Taramps HD 3000 Overview and Amp Dyno

[@quevicular]

Williston audio did a demo on this amp and had no problem whatsoever. He actually ran a few bursts at 5300 watts into half an ohm.

[@stereomojo]

That’s awesome!

[@quevicular]

@@stereomojo are you going to get that one fixed?

[@stereomojo]

@@quevicular I’m not sure yet.

[@txddyfarquh69]

Yip, I seen that vid

[@spacecowboy1924]

That was a v1 model 6 years ago no?

[@DavidGarcia-gh7pr]

Just got my taramp love it it pushes my two 12” hard

[@undernature2799]

Taramps, it's clearly shown that the man done nothing wrong, be a good example and send him a new amp. It's the only right thing to do

[@memyselfandi3925]

Not 1 ohm stable. User error.

[@ryzenpeak]

​@memyselfandi3925 yeah when there's a 1 ohm option they won't do nothing if they specifically tell you the one you got is 2 ohm and you run lower and break it, but he has the 1 ohm stable version 🤷‍♂️

[@fazeninja7204]

@@memyselfandi3925 it says right on top of the amp 3000k 1ohm though lol

[@thedoctor787]

I have dat exact same amp on a solo x15 & have had zero issues from either.

[@murdermitten7507]

Merry Christmas to you and yours.

[@stereomojo]

Thanks MM! Merry Christmas!

[@joshholden8561]

If u woulda bought that from amazon they would replace it no issue that goes with anything u buy from them. Im a amp repair tech and ive rebuilt atleast 30 of the hd 3k amps and quite a bit of them had 1 ohm stickers on the outside but was actually 2 ohm models.

[@stereomojo]

I did get it from Amazon. I’ll look to see who the seller was.

[@txddyfarquh69]

😮😮😮no way, is there a way to know if a monobloc Amp is a true 1ohm or 2ohm? @joshholden8561

[@spacecowboy1924]

Whoa, funny enough I ordered a 2 ohm model from Amazon and was sent a 1 ohm model. Says it on the box and on the amp. Is there anyway to verify what model it actually is?

[@joshholden8561]

@@spacecowboy1924 yeah the circuit board

[@jbrownjetmech-4783]

Educate us?

[@BDauto86]

The full bridge amps handle subs just fine, i think alot of ppl see this stuff and get scared. I was hesitant myself but i been running full bridge for the past few months. Ive ran it to the point of slight clip with no issues, it puts out good power and dont get hot for me at all.

[@stereomojo]

Yes, I agree

[@JasonWW2000]

Yes, it's not really a full bridge problem. It's a Taramps problem.

[@joshholden8561]

It's a hd 3000 problem only

[@JasonWW2000]

@@joshholden8561 Really? Are you sure about that? It seems their extreme cost cutting, pushing components to the limit, may be responsible for their higher rate of failures. At least among American users.

[@godbound]

That's why I love skar baby no fires in my car not today baby

[@TheJayDawgZ]

ive had skar and ct sounds blow up within minutes. but taramps handle everything fine.

[@daddy_shark82]

why didnt the protection didnt prevent it from burning up the second time ??

[@stereomojo]

I wonder this every time myself!

[@JasonWW2000]

The protection circuitry they use is slow and not designed very well.

[@mattburgess2]

Ill stick to half bridge Korean amps. Great video 👍

[@stereomojo]

That’s my favorite kind as well. Thanks for the support!

[@rubenflores2870]

I was going to get a taramp md 3000 . But I'm really debating on this now. ? Did you find out about the jc power amplifier?

[@evilinside5984]

@rubenflores2870- The Taramps Big Boss Bass 3k, is a much better designed/built amplifier, and also comes with 22 different light combos, for $299!

[@MyHairyChin]

I run 2 smart 5 bass on 2 zv6 18s on 96ah lithium bank... seeing this makes me question a few things ... what are you loading the amp on? Subs?

[@phila8160]

One ohm resistors

[@joshholden8561]

U wont believe this but i repair taramps and i e found several many times they have the 1 ohm model sticker on the 2 ohm model.

[@stereomojo]

Oh wow! That probably wasn’t the case with this one, but that’s crazy that you’ve seen that happen.

