Taking On Tony IX: Pride & Smoke

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Lloyd Evans

Lloyd Evans

Күн бұрын

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@erinhodgkins5715
@erinhodgkins5715 Жыл бұрын
Years ago 1986 to be precise. Tony was an overseer in my Kingdom Hall and I was a full-time pioneer. My biological family knew Tony and his family for years and was described as a faithful man, so when he was selling a car I immediately knew he would not screw me over....I bought the car after saving 750 dollars and within 2 weeks it broke down and could not be repaired. I tried to talk with him, my brother tried to talk to him and Tony was completely unapproachable about the whole ordeal. I always found him arrogant and off the mark of a true disciple of their so called God of Love
@Ballykeith
@Ballykeith Жыл бұрын
That's the definitive answer to, "Would you buy a used car from this man?"
@scottymeffz5025
@scottymeffz5025 Жыл бұрын
I guess the money for the car is gone but I hope you've found your way out of the cult :)
@skippy1012
@skippy1012 Жыл бұрын
You have got your revenge almost 40 years after.
@delphinawhiles6235
@delphinawhiles6235 Жыл бұрын
This is why I take the time to read others comments. Sometimes there's real gems in there. Learning about the talk he gave about homosexuals coming back in the resurrection that they will need to change or suffer eternal destruction; it was soooo disgusting n insensitive of him. His on nephew had committed suicide over this. Disfellowshipped, shunned by his family (bar his sis who eventually started to associate with him n I'd say 100"%, that talk told her to wake up. He had only been dead a few weeks or mths. So what u said about the car I believe u. I had this discussion with my believing husband yesterday. He was trying to tell me that jws r the true org that God has chosen, starting to tell me the identifying marks eg gods name; who use it. I answered not just jws. In Africa it is widely known n used (we use to have a bible study with an africian family b4 they moved). Then he said the preaching work. I said turn your TV on sun morning n see the nos these evangilizers get to their churches. Jws r not the only preachers. Then I said, im out, a big reason why is witnessing the lack of love, right down to the cong I left for numerous reasons. I left the previous cong for same reason. But being a true believer then still, I reasoned not gods fault but imperfect men (the indoctrination that we need to be forgiving, turn the other cheek. If your forgiven 7 times, go for 77 n keep adding more 7s. The power given to elders is a joke. The co, bethel, noone can reverse a decision unless u say to bethel the words they hate, legal action. Then it's 50/50 but at least u have taken control of the power yourself. My friend did this......all the elders in my opinion should have been disfellowshipped......... but at least a new elder was called in to clean up the mess. All elders were stripped of their positions. They hated my friend even more bc of their arrogance, wolves in sheep's clothing. Taken me yrs to come to this conclusion. I didn't leave overnight. There's a few nice ones who do care. But to truly succeed in these top jobs right to the top u have to be a yes man.
@erinhodgkins5715
@erinhodgkins5715 Жыл бұрын
@skippy1012 no revenge wanted! I was born into this religion was told never to question people in position because they were placed there by God. I have always questioned why people are allowed to do evil and usually its because they are evil...I'm just glad I left that organization and live my life the way that makes me 😊
@Vicki_Benji
@Vicki_Benji Жыл бұрын
"Pride is before a crash." Tony Morris crashed hard!
@MrCanis4
@MrCanis4 Жыл бұрын
Or he quietly "Vanish in to smoke." 😂😂😂
@KitKatSukiKat
@KitKatSukiKat Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
I miss Uncle Tony. It's because of him that I'm awake today.
@sydhill8173
@sydhill8173 Жыл бұрын
How’d he do it, I’m nosey
@MrDMC11889
@MrDMC11889 Жыл бұрын
Lett can be get pretty goofy as well.
@delphinawhiles6235
@delphinawhiles6235 Жыл бұрын
I'll think of him every time I wear my leggins (honestly my fav comfy outfit from the gym to shopping. He told ones like me, inappropriate that sort of wear should be for the house. Mm I certainly don't go into liquor shops n buy up expensive scotch like him n then do my best to conceal it. I'd say to him look in the mirror at yourself b4 u tight pants the bros n have a go at sis for leggins. Well he has all the time in the world now to hopefully better himself. I honestly hope he starts with addressing his drinking, for just himself, alcoholics r in denial n then gets therapy from a therapist hecfeels comfortable with to address his PTSD (which makes sense with what he saw in the war). Unfortunately if we don't deal with these issues n try n block them out, they eventually reservice. His outward appearance clearly didn't match the turmoil he was experiencing in his brain. Sadly the governing body members dont understand mental illness, otherwise they would have such a professional on site. Im being serious, when they have needed head lawyers eg toole in aust (royal comm) they sent him to uni....yer I know...shock horror....do as I say...notvas I do. I grew up with higher education being a no no as Armageddon was approaching n such people n drs won't be needed but plumbers, carpenters etc will be. Even Tony I think it was gave a talk on this. Others in bethel have also been chosen to go to uni when they needed such a person. So why not send a willing (I'd say sister.......but sadly when 3 men r in the backroom it's male. So why not send 2 of them to uni to study physiology to address alcoholism, family problems (then when putting out those horrendous ptsd videos about blended families. I mean who writes the script. Is it the jerk in the writing committee. These videos need professional help to be realistic n help families to blend. Teens thatvr grieving over a parents death n a possession they hold onto n treasure, the parent throws it in the trash. That video should be trashed n rewritten to help these kids cope. Hence why I say a professional on board. Ubdont go to uni for 4 or 5 yrs to twiddle your thumbs. N don't get me started on the sexual abuse cases that 3 men (with no experience in r going to handle internally n/or tell a victim she was a willing participant n the degrading, most horrific, demoralising questions they make the victim go through. This is not thetevjob. It's up to a professional who is trained to be kind n loving n respectful. My male friend went through this as an adult with the questions. He was horrified n screamed back at them no. It was sooo wrong. Judged as pornea. Gave wife grounds for divorse. Destroyed him to this day actually. Broke the family up. 2 youngest boys traumatised, left with mum .......hardly went to school the last 2yrs of high school. Bible says liars won't inherit gods kingdom, she got away with all hers n hasn't changed till now. Identifying mark to true Christianity is in abundance in this org who claim to be gods people who they only will make it to the other side n live happily in paradise. What a joke. Most witnesses rvlike anyone else, family problems, dysfunctional people n families putting up a appearance dressed in suits n fine clothes, ans at meetings in accordance with the script in front of them wt n pretend to be these Christians, shunning people, marking others, lying out witnessing as to why theyvr there n then go home n cont the lie they portray with their dysfunction. I came from such a family. I use to think as a teen it was only us. Now I know differently. Dysfunction is rampant whether the fsmily has religion or not. U dont need to be in a divided family either.
