Best Friends Play DmC: Devil May Cry - Definitive Edition (Part 12)

[@Gunzerkingidiot]

Yes the Angelic Sniper Rifle Also known as the Baby Boomer

[@SkywalkerBatPrime]

Fuck, that's strong.

[@ColdNorth0628]

Or Plan B as others might call it.

[@4thSurviver]

@@ColdNorth0628 I'm just picturing OG Dante using that weapon and going woohoo as he shoots demonic babies with it.

[@Scroteydada]

SSS

[@ninboy01]

@@4thSurviver Wouldn't that just be the Spiral in DMC3?

[@nenshoufox]

Dante:”Vergil WTF?!” Vergil:”YEETUS THE FETUS DANTE!” Dante:”AGAIN WTF?!” Vergil:”I PULLED THE DEVIL TRIGGER! BANG BANG BANG!”

[@TAMAMO-VIRUS]

Oh god, my sides

[@satorukuroshiro]

That is too funny yet mortifying with context.

[@phobos5323]

MOVE FAST BABY, DON'T BE SLOW STEP ASIDE, RELOAD, TIME TO GO

[@zacharycooke7629]

Funny enough this almost exactly like an average conversation between me and my best friend

[@justletmecomment6453]

+God Saiyan Prodigy please overlay this in the compilation

[@redhellreaper9421]

Why didn't Vergil yell "JACKPOT" after sniping that fetus?

[@ilovehertodeath]

I literally shit myself because of that. Thanks.

[@kurozunakabuto9682]

Maybe this timeline Vergil would say ''all according to plan with my beloved gun *Keikaku* ''

[@masterelf12]

(720 snipes a fetus) *DEAD-ON*

[@satorukuroshiro]

Because that would be too much like the original, which the English wanted to get as far away from as possible because anything Japanese is apparently weeb content.

[@Gustavozxd13]

They probably felt it was gonna be a big deal of a scene, he did just a pregnant woman buy shooting her in the stomach and then in her face

[@ShadowStar765]

I can't wait for Vergil to use his iconic SNIPER RIFLE to shoot a hostage like the honorable warrior he is

[@Jackelbeaver]

RedWarden he leveled up Spiral and Gunmaster in this timeline

[@rustledentity5511]

I know. In the classic series Vergil did not conduct ambushes. Every time he fought Dante he announced his presence and made him fully aware of his intention to start a fight. Even Arkahm, Vergil had the decency to kill him face to face rather than backstab him. Hell, even when corrupted by Mundus Vergil led Dante out into the courtyard rather than fighting in that cramped room. The writers at Ninja Theory really had no idea what kind of person Vergil was, otherwise they wouldn't have written this scene the way it is.

[@illburnmydread]

@@Jackelbeaver kinda make sense, Spiral, the pregnancy prevention. But this was more like pregnancy deletion, though.

[@Yal_Rathol]

@@rustledentity5511 classic vergil would have been grateful dante brought him lilith and would have cut her head off the moment he finished congratulating dante. he wouldn't have engaged in a hostage exchange or gone back on his word, period.

[@AkaroXIV]

Where did this Vergil is honorable thing come from? He's just a power hungry weeb. Did everyone forget that the first thing he does when he sees his son for the first time is rip his arm off?

[@The1stChiodo]

*Vergil shoots 20 babies* "they shall know this devils power"

[@SomeRandomJackAss]

Summoned Swords surround her abdomen, then fly inward.

[@Negajoe]

Donte - "What the hell did you do that for?!" Vergin - "I had to." This is literally the closest thing we get to an explanation the entire game.

[@mrman6035]

The baby was armed Dante!

[@AzureKing963]

I guess they had no better way to show that Vergil is evil and should not be trusted. Well, other than his callous treatment of the Order during the swat raid.

[@flightlessagbsls]

No, Vergil says in the last scene that it was meant to get Mundus act impulsively and spend the Hellgate for the time being. Whether any of this was mentioned prior I can't remember though. It was also apparently the added scene, so originally yes, total nonsense lol.

[@BoulderPunchPodcast1]

@@flightlessagbsls My question is why would Mundus care? There's plenty of other demon ladies he could and probably has fucked by now. Why can't he just try this again and make another baby.

[@phobos5323]

@@flightlessagbsls WHY would Mundus act impulsively? Two damn lines before the child is even brought up, Phineas says Mundus is incapable of loving! Why does Lilith care about the baby? She only cares because Mundus cares! There's no rhyme or reason to this whole plot thread beyond causing a schism between Donte and Vergin, just like there's no logic to the Kat stuff. It's all so poorly written. I refuse to be even shocked by this travesty!

[@GenerationWest]

Vergin: No more babies for you! And now... TO THE VIRGILMOBILE!!!

[@caseywood36]

holy shit dude I watched your vids back in the day, man how the hell did you become a DMC fan

[@GenerationWest]

Knew it casually when DmC released, of course knew a chunk of the voice cast, but up until 5's announcement, I pulled that DT, and woke up to justice! (Wait "watched", that sounds like in past tense, how'd I lose you lol)

[@rogermoraldo2782]

Virgilemobile*

[@dyicedice3252]

Nannananannanananananana Vergiiiiiilll

[@gustavoangelo1304]

Best comment in a while

[@idon896]

Y'know "Judgement abort" doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well.

[@mr.platinum8388]

"Judgement Shot"

[@dantethewanderer4989]

@@mr.platinum8388 "Judgement Nut" - Wollie

[@phobos5323]

Yeetment Shot

[@SinHurr]

Manual Miscarriage of Divine Judgement

[@RenegadeSparks]

well, you can always just say he Judgement cut the kid's umbilical cord

[@blue6sub6remnant6]

"Foolishness Dante, if his mother is holding him in past the fifth trimester, we can destroy Berial IN UTERO."

