RIP Doctor Who | A Casualty Of The Culture War

[@davidjhileman5334]

As a Star Wars fan, I would like to offer my condolences to the Doctor Who fans.

[@richardenglish2195]

Thank you. It's been a frustrating six years.

[@TaoRodBRodel]

Dude, i'm sorry for your people too :(

[@iankeenan7522]

As a lifelong Trekkie, I'll second that.

[@JennyfaninSweden]

Amen!

[@Monster_Hoax-Book_Mark]

Any tips to start and best part to end when going in the Star Wars and Dr. Who ??

[@DarthVader1273]

Dr. Who fans are some of the nicest and most passionate people I’ve met, and like many other fanbases, they didn’t deserve to have their franchise ruined by idiots.

[@Tallacus]

well Amazon did call the Lord of the Rings's fans evil so there's that

[@scaredycatparanormal3431]

💯 agree! Dr. Who… one flush down the toilet is all it took🤢

[@trimmthesage9986]

*commies

[@LuisSierra42]

@@Tallacus Well, let them be the only ones who watches that show then

[@JohnnyRaven69]

Nobody on this comment section are Doctor Who fans lmfao. Only little haters lol.

[@TrashWerewolf]

That whole BS about the MALE Doctor not being able to let go of power drives me nuts!! Have they already forgotten how Doctor Donna begged, pleaded and cried for the Doctor NOT to take her power away from her...even though she knew it would kill her!

[@LunarSpiral1127]

Exactly! Like what is with them and bashing on men?! The Doctor has made many sacrifices before. Did they think that he wouldn't do that because he was MALE?! God, way to ruin Donna.

[@overcomingthat2728]

Agreed! Also with the stupid timeless children if the doctor has unlimited regeneration then donna is safe from death anyway. Cuz the doctor can just heal her with regeneration energy. it's just so stupid!

[@manoz6194]

A man is defined by the sacrifices he makes

[@Notanothercrayon]

It was a gratingly stupid line for sure, for so many reasons. That said I don't think your example is the best; I'm pretty sure Donna was begging to keep her memories of her time with the doctor, and her friendship with him. He was taking away so much more than just her newfound power

[@DmonHiro]

You're being stupid. Doctor Donna didn't beg him to let her keep her powers, she begged him to let her keep her MEMORIES.

[@edenbreckhouse]

The Daleks tried for ages to kill off The Doctor and yet somehow the BBC managed it ridiculously easily.

[@MatthewFoley-dd3dp]

Correction Disney. The BBC TRIED for a couple Years with Jodi..but Disney said hold my beer in less than 3 specials.

[@Batmanvideos84789]

You two never watched the show because it’s always been progressive i mean there is a literall video titled doctor who being political for 1 hour and it has been woke since it was created but you never wachted the show so please watch the video I mentioned and then you think maybe I was wrong I guess it has been woke since it started to get a life and be quiet ok thank you

[@Zulkak1357]

​@@Batmanvideos84789It was political but not to this degree like it values politics more than the story at this point

[@Starmerispureevil]

Indocrinate, Indocrinate, indoctrinate.

[@Hegonauta]

@@Batmanvideos84789 hey, i also think that DW has always been progressive. But also agree with what the guy in the video said... i feel sad watching doctor who because i miss the 'Big Brain' moments where i had to pause the episode to try and understand all the wibly wobly stuff. Since Capaldi left i never felt that way again. since i've started watching i noticed it's weird only having a white male protagonist, i was so happy hearing about jodie coming in and thought "finally not a male doctor"... but i was expecting the show to continue beeing all crazy and stories conected and i having to really use my brain to undestand an episode. i wish the writers and directors could have continued the amazing story... but now it feels like i DONT have to use my brain to understand an episode... i love the fact that we finally had a female doctor and a black doctor now, i wish we keep having all kinds of people as the Doctor, because that is what the Doctor is. but i want good stories. they don't have to have a story beeing about gender equality to let people know about gender equality. i've learn so much watching doctor who, now it feels just like a repeat of what is happening in the world, episodes have no connection and story have huge holes in it... im sad for Jodie and Ncuti, both great people and great actors, but they got to be the Doctor when the writers are lazy...

[@Cyberleader672]

One of my all time favourite moments in all of Doctor Who was Jo Grant's departure. She announces she's getting married and although the Doctor acts happy for her you can tell he is devasted that the woman that kept him company through his years of being trapped on earth is leaving him. As everyone pours drinks to celebrate the Doctor silently drinks his and leaves the party while no one is looking (He didn't notice that Jo saw him). Then the Doctor, an ageless alien, drives away on his own. Calling scenes like that baggage is fucking insulting

[@BeamMonsterZeus]

It's pretentious and unfounded.

[@mayotango1317]

What abour the Eleventh Doctor meet Jo again.

[@lesigh1749]

The silhouette of Bessie against the twilight sky was a lovely bittersweet ending to that series.

[@charleshowarth1]

Fantastic comment. A scene like that says more than any agenda laden diatribe can ever convey. It's one of those true timeless moments.

[@melissar4612]

YES YES THIS.

[@Rosefire]

As I recall from studying *real* history, governments that sought to rewrite history to suit their needs weren't exactly the most peaceful idealistic societies.

[@petervizzini4006]

Got it in one

[@IllisiaAdams]

"History is written by the victims"...

[@manoz6194]

Soviet Russia and the "democratic" West comes to mind. Isn't it a coincidence that Germany saw them as the enemy?

[@JohnJohnson-wy6fk]

The soviets were notorious for this and their culture suffered greatly as a result

[@TRH.KARASU]

And we are watching this very symptom of humanity take place in real time

[@Kil-Caustic]

The Doctor being a slightly insufferable know-it-all is precisely why we loved him, among a myriad of other traits. I will personally never forget how David Tennant brought us the most compelling expression of "righteous anger" I think I'll ever see in my life. To be a lonely, wounded, god, filled with the rage of centuries pouring it out on the darkest of foes...it was just all so brilliant. RIP Dr. Who.

[@God-xd1wr]

I personally loved how Matt Smith could almost flip into a completely different character when things get serious. Most of the time, he’s the cheeriest, silliest and most playful Doctor around and then, in a moment, something else takes control. Something cold, ancient, and furious. Doctor Who is a show where the youngest ever actor to play a character can somehow look and feel the oldest out of all of them.

[@RadiuI]

its still going!

[@zxyatiywariii8]

​@@RadiuI No, it's not. Like a walker from The Walking Dead, its putrid, rotting corpse is still staggering around as if it were alive, but there's no life left inside, only a mindless, ravenous rage seeking to destroy everyone who once loved it.

[@kaijureaper61]

​@@zxyatiywariii8How come I've been seeing a lot of people enjoy it then?

[@Sines314]

Yah... The Doctor being kind of a dick is one of his most persistent traits across all regenerations. He's very smart, very old, very knowledgeable, and he knows it. And his ego doesn't get deflated often, but when it does, it feels EARNED. It's one of the things that made Romana fun, because while The Doctor may have a lot of practical experience, he's still the Time Lord equivalent of a college drop-out, allowing Romana to outsmart him from time to time in a way that feels natural.

[@Zittik444]

The grief I feel for a show I’ve been loyal to for almost 20 years is awful. I’ve never been so angry at writers.

[@blackcorp0001]

I'm over it ... Dr Who is a remnant of my childhood now ... time to grow up

[@AthenaCarlson-]

I'm a new watcher of doctor who and I do not want to watch the Disney/ new doctor who

[@auxlen]

Try 50. Breaks my heart.

[@loslobos786]

As a Whovian, I take solace in these 3 facts. There's fifty good years of Who that they can't ruin. Hartnell was the first Doctor and Capaldi was the last. Lastly their version of Dr Who will be forgotten in a decade ours is forever.

[@Docktavion]

The problem is they have and are removing older “problematic” episodes. Bit by bit they will find fault with each era and replace them all.

[@Metallifux1888]

Keep crying

[@DavidByrden1]

@@Metallifux1888 So you enjoy others' pain? You're a sociopath. Is he ACTUALLY crying? Tears falling? No. So you're a lying sociopath.

[@ThatBlueSkull]

find archives or create them only thing you can do now @@Docktavion

[@loslobos786]

@@ThatBlueSkull exactly and buy physical media.

[@tomfink7505]

I was having a conversation with a normie friend of mine over the weekend and, without giving it any thought, told him “All my old fandoms have been compromised - there’s pretty much nothing left from my old favorites to enjoy.” I said it matter-of-factly, but after it came out of my mouth, it saddened me to confirm out loud that so many things I used to love - comics, Star Wars, Star Trek and Doctor Who - have all been destroyed by people that couldn’t care less about them.

[@Me__Myself__and__I]

I still have Star Gate and Babylon 5, simply because nothing new for them came out in the last 10 years. I used to be saf about no new content, but now I see it as a blessing.

[@jiin6]

@@Me__Myself__and__I other than that one stargate game

[@shanemczane6725]

@@Me__Myself__and__I farscape has become an untarnished favorite of mine, but like anything now I'd nearly riot over reboot attempts; 9/10 it's always a downgrade.

[@AnitaLife27]

@@shanemczane6725they’re threatening to revive Farscape. It’s a Disney property now. Fortunately I still have DVDs of 1st and 2 nd season. Tragic!

[@Simon-xc5oy]

Yes I feel the same. I have run out of things to watch. And enjoy. Because I have seen all these things a million times. I love them, they are great. Doctor Who, Trek, Star Wars etc. But they are not making anything new from them, that is worth seeing and nothing new that is anywhere near as good as what they were years ago. And its sad as the potential is there, they just want to use them to lecture the audience now, and not entertain. So I no longer watch any of them . I watched the first two Tennant specials and they were that bad, that preachy and that much of an F. U. to older fans like me I could not bring myself to watch the last one The Giggle. I am actually glad I missed it. And what I saw for the Christmas Trailer looks like one of the worst episodes of Doctor Who I have ever seen. A mash up of Pirates of the Caribbean and the Hobbit. With the campest Doctor ever. He is even more camp than John Inman or Kenneth Williams. I cant possibly take it seriously, its like a parody, a mockery a comic pantomime. The fact its gone from 12 million plus viewers down to 4 million in ten years....two thirds of the audience are gone and its going to get worse. I would be embarrassed if someone called to visit me on Christmas Day and I was caught watching a Doctor Who as bad as this one looks....and everyone thought Whitaker and Chibnall were bad...how is it possible to make something worse than that???? But they look to have managed it....

