My Response to Leffen and the Melee Community

After Leffen's several Twitter meltdowns and streams, I got a few more theories I need to share!
------------------------------------------------------
Stream Channel ► / @technicalslive
Merch ► technicals-2.c...
Patreon ► / technicals_
Twitter ► / technicals_
Anonymous Tip Line: [e-mail]
-------------------------------------------------------
‪@TKbreezy‬ response to Leffen: www.twitch.tv/...
‪@EEvisu‬ reacting to my vid: www.twitch.tv/...
‪@NotAlbino‬ reacting to my vid: • Albino Watches "The Vi...
‪@InfernoOmni‬ reports on vid: • Never Admit to This
‪@TheRealMew2king‬'s thoughts on Hax/Leffen: • Leffen, Hax, and Forgi...
‪@ernestolopezcomedy1‬ reacting to my vid: • The Leffen situation j...
-------------------------------------------------------
Panda Global's Merch: shop.panda.gg/
Hax's B0XX Controller: b0xx.com/colle...
#smashbros #melee #FreeHax

[@Vaporwarez]

it's not gucci rat 2 but it'll do

[@Technicals]

Yo it worked! I-I mean thanks OG! My soul is yours. (Gucci Rat vid next)

[@Drdoomglazer947]

I NEED GUCCI RAT 2 PLEASE IM BEGGING

[@Campbeano]

@@Drdoomglazer947hey I’m in that video

[@Solar-Blade]

Leffen is the epitome of: >gets criticized once >fucking dies

[@LARAUJO_0]

Inaccurate. He gets criticized several times and still keeps coming back

[@johnsnowden3769]

@@LARAUJO_0 At this point, I'm convinced he gets off on it.

[@bignoob24]

​@@LARAUJO_0 No he's still right, he dies then comes back like a npc spawn.

[@GrayD_Fox]

“Oh is this piss? OH NO ITS PIIIIISS”

[@TheRealMew2king]

Idk what alt right andrew tate language means but my video was primarily on forgiveness and inconsistency in the community with a bunch of different reasons for my logic. Edit - leffen said it was edited in a way that made it seem like he was talking about me+hax+technicals, but he just told me he meant it only for hax/technicals. Idk what to think rn since i guess that's possible too so imma just leave this alone

[@itsbalde5961]

hi goat.

[@vDeadbolt]

M2K, you are the GOAT for stepping in and adding your two cents. It's insane how you are the only voice of reason in the whole community.

[@queuedjar4578]

You can deflect any criticisms you get by just calling all words against you wrongthink. Everyone who watches your video understands your intent, you actually address issues instead of side step them and play victim because you're a decent person.

[@mlomeli1994]

I agree almost entirely with your points about consistency and taking the higher road. Keep being a cool guy m2k

[@Mach56gss]

Really frustrating that someone can compare M2K to someone like Tate. It’s insane and such disrespect to someone who always carries themselves with so much respect, honesty and good faith. Calling everything bad-faith conspiracy worship is exactly the sort of Qanon “everything is a conspiracy against me” nonsense we have to deal with nowadays. The entire community suffers because of this, no matter where you stand on the issue. Stand tall M2K, you are such a revered person and bring so much good to the community. Keep being you 💫

[@christheophilus7154]

crazy how Hbox was public enemy #1 for years, no one defended him and he didn't whine about it. leffen can't handle any smoke

[@mattgamer1240]

bro got booed midset and got hella death threats and stuff too hbox is a trooper

[@freedomgoddess]

juan debiedma. say his name. he's an absolute legend and he will remain as such.

[@Fishman465]

​@@mattgamer1240also had a crab thrown at him

[@nicke5801]

even crazier that leffen largely contributed to this and even put out his own youtube hit pieces on Hbox, filled with verified lies, yet he was never perma banned. curious

[@TurbopropPuppy]

@@Fishman465 ok but that's kinda cool tho, what an anecdote

[@fullmetalbleachnote]

Tech, are you aware of the situation regarding Melee player Fortune taking his own life back in 2022? I think the Smash Communities' tendency to define players forever by their greatest mistake is one of its worst attributes. I hate that nobody with influence in the scene has even started a discussion about what happened to Fortune for playing the game in a way they didn't like. No one wants to acknowledge what happened, (I've seen a disturbing number of people celebrate what Fortune did and turn it into a meme) No one wants to prevent behavior like this and they continue to damn players for life if their mistake is great enough. There are disturbing parallels to Haxs' situation right now as he, too, has been defined for life by the community for his youtube video. I don't want Hax to do what Fortune did, but if it comes to that, is the melee community going to dodge the conversation of forgiveness yet again? Unfortunately I have to say yes.

[@Technicals]

No this is actually the first I’m hearing about it. Can you send me the info to my tip line? It’s where I organize possible topics. [e-mail]

[@fullmetalbleachnote]

@@Technicals Done I've emailed you everything that I know.

[@bigtoblerone8446]

Damn that's heavy 0_0

[@KiingKai91]

Yo what? The dude who unplugged his own controller during a match and wanted his opponent who paused for him to take a stock as a joke? I forgot what video but Zain said he was like the nicest person or something.

[@sexswag]

I havent heard anything about this but the thought this continues to happen is terrifying to me, I hope this gets covered as well

[@d0nth3whal3]

Leffen saying M2k uses “Andrew Tate” language is actually insanity. I wouldn’t be surprised if M2k doesn’t know who Andrew Tate is

[@incidentlyaniguana2193]

I'm just picturing M2K in a Bugatti on his grindset now lmao.