[@rainingcomplete3018]

blue6sub6remnant6 OG Dante and Vergil debating political matters sounds hilarious

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

I don’t like that you called the baby Berial, and I hate that it’s technically correct.

[@GreyRush]

AND THERES THE SCENE Vergil, A character who originally goes on his quest for power after losing his mother, murders a pregnant woman by shooting her in the stomach first. Jesus christ

[@junior1388666]

in my poit of view he just killed two demons. and two important ones. isn't that the whole point of the game? i mean....the story of this game is shit, i agree. but my only problem with this scene is Virgil using a rifle like weak human instead of just doing a judgement cut on that bitch and her stupid ugly ass baby

[@VergilHiltsLT]

@@junior1388666 Vergil was always about honor, but fuck that, let's give him a sniper rifle and have him randomly kill a baby FIRST and his mother afterwards because "he had to".

[@junior1388666]

+VergilHilts think he killed the baby first cause it was his main concern. he's planing on ruling the world and the last thing he needs is the mundus' heir getting in his way with revenge, or whatever. and if he killed lilith first the baby could survive....maybe? dont know, man. all i know is that Virgil would do anything for power. even willing to kill his own brother. so why would he give two fucks about a evil baby? "is sanity the price to pay for POWER?" Virgil would say "Yes....scum"

[@VergilHiltsLT]

@@junior1388666 He always had a code of honor. He was proud because of who his father was, and he would never ambush an opponent, let alone shoot him/it in the back with a GUN, something Vergil was always strictly against. Because he sees guns as a dishonorable way to fight, utilizing a simple to use mechanism someone built to "cheat" rather than using pure skill and the power within yourself, the way of a true warrior. Therefore, this is a direct opposite of Vergil from the original games. He only tries Dante's way with guns once at the end of DMC3, to finish off Arkham with a single shot, and only because Arkham knocked one of the guns out of Dante's hand, which Vergil happened to catch. It's not about the baby, it's about the way Vergin dealt with it.

[@boyo357]

Isn't that the point capcom pushed them to make the characters different and they are. Like really now.

[@garrettcarter2959]

Mundas' monologuing really undercuts the emotional impact the game is trying to sell. Instead of "You don't fuck with a god," he should've been "MY BOY!" And from that point on, he should go into an unstoppable rage whenever he sees Dante, who basically acquired Litlith for her execution. How much better would it have been if my his boss fight, he was all, "My son's blood is on your hands." Instead, it's back to the god stuff and how so much better he is than Dante. I know they wanted to remind you that he was the bad guy, but by this point, the stakes should've been more personal. These two have been a thorn in his side, sure, but now they hit him where it hurts and he hates himself for allowing them to make it this far. He should no longer care about the titles, the history, the bloodlines, the only thing that matters is what they did to him here and now. The way he is now, it doesn't feel like he cared about his son that much at all. The monologuing devolves Mundas back to any other villain, no more important than Bob Barbus even. There is practically no difference between them other than aesthetics and the artificial importance the plot insists upon. Mundas had every opportunity to be written as a better character by this point in the story, but the game chose not to. Even without the controversy, this game would've been torn apart for it's legitimate story problems.

[@darkpuppetlordful]

OR they could have doubled down and be shown Mundus to be incapable of love as he's claimed to be. Like he's annoyed he lost his investment

[@nathanielbaldevino5364]

Garrett Carter Mundus can't feel love as Phineas said, his child will be just a tool for him.

[@garrettcarter2959]

​@@nathanielbaldevino5364 I'm not saying it's out of character for this version of Mundus to act like this from what we've seen of him, I'm saying I think it was a bad creative decision to keep him a stagnant character when a catalyst for change was right there.

[@jman2856]

If that’s the case, why does Muundus ask Dante why did he kill his child in a saddened tone of voice? If his child is just a tool, why does he suddenly need to understand why Dante killed his child? Also, he gets furious when Dante makes fun of his child’s death. Obviously, Muundus cares.

[@VergilHiltsLT]

@@jman2856 He doesn't care enough, though. At any rate, what difference does it make when he's so easily taken care of, both in canon and gameplay terms? They don't even seal him off like in the first game, he just gets killed because he's weak enough.

[@MrDioXIII]

Remember guys, Stronk Wahmen in this game being traded like poker chips, beaten and shot at, unlike the original DMC and those "prostitutes with guns".

[@austin9568AuraMasterDX]

Watch as she limps over with her head held high

[@rikowolfin4984]

@@Dasaltwarrior They wanted Kat to look like your girlfriend, AKA a literal waifu. So to NT your girlfriend has Squirrel semen all over her fingers constantly, seems to be cracked out most of the time, and needs to be yelled at to think of solutions to problems. Strong Female character everyone, her only purpose in the story is to be literally used as a tool the whole time with ZERO development for here outside being used for Dantes development.

[@Dasaltwarrior]

Now that you mentioned it, I am impressed that they were able to make a story that has one of the main characters raped as a kid, and have me literally forget about it seconds after it was mentioned for years till I saw the cutscene again. Kat really is the most impressionable heroine DMC's ever had. Lady aint got shit on this.

[@Samm815]

That’s “strippers with guns”. A more honorable profession.

[@ryanoleynik5041]

But wait! Kat is helping with the final plan! She got shot, beaten and captured, where she was taken to get tortured some more and than was pathetically rescued by the duo, BUT she learned the layout of Mundus' lair! Now she can just do voice over and draw some arrows! She won't be there at all or really do anything! Isn't that amazing and strong! Oh and pay no mind to the fact she is still probably limping and bleeding to death through the whole thing.

