Dune: Part Two REVIEW - A Treasure in the TRASH

Dune: Part Two Movie Review - Spoiler Free
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[@sxztube]

The depiction of Geidi Prime was a monumental triumph of cinematography. The greyscale was otherworldly, spooky and alien, saved massively on set design costs, and adeptly sent the message that Harkonnen culture is rigidly black and white

[@Johnlindsey289]

A tribute to Jodowskys dune

[@ArrakisHeir88]

Cool, so why don't Jessica and Paul look like that

[@BVargas78]

@@ArrakisHeir88 I know it's something that Villeneuve added but Harkonnens only look like that when out in the strange sunlight of Giedi Prime. Once they are indoors they look more normal (other than the shaving their hair and eyebrows which is also a Villeneuve thing). And characters like Beast Rabban who have been on Arrakis for a while in the second film have a slightly more tanned complexion in the second film compared to in the first film.

[@DarksideGmss0513]

I personally don't like this depiction of what the Harkkones look like. In the book they are described as grotesque looking and nasty. Here they seem way to clean

[@ArrakisHeir88]

@@BVargas78 so it's literally a contrivance

[@stephenp4563]

"An alien woman in an alien world - she just comes off as Californian." Sounds like she nailed it.

[@clauaome25]

🤣🤣🤣

[@deanfirnatine7814]

Damn you I was typing the same observation when I saw your post.

[@strtupg]

She and chalamet sound like they’re doing a play in high school. I haven’t seen an honest review on this film. Only one who did was razor fist on the first one. Everyone else is a shill from the sound of it.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

@@strtupg people are entranced by the beautiful cinematography

[@bruh_hahaha]

yes, “woman” 🤣

[@ummmyeah5155]

Only 190 mill??? Bro, some garbage movies have higher budgets. Good management there.

[@abelingaw5070]

Yeah, like the previous MCU movies and tv shows. Not to mention ROP that has millions per episode, but still sucked.

[@MrNoucfeanor]

​@@abelingaw5070RoP doesn't exist, it was never made and shall never be mentioned... Feck!

[@cSoZen]

Didn’t completely hate Chani, but it’s just weird that she would rather her people stay oppressed, instead of rallying behind the one person who brought all her people together. Like all she does is cry about the prophecy but doesn’t offer any solutions.

[@JohnJaneson2449]

😮 I didn't think that way until you mentioned it lol. Yes wtf Chani not happy his people overthrow the oppressors.

[@Swindel67]

Paul isn't supposed to be the hero. She can see this.

[@cSoZen]

@@Swindel67 yea I understand that even Denis spelled it out, my issue is sure “Paul isn’t suppose to be the hero”, but what’s Chani solution other than complaining? He did in 6 months what the fremen couldn’t in 80 years, and united them. Plus the golden path completely disproves the Paul isn’t the hero no matter how much they try to argue it. All of humanity > 61 billion.

[@johnriley8713]

Zendaya's only expression the whole movie was a "girlfriend-mad-at-you-about-something" face.

[@andycamp4890]

An accurate portrayal of what a girlfriend normally looks like.

[@scifiwriter98]

Not easy for someone born male to pull off.

[@skywatcheradept]

​@@andycamp4890 real girlfriends don't look like that. they have much more versatile expressions than Zendaya in the movie. The was a very funny jealousy mechanic in Dune2 between the love (Chani) and the Mother (Jessica) competing for Paul. This was true hate & rivalry under the guise of fighting for their idealogies (Fremen patriotism vs. Bene Gesserit power/religion).

[@menofculture108]

Zendaya is cringe 😒

[@agpmjm]

LMAO. This comment had me weeping with laughter. Thank you !

[@kevinquinn7645]

You have to respect Austin Butler for having the balls to take up Sting's codpiece as Feyd-Rautha.

[@jayhova3926]

Figuratively and literally

[@mikegarcia8004]

I love how he altered his voice to resemble Stellans as if it were an accent related to his family line. He’s a good actor.

[@strikeforcealpha9343]

He took balls deep literal hahahahaha

[@billabonggolkpr]

I love that..... Outstanding

[@thebatman4279]

He was the only decent aspect of the film.

[@handsomeDRAC]

The visuals in this movie are so natural you don't even think your looking at cgi but rather something alien that was photographed on camera and that's how cgi should look in live action and not like a cartoon.

[@tarutso]

*sighs* what are you talking about. Have you seen actual practical effects works like Mad Max Fury Road or Top Gun Maverick? My eyes glazed over half the time coz it's just so CGI

[@handsomeDRAC]

@tarutso sighs. What are you talking about? I'm talking about cgi, NOT practical effects. I know practical is always best, but when cgi is done right, it looks just as good.

[@tarutso]

@@handsomeDRAC I donno what u talking about. The CGI looks CGI. The bits that aren’t CGI look great like those floating dudes near the beginning. Now if those are CGI then I agree w u lol

[@handsomeDRAC]

@@tarutso yes

[@scotttimbrell8632]

You do realise that the majority of sets, clothing, VFX, supporting characters are all CGI right? Like the actors are literally in a small room surrounded by large green walls majority of the time. The best example I can give is the New York set in Avengers, that entire city was CGI and only enhances the scenes.@@tarutso

[@MaximumWarp2099]

I’m not a fan of Zendaya. She’s just not a great actress. Serviceable, yes. Decent, maybe. But not great. When I told my brother she was cast as Chani he replied by saying “I don’t know what a Zendaya is.” Pretty much sums it up right there.

[@Isaac_5.56x45]

Zendaya is extremely overrated.

[@GIBBO4182]

By who? I'm not sure anyone actually rates her...nevermind overrating her! 😂

[@rommelbengali]

She's a fad imo.

[@kopper87]

saying that Zendaya is overrated is overrated, nice try tho

[@rommelbengali]

BASED! Really hated her ever since Spider-man homecoming.

[@quickman2663]

I doubt that softcore p tennis movie she's in will do well at the box office either.

[@Invalidcookie-bv4cx]

Movies aren't going to get better for years.. because all the trash they green lit are coming up.

[@bartsullivan4866]

yep sequels more sequels more superhero BS. So when something original comes along your happy to see it.

[@Agaetis181]

2023 had some really great films, especially for horror fans. stop looking for capeshit

[@Gakusangi]

Not to mention it's an industry that's run by activists that don't care about the industry's health and sustainability, headed by executives more concerned with saving face.

[@zzygyy]

100 yrs of cinema. Can always find gold in the vault.

[@bartsullivan4866]

@@Agaetis181 Not looking for capeshit at all sick of seeing capeshit movies advertising promoted and on so many more screens rather than quality films. I did see Oppenheimer, The Holdovers, and American Fiction which were all pretty decent really enjoyed Grand Turismo and AIR. Which horror films did you see that you would recommend? My son keeps bugging me about "5 Nights at Freddy's. Outside of Dune 2 I didn't see a lot of the 2024 slate that I really wanted to see in the theater

[@The1stLumiens]

Big things missing from the books: Paul and Chani lose a child to an assassination attempt by one of the Houses/noble families. Paul's three year old sister is considered as an abomination - as is Paul. The movies completely did away with the 'weirding way' too. However, none of these mattered as much as the wooden acting from Zendaya :(.

[@WetBlanket03]

And they rid everything relating to mentats, people who were engineered/trained to be human supercomputers. Dude to the imperial law banning machines made in the image of man. Presumably due to near apocalyptic consequences in the past. To me it seems like producers were scared to take a stab at AI which are at the center of many multi billion dollar industries today.

[@cha0tix46]

Paul being an abomination is in the movie the reverend mother calls him an abomination at the end of the movie after he uses the voice on her she says it kind of quietly but she audibly calls him “abomination”

[@deadsoon]

​@@cha0tix46 I think that was a nod to Alia, and also the fact that he's a male using the Voice, something only women are taught.

