Taking Too Much Off the Top

The plaintiff says she hired the defendant to take in her daughter’s prom dress, but he cut it up and changed the whole style. The dress was ruined and she had to buy a new one, so she’s suing for a full refund. The defendant says he’s been sewing for 59 years and did exactly what the plaintiff’s daughter had asked for.
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[@manthony777]

I can't believe that man is 80 years old. Amazing 👍 and he's still working.

[@lashundavis156]

He looks good

[@grind-n-find214]

The dress is definetly uneven.

[@joezullo7792]

He has to -- these damn customers want him to work for nuthin'!😁

[@ladykimble1]

He looks great!

[@anhenry2998]

I know right. I would have guessed he was about late 50s early 60s.

[@Black_and_Green]

She knows what a train is! She keeps explaining it!

[@trekgirl65]

A wedding dress train for a prom dress, the Mother was mixed up on the dress train.

[@redapol5678]

If you had showed me that dress and asked me to name what the bottom part of the dress was called I wouldn’t know. A skirt? I definitely wouldn’t say a train. I think of a long piece of fabric at the back of a dress that drags behind, like on a bride at a wedding. I see now that the bottom part of the red dress could be called a train but I wouldn’t have known that before this case. I think the mother and daughter were just confused on the terminology. But in saying that, if I were the mother and the tailor asked me “do you want the train?”, I would hope I would answer “what do you mean? What train?” rather than answering “no I don’t want a train” 😬

[@julieisaacson610]

The dress has a “puddle” bottom which surrounds the bottom of the dress. The defendant wanted the “puddle”bottom to remain only to be made shorter. The plaintiff thought that a “train” referred to a longer trailing piece in the back only. In her mind, she wanted a “puddle” hem but not a “train.” She was unable to communicate her vision in a way that the tailor understood, and the tailor did not press her for clarification because removing the puddle made sense for a prom event.

[@snoopy420-X]

It’s still uneven though.

[@ReddyReader]

JM is off on the train issue!

[@maryelaine-blinstrubchambe6083]

Who knows if the girl was wearing something under the dress that pulled her tummy and hips in so the hem hung longer and straighter. Plus, the top issue, mom said the girl was working out, we don't know that or how long it had been since the prom. Did the girl gain weight since then?

[@Jahmai203]

Thank you for this explanation

[@darylrichardson8567]

@@snoopy420-Xit’s not supposed to be even

[@leesonnsmith3538]

Mom's lack of train knowledge is not the defendants fault.

[@pamiam903]

I totally agree. However, she knew exactly what a train was because of the wedding dress comment.

[@whysoserious5826]

@@pamiam903 the way she acts you know they were arguing and causing unnecessary drama 🙄

[@trekgirl65]

@@whysoserious5826 She was arguing and causing unnecessary drama.

[@randyholloway920]

Actually it is his fault. He is the expert, not the customer. He should have indicated what he meant by the train just like JM said. I thought a train was the thing on the back of a dress as well. I wouldn’t have known he meant the thing on the bottom.

[@redfish1289]

@Randy Holloway watch the video again. The mom said she didnt want the train. Not him suggesting it.

[@amandacosner]

I like how he said he would fix it and she said “we didn’t want to do that”. Come on…. That’s ridiculous

[@trafficjam.]

too much drama for a prom🙄 go to the store, buy a dress, the end.

[@augustmoon9973]

I would still have an alteration done by the defendant, he's a damn legend! ❤️👑

[@randyholloway920]

How is he a legend? Be botched a simple hem job. He only won because she didn’t give him a chance to fix it.

[@augustmoon9973]

@@randyholloway920 I agree this probably wasn't his best work, but instead of only looking at the details of this case, I'm looking at him as an individual, as a black business owner, who's been operating as a tailor for 59 years, which shows strong work ethics, and still at almost 80 years old he continues to still work in his craft. He no doubt has seen a lot in his time, and that says a lot about him as an individual.

[@Kre410]

Doesn’t matter of he’s 200 if his work sucks. He failed.

