TCL C835 Review - Cheaper Mini LED TV That Beats Samsung & Sony in This Important Area!

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@MichaelBeeny
@MichaelBeeny 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's appalling that I keep hearing "after calibration" When you purchase a new TV, I don't expect to have to pay someone (if you can FIND someone) to correctly calibrate your TV. It should be correct out of the box. I appreciate some people like big red skin tone and sky so blue it hurts your eyes, but each TV should come with a defeat button that presents the picture "calibrated"
@CaniceMcGrath
@CaniceMcGrath 2 жыл бұрын
Note your calibrating to your rooms lighting that affects what you...Note Dolby Vision IQ automatically adjust for this.
@TheUAProdigy
@TheUAProdigy 2 жыл бұрын
Also not that they released an app that calibrates the tv for you. It does a decent job at it too.
@getsideways7257
@getsideways7257 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheUAProdigy And how it's supposed to calibrate anything? Without the specialized hardware you might as well "calibrate" your TV by the eye.
@getsideways7257
@getsideways7257 2 жыл бұрын
What is even more appalling is the fact that even the "factory calibrated" monitors have BS colors and white balance quite often...
@funguy8444
@funguy8444 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me you are TV casual without telling you are a TV casual. A PROPER calibration requires the TV to be calibrated to YOUR TV space, so that is the lighting from the ceiling lights, any sunlight and the various shadows around your space. A TV cannot be properly calibrated out of the box, there's the generic picture settings where manufacturers attempt to but for it to be done properly and right, you need a technician to come to your house. Know what you're saying before making such an arrogant comment
@kovalveli
@kovalveli 2 жыл бұрын
Talk about an in-depth review, good stuff Vincent.
@mattsanchez4893
@mattsanchez4893 2 жыл бұрын
My plasma tv does an incredible job with black levels and contrast, I hope it never dies
@aquaneon8012
@aquaneon8012 2 жыл бұрын
According to miniled research articles, if you have a super high native contrast, you can have the same perceivable contrast with much less dimming zones compared to another tv with low native contrast but very high amount of dimming zones. Hence why this TCL may seemingly have a better local dimming algorithm compared to the other Samsung and Sony tvs owing to the high native contrast- and remember, this TCL miniled is only entry level with around 300 local dimming zones. The flagship C93 has over 1000 local dimming zones on a 65 inch.
@darreng1918
@darreng1918 2 жыл бұрын
“Filling in every inch of space possible, which is just the sort of thing I would do” lol. I love this guy.
@blankarung
@blankarung 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. Just found this channel today while searching for TCL tv review. Just 5 minutes of your video, reaffirm my decision to buy this TV although I don’t understand fully what youre talking about but it sounds like this TV is the bomb
@lfsky
@lfsky 2 жыл бұрын
Even if it doesn't surpass your current TV or your next choice of purchase, it is pushing lower end picture quality forward for everyone. Design of the TV is very finished and clean looking, and the sound will definately be worthy of choosing it over another comparable product. VA is still excellent and there is specific usage case of LED technology such as retro gaming. Hopefully they iron out those chipset issue in FW update pushing it as far as it will go.
@ismaeljrp1
@ismaeljrp1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this isn't really "lower end". This is firmly above mid tier into high end. Just probably not creme de la creme. I'd say lower end is a cheap Insignia, Sceptre, Westinghouse....
@lfsky
@lfsky 2 жыл бұрын
Don't count entry level worthy of discussion unless they're admirably good. TV $500 $1000 cheaper than something released two years ago, guess I should have specified enthusiast
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who plays a lot of old games I wish it was easier to get a straight answer about new TV's function with older inputs and devices. I don't really see people trying something line an Nintendo console on it for example - which would be a good baseline for a lot of potential problems. If I am playing a lot of old stuff if new TV's don't play nice with it it is something I really do need to know - but to often there is this assumption that "gamers" just play Call of Duty "current year" and that is it - which isn't very helpful when you are playing things from the 1980's and 1990's very often like I do. let alone modern indy titles that behave in a lot of similar ways to Classic and vintage gaming too.
@lfsky
@lfsky 2 жыл бұрын
Tried to use an XBOX 360 and also XBOX / PS3 on the LG CX and the result was less than desirable, however on the 3440x1440 MX34VQ it looked amazing especially with sharpness and edge enhancement cranked. Considering the PPI and sub 1080p scaling this is still a valid comparison nor would I commonly suggest ULTRAWIDE unless it was desirable, but it both featured a VA panel and worked excellent on older stuff just for reference. Guess to truly use the LG CX or onward for comparative console and have it properly enhance your experience it is going to require a FRAMEMIESTER or similar upscaler on the front end thus utilize Super Resolution and other various AI GEN 3 processing capability to it's fullest potential. See, never hear mentioned require PC Mode for lowest response time in any situation due to disabled feature speed optimization. Would put the MX34VQ a solid notch above the ALIENWARE QD-OLED ULTRAWIDE for this reason, which has very little customization available. Difference is quite staggering and could make or break experience. Even decade old television produce consistent result
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 2 жыл бұрын
@@lfsky Yes I have heard some strange reports about OLED's and older Machines - maybe I need to pester Digital Foundary about this issue - I think Black Frames helps with the smearing issues a bit. But I recall some early LCD's didn't play nicely with older machines either. such as resulting in a very dark image for example. I know some people have said they got good results using upscaling in TV mode rather than game mode on some sets.