[@mattlewis6833]

I have to agree on these points. The weirding way missing was a disappointment but it also made the 80’s film a cheese fest.

[@samuelgeaney7556]

Zendaya was fine in this film, didn't think her acting was bad at all. This is coming from someone who isn't even a fan of Zendaya just giving credit to a decent performance.

[@chrismartin9561]

The ending he's referring to is a cringy girl boss scene that was thrown in at the last moment for no apparent reason, in an almost "F U, we got the last word in", way.

[@jimmycrackkorn1596]

Zendaya plays Zendaya just like Michelle Rodriguez always plays Michelle Rodriguez.

[@jackpackage4278]

Most actors play the same type of character in everything. Thats why actors like Leo or Denzel are such legends.

[@kool4209]

Just like Ryan Ren

[@ophanimangel3143]

@@jackpackage4278 But these sort of actors belong in B and C grade fluff movies not something like Dune. I’ve seen Zendaya in Euphoria and Spiderman and she’s just not convincing in her roles.

[@n4ughty_knight]

Brie always plays Brie

[@whitepaint7870]

You could say that about most famous actors, like dwayne johnson or vin diesel

[@shaneblair-hicks4975]

Not a false prophesy, but it wasnt supposed to be Paul that was to fulfill it. The breeding program the witches had in place was thrown off when Jessica had a boy to please duke leto.

[@scott8448]

Don’t see how their “breeding program” would work though, they wanted to mix all the peoples bloodlines so humanity wouldn’t stagnate but the final would be harkonen (Rebecca), atreides (Paul but a girl), harkonen (fade)again making a significantly inbred child to be the kwizats haderac.

[@user-op7ib4ye6v]

@@scott8448Thats because the gene sequences and gene lines mix, not two people, not even two people who are having sex. You are not a direct copy of your mom and dad genes, half - half like. Bene Gesserit dont bread people together, they wave gene lines, on a much finer scale. Who is Rebecca? :D XD ... Jessica is only half Harkonen but she is also not a copy of somebody. That also means Paul is quarter Harkonen. At best. Not completely, like movie overacts it.

[@MrLardobutt]

it is a false prophesy, it was planted there...the fact that Paul had a penis means nothing, the prophesy was just meant as a means of control

[@jerryhorton5708]

@@user-op7ib4ye6vif memory serves correctly, the popular theory was that Jessica Atreides was the daughter of Helen Gaius Mohiam and Vladimir Harkonnen. Baron Vladimir was actually homosexual.

[@robertkarp2070]

@@user-op7ib4ye6v We don't know if she's only half. All we know about is who her father is, never talk about who her mother was.

[@OldGeezerGaming337]

Hollywood, quite trying to make Zendaya a thing. She not a good enough actress.

[@drinkwater9891]

and quit trying to force dune and other waste of space boring movies

[@patrick7142]

Trying to make her a thing? As if she is an upcoming actress. Lol. Keep deceiving yourself. Zendaya is already a megastar actress. She was the highest paid actress in Hollywood two years ago, she has been in several top franchises and she is super popular all around the globe. So yeah, she is already a big deal.

[@drinkwater9891]

@@patrick7142 true, but this is a boomer and older channel

[@OldGeezerGaming337]

@@patrick7142 Nope she is not a thing and never will be. There are plenty of C-Tier actresses that make millions. Second, she is just a DEI hire as well.

[@dennisduncan7561]

​@@drinkwater9891It's not boring and no ones forcing it on you. You just have bunk taste.

[@saintricardo8746]

Just saw it today on IMAX. Let me say, every time something big is happening on screen, I can feel my body and the chair I'm sitting on shake, literally shake. The sound design is stellar. And The scene on Geidi prime was GENIUS

[@JorisVDC]

Well, to me it felt too much like Bladerunner 2048, it used the same effect to instill awe. The novelty has worn off and it feels overused in this part two. I still like it, but it's sad there is nothing unique about it. Like in Star Wars, there are different themes, linked to characters, yet there is an overal recognizable Star Wars 'sound'.

[@MrBenfranz]

Fun Fact: When Jodorowsky assayed to mount a production of Dune in the mid 70's, he had hired H.R. Giger to design the Harkonnen and their home world.

[@bc-cu4on]

Appropriately.

[@knightsofrreee7961]

Another fun fact is that some of Giger's designs for Dune got recycled in Prometheus, or as it's known in my house ''the film that shall not be named'' or ''the P-word film'' . The wife is a big Alien fan and hates it.

[@badlaamaurukehu]

​@@knightsofrreee7961She's right.

[@neveser]

Been meaning to watch that documentary. Would love to have seen his vision realized.

[@Palaecro]

@@knightsofrreee7961 haha, I can definitely understand that.

[@McSwiggle]

I think the sound design in this movie is among the best I've heard in a long time. Truly a movie that needs to be experienced in theaters.

[@1fairhurst]

yep sound indeed i agree

[@timefree4875]

Watch zone of interest then tell me that but this movie is 2nd best

[@SixStringHarmonies]

But Hans Zimmer is a dirty socialist. How can you like his vision?

[@Samherbe954]

I brought high definition earplugs and im so glad i did. Without them in I would have had hearing loss. I loved how it sounded but don’t get why it has to be so loud.

[@roguewasbanned4746]

Yeah I’m going back for a second viewing

[@TutosViolet]

Zendaya can't act. She always brings any project down with her bad acting.

[@jbiz979]

Your description of Zendaya’s acting is spot on! 😂 I described it as Los Angelos but Californian is close enough

[@mileswiltse4535]

So this is what willy wonka was doing while his factory was shut down.

[@spirz4557]

*Breaking News :* Due to a sudden decrease in sales, Willy Wonka shuts his factory down and switches to a more aggressive tactic.

[@yahya_elistinsary]

Getting high on spice melange... understandable how he got the "wonka"

[@5T3PH3N100]

Zendaya just plays Zendaya in every movie. Like a Cara Delevingne that seems to blandly fail upward

[@myrhev]

They also made her character have way more to it than it should have.

[@armandoalvarez5910]

Zendaya is like The Rock, Ryan Reynolds or Keanu Reeves, but with 0% charm or screen presence. I still can't figure out why is she as popular as she is. She has neither the talent nor the charisma to compensate the lack of range like the actors i mentioned.

[@916hayabusa]

another plank of wood, like Kira knightly, ok to look at but don’t expect anything above phoning it in.

[@snactimusmaximus]

That dude who played bilbo in the movies.

[@little_dandelion]

@@916hayabusaTrans privilege and gr00mers' pet.

[@aimanmarzuqi4804]

The only complain I have for this movie is that we didn't get more Feyd-Rautha scenes. I really love how Villeneuve portrayed Feyd in his films. He really showed why Feyd was Paul's greatest rival in the movie. This version of Feyd is more powerful because he actually is a very capable warrior unlike the book and previous adaptation versions who likes to use trickery to win his fights. Austin Butler's version of Feyd also has none of the reckless and impulsive nature of the book version. He never tried to assasinate his uncle like the book version.

[@juletaurus]

He did say, "I should". Surely, time was an issue.

[@CiaoColeG]

No, Austin's Feyd was impulsive too. He casually slit that one advisor's throat so his cannibal girl "darlings" would have a snack on the trip.

[@blacyc]

I havent recognized any of the characters in the movie

[@thewormwhoisgod9886]

Javier Bardem and Austin Butler absolutely crushed it. TC also definitely lived up to the lead role, and he will be excellent in the next

[@hashtagfilm]

I think when people compare it to LOTR they're not saying it's as good as them, I think the comparison is that they're 2 grand franchises, with well developed world's and characters, that will stand the test of time.