[@Ota-ty1re]

Yeah it doesn't help Mundus' character that he's constantly talking down to Dante and calling him a piece of shit that he could crush easily, when the start of the game establishes he doesn't feel secure in his power and won't until he's killed Dante. Bit of disconnect there.

[@andrewrobinson9825]

He didn't write "Plan B" he wrote "Plan V"

[@phobos5323]

What does the A in Plan A stand for again?

[@satorukuroshiro]

Except he always writes plan V.

[@mediam3957]

Plan Parenthood

[@4thSurviver]

Commence operation Vergil.

[@sousedmonk7418]

"No, Dante, I said 'Puuran Buii'. I prefer Japanese loan words. It's such an elegant language; the things you don't say carry so much more weight than what you do say. Like when I decided to yeetus the fetus without telling you. Elegance, Dante. Elegance."

[@nenshoufox]

For real can we take a moment to really look at how this game completely neutered two of the coolest characters in the franchise just to push Donte? Sparda was this legendary badass that you only really ever heard about in the original series but even then you could feel how powerful and demanding of respect he was even if he wasn’t around. Here? He’s practically nothing but a guy who ran off cause he banged a chick his bro didn’t like. Vergil was this tragic figure obsessed with power who held himself as a cool collected and powerful swordsman while having an honorable and prideful standard. Here? He’s a wimp who needs his brother to fight most of his battles for him and shoots babies.

[@ligtningdog6399]

I wouldn't even say it was to push Donte. Remove their names and all you have are generic "dead" parent, and morality grey/corrupted "ally". They're only called Sparda and Vergil, for the same reasons that Donte's DT gives him red jacket. Because "we wanted this to be more like original series"

[@Kiyosuki]

Oh my god! All this time I thought the "V" in front of the car in the intro was some snarky reference to DMC5. like "we gotta drive through this crap first before we get to 5 next year.". I COMPLETELY wiped the Vergil Mobile from my memory. I can't fucking believe it. Again.

[@punishedfist]

Kiyosuki it has V on the goddamn touch screen inside the car too lol

[@4thSurviver]

neVer forget

[@Kiyosuki]

@@punishedfist AAAUUUUUGGGHH MY HEAD

[@Samm815]

I’ve seen a lot of Safe For Me porn with the Vergil Mobile in it.

[@jor4114]

@@Samm815 That's not what SFM actually means, but I guess that works too.

[@SteelBallRun1890]

Ah yes, Vergil and his well known weapon, the Angelic Sniper Rifle used to erase demon babies and his sick ride, The Vergilmobile. I can't believe people like that other guy that acts like a weeb and has a nasally nerd voice, this is the *TRUE VERGIL.*

[@SkywalkerBatPrime]

Deletus that Fetus

[@PureMetalDragon]

Excuse me, but that gun is named The Abortionator

[@TheNocturnal1]

FUCK HONOR! -Angry Joe

[@TheStrxggler]

I know that is the biggest bait.... But I am still pissed by this scene.

[@0ovidio0]

GON SLINGOR DA!

[@CureOptimismForHumanity]

I can see why game journalists loved this game after witnessing the famous exploded womb scene.

[@dracocrusher]

I give this game 10 dead babies out of 10, would snipe again. If only those damn fanboys wouldn't be so obsessed with how this compares to the rest of the series, this game would be perfect because it has absolutely no glaring flaws at all, whatsoever, in any way, shape, or form that people would also hate completely. *insert gunshot* NOPE, NO WRITING PROBLEMS HERE AT ALL, ALL 100% PERFECTLY GREAT A-TIER ACTION GAME MATERIAL!!!

[@SixCubitMan]

"Here's your out of context tweet." Woolie, it's not as if that scene was better IN its proper context

[@tsarzamancorpdna]

Ah yes the judgement sniper rifle. A weapon to srupass metal gear

[@rustledentity5511]

Vergil "if they cry then they're gonna fry" Sparda (using that as a last name for this joke). Vergil "pound them in the womb, before they cause the Earth's doom" Sparda.

[@rickastley8655]

Vergil ‘half angel half man, pre-natal mayhem‘ Sparda

[@AzureKing963]

Love how they added in a scene in DE for Dante to yell at Vergil for killing Lilith, but have Dante care less about killing an unarmed pregnant woman and more about how it pissed off Mundus. What a goddamn hero.

[@nerdyvids1]

Well, Mundus did kill thousands of people in his anger. It's what I'd be more focused on.

[@AzureKing963]

@@nerdyvids1 That is the bigger problem, but if they were going to add in an scene for it, why did they just make Dante mad for both reasons? Especially since Dante stops trusting Vergil around this point anyways.

[@ligtningdog6399]

This wasn't just some random, normal lady. Donte just has a full battle with this pregnant woman and her "baby". He really had no reason to care about her death, so must as the deaths of innocent people.

[@AzureKing963]

@@ligtningdog6399 I can see him caring more for the city, but in the previous mission he does tell Lilith that he isn't going to kill her after beating her. While he probably was just telling her that so she wouldn't freak out, it came off to me that Dante didn't see her as a threat at that point or hate her.

[@baylaust]

If you look at the notes for when they released the Definitive Edition, they actually refer to this scene as a way to explain why Kat knew about the layout of Mundus' fortress. That's what they thought the problem that needed fixing was. Not Vergil assassinating a pregnant woman and killing her child before putting her out of her misery, but "How did Kat know how to navigate the tower." That's why that scene is so half-assed: Vergil defending his actions isn't supposed to be the point of it. Problem is, Vergil assassinating a pregnant woman is SO FUCKING OUT OF CHARACTER, that it's all we really care about right now.