@jeremylyne6768
@jeremylyne6768 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought the 55 inch c835 for my bedroom for $1150 on sale. Really looking forward to receiving it! Looks like a great value TV.
@PioDavideGiorgio
@PioDavideGiorgio 2 жыл бұрын
i want a review of c935.. ..when? i want to buy it but there isn t any review online for this super mini led tv...why? its hw is superb in 65\75 inch ...i want to see a comparison with LG g2 , sony a95k and samsung s95b..
@majorkursk780
@majorkursk780 2 жыл бұрын
I looked up the specs on this C835 and they are really quite impressive. Hopefully in the world of actual use this will be a incredible tv that can rival or surpass Sony and Samsung for value and features.
@majorkursk780
@majorkursk780 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigDaddy-666 No mention of a release date on this model...you have anything to share regarding this?
@FirstLast-wx1yj
@FirstLast-wx1yj 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Vincent, I am looking forward to see the TCL C93 (also known as C935) Mini LED TV review and comparisons with the TCL C83, sony and samsung similar TVs. Thaks for your good reviews and thanks for Surfshark for thier support .
@psyanide1996
@psyanide1996 6 ай бұрын
Amazingly and uncommonly in depth review. Wonderful, thank you and please keep it up!
@wafflefreetech7062
@wafflefreetech7062 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Vincent, thankyou for your honest and fair review of the tcl C83. The poor QC control is a let down in regards to the dse. It stands to reason that we will see similar results on the C935. Can you share any updates on an upcoming C935 review ? E.g. are you doing a review of the c935 and if you are when are we likely to see it ?
@vinayakgupta6105
@vinayakgupta6105 2 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for this review for a very long time!!! Thank you!!
@SpencersStuffTV
@SpencersStuffTV 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see these brands giving great options in the lower market!
@Psilobite
@Psilobite 2 жыл бұрын
But only in the Eastern Hemisphere?
@martinweston7144
@martinweston7144 2 жыл бұрын
@@Psilobite JB HiFi has these for sale in Australia, 75" is AUS $3195, 65" is AUS $2395, 55" AUS $1595
@Masked_Official
@Masked_Official Жыл бұрын
@@martinweston7144 $1295 now for the 55''
@C0BEX
@C0BEX 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing what they can do for this price, I wish they would start making PC monitors. Something with this performance and price would sell like hot cakes.
@Noticerofthings
@Noticerofthings 2 жыл бұрын
Different technology
@007GoldenLion
@007GoldenLion 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately most PC gamers are cavemen stuck in 2015 who for some reason still think IPS panels are the best(And ruining HDR gaming on PC for the rest of us)
@ForceInEvHorizon
@ForceInEvHorizon 2 жыл бұрын
@@007GoldenLion ips can still be good... If company put 500-700 local dimming zones and not fkn 90(im looking at you sony)
@007GoldenLion
@007GoldenLion 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForceInEvHorizon By it's own nature VA panels take more advantage of local diming than IPS. Also Sony has less diming zones of the big 4 but compensates it with the best local diming algorith.
@ForceInEvHorizon
@ForceInEvHorizon 2 жыл бұрын
@@007GoldenLion rtings tested the Sony monitor with 90 local dimming zones... It isnt that good and all zones are always active most of the time
@suedepup
@suedepup 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this TV. I've been dying to ditch my deceptively advertised X900H for almost 2 years now, but (thanks solely to Sony) I now have trust issues spending a ton of money on a TV. This is one of the TVs on my mini-LED short list, along with the upcoming Hisense U8H and the new LG mini-LED offerings for 2022. As an OLED-avoiding dark room gamer who is sensitive to blooming, it's been an uphill battle. This gives me hope. Cheers!
@ValdeSanus
@ValdeSanus 2 жыл бұрын
Go find a 2016 Z9D!
@dallasgrant
@dallasgrant 2 жыл бұрын
I stuck with mine, until about 2 weeks ago when the mainboard shat itself, luckily(maybe), I had insurance on it, store was going to fix it until they found out the mainboard is $480ish USD, I'm in AU so that's near $900+labour, not worth it so I got $1090 store credit, no expiry so I'm reviewing as many options as I can, I was looking at the X90K, but since I've seen this TCL for only a few 100 dollars more I am intrigued to move away from sony. I game on my PS5 so this may be the option for me, add I use my old PC too, I think I'm sold so far, waiting for boxing day sales probably.
@lilnash7
@lilnash7 Жыл бұрын
@@dallasgrant man you give me hope lmao my TCL packed up and Costco sending someone to fix I'm.hoping it's unfixable so I can get my cash I paid for and go buy a new TV but knowing my luck 😂😂😂
@dallasgrant
@dallasgrant Жыл бұрын
@@lilnash7 Unless it's an easy fix I don't think they like to repair TV's, anything really, it's probably cheaper to pay out or store credit etc. Good luck.