[@kebabkev]

More than 20 years later, the fact that it is still so hard to top LOTR is crazy

[@kingofhits6164]

Exactly. I think this Dune trilogy will be what LOTR is for fantasy movies, but for sci-fi.

[@palahnuk1]

Genre is def different. But what Paul Jackson accomplished is really unreachable ... Dune 2 is wonderful - but the depth of the LOTR is wider and the rhythm and pace is much better than Dune 1.

[@hashtagfilm]

@@palahnuk1 Yeah absolutely. No question. I just think Dune has the ability to garner a fan base as dedicated as LOTR that will love it forever 😊

[@eldiboblo923]

meh

[@danielfatfingahs5649]

why does the Sci Fi Dune show in the year 2000 get no reference!!!!! REVIEW IT SIR!

[@TruthWiz]

There's a director's cut of that miniseries as well, that's even better than the standard cut. Also the Spicediver cut of the Lynch films that he mentioned is far superior to the theatrical cut. I LOVE the Children of Dune Sci-Fi channel miniseries. It's my favorite.

[@Axvil]

They made Chani either too stupid to understand what was going on, or too much of a narcissi to care.

[@floridamann1109]

Butler really is becoming a mega star, hope he continues to absolutely kill it. Couldn't care less about Florence "iPhone face" Pugh or Zendaya.

[@Blisterdude123]

I quite like Florence Pugh. She's been in some bunk, but she's been in some decent stuff too. Zendaya I struggle to understand what the deal is, but I can at least point to a few of Pugh's performances and say 'she's a competent actor who has potential to be better'.

[@harbl99]

Informed beauties both. (We're told it's so, in the face of the evidence of our own eyes)

[@Palaecro]

Yeah hiring Zendaya for acting is like Nicholas Cage minus the talent. She was the only thing about the first movie I didn't like. It's like oh look it's Zendaya, pulls you out of it.

[@bradleyj.fortner2203]

Zendaya's pretty. But, I don't think she's sexy. No curves. She looks like puberty skipped her. I don't think Pugh rates any higher than a 5 or 6 either. I wouldn't call her ugly. But, I wouldn't call her hot. She's a "Plain Jane".

[@ophanimangel3143]

@@PalaecroExactly. Never liked her in that movie. She ruined what to me was nearly great movie experience. She belongs in some low tier Netflix material not a high quality literary sci fi epic like Dune.

[@SereneBobcat]

I really wish they would release longer cuts of both these movies for home video, like the good old days.

[@rondz1234]

LONGER CUTS??? THIS WAS 2:45 YOU WANT A 5 HOUR MOVIE????

[@blubblurb]

@@rondz1234 Yes

[@TitoVespasianus]

I want the 6h version of part 1 and the uncut version of part 2.

[@beejcarson]

They''ll roll something out at the 5th or 10th aniversary most likely.

[@senpainoticeme9675]

@@rondz1234people absolutely love the extended versions of LOTR, what seems the problem here?

[@martinsoukup562]

No, the biggest change was focusing on Chani too much and changing her character.

[@rstarr14]

this will not be remembered in 5 years. The fact that Gary tried to read it and simply couldn't stick with it goes to show that there really isn't much there. It's simply a fantasy epic that looks cool and is well performed. Aside from that, there's no rabid discussion of what you thought of this or that, it's basically dead already. And the worldwide gross fell from Part 1 to Part 2. Not a good sign.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

A great movie treated like a masterpiece because people are so beaten down by garbage.

[@yahnatanlevi6894]

Also there is no woke agenda in it or lgbt trash which makes it good

[@AmsterdamHeavy]

that about sums it up

[@lilbubblegumleaks8104]

I honestly think it could be the greatest film ever made. I don’t say that lightly.

[@EndertheWeek]

The water discipline and the still suits are appalling as a lover of the book I have no intention of seeing this because it would grate. I also have to say Gary's summation was atrocious 🙂

[@whitworth5s248]

When Jurassic Park came out, it was considered just a great movie. What's the difference between it and a 'great' movie coming out today? 30 years of nostalgia.

[@Pyrate_Of_Las_Vegas]

Zendaya has the acting depth of a puddle of water on Arrakis

[@raidensnake9471016]

I can't stand her and Chalamet!

[@fedoff2190]

@@raidensnake9471016 chalamet is a perfect Paul

[@bl8388]

Good thing she isn't Maud Dib

[@joshuakarr-BibleMan]

The cavernous wells are humongous.

[@YoutubeSuxx7]

she's not that bad, calm down

[@lizardtattoo1]

Dune was slightly 'lucky' in this way- Herbert's original books had women being just as strong as men in their own way (the Bene Gesserit, female Fremen warriors). Because he wrote it with some gender balance in it, there was less 'need' to insert intersectional ideas. You CAN see some of Villeneuve's nods to more current sensibilities: 1) making female characters have more agency/ability (the new Jessica kills with her hands, Dune '84 she didn't) 2) Changes like Dr Kines' race/gender make little difference to the plot because it doesn't become the focus, or even get a mention (you wouldn't know the character has been gender swapped if you hadn't read the book or seen Dune '84)

[@ebishrimpy9366]

I agree, zendaya isn't a versatile actress. If anything, its as if she's not acting but just being herself in all the movies she's in

[@indigrient8634]

I'm glad that I can finally go to the cinema and watch a good movie.

[@Snowqueenelsaofficial992]

​@@Cat14721Your welcome It's called a hustle sweetheart 😉

[@issaggg1087]

theres been plenty of great movies in cinema lol

[@davidhero1000]

Zendaya could be in the best movie ever made and i wont watch it

[@bradleyj.fortner2203]

@@issaggg1087 That's a bit of an exaggeration. There've been a few. Not "plenty". I get what OP is saying.

[@ShallowDepression]

Yes, but when are they going to show one?

[@joshuaedwards4927]

Finally criticism of Zendaya

[@floridamann1109]

She has about as much range as a lead balloon does distance traveled

[@sedlyholmes3722]

The problem of her character is they gave her so much like a girlboss, they didn't take the real tragedies of chani in the books

[@bendegorro754]

@@sedlyholmes3722 Because I've watched the series, I can understand why Zendaya act like a girl boss in Denis Villeneuve version. Paul was talking a lot about his dream to Chani, that's why only she knew what will happen in the future. Of course Lady Jessica knew as well and the Bene Gesserit.

[@deanfirnatine7814]

Geez its like now the thing "cool kids" do as far as slamming her, she is far better than dozens of actresses no one ever hammers on. She is not a great actress but again there are far worse.

[@mrrodriguezHLP]

Her best work is in Euphoria. She really does make you hate her, the way you would hate a drug addict that ruins their family and friendships in real life. She gives you enough hope that she can turn it around, only to realize what a deluded fool you are, and that she is conning you again. The real criticism of the show is the oversexualization of the other high school aged characters.

[@MrTkillian]

I had also tried many times to read the books and never could get into them. However I realize now it's because the first book hits you pretty hard early with terms and names that are sometimes hard to keep up with with no reference point. I could never get the appropriate "theater of the mind" experience going having not even seen the older movie. But now having seen both new movies, I gave the Audible version another go and it makes a WORLD of difference being able to picture it now.

[@zacharyyoung1083]

This film stands on the shoulders of David Lynch, it really takes zero chances and isn’t original in any way. It’s just tries to remake the film that Lynch tried to cram into 2 hrs probably due to studio pressure, over the course of 2 films. It’s a set piece by set piece remake of Lynch’s film with a little added exposition. The ending, as compared to Dune 1984, is an enormous letdown that only serves to setup Dune part 3. I prefer to have Paul stab Feyd Rautha in the throat and then explode his chest cavity with the Weirding Way followed by his Heretic Sister screaming that he is the Kwisatz Haderach, but maybe I’m Weird too.