[@Bonovasitch]

The other insane implication there is that he apparently thinks M2K's authenticity and forgiveness are comparable to Andrew Tate's brand of hypermasculinity, which probably says even more about how morally bankrupt Leffen is

[@yungmuney5903]

And what makes you think Hax after his balls deep into Dark triad psychology shit would respect someone like Andrew Tate in ANY way?

[@raghavpatel720]

@@incidentlyaniguana2193 Mew2King in a Bugatti with shades would be funny as shit 🤣🤣🤣

[@peeron6829]

what skin is your bugatti

[@Fr3ak_MM8BDM]

Leffen's deathly allergy to being even a half-decent person is so beautiful you could sell it as art

[@Sly_Maverick_31]

Beautifully worded.

[@juannaym8488]

I don't know how a person can refuse this vehemently to just self reflect once

[@dal4268]

So much that he has acne all over his face even into his 30s

[@Fr3ak_MM8BDM]

@@dal4268 When you're a genuinely despicable person with a zero redeemable personality traits, it always finds a way to physically manifest on you

[@evriXO]

Algo comment 😢

[@LILHOTN]

The famous actor we once knew is looking paranoid and now spiraling

[@thefranChise1]

You moving just like a degenerate, every antic is feeling distasteful

[@CinePresto]

Don’t speak no lies about me and I won’t tell no truths about you

[@Birdman957]

You're moving just like a degenerate, every antic is feeling distasteful I calculate you're not as calculated, I can even predict your angle.

[@DistantKingdom]

the brief ESAM cameo was oddly nostalgic 😆

[@rev0lve638]

We’re going boxing ring with this one!

[@GongTheHawkeye]

The entire Melee community's actually scared to death of the robot bartender from Coffeezilla. 😂

[@rorycannon7295]

HOLY SHIT IT IS HIM

[@OdaSwifteye]

Wait hold on, Technicals is the robot bartender? I thought that was Cofeezilla under a filter.

[@MASrose8]

Ain't no way

[@Daihuu]

hooooly shit I NEVER PUT 2 AND 2 TOGETHER

[@amberhernandez]

I only figured it out after reading the description on Coffee's latest. Glad to see Tech is flexing those vocal cords!

[@WriteSound]

They say they hate you , they say to ignore you , they say anything you say is invalid… But they always tune in.

[@daserfomalhaut9809]

"Cucking over a black man on the Internet relentlessly!!"

[@shady8045]

I love how he implied Mew2king was using "andrew tate alt right language" when like... do I even need to say anything to that?

[@094176]

Straight up making a moral judgement cause the guy has a non standard way of speaking

[@Zimx02]

No, because he's not talking about M2k specifically, dumbass. He's talking about the other two with that one specific example. lmao

[@legendarywiimaster]

What the hell does that mean?

[@HotFootBunny]

@@Zimx02 he literally brought up Technicals and then Mewtwo king wtf are you talking about

[@shady8045]

@@legendarywiimaster idk ask leffen he’s the dipshit who said it in the first place

[@WestOfLee100]

what the fuck is going on with the smash community man. Where is the sportsmanship? Where is the glory? This was supposed to exist due to the love of the game.

[@TonguelessDanny]

This is what happens when you dont gatekeep your community well enough and characters like Leffen seep in

[@Whitesnake273]

This is what happens when there's no age divisions in tournaments or any organization whatsoever

[@moonwarrior3342]

You expect a manchild fandom as Smash to have any of those quirks? lol

[@Outwardpd]

Smash community is filled with cowards who won't take a proper stance against Leffen.

[@WestOfLee100]

@@moonwarrior3342 i expected what i expected from the FGC.

[@elmonke6154]

1:03 I don't even follow this drama but just throwing M2k under the bus like that by calling him le andrew tate alt righter to protect yourself after spreading false allegations of rape about him that caused him to reveal extremely personal information to disprove, only for him to completely forgive you, is the most scummy shit. M2K's video wasn't even critical of Leffen, he just said that he forgave him and that Hax should be forgiven too. He also said that multiple people have done worse to him in the community than Hax to Leffen and the ban is inconsistent. The most negative thing he said about Leffen was that Leffen did something he had to forgive. It was an incredibly positive video.

[@howisthis8849]

m2k is an actual saint holy shit

[@andrewferguson6901]

​@@howisthis8849 m2k really is about that Jesus shiiii

[@Zero-rj6re]

​@@andrewferguson6901 Well yeah m2k is an actual good person and out of the entire pro player scene has been hurt more times. Losing all the people he thought were "friends".

[@wakapout630]

I love that by responding he's just giving you more ammo hence money. Dude cannot let it go nor apologize it's crazy.

[@Popmycherryyo]

Cant apologize, cus that would mean he has to admit he is wrong. Which would, 100%, be the first time (at least in the public eye) but hell, I'm sure he wouldn't apologize to his parents or siblings (if he has any?) when he was younger either. Super like lonely child, spoiled brat behaviour. Also maidenless behaviour. I'm ashamed of living in the nextdoor country of his homeland.

[@markusbonnet439]

Why does everyone in this comment section care so much , social media is a scourge

[@Popmycherryyo]

@@markusbonnet439 If only mr Hjelte would've kept this to JUST social media :P That is why we care. It's like asking "why do so many people care that men keep on sending women sexual DMs 24/7? It's just on social media?"

