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@dmoore4520
@dmoore4520 5 ай бұрын
Pogi's bottle attack was great. Pogi's second attack with Jonas gripping the wheel was even better. When Remco and Carapaz came in with them at the line it just kept getting better. We're in for a great July 🦋
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
👊🦋🔥🇫🇷🍼
@TedDagnese
@TedDagnese 5 ай бұрын
Nothing like Tadej and Jonas in the same frame at the Tour.
@paulaguirre8019
@paulaguirre8019 5 ай бұрын
Chris , Mea Culpa on my part! Never thought Jonas could come back from the crash. So happy to have a race on our hands.
@suisinghoraceho2403
@suisinghoraceho2403 5 ай бұрын
Chris, really excellent job figuring out how Carapaz and Remco came out of the chasing pack. Everybody else is like “somehow Remco and Carapaz is in between the groups” and you are the only one that looked through this frame by frame and figured out that Remco and Carapaz came out at the top of the climb. This is why we come to you for race analysis. You are the only one that does the work to figure out these details.
@gobears6487
@gobears6487 5 ай бұрын
And the only one to spot and comment on Roglic 👍
@joebriggs8422
@joebriggs8422 5 ай бұрын
Tadej's 'water bottle attack' was like the 'ol hold your hand out as if to shake hands then pull it away to brush your hair back 😉
@rowellumali5128
@rowellumali5128 5 ай бұрын
The doctor who operated Jonas might have modified his lungs' capacity or added him a third set of lungs😂
@debasishnayak8610
@debasishnayak8610 5 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking!
@jonathansnow1886
@jonathansnow1886 5 ай бұрын
Does anybody know his name? I could use some new ones.
@debasishnayak8610
@debasishnayak8610 5 ай бұрын
@@jonathansnow1886 😂😂
@tonycrabtree3416
@tonycrabtree3416 5 ай бұрын
@@jonathansnow1886 Michael Furrari.
@phacharawut
@phacharawut 5 ай бұрын
@@tonycrabtree3416😂
@erichgerber251
@erichgerber251 5 ай бұрын
Ah, one more thing: observing Remco - more precisely his attitude - and I'm very pleased. The young gun, who was overly cocky at times in the past 24 months, seems to be a lot more grounded. This could be the right recipe for bigger successes - not at this year's TdF, but later.
@LarsRyeJeppesen
@LarsRyeJeppesen 5 ай бұрын
Love him, he is funny and super cocky. And absurdly strong
@krzysztofbodzianowski6858
@krzysztofbodzianowski6858 5 ай бұрын
Remco is learning. Hi did not follow Pog and VINI right away. He waited for oxytocin come back to the muscles and then he started working. I am more afraid what happened to Primos?
@Leonorexplore
@Leonorexplore 5 ай бұрын
My man Victor Campenaerts! I always think of Chris when I see this Lotto Truck at the front of the pack! 🙂
@koosreitsma1171
@koosreitsma1171 5 ай бұрын
Very well riding by Visma-LAB: 1) everybody did his part today and saved energy when the job was done. 2) They worked as a team (inspired by the book Legacy by James Kesrr) 3) they were in front not to get the group in the front back, but to have the distance 4) both times they were in position at the start of the hard climb, knowing it was going to be small. Finally: Impressive how Vingegaard is riding, considering the crash earlier this year.
@CycoWarriorx
@CycoWarriorx 5 ай бұрын
Lemme tell you, when Tadej waved at Vinny like “naw, go on” when he was up front, I actually laughed out loud… 😂🍻
@alexanderhamilton8373
@alexanderhamilton8373 5 ай бұрын
Thankfully, this tour could be a masterpiece battle once more
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
👊🤞🔥🇫🇷
@Slimandthegeeks
@Slimandthegeeks 5 ай бұрын
JV has done an amazing job to get back so quickly. Good to see Egan making the top ten also.
@lucasramara
@lucasramara 5 ай бұрын
I can finally go to bed now! Thanks a lot Chris and Garret! Greetings from 🇧🇷
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
💤👊🦋
@fernandacardoso779
@fernandacardoso779 5 ай бұрын
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
@jbrnobrega
@jbrnobrega 5 ай бұрын
So do I! Greetings from Brazil also!!! 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
@ChiroWalter730
@ChiroWalter730 5 ай бұрын
😊The only person I want to see after the race!!! Thank you boss🎉🎉🎉
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
🇫🇷👊🦋
@DeniseWehner
@DeniseWehner 5 ай бұрын
Same
@bihlygoat
@bihlygoat 5 ай бұрын
We have a race on our hands! 👏👏👏
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
👊🦋🔥🇫🇷
@shitbagg
@shitbagg 5 ай бұрын
Jonas only used one lung yesterday, the bad one. Just wait till he starts using both in week 3.