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

The Fremen arent native to Arrakis

[@jaybee9269]

Sounds like an Israeli vs. Palestinian argument building. Yeah, they were refugee’s originally.

[@vanripem]

Fine, but they've been there so long that this is roughly equivalent to saying the English aren't really native to England, being comprised of indigenous Celts plus Angles, Jutes, Saxons, and Normans.

[@nicknevco215]

thought the Harkonnen brought them there as slaves

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

@vanripem not really since one is fake and the other is real.

[@darkhighwayman1757]

@@nicknevco215No they got there way before the Harkonnens got there. The Zensunni wanderings had them end up on Arrakis

[@fivepillars4880]

Well they completely changed zendayas character from the book. In the book she supports paul & sticks by his side during his messiah phase . In the movie they made it the opposite

[@clit_niblr0375]

Gotta have their girl boss scene nonsense or else the FemiNutzees will scream like Harpies about the Patriarchy and always being oppressed.

[@Tony-1971]

@@clit_niblr0375 Agreed. Thats why also they swapped Liet Kynes to a female character. They even admitted it.

[@blochtar]

I think they Will make her the new Korba in the next movie.

[@alistercook5066]

Yep that's the only problem I have with it but I guess they wanted a strong female that was independent and shit on the character instead

[@scott8448]

They could have fixed it all with a minute of dialogue from the books too. When he confronted the emperor and said he’d take his daughter as his bride but wouldn’t give her the time of day because he loves chani. A simple scene that would show Paul’s commitment to chani and in turn make her the character people actually know. Instead they’re trying to make her the next boss bitch for book 3

[@anttt7993]

What's up with KZbinrs trying to look like musicians but putting a guitar in the background?

[@grandmastercadillac9052]

I mostly loved it. I just didn’t care much for the changes to Chani’s character from the book and am slightly worried about what that implies for future movies.

[@MoreAwsomeMetal]

Denis Villeneuve is already working on a third Dune movie, which is about adapting the novel Dune Messiah. It should come out around 2027. Warner is obviously creating a big blockbuster Sci-Fi franchise of it's own with Dune, and if the movies keeps getting better, then they are sitting on a pot of gold.

[@rickdeckardbladerunner2049]

Dune Messiah was a failure of a book compared to Dune the original book. It is the deconstruction of Paul the hero and very political and boring. Very little action. So, if you're into tragedy films, this will take the cake. If this is Dune part 3 I will pass. With Chani riding off at the end, it sure looks like it is setting up for that. She sole his thunder and for that, I will never watch part 2 again. We men don't like this trend in films. Sorry girly men and manly women.

[@napoca7586]

Villeneuve said it will come out in 10 years. He is making other movies, before that.

[@nicolasvelez8613]

the fuck you talking about@@rickdeckardbladerunner2049

[@juletaurus]

@@rickdeckardbladerunner2049 Quit whining. The MALE director called that. JFC, many of you dudes whine more than women.

[@Sun.Shine-]

Damn, so we are going to get franchise like star wars & lotr.. I wish they'd stop

[@srottfaen]

I don't mind Zendaya as much as I mind the utter character assassination of Chani.

[@jaybee9269]

Isn’t that the truth?

[@srottfaen]

In the book she's a wise Fremen woman. The whole "southern fremen are the religious ones" is completely a movie thing. In the movie she acts like a snooty teenanger. The worst is the ending. She very much supports Pauls marriage to princess Irulan in the book, but in the movie she just storms off and rides a worm while crying.

[@petrowegynyolc7108]

The character assassination of Chani... And Jessica... And Stilgar. And the Thufir storyline, which made an idiot out of the baron...

[@mrdrebin123]

@@petrowegynyolc7108 Stilgar wasn't that bad.. I kind preferred some of his ways.. He was a bit blind fanatic in some bits.. But his pure belief through the actor's portrayal of the character made him very much intriqueing.

[@petrowegynyolc7108]

@@mrdrebin123 he was played for the laughter and throughly humiliated by Chani and her "modern, woken company who are not constrained by the religious beliefs of the South"... Both book and Part1 Stilgar would immediately have had put her into her place, instead of suffering the insults.

[@aliensoup2420]

I think it is interesting how David Lynch visualized Giedi Prime as Planet of the Gingers, while Denis V. portrays it as Planet of the Skinheads. It works either way, but in Denis' version the Harkonnes' psychosis is more subtle and brooding. Lynch's version was more entertaining, while Denis' version is more frightening. I now view the Lynch DUNE as how the story would look if performed as live theater.

[@thanktink4328]

It's like she stole the war boy look from mad max fury rode.. I Iive, I die, I live again..

[@buggerlugz6753]

I thought the entire thing was "meh", the Lynch version was an masterpiece by comparison. This film does what Star Trek Discovery does for the star trek universe. It has its glimpses of brilliance but is so far up its own ass it gets it so so very wrong.

[@wesrm1]

You know, with that popcorn bucket collectible, do you think they knew how that was going to be perceived or was it like, "oh no, what have we done?"

[@ArmyGuyDan]

Ha

[@Ulvetann]

Spicy fleshlight?

[@Dan-nh8nu]

They knew

[@DodgyTodger]

Oh, so her Spiderman face. Wow. What talent

[@CoercedJab]

I wish they would’ve done the Dragon fly copter

[@aaronorta6296]

Zendaya was the worst part of this movie imo. Such a wooden performance. She didn’t really have chemistry with Paul and she seems to always be against him. I don’t really know why they were together. Didn’t seem like a natural relationship

[@albaestrada8603]

The way she would obviously stare him down in front of his masses was so stupid lol his people would ostracized her for doing that

[@adsheff]

To be fair - the pacing matches that of the book pretty closely - the ending wraps up really quickly in the book. Also, the book does end with Chani and Jessica - so makes sense that the film matches that too.

[@JohnJaneson2449]

Yes, exactly! The final battle in the book is even faster than in the new movie. But you don't feel it when reading the book, because it's printed words that you can pace yourself. When put in movie form, the jumps become very obvious. In fact Denis Villeneuve have already put additional explanatory scenes in the movie to explain the final battle. These scenes were not in the book.

[@thegoldenboah3343]

its actually more trash in the trash

[@user-rz5hi5cs4l]

They should’ve made everybody gay.

[@shanenolan5625]

And lame

[@MrThatpersonthatguy]

And put a chick in it

[@SubtractZero]

@@shanenolan5625 linguini

[@jaybee9269]

And put a chick in it!

[@erikb7392]

and bipoc

[@fionnaitsradag5152]

Zendaya was a poor casting choice for Chani. Otherwise, looks promising!

[@maxmazzotti6651]

I liked Barbora Kodetova as Chani in the 2000 miniseries

[@snowmcsnow4732]

The movie could have been a lot better. I actually became nostalgic of the 1984 David Lynch version while watching this one. Zendaya sucks, I wish they had somebody else play the role and I wish her character stuck to the source material.

[@marissashantez6051]

I liked it. But honestly, it's terribly dumbed down. And Im so tired of Zendaya sulking constantly. She is vastly over rated.

[@Streetecho07]

it's so badly written imo, Paul's character growth was rushed, it only took like 2 scenes for him to change everything he stood for, and i don't know what's the point of Zendaya in all of this, she literally added nothing to do the show, I thought she was gonna be the reason Paul would not succomb to the prophesy lies, or at least be his wife, yet he did at the end and got with the other chick, also that pyscho is easily the worst villain i've ever seen, they've been building his character as a top warrior and just took an L to Paul because Zendaya was there to support him with LOVE i guess... and the effing Harkonnen guy is supposed to be a master, he died like a dog for no reason. which means that whole thing about him being his grandson was all for ntg cuz the mf is dead and the plot obviously will go towards the big battle between Fremen and those big families or whatever.. You can't just make a 3 hour movie building up to another movie

[@jurycould4275]

The kid's there, because that's what Hollywood wants. Nothing to do with the audience or critics rating her.