[@tylergregoire1763]

Now it’s time for the legendary Japanese weapon...

[@TheAntonicKnight]

GUN!

[@rustledentity5511]

Speaking of Japanese weapon, I have wondered for a long time what Yamato's design means lore wise. The sword is presumably two thousand years old (or roughly so), and yet I'm pretty sure katanas didn't exist back then. Is that meant to imply that Japan got the idea for the katana from Sparda's yamato? Or was it something Sparda picked up from ancient Japan, and was presumably lost to time until they rediscovered it centuries later? Just curious what any of you think on the subject.

[@darrianweathington1923]

Tyler Gregoire United states military grade sniper rifle. It's so Japanese

[@PolarPhantom]

@@rustledentity5511 In terms of lore? Dunno. But in terms of symbolism, the name "Yamato" and its design is meant to convey the idea of order and tradition. This is in contrast to Dante's sword, Rebellion.

[@illburnmydread]

@@rustledentity5511 Maybe the name of the sword refers to the old Japanese tale of the eight headed serpent Orochi. There is a blade that coming forth of one of its tail, which at some point wielded by a man named Yamato Takeru to control wind. But the blade was not even thousand years old, it was just about 15 years old. And the idea of creating it was not coming from Sparda's time, it was from Hideki Kamiya's time in Capcom.

[@liquid_refreshment2791]

YEYEYEYEYE, ITS DA VIRGIL MOBILE DEBUT BOOOOOIIIIII

[@mr.platinum8388]

Hopefully, the Vergil Mobile will make a return in V like its' master....

[@theoneupwarrior94]

For those with captions, the Bird's all mobile

[@Gustavozxd13]

Vergil AV debut

[@luvhair255]

@@theoneupwarrior94 I don't know how KZbin gets captions so wrong, but boy is it hilarious.

[@MrFloom]

THE FETUS HAS BEEN YEETUSED!! *[NCSI MIAMI KIJU SCREECH ENGAGED]*

[@stephensmith7327]

hot fulff Kill Dat Fetus from Bojack Horseman starts playing

[@MrFloom]

Stephen Smith in the uncut version you can distinctly hear Vergil laughing like a penguin.

[@willg8035]

Angelic Weapon "GENERIC VIDEOGAME RIFLE".

[@alancalvillo6756]

You don't stand a chance against the mighty Devil fighter.

[@SuccubiPie]

BANG BANG BANG Pull my baby trigger!

[@Robosapien_]

Can we just get a gun sync using this one scene for that song?

[@MARPOLO13]

If Dante slashed and hacked at the demon baby and it didn't die, but Vergil just shot it and killed it along with it's mother, does that mean Vergil has demon bullet powers to go along with his Vergil DMR?

[@NeumaghAnon]

MARPOLO13 Vergil is a spawn camper

[@choklatecheeseburger]

I think the real explanation was that it's outside of limbo.

[@Comkill117]

It’s the power of the Angelic weapon: The Sniper Rifle.

[@raccoonofmotivation20]

Foolishness, fetus, foolishness

[@GoldLight73]

So if Dante's hair turns white in base Devil Trigger, does it turn spiky when he reaches Devil Trigger 2?

[@cyberninjazero5659]

And we'll call it Devil Trigger Super Devil Trigger

[@rikowolfin4984]

It would have if he ever got an 'ANGEL TRIGGER'

[@scottofcanes]

Don't forget about DEVIL INSTINCT

[@ShadowWolfRising]

@@scottofcanes Dammit, beat me to it.

[@JackOfen]

Do they turn into giant bugmen when they see a full moon?

[@Kcbookguru]

Alright I'll give props to mundus for being strong enough to drag every thing in a quarter of the city into limbo

[@M7S4I5L8V2A]

The Hellgate gives him infinite energy. He isn't all that without it.

[@JackOfen]

Will he be trying to spread his hellgate into the atmosphere, ensuring complete global saturation?

[@datonkallandor8687]

And props taken away for being unable to stop Kat exploring his secret lair in limbo, while she's tortured by demons, who literally live in limbo. How the fuck does anything about her exploring the tower make any fucking sense? The whole "she escapes trauma by escaping with her spirit into limbo" only makes sense when the trauma is being caused by humans.

[@jor4114]

@@datonkallandor8687 Here's the thing though. The trauma in her backstory was also caused by demons, not humans. So, is her astral projection just invisible when she's on Limbo?

[@DenimGiant]

So I had an idea on how to fix this game's story and make it interesting. When Sparda (a demon knight who turned against his own kind and married an angel, living with her on earth and fighting for humanity) and his wife Eva (Angel who similarly abandoned heaven to live on Earth) are found by the demon assassins, Eva grabs the boys and runs while Sparda stays to fight the demons, Dante gets separated and somehow escapes but is lost. Eva and Vergil are cornered by an assassin demon and Eva is slain but as she dies, Vergil absorbs her power, which causes his previously black hair to become white with power, but makes him easier to track because his power is detectable while Dante is below the radar but still strong. This explains why Vergil is in hiding. Sparda is captured and chained, and is kept in Mundus' personal chambers a trophy of his triumph and superiority. He's also possibly being used as a battery of power? (Depends on whether you want to paint Mundus as a leech of power, the cause for his world dominating power?). Then the game proceeds as normal. Dante is who he is and at the end when he kills Mundus, he frees his father who is emaciated but proud of his son, he dies in his son's arms, Dante absorbs his pwoer and his hair becomes white, and he absorbs his father as a Devil Arm, the sword Sparda. Instead we got this.

[@arbyw.1889]

His style was changed from Darkslayer to Wombslayer

[@cynical_perks8725]

Wait doesn’t Vergil really not like guns in the original series and that’s why he has summoned swords?

