SV650 GSXR Rear Wheel Swap

** Updated video: • SV650 GSXR Rear Wheel ...
edit See my comments below for a detailed description of what's needed for this swap.
Picked up a rear wheel from an '07 GSXR 750 and used the kit from TWF Racing to upgrade the back end of my '07 SV650. It continues to be a work in progress, but it'll be fun to ride when it's ready this spring.
Kit from www.twfracing.com/zparts.html

[@kosmoto]

gaddang what a difference!!

[@Martino_R6]

Hey was kinda curious what exhaust you had (yoshi tri oval?) full system or slip on ? would love a reaction. Great bike buddy!

[@drew657]

delkevic.com/stubby-13-stainless-steel-tri-oval-muffler-to-fit-sv650-2003-2012/

[@badnews317]

Hey, good job Man!! Could you send me dimensions of new sleeves and rear brake mount? I also would like to get GSXR wheel on my SV.

[@drew657]

As I said in the video, and in the description, I didn't make these, it's a kit I bought from Zoran at TWF Racing. You ship him the GSXR sprocket carrier and SV650 rear brake bracket, and he machines them and sends them back with the spacers. If you're really keen to make some, maybe he'll give you the dimensions. His email is on his website, linked in the description of this video.

[@badnews317]

I sent him a few e-mails but I did not get any answer, don't know why, so could you be able to measure for me those spacers and the brake caliper after machining, then I could do this swap on my Sv

[@drew657]

@@badnews317 Nah man, I'm not going to take apart my bike to measure those spacers. I have neither the desire to do so nor the tools to measure accurately enough for you. Maybe he doesn't want to undercut his business making these?i certainly don't. I'd keep trying him, or at least read through the thread on his forum. He talks a bit about the spacing needed to center the wheel. If you have the skill and tools to machine these, I would assume you have the skills and tools to measure the spacing. Or just buy a set from him.

[@hackage]

Good video, the music in the background is completely unnecessary though

[@drew657]

Agreed. Seemed like a good idea at the time. Learning curve, and all.

[@clarkeboss1072]

Drew nonsense bro welcome to the future

[@hassanjamal4212]

Can you give your opinion if its economically feasible to swap scooter wheels from another manufactures wheel? For example, use a Honda Ruckus wheelset on a Suzuki Address? I know that most wheels are unique to each model, with different spacings, axles, bearings etc...just want to know if it can be economically done by a professional.

[@drew657]

I doubt if it’s economical to do that. With enough fabrication, anything can be swapped onto anything but for small scooters like that, I’d think it’s probably not worth the effort. Maybe between different models of the same manufacturer, like here with a Suzuki GSXR wheel on a Suzuki SV, but I can’t imagine it would be easy to swap between manufacturers.

[@hassanjamal4212]

@@drew657 that's what my local mechanic told me lol. Guess its best for me to drop this idea.

[@desmoquattro]

hi, sorry, I would like to make the same modification as you to my motorbike. Can you tell me where to buy the bushing kit or if you have the dimensions of the bushings and if I have to file the rear brake caliper plate, let me know thanks

[@drew657]

Read the video description

[@karthikdinavahi6209]

Hey, I've got a '05 SV650S and I've been considering upgrading my wheel for a little while. I tried to look for information around it but couldn't find much. Now that you have been riding it for a while, I was wondering if you've noticed any difference. Please let me know, it'll be a great help!

[@drew657]

Here are a couple of threads talking about it. I honestly didn't ride it hardly at all before upgrading, so I can't speak to feeling a difference. A friend asked me about it a few weeks ago and I wrote up a pretty detailed description of if, let me see if I can find it. forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=132138 twfracing.com/vbforums/forum/technical-discussions-and-questions/suspension-and-chassis/311-06-and-newer-gsxr-600-750-wheel-on-sv?t=488

[@drew657]

