Why I get NO POST with XMP??? 👉 ULTIMATE RAM + XMP Guide

[@bronsondixon4747]

This channel is top tier. Deserves way more subs / recognition.

[@theTechNotice]

so is this comment!

[@MichelleVujicic]

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[@beuman0]

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[@christos1182]

I just want to say thank you for this video! The information I attained from it is monumental when it comes to understanding how to approach RAM when building an enthusiast PC and overclocking as a whole and all of the specifics that need to be considered when choosing between speed, capacity and 2 or 4 sticks.

[@aelaan12]

I fully agree, this video should be pinned and shared. The presentation and the educational value needs to be shared.

[@MonkeyDolphin]

I remember JJ from waaaaay back, and it's always good to hear him share his knowledge. Fantastic discussion - thank you!

[@newdalss]

Been doing this for the better part of 20 years and this information still fascinated me. There was good information in here that I dont recall ever learning even in school

[@stevecallender8770]

I was just about to buy parts for my first build - this was the perfect course on what to look for and more importantly why! Thanks for doing it. I learned a lot and hopefully saved serious time and money!

[@krazykh]

wow... I am building a PC after many many years and had so many questions regarding RAM and XMP. Your video answered almost every single question that had come to my mind and then some. I could not hit the Subscribe button fast enough. Bless you for such a detailed and informative video

[@Alex_Greu_de_gasit]

This is on of the most interesting and informative videos on KZbin. I can only imagine how difficult it was to make. Thank you!

[@andrei007ps]

JJ has been the best spokesperson for Asus for years, always learning something new from him. Even though he works for the company, he actually gives valuable standardised info for a variety of products and situations not just Asus.

[@granthampson5917]

Great topic and excellent Guest. Very well versed. I don't think it a beginner video, more intemediate->enthusiasts/professionals. I was worried about the length, but he went systematically through explanation s. I learnt and added knowledge/understanding. Peace from South Africa 🇿🇦

[@TreyJays]

This guy is actually very knowledgeable. Good content.

[@mirrienliang1561]

Last month I spent about 2 days figuring this out on my newly built PC. I had random black screens and dead PC during gaming especially. While browsing solutions online, I remember watching one of your previous videos that actually talked about the compatability issue of XMP and 4 sticks DDR5 as well. That inspired me. I have 2 * 2 * 32 GB Fury stick kit + 4090 + Z790 Hero MOBO. You helped me locate the exact problem: XMP. I ran a bunch of memtest and found that none of Auto, Manual + some recommended tuning, and XMP 1 worked at all. After upgrading the BIOS to the lastest version (08xx?), I found that only XMP2 at advertised rate or Manual at factory rate worked. After setting to XMP2, all problems were gone and my PC never worked this smoothly before. Your video is EXACTLY the tour I had been through. I really hoped this life saver had come a bit earlier. Great review!

[@midi002]

This is me right now. I'm on day 5.

[@lightward9487]

XMP is intel gigante

[@mirrienliang1561]

@@NearMedia Yes sir this is the latest version by now. At the time I checked that out, 0904 wasn't available yet. Btw, 0816 works perfectly and I am not bothered to try 0904 for potentially new trash to deal with

[@mirrienliang1561]

@@NearMedia Yes sir. All tests were passed. Practically, it's been about 20 days with no black screen. No freeze. No sysfaults. Nothing. I assume it's long enough to be firm about it now.

[@RobBCactive]

4xDDR5 lowers the supported speeds. Unfortunately XMP/EXPO counts as memory overclocking so there 's CPUs that won't handle even 2xDDR5 at the advertised speeds, while over boards manage 4 DIMM configurations. I read the Gigabyite board notes and they were talking about their memory configuration avoiding drawbacks of daisy chaining. There's plenty of small server boards with ECC on the AMD side aimed at the small server market.