[@mattybbg6850]

As 47 year old Englishman who grew up with Dr Who, this hurts my soul.

[@richardenglish2195]

As a 42 year old near-lifelong fan, I concur. After watching the episode on Saturday night I spent most of the following day feeling intermittently angry and numb... Kind of like when a beloved pet gets run over.

[@highbornjase2412]

As a 45yo Englishman also lifelong fan bringing my kids up with Dr Who except my youngest and I did try with her on the first episode but she was bored after the first 20mins and tbh so was I so we never watched the last 2 episodes same with my eldest he watched first episode being 22 and brought up with David tennant he happens to be gay aswell so you think this is the target audience what Russel is after and he hates it aswell so sadly I a, done my sone is done and my youngest just didnt care the future sadly is dead for Dr Who and I am so sad about it they just destroying our beloved franchises 1 by 1.

[@Metzwerg74]

as a 49 year old german, who in the 80s secretly stayed up late to see dr. who when he should have slept, yes it hurts.... (dr.who was not so popular over here, so it was shown only late night)

[@matekiraly46]

Is Jack Harcness character who is bisexual hurt you too?

[@daisysunshine1324]

As a 50 year old English woman, Who’s first Dr was John Pertwee, I feel so deflated after patiently waiting a year for these episodes. My 29 year old daughter is going to give the next episode a shot, because she is hopeful that watching with her son will be their family thing as it was ours. My 23 year old son watched the first one and is now not interested. I’m very sad.

[@fsForward]

Disney's fault, I would say. MUSICAL IN DOCTOR WHO!??!?!💀😭 I was cringing more and more

[@LauraRose2000]

I disagree with basically everything in this vid and in the comments, but I want to understand those who currently hate it. But THIS? This I’m with you on. The one number with Neil doing the Spice Girls was random and weird and surreal, just like it should be! But the others in ‘Season’ 1? Wtf is that. The number in the Christmas special? No.

[@keithbk]

The UK viewership for the 3 David Tennant specials are LESS THAN HALF of the very first Jodie Whittaker episode (and Jodie ONLY went downhill after that). The average viewing numbers for the three Tennant specials are almost EXACTLY where Sylvester McCoy's average ratings were before the show was cancelled in 1989. None of the Tennant specials surpassed viewing figures for even the least-viewed Matt Smith episode, much less any of the prior David Tennant episodes. Disney dumped a TON of cash into this production and this was NOT what they wanted to see happen. Yes, this is a huge failure. This is a big-budget special effects show, not some seedy medical drama, and it is the 60th anniversary to boot. They were expecting in excess of 10 million viewers and couldn't maintain half that.

[@keithbk]

What else does this mean? Well, it means that merchandising isn't coming back. During the Jodie Whittaker era, almost all merchandising came to an abrupt halt. NO ONE WAS BUYING THE PRODUCT. During Eccleston through Matt Smith, merchandising was HUGE. You could get EVERYTHING, from toys, posters, mugs, t-shirts, comics, etc. At one point, Character Options was reporting sales of 30,000 sonic screwdrivers a day! Then came Capaldi, and merchandising sales slowed. During Jodie, they almost died completely. Toys that did come out sold in paltry numbers. Action figures wound up in deep discount bins and suppliers still cannot get rid of "Friends of the Thirteenth Doctor" action figure sets. Almost every US licensor of Doctor Who products stopped making new items (no more T-Shirts, mugs, standees, posters, etc). UK toy releases became very sporadic as well, most being exclusives through B&M. With numbers like these, the merchandise is NOT coming back, and if it does, it won't sell enough to merit full price for very long.

[@DoodleThis]

Are you sure Disney didn’t want this because I’m pretty sure this is exactly what they wanted

[@starmnsixty1209]

👍👍 to the failure of this sad piece of junk.

[@keithbk]

@@DoodleThis They wanted in excess of 10 million UK viewers and a ton of subscribers to join for this... didn't happen.

[@dragonetta1981]

This is a bridging mini series. It's not a 60th special and to be honest here in the UK they are putting more promotion into the next era of who. As for ratings, they are up on the mess chibnall made. You also can't compare 1980s ratings with 2023 ratings. Today there is more channel choice (and I had BSB here in the UK in the 80s/90s, what we now call sky TV). And as someone who owns a copy of every who story in existence (tv, film, book, comic, audio and trust me friends took the piss out of me at school for the wall of who in my family living room, where all other walls were taken up in books) nothing is new in terms of woke.

[@lancebaylis3169]

Russell T Davies ushered in a successful reboot of Doctor Who in 2005, partly by perfectly harnessing the nostalgia and respect of older fans, while subtlely updating the series to appeal to new viewers. His instincts in this regard have abandoned him in 2023, or maybe it's that he's had nearly 20 years of people telling him how well he handled it last time and it's blown his ego into the stratosphere to the point where he now thinks he can do no wrong. Watching Nucti Gutwa's Doctor dancing in a nightclub at the start of a new BBC trailer, wearing a singlet and kilt and nothing much else, it's clear that RTD has lost touch with who the lead character even is, and is instead writing some generic gay rom drama that happens to have a time travelling phone box in it. His disrespect of both Doctor Who's legacy in it's 60th anniversary year, and even his own legacy within that by bringing back David Tennant's Doctor only to shit all over it, has 'belled the cat' about how he will be proceeding with Doctor Who going forward. The only blessing is that its going to be so bad, that Doctor Who's days are now almost certainly numbered. And at this point, it deserves to be canceled again. It needs a rest, so someone new with an actual love of the I.P. can come along in a decade or two and revive it peoperly.

[@mayotango1317]

Sorry but i never feel that RTD had respect to the older fans. He make Sarah Jane a love interest.

[@glenncoody]

RTD has right and properly fucked the Dr. Who franchise, which may never recover. I've an idea: Feed all the Classic & NuWho (minus the latest rubbish; let fans be the judge) episodes into an A.I. programme. Let it write new episodes. Hell, it can't get any worse than Chinball's and Russel Tits Davies shitfest, could it?

[@lesigh1749]

Its just a crossover of all his shows, and most of his stuff was about gay blokes and nightclub culture. he just merged Doctor who into it.

[@sibergirl]

Brilliant post! I wholeheartedly agree! I hope someone who really loved the show rescues it years from now after it is inevitably canceled.

[@MarvinHartmann452]

​@glenncoody They should do exactly this with many franchises like Dr who, Star Trek, Star Wars. Maybe they will be better than anything we got since a few years.

[@Toolness1]

I love when they say "who cares if they are race swapped, gender swapped, gay, trans, etc?" They are the ones that care so much, they are so completely obsessed with identity politics they will crash entire brands and companies to push their obsession. They can't look at a person without seeing nothing but race, gender, sexual identity, etc.

[@LeonParrish-q6w]

I don't know, I might enjoy Hitler as a vlack man, or "gasp" Trans man. That certainly would seem to fit how they act. Trans, not black. The black man thing would be for the irony of it all.

[@Docktavion]

It’s all for the removal of the past hero’s and role models. To normalise the narcissists, the hedonists, the perverse. When everything is removed and replaced then everything will be “normal” .

[@fantalone666]

@@Docktavion Or maybe when people get exposed to this kind of stuff, they might eventually think not to call something narcissistic, hedonistic or perverse just because they don't understand it.

[@PaIaeoCIive1684]

Also, the current race-swapping is only pale-skinned to diverse, never the other way around. So much for 'blind casting', we know it's for diversity and inclusion.

[@Docktavion]

@@fantalone666 that’s true, look at the insistence of calling everyone “far right, nazis, sexist, phobic, misogynist, anti-vax, anti-science etc.etc”. They are all buzz words with no substance, you ask them to explain what they mean and you get mental/cognitive dissidence as they have no clue.

[@O.E.E.X]

Bro, why do they always fucking spoil shows and turn them into propaganda with bad writing. Like, if you want to spread your speech, MAKE ANOTHER SHOW instead of spoiling another

[@ZenjiT_T]

The point is they are too incompetent to do a show. So instead they put their propaganda in already loved stuff since they know a lot of people will check it. Not for long, since they ruin it, but that part does not matter.

[@victorvanvolt8425]

@@ZenjiT_T Propaganda about what?

[@isThreeman]

@@victorvanvolt8425 Artificial inclusivity, artificial diversity, and other woke nonsense. All shallow bullshit that ignores reality in favor of a twisted fantasy.

[@jeremychicken3339]

​@@victorvanvolt8425cultural Marxism.

[@victorvanvolt8425]

@@jeremychicken3339 What does cultural marxist wants to achieve?

[@vskane]

“Doctor, I let you go.” Thank you, Peter. Profound words from the final Doctor.

[@RadiuI]

the shows still going!

[@barra193]

No it isn't. @@RadiuI It died with Peter Capaldi. That's my canon and I'm sticking to it.

[@redjirachi1]

Didn't that Doctor punch a racist and fight capitalism?

[@markpiper6382]

o7 Capaldi. The series should have ended after the doctor was you.

[@MightyElemental]

"I don't want to go" all the way back in 2010 seems profetic now, like they knew it was going downhill from there :P Personally, I consider everything up to the introduction of Clara as canon. Things got pretty bad around that time. But even then, I wasn't too big a fan of Smith's first season, so I'd be happy to consider Tennant's final words as the end of the show.

[@MagyarGaben]

I love how RTD had a problem with Davros being a wheelchair user who is evil, but not with The Toymaker being a man with a thick german accent who is evil

[@the_dpad]

The Toymaker's German accent is phony, he literally gets caught faking it before the Doctor first appears in the episode.

[@itsNabez]

@@the_dpad tbh that doesn't really change the fact

[@deeznuts23yearsago]

@@itsNabezit does because it’s shown as a farce

[@itsNabez]

@@deeznuts23yearsago it's poking fun at Germans ;P

[@danielriley7380]

It’s literally pointed out in NPH’s first scene his accent is phoney and slips. The Toymaker has adopted an accent that will be unnerving.

[@mrgraham5521]

You don't have to be a doctor of psychiatry or psychology to know that " emotional baggage " literally makes us who we are. How we handle our challenges and let downs define who we are.

[@IncredibleMet]

I think you’ll find it’s what we identify as is what defines us. Unless you’re against my ideology and therefore I will define you as an -ist and a -phobe.