@ameeralnajjar1731
@ameeralnajjar1731 5 ай бұрын
Watching the tour is fun, but watching Chris is more fun 💜
@deanashleyspencer2994
@deanashleyspencer2994 5 ай бұрын
The racing today was fantastic and so was your round-up Chris. What a show you all put on. Wow!!! This race has the makings of being a classic. Now lets see if Mark can make history today. Ohhh boy l truly hope so.....🚴🚴🚴🚴🚴
@hornet224
@hornet224 5 ай бұрын
TDF has got to do better camera coverage of the GC contenders. Remco and Primoz were ignored (lost) during the Cote.
@beetrootpro
@beetrootpro 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic stage! Edge of your seat 😎
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
Good stuff 🔥👊🦋🇫🇷
@martinyeager7948
@martinyeager7948 5 ай бұрын
I enjoyed both stage 1 and 2 on TV. It is great to enjoy them again through your commentary pointing out things I just don't look for or see. The stills with the position of the of the GC and their support team really helps me understand more of the team aspect of TDF. I am now "Subscribed" be checking here everyday. Thank you.
@kaj4501
@kaj4501 5 ай бұрын
I watched the whole race and I must say you did it justice Chris. I am most impressed with the amount of time you allotted to each event within the race, just the right amount of detail and energy. Most impressed by Jonas and Remco as well. They are looking to atleast follow Tadej, no matter what! Carapaz got a free ride down the descend and flat I believe 😂
@matthillard9363
@matthillard9363 5 ай бұрын
That's carapaz for you. Faking it til the line is in sight. The guy never works for anyone. That's how he podiumed when jonas had his breakout year and got 2nd
@meadowcroftschipper
@meadowcroftschipper 5 ай бұрын
Hi Chris, Thank you for providing thrill, tension and drama, in your show. You do justice to the epic life and death stories only a racer like you can provide. Leslie
@eljeferaider
@eljeferaider 5 ай бұрын
That acceleration by pogi was insane but Jonas covered the move faster than previous years like he’s more fast twitch now 😯
@meibing4912
@meibing4912 5 ай бұрын
Agree Vingegaard's response was impressive. Also, you can train for distance and watts - much harder to train for explosions. And Pogi left everyone else behind in the dust as he did in the Giro.
@ExplorinDoranRBrown
@ExplorinDoranRBrown 5 ай бұрын
It was quite explosive form Pogi and I was impressed with Jonas’ response. I was thinking at the time it speaks to how fresh he was at the moment, and that he definitely was feeling good!
@ZENmud
@ZENmud 5 ай бұрын
Vive la France ! Happy to see some satisfaction to our hosts' expectations, and a new name to follow. Thanks, jeune homme! (Chris) and Garrett 🎬📽🎞
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
🇫🇷🦋👊
@gobears6487
@gobears6487 5 ай бұрын
Woop! 🎉🎉🎉 p.s. name issues today? 😉😉😉 when we do it we call it namelexia 🤓 Thanks for covering Roglic's position because NBC never did!😢
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
Hehehe. Even my old teammate I mixed up with Powless. Poor Mike suffered over the climb and attacked the break only for me to get his name wrong. At least Garrett caught it and fixed it. 😂🦋👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
🧸
@Salty_old_Viking
@Salty_old_Viking 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for 'namelexia'-term. I really that medical term in many situations ;)
@timspicer875
@timspicer875 5 ай бұрын
The technical term is nominal dysphasia 😉
@gregfisher216
@gregfisher216 5 ай бұрын
As we say in the south ,this was some John Brown racing !!!!! Great coverage Chris ! When we listen to the guys on Peacock cover the race and then listen to you, well ,there is no comparison !!! My wife and I are sitting on the Chesterfield as you would phrase it and wonder ,what's up with the suits and ties !!!!!
@Chiller11
@Chiller11 5 ай бұрын
Great summary of an exciting stage. Looks like Vingegaard was sandbagging everyone at least a bit. He looks like he has the legs early but it’s a long 3 weeks and he did miss some training. Pogacar was on the offensive but at the end it looked like he didn’t want yellow just yet. Be interesting to see if it changes UAE strategy if he’s still in yellow at the end of the day tomorrow. It was Evenepoel that was spectacular on this stage. It looked like he was dropped a couple of times but he just magically reappeared with the leaders when it counted. Great stage.
@meibing4912
@meibing4912 5 ай бұрын
Remco is TT WC and the stage ended with a long flat. You can see him pulling Carapaz TT-style all the way to the line.
@SeattleMarko
@SeattleMarko 5 ай бұрын
Looks like TP was dropping back at the finish to not get yellow jersey? Thoughts???
@OcotilloCanyon
@OcotilloCanyon 5 ай бұрын
Correct! He admits that to Remco after the race.....
@fernandovega5722
@fernandovega5722 5 ай бұрын
Totally!
