforts are directed toward casting doubt on the reality of the globe and heliocentrism that terrify them for irrational reasons. They somehow are twisted enough to believe that if they are successful in creating enough doubt about heliocentrism and the spherical nature of Earth that their completely unsupported, self-contradictory, badly conceived and undefended set of memes will automatically take the place of the science they destroy. They are simple anarchists. Their mission is confined to attempted but futile destruction.

[@Jesusisking247]

The sun doesn't set, you can only see visible from so far away, after so far the density of the atmosphere and the range of our vision can no longer see the light, you can so see the size of the sun shrink as it gets farther away which proves the sun is moving not us in the heliocentric model the size of the sun would never change size.

[@Heoi_Bikuni]

The sun does NOT shrink when it's sets. Why are you lying? You're making Jesus cry.

[@Jesusisking247]

@Tootoo-y6o How does it feel not to be able to grasp reality, and not believe your God given common sense?

[@HadriansWallNZ]

I live in NZ and daylight is getting longer……

[@barryon8706]

That's not fair. I'm sure a lot of flat earth channels will concede that a sunset proves a flat eath. 🙃

[@johnqpublic7608]

the major channels that are all grifters won't, because there will always be flattard dunces for them to fleece. the religious loonies don't care, because they think the bible says the earth is flat and regardless what reality shows us, the bible is right.

[@SuperElg321]

Any glober getting mad that if the sun sets the earth is flat is not much better than the flat earthers we have delt with for all these years. Worry not my globe defenders! Sun will stay up ;P

[@abcdefg5185]

I cant understand how the sun setting proves flat earth. can someone please explain. cheers

[@psalux18963]

Actually the sun setting in mid december in Antarctica at 80°S disproves the globe earth, it doesn't prove the flat earth. Mainly because nothing is ever proven, in science, only disproven.

[@maxtazykorobov8070]

@@psalux18963 What are your predictions of the TFE?

[@jimygod]

A hand full of people claiming something, does not mean millions believe the same. The Santa Claus i believe in, is not fat nor does he wear a red suit.

[@psalux18963]

Yes, the flerfers claiming something, doesn't mean that the 99% of the remaining world population believes the same bollocks.

[@chrrissss]

What do you think about those claims flat earth channels have made about the sun in Antarctica , don't you think if they if they put their channels on the line (like some flat earth debunking channels have) that it would show conviction in their beliefs , and not doing it shows no conviction, and how do you think Akshay Nanavatis route and planned timescale for completion could work if the earth is flat with Antarctica as a ring around the earth.

[@jimygod]

@@chrrissss flat earth channels are not millions of people. They are just a hand full of people. I don't have to believe any of them. I believed government teachings for long enough, i'm not just blindly gonna believe someone else and conform to a model they present. Nearly 90 percent of globe believers don't understand the globe theory fully. They just have a belief because government taught it to them. And as for Akshay Nanavatis. What country is he traveling to Antarctica from and what country is he traveling to from Antarctica?

[@chrrissss]

@@jimygod my point was about conviction,. If flat Earth channels truly believe their claims and want to prove the world wrong, wouldn't it show stronger conviction to stake their credibility-like some debunking channels do-by directly engaging with evidence like the Antarctic sun phenomena? Akshay Nanavat is starting from a known location south of Argentina and ends south of New Zealand going across Antarctica on a specific route. If Antarctica were a massive ice ring around a flat Earth, his planned route and timescales wouldn't match reality. The logistics simply wouldn't work. he's flying to Antarctica from Punta Arenas Chile with A.L.E

[@jolupe5200]

_"A hand full of people claiming something"_ what then is liked by many thousands of followers. Claiming nothing but "flat" without any idea about a flat earth model behind your belief may help your faith, but isn't it a dumb behaviour?

[@stalefish7643]

THE SUN WONT SET

[@Thirdbase9]

And that my liege is how we know the earth to be banana shaped.

[@theStrayKat1980]

wow, your eyes are so red and glassy, Will! it's rather impressive!

[@nokianx400]

Why don't you all fly to antarctica and go to the edge of it and show us.

[@Republicofshaka]

How would Pangea look like in a flat earth

[@JohnVJay]

Of course, in reality sunsets, any sunsets, disprove the flat Earth "model" because their sun is always above the dirt pizza. So the sun should never set anywhere at any time.

[@gaetanoroccuzzo]

It has been graphically demonstrated several times over that anywhere on earth (if the flat earth claim is correct) the sun, at sunset, would never go below 27′ of altitude.

[@JohnVJay]

​@@gaetanoroccuzzoYou mean 27 degrees, not 27 feet, right? But yeah, it would either never set, or rise and set at the same time for everyone on Earth. A child can understand this, which makes flerfs less perceptive than small children.

[@gaetanoroccuzzo]

​@@JohnVJay It all depends on your standpoint. Nevertheless, just as a king once said: "In my kingdom the sun never sets." In flatdom, the sun never sets too.

[@kernicterus1233]

It’s more than just 24h sun at Union Glacier though isn’t it? Flerfs have argued their nonsense but never discussed how the opposite is true at opposite sides of the earth. They cannot predict, without the use of globe mechanics, what time the sun will rise/set at Union Glacier on any date in the future, nor why this is in opposition to that of 80degrees north latitude, oh, and that they both always add up to 24h.