[@brianmurphy250]

EMOTIONAL DAMAGE

[@dogstick12]

It's how we take action in the real world...

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

Everybody hates Star Trek V but Kirk's speech about needing his pain was a good scene.

[@spongmongler6760]

it's one thing that makes us who we are of like 5 things. emotional baggage can happen in 5 different ways, itself. I'd say you don't need to be a doctor to know that but it seems you do.

[@crandom3434]

I honestly loved that they brought back David Tennant. It was fun to see him. The Bigeneration was really weird, but the 10th Doctor finally got the ending he wanted. There were a lot of things in the specials i didnt like though. The attitude they gave the doctor and telling him how he wouldnt understand because he is a "male presenting timelord". I also don't know how being non binary was important for the story. The characters gender shouldnt be important.

[@arthurhaack618]

I agree, the gender shouldn't be important. The show was making it the whole personality of the character, instead of just one aspect of the person. So weird

[@docferringer]

@@arthurhaack618 I still remember Bi Billie, only because the showrunners wouldn't stop writing it into her lines. "Hi I'm Billie and I'm bi!" Oh! Well it's a good thing you are trapped in a cave full of Roman legionnaires who are also all gay and bi for some reason that has zero affect on the plot of the episode. Who cares? The doctor is an immortal time traveler who has evolved over the years to become the fearless and feared entity that killed the Daleks and even his own species. Part of his journey is learning how to deal with that. And yet...after Capaldi the doctor became a coward that was afraid of her own shadow while still trying to play up the girl power angle. And it just keeps getting more and more about pandering rather than good storytelling. No wonder Disney picked it up.

[@arthurhaack618]

@@docferringer exactly. I am a part of the LGBT, but I don't tell people that when I introduce my self. Because it doesn't matter! I'm embarrassed by the shows pandering to queer people.

[@Allie-w1l]

I suspect they kept Tennant Doctor in a form of existence, in the show, for a reason, and he will be used to reel the fans back in when 'something happens' to Gatwa Doctor, at the end of that actor's term. Their bi-generation may result in a bond that involves Tennant when it is time for Gatwa to regenerate. That's my prediction.

[@TedEhioghae]

​@@arthurhaack618Stop calling them "queer".

[@Butler195]

You cant have Davros in a wheelchair but you can give the Toy maker a German accent????!!!!!

[@FunkThompson]

If you notice, the accent was only affected in some scenes.

[@Jjosh9424]

No RTD gave the toymaker a German accent to tell us that putting on a accent is racist to show us that he's evil he said this in the BTS

[@fukyoutubestupidfuckinghandles]

@@Jjosh9424 I find that really hard to believe. The accent shows that the character is partially motivated by his own enjoyment, he never needed to put on a funny accent but it was fun for him so did it anyway. It's nothing to do with racism as much as it just shows how little he thinks of humanity in general and this situation he's putting them in.

[@Jjosh9424]

@@fukyoutubestupidfuckinghandles you can find it hard to believe but it's quite literally what RTD said in the behind the scenes

[@Jjosh9424]

@@fukyoutubestupidfuckinghandles also the toymaker assumes where that bloke is from at the start of the episode to show that he's a racist

[@EverymanNoSix]

"And in the years to come you might find yourself revisiting a few, but just the old favourites, ay?" - A prophecy that has come to pass and taken on an entirely new meaning. With 50 years worth of stories to enjoy, we can revisit them all. The Day of the Doctor serves as a wonderful series finale for classic Who. May it rest in peace.

[@Zontar82]

that was the finale for me as well. never watched anything past it nor i intend to do

[@davidrosler5413]

50 years of repeat viewings is fine by me.

[@UnlimitedRicePudding_]

Day of The Doctor would be an awful series finale for classic Who. Now, Death Comes To Time on the other hand was a great send off for The Doctor.

[@RaymondWilliams-uu1ns]

@@Zontar82The last Doctor was Capaldi. He’s an older Doctor but he’s superb in the role. His performance in Mummy On the Orient Express was sensational and it’s an all time classic. This show will never reach those standards again.

[@EverymanNoSix]

@@UnlimitedRicePudding_ I'm not familiar with it but thanks for the recommendation. TV episodes, books, comics, Big Finish and other audio dramas: there's plenty in the archive to entertain fans for decades to come (same goes for Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel and DC). All this woke content is going to age very poorly but what came before is timeless.

[@love2win]

"By believing it, we will summon it forth" I've never seen a Progressive put it so honestly.

[@JohnJohnson-wy6fk]

And he was dead wrong too. Like most progressives about most topics. A lot of minorities see through this cheap virtue attempt and it turns everyone off. Just cheap

[@windblownleaf6450]

Belief doesn't affect reality, but sure. As the saying goes, you can ignore reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. The chickens will come home to roost.

[@glorfification]

It's a line from Seinfeld, too: "It's not a lie if you believe it!" (Pretty sure it was meant as a joke back then.)

[@marcogenovesi8570]

Manifestation, explained in a sentence

[@genuineappeal3458]

@@JohnJohnson-wy6fk Minorities want to return to mud huts.

[@moonlightdragondc]

I've never realized how spoiled I was becoming a whovian during Peter Capaldi's era. I think it's because he's a true whovian, you can see that excited fanboy in him during interviews and even on set sometimes That firey passion spread to those who worked with him and to us the audience. Jodie tried, David didn't seem to have it much compared to his 10th doctor run, and I hope Ncuti doesn't mess it up

[@Spiritasq]

It's already doomed before the main series even begins, lol. Everything that defined past Doctor Who series is being defiled, and now it's just a generic sci-fi show, nothing more broo

[@AhmedBluth]

@@Spiritasq I hated the Christmas special

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

I'm sorry, but you don't have much to hope for, my friend. Prepare for more garbage if you want to keep watching. Doctor Who is dead and burried. It died with Peter Capaldi playing the last doctor.

[@michaelhansen8959]

​@@AhmedBluthcouldn't even watch it for 5 minutes.

[@Mr.Parrishmct]

5 couldn't take it for 3 minutes horrible forced messaging

[@Griever_Plats2021]

Matt Smiths final words have been lost by RTD. Change is okay, you gotta keep moving as long as you never forget who you were. RTD has completely forgotten who the Doctor is.

[@ThatRandomFastingGuy]

My biggest issue with the 60th is it didn't feel like a celebration of 60 years.

[@Blodhelm]

More like insistence of current year.

[@moharassmi8729]

Matt smith, david tenant and early peter capaldi were the best of the show (not including 9th because he had a short run) sadly russell decided showing everyone as equal wasnt enough and decided to ruin good storywriting to annoy us showing a narrative every single frame and somehow ruining the sonic screwdriver which i thought was impossible as its just a screwdriver every time but different so they turned it into a magic ipod which solves every problem instantly

[@Film_Sushi]

You´re a male, you can´t comprehend. LOL

[@bathtub_barracuda]

I felt like I was being sandblasted in the back while watching the new Dr who show

[@redjirachi1]

Thank you, an actual reasonable complaint and not one made by right-wing grifters like Nerdrotic

[@rhysthomas1699]

When ideology is more important than art/entertainment, you know that its doomed to flop terribly. To Doctor Who fans, you deserve much MUCH better & I hope something good happens in the future.

[@mayotango1317]

Please, just watch the Malcolm Hulke stories in the 70s for left message.

[@BWolf00]

What's funny about the "ideology" vs art/entertainment...they cast a diverse black Doctor Who who represents only 3% of the British population compared to the Asian 7% and 82% white. They had already abandon the long time fan base for a female Doctor, now they usher in the era of a non-Binary Black Doctor for a production that will appeal to an even smaller demographic...all in the name of representation. Good luck with that.

[@kaijureaper61]

How come most people have been enjoying this then? I been watching the 60th anniversary special slowly and been enjoying it. At most there was one part that fell off but it all felt so nice.

[@rhysthomas1699]

@@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0000 Quentin Tarantino was talking to Bill Maher & he said that ideology now is more important than art, individual effort, good vs evil & entertainment.

[@Skitdora2010]

There were decades with no who. The show was dead to me when the female took over and Peters last season sucked too, which is why I respect him for leaving.

[@nevbarnes1034]

The problem with calling yourself "Progressive" is every time you achieve a goal, you then have to find a new goal and proceed to once again beat the rest of us to death with it. They will insist on taking us down no end of weird backwaters, and if they have their way this "progress" will be unending.

[@paulcheney3636]

You know what is wanted? More

[@CCFONESOL]

That's neoliberal, not progressive

[@olican101]

The goal has never changed. Social justice and representation for all.

[@nevbarnes1034]

@@olican101 Nothing vague or open-ended about that.

[@beeeingthisperson12343]

Yes, better things for everyone is better for everyone.

[@Nibbles69]

I used to love this show so much...now its my most hated. Well done everybody involved. 👏

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

Don't hate. When all things fail, and they always do with activists, they still take comfort in having ruined it for you and making you hate. Drinking fanboy tears, remember? Laugh at their failure. Ridicule their insanity. And above all don't watch their garbage. Just watch the Disparu reviews and others instead. Constantly remind them of their failure and how they are what they claim to fight and hate. THE BAD PEOPLE FROM GERMANY! As for the show, I think I can still stomach it up to season 9 of the new series. Never saw seasons 10 and beyond and I think I will keep it that way. AFAIC Capaldi is still the Doctor, a madman in his blue box, and this just corporate hate fiction made by bitter tumblristas.

[@RetireandGo]

Remember the phoenix These shows have to burn to ash in order to rise anew Don’t stress during this process Laugh and enjoy shows from other countries

[@curtisbryce5096]

I'm going to miss that music.

[@Rusty84CV]

​@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623you're part of the problem telling people how to feel

[@HansDester]

​@@Rusty84CVI'm pretty sure you didn't read his comment. He's actually being pretty logical on how to approach these dumpster fires. The people ruining these shows aren't the ones watching them. They just enjoy seeing others sad and angry. So by not giving them the satisfaction, you deprive them of it. So no, he's not part of the problem. Dummies that control their emotions or think logically are. You know, dummies like you.

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

Never let culture fall in the hand of activists.

[@saintuk70]

ish, never let culture fall victim of metrics and performance indicators - those set by "activists"

[@Artifex_Prudens]

it disgusts me seeing art being perverted by degenerates.

[@patmurphy817]

Again. Never again.

[@SwordofLight001]

Never let culture fall into the hands of Communist. Yeah I know it inhales hard. RIP Dr. Who.