[@qrogueuk]

Over 20+ years of building and upgrading PC's I've learned a lot and every day still a school day. Thanks for the video. I'm using 2x32GB 3600 DDR4 CL18. When building (Jan 2020) my current daily (3950X in the X570 AORUS MASTER). I researched different combo's (via forums/videos/websites etc) of ram kits, mobo, CPU, GPU's and compared the QVL. Which led me to this set up, its not always as simple as 'plug and play'. When dealing different PC hardware, taking time can help but sometime trouble shooting take time. Even for the most simple fixes!

[@kidman2505]

I was waiting for that Topology talk mmmmm MMMMMMMMMMM!

[@thelandofdustin]

This is such a comprehensive and helpful video for understanding XMP. Thanks so much for creating this!

[@davidjames4583]

JJ as always rocks with very helpful info. Awesome video. 👍 !!

[@NothinEasyGaming]

I express my gratitude for an excellent tutorial. Initially, I acquired a Corsair DDR4-3600 64GB module and promptly observed that it failed to deliver the expected speed, resulting in the sluggish performance of applications and frequent crashes. Subsequently, I made an exchange for a DDR4-3200 64GB module. Upon attending an Asus BIOS class 101, I was able to optimize the settings, achieving the desired performance level.

[@dirk8472]

first of all, i was a bit scared away from a 1h41min video, but it was one of the best times spend to understand a lot of topics about memory better, than ever before. This will scale through many builds in the future!!!!

[@DJaquithFL]

In all my years, even with fairly aggressive overclocking the CPU is generally the last thing to go. The highest failure rates are your motherboard, GPU and PSU.

[@roythunderplump]

They seem to be the most expensive right now. Good business for the manufactures.

[@DJaquithFL]

@@roythunderplump .. Yeah engineering failure by design is pretty evil.

[@shtprof2000]

14900KS has entered the chat

[@josephaltman460]

There should be a notice on the box! I bought two 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 6000 kits and could not get a proper overclock no matter what I did. 4800 is just too too slow for me! Luckily I was able to return them and I bought a single 2x32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 6400 kit instead.

[@automan1223]

Super fascinating to know every part has variances / performance limits.. great interview !!

[@IrocZIV]

I wish reviewers would do their first tests of CPUs while running memory at JEDEC. If that is the speed they guarantee, that is how they should be evaluated. If the CPU manufacturer thinks its "sweet spot" is 6000MT/s then they should validate the CPUs for that speed, especially if they say running XMP/ EXPO will void the warranty.

[@Real_MisterSir]

It's very simple, if the advertised speed isn't the JEDEC speed, then achieving the speed with XMP does not void warranty. If they want to claim that, you can simply countersue them for fraudulent marketing and earn an easy case win. If the basis of your purchase is that XMP-enabled speed was what they advertised, then that's what is legally binding in court. However, if you use XMP to exceed the advertised speed rating on the product packaging/marketed description, then it will void warranty.

[@IrocZIV]

@@Real_MisterSir Lets take AMD. They seeded reviewers with EXPO 6000MT/s sticks, claiming its the sweet spot memory. However if you look at their webpage it specifically lists DDR5-5200 2x2R or 2x1R as the Max supported memory speed. If this is all they are willing to cover under warranty/guarantee as an achievable speed, that should be what the base review uses.

[@MaddJakd]

I thought it was the reviewers (both good and bad ones honestly) pointed out ages ago how finiky memeory was with the newer playforms, sonetimes not even being able to achieve what they ARE rated for given the chips themselves

[@miketjdickey2954]

Good morning this was very good explanation of the mem 😊

[@mikecurry2903]

Man! What a greatly informative, interesting, and helpful video!! This clarified a bunch of questions I’ve had for years. Thank you for such a thoughtful interview (with perfect questions) with just the right person.

[@Nick_R_]

Regardless of Asus's issues, Juan Guerrero is a brilliant contributor. He really knows his onions and explains complex tech very well.

[@ebojager]

Great Video! I even sat through the entire video! Great information thank you and JJ from Asus too!

[@Thaleios]

Enjoy this a lot. I remember when I got my Asus X99 Deluxe board back in 2015. It has 8 dimm slots and I have it fully populated but only 64gb total because back then 8GB was the largest dimm I could get, so I got 2x 4 dimm kits. It still runs great to this day running a 5960x.