@daeux
@daeux 2 жыл бұрын
thanks Vincent, please review the TCL C93 next :)
@bobmorane7329
@bobmorane7329 2 жыл бұрын
or 65x925 pro last year
@Gkhn32
@Gkhn32 2 жыл бұрын
Will they finally be able to release a decent TV in Europe without botching the panel-OS-chipset or all of them ? Sony and Samsung are really sky-rocketing their prices. A good price-performance TV is what I need badly.
@dariomladenovski7047
@dariomladenovski7047 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the 55inch QN90B is selling for 1600 euro where I live, complete insanity
@AgimBMusicChannel
@AgimBMusicChannel Жыл бұрын
@@dariomladenovski7047 the 65 inch now is 1600 euro in Germany
@WhatTheHex
@WhatTheHex 2 жыл бұрын
Vincent.. you should include so called "flicker free" test for gaming mode.. personally my eyes burn if TV uses 120hz backlight flickering in game mode (like samsung) as it causes horrible double image in 60fps/hz games.. at least to my eyes C935 was flicker free... I imagine C835 should be too?
@hottysquirrel
@hottysquirrel 2 жыл бұрын
Rtings does a good job at doing "Flicker Free" analysis and they tell the range of what you should set your TV's backlight or brightness so you can benefit from it. I used to have a Vizio M series 2016 or 17 and it would KILL my eyes when I watched anything with HDR. I did get a TCL R635 and it's almost flicker free, I am able to watch HDR content all day without issues, even in the dark.
@stevenvanroosmalen
@stevenvanroosmalen 2 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me more about this problem?
@WhatTheHex
@WhatTheHex 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenvanroosmalen For an example oled tv's emit light whole time (and some lcd tv's also) and so movement in screen looks solid but (bit) blurry.. some lcd tv's pulse backlight 120hz to improve clarity but that creates IMO worse image as it creates 2 light pulse per 1 frame in 60fps game. That shows as double image or ghost image in our perception of movement we see. rtings reviews show this in one of their tests. Some hate blurry movement, some hate pulsed double image..
@stevenvanroosmalen
@stevenvanroosmalen 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhatTheHex thank you so much for this response. Do you have the link to the ratings test. The reason I ask you this, is because I experienced some difficulty buying a new tv for myself in the last two years. I experience some sort of ghosting or trouble with movement and I am very sensitive towards this. I have written a reply on another vid about this, which I will copy down here (edited to a smaller portion). I’m wondering, might this be my problem as well? My other post: In the last two years I have bought and returned three brand new TV’s. Two Samsung QLED’s and one LG OLED. While the latter one wasn’t a fit in my bright living room, I’ve found that all three televisions didn’t handle motion the way my current television does. Now I am in distress, since I don’t think any modern 4K 120Hz HDR television will flow as natural on my television as I am used to. My current television is a Sony KD - 49XD7004. The TV is far from perfect. Although it supports 4K, it doesn’t support 60fps, nor does it have a great HDR setting. On my PS5, I’ve turned off the HDR function so I can enjoy the vibrant colors of my games more. While motion on this TV isn’t perfect either - subtitles tent leave some pixels behind when the shot pans - the issues I experienced with newer TV’s is far worse. The LG OLED55C9PLA, the Samsung Neo 50QN92A and the Samsung QE55Q90T have all been in my possession for a couple of days in the last two years. I bought these TV’s because I would love to have better HDR, better picture quality, HDMI2.1 and 120 Hz for 60fps. And while they delivered on those feautures, I also got motion issues which most forums and sites describe as judder and stutter issues. Allow me to explain what I’m experiencing on the screen (which varies from TV to TV, but I will generalize here): While playing Assassins Creed Valhalla on my PS5 I can’t believe how sharp the three promising televisions are. However, when I move the camera around my character, my character’s outline gets a sort of extra aura around it. As if there are some pixel distortions aroud Eivor (the character). Playing with the judder and stutter settings will fix this tremendously. However, now the background is showing distortions when I move the camera around. The effects are so heavy for me, that I’m getting a headache. One thing that shows the motion issues well is when I open the map of the game. While scrolling through the map, all the lines on the map are vibrating and thus become blurry. Only when I stop scrolling, the lines and places are sharp. I can’t read any placenames when scrolling through the map. I experience the same problems with Spider-Man: Miles Morales. Both the map issue and the motion-issue with the camera are present when playing this game on one of the three former mentioned TV’s. However, this game has a bigger issue where skyscraper buildings are cut in two when moving the camera or swinging trough the city. If I didn’t have my Sony TV, I would’ve blamed the game for such a bug (which reminds me of screen tearing). These motion issues are completely gone when playing the games on 60fps. Then everything is smooth and works great! So now I’m thinking, this is a framerate issue. Are these new televisions incapable of creating flawless motion of anything less than 60fps? Since Assassins Creed Valhalla and Spider-Man: Miles Morales are the only two games I have which can be set on 60fps (and I value the fidelity mode more than the performance mode), I’m somewhat screwed, aren’t I? Watching Netflix or a blu-ray gives me other unpleasant results. The credits of each film have the same effect as the maps of the games. The credits - when scrolling - are not clear at all. They are - in fact - unreadable. Blurry and vibrating on the screen. I can adjust this somewhat with the Judder and Stutter settings, but than other things in the film start to become an issue for me. When the camera is panning in a shot, I can experience something akin to framedrop. The pan is not smooth at all. Again, playing with these settings I can adjust it so that the framedrop drops, but the motion is all blurry again. I once compared my Sony to a Samsung side by side and I am so surprised that my older Sony model is displaying motion in these shots way more accurately. So 25fps is a problem for these TV’s as well? Which is a problem for me, because I am a major cinephile. And admittedly, I’m lazy as well. I prefer one setting for all my TV uses. I don’t want to jump into settings for watching a film and then adjust them again for playing a game. This doesn’t work for me at all. Ofcourse I’ve tested with others games, other consoles and multiple film platforms as well. But the conclusion is always the same. I need perfect motion and these modern televisions don’t handle motion very well.