[@GigglingStoners]

As if we have a say.

[@DB57RB]

I honestly can't believe these clips are real, they are so off the scale ridiculous it's hard to believe someone actually wrote those lines and scenes and they got made without anyone with common sense saying "this story arch is crap and the dialogue is even worse"

[@LunarSpiral1127]

Oh, it's real, and I don't think anyone with common sense worked on this show. Not anymore at least. God, Donna and Rose were spewing that nonsense was just so awful.

[@igneeldreemurr3643]

the first special was soo cringe...right after the doctor dared to assume the aliens pronouns i knew where this is going...and i thought...how did an alien even knew what pronouns mean? and why should it care? honestly when i see nowadays tv shows like this im very happy that i got born befor 2000 so i had an innocent childhood without needing to know all this stuff...

[@chestnutmouse6823]

@@igneeldreemurr3643that’s the thing about the left, they think everyone thinks like them, I guess in this case they think aliens also go along with their BS 😂

[@Fingerprint-face]

I never liked Donna anyway.

[@F_Y_F_T_Y]

Listen, I'm a gay black man and I Loved Dr who but yeah I'm over it now. I'm glad they're more concerned about pandering rather than their loyal fans. Sad

[@MatthewBretton-cu2el]

people crying because their child hood hero doesn't resemble them anymore after decades and you are crying because the same character resembles now you ... indoctrinated much lolol.

[@lelandgrubson2736]

​@@MatthewBretton-cu2el............... 🥒🤏😩

[@stokiem]

@@MatthewBretton-cu2elwhy does it matter who is represented when the story is taking a hit due to it? This is the issue with the culture war, those who want ‘representation’ generally do not care about it being a quality product

[@zero.Identity]

@@MatthewBretton-cu2el the character, should only portray what is true to the character. if you suddenly become fake, other people also wouldnt like it.

[@ingreedzz5204]

​@@MatthewBretton-cu2elu either live in america or ur terminally online that had never once enjoy a good story

[@Matt10124]

Doctor Who gave me 10 great seasons during my childhood and teens. Those memories will never be taken away. RIP Doctor Who.

[@operationorigins4714]

Good news! The show returns this Christmas 😎

[@OverWims]

@@operationorigins4714 no it doesn't. Whatever is coming out this Christmas is not "Doctor Who"

[@asterixandobelix195]

​@@operationorigins4714 And? So what? Their viewership is department. Not liberals like you, of course...😂😂

[@asterixandobelix195]

​@@operationorigins4714 Perhaps you could have summoned all this energy to save the Marvels. Oh well...

[@operationorigins4714]

@@asterixandobelix195 that Marvel shite? I haven’t watched any McU project since IM3

[@sodreir.8666]

As a Star Wars, Lord of the Rings enjoyer, I give my condolences to the Doctor Who community.

[@timeflys3248]

As a fan of all three. Doctor who was hit the hardest.

[@Red_Devil_2011]

@@timeflys3248I don't watch Dr Who, but I guess so. The franchises are like three useless woke ideologues trying out-do each other. Woke Star Wars: "This show has too many men. If you don't like my Mary Sue, then you're a sexist!" Woke LoTR: "This show has too many white people. If you don't like my Mary Sue, and the fact that I hate white people in fantasy, then you're a racist!" Woke Doctor Who: "Bruh, my Doctor is now an ex-woman bi-regenerated gay black man born from a penis, and we told his past white self that he knows nothing. Britain was black, and if it wasn't, then it *should* have been. The future is black and gay. Omg fans, why do you care?"

[@filmneek]

Lord of the rings is essentially untouched. Rings of power didn’t do that much damage. Star Wars and DR Who however, sheesh.

[@mostly-just_comments-and-]

​@@Red_Devil_2011 the Dr was pretty funny

[@InAHollowTree]

Thanks, but condolences aren’t needed. I still love the show as I always have.

[@RagingEggs]

Just bought the complete series on DVD even though i haven't seen one episode. Wanted to save it before they erased the original from memory.

[@JohnDavidSullivan]

Bought the 2005 series 1-4 on bluray. Will get matt Smith, maybe the first two of capaldi and get the old ones. That's all I need

[@randombsgo4367]

@@JohnDavidSullivan TorchWood has its moments, but everyone dies! Except DW cameo/new recruit

[@soelvfaks1]

@@JohnDavidSullivan you need Eccleston too! He left but he was a good doctor.

[@Shagnasty1956]

Excellent idea, I will do the same. I expect the British Bolshevik Corporation to destroy all episodes pre 2017, due to them containing hate speech, and being “Off MESSAGE “

[@emilyrockett1774]

​@@soelvfaks1Eccleston comes with the series 1-4 collection. He's series 1.

[@rainbowmashpotato]

I am a real woman!! Please hire me as a writer of Doctor Who so I can make the timeless children a fever dream of Jodie Whitaker’s doctor while held captive and let’s do it all over again

[@alkeryn1700]

i'd rather make capaldi wake up from a bad dream lol.

[@trenton8211]

Please take this competent women and make her a shpwrunner

[@Steelebourne]

I remember how incredibly powerful Capaldi's "I WILL NOT CHANGE" was, as he fought his regeneration by pounding into the snow. Looking back on that, you could kind of use that moment as foreshadowing....

[@TheOriginalSourceRPG]

Indeed! he was right all along XD

[@popot4627]

My headcanon is that he was the final Doctor

[@Steelebourne]

@@popot4627Same here.

[@soulsurvivor8293]

Dude in the video labelled his run as "Diminishing returns", utter slander against a legendary Doctor.

[@ultrademigod]

@@popot4627 It's not your headcanon, it's the official Doctor Who canon. Timelords can only regenerate 12 times, making 13 in total, meaning Capaldi WAS the last doctor, and no retconning will change what the creators of the show intended.

[@keithbk]

Think about it... only 5.08 million people watched this show. We're talking about the return of the most popular modern Doctor, David Tennant, and 2/3 of his original audience didn't even show up. More than 100,000 hated it so much, they wrote angry letters to the BBC. By the third special, 400,000 couldn't be bothered to watch the regeneration episode to see the new Doctor. And Davies mentioned that MILLIONS were being poured into this new Doctor Who, "more money than he has ever had to work with." You're going to pour millions more into something, you're going to expect a BIGGER return than before... but nope, it fizzled. And it is ONLY downhill from here. There is ZERO hype right now.

[@jothecocopop]

In the same way Disney doesn’t fork out $250-300M on a movie just to break even, the BBC didn’t bring Catherine Tate, David Tennant and RTD back just to get 5M overnight viewers.

[@KoizumiASMR]

you seem to be forgetting that most viewers now watch via streaming services. that 5.08 million ONLY includes live tv from bb1, not including iplayer, disney plus or any other services that stream doctor who to their country.

[@The_Cosmic_Yog-Sothoth]

Every time someone mentions David Tennant I will mention that he sucked as the Doctor. *R.I.P. Doctor Who (1963 - 1989).*

[@marychocolatefairy]

@@KoizumiASMR The streaming doesn't matter because it's being compared to the British audience numbers that other Doctors had. For example, when Jodie was Doctor and had similar numbers, the media reported it as being low viewership. And let's note that after Jodie, because of the low viewership, the show was actually going to be canceled until RTD stepped in. Plus, Doctor Who is a beloved British institution, and I for one would have expected a bigger surge there for the return of the most popular NuWho Doctor.

[@KoizumiASMR]

@@marychocolatefairy Once again, streaming wasnt as popular back then even in jodies time people still mostly watched it live on tv and not streamed. With the disney+ deal a very large chunk of people have moved to streaming.

[@mattcarper9853]

Dr Who fans did NOT deserve to be treated like this. I mean, out of all the vandalized fandoms, this one really hurts to watch happen.

[@cherryfireice8216]

Can we talk about the Rings of Power over some 100 proof cocktails.

[@richardallen6066]

This one was particularly egregious..

[@personthatexist739]

I loved this show, I’m gonna miss the days we’re I was excited to watch it.

[@MarvinHartmann452]

​@@cherryfireice8216That was atrocious. We don't talk about the ring of power. We don't think about the ring of power The ring of power doesn't exist.

[@SergeantButters]

@@cherryfireice8216 the rings of power is to lord of the rings what the starving games is to the hunger games. spinoff parody

[@sebastianiosif2156]

In the last season of The Doctor Who, the main actor is gay, he's a guy who always gets scared, isn't that the real doctor, the action is for children, we talk about pronouns, everything is crazy, where are the old adventures? I'm not racist, but I'm tired of good series being destroyed by the "culture war". What happened to the directors of today?

[@ConsulYeti]

Wow.. that wasn't a parody. That whole thing about "binary" and "pronouns" was seriously part of the script. May God help us all.

[@mistafay]

That was a parody. I can't believe KZbinrs still take critics seriously!

[@IllisiaAdams]

God doesn't care about television. Don't be silly.

[@ConsulYeti]

@@mistafay If that was all parody then I'm impressed. They did a hell of a CGI job with that whole "are you he, she or they?" Looked SO REAL!!

[@ConsulYeti]

@@IllisiaAdams I was speaking to the degenerate level of entertainment which reflects the culture of our civilization, which history has shown leads to well.. look it up! In any event. God help us all from THAT, which sadly I fear it's too late.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

Nerdrotic does not have CGI elves to do parodies, this is from the actual show. Welcome to the future old man

[@keithrobinson5752]

What did anyone expect, RTD made it very clear the only thing that matters is pushing the ' message ' and a big FU to the fans. Add Disneys amazing ability to make endless dumpster fires, and you got such a mix so toxic it could kill people at 1000 miles 😮

[@MarvinHartmann452]

Our overlords from the WEF call this "forced behaviour" but don't believe me, look it up.

[@Yesica1993]

And yet people kept tuning in! And they still will!

[@michaelwills1926]

@@Wolf_ManJackyou’re not getting it. The point is that the agenda be advanced, the tools and fools who do the grunt work aren’t the decision makers. The more important point is that people are wise to the bullsht now.

[@DoodleThis]

I thank Doctor Who for helping me get through college and some rough times in my life. Matt Smith will always be my favorite Doctor and I’m so glad he was spared. The activists can have the series now.

[@michaelquaid4679]

Me too. Bow tie is MY guy

[@andreeturnet5332]

The last doctor really. The writing after that was abysmal.