You can put a GSXR rear wheel on your SV650. The biggest reason to do this is that it's a wider wheel and thus you can put a 180 section rear tire (stock for GSXR) rather than the SV stock 160. Some people will say you can just put a 180 tire on the stock SV rim. Don't do this. It will physically fit on there, but the tire will be pinched narrower than it was designed for, which will make it have a weird tall profile that will negatively affect your handling and actually give you a smaller contact patch than the stock 160. And it won't look any wider because it'll form to the stock SV rear wheel, which is narrower than the GSXR unit. Pros: - 180 is standard super-sport rear tire size, so all the best tires come in a 180, while they don't all come in 160, so you get better tire selection (better compounds mostly) - Wider tire = larger contact patch=better grip, especially at lean - Wheel is aluminum instead of steel, so even with the larger wheel and tire it weighs less. Less unsprung (and rotating) mass makes for better handling - I think a 180 looks much better on the back of a sport bike instead of the 10-speed bicycle-looking skinny 160 that comes stock on the SV. Looks mean as hell. Cons: - Cost: I spent about $320 on just the wheel, tire, sprocket, and machining. I was lucky and found a wheel with good bearings and a sprocket carrier for $150 on craigslist, but finding a good GSXR rear wheel that's not thrashed is usually expensive, especially if you have to ship it. Doesn't always come with the sprocket carrier, so you'll likely need to buy that separately, as well as a new sprocket and chain. I had already bought a new chain because the one my bike came with was trash (spend the money on a good one so it doesn't break at speed, I think mine was $170-ish), and I had to find a rear sprocket that was the right size to fit. I bought a new SV rear brake bracket so I could still ride while I had everything out for machining, I found one for like $10 shipped on either ebay or mad8v, I can't remember. I'll include the link below, but you'll need to ship the GSXR sprocket carrier and your stock SV rear break bracket to a guy to have them machined, and he'll include new wheel spacers with instructions for installation. Machining is $150 plus shipping. I think it cost me over $500 all in to get the swap done. - Complication: Like I just said, you'll need to figure out what parts you'll need and piece them together. It took me a couple of months to gather everything once I picked up the wheel. I took that time to clean the parts really well so they'd be like-new, and that gave me an opportunity to inspect everything for damage and to make sure it would work. Then you'll have to figure out what to do with the leftover parts. I tried to sell them, but ended up just giving them away to get them out of my hair. No one wanted them, and I can't imagine they'll be easy to sell in Wichita. Also, I found that the bracket that holds the rear brake hose to the swingarm had a sharp edge that was cutting into the wider tire. I took it off and replaced it with a zip tie. - Time: If you are lucky and can find everything quickly, you'll need to ship the sprocket carrier and brake bracket to the guy who figured this all out for him to machine the parts so they'll fit. He had a pretty quick turnaround for me, he only had the parts for like 2 days, so it was like 9 days from when I shipped it to when I got it back. But it took me a couple of months to gather all the parts. - Handling: Having a wider back tire makes the steering heavier. Because there's a wider tire section, you'll have to push harder on the bars to get the bike to lean over, and the bike has to lean farther to make the same turning radius because, well, physics. Honestly, you probably won't notice a big difference (I never rode it with the 160 tire so I can't compare), and after a couple of rides you'll probably get used to it anyway. Also, the 180 tire is just a little bit shorter, which will tilt your bike back slightly and make the rake angle a little shallower, again making steering slower and take more effort. You'll need: - 06-09 GSXR 600 or 750 rear wheel (they're the same). 08-09 wheel is supposed to be a bit lighter. I got an 07 GSXR750 rear wheel on craigslist that came with a sprocket carrier, sprocket (that was the wrong size), rear brake disc (same size as SV so you can still use it), a tire, and good bearings. I've used the tire this season, but I'll be replacing it in the spring. You may end up with a wheel that either doesn't have bearings, or has bearings that are thrashed and you may have to buy a set of 3 wheel bearings too (one for each side of the wheel and one for the sprocket carrier - linked below). Might have to buy a rear brake disc and bolts too, depending on what you can find. - 06-09 600/750 rear sprocket carrier if your wheel doesn't come with it (and maybe the rubber cush drive if it doesn't come with). Easiest way is to find a GSXR part out bike and buy both the wheel and carrier/cush drive all together. If you're lucky it'll come with a usable tire. - New chain (link below). Chain size is 525 (I can't remember how many links. A standard chain will come too long and you cut it to length with a chain tool). You will need to buy a chain tool (should anyway if you're going to ride, a chain is a consumable and will eventually need to be replaced). You'll need to buy a master link, too. Get a rivet-type, they're the same price and more reliable when installed correctly. - New rear sprocket. I found a 45 tooth rear sprocket from an '07 GSXR750 that had a 525 chain size. I put it on backward (it has a dished side that normally faces the swingarm, I put it facing the wheel to bring the chain line inboard slightly more, otherwise it won't ever line up with the front sprocket. Read all the way through that forum I linked below. Read it a couple of times and it'll start to make some sense, I had to read it all the way through a few times to be able to pick out all the info I needed.) - Machining. Like I said before, the GSXR sprocket carrier and SV brake bracket will need to be machined by Zoran the TWF Racing guy to make everything fit. When/if you're ready to get the work done, email him at the email on the second link and he'll give you the info on what to send, when to send it, and where to send it. He'll take off the appropriate amounts of material to get everything lined up correctly, and send it back with the correct wheel spacers to use the stock SV rear axle (which is smaller diameter than the GSXR one). Links: twfracing.com/vbforums/forum/technical-discussions-and-questions/suspension-and-chassis/311-06-and-newer-gsxr-600-750-wheel-on-sv?t=488 twfracing.com/vbforums/forum/twf-racing-parts/twf-part-listings/1117-gsxr-5-5-rear-wheel-conversion-for-sv650 www.mad8v.com/