@ohgawd
@ohgawd Жыл бұрын
​@@MrDMC11889Lett did it for me. The last assembly I attended he was there and afterwards, they made a receiving line that wrapped around the building for people to meet and have their picture taken with him. Talk about idolatry!!!!
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
@@delphinawhiles6235 - I once mentioned to an elder that the Watchtower should include training in psychology. You can imagine his face after I said that.
@bigboithe8th
@bigboithe8th Жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony was certainly entertaining during his tenure. At least we still have Lett and his outlandish and cartoonish speaking to pick up the slack. RIP Anthony Morris. Vanished like a puff of smoke.
@cryptojedii
@cryptojedii Жыл бұрын
Oh he died??? I didn't know that! Wow
@bigboithe8th
@bigboithe8th Жыл бұрын
@@cryptojedii oh Lord. Where have u been? No he didn’t die.
@Hesguilty
@Hesguilty Жыл бұрын
Lett's whole style is so annoying.
@vponce7997
@vponce7997 9 ай бұрын
Someone said lett speaks like that because he has turrets
@daniSteph19
@daniSteph19 Жыл бұрын
The audacity! He practically described himself in that talk ...SMH🤦‍♀️
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
They always do that. It's like politicians. They describe themselves and what they are doing as it were others who were doing and behaving as such.
@charrua59
@charrua59 Жыл бұрын
Have too realise This people been locked up in convent for decades surrounded by yes men. They are completely out of touch with society, reality and themselves. No one in New testament lived like them. It's an insanity 😂
@fyt54321
@fyt54321 Жыл бұрын
Tony got Tossed! Demobilized, discharged, "shown the door". We're all going to miss Mr. Morris. Pride do be goin' before the fall Tony. "We'll always have Bethel, and Macallan." Nobody could moralize quite like Tony Morris. We should all go out tonight and wear tight pants in memory of Tony's governing body role.
@user-vo4wc2jz8g
@user-vo4wc2jz8g Жыл бұрын
Tony's Tipple™️ drinking game: Every time he says "smoke" gotta take a shot 😉
@DrOldhen
@DrOldhen Жыл бұрын
I shay, Der. I Nota think as u drunk I'm am. (Hiccup, hiccup, hiccup.)
@mb-the-enby
@mb-the-enby Жыл бұрын
Alcohol poisoning 😂
@angelamaryquitecontrary4609
@angelamaryquitecontrary4609 Жыл бұрын
I huffed on my vape - very innocent, no drugs available, as I am in the UK. It was still pretty good though, and I am proud of having done it. Cheerio!
@jakelynbrook
@jakelynbrook Жыл бұрын
I get it! Smoke is a poor indicator of thinking 🤔 more of yourself than you should! 17:56
@ohgawd
@ohgawd Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching this sh*t and telling us because I can't do it anymore!
@hanneivanovic2465
@hanneivanovic2465 Жыл бұрын
YES!it is nauseating
@diana7915
@diana7915 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I don’t know how Lloyd does it. Thank you for keeping me informed as to what my mother is hearing.
@agevenisse3252
@agevenisse3252 Жыл бұрын
Playing with matches is dangerous. He ended up wrapped in smoke, and then he vanished like smoke.
@Vbreychak7212
@Vbreychak7212 Жыл бұрын
Tony reminds me of why I got caught up on my sleep at the Kingdom Hall as a teenager. I would literally put on a dress and do my hair and makeup just to take a nap there. Lol
@lauralarrabee7870
@lauralarrabee7870 Жыл бұрын
The best sleep I ever got was at the KH
@badger1296
@badger1296 Жыл бұрын
"I am not a crook. And that's not me blowing smoke!"