[@slippytrippy8122]

Imagine her face when Paul is walking around with two wives in the sequel. I just cant see her doing the next movie

[@jurycould4275]

@@slippytrippy8122 That part will be wokeified. Obviously.

[@slippytrippy8122]

@@jurycould4275 I think theyll change it and Chani will be like, in self exile raising a small group of freemen who oppose Paul. Theres no way Zendaya will go along with the two wives thing. What do you think

[@hamdinger7145]

Gary used to own a sandworm

[@tangofett4065]

Hey! I’ve been to Saturn!

[@3dfreak2000]

He probably uses one for his daily commute. I bet he has a sandworm driver's licence.

[@icywhatyoudidthere]

He got kicked out of three sietches!

[@RichardTLDR]

Most guys do.

[@LuisSierra42]

I am a sandworm

[@bracoop2]

The Chani character had way too much screen time compared to the emperor and Feyd

[@cormacalclian]

It's not a sequel. It's 2nd part of the movie as there was no sense to squize the whole book into 1 movie.

[@yahya_elistinsary]

they need three, but nobody every would give Denis the money for that.

[@Zoroasterisk]

​@BodyBeats242Wrong. That's a different novel jfc

[@scotttimbrell8632]

But what actually happened in Part 1 of substance that required a Part 2? The entire movie was emotionless, soulless and boring. Part 2 might pick it up, but it felt like I was watching a filer episode where the most interesting character was the gardener.

[@DarcsenHero]

@@scotttimbrell8632Most of Part 2 is straight up padding.

[@scotttimbrell8632]

NGL I thought that said "Paddling" and got excited that something more interesting than the first movie was happening.@@DarcsenHero

[@babalaord]

UFFFFFF the Zendaya california quote articulated perfectly the only gripe I had with the movie.

[@billbrandley5839]

It was a well made, good movie but too many things from the book were missing in my opinion. Spice was not explained very well, mentats were barely mentioned, navigators were absent, Feyd needed character development, the Emperor was poorly represented, Alia is not even born, etc. Had I not read the books I probably would have enjoyed the movie more. The 1984 version was closer to the book I think.

[@JohnJaneson2449]

Very good points, but those would make this movie 5 hours lol.

[@panicrev555]

2049 didn't suck

[@rickdeckardbladerunner2049]

It looked great, but the story sucked! The typical Denis film. All his films look amazing, but suck when it comes to characters and story. No emotional connections, very scientific. All his films have a low re-watch score.

[@norolimstratus]

It did.

[@hairglowingkyle4572]

@@rickdeckardbladerunner2049 To each their own, but I find 2049 to be one of the most rewatchable films out there. It's just very satisfying and moody, a good choice for a film for a crappy rainy saturday night

[@stevewhite6241]

​@@rickdeckardbladerunner2049that seems to be your problem rather than the movie's. I sailed through that movie in no time.

[@ConnMan011]

I loved 2049

[@ginger-kat]

Is it just me or does the Harkonin (sp?) Nephew look like the guy that got fired for stealing luggage?

[@IVespidI]

LOL! He totally does good call

[@leahcimwerdna5209]

😂😂😂

[@Whoischrislewis]

😂😂😂😂 I thought the same thing!

[@stephentg1]

Heh. Heh. Yeah, he does.

[@ngamashaka4894]

Yes he was wearing my suit

[@ericzipay9271]

My fiancé and I are massive LOTR fans.. huge nerds of it. Just went and say return of the king extended version in theatre and the fellowship with live orchestra. We love the series. Dune 2 absolutely falls into the same category. I haven’t seen a movie so good since LOTR. I was completely blown away. Dune 2 is a masterpiece, a pure work of art. We both looked at each other when it was over and just sat in the theatre like what the fuck. It’s truly beautiful and it absolutely made me feel all types of ways just like LOTR did. Go watch it

[@josecipriano3048]

I'm sorry you haven't watch a good movie in over twenty years. If this is your reaction to a mediocre movie, I can't imagine if you'd watch a good one.

[@ToriZealot]

@@josecipriano3048 Hardly any good movies since 2014 ... and for lovers of certain genres even less of course

[@alinasaiko7675]

We cannot easily compare the worlds Herbert and Tolkien created. They are totally different flavours.. read the books first ( or at least one of the series) then you might be able to analyze, compare aso. Plus keep in mind: LOTR fantasy / Dune sci-fi. I’m too lazy to go on but maybe you can catch my point here. 😊 I’m a big fan of Dune, read the books & I also love LOTR movie trilogy.

[@fredsilva7274]

The director is expected to do Rendezvous with Rama in the next year or 2. Been waiting decades for the movie to finally be made. He would do it justice. Fingers crossed.

[@ynptrip]

wait, what???? That series got really weird by the third book.

[@BerodranG]

That would be amazing! Yeah, the second book and onwards was written by a different author. I could barely read the second and didn't even try the next one. The first though, so good!

[@phrozac]

For reals?? Morgan Freeman has been trying to make that for decades. Hopefully he's in it. I would've figured Nolan might attempt that one as a response to Villenueve's recent sci-fi oeuvre seeing as how they've got a bit of a director bromance going. I'll take anything a friendly rivalry between these two produces.

[@heshangunarathna3262]

oh my god... who want eight or so people to stranded in a 40 km long cylinder for years....😉

[@AbhishekChaudhary-uq4xo]

Recently completed the novel series. And I am hyped for this adaptation.

[@AlejandroDiazadiaz201]

Fun fact: Tolkien hated Dune with a passion.

[@marktheshark7588]

How the heck.That's a fun fact.

[@PeloquinDavid]

Tolkien was always a romantic old foggey who created a VERY black and white, hero- and aristocracy-worshiping moral universe a million miles remived from the morally ambiguous and ofter downright cynical Dune universe. And as a very committed Catholic, he particularly HATED Dune's stance on religion. Hell, he would probably have hated the three Jackson films. And I shudder to imagine what he would have thought of "The Rings of Power"...

[@AlejandroDiazadiaz201]

@@PeloquinDavidI think it was Quinn who said that Paul is what would have happened to Aragorn if he had taken The One Ring to defeat Sauron

[@PeloquinDavid]

@@AlejandroDiazadiaz201 Leave it to Quinn: that's a great analogy...

[@Mulgerehircum]

@@PeloquinDavid Forget the Rings of Power,...after the abomination The Hobbit movies were, I'm sure he would've forbidenn anyone from ever making anything LOTR related.

[@adeptusmechanicus9400]

The only issue I had was most of the fighting against the Fremen. Every Fremen being able to kill with no or very minimal casualties just made most of the battles feel weak. I guess that's just me though.

[@patreardan1727]

I haven't watched Dune 2 yet, but from the first movie, it feels like they did the Sarduakar dirty and that may be why the Fremen seem overpowered. They definitely seemed weaker than how they were depicted in the Lynch version - the only real improvement in this version is that they drilled home the fanaticism but they left out the brutal competency and diehard toughness of the Sardaukar. Lynch captured that in a weird way - there's a scene where Duncan shoots a Sardaukar in the chest, the dude goes down, then gets right back up and wrestles with Duncan until he gets a dagger jammed right through his head. The book Fremen are supposed to be roughly equal to the Sardaukar, just more numerous and a surprise to the Sardaukar because they are so much better than the ordinary Great House soldiers (per the book one Sardaukar is generally considered equal to 10 Great House soldiers).

[@AZAZELNESS]

They sustained massive casualties in most of the fights I'd wager - there's just a LOT of them, and the movie didn't dwell on it too much (at all).

