Teenage Engineering TP-7: MEGA REVIEW

Final thoughts- I love the TP-7, its so good! TX-6 was amazing, and now together with the TP-7 its even better. Super thankful TE made these machines!
00:00 packaging and cases
06:25 build quality
14:52 interlude
15:35 factory reset
17:51 speaker comparison
23:34 recording mode and button clicks
30:07 connectivity
34:45 overdubbing
38:38 internal mic edit mode
40:20 stem mode with tx-6
45:23 routing options
49:27 handling and button placement
52:04 multitrack replacements
53:37 OP-1 Field usb connection
55:02 power options
58:37 beat sync
59:39 track routing
01:03:00 microphone comparison
01:07:44 memo workflow
01:09:32 transcription workflow
01:11:58 transcription reflections
01:17:10 files
01:21:10 misc questions
01:23:29 warble and more
01:31:42 2 more answers
01:32:57 DJ mode!

[@user-vv9oe3zd2w]

At $1,500, nothing should be broken. Core functionality should be flawless. Physical stability should be perfect. 1 out of your 2 units was broken. TE is a creative/forward-thinking design firm that lacks quality control, which ultimately defines a product's outcome.

[@joesdayjob]

Mine had the same issue with the knob it was volume up down and off when I just tried to turn it on and up . I sent it back and I’m very disappointed because I want to own this forever

[@jaygilligan]

yeah i totally agree- what's crazy is that they don't every acknowledge any of these things even though everyone knows its going on. like with the bent op-z and its double triggers. i don't get what their internal strategy is. maybe i give them more credit than i should, perhaps there is no strategy. but surrounding the whole tp-7 release, i've seen tons of people with issues having to return their units. just making this up but it seems like the release was initially delayed, they wanted to have the products out at superbooth. then they announced anyway and rushed to ship without proper QC?

[@jaygilligan]

you are the 3rd person i've heard who had the same issue! when i wrote TE support they of course reacted as if my unit was a unique incident and they hadn't heard of the flaw before. but now i know of at least 3 people who have had the same thing.

[@RussellBradley]

Really love the in-depth video. There is barely anything online, so this was really appreciated. Thanks, mate!

[@jaygilligan]

hey thanks so much for your comment, i really appreciate you watching! i'm so confused why there aren't more videos online yet- lots of people have received their units by now. and i know a ton of synthfluencer types had a unit a long long time ago. it makes me feel like something is going on behind the scenes, like where sponsored people have been instructed to not post reviews for some reason. maybe waiting for a firmware update??

[@RussellBradley]

@@jaygilligan I'm thinking the same thing. super weird.

[@jaygilligan]

@@RussellBradley one thing is that i've sincerely noticed people in general being very curious about tp-7 as compared to when tx-6 was released. like it has so much more of a positive reception upon its announcement. everyone seems to really be into the design and love it as an object. so just from that hype i thought more casual youtube content makers would be putting out videos by now, i know a lot of tp-7's arrived to buyers long before i got mine.

[@zanakil]

I'm already nostalgic of the MiniDisc watching this vid for a bit. Seems like a thorough investigation so far, loving it. Keep up the good work.

[@jaygilligan]

yes! i loved my minidisc player so much. really appreciate you watching, thanks for the kind words!

[@dertyp6767]

This video is like a real reality check for those devices, that I haven't seen in this way on other channels. Really appreciate your work. Also love the humor. Good stuff!

[@jaygilligan]

haha thank you so much for your kind comment and for watching the video! i really want to make a follow up video on the tp-7 but so far i've only collected 2 kind of fun facts about the machine since its release. i thought there would be more to report over time. if i find a third thing to share, i'll make a short video with all 3 things in it. and yeah, gotta keep laughing when you buy a $1500 machine and it falls apart...

[@dertyp6767]

I‘ll be up for it. Would love to hear about your further experiences. Really wonder if TE jumped the shark on the field series or if they can get back to form with hardware and software updates.

[@jaygilligan]

@@dertyp6767 there was so much positive hype around the tp-7 before it came out... now that its been released, i don't hardly hear anything about it from the community. it could be a symptom of not having a bunch of stock out there yet... or it could also be a sign that the device didn't really do much for anybody in the end?

[@adonis0red]

It was nice and enjoyable to Wach a review from a perspective of Real world user. Thanks

[@robertgarvansnyder4665]

Amazing video, so glad to see a more in depth analysis. I do have one on the way, going to try it for a project and then decide if I want to keep it past the return period.

[@jaygilligan]

Thank you so much for the kind words! I'm also not sure how I'm going to fit it into my regular workflow. Still trying to understand all the options

[@robertgarvansnyder4665]

@@jaygilligan totally makes sense. At this stage, I'm most interested in it as a field and voice recorded. I love collecting sounds, and I'm also thinking that the form factor and transcription ability are going to be super helpful in my work and psychiatry training, not to mention for audio journalling. Obv there are more affordable devices that could do all those things, but I'm willing to invest in one that I'm excited to use.

[@bio303]

Most useful TP7 video out there. Thanks!

[@jaygilligan]

thanks for saying that!! appreciate you watching

[@Shimmery.mp3]

Thanks for the video! That idea of having the Choir sing your notes is so cool. I’m not holding my breath but I hope they don’t forget about Choir.