[@ArKay-nj2nh]

Exact same configuration. I have 3 X99 boards, all ASUS. Originally had FlareX ( 8 x 8G ) on the Rampage V Edition 10 / 6900k, always worked great. Swapped in G.Skills Trident RGB ( 8 x 8G ) when I installed the Flare X onto a Aorus X399 TR4 Board with a 1950X. All kits I use are 3200mhz . Seems after the Trident Z was installed, little things would freeze ( like the mouse ) What faults can occur when it's a memory problem ? Can I manually reduce the Ram speed to 3000mhz to see if that helps or increase the voltage?

[@Faisal1504]

Very nice analysis thanks for sharing.

[@marksadventures3889]

So why can't I find 64gb sticks if I'm reduced to 2 lanes of ram?and if I load and dont get my 128gb I feel they are stealing from me. Why have 4 lanes even in groups of dual lane. I bought a board specifically for 128gb of ram now they're saying oh, well you won't get that. At the very least it's deception. I am buying those numbers because the work I intend to do isram hungry. So what else? Spend more? The more I hear the pissed I'm getting. Have I missed something here?

[@La-eh4jk]

Do you think manufactures dont know what they are doing? Do you think they didn't know all these issues before launching DDR5? of course they do. Thing is as they work on the issues they release rams sticks because people will buy regardless. Is all about money. Always been. Always will be.

[@billkastanakiscom]

Nice one at 0:15, there is a FURY (FUw RYasons)! Great vid!

[@dmagulado]

I've been researching about technical difficulties with 4 sticks of DDR5. This by far provides so much information. thank you for this video.

[@forrgy89]

Great Video. Helped me TS my AMD expo issue.

[@joshyddog2054]

Learn lot from this!! Been having issues with running 7200 on my encore

[@seelook1]

Great video so much info for people who building on there own.

[@Paul-if1jq]

Really informative video... well done guys

[@ColinDyckes]

I think that 'rank' can better be explained by considering the extra capacitance added to the address and data lines if the sticks are double sided (current 32gb per stick!). This extra capacitance slows down the rise and fall times of the signals as well as additional load on the IMC. Maximum RAM chip size has just jumped to 24GB allowing 48GB with two x single rank and 7200MTs (G.Skill 7200 or even 8000+ if you have an Apex M/B). I'm running the 7200 on my Asus ROG Z790 Hero and just about to start playing with faster timings 🙂). Great video BTW!

[@garyshumway9089]

Excellent! Great review. Thank you.

[@midi002]

Thanks!

[@Bluelagoonstudios]

I have big complaints about Asus, they don't update their QVL lists, especially from older platforms like AM4, I have a new TUF board, and the 2x32Gb Corsair DIMMs they list, is almost a year obsolete. How the hell can you work with QVL lists that are not updated? Their service department also cannot answer my questions. So I have to find out myself if a stick works or not, that is a 200€ gamble.

[@ThomsBP]

What an amazing video!! This is definitely the way to go. A semi-casual chat with a knowledgeable no-nonsense professional about relevant topics. It's so refreshing to see this instead of angry profit hungry youtubers that will tell you anything for a like. Hope more people would do this!!

[@n.erdbeer]

Great informative video. I tried half a dozen RAM kits with my 7700x with Asus B650-A Gaming mainboard and DDR5 6000 CL 30, 32, 36, 40 kits and all failed at 6000mhz. Apparently the CPU memory controller can't run it stable. I managed to run it stable with 5600 MHz with at least the faster expo timings. I hope a future CPU replacement will run it stable at 6000.

[@StewartWild]

Kingpin did an interview explaining these things not long ago. I can't find it, otherwise I would link it. He said the same thing a lot quicker and clearer than this guy. Basically, Kingpin was saying his preference in motherboards for overlocking stability was for only 2 DIMM slots. The more slots you add, the more noise potential you introduce. The more noise, the slower the speed potential. Same with DIMMS - single sided DIMMs (or single-rank as they are also called) are capable of higher speeds than dual-rank DIMMS. (double sided). The fewer IC's on a DIMM the more stable it could/should be.

