'Television-Caliber' Creators Apologize After Exciting Announcement | Watcher Channel Analysis

[@MsClaudiaDuran]

When you've gotta discuss the latest youtube drama at 4, but you've got a luau at 5.

[@BigZebraCom]

Your comment is excellent! You are nearby awarded two internets.

[@tim8767]

HAHA

[@elphiegleason3899]

😂😂😂😂

[@nickid5210]

😅

[@Andy_Like_candy]

Aloha Friday 😊

[@bigospig]

Not shocking that guys from Buzzfeed have enormous egos and exaggerated self worth.

[@TheBrownMan75]

Spot on !!

[@sharonhoyt2133]

Nailed it!

[@elitegamer8351]

and they look so bizarre...uncanny valley

[@Darrylizer1]

🤣🤣🤣

[@RuminatingRaptor]

@@kknn523 I agree that they lack the business acumen, but they also have let their egos get the best of them.

[@Mike7mcdonald]

My gf just said “Who’s that handsome man in the floral shirt?” I told her, “That’s not today’s question, hun.” 🤨

[@MelvinJ64]

Lmao you had to divert her attention real quick before she fell for the good Doctor 😂

[@mgmarrow]

I understand her opinion!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@sansnom508]

I look forward to Dr Grande's floral shirt season each year! 🌺🌼🌸🏵❤️

[@rahrahrah8405]

Dr. Grande is a very handsome man tbh

[@pinrod1]

You should have said, I can't tell you his name, I can only speculate on a handsome man like this man.....😅

[@AMM3.]

My goal in life- to never find myself in a situation that warrants Dr. Grande to make a video about me

[@blueStarKitt7924]

Good goal!👍😂

[@dinosaursneverexisted8985]

Yeah if you’re the subject of one of his videos, you probably fucked up lol

[@tmcurly]

And he broke it down exceptionally well 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾

[@jordonkry]

you know you fucked up when there's a dr grande video about you

[@rhondajohnson8310]

😅 true!!!

[@yucatansuckaman5726]

You do not want this man on your case!!!!!! 😂😂

[@joaobrandao9482]

Not good!! 😂

[@amandawilkinsontarot7096]

😂😂😂

[@jk-sd6qc]

Avoid two things in life: earning a Darwin Award or becoming a subject for Dr. Grande's videos.

[@brianpratt3224]

I like how Dr. Grande covers all these famous people that I have never heard of.

[@alejandromolinac]

I just know them from a cool “unsolved mystery” show they used to do with BuzzFeed AGES ago…. They fit with Dr Grandes genre…. Eventually the quit and did their own thing…. Which didn’t really interest me…. So I had no idea what they had been up to since….

[@ymarisatambien]

Buzzfeed 2013 timesish. They were part of the group with Quinta Brunson from Abbott Elementary.

[@Meela234]

I remember Steven from the Buzzfeed food review channel where he and his show partner tried the same food at different price points. I liked that show.

[@Graycy808]

Right? It tells me who I need to Google lmao!

[@Lobonova]

Lol all these people who watch buzzfeed. Total garbage.

[@kingcosworth2643]

KZbin is international, what are they talking about? I'm currently in Australia watching a Dr in quite a shirt talking from America.

[@animillation]

I mean it is an amazing shirt

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

I know, right. That bit really confused me. YT is without a doubt international.

[@vlo123veronica]

Right! I said the same exact thing. Especially if someone is using a VPN, then they can watch anything anywhere as long as they have a computer/phone and internet.

[@helenmcdonnell2585]

Exactly. I'm in Northern Ireland

[@NewEnglandDad]

Every single business that forgets that their consumers are a component of their business will be doomed to fail.

[@easternkiwiz]

I don't think i heard a word, I was too mesmerised by the shirt

[@joedirt1965]

Dr Gande's shirt alone > than Watcher channel.

[@CYndibabI]

🤣

[@florptytoo]

It is a majestic shirt. A kingly shirt.

[@Illhostility]

Great shirt!

[@FourPawsInTheGrave]

He filmed this in the airplane bathroom on his way to Hawaii.