[@jaygilligan]

woah!! thanks so much for watching my video. yeah, i really hope choir gets some updates at some point, i love choir the most actually

[@matt-lang]

Really appreciate the video! The lack of official content from TE has been really surprising, but I think it's also an indication that they may have some more "core features" they want to add through software before they make an official video for the TP-7. Definitely some clear "first batch" issues with these between the center of the wheel coming out and the issues with the power/volume knob. Hopefully they can make some improvements to those parts for future batches. As someone who works in consumer electronics I would recommend you return the unit for any mechanical/functional defects like those; their engineers can get those back and investigate them to hopefully implement a PRQ for a fix.

[@jaygilligan]

thanks for watching!! TE has been really random in recent years in regards to even "officially" showing features of their releases. i had kind of thought it was because everyone online would make the videos for them, like Loopop and everyone. but now the only videos for tp-7 are called "overview" instead of reviews and all the usual suspects are missing. so yeah, i'm really hoping there's some sort of behind the scenes instructions to wait until there's a new firmware update or something? i saw on reddit that another user had the exact same issue with their power knob that i have so maybe its a more widespread issue...

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

that is why I am waiting on the updates just like with issues on the EP-133 KO2 sampler that has broken slider and software issues on release. I waited on the TX-6 until they added the USB disk option and love it so powerful! Looking forward to getting the TX-7 and EP-133 as well as the microphone but I will pass on the expensive Teenage Engineering desk that is not worth buying.

[@bitsandframes]

Great Review!

[@jaygilligan]

thank you so much for watching and for your comment! i really appreciate it. i don't usually do review videos, was really hesitant to do this one. so i'm glad at least one person got something out of it. i'd still love to see a breakdown of all the different versions of ins and outs for recording, especially when paired with the tx-6. i think its kind of weird that TE themselves haven't released any videos... though that's not very unusual for them with recent releases, at least the synthfluencers usually get some videos out by this point!

[@dezelve]

Hahah love this review. Thanks! 🕉️

[@jaygilligan]

thanks for watching!!

[@circuspriest9314]

Hey Jay. Nice to hear your take on this gear. Have the OP1 and Z since i left DOCH

[@jaygilligan]

those machines are so much fun!!!

[@ko8032]

thank u for this

[@jaygilligan]

Really appreciate your comment, thanks for watching!!!

[@CHANNELAPOLLO]

The best workflow for the field system would be OP1-Field (composition, beats, etc) into the TX6 for multi track mixing + compression and imprinted ‘ recorded onto the TP7. Just like the cassette era of mixtapes and beat tapes.

[@jaygilligan]

yeah, i really wish they would implement the workflow you outlined!!! but also just to say, they could of course just usb multitrack to the tp-7 from the op-1f... since the 1f also has internal levels of all tracks plus master effects?

[@CHANNELAPOLLO]

@@jaygilligan i did not know that the fields are able to do that. Im still waiting for my Field which i ordered last week. Thank you. Im hyped !!!

[@CHANNELAPOLLO]

@@jaygilligan ive been using the TP 7 for my MPC, micrkorg, and SPMK2. Knowing the Field does what you just mentioned is a big plus for me.

[@psysword]

@@CHANNELAPOLLOany update? Ordered both units

[@isaacnamias2655]

@@jaygilligan I just tried this and not able to get it to work! 4 tracks on Op1F USB my TP7-TP7 only receives it as a stereo track from OP1F...

[@drawperfectvideo8]

New to the channel. I did not see that interlude coming 😂😂

[@jaygilligan]

yessss!!!! thanks so much for watching!!!

[@mitchelceney4514]

The TP-7 as a controller for the OP-1 field tape would be cool. hope they can do that thru firmwares update later on. unless i've missed this function in demos so far???? i'm definitely gonna cop either way, its such a cool device. the design of the field range is so on point in my eye. Cheers for the demo, really enjoyed seeing it tried out in various ways. keep up the reviews!!!!

[@jaygilligan]

yeah as of right now there is no functionality between the tp-7 and op-1f. but it would be so awesome in a future update!! thanks so much for watching!!

[@walkinginla7489]

Thanks for the video! Can believe one basically didn’t work!

[@jaygilligan]

really appreciate you watching and the kind words! yeah, i was thinking it was a bit silly to order 2 at first... but i knew that one could arrive broken. i went through 4 op-1 fields before i kept the one i have now. so in the end i was glad to think ahead a little bit. and it seems i'm lucky that i had one that worked, even with 2 of them. i've seen a ton of people online who have had various issues with their new unit...

[@EgdeFilms]

Best video on KZbin.

[@jaygilligan]

thank you! i got a hot tip that there's a huge major TP-7 update dropping soon. the update will most likely be something like the scratching of the wheel records to the track now. and as well looping in and out points. stuff like that. but not multitrack from op-1f... though that's all me just guessing beyond that i heard the update is happening. also the TX-6 got a huge update yesterday with sampling, looping, and 2 x aux sends!!

[@RussellBradley]

LOL... "I guess there is a fire, idk what's going on"

[@eduardas_a]

Great video! Have you attempt recording sound from your Mac using a USB cable? Can’t get it to work

[@jaygilligan]

thank you so much for watching! i haven't tried yet with my mac... however, i've read on other places online that other people are also having a problem recording from their mac via usb... what's your setup that you're trying to record?