[@3KnoWell]

Will. Please copy the link to Toon’s video and save the video into the internet archive. This will give you a record to reference that will eliminate anyone from saying that you fabricated the video. I know that it will not ever come to this, by the internet archive’s Way Back Machine is an excellent unbiased location to store the copy of the video. ~3K

[@derekrobillard7320]

Will, proving flat earth and disproving the globe are two different things. If I were you, I’d avoid confusing these.

[@johnqpublic7608]

you're right, but flattards are not capable of such nuanced thinking.

[@waxybho]

it be so cool to go on this trip

[@ahlplex]

sarcasm- If the sun can not truly set on a Flat Earth and the sun doesn't set in Antarctica during December, wouldn't that make Antarctica Flat?

[@benjaminrickdonaldson]

Specific sunsets CAN work on flat earth. But then all the rest are impossible so its a dumb argument.

[@psalux18963]

Augustine of Hippo The literal meaning of Genesis. "Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of the world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men. If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion [quoting 1 Tim 1:7].

[@RockinRobbins13]

It does seem plausibly Augustinian in construction. If it's a fake it's a pretty good one. Citation or it's a lie. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. References please. St Augustine was confirmed to believe in the globe. All early Christians did. Here's a quote from the Christian Classics Ethereal Library website. _"Christ will "showeth himself to be throughout all nations in the whole round world, in great glory, but in great tribulation."_ Excuse the Middle English translation there from the website. I can't post the link to the supporting data. Evidentiary links are strictly forbidden on KZbin. Even links to my own photography at Google Photos will result in my post vanishing without a trace, without notification or consent. KZbin will not even give us the respect of telling us what we said that was "offensive." KZbin censorship makes the Soviet Union look like the Mickey Mouse Club.

[@psalux18963]

​​@@RockinRobbins13De Genesi ad litteram libri duodecim (The Literal Meaning of Genesis), AD 401-415, translated by John Hammond Taylor, SJ, 1982 in Ancient Christian Writers: the works of the Fathers in translation, v. 41-42 (New York: Paulist Press).

[@psalux18963]

​@@RockinRobbins13 Augustine is bashing the flat earther christians of his times (there were a few). It was relevant the opposition to the sphericity of the earth by the theological school of Antiochia.

[@RockinRobbins13]

@@psalux18963 _"De Genesi ad litteram..."_ THAT's how you do it man! Do what the Flatopian Fraudsters never do. Quote reputable sources that people can check out themselves and verify that you stand on solid ground, while the flatties depend on the awesome power of the mush between their ears to COMMAND the universe into obedience. There MUST be a difference between us and them or it no longer makes any difference. During the Inquisition, flatties were executed as heretics. I don't like execution, but that would quickly end the problem today. And the infamous Inquisitors weren't exactly infallible, killing many innocent people. Other than that they might be useful today! Okay, maybe not. Augustine was the perfect reply to those who attack Christianity, charging that we must "check our brains at the door" in order to be a Christian. Especially picked on is the more conservative Protestant branch. Let's read a bit of the work of the man at the beginning of all this "foolishness." _”What shall we say of the mathematical sciences? Shall we deem them to be the dreams of madmen? Nay, we cannot read the writings of the ancients on these subjects without the highest admiration; an admiration which their excellence will not allow us to withhold… But if the Lord has been pleased to assist us by the work and ministry of the ungodly in physics, dialectics, mathematics, and other similar sciences, let us avail ourselves of it, lest, by neglecting the gifts of God spontaneously offered to us, we be justly punished for our sloth.”_ _”Therefore, in reading profane authors, the admirable light of truth displayed in them should remind us, that the human mind, however much fallen and perverted from its original integrity, is still adorned and invested with admirable gifts from its Creator. If we reflect that the Spirit of God is the only fountain of truth, we will be careful, as we would avoid offering insult to him, not to reject or condemn truth wherever it appears. In despising the gifts, we insult the Giver.”_ John Calvin, The Institutes of the Christian Religion, chapter 2, sec. 15, 1536 CE. The TLDR version of that, dumbed down for less linguistically gifted modern people: ignoring the truth of science is unthinkable foolishness for the Christian. In fact, rejecting science is an insult to the God who created it. This reflects the real belief of all of Christianity. You might also notice that the level of his language exceeds even college graduates of today. People of yesterday were in no way inferior to us today.

[@RockinRobbins13]

@@psalux18963 Error by members is a given. However the church itself, from the beginning, believed and taught Earth is a sphere. That remains true today. Flatopians love to strut around pretending to be Christian, instinctively trying to hide behind the faith that condemns them. However, today, every branch of the faith, Eastern Orthodox, Roman Catholicism, Methodist, Baptist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, run down the entire gamut, have websites, in which they express the tenants of their faith. I challenge all Flatopian Fanatics to find a significant branch of Christianity that believes in or teaches Flatopia, and publish that here. But that won't happen. Our Flatopian Friends are a strange lot. They don't use formulas. Math is fake. They couldn't explain buoyancy if they had to. They merely speak their brain farts into existence by the awesome power of oxygen deprived brains. Justification, evidence and reality are irrelevant. They are gods, little G gods, practicing a fake religion based on lies.