@Goenie2005
@Goenie2005 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenvanroosmalen check out Sony with the new XR processor
@djsnowpdx
@djsnowpdx 2 жыл бұрын
Mini LED impressed me greatly in the iPad Pro and MacBook Pro, both of which I bought for other reasons. I can see it competing with OLED, definitely. Plus, no pulse-width modulation! No flicker!
@rollinburket
@rollinburket 2 жыл бұрын
i’ve had the opposite experience. i find the blooming on my ipad pro so annoying that i can’t see myself even considering a tv that uses mini LED
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M 2 жыл бұрын
I hate blooming. OLED > Mini LED LCD.
@maaingan
@maaingan 2 жыл бұрын
@@rollinburket defective unit. Your iPad Pro is supposed to have nearly absolute zero measurable blooming. You can measure the amount of blooming on each unit, stock iPads should have nowhere remotely near enough blooming to even be perceptible to the human eye
@nascimentoarantes1229
@nascimentoarantes1229 2 жыл бұрын
These tcl are not cheap... Check and you'll see they are in the same price range as LG b1 oleds... Oled picture is soooo much better and natural than any LCD
@dariomladenovski7047
@dariomladenovski7047 2 жыл бұрын
I hate burn in, MINI LED > overhyped OLED that can't even do true HDR because the screen is too dim
@TheRealLegendoz
@TheRealLegendoz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very detailed and very helpful review, waiting for your review of the TCL c935 please, thank you.
@sirqdoled1203
@sirqdoled1203 2 жыл бұрын
After back and forward dialogue with your colleague E.Beeckmans we came to the same conclusion and for 899 euro for the 55 inch (special launch price) it was a real bargain. Two happy customers are already enjoying the amazing PQ and deep blacks for a more than affordable price. 😉
@Serandi1987
@Serandi1987 2 жыл бұрын
Just get the Xiaomi P1 for 400€!!! It's amazing!!!
@marcuscole8796
@marcuscole8796 2 жыл бұрын
@@Serandi1987 Stop feeding the CCP ... both are Chinese brands
@shinigamiabarairenji
@shinigamiabarairenji 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you can review a C93 soon. It would be nice to see how much better it is than the C83.
@daxie47
@daxie47 2 жыл бұрын
Is there an optimal settings guide for the c835 yet?
@scrappychildhood6633
@scrappychildhood6633 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when you had 500 subs good job Bro
@adams983
@adams983 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, just wanted to confirm, so does this mean the tv can actually play true 4k@120hz ? or is it "fake" 4K@120hz like the Sony Bravia X85K? I read that the Sony X90K does truly support 4k@120hz but not X85K due to its chipset. Just wanted to make sure if the C835 plays 4K@120hz like X85K, or X90K?
@thelastbanana0678
@thelastbanana0678 Жыл бұрын
I heard that it can run 4k on 60 Hz for pc if you go more that quality of pictures get more blurry
@Ahmed-dx2cb
@Ahmed-dx2cb 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this detailed review. This is how a TV review should be done.
@HexedHavoc
@HexedHavoc 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance they will fix 444 @ 4k/120hz in a future firmware update? I notice if I set my 55c835 to 60hz pc mode that it displays properly via a test pattern but if I even go to 61hz it is blurry/messy ;(
@thelastbanana0678
@thelastbanana0678 Жыл бұрын
Really?? I'm look forward to buy this TV for my pc gaming I would like to run it on 4k 120hz .. but what you say here make me nervous 🥲
@HexedHavoc
@HexedHavoc Жыл бұрын
@@thelastbanana0678 Honestly dont let it worry you, for real content everything looks great, only it test patterns can you notice any weirdness because of 422. I've had the tv now for about 5 months and very happy with the picture quality using it with my pc :) hdr is epic :D
@thelastbanana0678
@thelastbanana0678 Жыл бұрын
@@HexedHavoc thanks for your reply I already bought Samsung qn90 55 inch it's way much better and have many features make it amazing for gaming and movie ,, I'm not big fan for watching movies but as I know from many reviews in KZbin they say it can run 144hz in 4k Very smooth and have wonderful images the price is little bit higher the C835 but it's worth.. can't wait to receive it 😄😄
@vaverkaj
@vaverkaj Жыл бұрын
Did any update resolve the chroma 444 subsampling issue? Are you able to run the display at 120hz with a PC?