[@ccproductions5262]

cynical_ perks he calls them unworthy of a true warrior, and is implied to dislike any kind of ranged fighting.

[@williamharmon4039]

He sees guns as uncivilized and prefers fighting up close or with summoned swords.

[@ligtningdog6399]

You are think of Vergil, son of Sprada. This is Vino, son of Spank-a.

[@rustledentity5511]

In fairness, that wasn't added to his character until DMC3. In one of the DMC novels Vergil was seen using a shotgun. It's canon to his character now, but wasn't the original intention. Vergil is obviously a Sparda fanboy, so it makes sense that he's so obsessed with obtaining mastery over swords. It'd be hilarious if in a Sparda prequel we saw Sparda use ancient guns that existed thanks to advanced demon technology, just to show how little Vergil actually knows about his dad.

[@Comkill117]

RustledEntity But Sparda did have Luce and Ombra, granted I’m pretty sure he got those later.

[@austin9568AuraMasterDX]

*In this episode Wergil pulls the **-Devil-** trigger*

[@fluilow6829]

My headcanon is that Vergil just dyed his hair white so he can feel powerful all the time.

[@rikowolfin4984]

Nope, he had white hair as a kid. So this makes even less sense as it implies Vergil got his Demon powers from birth.

[@4thSurviver]

@@rikowolfin4984 Also he used to wear his fedora to hide the hair for some reason.

[@Comkill117]

What a loser.

[@TJK10]

Finally, the scenes we were waiting for. The rich lore of Vergil being pro choice versus Dante being pro life for demon babies.

[@trevingrayek791]

Pretty sure they're both pro-life

[@satorukuroshiro]

Pro-choice? You mean pro-lack-there-of-a-choice?

[@ScorpioTheScorpion1503]

It’s more like Vergil is pro his-choice.

[@trevingrayek791]

@@ScorpioTheScorpion1503 That's what pro-life means unfortunately.

[@4thSurviver]

@@trevingrayek791 Vergil would be pro abortion no choice.

[@naqamangelo785]

*DMC 2 LP HYPE*

[@VergilHiltsLT]

It's building up!

[@kaifreefall4450]

DMC5 ain't out til march, they got time to play ALL the devil may cry games ;)

[@Comkill117]

That’s a funny way of spelling Bayonetta...

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

Woah! Guys, did you see Vergil totally Judgement Cut that unborn baby? Now he’s MOTIVATED!

[@kruaser123]

Ok my problem isn't that Vergil killed the kid. Hell Dante was beating it to death 3 minutes ago. My problem is that Vergil would not shoot them, he would summon sword her through the gut, teleport beside her, then decapitate her with Yamato. Hell how did they die from these bullet shots anyway. Thats a normal ass gun as far as I know.

[@ccproductions5262]

kruaser123 I also had a problem with that. Didn't Dante unload like a few dozen bullets into both of them a few hours ago? Does the higher caliber really change that much?

[@phobos5323]

It's a squirrel semen bullet.

[@Conflict-ff5pi]

It raises a lot of questions. Are demons just normal people outside of Limbo? Could Vergil feasibly snipe Mundus if he found a high enough building nearby? The amount of holes in this world is staggering

[@CulturedDegenerate]

@@phobos5323 LMAO XD

[@darkpuppetlordful]

I mean virgin blasted that fetus with his abortion gun because he is still pretending to be human. Like Mundus doesn't know yet that he's also nephilim

[@tylerhind6709]

Fun Fact: Apparently the DMC4 pachinko game has more new cutscenes added than DMC4SE, and that's just cruel.

[@KnifeyMcEdge]

I'm surprised nobody said THE BABY.

[@AzureKing963]

Why do all the demons swear so much? It makes sense for Dante to be a vulgar punk, but do all the major demons have to talk like that, too?

[@Corrector1]

You expect demons to be polite?

[@ccproductions5262]

Corrector1 I mean maybe. Some of the old demons were. Agni and rudra were just kind of idiots, Griffon was cool.

[@AzureKing963]

@@Corrector1 Can you give an example of demons being crass outside of this game? Not trying to be rude, but I'm trying to think of a crass demon with someone else right now and can't think of one. Aren't demons usually polite, since they are trying to entice you or are so powerful that they are above that attitude? Edit:Found one.The Violater from Spawn

[@darkpuppetlordful]

@@Corrector1 I mean when they put on airs of sophistication like Mundus does. Yes

[@Chaos2Frozen]

@@Corrector1 ...Yes? Why not? At least it might give some of them a different personality.

[@Corrector1]

29:03 Truly, the biggest travesty in this game is having Dante and Vergil say "Bingo" instead of "Jackpot".

[@Comkill117]

Corrector1 this game doesn’t deserve “Jackpot!” It’s like DMC2.

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

YEAH, THE GREATEST AND MOST HONORABLE DEVIL ARM OF ALL!

[@DynomitePunch]

you know your mundus sucks when the corporate bad guy from two is a better villain XD

[@BoulderPunchPodcast1]

Fuck you're right and I cn't even remember his name

[@Nightxx9199]

@@BoulderPunchPodcast1 I was going to say his name, but then I realized that I don't actually remember it

[@Jazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

Arius. I remember him well.

[@Samm815]

“I am your father” Dun Da Duuuuun~!

[@Nightxx9199]

@@Jazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I completely blanked on his name, and I even completed 2 lol

[@asdtgh8895]

30:11 That Dreamrunner back-stepped straight into those lasers. "Coolest enemy", they say

[@SHHHonlydreamsnow]

I personally find killing a fetus and subsequently it's mother during a hostage exchange for a woman you were fine with leaving to die an admirable trait for the leader of the group that's suppose to be the good guys and save humanity and shit.