@leooliver8196
@leooliver8196 11 ай бұрын
Kkkkkkkk ele é um safado um demo io
@southernbawselady7092
@southernbawselady7092 Жыл бұрын
I heard Tony Morris was working as a Liquor Warehouse Manager!! 🤣🤣🤣
@hrh2842
@hrh2842 Жыл бұрын
LOL, really. Thanks.
@creativerealms
@creativerealms Жыл бұрын
While wearing tight pants?
@creativerealms
@creativerealms Жыл бұрын
While wearing tight pants?
@agevenisse3252
@agevenisse3252 Жыл бұрын
In the quality assurance department? 😅
@chrissapp9243
@chrissapp9243 Жыл бұрын
And since he started, profits are way down 😂
@victoriagolmehdi8506
@victoriagolmehdi8506 Жыл бұрын
I used to think he perhaps had a speech impediment which led to slurring and that we could not be sure that he was intoxicated. However from this video, his speech is actually clear. I can only conclude that that during the majority of the talks I have seen, he has been smashed.
@bondimedia8494
@bondimedia8494 Жыл бұрын
Tony speaking in the Spirits and rambling on is my favorite to watch your commentary on the Leadership
@kellyp3256
@kellyp3256 Жыл бұрын
If we compare this talk to others, it seems that he's strikingly less animated, engaged, and seems a bit sad -- I'm curious as to whether he already knew he was on his way out.
@angelamaryquitecontrary4609
@angelamaryquitecontrary4609 Жыл бұрын
Maybe hungover, rather than just hog-whimperingly drunk.
@geraniumroseum
@geraniumroseum Жыл бұрын
Možná už se chystal odejít sám. Třeba napíše knihu o svém odchodu. Jako Franz.
@NoJediMindTrick
@NoJediMindTrick Жыл бұрын
I really don't think it has to do with alcoholism or CSA. I really believe something else has gone down. Maybe he's had an awakening and he's probably been feeling PIMO for a while. When you've got all of your family in this cult, it's hard to leave. I'd like to believe he got tired of the BS changes within the Org. They're on their way to a physical death on this Earth. No world ending. Now, it's all about FLEEING? He's probably voiced that this has gotten WAY out of hand.
@moviefiend44
@moviefiend44 Жыл бұрын
That's why I thought that when he said that Satan is targeting the Governing Body, he was referring to escalating tensions WITHIN the Body, not growing opposition from OUTSIDE of it. There's at least one other exJW KZbinr that thinks the same thing. In which case, his somewhat sober demeanor makes more sense. He is indeed under siege - but not from the outside. It's coming from the INSIDE.
@mrbizness1
@mrbizness1 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Keep up the good work!🍺
@dennisconstantine624
@dennisconstantine624 Жыл бұрын
And the Governing body aren’t puffed up with pride?
@karenwestberg5838
@karenwestberg5838 Жыл бұрын
They sure expect to be looked way up to by the “rank and file”. The Watchtower demands loyalty as though it is on a pedestal. Can’t the ‘governing body’ see itself in Tony Morris’s talk?! They should all be seriously squirming.
@DrOldhen
@DrOldhen Жыл бұрын
TONY # 10 Lloyd: Um, we have as a ...(excited giggle and wiping of brow) guest that eeh, (nearly hysterical uncontrolled short laugh) well, without further Adu... TONY MORRIS, HIMSELF. (as Tony himself) [Your eyes big and round and now scratching your head as you shake it] TONY: I'd like to thank you Llyod... For having me on at a spur of the moment interview as to why I left "The Borg" as you have called it. (He sets 2 shot cordial glasses on the table and pours you both 1 from the most exquisite alcohol available, and says with a lil wink, "give me a drink , give me a drink, give me a drink, ... You know if the Bible says something 3 times, you best pay attention..."
@DietlindeJanssen
@DietlindeJanssen Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 Lovely! 😂
@3Blindspot3
@3Blindspot3 Жыл бұрын
Dang my dude I haven’t watch the video in a while and you look totally different. Awesome. I can tell you lost some weight I like the new style keep up the good work as I am still living with my JW grandparents I don’t want to give up on them but they are stuck in their ways. But thanks to your work and others. I will never go back to the cult💀
@carolszelestei388
@carolszelestei388 Жыл бұрын
He's no longer a Governing Body member, but we'll always have the Bottle King in Ramsey, NJ.
@themanmachine125
@themanmachine125 Жыл бұрын
this was such a bizarre nonsensical rant delivered in such a dour, gloomy manner ...wtf does "wrapped in smoke" even mean and how does that work as a metaphor for pride? i've been out 10+ years and i'm surprised at how far the org has fallen, what has happened to these people?
@orene3241
@orene3241 Жыл бұрын
It could be that the Governing Body members have always been more or less this way but you didn't notice it. You left the JWs before the GB members started to regularly appear in video taped broadcasts. I'm pretty sure that Lloyd (who got out of the JWs in 2014) said that JW broadcasting started right after he left and that before that most JWs didn't know the GB members by face or name.
@user-vo4wc2jz8g
@user-vo4wc2jz8g Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's an absolutely miserable and gloomy snoozefest 😐
@KitKatSukiKat
@KitKatSukiKat Жыл бұрын
@@orene3241yes!! They really screwed themselves by going public.