[@yorgohoebeke]

Hi! I want to create a super portable podcasting/recording kit. This TP-7 looks perfect. For the mics, I am hesitating between the tula and the CM-15 (and just using lav mics); any advice on how to decide? :)

[@EGDmitry]

Does it allow to keep pitch constant while interacting with the wheel? would be cool for transcribing music

[@jaygilligan]

No, the pitch varies with the speed of the movement of the wheel. I really wish that at least you could record these variations

[@pseifarth]

Is it possible to do a multitrak WAV recording to the TP-7 while simultaneously recording a post FX/EQ master to a usc b?

[@jaygilligan]

i think you got your answer over on reddit perhaps?

[@ZakMcallister]

I would love more dedicated videos about your other TE devices and your thoughts on them over the years

[@jaygilligan]

all my patreon subscribers get a daily video review of vintage TE gear!!!

[@jaygilligan]

@zakmcallister - you gonna get a TP-7?

[@ZakMcallister]

@@jaygilligan looking into a mixer, so possibly the TX-6, but I appreciate your unique approach to their equipment

[@jaygilligan]

@@ZakMcallister use the TX-6 for all my shows. It's my dream mixer, literally. Especially for touring due to the size. But also battery power... I have an entirely battery powered setup so I can do a show anywhere at all. It sounds so clean, recording to usb stick, decent effects. I like it so much I had two for some time. But in the end one is the best, two didn't really give anything special.

[@ZakMcallister]

@@jaygilligan battery speakers that carry and sound clear are also on my list! Do you use any TE speakers of any kind? JBL makes these fantastic jumbo ones that are entirely battery powered and I often use a hefty external power hub for all of the electrical components of my street show

[@davidRios622]

Have the TX-6 , but stopped using it for live sets , mostly use it as audio interface where I can have the same configuration for longer periods of time , but for live sets for me it's a hassle to move the tiny faders and EQ , on the other hand I can see myself using the TP-7 for live sets and record some stems , have very interesting functions.

[@jaygilligan]

yeah i totally get what you're saying about setting up the tx-6. i use mine for live sets constantly but i hardly do anything with it at all that takes any adjustment, really mostly using it to blend audio signals together with different levels. sometimes using the effects on the mixer but not too much of that even. but yeah i'm really looking forward to potentially capturing 6 live inputs from the tx-6 stemmed out to the tp-7!

[@Nimrawid]

10:40 Just some threadlock and screw it in haha :D Nice piece of hardware, I like the build. Sadly at their prices I can't justify buying it

[@jaygilligan]

yeah that's true- theadlock would work but for the price of the unit TE can come to my house and personally apply the threadlock and give a foot massage or something while i wait! 🤣

[@Nimrawid]

@@jaygilligan hahah yeah concierge with a screwdriver

[@davidpope5457]

Hi, Did you mention somewhere in the video that you had success connecting the TP-7 to the OB-4 via bluetooth and actually getting the latter to play the audio? I am able to connect to the OB-4 but nothing happens. I just see 'OB-4 L' on the TP-7 screen. Not sure what the L is referring to. Thanks

[@jaygilligan]

Hello! So right now the TP-7 Bluetooth connects to OB-4, OP-1, and OP-Z, but there is no functionality that we know of...

[@davidpope5457]

@@jaygilligan Cheers, Very informative video and discussions going on here. Even the mighty Son WU has weighed in! Good stuff

[@jaygilligan]

@@davidpope5457 yeah! son wu is the best- i took a private class from him and it was really worth it! i hope he gets a tp-7 at some point and can do some videos himself with it. really appreciate you watching my video and commenting, its really nice to have some discussion of the tp-7, really hard to find anything online

[@Winter-zv1dv]

Has your second unit’s power / volume knob remained perfect? My 2 week old TP-7’s knob flaked out just like your broken one (erratic volume, wouldn’t power off, etc). Hoping this isn’t something every unit eventually experiences.

[@jaygilligan]

so far my one good unit has remained good! i returned the other one. i heard of other people having the same problem with the volume knob. sorry to hear you are experiencing that!!

[@kisho2679]

is it suitable for live sampling/looping for DJs in a performance improvisation?

[@jaygilligan]

no, there is no real looping function yet. its the most requested feature at this point. you can play a file and repeat it, but you can see at the end of this video when i am in DJ mode that it doesn't really work and keep time...

[@Stadsjaap]

@2:20 The packaging is an homage to 1950's era broadcast studio reel to reel boxes. Same form factor, same way of opening. (Minus the magnet, of course.)

[@jaygilligan]

Nice!!! Thanks for mentioning that, really cool to know

[@drawperfectvideo8]

Would one be able to record the scratches into a DAW? I’m assuming no if you can’t onboard?

[@jaygilligan]

i haven't tried this yet. i know TE still is looking into making more of these units. hopefully in the future there will be a wider release and we'll get some proper demo videos online!!

[@sodiumlights]

Have you tried it walking/running with it? It seems incredibly sensitive to any jolts (or can that 'feature' be turned off?) Great video btw.

[@jaygilligan]

Great question! I just tried it for you- I thought it was pretty easy to walk or run with it without warble... That being said, I was paying attention to it, very aware of holding it. It's super easy to make it warble if you want to, but I didn't find it hard to not make it warble otherwise. It's true though, a good point to think about when moving around with it. Thanks for watching my review!

[@jaygilligan]

Forgot to add- you can also disable the wheel movement if desired! For example if you want to put it in your pocket as a music player

[@sodiumlights]

@@jaygilligan My thoughts exactly. Good news about the disable option. A skipping music player would not be good. A train journey with the TP sitting on a sometimes jolting table was also a concern. (Still baffled why they needed to make the box so big when something with the same design just far smaller would have made much more pocket-sense).