@xaosects
@xaosects 5 ай бұрын
Yes! He knew if they all scored the same time he would get Yellow, so he soft-pedaled the sprint to try to create a gap to let Remco have it, hence that post-race cool-down interaction. Maybe a kind gesture to the Belgian, but I think an attempted tactic to let Soudal defend the jersey on stage 4 so UAE can sit back and mark Visma.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
Nah. He was upset that Jonas wasn’t working. So he just backed off. 🤔🦋💪👊🔥🇫🇷
@palle0412
@palle0412 5 ай бұрын
​@@ChrisHornerCyclingNo, find and listen to him talk to Remco after the stage. He didn't want yellow.
@adamcurpier
@adamcurpier 5 ай бұрын
Watching on Mon ... (early bedtime), great vid. as always Chris!!
@SamuelBlackMetalRider
@SamuelBlackMetalRider 5 ай бұрын
Someone was REAAAAAALLYY playing Possum
@carlerlandsson5646
@carlerlandsson5646 5 ай бұрын
Now I can go to sleep knowing I’m updated. See you tomorrow!
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
💤🦋👊☀️
@xuchenglin6256
@xuchenglin6256 5 ай бұрын
Wow! You should on a TV signal! This is the best race break down I have ever seen. Unfortunately I missed the live race yesterday, but after watching at least 3 highlights, with all those images and key moments already seen, but still couldn't picture what actually happened. (If I haven't watched this probably still not and not knowing I'm not) Although it could be the double lap makes race especially highlights confusing. Really really nice!
@shakrmaker
@shakrmaker 5 ай бұрын
Great coverage. I think it would be great April Fool's day next year if Chris posted a race and made up all of the riders names :)
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
Hehehe. Today I was making up names left and right. Well, all the names exist but I was taking half from one rider and mixing half of another. 🤪🦋👊😂
@jonathansnow1886
@jonathansnow1886 5 ай бұрын
Do you think if there was a "Classique Chris Horner" (p/b Chesterfield Furniture of Bend, OR) that a few people might show up to race?
@shakrmaker
@shakrmaker 5 ай бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCycling best celebrity version I could think of last night was "Tom Jones just attacked Frank Stallone" :)
@Legionarivss
@Legionarivss 5 ай бұрын
@Chris Horner, stage 4 do you agree this stage should've finished on the mountain with the cars waiting down the climb? It's now 16km descending before the finish, which seems to me to be extremely dangerous, with GC candidates taking extreme risks to descend?
@marticarlson
@marticarlson 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, Chris and Garret!
@marcomarcello737
@marcomarcello737 5 ай бұрын
I've loved the 35 mm Vingegaard's wheel. Or was it a 40 ?
@bobabout256
@bobabout256 5 ай бұрын
Game on. When JV got out of the saddle behind TP on the climb I thought he’s going to drop the wheel but JV did a great effort. This is going to be a great battle.
@USUG0
@USUG0 5 ай бұрын
it's a two horses race A short punchy climb like that is where RE should perform well, and yet he got dropped anyway. Comes the Galibier, he will be back with the rest. The only reason why we might not see the same gaps as at the Giro is that JV and TP will be controlling each other. Otherwise, TP could have already put 20-30s on the rest
@dylangrantz8124
@dylangrantz8124 5 ай бұрын
Great race today. Gotta give it to that young uno x rider he was a beast today.
@MarlowWhere
@MarlowWhere 5 ай бұрын
The other Jonas!
@gnomevoyeur
@gnomevoyeur 5 ай бұрын
My heart wants Primoz to win but it looked bad today. Did he get any benefit from saving energy in the remnants of the peloton that might pay back the 21 seconds? It's only 2 days until the Galibier. I'm guessing that will sort out what's what.
@matthillard9363
@matthillard9363 5 ай бұрын
His doms were in position but he wasn't. The guy should know he must be riding no less than 7th wheel coming into the final climb. He used some excuse about bad legs but no one is buying it....just sloppy riding. He had to work to get himself back to both hindley and vlasov. Not going to cut it with the quality in the field this year. I go as far to say he'll be riding for stages and his doms this year. Hindley or vlasov will be leader after stage 4
@christopheralix8554
@christopheralix8554 5 ай бұрын
I’m not tactician, but I feel that this has always been the plan for UAE. That’s why they brought all the climbers. Today They are testing JV. They are just testing the team, only Jonas could hold his wheel. In the mountains I feel that UAE is gonna consummate this plan and do to JV what jumbo Visma did to TP. Isolate and attack. Visma can no longer cover that attack. It’s only a matter of time till JV can’t hold it. Remco is remco. He’s gonna keep doing what he’s doing fall out of the favorites. I was surprised about Primoz, wasn’t expecting that
@chevyrydah04
@chevyrydah04 5 ай бұрын
All Jonas has to do is watch Tadej. UAE will crumble in the heat then it’ll be him vs Jonas.
@EMC2Scotia
@EMC2Scotia 5 ай бұрын
@@chevyrydah04 I get the sense for JV, this will be the tactic. Follow and wait, follow and wait.