@timbothegreat7767
@timbothegreat7767 Жыл бұрын
Since when has being puffed up meant that? Doesn’t it mean inflated with your own self importance? Not smoke as in literal smoke that means you can’t see anything ?!?!
@user-vo4wc2jz8g
@user-vo4wc2jz8g Жыл бұрын
@@KitKatSukiKat so true! Now their deranged corny weird ramblings are on full display 😆
@jessicalee9282
@jessicalee9282 Жыл бұрын
I think it would be cool to do a video with a bunch of clips strung together to illustrate the not so subtle way the governing body programs it’s followers to be mindless. IE: meek, long suffering,have faith, don’t question, don’t pollute your mind with bad associations, have low self esteem and hate yourself. Ect…
@delphinawhiles6235
@delphinawhiles6235 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@barrymorrison8013
@barrymorrison8013 Жыл бұрын
We will probably never know the full story but you never know, this organization moves further from reality every year. Bye Bye Tony and so long. Be well Lloyd and again, stay safe. Thanks for this.
@jordanhalkier81
@jordanhalkier81 Жыл бұрын
How did Millions of Jehovah's Witnesses see this man as being "wise" His narcissism is so telling everytime he speaks.
@MrCanis4
@MrCanis4 Жыл бұрын
People who believe in a bronze age worldview in very hard for me to grasp, but people who follow this dude, man, I'm lost.
@PimoCanuck
@PimoCanuck Жыл бұрын
In recent years, Tony became obsessed with condemnation, punnishmemt and destruction. Maybe some unresolved PTSD from his years in the military? Whatever it is/was; he really must have done something to be 'removed' or be allowed to step aside. Many in the JW 'rank & file' have no idea he's even gone. The announcement on JWOrg was removed after a few days.
@b.w.7588
@b.w.7588 Жыл бұрын
@PimoCanuck, That is an interesting possibility that Morris's obsession with divine punishment could be influenced by his experiences during the Vietnam War.
@KitKatSukiKat
@KitKatSukiKat Жыл бұрын
Ohhhh, love the shirt 👕💜 😉
@AM.I.INACOMA
@AM.I.INACOMA Жыл бұрын
I suspect this wasn’t aimed at Satan. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was aimed at Sanderson. He’s the newb. His approach is quite different to Tony’s…old corporate v. new corporate. They’ve probably been beefing for awhile. Tony probably sensed he was being ousted & decided to make use of one of his ever lessening speaking opportunities to be throw some shade in a “subtle” way.
@luckystephies2467
@luckystephies2467 Жыл бұрын
I just had a convention my cousin got baptized at 11 it’s hard to act happy for him knowing he being exploited and forced to grow up he lost his sister so I feel like they just use that against him with the whole “resurrection” idea
@scottymeffz5025
@scottymeffz5025 Жыл бұрын
11? That's so tough. A decision that can cause you to lose your family and friends should not be made at 11 :(
@RavingKats
@RavingKats Жыл бұрын
Visual image of Satan ripping a bong 😂 I feel like this lecture only makes sense if I'm drunk. Kinda loose associations there Tight Pants T. He's lost me lol Smoke on Water....
@bigcorky4687
@bigcorky4687 Жыл бұрын
A cloud of smoke from whatever weed he was puffing on before he filmed this, what a guy sadly missed, maybe he'll start a breakaway group called the smokin JW,s😂
@gailcullinan
@gailcullinan Жыл бұрын
Lloyd. I have a pertinent question for the remaining JW Governing Body Members. I hope that it reaches them via your channel here. I have heard, been told and watched your video confirming that Gov Body Members claim that an angel of God came to each of them claiming that they are the chosen and anointed of the 144k and that same is exclusive to being a Governing Body Member. IF this is correct and or true, then how can a Gov Body Member be thrown off their Board by the other members and thereby un-anoint this Member and by all logic go against their lessons herein? This must be an extremely difficult dilemma for the mind-controlled followers. Would followers even think this far or are they too brainwashed? And what concoction have the Gov Body come up with to further mislead and deceive their followers?
@Jackson-r8t
@Jackson-r8t Жыл бұрын
Tony Morris intuitively knew his time being at the governing body and his career there was going to go up in smoke. Hahaha, thus the strange talk on smoke as he was unconsciously implying that his efforts, aspirations, or expectations were ultimately futile and is to end in smoke. He knew it was coming, he was anticipating it, and that it will come and end up in smoke. Poor Tony his prophecy came true and for him everything did end up in smoke. Gone with the wind.
@tiiatuuli339
@tiiatuuli339 Жыл бұрын
He was talking about other GB members. No wonder he got kicked out.
@linasalinas7245
@linasalinas7245 Жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony, the scotch adviser...only for the connoisseur! 😂😅🥂salud amigos! Greetings from 🇨🇦 Vancouver 🌄
@juliepeat4402
@juliepeat4402 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you in a shirt Lloyd
@EmilySolem-Davis
@EmilySolem-Davis Жыл бұрын
It would be weird to see Tony make another appearance in a video. It’d be like him jumping out of a box and yelling surprise.