[@AdventuringwithTrevor]

@@andreeturnet5332peter capaldi had some good moments but the show ended with him for me

[@akodaah13-e32]

Also the 12th. Say what you want about the stories, but D A M N, that doctor was FANTASTIC. I leaned a lot from him and he will always be my doctor. 10 is also a big favorite and i loved his dinamic with donna in the 4th season. He also had G O O D stories, like midnight, waters of mars, the girl in the fireplace, human nature/family of blood, etc. But MAN, it would have been sublime that the series ended with the 12th doctor. A beautifully tragic ending, but fitting for a character like the doctor

[@michaelquaid4679]

@@akodaah13-e32 I give credit where it's due. And CAPALDI gave some of the best inspiring or maybe gut-wrenching speeches. Truly a great actor. He just needed better stories

[@Ian-h5t]

2:56 i can understand the dr recognizing aliens may not hold the same gendered terms but i do feel like there was stuff they threw in that felt out of place and just there to be there.

[@DavidCharpentierBuzano]

Capaldi was the last doctor, and all this time we had been in denial, if they want to do something different I would be happy to watch "Clara and me in the restaurant at the end of the universe"

[@SpaceOddity4214]

Notice how every doctor after Capaldi, had good memory after regenereating.... I say they are a figment of his imagination and he's really in a coma or something.

[@KingdomHeartsFan-mu9cf]

I liked the 60th Anniversary Specials… but I’d still watch the hell out of this. I miss Clara and 12.

[@danielnagag4572]

How I HONOR You! Jodie Whittaker was a poor Doctor not because she was a woman, but because she couldn't portray Doctor's character. Unfortunately, with her came the degeneration of the brand. And the rotten cherry on top of this cake made of expired cream, Surströmming and Hakarl is that they made yeast out of the Doctor. And why? Well, because yeast reproduces by partitioning. So, as the classic said: "Silence over that coffin."

[@therandomscout6590]

I don't discredit you but Capaldi was hated on his debut too.

[@thanosandnobill3789]

Doctor Who re-invented itself after 16 years of hiatus (1989-2005) I believe this is the time to cancel it again and bring it back maybe 10-15 years later. My father grew up with the original, I grew up with 2005 Doctor Who (till 2016), and I hope my kids will have the same opportunity in 2035+

[@IllisiaAdams]

It isn't going anywhere. Ratings are still decent.

[@thanosandnobill3789]

@@IllisiaAdams The ratings are exactly the same now as used to be in 1989.

[@luisramirez-ut8vh]

Funded by UK taxpayers and now Disney. It’s not going anywhere.

[@brookse746]

fuck no

[@mayotango1317]

Yeah, many say the same about that in 2006.

[@fenrir607]

I stood in front of a statue depicting a great hero. He was a legendary hero, greater than life, and I remember being awestruck by the greatness the statue managed to exert. But when I looked at it, I saw that the statue had been vandalized. Some cruel hands had chiseled, painted, and bent the statue until it was unrecognizable. I began to weep, and a child asked me why I was crying. I told the child it was because of the statue. Such a great and noble thing had been destroyed, and it saddened me. The child asked me why would such a thing upset me. It is but a statue after all. And I told the child that it represented such great and beautiful things, greater and more beautiful than anyone could imagine, and now no one will experience it ever again. And the child will never get the chance to glimpse it either.

[@catgirl9535]

What you have written there is so beautiful.

[@Red_Devil_2011]

The child will never understand the importance of this metaphorical statue, nor the statues of real people getting torn down in the name of progress all over the west.

[@pinball8701]

Wonderful text there. Summarizes what the woke cultural barbarians have done. Erased our cultural past and ruined our present and future.

[@bill-nolastnamesupplied-958]

" Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand, Half sunk, a shattered visage lies," - Ozymandias by P. B. Shelley

[@prividinc]

Honestly, the real problem for the show is that it seems to be playing more to an American audience, and the general dumbing down of certain things in the series. Disney? There is a great chance that it will ruin the show... I said what I said... I love the show, but weep for the Americanisation of it.

[@morrisklunder519]

The worst part is, most of the American Audience doesn't want this either. We already watched this happen to starwars and startrek and Marvel studios. I mostly watch youtube now when I was an avid movie and tv watcher in the past. My 1st reaction to the end of the female doctor was hope it might get better. Then I started hearing quotes from interviews about the new doctor and that hope died.

[@RJhobbs99]

I'm not a Dr Who fan but my brother is. And he's a die-hard whovian. When I tell you he's pissed, it's the understatement of the year. My brother and I don't talk much but he's been blowing my phone up over all this like never before. I think I've talked to him more in the last couple weeks than I have in the last couple years.

[@BryBurger]

As a Star Wars, MCU, DCU, LotR, Witcher fan... I offer my condolences to the Doctor Who fans! 😪

[@ongunguvenc]

Thank you. It's so painful to watch the latest episodes.

[@herimen3153]

I don't accept them , I enjoyed the specials 😃👍

[@ongunguvenc]

@@herimen3153 Honestly I feel like Tennant came back as a nostalgia bait, and the last episode should have been longer. Anyways, I take Capaldi as my last Doctor for now.

[@ocularcavity8412]

I was a fan of all these properties and this just proves Tolkien's words true "Evil doesn't create it only CORRUPTS and DESTROYS"

[@bjtster]

As I turn 60 I grew up on Dr Who - Tom Baker era was clearly the best for me - the reboot in 2005 I thought was also very good - now its woke joke and such a pity the legacy of Dr Who has now been destroyed for future generations

[@craigpimlott204]

The best of the drs was finished after Baker .I lost interest after that never watched it since apart from short glimpses and that was enough for me .

[@Blobby192]

i lost interest when baker left the show in 85

[@MrBannystar]

@@Blobby192 Sorry to be a pedant, but Baker (Colin) left in 86.

[@Darkstar-se6wc]

@@JohnDrewDesigner- PBS channel WTTW in Chicago used to show Dr. Who on Sunday nights, after Monty Python and either Dave Allen or The Two Ronnies, back in the day.

[@MrBannystar]

@@JohnDrewDesigner Are you sure that reply was intended for me? If so, I'm sorry to say that your efforts writing that post were wasted as my knowledge of the programme is encyclopaedic. And if it was intended for me, I'm genuinely perplexed as to why you didn't think I was aware of any of that information.....

[@michaelhansen8959]

Doctor Who was British, geeky and for nerds? For what audience is this crap 😅 Im gonna re-watch the old good stuff. This is a insult, juvenile and dumb political nonsense. This generation of film destroys everything.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Hollywood is dying as a whole.

[@seekeroftruth9200]

And that’s a good thing

[@SleepyCyborg66]

True, but it’s been like that for a while tho…

[@Teajryan]

Good riddance

[@williampotter2098]

Yes. We began to get a hint of it a few years ago when all of the awards programs began to have uneducated actors trying to school us on politics during their speeches. Slowly films had to have a woke bent to be noticed. Finally the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences put a rule in that to be eligible for an award, films would have to meet their percentage of every minority and diversity possible. No diversity to meet their demands, which had nothing to do with art, no award. Now, any film that is eligible for an award, isn't worth watching. It is propaganda rather than art. Thankfully I can find thousands of older movies and TV shows that are excellent and are artistic ... or at least entertaining when that's what my brain needs.

[@willpower8061]

Its been dead, the whole thing is in zombie mode.

[@claytonrios1]

Maybe gatekeeping wasn't about discriminating against people for things they can't control. Maybe it was about protecting the integrity of the franchise after all...

[@claytonrios1]

@@neutraliserjanine Stephanie Meyer? You do realize how many people mock the Twilight series right?

[@zerosen1972]

The only ones complaining about Gatekeeping being bad are the ones the gate is supposed to keep OUT.

[@claytonrios1]

@@zerosen1972 It's not about keeping women and minorities out right? It's about keeping those who destroy good stories out.

[@spadedust24]

@@neutraliserjanine There can be people of diverse in the back ground without being main characters. So basically anyone that isn't white needs to be background characters. Okay...

[@DaMaster012]

​@@claytonrios1They use women and non-whites as trojan horses to infiltrate and destroy it from within. Women in general only try to infiltrate make spaces to make them arbor themselves and keep their gynocentric gritty going, because if men have their own spaces and hobbies, they might realize they have a right to exist for their own sake and not merely for the sake of women.

[@Gaia1054]

The timeless child causes so many plot wholes and writing issues it amazes me they don’t just act like it never happened and move on. It completely removes all tension from any scene where the doctor could die. Undoes the 11th doctors final episode(that being that he only has one life left and will spend it defending trenzalore) and so much more. It is the “jump the shark” moment of Dr. Who and as long as it’s canon it will forever harm the brand of Dr who

[@lesigh1749]

Well it WAS the Jumping the shark moment, unti bi-generation happened. Now according to RTD every past doctors regeneration became bi-generation and the old doctors didnt die as the new ones appeared, and all past canon is now set loose and undefined. Chibnall changed canon back to the first minute of the show in 1963 and damaged it beyond repair. RTD has erased canon, completely, now only head canon matters and each viewer can make up whatever they want. I dont think theres any way to come back from that.

[@CameronKiesser]

Yep, it removes tension, and it removes the reward of the Doctor cheating his way out with bonus regenerations from the Timelords or something. The Bi-generation also removes the bittersweet goodbye of a Doctor and the surprise and time to shine for the new one.

[@NAPainter]

Can't the doctor still die? Like The doctor could still be killed mid-generation and killed off. It was the over arching plot point of a whole season(6?). unless I missed something from the new series in which case I'm sorry.

[@FlakeRabbit]

@@lesigh1749 when did he say that every past regeneration was a bi-regeneration, i hope he didnt because otherwise that would be a major fuckup

[@admiralshadowofasunderedst3068]

​@flakeomlet he only said it was his head canon, but it's not actual canon

[@fideliselan]

It will be cancelled within one season. The fans are gone, the "modern audience" is a myth, and will not watch the show. I hope it was worth it for that sweet DEI score from Blackrock...

[@MMOfreakOUT1]

Do people still watch it? I know people who used to watch it a lot, but I didn't know that there was still people bothering with it..

[@dannyjaye]

Donna: “It’s a shame you’re not a woman anymore, cos she’d have understood.” The whole audience looking at “Rose” : well, neither is he, so….? 😂😂😂

[@sem-zs3nl]

Gotta just get a little bit of transphobia in there haven't you...