[@imupabove]

I’m thinking on buying one used. I’m planning on wiring my subs to 2 ohms.. my subs are 2 ohms each.. I should be good right? I got a 35 ah of lithium and a 320 alt. The Taramps is the 1 ohm version as well. Thanks.

[@stereomojo]

Are your subs dual 2? Or single 2?

[@imupabove]

@@stereomojo dual 2 ohms. Sundown SAv2 12 inch

[@stereomojo]

@@imupabove yes, I think that would work out pretty well. Just make sure you don’t go parallel-parallel and end up at .5 ohms

[@ResilientSounds276]

Do you think hooked up in a car it would do that at 1ohm?

[@stereomojo]

No, most likely not. It would need to be supplied with good electrical, and not clipped very much, or at all. I think it would be just fine at 1 ohm on subs.

[@jessebeatty9696]

Input voltage what’s is it I don’t think you said it at the end

[@WhateverUDecide]

they do not like to be turned on with no load on the output or you can damage them

[@Zionslayer1]

Well, now all you need are some chestnuts.

[@stereomojo]

Lol, true

[@imupabove]

You think the version 1 model is just as good? I got someone selling one locally for $160

[@stereomojo]

I’m not sure to be honest

[@ryzen397]

440 amps drawn for 3200 watts is terrible or was it messed up since it fried

[@stereomojo]

Yeah, I think it drew a lot of extra current when it blew

[@undernature2799]

When the welding started to take place 😮

[@undernature2799]

I sure hope taramps see's where everyone else basically is giving 4 speaker wire connections. I have a smart 3 that I need to fix. I noticed that you have 2 rca's plugged in. The smart 3 has one jack in and one jack out for linking. Wow,that is never a good thing, smoke 😢

[@JasonWW2000]

Looks like the power supply section couldn't handle it. Being full range, maybe the 40hz test tone was too much for it? Maybe the 1000Hz tone it would survive? I think for subs, they make their Bass versions. I simply have not been impressed by any of the Brazilian companies. Their philosophy of making products as cheap as possible seems to work in Brazil, but not elsewhere.

[@joshholden8561]

These amps play down to 10 htz they play bass fine

[@JasonWW2000]

@@joshholden8561 I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm well aware that this is a full range amplifier that is capable of playing below 20 Hz. The point I was trying to make is that this particular model does not appear to be optimized for subwoofers. You'll note that Taramps does make amplifiers that are specifically designed for subwoofers. I'm going to make the assumption that the Bass versions are built a little more heavy duty to handle the sustained low impedance loads.

[@joshholden8561]

@@JasonWW2000 actually the bass versions are built worse the regular smart versions are superior I'm a amp repair tech of 29+ years and know what I'm talking about this is most likely a issue with the mosfets being from different batches and too far out of tolerance.

[@JasonWW2000]

@@joshholden8561 Ah, so their cost cutting and lack of quality control seems to be an issue. I was thinking that. I've also noticed their newer designs seem to be better. Is the HD line quite old?

[@joshholden8561]

@@JasonWW2000 hd line is oldest and newer models like the big boss is much more robust the big boss 3k is . 5 to 2 ohm rated 3k at . 5 it does like 6500 dynamic and is a great amp I've ran 2 smart 3ks on 2 12 d2 vxf since 2020 not a single issue besides loud fans but I moved the amps and now I don't hear them or I turn up the music I Scion does 150 db so u can't hear much besides music.

[@jamessettles6485]

it got to 2700 fine for $184 thats not bad

[@johnnyditommaso6807]

so what's your input voltage like? these things only like 2 volts to your inputs.

[@stereomojo]

.3

[@johnnyditommaso6807]

@@stereomojo .3 or 3?