[@jaygilligan]

@@sodiumlights oh yeah, i didn't even think about a train... and that's definitely going to be one of my main use cases. i have to take trains for work for most of august, stockholm to copenhagen and back a bunch of times, about 5 hours each way. i'll have to see how it goes with the wheel engaged. in the end the box isn't so big compared to other things i need to throw in my bag... but you're right, relative to the size of the device itself, it would have been so sweet to just have the box be the size of 1 or 2 devices with the same swing out design.

[@sodiumlights]

@@jaygilligan Blimey, that's one long commute! I think the base of the TP is rubberised unlike the smooth fake leather TX, so that should absorb most shock...but we are talking about quality rail service and not like here in the judder-tactic UK :)

[@motionsick]

Forgetting Loctite on the most important screw is definitely something I would expect from a teenage engineer.

[@jaygilligan]

i mean, its hard to make hardware i guess....

[@erniecf]

What do you think about using it as a standalone field recorder ?

[@jaygilligan]

meh... depends on what intention or result you want to have from the recordings. the internal mic is pretty fine for voice memos... but for out and about capturing specific sounds... you might have to use an external mic. then you might as well get a real field recorder for an order of magnitude cheaper. i don't know, as it is right now without firmware updates its kind of useless

[@Funkrudin]

How to record stereo line in?

[@jaygilligan]

Select which input you want when plugging in a cable

[@wundo9372]

Hello great video! Side mention if you are looking for a good way to show volume a cheap decibel reader would be a great way to show how loud

[@jaygilligan]

Ah yeah that's a great idea!! I'll check it out for sure. Thanks for watching! In the end the TP-7 speaker is loud enough I guess for just general reference purposes

[@Gael_AG]

Thanks for the long review I was about to purchase a to-7 but finally I think it’s not for me although it’s a fantastic device but I d rather first invest into a tx-6 .

[@jaygilligan]

i use my tx-6 daily! i even use its drum machine function in my new live set. i just used the tp-7 for the first time yesterday since making this video here. it was ok i guess, but even what i was doing with it wasn't so easy. however, i did hear from a very reliable source that TE is going to release the new firmwares for all the field line which will give them many more functions in the future. so i think i will wait until then and see what happens. i heard first they are going to ramp up their production of the tp-7. guessing that when there's more of them out there, then the firmware updates will roll out...

[@Gael_AG]

@@jaygilligan I received the tx6 last week and yea as a drum machine it’s very very nice and I appreciate that I can use high impedance headphones . I hope we will be able to built our own sequence with the next firmware

[@jaygilligan]

@@Gael_AG yes! that's a great idea! would love to have more drum sequence options, maybe some sort of euclidian sequencer could be built in just as easily as the patterns that are there now...

[@jeitoots]

Does your tape wheel have a little wobble to it? Mines got a bit of give. If I tap on it you hear a click

[@jaygilligan]

The wheel feels fine here, no wobble and no click with a tap. I did read online that others had wheels that are on crooked.

[@jeitoots]

@@jaygilligan good to know. Seems to work perfectly well but will keep an eye on it!

[@jeitoots]

Oh and my memo button seems same as yours.

[@jaygilligan]

@@jeitoots thanks for letting me know! I was a little worried that my button might have been broken somehow but it seems like it's part of the design to have the memo button looser than the other buttons

[@reggieflo]

Can this setup run Djay on iOS? If i loaded a Serato Control tone on to the tp-7, how well does the platter take turntablism

[@jaygilligan]

this will not work 100%

[@reggieflo]

@@jaygilligan why not? The control tone would be fed into the tx-6 interfacing into djat itself. Genuinely curious, what’s stopping it from working?

[@jaygilligan]

@@reggieflo ah, got you! i think i misunderstood what you were saying. i mean, yeah, if the audio signal was being sent out, and it scratched that signal, i think you are right. i have no way of testing this unfortunately. i know TE said they are working on making more of these for a wider release. hopefully then someone can try this out and see how it works for real!!!

[@thepuma77]

It's been a year after this release. How is it? Also would love to see a teardown! haha

[@jaygilligan]

yes! great point! now that its been a year since it was announced, and about half a year since i received my unit, i can say that i've used it exactly once. i recorded an album with it. and even then i'd think twice about going through that process a second time. i'm waiting for a firmware update which makes it play nicely with other field gear and also have more functionality on its own. its nice to look at though! i do believe someone did a teardown of it back when units started shipping. i did a quick search now but didn't find the link. i saw it on reddit...

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

Would love one to pair with my TX-6 and also get the microphone for recording tracks, podcasts and songs.

[@jaygilligan]

i have to say, the cm-15 is way better than i thought it would be. its a great mic! highly recommend it. the tp-7 i haven't really found a good use case for. i'm waiting for some updates that will be coming in a long long time...

[@lachopakapura]

Great review,this is on a jewelry level, I don't need it but man... this is so sexy... has that nagra feel😊

[@bidaxlethai8465]

could we have a name a a usb c hub that work? i would like tho connect the op 1 to the tx6 and the tx 6 to iphone and to to 7.. the tx 6 would be the center clock..