[@desmondwarren9358]

@@markusbonnet439that’s what I mean it’s quite literally a hate campaign something they literally are mad at leffen for doing. I truly don’t get it. Can we got back to just playing video games.

[@naxo2966]

@@desmondwarren9358 read response above

[@Jon62491]

Armada saw it coming.

[@JustSomeDinosaurPerson]

Dude's an oracle.

[@TylerHyperFace]

100,000%

[@josiahmacfarlane4344]

How did he see it coming? I believe you, but what did Armada say?

[@alucardSSBM]

@@josiahmacfarlane4344 Back in the early 2010s Armada was the lead advocate for banning Leffen for a couple of years due to his unsportsmanlike conduct, which subsequently got Leffen banned from a majority of all major EU SSBM tournaments.

[@Ssethtzeentach_enjoyer]

​@@josiahmacfarlane4344Armada was the one behind the decision to ban Leffen from the Swedish scene.

[@kusaribruh]

i edged to this

[@NoctisX21]

I goon to seek Nirvana

[@pantsumonster]

Edge your way into church young man.

[@NoctisX21]

@@pantsumonster only if they #FREEHAX

[@aryaakula4614]

@@pantsumonster do they offer free skibidi toilet

[@wolfen8622]

“I *edged* to this”????? My man, is ok when I start using that too? 😂

[@ReedoTV]

Leffen: "If Twitter doesn't implement a ratio limit, I'm quitting"

[@LunaGropeAnnelotte]

Its heartwarming to see Leffen address us as "y'all" in a post that is mocking us. He has grown so much since the old days😢

[@trevorpearlharbor5171]

It's unreal. The Smash community never ceases to disgust me. So many pros and TOs completely meat-riding one of the most toxic players in the community just because he's good at Smash. They're willing to tone down his actions and call the one person with the balls to call him out a clout chaser. The Smash community should be thanking Tech, because without him, their community would be full of liars, back-stabbers, hypocrites, and sex pests with no one to call them out.

[@peeron6829]

i watch melee content here and there for like 6 years now (only some events and sets) and i honestly dont know sht about whats going on i just like watching good people play the game.😭 i knew the reputation the community got is pretty bad tho and i heard some stories here and there. idk if i should dive into and learn about the drama😂 probably not it would ruin the fun watching a bit always knew leffen was an ahole tho and what he did to m2k 1 or 2 years ago (i think? you know what i mean) was more than scummy. this man got no morals and dignity

[@fronhank]

​@@peeron6829 honestly it's like getting into any drama. Ultimately meaningless to your life but serves as entertaining yet depressing slop that turns people into cultists on either "side". You're not really missing out. Just play and watch the game if you enjoy it, it's not really important in the grand scheme of things

[@arosbastion7052]

almost like people need to get over mean words and just start playing better so they can beat him lmao

[@netnooker]

Its in their best interest to keep Leffen around, love him or hate him, he brings in views. Thats what it comes down to.

[@daniel1122345]

I don’t get it. There are better players. Leffen has never been #1 in the world, he plays the most over played character and personally I think his super optimal play style is very boring to watch. Other players such as hax play quite similar. He could quit forever and it wouldnt leave a void. I gave up on melee because of their dick riding of leffen, and overall victim blaming in so many situations. It’s a sad pathetic community

[@spirenguard]

Using that ESAM meme at 2:30 is pure kino

[@lucg4005]

2:23 is the actual timestamp. Just for anyone curious, because you don’t wanna miss it.

[@jaysefgames1155]

Esam when you go boxing ring

[@marthsinclair3796]

When I'm in a crybully competition and my opponent is Leffen

[@newjumpcityjosh9333]

Leffen learned from Zionist the art of crybullyism

[@peeron6829]

i would ragequit. eh cryquit

[@emperorlokire7648]

You just get banned.

[@neoentertainment4957]

​@@peeron6829just compete at 59.99 fps. Leffen will quit immediately

[@DoubleMallow]

I tried my best to give him benefit of the doubt about stuff until I actually had my first interaction with him when he first started getting into traditional fighters. I came to stream and told him it was inspiring to see a figurehead/player from the smash community take up playing fighting games and "maybe ya girl could too." He called me an attention-seeking bitch because I pointed out I was a girl. This from the guy that was a !hero from the women-empowering MeToo movement. He has "nice guy" syndrome and a lot of the communities he has tried to stay on the good side of are just getting progressively more tired of his bullshit.

[@ASwordfish]

did you get a clip of it?

[@nickh4676]

I bought a Summit poster signed by the top melee players and it was costly. Armada, Mang0, Leffen, HBOX, etc. I asked Leffen on stream that if I sent it to him, if he could also put a small note on it. If he agrees? Super cool, he was my favorite to watch. If he said sorry man, he’s busy, alright, I’ll understand. Leffen said “what’s in it for me?” And that’s what bummed me out from him. I then asked Armada the same thing and he said sure with no issues. I sent it to him long distance. Sadly, I never did get the note due to the long shipping timeframe, him forgetting why he got it, myself forgetting about following up consistently, and a slow back and forth in private over a few months. That was a fail but at least Armada tried. Leffen was an immediate shutdown lol. Btw, I don’t remember what the sig was but all their signatures were pretty rough but Leffen was lazy as hell.