[@karthikdinavahi6209]

@@drew657 Hey man, that was super comprehensive. Thank you so so much for taking out the time to write out all of the information, I appreciate it a lot. The swap is definitely more complicated than I thought, I was under the impression that the wheels are pretty much the same so won't need a lot of work but you've explained everything well, better than most sources I could find in fact. Sadly I live over the pond in the UK, so I'll have to source all the parts somehow and find someone to machine the bits needed. Then again, I wonder if I should do smaller upgrades and just get a bigger bike. I'll have to look around and decide. Again, thank you for everything. I'll be sure to subscribe and keep up to date with your content.

[@alvaroedwards1915]

Hey,i tried swapping my 07 SV back wheel with my old 03 GSX 600,but it wont fit,any suggestions?

[@drew657]

@@alvaroedwards1915 Watch the video and read the description. Also, read the comments, I gave an incredibly detailed description of what you have to do.

[@erezyoal]

Now that the tire is closer To the chain way not going For 520 chain insted of 525 So it will not scrub the tire ?

[@drew657]

Over 5 years later, I've had no chain/tire interference with the 525 chain. A 520 would be fine if you wanted to go that route for weight savings.

[@mikebauman2338]

Cool shit what are the links and companies to do this and how much

[@drew657]

Read the video description

[@dakr3464]

Do the front wheel also from an 03 gsxr 1000

[@drew657]

Front wheel from a GSXR won't fit this bike. You have to swap the entire front end. See my other video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqOYeoxvhMd9mLc

[@slapdaddy3000]

Did you use your stock axel

[@drew657]

Yes, the spacers in the TWF kit are set up to use your stock SV650 axle.

[@davidgallop484]

What about insurance as mod to bike ,

[@drew657]

Excellent question. That will depend on both your country/location and your insurance carrier. If you're worried about it that much, best to ask someone who might actually know. Like your insurance carrier. Best of luck.

[@cz75fanatic]

This did not need music. Made is almost impossible to understand.

[@drew657]

Indeed, but it was the style st the time. Let me know when you finish the time machine and we can go back and warn me.

[@cz75fanatic]

@@drew657 lol I will keep you updated. Great build none the less.

[@thaitram7616]

loose the music pleae

[@redhytech]

too much work.....just use a 180 tire on the sv rim. and use the sprocket from the gsxr.

[@drew657]

redhytech 😂 okay bro. If you want to crash from a smaller contact patch (and have it look skinnier anyway) that’s on you

[@redhytech]

@@drew657 well, I hadn't planned on crashing. but hey, you do you. lol