[@SONWU]

Hey Jay! I was wondering too, why there are so few videos. Especially considering how much interest there is. One thing that I found really interesting is the pitch change when shaking the unit…I wonder how much that could be a problem for live use? On the other hand it's also a cool feature :D

[@jaygilligan]

Yooooo amazing to see you here! Your TP-7 video is blowing up- showing just how many people are curious about the 7. I guess the pitch change while shaking can be turned off by disabling the wheel... But yeah I kind of love the warble when moving it in my hand. I would really really love some TP-7 videos from you if you get one. Hope you're well!!

[@SONWU]

@@jaygilligan Thanks, hope you are well too! If it can be turned off, then that's a pretty nice feature. I enjoy the warble too :) Let's see, if I can get my hands on one of these…

[@jaygilligan]

@@SONWU there's 3 different settings for the wheel- off, where it doesn't spin ever. Then play mode where it spins during playback and can be used for scrubbing or then record and play mode where it spins during recording but only scrubs during playback and not recording.

[@aldogorilla5726]

There’s a site selling it for 500 bones. Given all the factors. Worth that price?

[@jaygilligan]

honestly that sounds like a scam- but if you can buy it for that price and it all works... sounds like a good deal to me

[@thepixelninja]

The setup presented at 01:32:57 costs about 5600 US Dollars.I love how both the presentation/production quality of this video, and the sound coming of those devices, mismatch the price tag.

[@jaygilligan]

Oh snap- that's a great idea for a KZbin channel... Stay tuned for more mismatched production quality expensive gear demos

[@muitosabao]

Immediately jumping from that to, yeah the volume button is glitching and the middle screw comes off easily

[@jaygilligan]

@@muitosabao seems there has been too many people to count online with stories about their tp-7 arriving broken. and rumors about te possibly trying to find a new manufacturer behind the scenes which is delaying the next run

[@furobituro5582]

U bought two? Planning for reselling ?

[@jaygilligan]

Yeah sure- you in the market for one??

[@furobituro5582]

@@jaygilligan no thx, just wondering if u wanted to make money on top the retail

[@jaygilligan]

@@furobituro5582 you can see in the video that I bought two on the hopes that one would work well enough to keep it. Glad I did since one was unusable. I want to keep the other one but if I had an extra one for sure I'd sell it for as much profit as I could to help pay for the one I keep

[@ONEHENDRIX]

Oooohhhh… that packaging that fits the TX-6 and the TP-7. SMH. And the pouch that can hold the TX-6, TP-7 and CM-15… 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ …I can’t bro, this is pure tech pornography. Bro… you got two TP-7’s???….

[@jaygilligan]

I honestly don't understand any of the comments here that area all like you got two TP-7's?? I get that it's a long video so if you don't have time to watch it and pay attention no worries. But I literally explain for most of the video why there are two TP-7's here. I returned the broken one. Anyway, I appreciate your comment and hope you're having a good new year so far! Best wishes

[@psysword]

@@jaygilliganha ha

[@eeclarkutube]

New batch incoming. Hope the glitches are fixed.

[@jaygilligan]

yes! i'm very curious to see how it goes. i already saw one reddit user who has a loose center disc again...

[@madedigital]

500 BUCKS IM IN

[@jaygilligan]

for 500 bucks you can get 5 of the tripods to put the tp-7 on!!!

[@moyosoremartins7194]

pls my rocker won't stop rolling and plays everything super fast and its not the pitch setting

[@jaygilligan]

i've seen 2 others online who have had the same problem. seems your unit is broken. you better return it or get a replacement!

[@Funkotronimus]

I feel like the field desk got more heat than any of the other products 😜

[@jaygilligan]

that's a good point! but tx-6 was even before that... everyone was losing their minds over how small it is. but i think now its been out for a year and lots of people see how useful it is

[@morlidor]

@@jaygilligan Useful for pixies maybe? But can they really afford it? Pot of gold, anyone?

[@jaygilligan]

@@morlidor 😂

[@asterox101]

The memo button rattles. It's "by design" according to TE itself. Mine does the same as does another person's on Elektronauts forum.

[@jaygilligan]

Thanks so much for the confirmation!!

[@davidpope5457]

@@jaygilligan That is good to know. The *looser* memo button was the only issue with my device that I was concerned about. Less resistance for quick memos I suppose. I'm not convinced that it was the correct decision though. I would have preferred if the buttons had a consistent tactility.

[@jaygilligan]

@@davidpope5457 yes!! I'm with you- I actually find a firm button easier to push consistently quicker. It feels like this button might be able to be pushed off center and not trigger. But I haven't had a problem with it not recording yet

[@osirismaximus2787]

You refer to the price complaints as "whining"... I don't even know how to begin explaining what a forehead-slapper it is that this language is coming from a person who dropped $3,000 on 2 of them, and both of them don't even work properly. Not to mention, the EP-133, a way more complex audio device, is only $299. Just look at that thing and everything it can do. This tiny recorder is 5 times the price and all it does is record and playback. When I first saw it, I litterally guessed it was going to be between $100 and $150. Or at least LESS expensive than the EP-133. So yeah, I'm "whining" about the price. Edit: I really hate ti be negative, being that the rest of your video was well done and i appreciate you going in depth on it and exposing its flaws. It just came off as snooty and out of touch when you put people down for not being made of money. Peace. ✌️

[@jaygilligan]

as far as i can tell one of my units worked correctly? i returned the other one which was broken on arrival. i think people are whining about the price when they don't understand what it takes to make a device like that. its all custom components. you have to literally build your own factory to make the machines. that means building the machines which make the machines. its insane. i'm not saying anyone can afford the price in the end, but i do think the price is not crazy considering all the work that goes into making something like this. as well, if the price is high, no one has to pay it?? so when people complain about it being too expensive, its not a legitimate complaint. but anyway, i really appreciate you watching the video and your passion for devices like this! hope you have a good holiday season

[@jerzyszyjkowski]

Two TP-7s???