[@DoubleMallow]

@@ASwordfish I wish I had. I had barely ever used twitch and at the time basically went out of my way to find out when he was streaming again to tell him that I thought it was... kind of inspirational in a dumb way. Then that happened and I never visited his stream again. For some reason I had kind of been developing a bit of a crush on him, but it was just dumb "girl likes asshole edgelord"-syndrome I guess. Glad I wasn't around stream for long.

[@TwigTrig]

@@DoubleMallow Sorry that you had to experience him, if that experience had gotten you to just lose all faith on the smash scene i wouldn't have even blamed you cause the guy shouldn't be allowed outside a mental ward

[@DoubleMallow]

​@@TwigTrig honestly just hope he never shows up at a Rivals 2 event I never want to see that asshole in my community.

[@loljk1769]

A Leffen video without a diss track? My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[@MicrowavedFurby]

I love how his response to criticism is essentially always: they're just haters. Let's be real, it's not like he'd be able to defend himself anyways.

[@devildeer292]

Side note: If my daughter brought home a guy and he told me his occupation was “Financial Consultant For Smash Bros”, I’d show him the door like Uncle Phil does Jazz.

[@peeron6829]

pls have a serious talk with your daughter after aswell

[@KBird204]

Goated reference

[@thefranChise1]

yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[@GyatRizzler69-of3wl]

You’re mentally ill

[@markee3738]

bro what the fuck were you talking about in that discord clip

[@nJudas]

Just got done watching your most recent vid. Legend

[@paulflemister4737]

Yo Fran!

[@Ssethtzeentach_enjoyer]

Why is the translation longer than the original?

[@timmer919hep]

If Leffen were a pokemon, his elemental weakness would be "being a decent person" and literally everything you do deals a crit to him.

[@peeron6829]

if Leffen were a pokemon he would be a little toxic type weedle

[@peeron6829]

or a Rattata

[@christopherokagawa5499]

​@peeron6829 Don't compare that trash to Rattata, lol.

[@isthatsquid]

This is NOT a Fight Knight video but I'll stay just for you

[@DipsticksOfficial]

Leffen saying you don't have talent is beautiful. The amount of effort you put into writing, editing, researching, and literally saving people who have been wrongfully accused is unfathomable to him. Meanwhile, he's good at a few video games, has never said a single humorous statement on video, and cannot stop himself from making people miserable in order to maintain his ego.

[@Moon-nk3co]

This man single-handedly keeps the Smash Community in check man better than the whole community

[@Popmycherryyo]

Prolly not the whole, but most, for sure! Never stop, technicals, never stop

[@YyNRCyY]

It’s weird how people who run tournaments and commentators are like “oh that’s just leffen being leffen * insert laugh track. When in reality, he is genuinely a pos and should actually be ostracized from the scene.

[@Justpassingby204]

Because they’re pussies and their sponsors will drop them if they say bad words

[@burgarn]

It amazes me that this shit is still going on! 🙈 One could argue that I used to be the leader of the Swedish community and I definitely saw it as my job to keep the European community at large in check. ✅ I gave up on that mission well over a decade ago, seeing as people rather stood behind a sadistic narcissistic psychopath, than support or stand behind those whom he diligently harassed and abused. It seems evident that things haven't changed much since then... One could hope people would've grown up enough to realize that supporting people who lack empathy, compassion and show no remorse for the harm they conflict upon others was or isn't the right thing to do by now... but then again, we are talking about people playing the same game for decades, so maybe growing up and maturing shouldn't be expected of most people in this community... "Wisdom has been chasing you, but you've always been faster." /C, aka "the guy who Zen slapped Leffen"

[@xZaGoNx]

I used to love the smash community before it turned into a cannibalizing community. It’s turned into a competition to virtue signal and ruin peoples lives without evidence based on hive-mind twitter opinions. Those who are capable of critical thinking, are afraid to speak. They need a complete overhaul of community leaders and TOs.

[@DIVAD291]

It all starts when you stop gatekeeping and focus on "growing" the community instead.

[@jessISaRicePrincess]

There are good people in smash but man it impressively toxic in there and i am a internet veteran

[@dezz_95]

Hahaha free hax here’s 50$

[@nineengine]

Something I've noticed is extremely common in the twitter discourse on all this is that people love to try to discredit the people that disagree with them in whatever way they can, whether logical or not, rather than argue on any actual points, or evidence. The amount of times in those threads I've seen some random (or Leffen, for that matter), be like "oh this guy fucks with tech/zero/ee" or anyone else the community has vilified as some kind of trump card "i win, you lose" type bullshit is astounding.

[@SkuIIKn1ght]

Yeah sadly that is pretty common in internet discourse in general, people get tribal and just spam buzzwords these days, actually logic and critical thinking is hard to come by.

[@RefreshingMirage]

The fit is fire, in other news, Leffen won’t go Boxing Ring

[@Bonovasitch]

We all wanna see Leffen actually get decked in the face, but we all know he'd get folded by his sweat towel before he even made it anywhere near the ring

[@RandomGreenKirb]

Leffen cannot take a single bit of criticism holy crap

[@Kool212]

The communities enable him.