@LadyBird-n2t
@LadyBird-n2t 5 ай бұрын
JT and Visma.. always been shady as hell and this just shows - back to the same old bs
@henkmogillo7352
@henkmogillo7352 5 ай бұрын
Have you noticed that for past two days Almeida was hidding, I suspect that on Tuesday there’s gonna be be big attack either from him or Soler.
@Mike-zx1kx
@Mike-zx1kx 5 ай бұрын
And if that are your theory then you too should have many hours of satisfying hours watching if that comes through, right? That are part of the beauty of this race. MANY theories can be had but only reality of each stage show how that theory hold up. Last 2-3 years have been best Tdf´s in my memory and this years first two stages have been best start stages in TdF history in my opinion (NEVER another 1st stage TT again in my opinion). That Pogocar had heightened Covid values 2 weeks before the start and Jonas had his awful crash in April makes these two first stages even more impressive for both. There are no givens. Only time will tell if both reach Paris.
@zui4516
@zui4516 5 ай бұрын
Mr. Chesterfield himself! Love your analysis after each race! I might be a bit biased as I am a big Jonas fan, but guys how great was this final yesterday! I hope we will see something similar on Tuesday as I want it to be a close race between at least 3-4 competitors for the first two weeks and after that I hope that Jonas will be able to make it again! Even though it has to be seen if the training of round about 4-5 week-ish will be enough!
@robinbeckford
@robinbeckford 5 ай бұрын
Great to see Victor put in an appearance, doing what he does best - lighting it up!
@MountainKing7
@MountainKing7 5 ай бұрын
Yes! The recap I need! Great TDF so far
@cheekeanng7820
@cheekeanng7820 5 ай бұрын
Yes so true, I watched and wondering why Hindley and Vlasov not pulling in the descent (others from Ineos and UAE not in mercy)...
@recrevs963
@recrevs963 5 ай бұрын
Did Tadej and Jonas equal or break Rusty Woods' record here. I found it was 5:25 which would be the same time. Good to see Billy Carapaz up there, dude is always dangerous. Why did Tadej get yellow though if 4 others are on the same time? This stage proves that there are usually only 2 maybe 3 favourites. But hopefully it stays tight for as long as it can or even stage 21 TT😊
@jeffschmid2538
@jeffschmid2538 5 ай бұрын
Stage 4 will be so telling. Can't wait. Also, go Cav on stage 3.
@fredtatch1572
@fredtatch1572 5 ай бұрын
Looked like Pog didn’t want the yellow yet and kinda took it by surprise. He seemed unsure in the ceremony didn’t he?
@ghcheong
@ghcheong 5 ай бұрын
When you have the yellow jersey, it's also a huge target marked in yellow for you. In a 4 horse race like this, and the quality of the field, it may not be the wisest to get yellow so early in the race. It's is a game of fox and hounds. Tadej may not want to be the "fox" so early in the Tour.
@uroskra77
@uroskra77 5 ай бұрын
Yes, he said that in a interview for a Slovenian TV.
@DeniseWehner
@DeniseWehner 5 ай бұрын
Chris, I’m confused. Why on stage 3 is Carapaz in yellow with same time. Also, why is Jonas same time as Remco and Tadej when he crossed not in the same group many seconds behind? Is this because of the crash rule , or do you need to be in the crash to benefit? Thx
@NeverTakeNoCut-offs
@NeverTakeNoCut-offs 5 ай бұрын
such great coverage.
@ludwig-music
@ludwig-music 5 ай бұрын
Yay, I waited all day for this video. Thank you Chris!
@stephenmagee3766
@stephenmagee3766 5 ай бұрын
✊🤕 I call out the NBC coverage. Watching the finish and nothing about Remco or Car until 10 seconds from the line and they just appear. Euro Sport was updating the whole time on the descent and we knew they were coming. Also another fan ✊🤕 today woman with cell phone hitting EFE rider in the head.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
I miss all the Eurosport coverage. 🥲🦋
@autorelight
@autorelight 5 ай бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCycling I'm in Hood River, and I watch Eurosport... it's possible. ;) NBC is UNWATCHABLE at this point. Horrible coverage.
@matthillard9363
@matthillard9363 5 ай бұрын
I saw that too. Of all times to get on the phone? She'd probably been waiting a few hours for them to pass. So hard to police the fans. I just find it so disrespectful of the riders to pull this crap. These guys train their arse off to get to this race
@bjmartin3077
@bjmartin3077 5 ай бұрын
Yeah such a shame that Peacock didn’t include world feed.
@TheMrbrookster
@TheMrbrookster 5 ай бұрын
Abrahamsen is having a good season, I thought he was being a bit ambitious yesterday sprinting for everything in the break, but its paid off for him.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
Yes it did 👊🔥💪🦋
@GO-cg4sn
@GO-cg4sn 5 ай бұрын
Good morning, I wonder if riders have time to visit the historic surroundings in France, Italy, Flanders, etc.