@justinm2521
@justinm2521 Жыл бұрын
I've had this tv for a year now, damn it goes alright for a mini led TV. I bought the 75 inch in aus for 2.5kaud. A bit steep but it's a solid tv. I still have my samsung ru8000 82 inch, the parents have that now... will get an oled 75 inch next time round just waiting for tech to develop so TV's like the s95 become affordable. If your looking for a decent mid range reliable tv then tcl has you covered with the c835..
@Dudenesschocobo
@Dudenesschocobo 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention if vrr works with local dimming. The most important thing actually. Please inform if you can.
@WhatTheHex
@WhatTheHex 2 жыл бұрын
He said it works even there is no option for it while in vrr mode. Local dimming was visible in that screenshot. I saw same thing when I was testing C935.. I can not say if it is full "on" or best possible as there was not much games using vrr that had really black background/part to observe ld performance..
@E96
@E96 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhatTheHex How's the DSE on the C935?
@WhatTheHex
@WhatTheHex 2 жыл бұрын
@@E96 It is visible in DSE test videos, not so often in real material.. so not best, not worst.. for comparison I have Sony XE9305 which has pretty clean backlight.. only edges has slight uniform dimming visible (that do not distract or bother me at all..) But as that sony is not in market anymore I dont know how c935 DSE compares to models currently in sale..
@ggp9690
@ggp9690 2 жыл бұрын
This was the reason I returned the 2021 TCL 6-Series. I couldn’t get local dimming to work with VRR. It sucks, because I actually really liked the picture on the TV.
@Dudenesschocobo
@Dudenesschocobo 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhatTheHex nope that's not enough proof for me man. Already a victim of xh90. Tcl should say yes it's working totally.
@bitsbobs8158
@bitsbobs8158 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gutted that Panasonic stopped making full array local dimming TVs. In my living room I'm still rocking Panasonics last FALD TV they ever made, 2016's Panasonic DX902. It's still going strong and outperforms all these high end Samsung QLEDs that I've been buying for my gaming room. It even has more dimming zones than many of Samsung's offerings. I've had the Samsung Q90R, Q900T, Neo QLED QN95A and QN95B. Yet I still prefer the Panasonic. The only thing I prefer about the Samsung's is the anti reflective screen coating.
@scottylans
@scottylans 2 жыл бұрын
Plasma or OLED. These are the only 2 options for picture quality
@bitsbobs8158
@bitsbobs8158 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottylans Panasonic made the DX902 for plasma lovers.
@getsideways7257
@getsideways7257 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottylans Only QD-OLED and self-emissive quantum dots in the near future.
@jaythomasni
@jaythomasni 2 жыл бұрын
Not Sure why Panasonic shying away from high end TVs. They left North America, They should. make a FALD 8K MiniLed as a DX902 successor.
@bitsbobs8158
@bitsbobs8158 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaythomasni Panasonic still make flagship TV's, just OLED ones. They do professional custom panels and stuff. The rest of their range is edgelit LED crap though. They seriously need to move away from edgelit TVs and pump out some FALDs. Panasonic making a dedicated gaming TV would be epic.
@loki76
@loki76 2 жыл бұрын
wonder what kind of CSOT (TCL) panels Sony is buying that are so crappy for X95K. They are literally BLUE in native contrast exacerbating the blooming making it blueish and more visible. Imagine they instead had 7500:1 native contrast panels. I know wide viewing angle filters reduce native contrast, but does it also make them blue? I rather have a MiniLED without that wide angle and 7500:1 instead and blooming would be less obtrusive.
@Emptrix
@Emptrix 2 жыл бұрын
Sony has been screwing up year after year since the X900F. If it weren't for the C835 still being incapable of handling 4K 120hz at full 4:4:4 chroma, I would have entirely not consider the Sonys but unfortunately this is still the case. X90K seems to still be a viable option despite the blooming issues. If Samsung further reduces the price of their QN95B I guess that will be the buy if we can look past their worse screen uniformity quality control.
@irreplaceableboyyy
@irreplaceableboyyy 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Vincent ? Thank you for the video 🙂 I wish you will do another video "best settings for PS5 on this TV" and HDR calibration with tone mapping ON as you recommend it for gaming...
@TheRealLegendoz
@TheRealLegendoz 2 жыл бұрын
TCL c935 review pleeeease, right now there is a very good deal here in a local store and I can't wait for your excellent detail review to come out for the c935, great specs for the price, and thank you for this very informative video.
@alexsaraceno6144
@alexsaraceno6144 2 жыл бұрын
Vincent, you mentioned the Native Contrast is 7,500:1. But what about the Contrast with Local Dimming set to High on this TCL 8-series ? I know Samsung hits almost 20,000: 1 with local dimming to High.
@councilofflorence4896
@councilofflorence4896 Жыл бұрын
Did you find out?
@alexsaraceno6144
@alexsaraceno6144 Жыл бұрын
@@councilofflorence4896 No never did. At this point, I moved on from this TV. The reviews were not good.
@CaniceMcGrath
@CaniceMcGrath 2 жыл бұрын
Why tcl leaving c935 last to release for reviewers. The 935 has 1080/1920 dimming zones vs 835 fewer 300 odd dimming zones
@reyhanmanik2453
@reyhanmanik2453 2 жыл бұрын
Because of this i love tcl and panasonic thank you.. from Indonesia
@TheRealLegendoz
@TheRealLegendoz 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a comparison between the new TCL C935 and Samsung QN90A, that will be interesting, I want to buy a new TV and these two TVs are in my list.