[@shockwavesteve]

@@patreardan1727 They’re like that in the book. Duncan is the greatest fighter in the universe apart from Paul.

[@JonathanJK]

The movie didn’t click for me. The only interesting character was Feyd Rautha. It’s a shame because I wanted to like this movie.

[@mojopin2000]

RZF = Resting Zendaya Face

[@VSMOKE1]

Her acting really ruins this movie for me

[@raginhomosapien]

@@VSMOKE1 the second half she was so bad and the last scene ugh i had to leave

[@samuelmyth8392]

What was wrong with it? I thought she was quite good. Especially with how she conveyed her feelings for Paul towards the end of the film. Ye she is basically an american speaking person from a very distant part of the universe but so was Chalamet. It didn't ruin the immersion for me considering how large and unknown the universe is.

[@Spoogebro]

@@samuelmyth8392 idk why the film doesn’t address it but the reason chani is able to speak english without an accent is because her mother (father in the books) is liet kynes who was a planetologist and the arbiter of the change and not originally from arrakis

[@fuzzyschwartz]

This is for my people!

[@kenshiro-lycus3050]

Chani was the character I dislike the most! Because that is not the way she is in the books!! Other than that, it was a fine watch!

[@lazkraft7917]

Good, not everything should be like the book, otherwise it'd be boring.

[@N_Loco_Parenthesis]

@@lazkraft7917Nope, not true. Not if the book isn't boring.

[@DonovanGG__]

Let me make a braindead comment with the goal of fishing for likes!🫵😃

[@bastianena]

The CGI was great but I prefer Lynch's version.

[@Gideon_the_Seraph]

I watched Dune 1 and thought it was fine. It was alright. Saw Dune 2, and that was one of the best movies I've seen.

[@radamrussell]

I'm with it. I liked it, but Dune 1 felt bigger, had more depth and was better overall. Both had pacing issues that could have been used to flesh out characters or the politics and alliances of the world, but I came out of the theater feeling slightly underwhelmed. Still it's 100% worth a trip to the theater and on the best screen available.

[@mdc3227]

"Dune 1 felt bigger, had more depth" are you trolling? Like, seriously? Did you fall asleep through part 2? Lmaooo. Brain dead take.

[@MR_Foffe]

@@mdc3227 Nothing better than insulting the intelligence of strangers for not sharing your exact opinions and preferences, I guess

[@mileswiltse4535]

Nah man, this guy is legitimately a whacko ​@MR_Foffe

[@helpIthinkmylegsaregone]

Dune 2 was absolute pretentious garbage. I could somewhat follow because I was familiar with the basic story, but as a standalone film this was a pile of garbage. Yeah they had dramatic bass music and some nice visuals but that's it. Oh and they kept doing this weird Kalergi thing where they try to trick you into thinking that 1 inch forehead McBoradnose is attractive or a good actress. The scene where he marries himself to the Midsommar chick and she did this dramatic gasp actually made me laugh out loud. Hot garbage. You've literally all been tricked if you think this is good cinema. Or if you think Zendaya is pretty or talented.

[@mileswiltse4535]

@@helpIthinkmylegsaregone tldr :>

[@elbonja]

You described exactly what I think about Zendaya's performance, she acted like a "tough californian girl". Worse of all, every single time she came on screen I was badly reminded I was still watching a movie... Not saying she's a bad actress, but she could have improved her presence by adopting a different accent at least.

[@Nio744]

But they explained why her accent was different.

[@elbonja]

@@Nio744 there's nothing wrong with her accent being different, problem was her mannerisms and way of speaking were just too "urban". I wouldn't have seen any difference between this movie and Euphoria. The only difference is that she acted "tough" most of the time, but everything else was the same.

[@realreviewsofficial]

In my review I describe her performance as like a petulant teenager, thats all she seems to do. glare at people then stomp off

[@VSMOKE1]

Nah she's a horrible actress You just know they put this child actress through shit

[@VSMOKE1]

The faces they had her making were😂😂😂😂

[@thomasneiko302]

I loved this movie, I honestly don’t think the pacing of the first half is bad but I do agree the film honestly could’ve used an extra 30 to 45 minutes at the end. I could be completely wrong, but I have heard that the battle scenes in Dune (the book) aren’t super fleshed out so that may have been the reason why certain certain battle scenes weren’t longer. I wish the Director could have added about 30 minutes just to make the battle scenes longer and more intense. Than maybe I could put it up at the same level as The Two Towers. Overall, I think it’s the best sci-fi movie in a long time, and maybe one of the better movies of the entire decade.

[@JohnJaneson2449]

I have read the book, and yes you are right, the final battle in the book is even faster and skips a lot. But when you read it in book form, you don't feel rushed because it's a book that you can pace yourself. In movie form, the scene jumps become very obvious. I agree it need even more explanatory scenes for the final battle.

[@forsakenone5033]

ehhh idk its hard to compare Lotr with this two different type of movies

[@peterleyden5069]

Zendaya was very much the weak link of the cast. I noticed in the first movie that all the other Fremen had an accent but her; in this one they even explicitly mention Fremen accents (Stilgar had a southern Fremen accent) while Chani was there, ignoring her Californian accent. You are being paid to be a professional actress, I'd think that a professional actress ought to be able to handle an accent. You are right about Javier Barden as Stilgar stealing the show. He completely makes the Fremen for me. I'd add that I loved what they did with Josh Brolins Gurney so much that I wish they had introduced him way sooner. In 1984 Dune he went native just like Paul and Lady Jessica and was a pretty generic honorable warrior character. In this he never gets the blue eyes and acts a bit like the devil on Paul's shoulder, seeing the Fremen as just a means to avenging house Atreides. I don't want to spoil anything so I won't say more, but if they were already going to change some things from the books why not bring Gurney in sooner too?

[@JH-JH-JH-JH]

Gurney coming in too soon would have pulled focus from Paul's captivation of/assimilation into the Fremen, which was firmly entrenched by Gurney's re-introduction.

[@randomuserame]

Didn't want to get canceled on X for "culturally appropriating," probably.

[@danilocalic797]

"all the other Fremen had an accent but her" They acknowledged it in the second movie.

[@firmanimad]

I'm fine with Zendaya feeling "normal" and understated because she kinda serves as a vehicle for the viewers to relate to. Her not having an accent probably served for that purpose. She also had a good chemistry with Chalamet.

[@TheRelentlessKnight]

In the second movie she said the people from the south had the accent. Not the North. Shes from the north

[@Thescott16]

I've read the book. These movies are good (at least, from what I can see from Part 2's trailer and info), bordering on great, but they miss on a few points from the books. Part of the point of Jessica giving birth while with the Fremen was because her daughter, Alia, is a key figure in the final act of the book and in future books. Because of the psychic and drug-fueled trial Jessica has to go through to become a Reverend Mother of the Bene Gesserit, Alia also gains heightened awareness and consciousness _while inside the womb._ Alia is basically born with the wisdom and intelligence and powers of a Reverend Mother but without any of the disciplines or loyalties (in the book, she's the one who kills the Baron because he underestimates her, since she's 2 years old, and lets her get close enough to stab him with a gom jabbar needle she'd been hiding). In part one, the biggest disappointment was the gender-swap and race-swap of Liet Kynes. In the book, Liet Kynes is a male Imperial Ecologist who was chosen by the Emperor personally to learn about Arrakis and the Fremen. Long story short, Kynes goes full Dances with Wolves and gets adopted into the Fremen, even starting a family (Chani is his daughter, making her half-Imperial in the books). He's later so impressed by the honor and integrity of Duke Leto Atreides, partially thanks to the values he gained by spending so much time with the Fremen, that he actually betrays the Emperor and helps the Atreides royal family (most of them) escape. As an Imperial, and as the Imperial Ecologist and Emperor's contact, he's not killed by the Harkonnen. However, after he's captured he's left in the desert with a ruined stillsuit as punishment for his betrayal so they can say they "never killed" the Imperial Ecologist. Kynes' life in the book has beautiful poetic symmetry: he starts out as an Imperial agent to be used to exploit the Fremen, but instead he learns their ways to survive the desert and becomes a man of greater integrity as he falls in love with the Fremen and Arrakis. Later, he sides with Leto against the Emperor, showcasing the Emperor's fears of Leto having the potential to gain enough influence to usurp him (if Leto could convince his _chosen man_ on the planet, an Imperial man, he could convince anyone to come to his side). Then, Kynes sacrifices himself to do what is right, and the people he started out serving in the first place leave him to die in the desert he was sent to study as an insult to him, but in actuality he's at peace with it since he'd long since come to love the place and now gets to be one with it. They removed nearly all that poetry for a cheap girl-boss moment, and it will never not annoy me.