[@xelementalsupreme9308]

I would fucking cheer if Leffen becomes recognised as a lolcow, cause that means he fully completed his twink bleached LTG arc

[@TheeMFGr0uch]

Tech already got the chart out. Far as I'm concerned he's the smash communities first lolcow

[@sonicphoenix7]

twink dsp because hes not even entertaining to watch

[@JeamineBret]

​@@TheeMFGr0uch Inui was fucking wild and might be a bit of a lolcow if the drug problems weren't so sad. From the aforementioned drug use, getting his ass kicked by Ryan Ford, and slashing a dude with a sword, he was no stranger to controversy.

[@DeFyYing]

I'll echo what Tech said in his last vid: less vanilla LTG, more twink DSP. LTG is a horrible human being but at least he's entertaining and genuinely funny.

[@NPC-vq3cl]

@@DeFyYing ltg is a groomer

[@dr.cornwater2886]

As a casual outsider to the community, Leffen just comes off as an actual child no matter the context I see him in. He's a fucking cry bully who dictates the environment around him bc of the clout he has. It breaks my heart as someone who also suffers from bipolar to see Hax go through psychosis, but to continue to punish him for it after he's already gotten help and admitted his wrongs makes my stomach hurt. Leave Hax alone and let him play games again. Kick Leffen out and bring peace to the community.

[@Jeanyawezm]

My favorite part about Leffen is how he says that working at McDonald's is better but he hasn't gotten a job at one cuz he knows he's capping out of his ass

[@snowstorm5867]

This community is just rotted beyond repair, the only way to save it is a hard reset man

[@queuedjar4578]

I start to understand where accelerationists have a point. How do I accidentally catch an online community on fire and claim the insurance money in the ashes again?

[@OffMetaGang]

Oh man. What does that even look like? I hear that alot, but what does that really mean?

[@Justpassingby204]

The only way to fix it is to leave it. That’s what I did many moons ago-worked like a charm

[@queuedjar4578]

@@OffMetaGang cancel and ban enough top players and the players themselves that people get tired and just not show up at tournaments, or they go and make their own tournaments outside of the ones strongholded by terminally online smash twitter.

[@dontpanic4786]

" As the kids say" Dude literally looks like a 15 year old kid.

[@neoentertainment4957]

He cries like one too

[@SrCarlo20]

"It's not just a phase, mom" ahh looking haricut

[@leaffinite2001]

This whole thing will continue until leffen hits 40 and goes bald, immediately loaing all his fans

[@neoentertainment4957]

@leaffinite2001 I just realized leffen and leafy have a lot in common

[@shun8104]

The good thing about the smash community is that it helps me cope with the fact that an official Nintendo partnership won't ever happen. I don't wanna imagine these ego-tripping manchildren getting any more power or influence, especially not one backed by the official publisher. This community is so cooked.

[@jodiexalazar2]

He's a year away from 30. He's not as young as the comments in the video assume. This is a grown ass man child

[@joed873]

The fact that you are calling out almost all the people I've had issues with during my 2014-Present melee career is extremely satisfying. I love you Technicals.

[@jimbobuz]

12:36 scared tf out of me lmao

[@DoomBowser64]

😂

[@ToaEnemis]

Q anon theory: there is a secret kabal and pedos in power Smash community: *sweats*

[@chonglers1513]

Sick pic bro

[@DANCERcow]

Are they wrong though lol I love that people are so adamant that governments and people in power couldn't possibly be as deranged and depraved as some of us might believe lol.

[@leaffinite2001]

Well the thing is theres a pretty huge jump from "ppl in power are probably abusing it behind the scenes/lots of famous ppl are pedos" and "all famous people (except our savior christ figure trump-chan) are constantly eating baby foreskins to stay youthful"

[@NeoDeity]

"My dad blew his back out..." Pause that was crazy!

[@smugs7921]

more reasons to just ignore leffen's existence he is just another low tier god in my eyes, a waste of air

[@unclegrimsley839]

Straight Techmaxxing in this video, we’re FazeLinking all over this place yuh yuh

[@newjumpcityjosh9333]

I am getting old for sure 😅

[@wontonschannel]

13:10 finally someone says it. like, genuinely, when was the last time a death threat actually lead to a substantial event afterwards? but we still treat it like it's a gunshot wound, it's ridiculous.

[@bigboy2217]

Honestly I’m not even mad about leffen anymore. I’m disgusted that nearly every person in a position of power in the smash community is so flagrantly throwing hax under the bus STILL. This might be the single biggest melee fan ever. Hax has gone to lengths other tops players wouldn’t dream of to play this game. The man reinvented how to play a top tier in the game, he reinvented the controller out of the game, he’s given us countless incredible and funny moments. This is him, this is John Melee. And all these evil losers are too spineless to go against the crowd just to defend somebody who deserves it more than any of them.

[@kamaalx]

Technicals to me just sounds like hes tired and fed up with the bullshit.

[@psychokinesis878]

Aren't we all?

[@kamaalx]

@@psychokinesis878 Amen.

[@RandomBot-k7w]

Smash community will never change for the better unfortunately.... 😔

[@kamaalx]

@user-xu9jx5qn2v Thats the one thing that I hate whenever I become a pro player. Is the freaking community. Its not even just smash, its brawlhalla, its the whole FGC bruh...

[@nolanstone4723]

How has Leffen even survived this long publicly? I'm shocked he hasn't slowly faded into obscurity.

[@OffMetaGang]

Cause he has been hiding in the melee community.......