[@mekhahboohunter5694]

Glad the defendant won

[@ninauchiha3106]

That mom is a liar. She knew what it was "trains are for weddings" 💀 she knew exactly wtf it was.

[@Indiasplace]

I love how the judge cross examines!! She’s brilliant and so unbiased.

[@Aree_TD_]

Yes she does way better than judge Judy.

[@ericmatthews9076]

I love how a Plantiff and or defendant gets caught in a lie and be like, "I was confused". I hope alot of people ran to his business after this case

[@carolharris5455]

She knows her daughter was fluctuating in her weight and both of them were lying about the train. It’s just horrible to teach your children to be untruthful to change their situations. Glad Judge shut that down 😅😅😅 I bet the one she wore didn’t have a train either

[@thegrouphomegoddess9684]

I was thinking the same thing. Disgusting behavior. Teaching your children to lie!!

[@trekgirl65]

Daughter did not a wedding dress and mom wanted one for her daughter's prom. Very tacky.

[@marleonetti7]

and probably no zipper either

[@cassandra6710]

Mom and daughter are definitely wrong and they know it. If they mentioned anything, he would've fixed it, like he said. This man is a legend for a reason.

[@Just_us-2]

The dress was beautiful as it was before taking it to be altered. Also between both mom and daughter noone knew what they wanted.

[@Kre410]

If it had at least been even and FIT, they would have been ok.

[@granitemoss1451]

I don't understand why she's so surprised and annoyed he threw out the fabric after he removed it.

[@KritTeekDeZigns]

She knew what a train was because she said something about it wasn't a bride's dress.

[@heidicrimmings9615]

If mama ain't happy.....🤬🤬🤬 I can't be the only one hearing a spoiled little girl in the mom?? She seems predisposed to whining...

[@pumpkinpatches67]

I believe the defendant. Mom said you don’t want a train. Daughter got home & hated it. Now he’s blamed for her nonsense. Lol train wreck should’ve been the title😂

[@lokaylusta]

WOW POOR GUY DIDN'T EVEN GET TO TALK FOR AT LEAST 10 MINUTES! LOL😂😢

[@thegrouphomegoddess9684]

You know MM 😝😝🤣🤣

[@Daydream355]

I don’t even believe the girl tried it on to begin with. It makes zero sense to try something on, see that it doesn’t fit, and then take it home anyway. Common sense it’s lacking.

[@denabee5232]

Both plaintiffs, mother and daughter, are exhibiting all kinds of body language that indicates that they are lying. They look all around them for answers, they look down when asked a question, they don’t look Judge Milian in the eye…I think they are just trying to get something for nothing.

[@Kre410]

How can they lie when we can all see he took the dress in too much. 2. The bottom is uneven. The train is irrelevant.

[@CandidLy1]

Lots of people do that when trying to recall or picture things in their mind- happens ALL the time.

[@Robin-ni6fs]

The dress is beautiful! He would have fixed it.

[@Hazel.Eyed.Gemini]

Someone in an above comment notice that the daughter raised the dress higher on the right side. You can see it tucked in her armpit. This was a con. I’m glad the plaintiff won. Also why didn’t they show pictures of the prom, if she was so happy. It’s because she wore that dress. I promise you that. Can probably see the pics on FB

[@Robin-ni6fs]

@@Hazel.Eyed.Gemini That is so interesting! Wow, some people are so dishonest! Thank you for that insight.

[@pchelloo]

Handsome elder. Father Time favors you! Nobody believes the plaintiff doesn't know what at trane / train is. I'm glad the young girl had a happy prom after all because that's what matters in the end.🌠

[@catherinesisk4369]

I get what the mother says about a train. An actual train is where the dress is shorter in the front and longer in the back. This dress is a mermaid hem where it's the same length all around but has the waves all around the bottom. Regardless, the hem is uneven and it doesn't zip in the back.

[@Purpleloveme]

Definitely wasn’t rocket science.