@E96
@E96 2 жыл бұрын
Any ETA on the C935 review date?
@recordatron
@recordatron 2 жыл бұрын
Late to the party but I've just got one of these units. For the life of me, I can't seem to get freesynce(gsync) to work correctly on my PC via an rtx 3080. I've activated VRR in the TV settings and turned it on via Nvidia control panel but it doesn't seem to activate in the same way that it does via console. Does anyone have any advice? EDIT: I got it to work by changing picture settings back to default in the resolution tab in the Nvidia control panel.
@hazelman1
@hazelman1 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr. Vincent, some people experiencing Coil Whine in this TCL C835 when setting it in Local Dimming at High and black cover the entire screen. And they said it feel annoying because it's noticeable. Wonder to know why it happen on this TCL C835.. Can you explain it?
@MMoreau
@MMoreau 2 жыл бұрын
The TCL93 should be even better : much more miniLED, OD 5, wide angles, 2000 nits, Dolby Atmos dedicated speakers
@werkuuw1158
@werkuuw1158 2 жыл бұрын
can't wait for Vincent when he makes review of 75 inch c93 that's what I'm thinking to buy that's why waiting for review
@MrHafidm
@MrHafidm 2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to review the tcl c93?
@leonardsmith82
@leonardsmith82 2 жыл бұрын
I have to admit, you will give praise to the underdog when deserved 🙏
@DravenxEyeless
@DravenxEyeless Жыл бұрын
I currently own a LG B7 OLED that has seen some battle, and some small but noticable burn ins, and I'm thinking on replacing it, and I was thinking about this TV, because I've been told the 825 version was quite up there against OLED tvs. Should I get this TV so I get something better than what I own now or should I look elsewhere, without breaking the bank?
@yuan-jia
@yuan-jia 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Vincent, will you post a comparison/review with the c93 series from TCL to see what their flagship has to offer in comparison?
@davidgodal98
@davidgodal98 2 жыл бұрын
When can we expect a review of the C935?
@flaw3dgenius222
@flaw3dgenius222 2 жыл бұрын
This TV is impossible to find unless it only just came out yesterday?
@budthecyborg4575
@budthecyborg4575 2 жыл бұрын
My intention is to buy the C93 as soon as Vince gets his review done, hopefully this C83 review can act as a beta test to get the C93 firmware into a more polished state at launch.
@chch9570
@chch9570 2 жыл бұрын
I have the TCL R646, will it be that one day I get the update where they put the Gamebar? and improve the software even more? because the R646 has neither a year that went on sale and it can be said that it is still recent!!!
@encapsulatio
@encapsulatio 2 жыл бұрын
When are you releasing the TCL C93 review? Marek sent you both the C83 and C93.
@E96
@E96 2 жыл бұрын
September
@ordinadim1732
@ordinadim1732 2 жыл бұрын
I beg you, do the review of the c935!
@MrBasHolland
@MrBasHolland Жыл бұрын
I just ordered the 65 inch miniled from TCL. Because of the huge screen im worried 1080p content will look pixelated? My last tv was a Samsung plasma 59inch (2012/1080p tv) and looked decent image, but this is a step bigger...so not sure TCL uses upscaling for 1080p content?
@cyxvgs4499
@cyxvgs4499 2 жыл бұрын
Your LZ2000 has got un problem no? The white in the Matrix scene is so blue😱 i just tried with my old HZ2000, and the white is white the difference is awesome !
@ouki4925
@ouki4925 2 жыл бұрын
Is VRR flicker exclusive to HDMI interface or do monitors with Display Port also have it?
@Xperiapro33
@Xperiapro33 Жыл бұрын
Samsung g7 :D
@andy.w4086
@andy.w4086 2 жыл бұрын
When are you getting c935 for testing Vincent
2 жыл бұрын
In Hungary the TCL 65C835 and the LG 65QNED863QA basically has the same price. Between theese two, what would you recommend and why? (I owned an OLED TV, and don't want another because of the burn in and low brightness. I had Samsung QLED q85a and did not like any part of it.)
@vasanthkumar-nv8yy
@vasanthkumar-nv8yy 2 жыл бұрын
Sony x90k vs samsung qn90a vs Tcl c835 which one to go if i get all three 55inch tv for same price??????????
@mahdiyussuf9804
@mahdiyussuf9804 2 жыл бұрын
@0:06 What *IS* that demo video with the oil over the shrimp? Can't find it
@soulfreshACV
@soulfreshACV 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for your review of TCL C935
@johnnybravo4045
@johnnybravo4045 2 ай бұрын
I would prefer TCL C855. It looks like mini LED has new age.
@don.timeless4993
@don.timeless4993 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for their Micro LED TVs
@NyteRazor
@NyteRazor 2 жыл бұрын
Wow a woofer built in behind the tv. That's a first I've seen. Impressive. Thank you for finding this gem.