[@bryanadkins6776]

You know, I think I've finally figured out what pisses me off the most about this game. The fact that its themes and purpose are so antithetical to one another. The game has an obvious anti-capitalist bent to its story (what with the demon king controlling the world through debt) but the whole reason this game exists is because Devil May Cry 4 (in spite of being the best selling entry in the series) didn't pull CoD numbers. This game rails against corporate greed while owing its entire existence to a corporation's greed not being satisfied!

[@darkmaster7411]

Mundus yeetus your fetus is now deletus.

[@TheLunarLegend]

Okay here's something I don't get, Katt said don't get off on floor 105 get off on floor 106. Donte got off on 105. Her next instructions were to go up 1 floor, to 107, but cause Donte got off early he's on 106. So he's an entire floor behind on her instructions and it doesn't change anything?

[@darkbats20]

3:21 Mm, watcha say? Mm, that you only meant well? Well, of course you did Mmm, whatcha say? Mmm, that it's all for the be- 3:34 Mm, watcha say? Mm, that you only meant well?

[@LDsprite]

You know to be honest I'm down with the Vergilmobile. That's the kind of schlock I want from this series. I want it to return in 5. I want there to be a Vergil boss fight but instead of a fight it's just a car chase between the Vergilmobile and the DMC van.

[@budafuka]

I'm down for Dante to have a D emblazoned on his bike. But Vergil is absolutely not the type of character to do that shit.

[@Copperhell144]

Vergil can own a limousine-like stylish vehicle. But yeah, no giant V's anywhere, thank you. Unless it returns as a Vmobile for the new character?

[@TheStrxggler]

Welp. Its time. The worst character assassination in the game. Vergin couldn't be possibly more unlike Vergil after this. I can't believe there are people who like him as a character in this game.

[@Graysett]

I like the double meaning there, well played.

[@MaddogSamurEye]

All in a metaphorical and literal use of the word.

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

DarkKnightGrave wait there actually exists people who like his character? Why? Even without comparisons he’s a shit character.

[@SpankSandwitch99]

To be fair, it's slim pickings. Dante, Kat, Vergil, and Phineas. For the 'good' guys at least

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

DarkKnightGrave you know what’s the worst part also? Not just what he did, but for the fact they made a scene trying to JUSTIFY what he did in the definitive edition, WHAT THE FUCKING HOLY HELL!

[@goodvillain1015]

Welcome back to this abortion of a DMC game. And speaking of abortion...

[@brian.jrmontoya3227]

Goodvillain 101 ooof

[@Dasaltwarrior]

When Dante first tells Vergil of Lilith's pregnancy and his eyes light up, I just imagine Vergil's in his head going "This may be fun"

[@caseywood36]

abortion happens less than a year reminds me of a certain DMC game that was made less than a year

[@Raging_Asura]

Goodvillain 101 this is not DMC4 fam

[@caseywood36]

@@Raging_Asura hey I bashed DMC 4 first GET IN LINE

[@obblivionkr]

15:35 you guys still got Bayonetta, Dante’s inferno, God of War 1-3...

[@JackOfen]

And DMC 2

[@budafuka]

No DMC2. This game is already enough of a slog.

[@Comkill117]

You’d have to give DMC2 the Minecraft story mode treatment if you’re going to play that game.

[@zedre7633]

_And we thought it was gonna take us until March to beat all the DMC games._ You didn't beat all of them yet, buddies.

[@kaifreefall4450]

Yup, still waiting on the devil may cry 2 return

[@the333gamer333]

Let me remind you that Mr. 50. cal coat hanger virgin mobile dude over here, in the original series (not reboot) found guns to be so ugly and unappealing that he literally conjures crystal magic swords and chucks them at people in order to attack from range

[@ccproductions5262]

So how come Dante can do all this shit to the real world to save Vergil, but he can't do any of this to slow down the SWAT teams? Is it cause Kat had to be in Limbo? Couldn't we have just dragged her into Limbo to get out then?

[@YourFavoriteDakimakura]

Because Dante isn't in Limbo for that mission I guess? Like Mundus probably lost control of his powers, namely the one that allows him to drag Dante into Limbo, and the line between it and the real world got a bit blurred so the two could interact with each other, which is why the city gets destroyed for real. Kinda like how killing Mundus at the end of the game kind of just gets rid of Limbo altogether and demons can just waltz into the real world.

[@ultraspinalki11]

2:44 *"There's something about being a parent that it doesn't matter which side you're on."* But see the problem here is that Lilith made it VERY CLEAR earlier that she doesn't care about the baby she's carrying, stating "I'm nothing to Mundus without this BRAT", therefore there is no reason for me to feel bad for her despite Lilith being a parent.

[@Arro3]

Who would win? A 4000 year old demon god? or One pizza boi?

[@satorukuroshiro]

Depends, does that pizza boy have a cocky attitude and an obsession with fun, or is that pizza boy a goth, alcoholic, smoker, and sex offender?

[@gruknarorcishwar-yerhereto8489]

Or what if, one 4Chan Anon?

[@Chadius]

Sniper Rifle wins, baby

[@thestudent09]

About the time slow being localized to Dante. In limbo pretty much every character has shown the ability to "influence" the world around them. Dante's DT is pretty much a repackaged quicksilver so his domain of influence may more closely related to time. Thats my best guess.