[@councilofgiants1031]

Wholly mother of Jebus Kristofferson! Man, did I need this interview! I know I'm late. I just started building PCs again after a, uh... Hiatus... And I needed this. Thank you so much for sharing this with all of us. Thank you. :o)

[@georgeindestructible]

Most people don't know that certain voltages in the UEFI/BIOS need to be increased when you enable XMP/XPO in for memory to be stable since it is actually overclocking.

[@dezibeldani]

Wow, that was a lot! I learned of new test software: OCCT and XTU.

[@OliOligon]

finished the build for my wife yesterday: 13900K on a MSI Z790 Carbon Wifi with 4x 16GB Corsair (CMT32GX5M2X6200C36, 6200MHz CL36, Hynix M) running absolutly rock solid in XMP @ 6200 with latest BIOS (7D89v15). Just turned on XMP1, expected a boot loop, but it simply worked with all stress tests. Fingers crossed. Very happy.

[@mehck-gk9yn]

lock the p-cores on that 13900k asap.

[@JaySerano]

It's simple, today you buy hardware > It doesn't work.

[@RobloxianX]

honestly people need to remember that just because 192GB DDR5-8800 CL28 is technically a combination of all the best specs, it isn't possible on an actual PC. You trade MT/s for Latency, and also quantity for both. That is why people don't buy the most expensive RAM, they buy the best middleground as that will be what gets them the most performance. In this case, 2x16GB for gaming and 2x32GB for productivity with DDR5-6000 CL30 is by far the best way to go.

[@bobwatkins1271]

Excellent and very informative video! It's too bad that ASUS doesn't have employees of the caliber of J.J. working in their customer support department.

[@Linkervalley]

Ask him about the SOC voltage issue.

[@Filmmaker809]

I'm upgradiing to a new PC with DDR5, but I would like to be able to use either 128GB or 192GB, but I am worried about the stablilty issues. I'd like to know more about adding only x2 48GB ram sticks for a total of 96GB.

[@roytait]

The ultimate guide indeed. This video is pure gold, countering all the misinformation and explaining clearly why 4 -v- 2 XMP stick configuratons may not give the expected results. Thank you!

[@ritogamo9830]

My ram made my board post to safe mode every time I enabled XMP 3200 and default timings. Turns out the DDR4 sticks I bought from amazon is rated at 2133 and you can tell they just stamped the 3200 sticker on the box lid. Read carefully what they say in the description and also reviews with 1 or 2 stars. My advice is if you want a certain speed in ram always buy somewhat higher speed, in my case I want to hit 3200 therefore I will have to buy 3600 sticks or above.

[@OFM1209]

Well I just set up my Amazon return on my second set of sticks already ready

[@timothypatch5080]

Very informative video but I don’t like the excuses for no XMP at 4 sticks. They know people like Aesthetics every pc component company makes there products for aesthetics so then making the excuse that they can’t is annoying

[@Synchrodipity]

I've had a nightmare trying to get 64gb of non-QVL RAM (Corsair Vengeance 5600 CL 40) to remain stable on my Proart Z790 - so, I've just swapped it for some QVL Kingston Fury Beast (with the same specs) and now I have the 'XMP Tweaked' option. If I can manage a week without a BSOD I'll report back and let you know - but so far so good. :)

[@WiFeYBurGLeR1]

My z790 Apex is a beast I daily 8000mhz stable. I was able to get 7800mhz XMP to work out the box. It wouldn't work on the Z790 Hero or Z790 Master even though its advertised. I have a 13900KS so it's binned plus I have a good MC so it should work as advertised on those boards.

[@midi002]

Cries in z70 Max Hero

[@facegamefps6725]

Same here z790 tachyon and apex..8000 is a joke. 6000 ram is slower than ddr4 4000 so minimums is 7200. I find this video a joke

[@theovannieuwenhuizen5756]

Good info, but a little bit Asus marketing skewed. But what is the real problem of getting faster DDR5 to work? Why isnt getting the right (slightly higher) VCC to the (individual) modules discussed? This does solve the issue with the memory controller in 13th and probably 14th gen Intel CPU. Pleas comment on this and maybe get a video out. Would be really interesting!