[@jaygilligan]

i ordered two in case there were some problems. as you can see from the video one of them was not working correctly so i returned it. luckily i had the other one which works as i should. but yeah, i mean, if you can afford 2 i think the mini-dj setup is baller

[@jerzyszyjkowski]

I am envious even of 1:) I have no justification to buy it but the design of it and the concept is very appealing!

[@jaygilligan]

@@jerzyszyjkowskiit feels like holding the future in your hand somehow. Very much like something from Star Trek 😂

[@prmcd]

When can normal folks purchase this equipment.

[@jaygilligan]

seems that TE is trying to sort out a new manufacturing partner after the initial run was so messed up maybe? but in any case you can find these for sale at other retailers or at the usual gear markets right now...

[@Farold_Haltermeyer]

No more updates since last year?

[@jaygilligan]

Yeah I’m waiting and waiting. No idea what the hold up is. Beta testers are in the wild for months now…

[@Farold_Haltermeyer]

​​@@jaygilligan ah OK, thanks mate. Have been getting splinters sitting on the fence about this thing for over a year now awaiting it's development 😂 fingers crossed they show their customers a bit more respect 😊 Did you see the Sound on Sound vid on it? Was about to purchase it a year ago when I saw that and their attitude just put me off...the other field items are superb but this is the one I'd get the most out of yet their ineptitude is keeping me away, kinda sad. Big thanks for the efforts put into this extended demo and chat. Would be great to have your thoughts now time has passed

[@jaygilligan]

@@Farold_Haltermeyer to be very honest, i've only used the tp-7 twice since i got it. once was to record an album... which i kind of regretted using it for that in the end. it was hard to understand at what level the incoming signal needed to be to sound good on the internal recording. i could have used several other devices to capture the recording. then recently i got the tp-7 out as a super portable recorder for a line input signal out of the TE stem player. that's been pretty fun though i haven't listened back to the recordings except through the internal speaker on the tp-7. i was close to selling the tp-7 several times but... i search the forums and reddit each day, everyone says that the new firmware update will be revolutionary and make it impossible to live without th tp-7. for the life of me i can't imagine what that would be beyond usb cable directly from the op-1f to the tp-7 with live multitrack recording of its 4 tracks (8 stereo) which is what everyone has wanted from the op-1 since it was first released...

[@Farold_Haltermeyer]

@@jaygilligan that's fair...for my usage case it's field recordings/sample sources at almost instant notice in the wild, recording live jams of acoustic and electronic instruments and as a bounce machine to work alongside a Smpltrek, LoFi-XT and several OP-1's so it seems almost designed for my usage cases more than yours in the end!

[@jaygilligan]

@@Farold_Haltermeyer yeah i hear you! the thing is, i would use it for a bunch of things if only there were 1 or 2 little adjustments to its work flow and functionality. i was first most interested in using it together with tx-6 as a little portable live set- have each of my tracks in multi-track format, then mix it live on the tx-6 with effects. which i can still do but overall just like lack of loop points, lack of live looping control, etc. makes it a chore to deal with. as well there's a bunch of things i would use it for now... except i have pretty much in 100% of the cases something else which just works better for that job in the moment.

[@eyesintheskies]

🤔Making me a bit dubious about the build quality, hope you got a replacement alright 👍

[@jaygilligan]

thanks- i sent the broken one back. i actually ordered 2 at first not because i wanted to have 2 of them but exactly because i heard reports they were broken upon arrival and i wanted to increase my chance that i'd get one that worked. so i always intended to send one back and i'm really glad i ordered 2 to start with so i had one that worked!

[@eyesintheskies]

@@jaygilligan ah i see good thinking. Hopefully theyve tighten up on quality control. The metal bit i can understand & could always put some loctite on it. But the main on\off glitching out 🙄 was hoping to just carry it in a coat pocket to catch sounds out & about. Has the other one been trouble free so far?

[@jaygilligan]

@@eyesintheskies yeah so far the one i kept has been working as it should. i heard there will be a big firmware update which will make it much more functional. but i still pick it up and seriously expect it to not turn on or something at some point... wouldn't be surprised!

[@eyesintheskies]

@@jaygilligan thats good to know, think id have to find a nice small case so it would still fit in my pocket. But i guess anything at this price point used as a daily carry would be a worry. A lot of people travel with their op1s & they seem fairly sturdy. Really tempting 🤔

[@eyesintheskies]

Blimey this setup costs the same as 2 brand new technics sl1210s and a premium mixer 😦

[@thekwebster]

Send me the "broken" one for research purposes. tyvm

[@jaygilligan]

its in the mail!

[@davelee1935]

Jeez it just falls apart

[@jaygilligan]

yeah the silver disc on the one unit was just hanging out completely loose when i opened the package upon delivery. guess it rattled loose in transit or something. i've read online that lots of other people have had the same experience.

[@davelee1935]

@@jaygilligan cheers for the vid man

[@jaygilligan]

@@davelee1935 really appreciate you saying that!

[@fuckoff505]

​@jaygilligan thanks for letting us know

[@lambadainc8510]

Apparently you can not connect a normal Mic. You can only connect a Mic with Mic Level with a 4 Pin Adapter. This is crazy! I am very disapointed.