@shotgunmasterQL
@shotgunmasterQL 2 жыл бұрын
There have definitely been "sub" woofers built into other TVs as well. The latest TV where it was pretty prominent was Samsung's Q70R (I think it was a ported sub) few years ago, but I think some other Samsungs since then might have also had subs built in. But Euro Philips TVs have had different speaker arrangements, including built in subwoofers, for years now. My dad's old FullHD Philips from around 2012 also had a subwoofer, with the woofer being aimed towards the back wall (I think it was also bass radiator type of design instead of acoustic suspension or ported design) so that it would have some room gain. Funny last example, but my old 2007 Fujitsu Siemens laptop also advertised that it had a built in subwoofer, which was good enough to make the sound feel decently full, but of course it didn't hit the very low notes. The speakers were pretty serviceable thanks to it, and it actually made the keyboard keys vibrate and make buzzing noises a little bit. Not bad if you were using the keyboard and had hands on the machine because then the casis wouldnt vibrate the keys, but not pleasant if you were watching or listening something on it without putting pressure on the casis.
@johnymotionpictures5256
@johnymotionpictures5256 2 жыл бұрын
When TCL 935 review?
@braddersj3511
@braddersj3511 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Vincent, would you be able to use your contacts at TCL to enquire as to why the 75" C83 isn't going to be available in the UK? And perhaps, push them to do so? It's the perfect TV for me but I need that 75" size so I'm really disappointed it won't be available!
@LekaLEL
@LekaLEL 2 жыл бұрын
Same here in South Africa, they haven't even launched the sony x90k to date, so we stuck with old lg c1 tvs and over priced Samsung neo qled tvs
@tarkan8047
@tarkan8047 Жыл бұрын
Hi Vincent, sorry to ressurect an older video, but I have noticed when using VRR from PS5 to this TV, I get colour temperature fluctuations in game. I noticed it first with Hogwarts Legacy and since the recent Gran Turismo 7 update, the same when in that game. Any insight as to what might cause an effect such as this?
@ik5513
@ik5513 Жыл бұрын
Great review! perhaps you know if the C835 is euqivlanet to C831 ? I am based in NL where only the C831 is available
@memphis9286
@memphis9286 Жыл бұрын
yes
@archie9104
@archie9104 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Will there be a review of the TCL C93?
@E96
@E96 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@shadowman_390
@shadowman_390 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome content man. Not that interedted in the content, but I apreciate the depth.
@thiagodelgado3128
@thiagodelgado3128 2 жыл бұрын
This TV has 4k 120hz half resolution on hdr? And i don't get it VRR on works the local dimming or not?
@alexandresoares8978
@alexandresoares8978 2 жыл бұрын
Vincent... great content as usual. Would you recommend the TCL C835k over the SonyX90J? I'm on the look for a 65in TV under £1200 but am having a hard time choosing the right one. Thanks in advance
@natemekis3959
@natemekis3959 2 жыл бұрын
Vincent doesn’t answer every question. Seems that this tcl is a better bang for the buck
@evalover8622
@evalover8622 2 жыл бұрын
If u want better black,higher brightness,Anti reflection coating and wider viewing angle also bang for the buck Pick TCL If u want better upscaling and motion go for Sony X90K
@TECHOSAUR
@TECHOSAUR 2 жыл бұрын
FIRST, LIKE UR CHANNEL , you help me choose know a lot about TVs and monitors! :)
@clshortfuse_
@clshortfuse_ 2 жыл бұрын
For us in the US this is the R655 with Roku OS instead of Google OS. I'm using the 85" with 448 zones. Looks very good for daytime viewing, but obviously not as good as my LG C1 for movies. That said, high APL scenes do look great.
@iSaudixKSA
@iSaudixKSA 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. Please do a review for the C935 im really into it
@outcast6187
@outcast6187 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't show ms speed in 4k@120Hz in gamemode? When will this firmware fix for 144Hz at 4k via HDMI 2.1 coming? And are you going to test it when it comes? I can't recommend this TV to a friend who is interested until then.
@junkoenoshima834
@junkoenoshima834 2 жыл бұрын
I want to know Which one should I buy tcl c835 or u8h to play ps5
@ДмитрийКузнецов-п8ч
@ДмитрийКузнецов-п8ч 2 жыл бұрын
It is pitty that Vincent doesn't measures ANSI contrast with Local Dimming on. In real scenario LD is always on
@e21big
@e21big 2 жыл бұрын
at just 200 zones, I am not sure if this can be classified as 'mini-LED' TV though
@E96
@E96 2 жыл бұрын
Why not? Mini LED has to do with LED size not dimming zones count
@e21big
@e21big 2 жыл бұрын
@@E96 dimming zone count correleated directly to the size, and a couple of hundreads zones aren't that much more than FALD TV from a few years ago If this is a mini-LED what would you make of a monitor like Predator X27, which has is absolutely not mini-LED yet having over 300 zones dimming
@ChrisKadaver
@ChrisKadaver Жыл бұрын
Which is better, the TCL C835 vs Samsung QN95B? I just ordered a 75" Samsung QN95B for just 1000 USD since it was discounted by 70% where I live. While the TCL is slightly more expensive it does support dolby vision. But is it a better TV other than that?
@Ehrle6969
@Ehrle6969 7 ай бұрын
Qn95B negs
@vollkerball1
@vollkerball1 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, competition is needed so the consumer can have the best value for the money! it is such a shame that over 90% of buyers don´t know what or why to buy a certain TV for their home.