[@JoshBarea]

Any video with JJ is gonna be a banger, definite knowledge being dropped on ya. Third of the way through the video and I'm hooked. Thanks guys for the collab.

[@JayzBeerz]

AM5 can't even run 4 sticks at 6000MHz. Intel no issues.

[@tomr3319]

Thanks for the video! This memory thing is so frustrating..

[@BeastMortThe]

What AIO is that on the background system? That screen is massive!

[@lawrenceredmacher4382]

so what I've learned about "rank": it's extremely important. and also it's impossible to find what kind you have.

[@azzazel_99]

There are 4 stick XMP kits out now.

[@2FarTech]

Great Video. We always face issues with our DDR5 prebuilds with XMP profile and 4 Ram Dimm configurations (128GB). We use a combination of tools to test our prebuilds with 4 RAM DIMM configuration on XMP. The most effective one that can show the XMP issue is the Aida64 Stability Test. Sometimes we run AIDA 64 + Unigine Heaven for 20 to 30 minutes. Most Low-end Rams never get XMP performance, and we find a stable frequency by manually checking each frequency. Once again this is done for our prebuilds as stability is considered the most important aspect of our systems.

[@choppergirl]

The long and short of this is this has been an absolute nightmare for consumers. For years we've been putting in 4 sticks of RAM and not thinking twice about it. Now if you install 4 DIMMs your system won't boot and you're in a BIOS h377nightmare trying to figure out why. Because the EFI BIOS won't say hey, 4 DIMMs, okay, lets default to safely run them at half the speed and all will be a-ok. NOPE.

[@bradjohnson15]

wow, that was a lot. i learned i knew nothing about ram and its pretty much a roll of the dice whether we can optimize ram to our system at all. Just have to accept the best that you can get and hope the Silicone Pottery gods are on your side.

[@TheK9music]

Can you please redo the audio for your sponsor spot. The whole video is so polished and always your ad read audio is much worse

[@mr.electronx9036]

My problem with 3200mhz ram was, after flashing bios, my XMP didn't work. Got crashes ect. The simple Solution: increasing the voltage from 1.35v to 1.36 solved the Issue Remember, if you go with XMP, give a little bit more voltage in 0.1v steps, till it runns stable. That's all.

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[@0Metatron]

This is frikkin awesome information!!! Learnt so much

[@AbrahamLeanin]

Ok, just found your video. I had XMP working on an i9-10900k, then did a bios update and i have never been able to get it to work since. So its been a couple years, im cautiously optimistic. Will update after watching.

[@ShadowBaneling]

Good discussion. I didn't know I had to worry about XMP or EXPO potentially causing problems since the RAM kits advertise the profiles as a main selling feature.

[@RobBCactive]

Sometimes not knowing helps, I had 2xdual matching kits to have dual rank dual channel and just got lucky with the mobo memory training. The XMP just worked and it was only later fine tuning with a manual oc that I realised I'd been lucky. Memtest showed my DIMMS started throwing errors just below the next speed bin up, a much more expensive one at the time.

[@billythecat]

what's expo? have i missed that it was talked about in this video?

[@RobBCactive]

@@billythecat Google AMD EXPO memory as an aide memoire.

[@billythecat]

@@RobBCactive oh so it's the xmp of AMD. Thank you.

[@RobBCactive]

@@billythecat it's royalty free, Intel charges for use of XMP

[@gokunex3]

AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Processor & MSI PRO B650-S WIFI DDR5 AM5 ATX Motherboard which ram xmp will work? 1. G.Skill Ripjaws S5 16GB DDR5 6000MHz Black Gaming Desktop RAM or 2. Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR5 6000MHz C36 White Desktop RAM

[@thepezfeo]

Very useful.

[@CywlexeemTacac]

Ask the guy from Asus who is the one in their company vandalizing their motherboards writing all sorts of of BS on them like "for those who dare".