@matthillard9363
@matthillard9363 5 ай бұрын
They train there???
@angelamacchi977
@angelamacchi977 5 ай бұрын
Waiting for your video Chris!
@gxexrxmxaxnx
@gxexrxmxaxnx 5 ай бұрын
Hoping Primoz proves us wrong on stage 4.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
It didn’t help that Roglic was out of position in the climb. Maybe he was cutting the calories short. Who knows, maybe just a bad day, let’s hope. 🤔🤞🦋👊
@LarsRyeJeppesen
@LarsRyeJeppesen 5 ай бұрын
​@@ChrisHornerCyclingmighty early to have a "bad day" on stage TWO
@uroskra77
@uroskra77 5 ай бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCycling he said for a Slovenian TV that he had bad legs / bad day and because of this he wasn't positioned where he wanted to be.
@matthillard9363
@matthillard9363 5 ай бұрын
6​@uroskra77 way to early for a bad day. Anything over day 10 is fair enough but day two? I don't buy it. Both doms for him where in position. He's not paying attention. He shouldn't be anything less than seventh wheel if he's serious about winning. We'll see after stage 4 if he's still leader. He may be riding for vlasov or hindley if he doesn't wake up unless he's riding for $ instead of winning.
@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628
@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628 5 ай бұрын
Is it already over for Roglic?
@samcooke2742
@samcooke2742 5 ай бұрын
Chris Horner is like listening to radio broadcasts must have been before TV brought visuals to the audience. He's a fantastic narrator.
@tonilauge5786
@tonilauge5786 5 ай бұрын
Visma smokescreen worked out perfect! Vingegaard much better than expected 🇩🇰 Roglic 👎 alarming weak on Luca Climb Vingegaard telling TV 2 Denmark He was surprised over how good his Leg was, sounding mighty Reliefed On a Podacar stage! Recovery Champ 👍 Phillipsen Monday? A Chance for Mads P also 😜🔝❤️
@michaelw.lassalle1716
@michaelw.lassalle1716 5 ай бұрын
There was no smokescreen, those who watched the released videos regularly know well that he will be in fine form. You just have to analyze the data, and not fall in the storytelling trap. However, Pogacar problems with temperature are always concerning, and he looked a little tired. Temperature could be a deciding factor for this rivalry.
@bazadam6635
@bazadam6635 5 ай бұрын
Can we expect any GC development today?
@sianb1260
@sianb1260 5 ай бұрын
Another great recap. Think Adam Yates shouldn't touch his earpiece just before Tadej's move, possible sign for Jonas to move. Garrett, One thing to note my view had a black section at the bottom so could not see the top items which were being flagged.
@sebulonafrika6006
@sebulonafrika6006 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Chris - what an exciting stage : so glad Remco and Carapaz chased them down
@epincion
@epincion 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Chris great review as always from you. Regarding the stellar ride by Richard Carapaz, it’s likely that a major motivation is he is sticking up two fingers in the face of the Ecuadorian cycling federation who inexplicably left him out of the Ecuadorian cycling team for the upcoming Olympics in Paris. Based on performance he should easily have been on the team but it seems that somebody in Ecuador has a grudge. As to Jonas it was a marvellous day but as Jonas himself noted having only been back on the bike for 6 weeks after 2.5 months off the bike caution is warranted.
@Jenito120
@Jenito120 5 ай бұрын
Your analysis is spot on on bora. Good job chris
@ExplorinDoranRBrown
@ExplorinDoranRBrown 5 ай бұрын
Look at Victor Campanarts’ low drag aero position in that frame! He’s incredible! My man!
@mikedittsche
@mikedittsche 5 ай бұрын
Chris, I was listening to Patrick and Benji over at the Lantern Rouge podcast and they asked themselves if it was clever of Tadej to pull with Jonas if it was putting time into Yates and Ayuso which both have top 5 GC aspirations. I think it was a no brainer for Jonas to pull with Tadej, as he was pulling away from Roglic, Yates and Ayuso. Any thoughts on that?
@dennisdeyoung5428
@dennisdeyoung5428 5 ай бұрын
Jonas had his spidey sense working today! He was on Tadej’s wheel immediately. Then they both (as you noted) worked together!