[@theonehavingthekey5966]

I don't wear dresses and all these terminology is new to me. Thanks for clearing it up

[@thecollectorslife]

It probably zipped when she had it, but that prom weight loss has gone in reverse and she cant fit it now. Which is probably why she made no mention of not being able to zip it when she picked it up.

[@amberthomas3939]

No, moms story made no sense

[@VladmirPoopN]

As the Judge said: "WHAT OTHER PART OF THE DRESS COULD HE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IF NOT THE ~ BOTTOM PART ~ ?"

[@Sook995]

Every woman that goes looking for a gown know what a train is

[@Mocharocks9966]

The woman just wanted the money back . She knows what a train is everyone knows what a train is

[@redapol5678]

Not everyone. I didn’t. I thought a train was wedding-specific. A long piece a fabric that drags behind a bride 😬

[@rckkeller9437]

Unfortunately for the plaintiffs, she should have been much more clear.

[@missbradicah]

If mom didn't understand in court, what a "train" is, God help her when daughter gets married, jeez Louise!

[@daddyharry6065]

Being a bloke even I know what 'train' means when it comes to what that is in dress terms. Simply put it's the piece that drags on the ground/floor close to or behind a dress. 😄

[@Niylahgokrazy]

I just wish she had a picture for the judge of what she REALLY wanted

[@Hazel.Eyed.Gemini]

She got what she wanted. This was a con

[@DBellington]

It’s only been up for a few minutes but you know I’m already here! Happy Friday fellow People’s Court fans!!

[@AimeeOrion]

Good morning!

[@alittleanti_alittlesocial]

Happy saturday from here!

[@davemathews7890]

Another PC junkie in awe of Judge Milian's talents here!

[@janemarch2822]

You too :)

[@looknbakatu]

Happy Friday to You too!

[@barbstevens6020]

Plaintiff goofed up.

[@Felicia_The_Creative]

The defendant sound like a 30 year old and looks great too! Wow! Let's have him back talk about health! LOL

[@highlander666]

Love the sparkly red

[@payableondeath9091]

harlot vibes🤢

[@foamqueen1075]

Jessica rabbit dress

[@barbikinkin]

All tailors should return all fabric that is cut off

[@wackybrattyx]

Ugh, no. They don’t have unlimited storage to have random fabric laying around in their workplace. That’s a dumb idea.

[@ELIZABETH-rw8rn]

True, but the mother didn't ask for it, 🤷🏽and the daughter picked it up without the mother. However the tailor should have automatically returned it to the client.

[@barbikinkin]

@@ELIZABETH-rw8rn it should always be pinned to the garment and given back…whether they ask or not

[@barbikinkin]

@@wackybrattyx pin it to the garment…what storage is needed?

[@barbikinkin]

@@wackybrattyx I worked in a menswear store where we did alterations

[@Degorff]

Your skeptical you didn't even offer him the chance.

[@francevenezia]

She said when he was fitting the dress, that he MARKED the hem with chalk, so the chalk should have told them where he was going to cut and hem and would have determined who was at fault, him or her. If he put a CHALK MARK at the very end of the ruffle dragging on the bottom, but then cut off the ruffle entirely, then he would have been at fault, and it would have shown that he did the opposite of what he paid/instructed to do. If he had put the CHALK MARK anywhere else, then she would be at fault for seeing where he planned to cut and hem and not saying anything about it. I'm a seamstress myself, on my receipt I would have drawn a diagram so that we both understood what was happening, and where I was cutting. I think the work was shoddy to be honest. He has customers all day long, whereas she's only attending the prom once in her life, so I think the burden falls on him supposedly having years of experience, to have all parties COMPLETELY understand what the end result will be. Undoubtedly it was easier for him to cut off the ruffle, than to hem it which is a little more complicated. The ruffle at the bottom was the OUTSTANDING feature of the dress, and since it was at the bottom ruffle that was being altered, it was his job to COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND what they wanted done. Also, I ALWAYS save the pieces I cut off, and allow the customer themselves to decide to keep it or throw it.