[@xzm996]

22:00 lol that is me, wanting to go with 4x8GB config which is only 32GB instead of 64 or even 128. but its more than enough for my use cases; A- 1080p gaming B- 1080p 60Hz video editing C- 1080p game recording/streaming

[@helthuismartin]

DDR5 is selling scam..4 memory sticks in XMP wil go no higher than 3600 MHZ wich is DDR4 level.

[@PizzlesTechTime]

So I bought an Asus dark hero motherboard and every card reader I plug into USBC is getting USB 2.0 speeds. It will go up to 3.0 for about 10 seconds then throttles all the way down to 10 megabytes per second. I asked ASUS and they are blaming my RAM but it is on the QVL. I then took off all XMP settings and it got a little bit better but still throttling down. I need high capacity RAM that will run with a 14900K and dark hero motherboard. Please help somebody

[@PizzlesTechTime]

This is exactly the video I was looking for my projects eat up RAM in after effects in Adobe premiere. I bought $192 GB but I have been forced to use 2 GB at XMP 6400. Should I return the other sticks or just return all four until I find RAM that will run at XMP with high capacity

[@MiciiMicii]

I have 7950x3d gpu 4090 tuf , asus rog strix 679e f wifi and 6000mhz ram kingstone fury beast and the last bios update, when i turn on expo I or II or whatever , the system slowly boot but starts directly to windows , the bios dont show up anymore and in aida 64 when i stress test my memory at 6000mhz it says failed instantly , at 5600 seems ok in aida but still no bios show up anymore when i boot, idk what to do anymore if someone know please leave a comment, thanks!

[@4Nanook]

You are wrong, I've got an Intel 10900-x it is a quad channel Intel CPU maybe not that mainstream because it is a power hog, but it provides very decent performance and contrary to some other experience, it overlocked quite well for me. Running 4.9 Ghz and a base frequency CPU of 3.6 Ghz, all core, with air cooling. It is 4 channels, 8 slots, supports 256GB which I have fully equipped AND running at the full rated memory speed even though all four channels are equipped with two DIMMS each and it is stable.

[@johns4407]

Great interview video, all the info JJ shown helps a lot. My setup is frustrating. i9-13900K with Asus Prime A Wifi Z790 MB and Corsair two sets of 64GB Kit 6000Mhz CL40 (2x32GB Sticks) for 128GB filling up all the DIMM slots. Only 2 DIMMs in A2/B2 slots and XMP enabled and the CPU overheats on POST. I think the best I seen 2 sticks go on self adjustment during POST is 4800 Mhz and I don't think within Windows it was that great working. 4 sticks has been hit and miss to even get into windows but at 2nd last POST they trained to 3600Mhz and when the computer would go to sleep would not wake up properly like the USBs in the back I/O panel were not active or something. Keyboard wireless to the Dongle was not connected looking. So on next BIOS entry i have the 4 sticks setup at 3000Mhz just changing that DRAM Frequency Drop down box for the Memory Divider and not changing anything else.

[@Nick_R_]

All this is why reviewers should benchmark at standard settings, with XMP and Expo turned off, then show the effect of overclocking turned on.

[@rons4182]

I don't understand the statement 2 sticks of 32GB is better than 4 sticks of 16GB. The QVL listing for my Gigabyte Z790 Motherboard lists (i5-13600K): 1R8 sticks of 16GB from 7200 down to 6000. 2R8 sticks of 32GB from 6000 down to 3200. For 7200, you can only get it with 4 sticks of 1R8.

[@leonardodeoleo2645]

this was great.

[@unclesammedia]

Thank you so much for this video, I have built a 4K 10 bit editing machine this weekend. And struggled with this very issue- watched this and fixed that problem!

[@Cwattyeso]

Just built an i9-14900k system with a ROG Strix Z790-A Wi-Fi II board. Got 4x32gb Corsair Dominator 6600 RAM sticks. Updated the Bios on the Motherboard to latest available. System will not post or boot if I select either the XMP1 or XMP2 profiles in the bios. At standard setting the RAM only runs at 4000. Need to get this fixed somehow so the RAM runs at least somewhat closer to its advertised rating.