@user-sj1hz9qw3e
@user-sj1hz9qw3e 5 ай бұрын
Wheel sucking with jvS pulls mainly on downhill sections . Tp will need to let jv do the pulling on longer climbs like 4 et al
@TraderJHart
@TraderJHart 5 ай бұрын
They hardly worked together. Jonas did the bare minimum to not look completely soft and come under fire from fans (has already happened before) or worse, piss Tadej off enough for him to comment post-race. Jonas’s legs were just fine to contribute to a meaningful rotation. He just never does. Maybe he’s smarter tactically over 3 weeks, but he’s boring and irritating to watch sometimes. Jonas is passive and sheepish (always looking over his shoulder; practically paranoid) and relies on team guidance vs. instinct and full-send commitment. He “pulled” today to “save face”. Tadej was clearly not happy with Jonas’s initial reluctance to pull at all.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
🕷️🕸️👊🦋
@redkeyspoke
@redkeyspoke 5 ай бұрын
Hey Chris, do you know the name of that lion mascot you have behind you? 😊
@LadyBird-n2t
@LadyBird-n2t 5 ай бұрын
​@TraderJHart fully agree - they could have taken more time on Roglic and Evanepoel. Jonas is much more deoendant on his team than Tadej... always been. Previous 2 Tours... only the team that made it possible for Jonas. Tadej virtually did it all alone the past 2 years...
@randalh409
@randalh409 5 ай бұрын
What i wonder is if UAE is intentially not looking quite as dominant as expected. It seems to me like Visma is much more at the front, using up their guys. Could UAE be holding back amd saving themselves for when it really matters and then bam, drop the hammer? I would be doing this if i were them.
@ghcheong
@ghcheong 5 ай бұрын
This stage does matter. If you look at the course, the closest stage that matters to this one is stage 4. And we have all seen Tadej dropped on Col du Gulibre in stage 11 in 2022. Jonas has a better ability to grind up these long mountains than Tadej does, so Tadej needed to put the hurt on Jonas on explosive stages like this. Besides, tomorrow is a flat stage. Neither Jonas nor Tadej will be contesting for the stage tomorrow, leaving Jonas more time to recover.
@randalh409
@randalh409 5 ай бұрын
@@ghcheong At most, Pogi could only have gained a handful of seconds on today's stage. The fact that UAE didn't all come to the front on the climb and the fact that Pogi attacked almost at the top of the climb, tells me that they didn't consider this an important stage. If Pogi is not able to gain time in the big mountains, there's very little chance he can win.
@meibing4912
@meibing4912 5 ай бұрын
@@randalh409 Visma thought it was a Pogi/UAE stage - they went up that hill more than once. Of course UAE thought the same. Look at what happened before. That hill decides races. A big win for Visma that Vingegaard is on par after the two first stages when everyone thought Pogi was going to do a sweep like at the Giro. Pogi has now missed 2 out of 3 chances the first week - and Vingegaard previously dominated Pogi in week 2 and 3. As Lance Armstrong said after the race; they are celebrating in the Visma team bus and scratching heads in the UAE bus. Pogi is not beaten, but its not looking anything like a Giro repeat.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
Yep. 👍🦋
@swisstopia
@swisstopia 5 ай бұрын
Thanks team Horner, for making the TdF even better than it already is! 🦋👊
@billpace9104
@billpace9104 5 ай бұрын
How about those speed wobbles on that Bianchi as Vauquelin crossed the line. He had a hard time taking his hands off the bars!
@janehiswife6793
@janehiswife6793 5 ай бұрын
I just laughed when Tadej "attacked" only to grab a water bottle and sit up ... what a play! He's toying with JV..."let's see whatcha got!"
@sabugdalantx
@sabugdalantx 5 ай бұрын
Good review Chris. I am also happy looking like Richie getting stronger and his form is getting better after poor spring. I maybe the only who believes he can be in the podium over Remco and Roglic
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589
@fabiovalentinuzzi5589 5 ай бұрын
I think Tadej at the arrival tried to avoid getting the jersey, I think he was even trying to get a 1 sec gap just to be sure not to get the jersey
@nem3th
@nem3th 5 ай бұрын
It definetly looked that way, he even jumped out of the finishing group not to be in the front before finish line.
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong 5 ай бұрын
Why didn't he brake to get a gap then?
@johan_519
@johan_519 5 ай бұрын
It was indeed intentional. He apparently said it to Remco after the finish.
@martinyeager7948
@martinyeager7948 5 ай бұрын
I thought so too. Hard to believe he can think of that during such a tough stage and race. Very Smart.
@michaels2916
@michaels2916 5 ай бұрын
Two Frenchmen win from the break to start this off. Will this be the year of the breakaway?
@mariusmanoiu2228
@mariusmanoiu2228 5 ай бұрын
I guess the french found Jumbos orange juice from last year pretty strange since 1968 tour de France no french riders won the first 2 stages
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
It could be. 🤔🦋👊🔥
@victoriacarter3566
@victoriacarter3566 5 ай бұрын
I miss hearing your thoughts on NBC, but I love the channel. Thanks for your dedication! P.S. for the rest of my life, he'll forever be MyManVictorCampenaerts. It makes me smile every time.