[@jamessimon3433]

I had no idea they existed outside of buzzfeed

[@micnorton9487]

They're KZbin content creators that got a little too big for their britches, this is pretty common on KZbin and I follow a channel penguinz0 where the content creator, a guy named Charlie who has over 14 million subs, comments on this stuff pretty regularly...

[@drshoe8744]

What's "buzzfeed"?

[@micnorton9487]

​@@drshoe8744Tell you the truth, I don't know lol... I've never had Twitter and haven't done Facebook in years, don't have twitch or other apps so, guess I'm still an internet neophyte lol...

[@briskettacos]

​@@drshoe8744imagine the opposite of journalism

[@kingcosworth2643]

@@drshoe8744 Buzzfeed is a leftwing tabloid rag

[@Throatzillaaa]

Based on what I have read about them, they've hired too many friends and family members as employees. Saying they need to let a few employees go is putting it lightly. I can't even pretend to imagine why they would need 25 employees. They already have a patreon with a lot of followers.

[@halfthefiber]

Maybe that's how they came to the deluded conclusion that they make television-caliber shows.

[@adotintheshark4848]

I think they understand video production more than they understand economics.

[@tmcurly]

Yup 10 min video of two guys drinking beer with a production crew of 20 people 😂.. They think they are Hollywood elite.

[@Amanda-el9dx]

I like Ryan and Shane from buzzfeed but would never pay for a subscription to watch them. They certainly have a high opinion of themselves.

[@allison8752]

💯

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

Them saying "anyone can afford it" tells me how out of touch and privileged they are.

[@andrewhastings462]

Spot on!

[@MrRaulstrnad]

exactly for free and with ads, Ryan and Shane are watchable but I wont pay for it

[@CacaCrotch]

You telling me that Buzzfeed is full of entitled egomaniacs? Shocker...

[@bigospig]

Dr. Grande's production value is high and looks like the set cost was about $78. Personality is more important than production value.

[@CountrysideCutie]

👍👍👍

[@28russ]

Yeah, and those guys certainly don't have personalities worth paying for. 🤦‍♂😂

[@TwoBs]

Helps to also have an amazing soothing voice and having someone not talk down on you like you’re a poor peasant for not handing them your money lol.

[@RuminatingRaptor]

Not always. Personality isn’t going to make TV-caliber content. The most it gets you is great reality TV, and that’s hardly worthy of an entire streaming service.

[@oooh19]

@@28russI love their personalities and banter between them but yea not worthwhile to pay another expense

[@SgtPepper333]

Their egos couldn’t keep up with inflation?

[@CatsClaw44]

Inflation has dropped so your joke is pretty dumb.

[@mountzod]

It seems your ability to grasp reality has dropped

[@tmcurly]

Too much spending and “flexing” 😂

[@13donstalos]

The idea that their viewers would be interested in paying for something that they had hitherto gotten for free is a Grade-A delusion.

[@florptytoo]

I love how you uttered "Are you...scared of...smile...dog?" in your finest Christopher Walken.

[@Gizziiusa]

just dont bring up the Moors in Sicily, unless you want the Kiss of Death. You've been warned.

[@and_the_first_last]

@@Gizziiusa Mwah

[@Gizziiusa]

@@and_the_first_last forgeta bout it

[@veetour]

In today’s question, “Can we analyze the choice of shirt Dr Grande is wearing?” Just a reminder, we’re not diagnosing, but we’re speculating on what may be happening here.

[@danieledugre1837]

Just my opinion?..the shirt is pretty cool

[@nickid5210]

😉

[@Gizziiusa]

He's mentally preparing himself for that long deserved beach holiday in Fiji.

[@Brendawallingbear]

Well I like it.

[@ktkt9982]

Spring ! 😊

[@hopeseekr]

I cancelled Netflix and give Dr. Grande $10/month via Patreon instead. He never demanded me to, but I watch his videos WAY more often and for HOURS more per month than I did Netflix, and my life is much more wholesome for it. Surprisingly, I have never watched one of his members-only videos on Patreon...

[@christophergarza9118]

You bring up a good point. Do I value Netflix that I never watch more than Dr. G? I should support the man who works hard to provide Contant. I enjoy..

[@hopeseekr]

@@christophergarza9118 Definitely Dr. Grande.

[@Beastmaster8698]

Bots?