[@Frozoken]

Do your research mate. You'd be lucky to reach that with only 2 sticks on that board

[@mumpel_tg_test1305]

The 4x DDR5 RAM problem of the Asus Prime Z690-A was solved with Bios update 2305. Have all my G Skill Tridenz Z5 5600Mhz installed & tested with MemTest86 V10.2 free (USB). Before it was not possible for me 4x DDR 5 with 5600Mhz stable to run. am glad that it now runs. Great video THANKS

[@VVayVVard]

Something that's been puzzling me for a while is, why does the Z790 Apex have a 24+0 phase setup, instead of a split power setup, like 23+1, similar to the design used in the Z790 Hero and most other high-end motherboards? As I understand it, the latter number denotes the phase dedicated to the memory controller; if so, why was this functionality deemed unnecessary for the Apex? I would very much appreciate it if anyone who knows the answer (or has an idea) would share their knowledge. I've searched for the answer for hours, with no results, and it's driving me crazy.

[@VVayVVard]

Actually, after a month of research, I reached the conclusion that the +0 refers to the lack of power given to the iGPU. The Apex has no HDMI output, and therefore no way to take advantage of the integrated graphics chip, and hence it doesn't need to give it power, and this is what the +0 seems to indicate.

[@Joeteck]

Too drawn out. Lost interest when you started with what does RAM stand for. Really??

[@aneesfraddey1852]

As per Intel's website - 12400f supports DDR5 ram up to 4800MHz but Asus B760M-A AX supports OC ram up to 7200Mhz and normally supports up to 5600Mhz. My question is, if I run a dual channel ram, 2 sticks of 16GB with 5600Mhz. How will the CPU support it, will it lose bandwidth, will there be any bottlenecks??

[@danielabbott9312]

Corsair sells 4 dimm ddr5 kits I bought one like 2 weeks ago around the time the video dropped 4x16 6600mhz 32-39-39-76 corsair vengeance they have 4 dimm dominators too

[@karlandrewblanco9840]

Thats a ton lot of Info about NewGen RAM! I am a Average type that had a great hold of understanding about Computers but not a generally Overclocking type so this helped alot! Especially for those who understand more about how RAM and overclocking RAM works without the risk of damaging their investments blindingly. Thank you soo much to both of you keep up the good work and you have earned a subscriber! God Bless Sir!

[@giodegracia]

its been 6 years and that rog strix magnus michrophone still reminds me of a razor. hahaha!

[@HoshPak]

Absolutely agree on the RAM massaging. I currently run a 64GB kit of Mushkin rated at 3600 MT/s CL16. It would downright refuse posting on my system with XMP enabled. However, when I started dialling it in manually I would inch closer and closer to stable 4000 MT/s CL 18 with super tight tertiary timings and even voltage below XMP. Going through that and learning the ins and outs of memory tuning was a cool and ultimately rewarding experience.

[@RobBCactive]

Well you can get & tune fast memory with x3D then discover the lower rated untuned cheapest has the same application performance. 😮😮

[@vipeshadowv2571]

XMP I, II, or tweaked never worked for me at 7200 had BSOD and crashes about once every 4 hrs. Was still unstable though with testing in OCCT at any I, II or tweaked

[@benjamintrathen6119]

The ROG certified memory profile works great on my Team Group Dark ROG 16GB DDR4-3000 (x2 8GB single rank). I bought this kit because of Toms Hardware review saying each stick was dual ranked. Either they were mistaken or IC's were drastically changed mid manufacture.

[@pablovi77]

I don’t know what’s the need to overclock anything specially in a professional setup for work.

[@djpquickplays1244]

12th gen I do not believe would ever top out at 6000mhz ddr5. The board would be responsible. I have had 2x 12700K and a 12900K that all topped out at 7200mhz stable in testmem5 with absolut and occt, and it might be my board limiting them (MSI Z790 Carbon) as they all posted up to 7600mhz! Funny enough, I briefly had a 14700K and a 13900K which only hit 6800mhz but I am sure there was a configuration issue with my board, as I would expect the memory controller to be at least equal to 12th gen.