[@omorto83]

@@sem-zs3nl”say hello to captain winky” Ace Ventura

[@LeonParrish-q6w]

​@sem-zs3nl Ah, yes, transphobia. A made up word, created by fake men and woman in an effort to insult the mentally stable in an effort to bring about compliance. A phobia, on the other, actually is a mental health issue, and that would make you an Abliest. Insensitive to those who actually suffer from phobias.

[@PhantomC027]

​@@sem-zs3nl Well by definition... No Rose is not a woman. A woman is (according to Oxford Languages definition) of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes.

[@dredd1981]

@@sem-zs3nl lol, phobia? No one is scared of a 25 year old man masquerading as a 15 year old girl 🤣

[@druidkhan6066]

Fans of Star Wars, Star Trek, LOTRs, Terminator, GOTs, Witcher, MCU, Pixar, Disney... we are gathered here to pay our respects to Dr Who.

[@HOTD108_]

Doctor Who has been dead for like a decade bro, keep up lol.

[@HOTD108_]

​@@outersketcher2237Yeah, Snyder totally ruined Batman. Good thing Matt Reeves saved it recently!

[@kasun_jayawardana]

F

[@PhilippusPistor]

Star Trek? Seriously? I guess you must have been outraged when Uhura (who wasn't a maid either) kissed Kirk, when Jadzia kissed another woman, when there was a Russian and a Japanese serving as officers on the Enterprise, when they criticised racism in Let That Be Your Last Battlefield, when... My point is that Star Trek and hell, all these others franchises, have always been against bigotery and fascism.

[@davidrosler5413]

God bless you. Very nice sentiment. We appreciate it and return our condolences in-kind to everyones persinal favorite franchises.

[@thomashauguel6811]

How prophetic was it that the 12th Doctor's last words were, "Doctor, I let you go." 😢 Oh well, I have a lot of the original Doctor Who on DVD or Blu-Ray, and all of the modern Who through Capaldi (not all the 12th Doctor was woke or bad) on Blu-Ray. That's how I will choose to remember the show.

[@crowleyvoltaire5864]

For me the prophetic/4th wall breaking line was "I don't want to do this anymore" uttered by old guy companion in the Rosa Parks episode. Me either buddy...me either...

[@ChainedFei]

Capaldi is where the collapse began, but you're right, not all of it was bad. I liked the Clara arc, and the episode after her death is probably one of the best episodes of Dr. Who ever produced period.

[@shadoukingu3730]

Capaldi's doctor had some really bad moments but I also think it may have had the best moments as well. It was such an up and down. The Zygone war speech from Capaldi may arguably be the best moment in the whole show. Him trapped in the confession dial I personally think was one of the most simple sequences in the show but also one of the most well written and emotional when the reveal happens.

[@thomashauguel6811]

@@shadoukingu3730 Agreed on all points. "Heaven Sent" was an awesome episode with a simple premise that really paid off. Hell Bent was a good follow-up to it.

[@ronihoonanyan6123]

Your video was the exact words in my mind... English in my 3ed language and I learned it 2006 because of doctor who... And after i watch last 3 episodes I was messed up for a month... They ruined the best movie and series franchise and that's very sad...😓

[@mallyxtheunyielding7212]

As a former star wars fan all I can say to the Whovians is...I am so sorry for your loss

[@carolinetaylor5594]

Star Wars, Star Trek and Doctor Who. We have nothing left. 😭

[@Andrew-gd6jb]

Great time to pick up a hobby while Hollywood drowns.

[@catgirl9535]

Thank you from our hearts to yours

[@romanticrose6822]

​@@carolinetaylor5594And Lord of the Rings too 😭

[@carolinetaylor5594]

@@romanticrose6822 yes very true.

[@seanpurvis7236]

I'm not kidding, that ending with capaldi and "rip dr who" brought a tear to my eye. Over a decade of some of the best memories, now overshadowed by the death of the show. It's like losing someone so very dear to you. 50 years of progress to bring the very best of entertainment now has had a radioactive 💩 upon it. When I go to watch Matt smith again, the old david Tennant episodes, the Baker and pertwee era or just any doctor who before 2017 I feel at peace, I feel comfort, I feel entertained and time well spent. Once the end credits roll, the world comes crashing down again, the knowledge that all that I have watched has been completely annihilated. What tears me up the most is the show won't be remember that much for the 50yrs of progress. No, it will be remembered for its agonising, torturous death. I'll say it one more time. RIP Doctor Who

[@jessica_7474]

It’s not dead, a new episode came out a few days ago, a new episode is coming out in a couple of weeks! Try it, you might be pleasantly surprised

[@charleshowarth1]

Capaldi's gravitas in that 5 second segment eclipses everything that followed it for 7 years. RIP indeed.

[@kaijureaper61]

Nah it's remembered fondly and been hearing good things from this special These KZbin channels are literally the only place I've seen claim "Dr Who is ruined" all while st the same time, I've been seeing fans complain about these exact KZbin channels

[@sibergirl]

I completely agree with you. I know that there are things far worse in the world to be sad about. But this show brought so much joy to my family. We would have endless conversations about it. My kids would cosplay as characters to DragonCon in Atlanta. We were able to escape the craziness of the world, and just enjoy an imaginary story with madman in a box. And they just recklessly, killed it! Damn right, I shed a few tears! But worse, they destroyed it using one of the very best Doctors there ever was. It really is a knife in the back.😢

[@UncleEarl97]

To your commenters replying… they must be part of the activist crowd, the 5% of the population who Might actually watch this current crap masquerading as Dr Who garbage. No! I don’t believe in intentionally marginalizing men, and straight people. Funny thing is those kinds of movies are flopping left and right, losing a ton of money too. Go throw your money at that entertainment garbage, I’ll save my money for real entertainment, not for political or ret-con crap with The Message.

[@brundelfly1]

Hearing RTD's asinine comments at multiple awards ceremonies along with the recent embarrassing ad-hominem when confronted with his own hypocrisy on social media, I'm at a loss to understand how this is the same man previously capable of writing entertaining and intelligent drama. It's not even a case of disagreeing with his opinions; the way in which he expresses them comes across as though he's mentally challenged.

[@Simon-xc5oy]

I wonder if its got anything to do with his work after Doctor Who...not all of it was a great success and his gay dramas or whatever they were got very low viewing figures and no acclaim from the general public. I am starting to think he went back to Doctor Who not to save it, but to turn it into the same thing those dramas were, but on a show on main stream prime time with a larger audience potential. The BBC thought he was going to improve things and bring the numbers and popularity back, but his agenda is going to continue to drive people away.

[@lordthorpe2642]

You mean "Assine" surely 😂. He cannot separate his work from his personal life.

[@brundelfly1]

@@Simon-xc5oy He's certainly chosen to bring his preoccupations with him to Who this time. It's A Sin didn't do too badly commercially and very well critically so he might be riding a wave of progressive hubris rather than making up for perceived failings. Thing is, he's been writing gay comedic dramas for 30 years, which makes it all the more baffling why his recent comments and the way his DW scripts deal with the issues come across like he's a confused old man desperately trying to pander and getting it all embarrassingly wrong.

[@markenetube]

@@Simon-xc5oy Very interesting take. Almost the way female writers often writen themselves into the story.

[@Simon-xc5oy]

The show I was talking about was that one that was on late at night..yes it was Its a Sin and that other drek about cucumbers and toffee or whatever it was called. I just think that he has decided the time is now right and the political will is there to accept his strong gay message etc being put in what is a childrens / family show. To go out to a far larger mainstream audience. Who will turn it off as they dont agree with or like to see that in their entertainment. And all that nonsense with him changing Davros etc when he was the one who brought him back to the show when he first was writing it. He just seems to have lost all touch with what is acceptable to most people because he has been writing the gay dramas for so long, what is normal for him is not normal for most other people. And why he is so bitter and wants to upset long term fans is truly upsetting. They are the reason he brought the show back in 2005! Without those fans it would not have been around for 60 years! And he was one of them. He is not that old either. He is hardly 70 something and walking with a cane...Its like he has been brainwashed or is a totally different person to what he was...he just comes across as an extremist now, where before he seemed to be more moderate and was on the side of those older fans, bringing the show back, getting the Daleks in and the right actors and trying to make the best modern version of the classic show he could. Thats all out the window now, its just agenda galore ....

[@shedshow1439]

Motorized wheelchair does not necessarily mean better wheelchair. When your upper half works, you tend to want to use it. Maybe I’m just being woke

[@trenton8211]

I don't understand why she stands sometimes

[@vinnynj78]

Oh, the stunned silence in that theater when Tom Baker's voice boomed from off screen. A pin drop would have sounded deafening. Truly a moment in time now lost like tears in the rain. RIP Doctor Who.

[@mala6238]

Great reference 👌

[@brendano4196]

We know history isn't to our liking, so by lying we can summon forth a new better society. The arrogance with a dollop of self righteousness that these people possess is extremely annoying.

[@Rakshiir]

I remember a time when looking at the history, even or especially the ugly stuff was held in high regards. Looking at facts, learning from mistakes. I kind of like this idea to be frank. Showing history not how it was but how you would like it is a dangerous path, because everyone has a different idea of what it "should" be. That is also an insult to the actual humans who did great things if you miss represent them. Imagine showing the "I have a dream" speech and having a white actor do it. Doesn't feel right. Similarly showing a historical figure that was white as a person of color just doesn't feel right. Facts should not be changed. Especially since I think showing it and talking in a respectful way how you could improve things has way more meaning then showing something wrong and claiming that's how it should be.

[@SamuelBlack84]

If you censor history, then you ignore its lessons and will inevitably repeat past mistakes

[@ChildOfTheFlower]

Doctor Who died after Capaldi, his last words perfectly said it, "Doctor, I let you go". We can let him go and wonder into the night on the Tardis going off on all those endless adventures.

[@Vidyut_Gore]

We know everything. And you know nothing. RIP Donna Noble, the chaotic and awesome temp.

[@ronaldwilson1031]

I’ve stepped into a new mindset: all of my favorite shows and movies haven’t been “ruined.” They’re all still there (I’m watching Babylon 5 for the 10th time right now). We just have to get used to the idea that anything with the same name is really just slash fiction written by activist losers begging us to care. We don’t.

[@donkeysunited]

A blu-ray version of Babylon 5 was released a few days ago.

[@jasonmoquin]

B5….one of the very best sci-fi stories ever told. Not just because of the special effects, but its character development was incredible.