[@markcnut17]

When you put it like that I can’t help but feel the same frustration you feel!

[@Albacksen]

That's a very good point. Kynes was one of my favorite side characters in the first book.

[@TruthWiz]

This is such an excellent comment. You're spot on. I'm super curious if you've seen Dune Part 2 yet, and would love to hear your take(s) on the changes that are made to Chani and others.

[@Malekith227]

The choice they made to swap the arcs of Chani and Jessica is very weird. Jessica is supposed to be reluctant and Chani the supportive one. Paul and Chani are suppose to have two children together so if they make a sequel they'll have to resolve this plot point that doens't exist in he book. They made some very strange choices. I understand why they cut out the mentats from the second movie but why did they introduced them in the first one then ? And why did they cut out completely the Guild ? So that the Landsraad can bring their warships without opposition in the end ? Some part are overly long, and some seem rushed, seemingly at random. I suppose for the sake of making beautiful shots ? This movie stutters. Or is desperately in need of an extended cut (which is ironic for a 3 hours long movie).

[@rickdeckardbladerunner2049]

The movie is not worth a second view because of what you said and tons more. Its an abomination with pretty visuals that is fooling all the movie theater starved sheeple.

[@vqaoutrz2609]

It’s an adaptation of the books not a copy and paste

[@Malekith227]

@@vqaoutrz2609 You missed the point entirely.

[@bfedezl2018]

@@rickdeckardbladerunner2049 Such an abortion of an opinion

[@r1pbuck]

I suspect Villeneuve wants to create some conflict between Chani and Paul to resolve in a third movie...Dune Messiah. Of course, this movie will have to succeed bigtime to ensure another sequel, but I think it's a good bet that it will. All [well, some anyway] of the dangling plot threads will have been reserved to beef up the plot and action of Messiah.

[@lesliedominguez7629]

I fell asleep 3 times with the 1st one. Everyone says is great... had to get some energy drinks to finish that one first

[@bordocofrivia2896]

IMO, everything was great except for Zendaya, because Zendaya is an activist pretending to be an actress in a good movie.

[@Sam_T2000]

can you give an example of her giving a bad performance in this movie? she wasn’t the greatest actress, but she didn’t take me out of the movie at all, and was always believable as Chani 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@aSSGoblin1488]

Zendaya is spidermans gf and the atreides guy looks pretty handsome but being so WHITE he will do as well in the desert as black people dieting in front of fried chicken,

[@CitizenoftheWorld1]

So you're gonna hate on any performances by Zendaya because she's an activist??? Sounds like you're just hating cause she's a woke female. Timothee is a woke male, but you don't seem bothered by his acting considering he dresses feminine on the red carpet and is clearly supportive of the LGBTQ people

[@deanfirnatine7814]

She is not remotely as bad as some make her out to be, it has become the "cool kids" thing to hammer on her. I have not seen a single activist thing she has supposedly said.

[@TOMASHDZ2110]

​@@deanfirnatine7814she's overrated

[@solomonable1679]

I liked the movie but they cut one of the best characters I wish we could have seen on screen (young Alia) and changed the ending enough to make me question how the will set up the second book to cannan standards. Chani was also way more likeable in the book. (No constant resting bitch face.)

[@zeronos2844]

Kinda understandable they changed Aila because a cgi toddler blitzing in a battlefield is super weird.

[@solomonable1679]

@@zeronos2844 I can see that. They could have just left her out of battle though instead of leaving her out entirely. The adult acting toddler making the Freman women uncomfortable would have been easy enough to do though. The time skip between the first and second book is 12 years too. They could have fudge the numbers on that a bit to make her a little older too.

[@larsroarh6285]

Im more sad they cut Thufir Hawat

[@jerryhorton5708]

The recharacterization of Chani was not terrific but was consistent with the plot as written for the screen

[@zeronos2844]

@@jerryhorton5708 Also Denis said that he was just trying to show what Frank Herbert wants to convey: Paul is not a hero.

[@andrej1783]

Frank Herbert himself rushed with ending of his first book by almost not bothering much with last battle at all, so D.V did a much, much better job with a film... :))))

[@JohnJaneson2449]

Yes!

[@SpencerBowlby]

I walked out after watching for 1hr 40min, I was waiting for things to pick up, but it never did. It stayed at a snails pace throughout. It was very boring. Every 10-20minutes or so the movie would have a few minutes of action and great visual explosions, then it would be back to boring dialogue. They even found a way to make the action scenes boring. There were no high stakes. The “good guys” win every battle. No one important suffers or dies. I didn’t care about anyone. It didn’t draw any emotion out of me. It was hard to following the story line, as the movie didn’t keep my attention or draw me in at all. I’ve seen movies with very little to no dialogue. Those movies have drawn me in more. I felt more invested with those characters. But this move, nope.

[@gubbothehuggo2771]

This movie taught me never to drink the blue stupid juice

[@kevineckelkamp]

Lmao

[@chalmers1984]

The gold liquid

[@ediemarie13]

I've been a Frank Herbert fan for DECADES, so I'm thrilled that someone was able to do the series justice.

[@sergiokaminotanjo]

Ah yes...a lame slow paced boomer movie that no one asked for is great while every superhero, sci fi action, or video game movie its trash... lm SO happy to hear that.

[@Brandon-tk2rw]

cenophille here . DV is a legit genius. been a huge fan since "Prisoners" -- although "arrival" was when we started seeing his signature aesthetics... DV's Blade Runner is one of the most misunderstood/underappreciated masterpieces in contemporary cinema; and is MUCH better than even the original RS film...

[@leos.2322]

@@sergiokaminotanjo No, only the one sthat were trash. Captain america and Iron man 1 were amazing, the infinity saga kicked ass.

[@aakuster]

​@@sergiokaminotanjo People have been asking for Dune since the book came out, dullard😂

[@RxQLAB]

@@sergiokaminotanjo Im pretty sure there should be a new internet rule similar to Godwin's Law, where by if you utter the term "boomer" everyone reading/listening instantly gets to ignore your comment as you have outed yourself as a kid. Since kids don't know shit about shit, we would be justified in doing so.

[@BattousaiMLT]

I cant understand how you can have such a stellar cast of proven actors and lump in Zendaya in there. In a desolate desert planet surrounded by people with ethnic sounding accents she comes out with a valley girl accent. I love everythign about the new dune movies apart from that 1 casting choice. every scene she's in sounds like she just learned the lines the day before shooting.

[@xxmrb3nz3dr1n3xx]

Austin Butler is slowly becoming one of my favorite actors.

[@wowado]

Zendaya is not Chani. Zendaya is Zendaya. It's the same like Miles Morales is not Spiderman. Miles Morales is Miles Morales.