@jordanburns4041
@jordanburns4041 5 ай бұрын
Well I'm glad Pogacar has the Yellow Jersey, but today's stage was not a hard finish to drop Vingegaard enough so of course he can follow Pogacar up the 3rd category climbs and then flat the rest of the way. No doubt Vingegaard has form right now on flat roads and little climbs, but Pogacar attacking made no sense to me cause it was flat after he attacked like how is he gonna gain time on Vingegaard 😂 I think we need to see how Vingegaard does up an actual mountain finish and can he not get dropped from Pogacar up a mountain. Other than that I'm glad it worked out either way but he could have saved energy since it was a flat finish and he wasn't gonna lose Vingegaard.🤨🦋🦋
@MrOrlie3
@MrOrlie3 5 ай бұрын
Pogacar was testing his opponents tbh..he did not go too hard, he wanted to gauge their responsiveness and form
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 5 ай бұрын
Don’t let some of the people hear you say this. They will try and tell you that Jonas staying on Pogs wheel after a 5 second acceleration (watch the video, it’s literally 5 seconds before they go right and left under the arches) means that Jonas winning the tour is a forgone conclusion. Now don’t get me wrong, this shows some form from both as they did manage to gap everyone but Carapaz (lol 😂.. Carapaz) but this was such a short effort and these guys had a pretty easy day up to this point. Glad to see Jonas, Pog, and Remco showing form. But some people are talking so definitively about the race. Just silly talk. Whatever happens after stage 4 I’ll start to listen though!
@erichgerber251
@erichgerber251 5 ай бұрын
Exactly right - today doesn’t prove too much. Let’s see the mountains first.
@OcotilloCanyon
@OcotilloCanyon 5 ай бұрын
Pog tried to slow at the last to give yellow to Remco....Pog will win at the end, but he does not need or want yellow so early with so many GC with same time
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
Jonas has some that’s for sure. Pogi too 🇫🇷🔥🦋👊💪
@jeffgerber4122
@jeffgerber4122 5 ай бұрын
Could Tadej & Jonas not keep away from the other GC riders? Or did Jonas slow it down because he wants other teams helping him chase Tadej in further stages? Or is it something else?
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 5 ай бұрын
They just slowed. I wouldn’t read into it too much other than that.
@Red5StayOnTarget
@Red5StayOnTarget 5 ай бұрын
I don’t think Jonas was actually pulling hard or even long enough. Which caused Tadej to slow up. I think it was foolish not to really gap the other gc contenders.
@user-sj1hz9qw3e
@user-sj1hz9qw3e 5 ай бұрын
​@dorianwaller8796 yep jv only went hard when he and primoz were trying to drop kuss in spain
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
Jonas was especially carefully (very smart of him) not to over do it. So Pogi backed off also (very smart of him also). Then Remco and Carapaz made it. 👊👊🇫🇷🔥
@DavidDudley-yy2ui
@DavidDudley-yy2ui 5 ай бұрын
@@Red5StayOnTarget I agree it did JV no good, they probably could have made a gap that remco could not close.
@DanielSchönfeld-n6u
@DanielSchönfeld-n6u 5 ай бұрын
The big question IMO will be whether at least two of Ayuso, Almeida and Yates are stronger than Matteo Jorgensen. Because then they can distance Jorgensen with at least 3 riders of UAE incl Pogi at the front. they can play the games with JV and he needs to follow these attacks because they can also be a threat for the yellow jersey.
@felipealves7177
@felipealves7177 5 ай бұрын
Someone like João Almeida winning TDF is a lose for UAE...
@franciscopontesvelasco4315
@franciscopontesvelasco4315 5 ай бұрын
I didnt have any doubts about Vinegard shape but he cleared up all the doubts just in case lol
@SuperNoname17
@SuperNoname17 5 ай бұрын
It's to soon yet to get a more definitive picture of the brutal fights that will arrive on the 2nd week, must wait to the much longer climbs to see if Jonas could really fight t'il the last stage of this tour !!! 21st stage ITT 34,4 km which includes a category 2 climb !!! All this after more than 3500 km !?!?
@brianmartindale2221
@brianmartindale2221 5 ай бұрын
TDF is shapin up!!! French guys are winning in Italy and the GC group is getting thick. I may need a sprint stage just to calm down lol
@bagobitz
@bagobitz 5 ай бұрын
my man Victor Campenaerts 🤜🤛
@la53tj
@la53tj 5 ай бұрын
Your commentary is so much better than peacocks ….Thank you
@stansolo4138
@stansolo4138 5 ай бұрын
Chris did you see the knucklehead fan lying in the road on the climb at 11.35. What was he thinking ?
@WouterDieks
@WouterDieks 5 ай бұрын
But where was Primoz?
@realekm
@realekm 5 ай бұрын
In the end, Pog didn’t want the yellow so soon. UAE will now be under pressure.