@leooliver8196
@leooliver8196 11 ай бұрын
Kkkkkkkkkkkk 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@KitKatSukiKat
@KitKatSukiKat Жыл бұрын
I miss him 😢
@Jacar50
@Jacar50 Жыл бұрын
Is poor Tony being shunned from being abolished from the governing body 😂😂😂😂
@margiehelberg4594
@margiehelberg4594 Жыл бұрын
As an ex JW myself I have from time to time watched your videos and found them to be objective and insightful. However, I am concerned about you because after I had cast off their yoke I had no faith in anything and felt forlorn, confused and depressed. I was very young, only 22 but then I was blessed to meet a man who was so compassionate and understanding that I fell deeply in love with him. He was humble and had a beautiful spirituality and put me under no pressure but simply took me to church with him and read the Bible for us before we went to sleep. This healed my soul and made me embrace the true gospel of love and grace. I pray that you will not be disillusioned by religion as I was, but that you will simply begin reading the Bible where you will find the truth for yourself. You don't need other books or other people to "convince" you of anything. It is not bad to point out false teachings and hypocrisy by the JWs but ask yourself if you gain anything by it to enrich your life and grow your spirit. Much love
@leeleemee
@leeleemee Жыл бұрын
Did Lloyd say “bottle-gate”? 🥴🤣
@janespitfire9884
@janespitfire9884 Жыл бұрын
I hope he writes a tell all book. Then Lloyd comes on your KZbin channel
@sandhollowneko
@sandhollowneko Жыл бұрын
My mom said that in the congregation we used to attend they said that Tony was suffering from dementia and that's why he was removed. Congregation was kind of nuts though.
@Isabel-wy7wk
@Isabel-wy7wk Жыл бұрын
You need to remind your mother that the org do not remove a government member due to illness
@sandhollowneko
@sandhollowneko Жыл бұрын
@@Isabel-wy7wk Ok.. I really don't care why they remove people or don't. After what they did to me I don't trust any of their decisions. I do have to make it clear that this was not my mom's thoughts it was an announcement in the congregation. But again they make stuff up all the time and wing it most of the time. It does make you think that if the whole bottle gate thing happened because Tony regressed to a time where he'd go to liquor stores and purchase the high end scotch. They might think to remove him because he could theoretically cause more social damage to the organization be it through his fault or not.
@EmilySolem-Davis
@EmilySolem-Davis Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if I would actually get anything out of those crazy ramblings.
@nethalus
@nethalus Жыл бұрын
No more Tight Pants Tony!!!
@cherylseebreth328
@cherylseebreth328 Жыл бұрын
And we are wondering why he was axed? 😅😅
@angelamaryquitecontrary4609
@angelamaryquitecontrary4609 Жыл бұрын
I was looking in the mirror, doing my face creams etc, with my tablet on in the bathroom. I'd wager my face aged five years just from listening to him, as I watched in fascinated horror. Christ, I've never even been a JW!
@sgt.Eckels
@sgt.Eckels Жыл бұрын
Do you think Tony may have been struggling with his own crisis of conscience. And was calling out his peers on the GB with this rant "arrogant, prideful, ambition, wrapped in smoke, Having to live with decision everyday". Just a thought. He may have been at some level knowingly talking about himself and GB friends. Considering the talk he gave, we're he shared his experience of 1975.
@peterrebhahn1113
@peterrebhahn1113 Жыл бұрын
We don't actually know that Tony Morris was "unceremoniously stripped" of his governing body status, do we? We only know he's no longer a governing body member because Watchtower has said so. While the most plausible explanation is that he was ousted, there are other possible explanations. Just one: Suppose his wife was unhappy about living what's left of her life in the Bethel bubble and gave Tony an ultimatum? We've all heard the one about, "Happy wife, happy life," right? Maybe Tony said to the other governing body members, "I need out." And Lett et al reminded him that he signed up for a lifetime hitch, and Tony said, "I know, and I'm sorry guys, but this has to happen." Which presented Watchtower with a public relations problem because all JWs know that a GB hitch is a lifetime gig, and having to backtrack publicly on that with Tony left them with egg on their faces. Which would explain the terse announcement of his departure -- they were unhappy with him leaving. In that scenario, Watchtower would, indeed, have been upset with him -- just not for the reason(s) everyone suspects. In other words, they actually weren't unhappy with his performance and didn't want him to go. Instead, they were unhappy with having to tell the world he was out and, by logical extension, that the faithful and discreet slave may not be what it's cracked up to be. I'm a never-in retired newspaper reporter and editor. If we didn't know it, we didn't say it. Morris is an odious man and not trying to defend him, just sayin' ...
@eyesontheprize5
@eyesontheprize5 Жыл бұрын
Logically they wouldn't be deleting his parts off of the website if he wasn't removed.