[@marktheshark7588]

Exactly.Zendaya can't act to save her life.Along with Tom Holland.

[@somewhat.random]

One of the problems Hollywood has with Dune is they constantly want Paul Atriedes to be "The Hero". But his story ISN'T "The Heroes Journey". And when they constantly try to play it as such it makes telling the story impossible. To be fair, I suspect a truly faithful retelling of the story would not be popular either. So as film makers they are caught in a dilemma that is always going to be "solved" in the direction of being monetarily successful.

[@Nio744]

I like that it ended the way it did. Sure they could've gone even harder into the dark implications of what's in store but it did a pretty good job nonetheless. Not perfect but good.

[@rickdeckardbladerunner2049]

It is a hero's Journey if you read the first book. The follow up novels deconstructed the hero's journey because there was no place to go but down for the author. I prefer just the first book, so if they want Dune Messiah, I will pass. That will be part 3, as the setup was the end. That part where she rides off should have been in the end credits or something. It sucked.

[@pleasegoawaydude]

@@rickdeckardbladerunner2049 I guess you know more about Frank Herbert's intentions than he did, apparently. You're one of those people who never learned to read between the lines.

[@yahya_elistinsary]

@@rickdeckardbladerunner2049 In the book Chani, did not like the fact Paul would not marry her, but she understood. And accepted being his concubine and eventually gave birth to the twins.

[@rickdeckardbladerunner2049]

​@@yahya_elistinsaryyes, I know. Dune part 2 added too much angry to Chani. The Dune part 2 poster says it all.

[@treytison1444]

Uh, the problem with making it take place in only 5 months is that Alia is an important character in the book and in the movie she's not even born yet... Also it makes it much less believable that Paul is able to ascend and unite all the fremen in such a short time.

[@Everthus4]

We need more movies like Dune. Good story, good music, good effects, good actors, good director. Excellent to watch. Movies with vision, not another cheap money grab in studio assembly line. My only regret is Dune looks like Fantasy movie, and i prefer more sf edge movies.

[@alfonskuchlbacher7350]

They left the spacing guild completly out, which is IMHO the key to understand the importance of spice and why Arrakis is the key to rule the universe.

[@reachthezora1912]

Is it? I mean, I understand it should have importance. But since the first movie we know spice is the most valuable resource in the universe, and it's overly implied that Arrakis is the richest if not the only source of this resource in the universe. I mean, I'm not saying the spacing guild is not important, but if what you say is the only reason it should be in the movie, I don't know, I don't see it that neccesary.

[@alfonskuchlbacher7350]

@@reachthezora1912 Thanks for your answer. Of course not the only reason, but a little less "Chani is a strong, fighting female" and a little more accuracy on the whole story would have been nice. But: simply my humble opinion.

[@q45ij54q]

@@reachthezora1912 It is. The Guild is actually the most powerful organization in the galaxy. When Paul declares he will destroy the spice, they back down which allows for Paul to take the Imperial throne. The entire ending of the film is convoluted because the Guild is omitted. Instead, we get some holy war nonsense where all of the sudden Fremen know how to fly galactic cruisers despite never having been offworld.

[@reachthezora1912]

@@q45ij54q That's a better argument.

[@bluegrassreb]

@@q45ij54q Agreed. Plus, the ending betrayed the book. The Landsraad didnt reject Paul and peace was kept; the entire reason Paul had to marry the Princess. Chani understands and stays with Paul as his true "Wife". They had already had a son together as well.

[@drvijil]

I’m one of those Dune book purists. Dune Part 1 was solidly good, but as for adapting the story, it could have been better. That said, the cinematography and effects were amazing. As a book, Dune is one of my all time favorites. I you try to read it, be patient. There are numerous characters and plot lines that must be established, a little more than 1/4 in, the story begins to roll along and becomes a rich, fulfilling complex story. Up to this point, I give the Lynch version the edge in terms of casting and story adaptation. The previews of Part 2 look great and along with several positive reviews, I look forward to seeing it in theaters.

[@weemadangus1834]

If you are book purists then you will face disappointment in this film. I did.

[@drvijil]

@@weemadangus1834 : Yeah, I suspect it will. I’ve rewatched part 1 a few times, and it gets more annoying each time. The cast of the first Dune movie was better. Except, I will say that Javier Bardem was an inspired choice to play Stilgar. Anyway, thanks for the warning.

[@weemadangus1834]

@@drvijil the cast of the 80s Dune are great.

[@Xenophon1]

Yep. @@weemadangus1834

[@JMBBrasil]

I just watched it. The journey of the hero was a bit week to me. His struggle and sacrifice was shadowed by bad dialogues on important scenes, and that made it had for me to truly believe in him and root for him .

[@user-ys8bu1li1r]

Ive read both dune and lotr and if you’re interested il share my opinion on which is better. Lotr translates better to film, those movies are aging almost immaculately because of that and also mostly because they are extremely well produced. But its not a fair comparison. The dune books aren’t typical fantasy like lotr, they are philosophical and ambiguous. Lotr focuses more on fantasy elements. It is better written and a more entertaining read but the ideas presented in dune are far more interesting and engaging. Because of this key difference its hard in theory to make a dune film that captures what makes the books so interesting. The modern dune films don’t fully express this, they are quite Hollywood suitable if that makes sense. But they are technical masterpieces and so are still very entertaining, the level of production is getting to an insanely good level. They need to accept and integrate the weirder less mainstream/hollywood suitable side of dune to elevate it to a level that can compete with the sheer excitement and thrill of lotr’s fantasy and adventure.

[@bushwahhhinc.5762]

I cannot overstate how much i enjoyed this movie

[@scotttimbrell8632]

Bet you also enjoy watching Paint dry?

[@bushwahhhinc.5762]

@@scotttimbrell8632 just a Warhammer nerd that had a particular itch scratched, so yeah kinda with the paint drying 😂

[@scotttimbrell8632]

Shame, cus the Lore of Warhammer is exactly what Dune should be like.@@bushwahhhinc.5762

[@samueldownie2187]

I have read these books and been a fan for a long time. To me, the most important theme that appears in Dune is a specific duality of human nature. We want peace, but we aren’t made for it. All of our deepest dreams are in the image of paradise, but all of our heroes and legends are remembered for their sacrifices. We as a species feel shame for our violent past, and yet here we are in the year 2024 still waging war on one another. Dune is not a story about the Spacing Guild or Mentats. It’s not about Chani or Paul or Alia or any one character in particular. Every detail, every bit of world building, is secondary to the true focus of the story: humanity itself. Watching these movies it’s clear to me that Villeneuve and his team are reading this story and asking the questions Frank Herbert wanted us to ask. I understand many details were changed or even omitted, but Villeneuve still managed to capture the essence of Herbert’s original story. To me that makes this a masterpiece.

[@rocketmunkey1]

"we aren't made for peace" ? Name me one w4r where we had a v0te to go to w4r ! Name me one war where so called popular support wasn't an illusion spun by the pr3ss, the same pre55 controlled by the very people who pr0fit from w4r. while we all lose ! People just want to get on with their lives !

[@PeteOliva]

This comment 1000 percent.

[@alinasaiko7675]

Thank you! 👍🏻

[@Mnml1980]

"We", the normal people, are very well able to live in peace. It's always just individuals and their accomplices who get us involved in wars.

[@Sun.Shine-]

After i watched a recap yesterday about the books, i understood why this franchise is a bit hardcore to be put onscreen. But the films parallels matrix alot!

[@dobertjowneyrunior3023]

Its very prescient that as Star Wars (and the themes and now hollow tropes its based around die) Dune takes its place (whose themes are more suited to the era our society is falling into)

[@ominae1]

I liked how the Freemen were such diverse people... I bet that was their strenght, DIVERSITY... LOL