[@amberdaniels8037]

It was super uneven on the bottom. She should have taken it back and given him the opportunity to attempt to fix it and then I think she would have won her case.

[@Trich-nf2zf]

I think when he put the horse piece back in it made it uneven

[@herfirstmate]

I think the defendant is in his dressing room.

[@apoliticallevi]

Very beautiful dress! Love the sparkles!

[@nonamepyro6176]

She wanted the train back on so she could return it haha ill bet thats what it is

[@carriepriegel6477]

These type of issues and the moms involved confirm my joy I never had to deal with them as one who didn't have children. It's a prom dress. In the grand scheme I would teach my children ya gotta bounce back from challenges, small (this) and large (death, divorce). It's not Ukraine so keep it all in perspective ✌️🕊️🙏

[@Purpleloveme]

No ma’am an uneven bottom can not be fixed unless cutting off more material making the dress even shorter.

[@h.Freeman]

Actually it can. If it still had a hem and From the picture it appears to have a tucked hem. They lost because they didn't give him a chance to fix it. It takes a minimum of two fittings some tailors do 3

[@rafaeltorres2460]

The hem can be let out...

[@kristinkinzel9438]

Yeah I dunno, he messd that dress up hahahaha

[@marysparks3769]

The judge was spot on on the dress alteration case.

[@barbaraness4507]

I made all of my oldest daughter’s formals, and they turned out great! It was so much easier having right there to make adjustments.

[@nettejones8276]

The plaintiff is a liar and she got caught in her lies. She took an oath in court and then try to play stupid. I'm glad it backfired on her😂

[@susiesolangesimpson2828]

Happy Friday y’all!

[@DBellington]

Happy Friday! 🎉

[@ttee4677]

Happy Friday back at yah 😊

[@sheilae.9670]

Happy Friday to you, my friend❤

[@Djkommode]

Flex Friday

[@HisMind4sure]

Happy Friday!!

[@shelbygreen5132]

I understand that she wasn't aware that the ruffled fabric around the entire bottom would be called a train. It makes sense.

[@Wolfnap313]

Only way to fix the uneven bottom is to cut more off to bring the long to the short. That would defeat what they wanted.

[@crking36]

The judge didnt ask for the daughter to be sworn in...is her testimony still valid? 🤔🤔🤔

[@TheChosenNuggetz]

M'am this is a TV show.

[@barbaraness4507]

I couldn’t believe the judge’s decision!!! The plaintiff deserved at least part of the money back! It’s a shame the mom didn’t seem to be able to explain that they wanted the same bottom design, and the tailor didn’t appear knowledgeable enough about women’s wear to understand.

[@fireeestarter1]

Aw look it's little Karen with her mama! 🙄

[@sashabenoit1518]

How can you fix a dress that is too short? The defendant himself even said you can't sew the fabric back on...

[@StaceyBeryl]

Great ruling. The mom and daughter have no idea what they are doing and want to make money on this man. Looks like the daughter put on a little weight...

[@MrsDymples76]

Oh she thought she was going to win 😂😂😂.

[@looknbakatu]

the Defendant does beautiful work! skilled hands!💯; a "train" can be designed anyway you want it, didn't they have a picture of the dress they wanted?

[@foamqueen1075]

Skilled hands know how to hem properly. He doesnt even know how to do the most basic of sewing skills

[@adriennef4637]

Yeah, he RUINED the entire thing. So sad because it was an amazing dress before he touched it💔

[@h.Freeman]

He did what they asked and as far as it being uneven and not zipping that's what the second fitting is for

[@spanishblood9899]

This was the mothers fault 100% 🤣

[@melaniepeiman2940]

Honestly, I would be confused if he said do you want a train too. Because that sounds like he wants to ADD a train to it, not cutting off the bottom.