@toriwolf5978
@toriwolf5978 Жыл бұрын
It’s sad wish people would just let him be and live out the rest his life with everyone tearing him down enough is enough just my opinion
@b.w.7588
@b.w.7588 Жыл бұрын
@@toriwolf5978 , He was a public figure to be fair. Considering his behavior as a Governing Body member, I don't believe that he has earned or deserves to be viewed with any amount of respect. Any criticism that the man has received, he probably earned, in my opinion. It should not matter how old he is, it shouldn't matter even if he were dealing with a serious illness (though I'd never wish any harm upon him,), it wouldn't matter even if he were dead -- Tony Morris should not be exempt from criticism. The man made such a jackass of himself. From his condemnation of JWs wearing tight-fitting pants to his blatant and unapologetic homophobia; to his shaming of JW women who weren't married to a JW man who hadn't been appointed as Ministerial Servants by their late 20s, to his shaming of inactive Witnesses being blood-guilty at Armageddon, to avoid answering any questions being posed to him by journalist Trey Bundy concerning the Watchtower Society's mishandling of child sexual abuse within their denomination -- I feel that the man deserves every bit of condemnation that he's received from his critics. If he doesn't want to be torn down, then maybe he should have been more considerate about his words and behavior. I feel that if he doesn't like being criticized or challenged, well then, that's really just too bad for Anthony Morris. I think he has earned that criticism and condemnation. Respect must be earned, not freely granted. I feel sorry for him in that he chose and probably still chooses to make a complete ass of himself, but as long as he continues to behave in such a manner, the man will never earn my respect.
@b.w.7588
@b.w.7588 Жыл бұрын
@peterrebhahn1113, Interesting theory regarding his wife. I don't know how she ever could have married that man, much less had kids with him. I couldn't imagine being wed to such a toxic individual. We don't know why he's no longer a Governing Body member, but he could have been kicked out of his position. It's just strange that the Society mentioned nothing about him stepping down due to advancing age or because of health problems or something like that if there was nothing controversial going on with the man. You'd think they would have given some indication as to why he's no longer a Governing Body member.
@geraniumroseum
@geraniumroseum Жыл бұрын
​@@eyesontheprize5a nebo kdyby odešel sám z organizace
@kellyp3256
@kellyp3256 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your generous support of the channel! It means a lot! ❤️
@franstein9277
@franstein9277 Жыл бұрын
He’s warning us against breathing wildfire smoke, lol
@creativerealms
@creativerealms Жыл бұрын
Bye bye Mr. Tight pants.
@jamestreible4545
@jamestreible4545 Жыл бұрын
Smoking AND drinking. That must be why he was removed. It was bound to catch up with him sooner or later.
@danlandavazo1506
@danlandavazo1506 Жыл бұрын
I'm not JW. Whole family is. Full time pioneers Elders. Been around my whole life. Leave Tony alone! A great man. Veteran!!
@freeatlast.
@freeatlast. Жыл бұрын
So great he got the boot, jesus won't be calling him brother anytime soon.
@b.w.7588
@b.w.7588 Жыл бұрын
@danlandavazo1506, While most veterans are probably good people and are most likely worthy of respect, I don't count Anthony Morris III as being amongst that group. I do not give a damn if he's a veteran, King Charles of England's long-lost twin brother or Jesus Christ's uncle. The man hasn't earned and is not deserving of my respect. Respect is something one has to earned. If one is going to act like a douchebag, then that person should be viewed like a douchebag.
@davesandyrobinson
@davesandyrobinson Жыл бұрын
A Veteran What??? I Ask.
@danlandavazo1506
@danlandavazo1506 Жыл бұрын
@@davesandyrobinson He was an amazing man that fought for freedom of religion. His brothers and sisters died . For your rights. I'm not JW!! But I know Heroes.
@b.w.7588
@b.w.7588 Жыл бұрын
@@danlandavazo1506 , That doesn't mean he is deserving of respect. I feel your admiration of the man is rather misplaced. There a plenty of people who fought for religious freedom, including some JWs, whom one can admire. Anthony Morris shouldn't be one of them.
@jayjazz6593
@jayjazz6593 Жыл бұрын
Good one Lloyd 😂
@TrironyCyprus
@TrironyCyprus Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much ❤Loyd
@allyedowd
@allyedowd Жыл бұрын
Temptation! Hahahha.
@donaldwestgarth3313
@donaldwestgarth3313 Жыл бұрын
Oh well off to the bottleo he needs some holy spirit to help him out puff of smoke and he's gone
@MrBrianNZ
@MrBrianNZ Жыл бұрын
Puffed up with pride means wrapped up in smoke Tony ? Here he goes with the smoke Gain. Alcohol must have handled his brain.
@HectorTheCatVarietyChannel
@HectorTheCatVarietyChannel Жыл бұрын
I think He was kicked out for being Tony. LOL
@MrCanis4
@MrCanis4 Жыл бұрын
Or, he took too many smoke breaks.
@hanneivanovic2465
@hanneivanovic2465 Жыл бұрын
SMOKE and mirrors! Preaching a minimalistic lifestyle from the platform.....then spendig close to $800 for luxury scotch....talking about stumbling your fellow believers.
@ShoNuffSoulBro1
@ShoNuffSoulBro1 Жыл бұрын
Wemembah boys & goyls; dwinking high pwoof whisky and playin wif matches don’t MiX ! ! 🥃🤪🔥 POOF 🔥💥😵 Up in SMOKE 💨
@grapevinez6026
@grapevinez6026 7 ай бұрын
He might have been speaking to other GB members here. In my mind there were ongoing internal battles at this point
@jeremiahbatson1
@jeremiahbatson1 Жыл бұрын
I cant find where the ancient Greek word for pride means wrapped in smoke i just see the word Hubris meaning someone who is prideful. So is he even correct in his interpretation of the ancient word or is he just making things up?