[@asdisskagen6487]

That's a great way of looking at it. I have pretty much drawn a line; anything made after about 2016(ish) is bordering on woke garbage, and so I tend to stick with shows made earlier than that.

[@Yesica1993]

I love B5!

[@MrBentham22]

There is only 12 Doctors. Capaldi is the last. They can enjoy their fan fiction.

[@ChonkLantern]

13

[@Mattis06]

@@ChonkLanternwar doctor?

[@ChonkLantern]

@Mattis06 Whitaker. My favorite doctor

[@dontemorgan1517]

Fans: "Well congrats yourself, Russell. You not only ruin your own legacy and respect, but also lost your well established fans and embarrassed David. All because of the agenda you think you believe in to pander to a group of people that don't care or won't watch. Was it worth it?" Russell T. Davies:....."Yes." 😁

[@snorristurluson5849]

Casa Bonita South Park reference?

[@treader3126]

It isn't like Davies hasn't done this in the past, its just turned it up to 11 for the New Nu Who reboot. I assume it will chill at a bit as the new series begins.

[@orchNEStra]

Most of the well established fans that were even still around were out when the Timeless Child happened, but if any were still hanging on, they're gone now.

[@Creadeyh]

Don't think Tennant has been unknowingly embarrassed, he's fully on board with this shit. I thought those 2 guys were the ones to respect the series' past the most, it's a shame what they've become. I'll still enjoy what has been done in the past but now I've lost all respect for them

[@starvr]

@@orchNEStra I was out when Tennent left, never watched another episode.

[@aterriblething9760]

For all these fake ass Whovians who are complaining that RTD made Doctor who too "woke", I suggest you go back and watch the Green Death from 1973.

[@neutrino2211_]

"Emotional baggage" Really?!! That's why I love the doctor. A person that has lived for the longest time, with vastly more experience and knowledge than his adversaries and supporters, all the loss, grief and mistakes he made, he has to live with all that and keep moving forward because he understands that if he stops, evil wins. "Emotional baggage"

And that is true Message lost on these fools now days. You cannot just drop your past, the pain, the trauma. You learn to live with and keep moving forward, you find a way to use it to motivate you, to empower you, to make you better. But these current fools think you can only wallow in it or forget it. That is not how people work, and those who do function that way are broken people who need to fix themselves instead of "fixing" the world around them.

[@MahouShoujoTomato]

That's their way of saying "Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to." :/

[@marychocolatefairy]

Yeah- what these current "identity first!" writers fail to understand is that most people don't relate to characters based on color shades or sexuality, but rather based on the characters' actions and experiences.

[@watch-Dominion-2018]

many Native Britons and Irish have been raised to be "open-minded", "tolerant", and passive. The result is our own imminent extinction

[@manoz6194]

Don't forget altruism, it's being used against you

[@everyman66]

Bingo. Happened when the EEC became the EU and kids were told they were European not Irish.

[@genuineappeal3458]

well...they did convince you that you saved the world twice...at least we're not speaking German

[@Satsujin1]

It´s so infuriating to see the DELIGHT these hacks take in destroying something people love just out of spite

[@pinball8701]

Yes they love it, they enjoy our pain and suffering. They are cultural trolls.

[@keiranoshea6748]

​@@pinball8701What an absolute drama queen. It's a show get over yourself 😂😂😂😂😂

[@pinball8701]

@@keiranoshea6748 It is important. RTD has said that it's important to him. Don't pretend it's trivial. If it were so trivial why would they bother doing it? And RTD does enjoy fan baiting i.e. trolling- it's pretty clear from the interviews, old chap.

[@limbytes]

Yea it is sad indeed. Canonically for me, I have The Husband of River Song as my ending. Or if I’m feeling a sad ending, The Doctor Falls where the Doctor says “Pity, No stars. I thought there would be stars…” and stop it there as his final act of heroism.

[@gamerboiiiiiii]

For me DW ended after capaldis speach, we cut to his regeneration and it intensifies, obscuring his face as the show ends

[@garym6315]

I'm done with it, and I'm proud of you and AZ for walking away too. I gave up on the show in 2016 but have always kept an eye on the news, clips, reviews, etc. But no more. There is only so much you can take of your favourite show being violated and torn asunder.

[@duppyconqueror6210]

Cry some more.

[@chazo1367]

Lol they will be back to watch the next one. They either watch it multiple times to make these videos which is sad already, or they don’t and talk shit which is even sadder.

[@lesigh1749]

@@chazo1367 How's your copium doing with that 4.6 million audience number there Chaz? You get a blip for Christmas day, and next year Ncuti is going to try and take Jodies' crown for the lowest audience ever. Can he/they/them do it? Don't tune in and find out!

[@certanmike]

As a US fan that spent time and money to go to the doctor who experience I am so sad to see how far this show has fallen

[@mayotango1317]

Or you change.

[@kendaar9002]

I keep wishing we ended with Capaldi's run. He have the best version of the ancient time lord following on from Matt Smith holding that same vibe hidden under a childish mask. In Capaldi's last episode I could feel how tired the time lord was, just wanting to finally stop after over a millennia of running, but "one more lifetime couldn't hurt". After that they needed to bring their A game, that episode could have been a perfect send of for the show in my eyes so they needed to make the future season perfect to earn the right to keep going on. Instead they dragged it all through the mud, burning the fans, destroying the characters and tainting my favourite send off with their filth. Losing Star Wars was painful, but nothing they have done has felt like such an assault as this.

[@caovuquang4667]

I'm dying when he said: "sir Isaac Newton wasn't white".

[@SamuelBlack84]

Neither was jesus 😄

[@anuraagbanerjee3459]

@@SamuelBlack84 Neither was Hitler 😉

[@satina1169]

@@SamuelBlack84 but Martin luther King was white

[@barnabusdoyle4930]

I still love the hidden message of saying that Davros being in a wheelchair and evil would make people think that all people in wheelchairs are evil; then making an alien who argues with you about pronouns and makes that alien turn out to be evil. How was I the only one to see the hidden message?

[@vinnynj78]

You are thinking logically. Logic escapes the perpetually triggered.

[@ch-ju4iw]

Hidden message ? ? ? BULLSHIT IS BULLSHIT ....YOU WANT TO WATCH THIS JUNK .... FINE ....JUST ASK HOW LONG WILL WHO LAST NOW ....WE KEPT IT FOR 55 YEARS BEFORE THIS GARBAGE TURNED UP .....LETS SEE HOW LONG THIS GOES ON FOR

[@ch-ju4iw]

@@vinnynj78 AND when YOUR fav shows get blown up ...IM SURE YOU WILL SAY ....OH WELL ....MUST NOT GET TRIGGERED MUST WE

[@joea3381]

How dare you bring logic into the house of God. Blasphemy I say.

[@john2940]

Argues with you about pronouns? I think you need to rewatch the episode without letting your emotions cloud your judgement, mate. You're so triggered, you're making fanfiction in your head to be mad about. ❄️❄️❄️

[@canadablake]

My mother would have been 90 years old this year, and was the biggest Dr. Who fan I’ve ever known. She would have absolutely hated this.

[@southernstar4353]

Rip mom you were a real one

[@nathandts3401]

Was she a racist?

[@alanrockunited]

Who cares

[@ocularcavity8412]

I am glad they didn't ruin it when she could have see it

[@southernstar4353]

@@alanrockunited why are you here nerd

[@amanul_2474]

In Doctor Who you can tell a character is brilliant or beautiful because the script will mention it no less than 30 times a minute

[@jonathanallison3512]

not only have they killed it they now have goblins dancing on the grave....

[@Will_Parker]

A buddy of mine was obsessed with Who for the longest time, he's not a culture war kind of guy, he doesn't care. But he dipped halfway through Capaldis run and never looked back. It's kind of pathetic how it lost such a huge fan like him.

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

I gave up at Matt Smith, honestly.

[@TheAngryKilljoy]

I was such a big fan that I got a Doctor Who tattoo to celebrate the 50th anniversary but pretty much dipped out during the Capaldi era as well when I got tired of watching the doctor be belittled and constantly being told that his companion was a lesbian. I haven't been able to keep myself from paying attention to what happens with the show though and I couldnt help but watch the David Tennant episodes but I have no desire to watch it anymore.

[@M-S_4321]

Sorry Whovians. It was terrible seeing it happen

[@22espec]

Obviously you are not a Whovian.

[@M-S_4321]

@@22espec Never said I was. I just feel empathy for families who followed a show for 6 decades watching it actively being destroyed.

[@shadowspark220]

Eh. It's a good thing I lost track after Capaldi (12th Doctor).

[@22espec]

@@M-S_4321 destroyed? When did that happen? I just saw the return of a villain that fans have begged to retutn gor decades and his return didn't dissapoint and just a wek ago the No Things a new villain was created for the show that really creep me out, so what's the problem? Two Doctor is too much for you? They probably recombine in a few years, hope to be alive to see it, but ubtil then i just enjoy the new adventures.

[@marcus_w0]

Well... I was very sceptic about the matt smith doctor, once david tennats run was over - but he smashed it. He became "my doctor" for the foregoing future. So as Peter Capaldi took over, I was a bit sad, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt. And although he never rose to David Tennt or Matt Smith Levels, he was a decent doctor, with his own set of flaws. And then came Jodie Whittaker. I've never seen such a bland, unrecognisable, unsettling and unsympathic Doctor in all of the episodes before. I wanted her to fail and die in every single episode - just to make her run end. There wasn't a single remarkable episode. She managed to take alll the fun and excitement out of this show and made it like a chore to watch. Do you remember the wheeeping angels? The Silence? Even the "the first Dalec" Episode? Those episodes were frightening, and heartbreaking, because of the consequences of the individuals. But this all was gone once Jodie Whittaker was the doctor. Now it was all fun and games. At least for her. Of Course! We shouldn't bond with the companions, they are replaceable and flat. Unless it was a Rose or an Amy / Rory - who really elevated the doctors quirks. Even Donna Noble was remarkable and showed, how odd and far off this ultra powerful, invincible Lifeform really is.. Graham? Who is Ryan? Who is Yaz? Dan? Vinder? Ruby?

[@NickNapoli]

In the name of the father the son and the Holy Spirit amen. Peace be with you. Ladies and Gentlemen we are gathered here today to celebrate the life and legacy of Dr. Who. If anybody else like to say a few words about the deceased please step forward.