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

@@christophergarza9118 That's fair that you can like his content but the bleating about him 'working hard' is ridiculous. His job is hardly arduous.

[@christophergarza9118]

@@It-is-me...Melsie Working hard is a bit much. Perhaps “putting in an effort.” Is more accurate.

[@agostinodublino1387]

MEANWHILE Dr.Grande is reaching 100% of success with just ZERO facial expressions 💥💯❤

[@londonmarie6974]

The duo Shane and Ryan are the reason why people followed them from Buzzfeed. But the other guy Steven, has his own segments and one of his is just him traveling around the world and trying incredible fancy food. like 1000$ items... and giving a review. and he only gets 1/2 the viewership to Ryan and Shane. If they just cut that food travel segment, I know 1000% they would save their company. But Steven is the CEO... so he wouldn't cut that. Thank you Dr. Grande, we appreciate you!

[@lozenger8]

It is far more nuanced than that and everyone reducing it to 'Steven is greedy' is disconcerting. Ryan and Shane wanted Steven to be the CEO despite them all being founders because he was more business minded. I did not think Watcher went about this in the right way, the messaging was appalling, but fans reacted out of pocket, particularly towards Steven. Everyone wants a scapegoat but sometimes situations are more complicated than we would like to admit.

[@DornishQueen]

Travel costs way too much. That segment needs to go.

[@jeepathecreepa]

Na....Ryan is a dick...he wants to be famous so bad...he isn't as bad at Stevens asshole self......but Shane is the ONLY halfway decent one here...and he should have known better. He should RUN and try to save his reputation, because at this point because this show is TOAST....DONE...They have alienated too many people...including me...I will NEVER watch again

[@-SarahElizabeth-]

All three are awful.

[@vrroomm]

It’s so weird and kinda parasocial that watcher fans keep putting the blame on Steven when these are three full grown adults that made a decision to do something. I saw so many people say they can tell from the look in Shane’s face that this was not his idea like wtffff 😂 it’s like they think Ryan and Shane are in a hostage situation, so weird. They chose Steven to be the ceo, blame them all.

[@rhondajohnson8310]

I watched Ryan and Shane on Buzzfeed and I enjoyed it but I didn't follow them after that. Came here to see what Ryan and Shane are up to, stayed for Dr. Grande's shirt.

[@debi909]

😂😁🤗

[@OLALALA1019]

Same!

[@bandit_of_trash]

Same here, I tried watching some stuff on Watcher but something always felt off to me so I didn't bother. I have gone back and watch their Buzzfeed Unsolved marathons a couple of times though.

[@ElSantoLuchador]

"Television-caliber" is a pretty low bar.

[@r12e5p]

Still higher than KZbin caliber though 😁

[@smii6180]

@@r12e5psome channels are a million times better than tv, if you’re looking for the right channels…

[@carolnahigian9518]

very Low caliber

[@MakerInMotion]

Yeah "Telivision-caliber" can be following two guys with a camera crew as they dig through piles of rusty junk in barns.

[@jakethomason5495]

not really. try living in a town with a screen gems. even these shows that last a season or two roll with like five or six tractor trailors worth of crew and equipment.

[@towritemichelle210]

I didn't get sidetracked by the shirt. I got sidetracked by the comments about the shirt😊

[@smartaleci]

Same! I paused it to read the comments and was not disappointed.

[@Rebecca-hc5ju]

🤣🤣😅

[@megnotmegan1966]

Yep same 😂❤

[@susanivy3619]

omg...all these comments about his shirt, it's hilarious. IMO the number of people commenting on his shirt is way more amusing than the shirt itself.

[@viradechtis]

These are the two corners of my internet watching that I did not expect to ever intersect XD

[@vaiciciaku]

I love how the shirt adds in the perfect harmony to the cacti in the background.

[@docsnake]

I have watched them since the very beginning on Buzzfeed. They were so clean cut, green, and wholesome then...what a trajectory.

[@QueenOfTheNorth65]

I watched Ryan and Shane years ago when they were with Buzzfeed and would cover historic murder mysteries, such as the story of Lizzie Borden and Jack the Ripper. They added humor to their videos and had a great rapport. But I’d lost track of them over the last several years.

[@vpg8000]

Me too. I was very surprised that they were still creating content.