@rollo4722
@rollo4722 Жыл бұрын
Anyone defending Tony has every right to do so. But he put himself out there and preached publicly so he is fair game for criticism
@mikebaker8499
@mikebaker8499 Жыл бұрын
There is a complete prohibition on smoking. They will disfellowship you for smoking.
@LuciferEgyptianOsiris
@LuciferEgyptianOsiris Жыл бұрын
It's weird I went to s convention and this man said through simulcast the JEHOVAH WAS HERE AND I LOOKED AT MY DAD AND i SAID ISNT JEHOVAH ALWAYS HERE
@freeatlast.
@freeatlast. Жыл бұрын
Disowned by Jesus, I mean how much worst does it get than that??
@powersv2
@powersv2 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff Lloyd!
@johnward3790
@johnward3790 Жыл бұрын
Any pimos know where he ended up or seen him since his demotion? I’m curious what his demeanor is now.
@leooliver8196
@leooliver8196 11 ай бұрын
Verdade
@SaffronHammer
@SaffronHammer Жыл бұрын
Team Arthur!
@tanyadickens2096
@tanyadickens2096 Жыл бұрын
HE STEPPED DOWN BECAUSE OF SICKNESS FOR HIM AND HIS WIFE. IT WAS HIS CHOICE.
@motorway2roswell
@motorway2roswell Жыл бұрын
I already miss Tony's incoherent ramblings
@vanshankguitars
@vanshankguitars Жыл бұрын
Other than Ray Franz, who else was deposed from the governing body like Tony the Tiger?
@susancarraher7721
@susancarraher7721 Жыл бұрын
No one ever found out why he got tossed? Any ideas? It had to be something really bad wouldn't you think?
@bigsr.644
@bigsr.644 Жыл бұрын
Bottle Gate had him on thin ice This has to be tge biggest fall from grace in JW history Imo Lett is right there too but he's probably learning from TMs choices
@dawncooper1495
@dawncooper1495 Жыл бұрын
Nice shirt!!
@zakbagansfan8234
@zakbagansfan8234 Жыл бұрын
Jehovah is right to discourage smoking. It kills
@LuciferEgyptianOsiris
@LuciferEgyptianOsiris Жыл бұрын
This guy Idenified JEHOVAH AT A DISTRICT CONVENTION
@EX-JW-SJD
@EX-JW-SJD Жыл бұрын
He must have been pushed, he has been arrested for embezzlement after all!
@lawrencecarlson2425
@lawrencecarlson2425 Жыл бұрын
I was caught up in the Pentecostal church, which was almost as laughable.
@LuciferEgyptianOsiris
@LuciferEgyptianOsiris Жыл бұрын
Notice at 9:43 how he didn't wanna delve on what power jehovah has they don't talk about jehovah or Jesus They only talk about satan
@moshimedlin-sw6ov
@moshimedlin-sw6ov Жыл бұрын
Is it normal for “governing body” members to get kicked out? Anybody know? Moshi
@tiiatuuli339
@tiiatuuli339 Жыл бұрын
Raymond Franz, got kicked out and there are 2 if i remember right, that was too sick/old so they left before they died.
@moshimedlin-sw6ov
@moshimedlin-sw6ov Жыл бұрын
@@tiiatuuli339 well yes if they were too old makes sense. But the other guy got booted out like Tony did. It seems fishy to me. But the whole “religion” is beyond fishy and horrible on so many levels. I hate to even call it a religion it’s a cult. They definitely aren’t Christians like they say they are. They think Jesus is St Michael. Which I’m sure y’all already know. The whole thing makes no sense whatsoever. I’ve never been a JW I’m actually Catholic but I just don’t know how people can fall for this nonsense and Mormonism and Scientology it’s crazy. Ok I’ll get off my soapbox now. Moshi
@Ladyresidue
@Ladyresidue Жыл бұрын
Can you still be one of the “Anointed” and be dropped by the GB?
@shenelleprince8018
@shenelleprince8018 Жыл бұрын
It's seems part of his shaming, to fall into smoke
@b.w.7588
@b.w.7588 Жыл бұрын
Remember when Morris said Jehovah's enemies would "vanish like smoke"? Maybe there is a God after all, and maybe He made Uncle Tony vanish in a puff of smoke? Understand this much, of course I would never wish any serious harm on the man ever, but I would say that Anthony Morris III can still go sit on a tack at the very least.
@chrissapp9243
@chrissapp9243 Жыл бұрын
By the way Lloyd, you're looking great. Still playing football ⚽?
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans Жыл бұрын
Yes I am, thank you!
@ianthurlby2788
@ianthurlby2788 Жыл бұрын
Plenty smoke ascending to heaven though animals sacrifice to God.
@scottymeffz5025
@scottymeffz5025 Жыл бұрын
The bible read by someone attempting to interpret and pretending they know what it means, it is indistinguishable from the ramblings of a madman.
@katycrannell8644
@katycrannell8644 Жыл бұрын
Sooo....does that mean he's been disfellowshipped or just "downgraded"? Is he awake now? I have so many questions
@Ballykeith
@Ballykeith Жыл бұрын
I'd say downgraded is the word. Retired from the Faithful & Discreet Slave, but still slated to rule in Heaven. I heard he's left Bethel. No indication - yet - of a Fred Phelps-style awakening at the end.