[@frankjournal340]

15:48 well pat don't forget that you still have to do dmc 2. But also, you could do the vergil missions for dmc3 and 4 in lead up to 5

[@Comkill117]

The biggest thing that makes the original Mundus and breaks this Mundus is their portrayal. In DMC1 Mundus was just a generic demon king sure, but the way he was framed gave you the sense that he was a huge threat. All the demons talk about how despite how powerful Dante is he’s nothing compared to Mundus, to give a specific example just look at anytime Dante and Griffon interact. On top of that the first room of the castle shows a giant statue of Mundus that disappeared when you returned and certain camera angels almost felt like you were seeing Dante from the emperor of darkness’ perspective. Finally there’s the matter of what Mundus himself does in the game. He orders his demons who follow him to a T and even kills Griffon himself for being too weak and unworthy to serve him. When you finally got to Mundus he was this massive angelic statue in a holy cathedral, and he than summons himself and Dante to a realm where they would fight, and he was a very challenging boss. Basically Mundus in DMC1 was portrayed as being a powerful threat that you need to be at your best to even hope to take on. In DmC Mundus is portrayed as being the big bad of the game but we have too many scenes of him losing his cool when his minions fail. He’s set up as a major threat but every scene shows him as being nothing more than an edgy businessman with the temperament of the original Cobra Commander. His forms in the game are essentially businessman and blob, none of which present him as being anything that would be even remotely powerful as the final boss, and his actual boss fight is so easy you’d be forgiven for thinking he was about to reveal that there’s still a few more hours of game time to deal with the real threat. He’s the villain of a children’s cartoon but played straight and it only serves to make him seem like one of the least threatening villains ever.

[@TheKenny2113]

"Dreamrunners are not fun to fight, because they are hard" 30:10 the hardest of fights right there

[@Grubbo]

y'know, the slow motion makes more sense if you say that Dante devil triggers out of desperation to save his friends...

[@PerfectBrom]

Last time I was this early to a video, Sparda had awakened to justice

[@Comkill117]

Ultimate Bromaeda he never awakened to justice, no no. He *“WOKE UP TO JUSTICE.”* It sounds cooler the dumber it’s written.

[@PerfectBrom]

@@Comkill117 Okay yeah that does sound way cooler, you're right

[@posterboy0007]

The last time I was this early Lilith had a stomach.

[@RandoChrisYT]

#VergilReallyDidNothingWrongGuys

[@mr.platinum8388]

#HisSwordCouldntEvenSliceUpASandwich

[@Multi-Tech]

So....... Mundus couldn't of just you know.... Have another child with another demon women? Like, you've lived for thousands of years, I'm sure you could wait an extra 9 months........

[@BoulderPunchPodcast1]

Because plot reasons. Now shut up and watch Virgin kill a demon fetus

[@austin9568AuraMasterDX]

@@BoulderPunchPodcast1 That fetus taunted Virgin with it's Style meter

[@BoulderPunchPodcast1]

@@austin9568AuraMasterDX He came at him with a knife, he had no choice

[@coldfrost3]

I mean him and Sparda are bug people it might take longer

[@eusouocarameuirmao]

You're right, parents shouldnt be upset at the loss of their child, they can just make another one

[@ZenobyGoat]

I think in the original version, the shot of Lilith looking at her stomach was further away, so you could see through the whole damn....thing.

[@cillbipher2613]

Yeetus Deletus the Funky Demonic Fetus Featuring Norman Reedus

[@ben-manvibing162]

Will tonight be the fetus deletus?

[@protossoverlord8345]

Ah yes the ancient angel sniper rifle, Vergin's signature weapon.

[@findthereal12]

I'm pretty sure the game says Vergil doesn't do anything because Mundus thinks Dante is the only Nephilim. Dante has also been fighting his whole life while Vergil got adopted by some rich family and didn't have to do anything. Dante is also an idiot because he didn't go to school. He ran away from the orphanage.

[@eachasteriod1334]

Dire Miralis it’s still dumb how mundus can’t tell that two people with the same face are twins. After Vergil’s face was released on the news he had no reason to keep hiding his identity other than the writers making mundus unreasonably stupid.

[@GrimmsKey]

27:16 "Why does it take so many?" Because you didn't buy Shredder Pat.

[@Gamerlife-xv5fs]

Love how the dreamrunner jumps back and gets killed at the end and neither of them say anything about it.

[@elmerserrano3705]

March huh? Looks like dmc2 is back on the menu boys!

[@Seirvox]

30:10 There's something really cathartic about one of the strongest enemies in the game getting casually punted into a laser grid.

[@FxCalibur]

Would've bought this game on sale if Vergil used the sniper in the final fight.

[@auringtail]

3:43 *gunfire whizzing past her* This is a perfect place for me to stand idle.

[@chrisossu2070]

How many abortion jokes can you make in the frozen time?

[@juniorjunior5884]

More than you think, less than you hope.

[@JTGallant]

The Dreamrunner dodging into the lasers at the end was awesome, I wish they noticed that.

[@Akay4444444444444444]

Anyone notice at 30:10 how the coolest enemy in the game backed up into an environment kill?

[@jman2856]

03:22 OH NO!!!!!! THE RACE WAR STARTS NOOOOOOWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@CRAZEH247]

6:40 At this point, Vergil doesn't WANT to show himself. Vergil in the whole car chase sequence is in the real world. Dante keeps getting pulled into Limbo every time demons show up nearby. That's what happens to him all the time. The game literally started with this explanation. Everytime he kills the petty demons he gets back out of limbo, which is when everything is at normal speed. It's happened quite a lot in limbo where shit is floating around and not moving or moving (or even simply EXISTING) unnaturally. The time stop thing is the least confusing of them. They need to lure Mundus away from his office... because there's a giant portal right next to him to Hell which he gets his power from. Vergil is using Dante's presence as a SOS to piss off Mundus. It's also why he shot the babby because he's willing to sacrifice as many people as needed to defeat Mundus. The logic is sound, but nobody wants to look at it or even remember it. Why am I the one trying to defend the story of this game which I don't really like either... wtf.