[@luci-ferre]

Your loss. Their Watcher content is fabulous.

[@リset]

@@luci-ferreLol, there’s a lot of better things you could do with your time

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

It seems they lost track of reality over the years.

[@DarkSylvia]

@@luci-ferre Not really.

[@6330-z3p]

Hibiscus! National flower of Malaysia. Also known as bunga raya...translates to flower celebration.

[@cplmpcocptcl6306]

Dr. Grande never fails to deliver. *They were very impressed with themselves..😅

[@dameneko]

It's Aloha Friday! Very nice shirt, Dr. Grande!

[@johndonaldson3619]

The Dr Grande show now in 'Technicolor'

[@Jared_Wignall]

This whole situation was doomed before they recorded their goodbye video. I’m glad you covered this Dr. Grande, keep up the great work, have a great rest of your day and a great weekend. Take care!

[@yucatansuckaman5726]

Does Dr. G ever stop???? Everytime i look at my phone theres a fresh upload. Love the videos!!!!!! ❤

[@tmcurly]

Exceptional work ethic! Bravo 👏🏼

[@AleksLazar]

They would’ve been better off just quietly starting the subscription app and letting the new subscribers audience grow naturally.

[@bonniedeaves422]

Agreed. I think they tried to fix something that wasn't broken. Also tried running before mastering their walk. These are old sayings for a reason!

[@kristin123a]

But why even? They have patreon? Why not just make a more expensive tier or just make all tiers more expensive and add perks like watching videos one month before and some exclusive content?

[@kikiTHEalien]

No, they wouldn't. The point of this stunt was to get a viral moment and reach new audiences and it worked.

[@AleksLazar]

There are content creators that have the additional subscription app approach. They can post uncensored content that’s too much for KZbin or Patreon or advertisers.

[@lozenger8]

Yes I agree. The hard launch was 4/5ths of the mistake here.

[@lucyhannah1227]

you did raise a point i didnt even think about, if they are gung-ho about graduated from yt to 'television', they NEED to tighten up their dialogue or edit their unscripted moments better. i have no problem with it personally. but it's not 'television caliber' as they apparently want.

[@tmcurly]

It’s not “as they want” , the currently thinks it’s tv 📺 calibre and that KZbin is beneath** them*** 😂

[@esteemedmortal5917]

Oh damn, they messed up enough to catch Dr Grande’s attention! Love Ryan and Shane but glad they reversed course.

[@elizabethhamm5320]

I’ve been stuck in the house recovering from surgery for over a month. I still don’t have nearly enough time to watch all of the streaming content available to me. I get offers to try a new streaming service for a free or low cost subscription all the time. They found out the hard way how much competition they have

[@Rebecca-hc5ju]

I hope your recovery accelerates and you're better than ever, very soon!!💜💜

[@edenstanding8676]

Hooray! Floral for spring! Don't think I didn't notice lol

[@cptjockitch]

Now that youtube is older we are seeing channels get greedy and desperate. Ive seen lots of my favorite channels pivot to something else. I can feel the desperation with these channels. Its crazy that people arent satisfied with Advertising money, youtube money and Patrion money. KZbin used to be something people enjoyed for free now its like walking into San Francisco with bumbs looking for handouts. The average person is now paying more to watch youtube than cable. Its a crazy world we live in.

[@tillyt4054]

You pay for youtube ????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@geraldinenolan6312]

​@tillyt4054 yeah. Lots pay for not seeing adverts

[@cptjockitch]

@@tillyt4054 I dont but many people pay for premium youtube and support channels thru patrion

[@celeca7]

@@tillyt4054Its sooo worth it in my opinion. I value my time and relaxation more than $18/mo

[@Rebecca-hc5ju]

​@@tillyt4054 years ago, I thought paying for KZbin was one of the most ridiculous things a person could spend their $$ on. Fast forward, I don't know how I ever didn't!! The benefits are definitely worth it. I haven't had cable/satellite for years. In my opinion, that's $$ that could be better spent but $12.95 a month for no ads, videos that run in the background, family accounts, & more, is worth it.