@katycrannell8644
@katycrannell8644 Жыл бұрын
@@Ballykeith perfect. Holding out for an awakening. He's a horrible person but everyone can learn better and do better. Crossing my fingers for him
@Ballykeith
@Ballykeith Жыл бұрын
@@katycrannell8644 Lloyd getting him on the show would be the scoop of the millennium. *"Hello Tony ... "* 😆
@katycrannell8644
@katycrannell8644 Жыл бұрын
@@Ballykeith that would definitely be the interview of the century!!
@neverperching1554
@neverperching1554 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me who hears him getting emotional from the outset? I feel he's about to breakdown more than usual. I have little respect for the guy, but as a fellow human I hope he's okay and getting the help he needs.
@geraniumroseum
@geraniumroseum Жыл бұрын
Třeba už věděl, že odejde. Sám a rád.
@toriwolf5978
@toriwolf5978 Жыл бұрын
Why are we still beating up on tony?? He was doing what the rest of the governing body told him to do ,,,Can’t everyone just let him be gone now?? Why are you still talking about him ? He is no longer around time to move on just my opinion .. lots of other governing body to look at like lett or Sam the man…I just feel sorry for him….sad really..
@waynerowlands7289
@waynerowlands7289 Жыл бұрын
his talk is witchcraft in effect
@chrissapp9243
@chrissapp9243 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of "smoking", old uncle Tony there almost seems like he's been smoking a little something too. However... I would wager this is what he sounds like when covering up the fact that he's drunk 🥃. $100 a bottle scotch gets the day started right, eh Tony?
@exploatores
@exploatores Жыл бұрын
so if pride is before fall. how long is it going to take before God crashes hard. if you read the bible. Is their anyone who is worst. when it comes to puting himself front and center.
@jaflenbond7854
@jaflenbond7854 Жыл бұрын
WHO are the BELIEVERS of MYTHS, FICTIONS, and FAIRY TALES of the ANTI-CHRISTS? ANSWER - All Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions in the world who were misled and deceived by the Anti-Christs to believe their lies, myths, fictions, and fairy tales about "Armageddon", "hellfire", "rapture", "reincarnation", and "Trinity" are not ignorant and unaware but KNOW and fully aware that they and the anti-Christs will never ever be glorified in their fairy tale and make-believe "heaven" nor tortured for eternity in their mythical and fictional "Hellfire" after their deaths but just become worthless and useless dusts on earth forever. WHAT are the TEACHINGS of JESUS CHRIST? ANSWER - Lowly, ordinary, kind, and submissive persons on earth are not ignorant and unaware but KNOW and fully aware that the Creator authorized and sent Jesus Christ from heaven to earth thousands of years ago to preach and teach the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" to imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings. WHAT is the WORTH, VALUE, and IMPORTANCE of the AUTHORITY and TEACHINGS of JESUS CHRIST? ANSWER - Jesus Christ KNOWS that all Atheists and fanatics of all Christian and non-Christian Religions will never ever believe and understand that imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who - 1. submit to his authority as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth as written in Matthew 28: 18 and 2. put their faith and hope in his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 will be favored, honored, and rewarded by the Creator with ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful earth without liars, traitors, murderers, immoral and perverts as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 ; 21: 8. DID the CREATOR CREATE HUMAN BEINGS to LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER? ANSWER - The Creator KNOWS that Atheists and fanatics of Christian and non-Christian Religions will never ever believe and understand that all human beings, like animals, will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5 but all his lowly, ordinary, kind, and submissive worshippers and believers of Jesus Christ who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Ruth, Naomi, King David, Isaiah, Daniel, Martha, Mary, Lazarus, and many others will not remain as worthless dusts on earth forever, instead in the right and proper time, Jesus Christ will resurrect them back to life as written in John 11: 25, 26 so that all his worshippers and believers of his Christ can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "Kingdom of God" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth, as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@maraC80
@maraC80 Жыл бұрын
Did Tony M. wake up?
@lwmaynard5180
@lwmaynard5180 Жыл бұрын
Avoid Loyd Evans leaven 247 ? 😁
@indigosmyth7475
@indigosmyth7475 Жыл бұрын
Again like most of ive never heard the Elders/Governing body say smoking is referring to whatever the hell Tony old boy is talking about wtf😂
@GoverningBodyBloopers
@GoverningBodyBloopers Жыл бұрын
I got a video of Tony in Jail > @GoverningBodyBloopers
@garye2906
@garye2906 Жыл бұрын
Is Tony still anointed?
@michakalina6
@michakalina6 Жыл бұрын
God has changed his calling after Dalilama said Tony is no longer a part of G-B
@hanneivanovic2465
@hanneivanovic2465 Жыл бұрын
Self fulfilling prophecy uncle Tony. You what they say in Denmark,it is easier to cry out of small windows,than large windows. Does anybody know the little flock rules?will he still be part of the "second"smoke the rapture when the global killing takes place?
@Ballykeith
@Ballykeith Жыл бұрын
Presumably. He's just been stood down from the Faithful & Discreet Slave, but should still be raptured as part of the little flock and may be recruited into a death squad.
@jaystone3882
@jaystone3882 Жыл бұрын
Lloyd tell me why am suppose to watch this video
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans Жыл бұрын
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