@TediousMonotonus
@TediousMonotonus Жыл бұрын
Could you do a video adjusting the picture settings of TCL 835, please?
@silasmurithi4706
@silasmurithi4706 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, nice video. I am wondering what's the difference between the TCL 8-series or 6-series and TCL C835 or C635. Are they the same?
@marcoaurelioauxilio278
@marcoaurelioauxilio278 Жыл бұрын
R655 usa, C835 rest of the world
@Masked_Official
@Masked_Official Жыл бұрын
I just bought a new gaming pc, with a 4080. I am after a 4k tv @ 120hz (120fps). My budget is really tight right now, so the max I could pay is about $1300 AUD. I currently have an old Sony thats 1080p @60hz. I just wanna experience high frame rate and 4k. Would this be a good purchase?
@MyGadgetsWorld
@MyGadgetsWorld 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you are covering something besides LG and cheaper models.
@HueyTheDoctor
@HueyTheDoctor Жыл бұрын
I'm buying this tomorrow. Thank you so much for validating my decision. Buyer's remorse is a bitch.
@artblockchainmakeit4928
@artblockchainmakeit4928 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for the review. Why is the r635(usa version) way cheaper then the c835 european version. Both are mini led. Its almost half the price. Is there a big differnce between the two?
@karimgeniokarim-genio5086
@karimgeniokarim-genio5086 Жыл бұрын
@HDTVTest where did you post your settings??? You used to do that with all tvs!
@domavariadam7982
@domavariadam7982 Жыл бұрын
Hi Vincent! What do you think, which tv is the better choice for movies the Hisense UH8 or TCL C832?
@chinogambino9375
@chinogambino9375 2 жыл бұрын
After the update drops itd be great to see if 444 is possible at 4k 120.
@nelsonmendes7551
@nelsonmendes7551 2 жыл бұрын
Reviewing the TCL c935 soon?
@E96
@E96 2 жыл бұрын
September
@icristian6707
@icristian6707 Жыл бұрын
Heard the 55inch models do a whining sound when displaying black images, is that true?
@gustavodutra8578
@gustavodutra8578 2 жыл бұрын
So... Should i buy this cheaper tv or still try the LG Oled C1 ?
@alejandroromito
@alejandroromito 2 жыл бұрын
If you live in the US or Europe, C1 all the way
@gustavodutra8578
@gustavodutra8578 2 жыл бұрын
@@alejandroromito South america. The tv is pretty good btw.
@alejandroromito
@alejandroromito 2 жыл бұрын
@@gustavodutra8578 oh, really?! Haha, me too. Where're you from? I'm from Argentina. That's why I've told you that. Here the C825 55" it's something like 800usd, and the C1 48" it's 1500usd...go figure 🥲
@gustavodutra8578
@gustavodutra8578 2 жыл бұрын
@@alejandroromito Yeah it is quite expensive. But it is worth it.
@nicolasgrangeonhandpanandd514
@nicolasgrangeonhandpanandd514 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, thanks for this video. I bought a Hisense VA U8QF. But I return it because horrible motion clarity with ps5. Impossible to watch a movie in 24fps without motion clarity activated. The motion blur is just horrible. And the black smearing are trully horrible. What about this TCL? What about fluidity in games, what about black smearing? Thanks
@curtis19921
@curtis19921 2 жыл бұрын
Why is LG lcd leds never mentioned??
@andreydavydov6417
@andreydavydov6417 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because LG is mostly using an IPS panels
@curtis19921
@curtis19921 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreydavydov6417 ok gotcha
@macgyvermac2344
@macgyvermac2344 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreydavydov6417 the TV calibrator doesn't like IPS panel even though it has Superior colors he just don't like it if you want to see anything about LG mini LED check out other channel they are the best when they come to LG mini LED not in Vincent
@Rattlepiece
@Rattlepiece 2 жыл бұрын
@@macgyvermac2344 IPS has terrible contrast ratio, makes it less than ideal for any scene with anything remotely black in it.
@macgyvermac2344
@macgyvermac2344 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rattlepiece because you don't like it that doesn't mean everybody else shouldn't like it
@sungjin-woo3894
@sungjin-woo3894 6 ай бұрын
When is the C805 review coming?
@rahargo1
@rahargo1 2 жыл бұрын
im on dilemma choosing 55x90k or 55c835, im wathcing netflix a lot. any suggest
@Nightwish0177
@Nightwish0177 2 жыл бұрын
tell me please, tcl c831 is it the same TV as c835? Or in fact it may be a completely different panel?
@basarakaneki3018
@basarakaneki3018 Жыл бұрын
LG C2 48" for 900$ TCL C835 55" for 700$ Idk which one should i go with. OLED is cool but the burn-in is a pain in the back C835 is also cool but idk if it's good for pc gaming
@dwinandaaldyan
@dwinandaaldyan Жыл бұрын
I have the same dilemma. What do you end up with?
@bloomerb4162
@bloomerb4162 2 жыл бұрын
Nice if you can find one with tolerable DSE.
@Omsehnji
@Omsehnji 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder when we will come to a day where tvs have more in common in performance than in differences.
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