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 5 ай бұрын
If he finished two places behind Remco tomorrow then he will lose yellow. If you can place a bet on Remco crossing the line before Pog on stage 3 then hammer that bet. Put your house on it! And please let me know if you find that bet lololol
@OcotilloCanyon
@OcotilloCanyon 5 ай бұрын
Correct....Pog admitted this to Remco, as he hoped Remco would get the yellow because he slowed at the last....look at JB2
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
Sprinters will do all the work tomorrow. 💪🦋👊
@LarsRyeJeppesen
@LarsRyeJeppesen 5 ай бұрын
​@@J-cz7yvit's a sprint stage
@kieranbarry8193
@kieranbarry8193 5 ай бұрын
@@ChrisHornerCycling yeah but UAE will end up doing all the work in the Alps on tuesday which is, i guess, what Pogi was trying to avoid
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong 5 ай бұрын
I don't expect too much from stage 4, with the long descent finish I doubt GC riders will attack in the climb 100%. Probably only if one of the other GC riders starts losing time, that might motivate the others to go all out, but I wouldn't be surprised if they all stay together over the top.
@AljazPetric
@AljazPetric 5 ай бұрын
Bora wanting Dsm to chase and losing time in GC is just the top of knucklheadism.
@matthillard9363
@matthillard9363 5 ай бұрын
Hindley and vlasov where in position for the final climb. What do they have to do....tie a rope to his bike so he doesn't get lost?
@abdullahsaud623
@abdullahsaud623 5 ай бұрын
I think bora knew that dsm CANNOT cover the move..but bora had bad legs of roglic and have to wait for him
@abuckeye26
@abuckeye26 5 ай бұрын
Chris, we saw the same from Tadej last year though. Started strong than in weeks 2-3 he faded. I suspect the same to happen to Jonas due to the crash and not racing or having his full training schedule
@meibing4912
@meibing4912 5 ай бұрын
Experts expect Vingegaard to get stronger for every day of racing. Time will tell...
@matthillard9363
@matthillard9363 5 ай бұрын
​@@meibing4912exactly. Same story as last year. Hot weather and big climbs aren't tadej's best friends. Jonas gets stronger. It'll come down to team support and riding smart. We know when jonas goes on the big climbs he can gain minutes on pog. These early punchy stages, I thought pog would be gaining time and applying pressure. I seeing there is a sickness in the uae squad atm as pog said he was sick before the race started and had just gotten over it. Almeida and ayuso hanging back just doesn't make sense. Stage 4 will reveal what's going on
@matthillard9363
@matthillard9363 5 ай бұрын
Riding 180km for 2-3 days can't be much fun.
@bluetexture
@bluetexture 5 ай бұрын
You are Chris Horner from F1 RedBull?
@jonathanzappala
@jonathanzappala 5 ай бұрын
Sleeping in on the west coast? I’ve been waiting patiently today for you to drop this on the east coast 😂
@ernestporee3697
@ernestporee3697 5 ай бұрын
Good ! It's not going to be a cake walk for pog like the Giro ! If this is Jonas in recovery mode then we have a proper race ! Cause he's back ...
@stevenmeyer9674
@stevenmeyer9674 5 ай бұрын
I'm a little bummed there were no "knuckleheads"
@stevesims-d6c
@stevesims-d6c 5 ай бұрын
only some spectators
@matthillard9363
@matthillard9363 5 ай бұрын
Chick with the phone and rog riding 20th plus wheel on the final climb??? Some serious threat he's turned into this year considering both his Dom's where in position
@singh0003
@singh0003 5 ай бұрын
how do these riders catch back on after a mechanical? we can't in my group, and its nearly impossible to close a minute gap, forget longer....are these riders just "hitching a ride" from car windows?
@MrBradfordchild
@MrBradfordchild 5 ай бұрын
They’re allowed to draft the cars until they get back to the peloton.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
The caravan draft (not holding on to the car, too often;) allows the riders to get back to the peloton. If there was no caravan it would take a whole team or at least Wout to you back on. 👊🦋🤪
@christopheralix8554
@christopheralix8554 5 ай бұрын
Hey Chris, you are probably busy but on the move recap from stage 1 Lance made the comment that HEAT more than anything else kills Performance. More than altitude. Made me think of your habit of heat acclimation over altitude
@johndoiron9615
@johndoiron9615 5 ай бұрын
Carapaz intrigues me. He could be a wild card for the podium.
@ChrisHornerCycling
@ChrisHornerCycling 5 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to see Carapaz does in the high mountains. It wouldn’t be a big surprise to see him very good. 🤔🏔️ 🦋👊
@VV_1989
@VV_1989 5 ай бұрын
I'm playing a fantasy cycling game called Tourmanager and I immediately put him on my team after yesterday's stage. It's a risk, but one I'm willing to take for a guy of his potential.
@k-towncinty
@k-towncinty 5 ай бұрын
UAE ayuso has been missing for two stages(As Usual)
@dr.merlot1532
@dr.merlot1532 5 ай бұрын
But where was G Thomas?
@Woohampshire9945
@Woohampshire9945 5 ай бұрын
another great butterfly effect mr horner, till tomorrow
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