[@johnnyb6151]

She came home crying.......yeah right. Wrong!!!!!! Everybody knows what a train on a dress is. Especially an adult woman. And JM with the hand gestures, saying you want this you want that is ridiculous. They got what they wanted. And you bought another dress. Right. Wrong!!!! The judge should have asked her to see the new dress.

[@Lolalenice]

They forgot they were under oath and just saying whatever to win. She knew what a train was and to make it worse they left without trying it on! Who’s to say they didn’t alter it themselves for the case!

[@BostonPower]

SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE DAUGHTER LAID OFF THE JOE LOUIS FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND NEEDED A NEW DRESS

[@LiveGrowRescue]

He cut WAY to much fabric off. There is absolutely no way he can go back and fix that. It's 100% ruined and she'll never get the same style back. Wrong verdict.

[@Lolalenice]

She lied she never tried it on

[@nicoleh.6352]

Mom should have known she would need to try on the dress when she went to pick it up🙄she didn't even walk out of the dressing room so he could see how it fit🤦🏾‍♀️... these kids today

[@snoopy420-X]

I was very timid at 18, lots of people are.

[@Hazel.Eyed.Gemini]

@@snoopy420-X NO EXCUSES. The same excuse could be used for a vehicle sale. I’m timid and didn’t get a mechanic to look at it

[@heehaw8401]

That dress looks awful after he finished.

[@katalina1699]

Catch that Train ...choo choo....🤡😂🤡

[@keith2964]

Well this case was a real Train Wreck! 🤣😎

[@terrymcguire8456]

Judge, he can't fix it if he threw away the piece he cut off.. She asked him if he had the part he cut off so he could fix it and he said no, he threw it away. The bottom was clearly a sloppy mess even if there was a misunderstanding about the train part. He should of been liable for at least half the cost.

[@tkilecalistyle2610]

He should have pulled the dress up at the waist instead of cut the bottom off

[@racheldeborde8237]

I'm a seamstress & a quilter. The horsehair tape causes any hem to appear uneven, which is why it's only used on a full, free-flowing dress where a straight hem is not noticed -- although it should still be cut straight, of course. If the tailor used Tailor's Chalk, as the plaintiff testified, then they all 'visually' agreed, at that time, where the hem would be moved to. The waistline not fitting is a simple fix. Judge is correct. Plaintiff should educate herself, on tailor's terms, before asking for alterations or buy off the rack only. The tailor needs to print out clear & concise notes as many clients do not know the terms of your trade. It's your job to know exactly what it is they're wanting or this is what happens. Whether it's wood or fabric: measure, measure, measure & then cut! 🙂

[@keithjoseph7433]

I dis agree with this. Even if he removed 5 inches it should of never been that short. If you remove the train it should not be that short and the train to me is the long tail that flows behind. This could of never been fixed!

[@elvickRULES]

And if they took it back to be fixed and it wasn’t they would’ve won. But they didn’t, so tough.

[@theresadimaggio7241]

yeah for the Defendant

[@tunisiancrochetchannel]

Why does she keep acting like he did something wrong by throwing away the material? Of course, a taylor throws away the cut off fabric from their jobs. Otherwise, they'd end up with nothing but unwanted bits of fabric and no space in their shop.

[@Ahhmisohornie]

So this mom would rather look like a moron by pretending to not know what a train was than to just deal with it. 😂😂

[@firfuxsake]

Judging by the hem and zip issues alone, I'd never use this guy.

[@foamqueen1075]

The dress hem is super crooked. Dont know why everyone in the comment section is sucking off the defendant when his work looks awful

[@nomsantuli6023]

🤣🤣🤣

[@shannoncarlson6960]

Because the mom lied and should have stayed out of it. She ruined the dress

[@traceyaz125]

She knew what a train was, but you can’t deny the dress is horribly crooked.

[@deewah1698]

Her mom was thinking different when he asked her if she wanted a "train".

[@elvickRULES]

“I didn’t understand” yeah, you. That’s on you. Girl bye.

[@Degorff]

Other dress is on them they didn't let him fix it, and they didn't want the train they didn't complain till later.