[@hibarikyoya854]

Except by this point in the game Vergil's face was on the news and Mundus wiped both his and Dante's memories so how does Mundus not know about Vergil's existence?

[@CRAZEH247]

@@hibarikyoya854 Mundus didn't wipe their memories. Their memories were wiped before that so they wouldn't accidentally reveal themselves as children. They need time to grow into full nepheline so they were hidden away.

[@hibarikyoya854]

@@CRAZEH247 oh shit you're right I totally forgot that my bad. But the problem of Mundus having Vergil's picture and somehow not seeing he is identical to Dante still remains. Him sneaking around so he doesn't get dragged into limbo makes sense cause he won't have access to the computers the problem is the whole game they show him incapable of combat even in scenarios were it would have been safe to use his powers but in the end he is on par with Dante.

[@CRAZEH247]

@@hibarikyoya854 oh don't get me wrong there's plenty of issues with the story. The only way I can defend not seeing the pictures is that he only went after Eva himself. The rest was his demon army to destroy their home. Dante found the family picture by chance if I recall and he kinda stumbles upon it. I imagine if Mundus lost his shit when he found out that Sparda being a demon brother went and married an angel then just went on a rampage of destruction of whoever his army could find in the mansion. We already saw him lose his shit and destroy the whole city without thinking twice. So it could be plausible. I think I remember reading somewhere about how Dante was thrown into a shithole to help him grow stronger, because he was the softer of the brothers. Whilst Vergil showed he was already good with using his Nephilim powers so he went to a human family to grow a heart. I can't remember where I read about this though.

[@hibarikyoya854]

@@CRAZEH247 I don't know about any of that might have been in a novel like according to someone their was one showing Vergil in love with Kat but then he erased that specific memory so who knows at this point

[@MrZoichi]

Vergin: "I call this operation 'Mission Abort'. What do you think, Dante?" Donte: "Why that name?" Vergin: "No reason." [Totally not creepy, sinister grin]

[@Renegadebane]

I hate to insert some kind of logic to make the time slow make sense, but what if it's Vergil using his DT? Donte slows time around him and suspend enemies in mid air, Vergil could be popping DT and slowing local time for the car while he waits for Donte to move the obstacles.

[@InugamiTheHound]

did Pat forget about the the move that turns dante into a tornado with the glavies?

[@jasonhill8696]

Planned parenthood ain’t got shit on Vergil

[@ignaeon]

"why would there be a floor that's completely unnoccupied" because corporate lol

[@mid90sshinigami]

Oh no the evil demon with a disgusting fetus monster is dead, what a villian you are Vergil.

[@kaizerdeath12]

The weapon that sealed the connection between the Human and Demon world...Vergil's Sniper.

[@WandererRedux]

Stupid thing 12: the absurdity of the hostage trade/getaway segment. Forgetting for a moment the sheer stupidity of Vergil's abortinator rifle and custom Vergil mobile car, it is ridiculous that the SWAT team didn't manage to kill Kat in that crossfire. Limbo breaking its established rules of only warping its own space and slowing time in potions of it because -the plot demands tension- Mundus got angry enough to take things seriously is even more insulting, as it's a contrived action-setpiece that's only there to forcefully ramp up tension. Worst level in the game IMO.

[@BootlegSkeleton]

30:12 So, are we not even going to acknowledge the Dreamrunner jumping backwards into the lasers and eating shit in the middle of the fight?

[@michaellaverty7349]

I'm glad Ninja Theory saved us by writing strong female characters. Thank you Tameem. Also are you telling me that in the original game, they go straight from abortion rifle getaway to "okay we're infiltrating the tower yeh!"? How fucking tone deaf and awful can a team be?

[@mrbonesaw90]

So i love how at 30:11 Pat springboards the Dreamrunner into the lasers to finish it off and they dont realize how hype that looked.

[@movingparts6270]

You know, I'm starting to think *this game isn't very good.*

[@caseywood36]

its still a good and fun game though only when you compeer it to the OG series is when it feels silly

[@thehanukkandor590]

Moving Parts Gaming yeah it's pretty bad

[@Comkill117]

The gameplay is super fun, and I hope that that part of it gets a sequel (hopefully in the form of its own independent series not part of DMC) but the rest of the game boarders between average at best and bad.

[@caseywood36]

@@Comkill117 yea all we can hope is that ninja theory release a game like dmc but with the a good story like all of there other games

[@trickster721]

Parts of it are good. If only Vergil could have sniped the lead writer when he was still a demon fetus. So many have suffered. BUT THAT'S MY CROSS TO BEAR. YOU KNOW LIKE WITH JESUS

[@dracocrusher]

"While they tortured me, I escaped my body. That's how I survived." OH GOOD TO KNOW, KAT! Great to hear that you didn't even have the force of will to fight through the pain and you had to cheat their torture just to get by! So great to know the only moment of strength you've showed so far was just your magic hax working their thing. SUCH A STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER, GUYS!!!

[@rporche2600]

Oh god there it is the Vergil Mobile gtfo XD

[@BarskeMannen]

The reason Vergil doesn't get out of his car and do all kinds of demonic flippy shit is because they make a huge deal about how the way they're going to beat Mundus is through Vergil's nephilim powers and what have you being a big secret. It's why they send Dante, a known quantity for everyone involved, to do all the dirty work on missions as well. It's not 100% air tight, but that's the explanation.

[@TheJadedJames]

Vergil was pretty clear about that, and it was stated again shortly before the exchange. Mundus is not aware that Vergil is also a Son of Sparda. And he wanted to keep that secret until the last possible moment so that Mundus won't be prepared to fight both brothers