[@Godsmacked1]

i would. would everyone just stop talking about him please. just keep the good memories in your heart. and let him go to that tardis in the sky

[@overcomingthat2728]

Thank you Doctor Who for helping me survive the most abused time of my life. For giving me something to live for and helping me see I am important.

[@IllisiaAdams]

I have some words: IT AIN'T DEAD.

[@jamesdougan8789]

@@IllisiaAdams quit fooling yourself its well and truly dead ... its called the mourning process your going through 1st stage is denial once you relise this you will see the truth and accept the fact its a rotting corpse of a show

[@luckyleo25]

The Doctor was part of my best memories that I have with my family. I would love to talk more about this, but it would literally fill several pages. This new Doctor's characterization as described by Screen Rant is absolutely horrendous. That is NOT the Doctor; it's an ersatz-Doctor! The Doctor is supposed to be brilliant -- he is a homage to one of the greatest fictional heroes of all time, Sherlock Holmes (my *favorite* fictional character)! He is supposed to be occasionally the arrogant and insufferable know-it-all. He is one of the most powerful entities in the universe because of his vast intelligence, knowledge and wisdom. His delight is in being compassionate and willing to share with others the mysteries and wonders of time and space. And he has ALWAYS was willing to learn and react to the unknown. That is *why* he travels! So, I wish Ncuti Gatwa the best. But I do not believe if he will be a great Doctor. I would like to have them to prove this middle-age African American who has been with show since the 1980s wrong, but I do not think this going to happen. I have my all of the seasons of New Who up to the Capaldi era and a few of Classic Who episodes. I will always enjoy and cherish those episodes. And since, the BBC and their ilk is saying this show is not for me anymore ...then fuck this noise. I'm out.

[@BKCqazlll456]

anyone attacks the black doctor are getting my big respect!

[@weirdlittlesister]

All the more bloodboiling to think about the fact that russel T Davies COULD write amazing Doctor Who stories, he just chose not to

[@ray3435]

Me: Never watched an episode of Dr Who in my life. Also me: Watches every Nerdrotick episode on Dr Who. Feels like the end of a series.

[@strangersinlondon_]

Lol I'm sad for everyone who watches this channel. Every British Doctor Who fan I personally know loved every episode. 10/10. I'm kinda glad Americans hated them. Thank you Disney.

[@TheNflkid423]

Same here

[@Convexdhal_23]

Believe me, DW was brilliant, but ever since 13's era the canon has been getting more and more screwed each year.

[@strangersinlondon_]

I don't think many people realise that Doctor Who doesn't really have what you call "canon". The irony!

[@martin0499]

It was really good until Capaldi when it became just okay in his run, then complete liquid shit at Whittaker

[@redphoenixthewise8993]

This literally gave me emotional memories of the final episode with David Tennant's 10th Doctor with the phrase "I don't want to go..." Now i say goodbye to Doctor Who in tears. Thanks Disney!!!

[@BubbsGold]

Instead of wasting your breath crying about something you don't like, go create something of your own

[@Mooshkajoe]

​​​​@@BubbsGold Instead of taking over intellectual properties that you never had a hand in making in the first place and forcing narratives into them that dont belong... go create something of your own. Progressive ideologues have spent the better part of a decade acquiring IPs and then injecting it with whatever narratives, breaking canon, and rewriting characters to suit their own ideals, and you have the audacity to tell people "create something of your own." That is a stunning lack of self-awareness and being disingenuous. It's seems like the reason why they even do this is because when they do create something original, it fails miserably, so you have to ride on the established stories and fanbase just to get the attention you think you deserve. You sound like one of those insufferable twats on Reddit and Twitter that say stupid shit like "Why do you care so much?" I can smell your smugness through my phone.

[@BubbsGold]

@Mooshkajoe yeah, go make your own doctor who. Nothing is stopping you or anyone else from making it. As long as you aren't trying to generate revenue, you're not infringing on the IP so go to it! But none of you will. The show hasn't been good in years so I wish someone would. But what I'm not going to sit here and do is cry and cry about how my favorite franchises are dying, I'll just go watch something else. The new star wars trilogy was ass, but I don't see anyone making their own magical space samurai IP, it's not like it's the most complicated shit to write. So you can pretend like I give a fuck about reddit or Twitter and I'm smug, but truly I'm just an adult who doesn't give a fuck if an IP I have great affection for has a new release that I'm not the target demographic for. The problem is that people form their identities around television shows and movies, dedicate too much of their energy and life being fans of said product and suddenly their identity is shattered when the people who own that product sell the latest version to a different target demographic

[@ReggieBishop]

Thanks Disney? They just bought the broadcast rights -- they don't own Doctor Who. Now Doctor Who is shown in more territories than ever

[@Mooshkajoe]

@@BubbsGold So if someone enjoys something and it gets taken over and forever changed, they should just go make their own. Then the cycle repeats. I get that it's cringe to wrap your identity around a fictional story, but that's reaching. Not everyone who enjoys something is a rabid cosplaying fantard that goes apeshit over small details and cries while watching trailers. You're intentionally dodging the point with your "I don't really care" attitude and expecting other people to not care, and they are somehow wrong for not seeing it your way or adopting your view on it and they are somehow wrong. Yeah, you're being pretty smug. People would have the same reaction if they always like going to a park and then show up one day, and it's been torn up with trash everywhere. If they complain about it, the people who trash the place mock them and tell them if they don't like it, they can leave. Just because you don't see it through the lens others do doesn't magically make it not a problem. If you truly didn't care, then why are you even here? I'll answer that for you. To be a condescending asshole. That's it. The fact that you even responded means you care about this. A lot. Maybe too much yourself. So much so you feel it necessary to shit on the people here. So... who's really mad here? Either you're a seething and coping fan, or you're intentionally burning strawmen and actually like this shit because I've seen enough people who unironically enjoy this forced progressive washing say the exact same shit you did.

[@DouglasDinkle117]

Recently I've been rewatching Doctor Who, the early 2000's. All the way until season 12, is where it ends for me. I don't give a flying frog's ass for Jodie Wickeder. So I am inclined to enjoy my beloved 9-12 Doctors. Screw the modern agenda

[@williamdolton5244]

Capaldi was the last Doctor. RIP Doctor Who. The priceless and irreplaceable icon is truly dead.

[@mikelachey824]

Whitaker's era was great. The writing was original. Problem is that people whine about original, but when they get it, then its an agenda. LOL The whole Woke argument is really just bigots looking for someone else to be responsible for their bigotry. LOL I mean, Who's creator had wanted the Doctor to transform into a woman as well as many other possibilities. There were always gay characters in the show, its just that the bigot wants them to be played and shown as being straight gays. LOL

[@MoonlightAce69]

​@@mikelachey824 Whitakers era was mediocre at best. Chibnall took great pleasure in ripping apart the Canon of Doctor Who and while I'll admit Jodie got a raw deal with the rubbish writing, her Doctor is very forgettable. Over 50 years of writing was flushed down the toilet in the Timeless Children. Destroyed the legacy of William Hartnell. Killed the Doctor Donna. Retconned Davros because he was in a wheelchair. Woke took over Doctor Who and the fans just didn't deserve it.

[@TheOriginalCactusGuy]

@@mikelachey824Whitaker was an awful actor.

[@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw]

Peter Capaldi is a wonderful, talented actor. Dr Who is dead as a franchise.

[@williamhutchins479]

​@@mikelachey824 if you're the same person. And you reincarnate as said same person. Just looking different. You're not gonna magically turn into a gay person. It's not Bigotry. It's common sense. I'm ready for your weak arguments. Come at me.

[@bluebellaza4028]

Wow, it turns out that Moffat handled fanservice better in his anniversary episode than RTD did in his. Could we have thought that ten years ago?

[@alphamineron]

It turns out Moffat was far better at everything than RTD, at least the current RTD

[@SarcasticPlotRecaps]

So did Chibnall last year to be fair. That felt more like a 60th celebration than any of these "specials". 🤷‍♂️🤦

[@thefilmmusicaficionado7937]

Considering that RTD had a substantial amount of breathing space to write an insanely grand and epic story that honoured the shows legacy while making it an emotional rollercoaster (which he's known for) I think we got a very ordinary, run-of-the-mill set of stories, that felt underwhelming for an anniversary. Moffat's 50th was a masterpiece. RTD's 60th will be remembered as fun and interesting to watch, but we won't remember it as a must watch

[@mijju7604]

I want Moffat back as main writer but I know it can't happen. He wrote some mid episodes but they were still miles better than this shit

[@TheL-vc4od]

I wish people would give Davies a bit of a break, yes, the special is shit, but he hasn't written doctor who in over a decade. Let him write some more, then judge him, I haven't given up him yet

[@annatardlordofderps9181]

You can really tell how fictional the show is because they had the black character the character that was able to get over the pain and loss of their past.

[@astormofwrenches5555]

😂😂😂😂

[@cooperlyle8781]

😬…….😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ricardolorrio8228]

this mistake will be bigger than you think.... I hear Star Wars fans saying "welcome to our world"

[@WoodyK9]

Doctor What, as in “What the hell are we supposed to like about seeing everything be destroyed before our eyes?” Doctor Why, as in “Why would they do this?” Doctor How, as in “How could they do this to us?” Doctor Where, as in “Where will the wokies go next?”

[@jamesdougan8789]

GAY POLITICAL ACTIVISM is the reason and the desire to screw everything up for the other people who did enjoy the show just to be a bi(ch ....you can see it in the producers eyes and mannerisms in every interview and whenever he talks about the show

[@geraldthompson4633]

From one Trek fan to the Whovians, my deepest regrets on the loss of your show

[@Sillimant_]

really stings as a fan of both

[@Kanejomore-px9jl]

thank you

[@geraldthompson4633]

@@Kanejomore-px9jl having experienced the loss of my beloved Trek, I began picking up my favs on blue ray and dvd. Ill probably start collecting pre 13th Doctor stuff

[@Kanejomore-px9jl]

@@geraldthompson4633 good idea

[@jamescarr1265]

We won’t recover lol but ty

[@CEWinick]

What a massacre, there's nothing left behind. At least we have the classic and Nerdortic to remind us to keep fighting with our wallets. Awesome episode Nerdortic, and keep being great.

[@corneliagliem422]

"Good stories"? Sorry doctor Wo often has shown ... Not Good stories. And often was disappointed. But every time became wonderful and great again. And please just endure diversity... the doctor always has been diverse.