[@fronhank]

Literally because he's extremely good at a few games

[@RamzaBeoulves]

Can't fall into obscurity when people keep bringing him up :/

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

@@nolanstone4723 Stirring up drama that's how

[@vDeadbolt]

Because he presses buttons good. Which is ironic because the community has been harping on the fact that we shouldn't let people get away with stuff cause they "press buttons good", yet meanwhile they let Nairo and Leffen run amok.

[@davidvkimball]

Leff blocked me on Twitter too and I have no idea why.

[@RandomBot-k7w]

Congratulations to both you and your wife having a child soon. :)

[@davidvkimball]

@@RandomBot-k7w thank you!

[@Invictissimi]

Hey David. Don't be surprised if TheCheat, WillyP, chromeohnine, or pretty much anyone who condones Leffen's actions have blocked you as well. They make themselves too easy to spot for well-deserved mockery. Also, I heard you're becoming a dad soon, congrats.

[@davidvkimball]

@@Invictissimi thanks, I am! My wife and I are excited. Regarding being blocked - that's OK. I believe I am already by a few of them but it doesn't bother me.

[@lasagnahog7695]

The thing where Leffen tries to frame the people he doesn't like as "like the far-right" is weird and also makes me mad. He's such a dingle-berry.

[@baileyayyy5085]

tos acting like they can police the melee community is hilarious I can literally just put up a small prize pool and post on some forums and get like 30 people to show up at my house

[@ln8496]

Extremely vile to accuse m2k of being alt right The video was literally “i forgive leffen for sexually harassing me.” How tf is that right wing in the slightest

[@d5ltatune]

As a trans person, the “misgendering” points they make are completely flooring me with how pathetic people can be. Have people forgotten ‘they’re is just a neutral term that most people default to??? I was thinking about going into the melee scene, but now I’m concerned-

[@jayden-hansen2006]

Leffen is the type of guy to rage quit showering if the water is too cold.

[@GrayD_Fox]

it looks like he does anyway

[@thephilosopher4058]

I fail to see how your credibility is in question, when you go for interviews, site your sources, and really do your homework. It's the main reason I watch your videos. The baseline amount of facts and effort are so evident, that I feel anyone with their own free thought, can see all the dirt under the rug within the community.

[@dannysummers4591]

also ironic that those criticisms come from a community with such blatant corruption, making even a third world dictatorship look competent

[@thephilosopher4058]

@@dannysummers4591 Just feels like they want people to smash their head into a wall until it makes sense.

[@casualcrusader1547]

AINT NO WAY HE ACCUSED YOU OF BEING AN ALT-RIGHT TATE DUDE 😭😭😭😭

[@Shlankyman545]

It’s the easiest way to get the very clearly left-leaning smash fanbase to hate anyone. Just associate them with certain names and the vitriol will fly.

[@Cannelle-bo3nx]

It's a wonder no one ever AT LEAST decked this guy before. Bro's built and was always built like a twig, yet bullied everyone in the Smash community (for what, a good decade and some more now ? Not to mention he always did this in public) and somehow got away with it. Some people are definitely (and I mean DEFINITELY) more lucky than others. Guess he sucked a lot of TOs behind the scenes to help himself stay fortunate. That being said, what's not a wonder is why everybody clowns on the Smash community. Not only nobody among you guys did anything to Leffen (beyond what, slaps ?), he still plays to this day because y'all keep supporting him 🤢🤮

[@dannysummers4591]

Look what they did to Hax just for criticizing him, decking him would just open up a lawsuit and make him into an even bigger martyr

[@Cannelle-bo3nx]

@@dannysummers4591 You're probably right sadly

[@Plumbly]

he actually released this on my day off like i instructed

[@thekirbyfighter2724]

Technicals is the exact opposite of leffen

[@nexycs2478]

You’ve been shining a light on the asscrack of this community for years. I stopped playing smash years ago but I still watch your videos just because they’re that good.

[@brett1908]

The issue with this whole situation is that leffen will face no repercussions. The people part of the community that leffen needs to be held accountable by, are just as guilty of the same stuff he is and enabling it to happen for so long. If the people in the melee community responsible for disciplinary action act the same way as the people deserving of their discipline, then things are clearly not handled with equal expectation of behaviour from people within the community, depending on how well liked they are/their stature in the community. Which opens up room for injustices to happen based off bias in the community like what’s happened to hax.

[@OffMetaGang]

He never does.

[@corgitoergosum8400]

8:27 Ironically Hikaru Nakamura and Leffen are extremely similar for a number of reasons lol.

[@Parthian6]

Yeah that's just about the most accurate comparison they could've picked lmao. Literally a dude who everybody in the chess scene hates because of his toxic outbreaks, fake ass streamer façade, attempts to cancel other streamers for his own benefit, massive ego, and that one fight video where ge tries some pathetic ass karate against another grandmaster and instantly gets put in a headlock. Imagine if Technicals actually chessboxed Leffen... Then the comparison would actually be perfect.

[@corgitoergosum8400]

​@@Parthian6 The only difference is that dudes don't kiss Hikaru's ass anywhere near as much as Leffen. But still yeah, loads of parallels. ​

[@ladian5475]

I'm no fan of Technicals but I can acknowledge when he has a point. I don't know why all these people are hellbent on dying on the hill that Hax should be banned. He should not be banned.