[@Illhostility]

Dr Grande has the quality to start his own streaming service

[@tmcurly]

Quality is exceptional but KZbin is where the “action” is. Even Mr Beast knows this 🤓

[@fs819p60]

I picture Mrs. Grande telling him to try something new, step out of the comfort zone. As one who irons, the Doctor’s shirts are nicely laundered! No wrinkles in this beauty. LOL. 😂

[@scottlewisparsons9551]

I have never heard of these creatures. All the best from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺

[@Whatishappeningworld]

We need too look into the background of that shirt. Bringing the early 2000's Hawaiian style back. This is DR 'Trendsetter' Grande.

[@scarscar7616]

Yay! I got home just in time. Dr. Grande, I see you are still a ROCK STAR!

[@cocolove9916]

yess i love his videos 😭😭💖💖

[@zenawarrior7442]

Guess I am behind the times as never heard of them. Fun analysis again & nice shirt. Thanks Dr G😊💜🤍

[@NetWit20]

They should all get ukuleles and sing their apology.

[@catha_salix]

Lol

[@P00py8UTT]

Todd’s shirt game is unmatched. 🤩

[@vickichristian4474]

Love your shirt Dr. Grande .

[@BigZebraCom]

Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about why Dr Grande brought his Hawaiian shirts out of retirement like this.

[@amandawilkinsontarot7096]

Hello Dr Grande from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada 🇨🇦. I ❤ the shirt today.

[@m.f.richardson1602]

Always interesting Love the shirt❤ Thank you❤

[@motorcitykitty700]

Dang, I need to watch this again. I got lost in the shirt.

[@Mineav]

Shane Madej finally saw a ghost. The ghost of his own KZbin career.

[@catha_salix]

Lmao

[@KanoWhite53]

Thank you Dr. Grandshirt

[@vickinoeske1154]

Beautiful shirt, Dr. Grande. I think the flowers are gorgeous pink hibiscus. 😊🌺🌺🌺

[@shamudogsmith1751]

I'm sorry I didn't really take much notice of the story. I was absolutely entranced by Dr. G's amazing shirt 😍 I never realised he was a fashion icon.

[@Ken-fh4jc]

I live on KZbin and never even heard of these guys.

[@stefs3460]

I'm hearing more and more especially in the younger generation ( mid 30s and younger) people having trouble with empathy and ability to read facial expressions. Could this be a result of too much time on electronic devices?

[@Bess9779]

Considering half of what they watch is either a lie, not even real (AI), or not a true reality scenario.....I think you may have a point!!

[@aproxamillionwasps474]

I mean, it can’t be worse than the boomer/gen x lead stare 😂

[@birchlover3377]

Yes and after spending some time with my nephews I suspect also from the preponderance of superhero type movies and shows now. Why is so little entertainment now about actual humans?

[@gkamericanprincess]

Increased diagnoses of autism.

[@Retrosenescent]

Only if people are spending all their time watching Dr. Grande videos since he has no facial expressions. But if they’re watching anyone else, they should see plenty of facial expressions and not have any trouble interpreting them

[@tigq1430]

Never heard of them, but i never heard of 8 passengers either, but Dr. Grande, i hear all the time.🤗😁

[@niccolleholder]

I love the shirt!!! 🌺🪷🌸🌺🌸💮🏵️🏵️🪷🌸🌺

[@natashadame4397]

there's nothing wrong with wanting to scale up. that's what entrepreneurs do. I think what caused such a ruckus is the $5/month subscription fee? I wonder if it's "just" $2 would people still make such a big deal..?

[@Betty_R]

It seems like the cost of owning an international streaming platform would require a ridiculous volume of subscribers to survive at $5 a month. ..so they'd bring in advertisers and then they'd REALLY be bending to the advertisers

[@bonniedeaves422]

Love that half the comments today are about the wonderful shirt! 🌸🌸🌸

[@tmcurly]

It’s very pretty I would wear it 😎

[@happinessishomemade6242]

I love your shirt Dr. Grande.

[@onepartyroule]

…funny, I’d completely forgotten what my grandmother’s living room curtains were like. This has triggered lots of memories, thank you Dr G!

[@totalspoof8344]

Wow,that's a beautiful shirt. I'm getting a weird urge to go on a boat. I watched Watcher all the time and still will,as long as they don't put it behind a paywall.

[@lymarie1974]

Never heard of these kids. I'm interested in the shirt.