[@jaygilligan]

i'm not sure you need a 4 pin adapter. but what would be great, as other companies do, is if TE would publish a list or guide to what mics work. it doesn't need to be an exhaustive list, but just some examples of things they've tested. i know they at the very least gave 1 suggestion of a usb stick that works with the OP-Z and one brand of equipment which works with the Z for DMX. that was useful, instead of me having to try and troubleshoot by brand just because of whatever behind the scenes stuff was going on internally brand by brand.

[@lambadainc8510]

@@jaygilligan Yeah I bought a 4 pin adapter wich allows me to connect any mic ind headset mode.

[@lambadainc8510]

@@jaygilligan yes unfortunately if you have a mic that has no line level like most of them, you beed the 4 pin adapter.

[@1adneumann]

Really, it's very nice, but could'nt they have made it a bit smaller? (Sarcasm indeed from a 6'1" human.. if it was TWICE as big it would be very small.....) I just don't get it.....

[@jaygilligan]

i'm a touring artist, its how i make my living. having small gear is actually life changing in terms of airplane travel. being able to throw this mixer in my backpack and not worry about having to check it as luggage is a miracle. i've used the tx-6 on tour for 2 years now, its never once crashed or broken or let me down. i'd say its my most essential gear. i'm 6'2.5" ... if you're looking for a mixer for wild gesture live performing with big movements of your hands, this is not that mixer. but if you want something that is reliable, quiet, amazing sound quality, good solid effects, you just can't go wrong with the tx-6

[@lambadainc8510]

You can not connect a regular dynamic mic and you can not connect a condensator mic with a phantom powerer adapter. So what kind of mic can you connect? Well you can not connect much appart from their own gear. Wich is mad at this price point. I really regret buying this device!

[@jaygilligan]

you can connect a mic that has its own power... there are tons of options for that, for example the tula mic. but yes, it also excludes a ton of mics that need any sort of power. if you regret buying the device, can you return it? where did you get it from? i often buy new gear to try it out and then just return it for a full refund if its not what i need

[@lambadainc8510]

@@jaygilligan I dont like the sound of the Tula, it is not a profesional grade device I think

[@jaygilligan]

@@lambadainc8510 ah yeah, i can agree with that.

[@ShazammtheProducer]

scwooshie lol

[@MyNameJeff..]

Bro, how tf do you afford all this?

[@jaygilligan]

i'm a professional juggler- make sure to check out the other videos on my channel...

[@MyNameJeff..]

@@jaygilligan Ok, but would you ever juggle the tx-6 and two tp-7’s?

[@jaygilligan]

@@MyNameJeff.. sure, if i get paid! 🤣

[@MyNameJeff..]

@@jaygilligan hahaha! Perfect answer.

[@christianurgese]

2k€ op1 + 500 op2 + 2×... expensive toys to me

[@jaygilligan]

yeah those op2 are really expensive plus then like you point out 2x on top of that. and i agree, i only liked toys when i was a kid. now that i'm an adult, toys are just simply that... toys. thanks for your comment!

[@smalltown2223]

Or buy a torso S4 and a Soma Pipe for the same money.😂😂😂😂😂

[@jaygilligan]

yes!!! i can't wait for the S4, got in the first batch, won't be long now

[@smalltown2223]

@@jaygilligan Hopefully, Ooora has made a couple of videos, he’s got one already, the ‘listen mode’ he demonstrates is not something I knew was a function. It looks like a brilliant device. I’ve ordered the combo I mention myself, just waiting for the S4 to come in. I’m sure we’ll enjoy it.

[@Deezeone]

can you scratch with it?? haha

[@eyesintheskies]

Tempted by the tp7 but the mixer is just daft

[@spam_sampler]

idk why this is so expensive it just doesn’t worth it 😂

[@jaygilligan]

Yeah I think it's really unclear at the moment what the specific use case is to make it a must have. With one or two very small firmware additions it could easily justify its price. But right now 🤷

[@robertgarvansnyder4665]

Which firmware additions are you hoping for? I’d love to see multi-track to/from the OP-1 Field, and the option to do some kind of tape loops. Seems so strange to have such a tape-focused device without any looping functionality.

[@jaygilligan]

@@robertgarvansnyder4665 I'd love the ability to add tape markers, loop in and out points, trim, copy paste delete. The ability to rename files on the device. Maybe a gain per input. Perhaps a manual version of the Tombola sequencer using the wheel!

[@dannymontreal6316]

WTF is up with the thumbs bending back like a horror movie thumb. Spoooky.

[@jaygilligan]

Now we're finally getting into some real internet comments!

[@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers]

*MUCH* too expensive to be glitchy! And no, you don’t have to learn how to push the buttons - the click sound is a major design flaw. This item is very sketchy in my opinion. It’s way too expensive to have such quirky interface.

[@jaygilligan]

yeah, i agree! i also realized that the buttons click down and up. which means activation could have been on the up motion and not the down motion so then you wouldn't get that sound on the recording...

[@michael7018]

“Whatever” too many “whatever” review is so so not so good whatever 😂

[@jaygilligan]

i love youtube!!!!

[@michael7018]

@@jaygilligan whatever

[@jaygilligan]

@@michael7018thanks for watching!

[@morlidor]

Bad quality and bad design, But they undoubtedly are tiny and enormously overpriced! Makes the OP1 Field seem cheap...