[@DXRKMDE_TEKKEN]

why not

[@Outwardpd]

So glad Technicals brought up the scapegoat that everyone is using lately. Even large organizations do it, just claim you or someone close by are receiving death threats and boom suddenly people can't criticize you. It is so obvious how often this gets abused. It isn't that those threats shouldn't be taken seriously, they should be, but when people abuse it like this it takes legitimacy away from when it is actually happening.

[@alecrutz956]

I see it all the time. Someone getting called out for poor behavior? suddenly death threats magically spawn out of the ether.

[@horatio8208]

Thanks, Tech. Ludwig is one of those few bastards that has gotten away with a lot of shit in recent times, so I appreciate the call out.

[@rohanshah7559]

Ludwig virtue signals a lot too. His delivery is very high handed and arrogant, it gets tough to listen to at times

[@gayanimal7365]

0 views in 3 seconds bro fell off

[@Smokerkun]

it's joever

[@youdontknowme3935]

3 videos in 35 .... algorithm straight up lackin

[@Ssethtzeentach_enjoyer]

Nice handle.

[@markee3738]

flagged for blatantly promoting qanon conspiracy theories. i'm disappointed in you mr. technicals. do better next time

[@darthschradergg]

2:24 "well that didn't age quite so well."

[@LucidMakesVideos]

8:48 MOM LOOK! I MADE IT! Good shit, Tech, as always :)

[@kyperactive]

The savetf2 goofball! Welcome!

[@zod4365]

I want that Ludwig vs. Panda Global video next. Spare no one, MoistCrit, and Maximilian Dood should catch a stray. They were also spreading false information. (Max also did a twitch rivals tournament with the recently sponsorless Panda players; Justin Wong and Punk.) Lol, the irony of being a catalyst in them losing their sponsor, and then having them as participants in his tourney.

[@detestable_one]

I need context, what did Max/Charlie do/say?

[@ryanlambert4391]

Wait what happened??

[@zod4365]

@detestable_one context is in the post. They ran with the lies Ludwig and VGBOOTCAMP spread about Panda Global. They chose to blindly believe Ludwig and VGBOOTCAMP versus investigating. In doing so, I think indirectly, they used their influence to burn that company. They participated in a witch hunt, and after Tech AND others exposed that, they never made a retraction. This is why I included the irony by Maximilian (which is hilarious AND ridiculous).

[@FadedJay420]

​@@detestable_one Moist made a video insinuating that the reason the Panda Cup smash word tour was cancelled due to the fact of Nintendo. When in actuality Panda org broke Nintendos terms of advertising the event before getting a license and Security at events were not up to Nintendo's standards. Keep in mind during a top 8 event there was no security at the entrance so anybody can just go inside and do alot of horrible stuff. But these smash kiddies always blame Nintendo even though Nintendo were actually very helpful with Panda

[@Zerogoku]

​@FadedJay420 I think you got it mixed up. Smash world tour and panda cup are 2 different things. SWT is VG bootcamp I think. They are the ones who messed it up for everyone. Sad part it took years for Panda cup to get the cosign from Nintendo. SWT blamed them and everyone kinda jumped PG. Alot of people lost jobs and money because of that. It's messed up how that went down.

[@ds2561]

Again to reiterate Leffen is almost 30 yrs old

[@bjinmarolo5597]

Technicals vs Leffen boxing match when???

[@Technicals]

NOW

[@shroomielulz]

I will never forget how Leffen nearly ruined M2K's reputation spreading false allegations. The dude has been an asshole for over a decade yet the Melee community doesn't give a shit because he's a pro player and eat up his bs.

[@ricardoge96]

Technicals the antihero that came to put order into this chaos of a community

[@gs4011]

3:20 Albino jumpscare

[@RevenantNeverDies]

Yes I saw him on stream looking at the vid and he said he was in the video multiple times so i checked it out

[@sinphy]

leffen was the kid who said they weren't playing after getting caught in tag

[@Canadiansamurai]

Leffen is the Leafy of smash. He can dish out the insults, but can't take them himself.

[@zacharymacaroni7649]

you're watching the leafy of smash wake up

[@zoedutch5143]

God Bless Mew2king🙏🏽

[@KINGth3GReaT1]

wait a second...so whats gon happen if hax pulls up to an event he's "banned" at? what pull do these "ban lists" actually have?

[@Jesus-hu4lq]

Got to see hax take on hbox at sfactor yesterday so leffen must be mad if he saw hax at grand finals

[@snoww9807]

I’m not a part of the smash community but I’m very confused this is the hill they continue to die on. It seems pretty straightforward

[@BogChild]

Finally we can hear Technicals' true thoughts on these matters for the first time

[@CHICKENMCMAZINGLICKEN]

Leffen got that platinum victim card with unlimited uses.

[@JustSomeDinosaurPerson]

Also, I have to say it, but I have been around in the online portion of the smash scene for a while now. I crawled all over smashboards and witnessed a lot of dumbass drama that nowadays would make people's headspin that back then people just brushed off and forgot about. And you'd be surprised how much of that involves current heads in the scene who have a stake in maintaining the reins of this sinking ship. But even after all of that, what is being done to Hax is still among the most wild things I think I have witnessed in the smash scene. The smash scene has genuinely taken everything away from this man, dehumanized him and treated him like he is some kind of wild animal (that they ironically themselves cornered) and are all surprised that his mental health has spiraled. It is insane to me. They drove him to this and are now playing victims like "oh well we can't have him around, he could be a danger to people at events". Or the even worse fake supporter types who are disguising their own discomfort and intolerance of Hax as "just having his best interests in mind". These people genuinely run around on every social media platform saying "what's best for Hax right now is to seek help and get away from Melee altogether", when in reality what they really mean to say is "I am not personally comfortable with Hax being in the scene and my personal feelings matter more". That's what they really mean, and y'know what that ironically is? BEING BIGOTED. You couldn't write a more insane clown show than the modern smash scene and how it has treated Hax, I swear.