[@jazzycherokee869]

And the daughter is an adult. She has the same responsibility as any other adult. When you walk out of a place with no complaints..what is your expectation? Especially after trying it on.

[@vanessap7393]

I’m confused because the dress looks ruined just based on the fact that he cut the bottom unevenly. To me it’s choppy. If the plaintiffs went back to the shop, maybe they would have won the case.

[@Nevaeh1]

the dress was beautiful

[@AC081361]

I am unwilling to believe that JM would have been this difficult if it was one of her daughters upset about their dress being ruined. Anyone can see that he butchered the bottom structure of the dress. Why the hell is JM fixating on the word “train” OMG it was NOT a train. This was a horrible ruling in my opinion

[@missy67]

JM believed that the plaintiff just changed her mind about wanting the train, but I think there was just a miscommunication about what a train was - so that's on her. But i would have been more upset about the dress not even being able to be zipped, if the material was thrown away, was it actually fixable? Evening up a hem may have been a simple thing to do, but it would be even shorter.

[@smiley_tingzzempire255]

Well, she did say in her complaint that she didn't want a train. He wouldn't just cut it off. Also she didn't even tell him about the zipper and that's the only thing he could fix.

[@queengoddess1716]

I think the dress looks good.

[@kelslskfnvksle]

It sounded like the *mom* wanted the dress to look a certain way and her vision may not have matched her daughter's. The mom is driving this train (pun intended).

[@snappinturla420]

This is why you have to spell everything out when paying for a service. Tailor should have clarified with the mom. I knew he was going to win though!

[@maryelaine-blinstrubchambe6083]

Everyone knows what a train is! And I don't believe she bought a size smaller.

[@shaunlundathomas9284]

Too many things not adding up. The daughter didn’t realize the dress was uneven so she was really crying because the dress couldn’t fit. The dress was purchased in April for prom in June. She probably gained weight hence the comment about her hitting the gym and eventually getting a smaller dress.

[@Trich-nf2zf]

Hold up. She bought a SMALLER size and it fit perfectly????? So the altered dress probably wouldn't have fit either.

[@0LadyV0]

If they didn't want the bottom, they sell plenty of dresses without it.

[@GigiRulesTheRoost]

Wow, the judge was real wrong on this.

[@arianefr78]

WHAT? There might have been a 'misunderstanding' about the 'train' but more importantly is the question of why is it uneven at the bottom and even more importantly why can't the zipper be done up fully, NOBODY can wear a dress with a zipper, unzipping, that in itself is bad, but he took too much off around the bust, that is NOT something that can simply be put back, and in order to make the bottom even he would have had to take MORE off, making the dress shorter, so he ruined the dress, so she deserved to get some of her money back if not all of it. In order for him to have kept the 'flare' at the bottom he should have shortened it from around the waist, NOT from the bottom and he should be giving back any cut off spare material, otherwise how was he going to 'fix' it if he had already thrown away the spare material, I think he needs to take his retirement...

[@edyann]

I love these court shows. We also have them in spanish but Americans are way more entertaining. (In a good way. )

[@kimmccormack9905]

I mean even if she didn't want the train he still made it too short because she couldn't have worn heels. It was just on right when she had no shoes on. He fucked up, and allowing him to fox it meant even shorter. The dress could not be salvaged at that point. I don't agree with the ruling!

[@mountendew]

I believe she should have gotten a partial judgment.

[@melissakay.p1949]

I'm with the plaintiff on this!!

[@bongoikno4994]

Well u on the wrong team in every way possible but gender smh

[@melissakay.p1949]

@@bongoikno4994 😂

[@looknbakatu]

"THIS" is what happens when people use terms thwy know nothing about! they could have looked at images of "trains" for dresses, WOW!😳🤨

[@looknbakatu]

"they"

[@RueM-lf3xm]

Is no one else seeing how one side of the dress is quite a bit shorter than the other?

[@islandmariposa-]

My God I cannot stand ppl who pass off their lack of everything on someone else