[@jaygilligan]

Curious to know what you think is bad about the design?

[@morlidor]

@@jaygilligan Things sticking out are generally a sign of really bad design, and also several other illogical design choices. Tascam, Zoom Olympus and others already makes far superior better designed handheld recorders and they are way cheaper and better looking than TE's disastrous recorder.. I mean if TP7 had been 199 dollars I/we probably would not have been as critical.. But now it costs more than a good semipro homestudio including a computer and a Zoom handheld recorder...

[@jaygilligan]

@@morlidor yeah i hear you- people have in general been complaining about TE's design of "things sticking out" ever since they started this design language of the OP-Z on/off switch. but honestly, in all my touring, i've never had any of that stuff be a problem. i do around 150 shows a year, never broken the OP-Z switch, never had the OP-1 Field turn off or on on accident when i'm using it. i can't really conceive of how things sticking out will break- meaning what i would have to do to the units to break the things sticking out would also break any other piece of gear i have, at least it feels like that to me? like if i drop my laptop, its gonna break. same as the TP-7. but yeah, let's see, haven't had the TP-7 that long, haven't used it for much outside the house yet.

[@Ponk_80]

WTF is content anyway?

[@jaygilligan]

absolutely

[@rvallozzi]

wow a video channel about music gear, yet doesnt know how to use a microphone..

[@jaygilligan]

My CM-15 review is on another video! Thanks for watching, be sure to check out my NAMM 2024 coverage...

[@rvallozzi]

@@jaygilligan great. Hopefully you can use a microphone in your videos so it doesn’t sound so terrible.

[@jaygilligan]

@@rvallozzi​​⁠I'm trying to ramp up my Patreon and Twitch streams to afford a microphone. But I have some older videos on my channel from last year that uses a rode mic direct to my camera. One good video that sounds nice on my channel is the Another Sunset documentary which is about the Teenage Engineering OP-1 Field

[@richardm123uk]

It looks and sounds like a disaster.

[@jaygilligan]

i guess if you get a unit that isn't broken it can be pretty cool of certain specific use cases...

[@cyborgchimpy]

whoa...10 minutes in....glitches, parts falling off..the comments with people who all have hardware issues with this thing...insanity for 1500 dollars/euros...for a field recorder. I really will never understand people who will keep giving this company money and pretend they didnt buy it cuz its some designer boutique item to them. i'm just shaking my head the entire time. I have multiple pieces of music production hardware that collectively are worth multiple thousands of euros but I will never ever buy anything from teenage engineering. tis for people who wanna feel fancy.

[@jaygilligan]

I don't think I was ever pretending anything other than I "want to feel fancy..."? But the bigger question is, why does that bother you? I'm a hobbyist musician, I like new tech and design. I don't care at all about sound quality, that every piece of gear can do every single thing, I don't release music, I don't record music, I don't play live. So... You got to reexamine your motives here, not everyone is you?

[@cyborgchimpy]

@@jaygilligan I didnt mean specifically you. and it bothers me because people's infatuation for overpriced crap in a niche market has the potential to give more companies the idea they can make low quality stuff for insane prices, which in the end hurts the consumer if it becomes the norm. and yes, i'll stick with my opinion, or maybe alter my wording a bit: music producers who buy stuff like this or the OP-1 field from teenage engineering and act like its a state of the art highly functional device are just trying to rationalize and justify themselves breaking bank. its boutique design for that price. not serious music production equipment with everything else available.

[@samanderson806]

"I use a mac." yeah obviously

[@jaygilligan]

Exactly

[@deepseadiver8191]

What a phony company TE has become. They were selling the original OP-1 in eco friendly packaging. Now not only the packaging is made out of plastic, but is also unnecessarily large. Complete departure. Whatever works to sell their overpriced products.

[@jaygilligan]

A couple of thoughts here- the OG-1's original case fell apart over time, necessitating you to buy another case eventually. Not sure how eco friendly that is in the end. The new TP-7 box is intended to be robust enough to be used for the lifetime of the product. Secondly... I don't think anyone is buying the TP-7 based on its packaging? So not really sure how the plastic box is selling their "overpriced" products

[@deepseadiver8191]

@@jaygilligan Well, I hope you’ll agree that we disagree on what “overpriced” is. Believe it or not that after coating the original OP-1 packaging with resin I still keep it in it and (ironically and sadly) expect it to likely outlast the OP-1. Selling means creating a buzz about how cool the packaging is, your lengthy chapter in the video is a proof that it does sell quite well. But my comment was really about brand values and authenticity, I really don’t see anything other than arrogance.

[@jaygilligan]

@@deepseadiver8191 it's entirely possible that I'm wrong, and I'm not trying to argue just to argue, but isn't resin a type of plastic? So you coated your eco box in plastic? I just think the whole SJW bonus points argument is so thin when bashing TE and the TP-7. Doesn't sound too authentic to me- like if you're seriously so concerned with the environment, is the packaging of these products really the first thing to comment on? It's just another way to be mad at TE in a way that people don't get mad at other companies. No one is writing comments on KZbin videos about how the zoom h4n packaging is completely disposable and doesn't provide any after sale value

[@blueeyedsoulman]

People actually buy this? What people?

[@jaygilligan]

Good one!!

[@jaygilligan]

Zing!

[@propertymanager9149]

by any chance do you know if there is a shortcut to disable the motor wheel ?

[@jaygilligan]

the only way i know to disable the motor is to menu dive