[@stereomojo]

@@johnnyditommaso6807 .3

[@evilinside5984]

@StereoMoJo- Its worth a shot, to call Taramps USA, and just tell them what happened, and that you have a video they can watch, to determine if they would warranty this amp? Also alot of car audio competitors i know that run full bridge amplifiers, say to stay around 1volt of RCA input voltage, and just crank up the amplifier gain, this along with NOT wiring below rated impedance, keep from clipping too much, and dont give this style of amplifier too much power input voltage, like 14.4volts to 12.0@ the lowest. This style/design has less margin for errors. Also depends on the specific quality of components used by the different companies. Also did you happen to notice the amperage when the amp went into protect= 220ish amps, and dynoed 2700 watts!? Thats how you calculate amp efficiency accurately. You must use the amperage pulled, @ the exact millisecond that the power number flashes up on the screen. If you just use the max/peak amperage pulled @ the end of a dyno run= thats not the correct way, as an amplifier will keep pulling higher amperage, on an amp dyno, even after the peak power has been obtained. So if in the future, you had on video, all on screen @ the same time, the amp/clamp, the Amm-1, and the voltage, we/you could pause the video, @ the exact same time, the peak/max power showed, to see voltage, amperage, and power ALL @ the exact millisecond that the power showed, hope this helps?

[@stereomojo]

Thanks Evil, good info! I may reach out to them, but idk yet. Merry Christmas!

[@evilinside5984]

@@stereomojo- Merry X Mas, and Happy Holidays🎉 to you, and your family! Thank you so much for your time making these videos.

[@JasonWW2000]

​@@evilinside5984All the things your saying about full bridge you actually mean to say Taramps. Those are all Taramps specific things. Nothing to do with the amplifier topology. 👍

[@evilinside5984]

@@JasonWW2000- I said it also depends on what quality of components a company decides to use. I did not specifically say any company, as i have seen other companies amplifiers blow easily, with full bridge designs, like Sundown Audio, SoundQubed, Massive Audio, Taramps, Banda, Sound digital, Stetsom, Marts, there are many more just can't think of them right now.

[@JasonWW2000]

@@evilinside5984 My point was that the amp topology doesn't play a role. Its more about the company that makes it.

[@josephhammond2557]

You could have used 4ga to 0 ga reducer as amp was starved of power

[@Alex-cf8mr]

Highly doubt it was starved. No clue how long that lead is but 4g wire can handle 500a with 4’ of cable to problem

[@ashwincrownmang]

Why this amp blow out????

[@stereomojo]

Amp go boom!

[@theloon218]

I don't think anyone has tested Nemisis Audio amps curios if they do anywhere near rated power I have a Nemisis fierce 15 and it's a Beast

[@WILLSHIP916]

Mr mojo. What is your power supply? Also did you pin the GAIN ADJ? DID YOU ADJUST ANY SETTINGS?? GREAT VIDEOS 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@stereomojo]

Yes, I had the filters opened up, with boost turned all the way down/off. I also had the gain set with a -10db overlap and didn’t turn it all the way up, so it would’ve ended up around -8db overlap.

[@stereomojo]

I forgot to answer your question about the power supply. I’ve got 160ah of yinlong lithium and a 100a power supply.

[@phila8160]

Junk , why would people buy these? It's like playing the lottery every day when you get in the car and turn system on.

[@theloon218]

I know what amp your testing next hint it's another Brazilian amp . Merry Xmas

[@stereomojo]

Lol, you’re probably right! Merry Christmas!!

[@popspowell4981]

Could you send me this amp please I have use for it

[@joshholden8561]

That amp should not be pulling over 400 amps im 99 % sure there used mismatching mosfets and transistors from not the same batch and was out of tolerance.

[@stereomojo]

I bought it on Amazon from “Epic Proportions”

[@joshholden8561]

@@stereomojo u can click on ur purchase and do return replace and they send u a new 1 u'll have it in 3 to 5 days besides Christmas that day don't count I'll show u I had to do same thing let me try to find it. Give me a minute.

[@AshyLarryTM]

I’m in a big car audio community here on KZbin and on Facebook . I say it all the time that Brazilian Full Bridge sucks and tons of people fight me on it. How many Taramps have to go up in flames on camera during legitimate testing before people start realizing they do in fact suck?

[@thedoctor787]

Dat ended well.

[@erickhdz9375]

Test amp stinger

[@CrystalClearSQL]

Wow, dude you have the worst luck with amps. That's a bummer. Thank you for doing whatcha do.