[@ExpandingHeart]

Love, love, love the shirt! I never thought I'd see you covering Watcher Entertainment, and I appreciate your analysis of the situation. I've followed them since they were at Buzzfeed, and I enjoy the content that does not feature Steven Lim, but I agree that it's not "tv quality" (which they seem to define as being on par with Netflix). I fear they have alienated some of their audience and am curious to see how they will do going forward.

[@tallblonde1976]

I haven't been this excited about a Dr. Grande shirt in a long time!

[@wintercame]

Dr Grande is very confident in his masculinity.

[@fredjonestowns4213]

Having the great Dr Grande do a story on them will get them more clicks then ever just out of curiosity.

[@what3801]

Yeah, their excuse to move off of KZbin was complete BS from the start. They got greedy and expected their audience to follow them blindly.

[@theSemiChrist]

Who are these people?! Why do I know these things about them, now?!

[@purrroudbeauty]

Thumbs up for this analysis doctor, AND for wearing that shirt. ❤ However, I think they were a setup from the start.

[@lydia_____]

I hate that this happened in the first place but it helped me find your channel so that's a silver lining!

[@Danko31]

Dr. Grande rocking another cool and vibrant shirt of his awesome collection.

[@corgisaan]

Omg nice shirt! Haha i had to click when the preview started playing on my phone. 😅

[@mab790]

Thanks for explaining. I saw apology video and couldn’t make sense of it. 😮

[@cyndiborys5087]

You mean they got “too big for their britches”!!

[@Minnesotagirl1978]

Very nice shirt today Dr. Grande.😊

[@Minnesotagirl1978]

After reading the comments, it's all about the 👕 shirt.

[@Kink_Shaman]

Hot damn, Dr. Grande. That is an excellent shirt. Happy Friday.

[@VictoriaMarch13]

Never heard of these guys or their KZbin channel but I will gladly sit and listen to Dr. Grande speculate about a situation like theirs.

[@alphaq1548]

Most unnecessary Dr grande analysis but I’m here for it

[@pipdippitydoooo]

Came for the content. Stayed for the shirt.

[@ELvis348]

Aloooooha Dr. Grande🌺I hope you’re going on a well-deserved vacation with the Mrs.🥰

[@superman9772]

yep... an ego trip never gets you to your desired destination...

[@decaftumbler]

Wow, this is a surprise to see this here. I wasn't the only parent this weekend who had to get involved in this drama.

[@allison8752]

Omg a Dr. Grande video about the Ghoul Boys!!

[@crittercrossing2913]

Yeah, I know I'm getting old, just don't have the energy to keep up with the nonsense entertainment😄 Thanks for the great analysis & fabulous floral shirt 🌺🌿🌺🌿

[@MelissaSchwartz143]

Awesome shirt. But also, don’t feel pressured to continue wearing cool shirts like that. Regular button ups are cool too!

[@heloramos82]

Now that is a shirt!! 🎉

[@lhippocamperouge7845]

Can’t wait to see his analysis on the tv shown « baby reindeer »

[@motorcitykitty700]

Same!

[@AreTheyAllYours]

The loud, wild shirt is the perfect juxtaposition to Dr Grande’s even and understated style of delivery.

[@Marloez82]

Wow tropical vibes with dr grande today 🌺🌺🌺

[@SwyTashee]

Oh snap! You know it’s bad if Dr. Grande is speculating on a situation like this… 👀👀👀👀👀 They were so clueless. Lol.

[@jeanholmes7976]

Dear Dr. Grande….what a beautiful shirt!! You look like you are ready for the weekend😇 Thank you for all your hard work and enjoy your weekend ❤🌵it is raining here in Colorado…from Jean.

[@winnskeen6303]

Dr. Grande’s shirt makes me happy because it helps me envision him casually lounging by a pool which the image of that makes me giggle with happiness for some reason lol

[@nickid5210]

This shirt tops the pink one!🌸🌺 Thanks Dr. Grande for this latest upload. 🫡

[@Meela234]

Love your shirt Dr. Grande 😍

[@DrAllDoRespect]

No one is safe from Dr Grande

[@carnifaxx]

There was a part of a video explaining the origin of each plant and their name... now we need a similar video explaining each shirt :D