[@1NameGoesHere]

I don't know if bigoted is the right word, but that's the crazy part. Anytime something crazy happens within the community, there once was the curious question of "Oh no, how could this have happened?" Then you look into the community's behaviour and the answer becomes clear: The community is the primary cause to a lot of their woes. When a lot of allegations came out, at first, it was a complete shook, but the more you look into how things were run, you start to realise that a lot of this behaviour was cultivated by the community itself simply because they refused to grow up. Like...underage drinking isn't a problem because "haven't y'all been to high school before"...until people decide to have drunk sex. Age doesn't matter because we're all smashers and we just love the game...until minors are sleeping with adults. "Fuck Nintendo, we're fine without them, especially once they kept away from us"...until money and developer/publisher support is desperately needed, but also, what's professionalism? Now, I'm sure there are a lot of good in the community, and this does not excuse the behaviour of (mostly) those excommunicado, but once you realise they came from a community full of kids and grown adults still living in high school or the degen life, you start to understand why these things happened, and it's why some lean to forgiveness instead of ostracizing them and then some. It's even more strange when those doing the ostracizing tend to be just as guilty.

[@dragnjames2190]

​@@1NameGoesHereHit the nail on the head right there. Especially with their whole "We don't NEED Nintendo! We're fine by ourselves! / Actually please Nintendo, throw us a bone! We need the money!" It's a revolving door of bullshit. And because this community refuses to grow up and change for the better, it's gonna keep happening.

[@SolidLoach]

Technicals would absolutely demolish Leffen in the ring. Hit him with the gentleman and get him tf outta here!

[@Coswalker27]

22:52 I was not ready for the white girl voice.

[@dr.hasdan]

Leffens aura is in the minuses man.

[@iseegreen5297]

NEGATIVE INFINITY AURA!!!!!!!!!!!

[@CAKE0011110000110011]

leffen would find every excuses to never change his ways and behaviors

[@jtshmo]

Tech gathering FGC figureheads like the avengers at this point

[@tmod3266]

My name is Timothy and holy hell 3:39 scared the Jesus out of me.😂

[@kite8926]

What the actually fuck happened to the Smash community in the last few 3 years man..Did COVID turn everyone thermally ill online users.. wth.. SMASH IS A 23 YR OLD GAME. Jesus... People really need to grow up and stop playing around with someone feelings like Smash competitive because like... Nintendo already telling half of the players to essentially "fuck off" from our game. Leffen is about to become DSP or shitty LTG.. The situation needs to put to a complete stop... fr

[@minixlemonade2335]

It's all Twitter man. It's been like this since 2015 at least. Maybe 2012. Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit...all those websites ruined people's brains.

[@Shlankyman545]

All the lefties

[@dudevinci]

shout outs to tekken community for booting leffen out

[@bongschwee103]

The only point thats a LITTLE iffy is the SD thing. its actually really not that uncommon at all for pros to give up a game in a set if they are losing and just go next, especially in the RTS genre. That being said, most of the people doing that arent whiny bitches who moan all day on twitter and pick fights with people

[@starfox300]

Leffen does it at the end of the set

[@TheeMFGr0uch]

Only game I've ever seen that matter is MVC2 and that's because teams can hinge on a single character being alive or the odds are so stacked that you're prolonging a guaranteed loss. Super meter, HP, characters - everything could be going the opponents way and they have no way to close the game out. Melee is a 1v1 fighter with no assists or items to speak of, and reverse sweeps are common enough that we have a whole ass term that describes it. Combine that with the fact that leff only plays Fox and is considered to be one of the best at it, he has no fuggin excuse to just sd and rob other players and especially the spectators the chance to finish up the round. This is the same dude that claims to be the best fighting player around ever to live, but refuses to pay anything that isn't already S-tier. And if that gets nerfed he moves onto whatever is currently s-tier. I'm not saying that he is a terrible person JUST for sding, that would be hyperbolic and stupid. Buuuuttt, his shit attitude and sportsmanship are close cousins. He's not a shit person cause he quits, he quits cause he's a shitty person.

[@queuedjar4578]

It's generally bad sportsmanship to not at least game out to the end of a set. Some pros strategically do it mid set to try to curb momentum but Leffen has a history of doing it last game when he's very obviously tilted.

[@bongschwee103]

@@queuedjar4578 i personally see no problem with it. In reality, the only person it detriments is yourself.

[@queuedjar4578]

@@bongschwee103 That is true but I think technicals only really showed it to prove a point that Leffen quits out when anything gets marginally difficult.

[@dovesr0478]

I'm just glad to see the tide finally turning in the direction of freeing Hax instead of people clowning on him for mental illness and substance addiction.

[@ShakinJamacian]

I'm not in the Smash community but I follow it at a distance, and I have to say, I was not prepared to the "I'm homeless" remark. Nearly spat my drink all over my computer screen. Jesus Christ what a dig.