[@stereomojo]

I guess I push them a little too hard sometimes. I just figure they should do the run or go into protect. I test so many that can handle lots of abuse, while others are pretty fragile.

[@stereomojo]

Thanks for the support!

[@AlChisum]

Them amplifiers ain't shit all they do is burn up

[@memyselfandi3925]

Unless you buy a 1ohm amp its your fault when it burns. Taramps mostly are 2ohm and up.

[@stereomojo]

This was a 1 ohm amp

[@kxraidex5477]

Ur using 4 gauge wire on what should be using 1/0. That's y it went into protect. U are supposed to use a 1/0 to 4 gauge reducer.

[@stereomojo]

@@kxraidex5477 not true, at all

[@kxraidex5477]

@stereomojo 4 gauge can't handle that much amperage. Which is why it went into protect.

[@stereomojo]

@ I get what you’re saying, but they don’t intend for people to use reducers.

[@stereomojo]

@ also, 18” of 4 gauge can handle a lot of amperage. That wasn’t the reason for the protect.

[@kxraidex5477]

@@stereomojo it's meant for standard 0 gauge wire,not car audio 1/0 wire. Which is why if u use standard 0, it will fit as it's the same as car audio 4 gauge

[@joshholden8561]

That blew the power supply fets

[@dherring44]

😮

[@bass305-HCCA]

People have to remember that testing amps on the dyno is alot harder on the internals of an amp. With woofers, this would not have happened.

[@daminhansford755]

The 4AGW can NEVER EVER deliver 300+amps of in rush current ( no matter the brands claim's )..it's as simple as that . Taramps will repair this they seem like a very decent after sales service company

[@Cal3666]

That's not true !!!! SAE .. Society Of Automive Engineers have a put together a chart for current and voltage drop at given lengths of wire . You can use 4 awg at 3.75 feet to carry 300 amps at 13.5 volts , 2% voltage drop ! The ones with degrees know what they are talking about . This test was legit ! And nothing was done wrong here on this test . Full bridge amplifiers are not for subwoofer duty.. (my 2cent ) this test clearly shows that. . Rockford fosgate and all other legit brands use this test , as harsh as it should be to bring a customer a "safe " product ! Let's not call Apples oranges here . I wish I could get a 3000 watt rms subwoofer amplifier for $180 . But the the proof is in the pudding . Great job for this content creator 👏.

[@daminhansford755]

On a constant resistive load of 1OHM Id not use 4AGW other KZbin creators have not smoked there TARAMPS HD3000 they where using 0AGW with reduced no problem with the tests .. you can easily check this on KZbin

[@JasonWW2000]

​@@Cal3666You can't really say full bridge amp topology is not for subs. JL Audio slash series monoblocks have run subs for decades, no issue. Theres lots of full bridge sub amps currently on the market and they work just fine. The issue here is simply Taramps design philosophy. I believe this specific model was designed for full range use only, like on a stunt wall. That's why they have different models specifically designed for bass. The Taramps philosophy, and other Brazilian companies I've seen, is to cut costs as much as possible. To the point they sacrifice quality and reliability. At 6 cents per watt, it's simply too cheap.

[@Cal3666]

​@@JasonWW2000 true ! I won't argue a 1000 full bridge from Alpine or a reputable electronics maker . Thank you for the comment .

[@MatthewGuynn-ki8rn]

Absolutely 💯 ​@@JasonWW2000

[@Abouttime2024]

I will not buy that Amp. Skar it is...

[@omtfiji]

this amp is fine , just dont use it for subs , ive been installing taramp amps for years you just need to know what to use them on , HD for highs and mids and BASS series ofc for the subs

[@giobrazy]

@@omtfijiit’s a monoblock

[@AlChisum]

You talk to much

[@stereomojo]

@@AlChisum you type too much

[@351turn]

That’s a Mids and highs amp.. Taramps DID NOT design HD for any other purpose.. you put a death sentence on any Brazilian amp designed for Mids and highs when you put a Subwoofer 40hz sine wave through it like that… if you want a Brazilian Bass amp.. get one that’s made for the 40hz ie… Bass 3K or Smart versions..

[@SylousPost]

It's mono sub amp