Tell a Patient She's NOT Pregnant | Chicago Med | MD TV

[@RReena215]

I actually went thru this myself. Was feeling sick every morning and just not myself,took 2 home test that were both positive. I didn't have a period my stomach was growing I had morning sickness and weird cravings,every sign of pregnancy, finally have a Dr appointment about two months later and found out not pregnant. I was in shock and disbelief and then sad and embarrassed since I had already told so many people. Dr said pseudocyesis was what it's called when a woman has a lot of stress and hormones are all going crazy that can come up as pregnancy symptoms. I can tell you this is something that can really be devastating to someone and try not to judge them because it is a real thing

[@kaitokiddo9863]

My cousin been through that, after she took a nap, her belly got deflated, the people in my village still believed in the superstition and such and they think the devil/demon took the baby, and started blaming her 'that's why I told you it's forbidden to take a bath in river in the midday or took a nap in the twilight' etc.

[@yiotatort]

I think the hard part is you kind of put a pressure on yourself that you aren't allowed to mourn. But your belief that there was a pregnancy was real, and the loss of that belief is real. But the body isn't nice like that, sometimes the first sign of pregnancy is going into labor, and sometimes the signs show up with no pregnancy.

[@RReena215]

@@kaitokiddo9863 I'm sorry she had to go thru that. I know it's already upsetting enough and then to have people blame you for it happening makes everything so much worse. I hope she's doing better now.

[@RReena215]

@@yiotatort exactly. I was devastated when it happened to me and then I had some people saying I made it up or I did it to keep a boyfriend but I honestly thought I was pregnant. The main thing I blame myself for was not going to a Dr sooner and telling people so early. I never was able to get pregnant after this and thought it was some kind of punishment until it was an actual thing. Thanks for your understanding the situation and support 😊❤️

[@thisgirl5933]

That must've been so disappointing and sad. I'm sorry it happened to you. Our bodies are so complex.

[@AmethystEyes]

It’s also know as a “phantom pregnancy”, which I think is a better label than the older term “hysterical pregnancy” as it calls back to a time where the idea that women had a condition called “hysteria”.

[@gabriellagalli8564]

Queen Mary had went through that and caused her so much pain.

[@AmethystEyes]

@@gabriellagalli8564 yes, twice

[@KeniQilin]

exactly what I'd say is a colloquial term for pseudocyesis. Ive seen a few Dr Phil episodes about this condition

[@donkeytime4263]

Women are crazy

[@aaroncohen2700]

@@gabriellagalli8564 well in her case she was actually growing a tumor too.

[@weiss_paper]

Few decades ago a sister of my grandmother experienced this. Unfortunately back in a day it wasn't really studied that much. So she was considered insane and sent to a psychiatric hospital for the rest of her life. If only someone had cared about what she had been through, she wouldn't have to be trapped in such a place.

[@Starlee123]

That’s HORRIFIC! I’m so glad mental health care has improved because imagine how many women were locked away for things like this😢

[@pamelawhitelaw1458]

Thats so sad, however woman where 2nd class citizens and no one wanted to help or Research this . Thankfully now doctors are more open minded about things

[@jilla-dr9hu]

The rest of her life just for that? 😮that’s insane

[@mattgerrish908]

So since her body looked like she was pregnant and then they found out there was no baby inside her, they put her in a mental institution cuz her body had a strange reaction to stress?

[@weiss_paper]

@@mattgerrish908 basically yes

[@UnderTheTableGremlin]

I just don’t understand why the husband is mad at all of them. She didn’t explain it in the best way, but it’s not the medical staff’s fault that his wife is experiencing pseudocyesis.

[@unkownbeing5420]

It’s more on that they put his wife through a lot of worry and stress, it wasn’t malicious but seeing a love one like that and seeing the person that caused it makes people act first and think later at times Probably didn’t explain it well but it was the best I could do.

[@c.anguiano3124]

He’s having a big emotional response to a traumatic moment. I feel like a lot of people would react like that.

[@kepo364]

That is called displacement. It is a defense mechanism

[@davidf2244]

You...don't understand....why a parent....is mad....at someone...who just told them....that their child isn't just dead, but never even existed? 🤔 I'd be mad too. At every-fucking-one.

[@CasperV1982]

@@davidf2244 but it's not their fault is it?

[@laurabreland6985]

I had been sick for three or four days and went to the ER. The doctor told me I had a positive pregnancy test and I told him there was no way I was pregnant because I have no partner. I also found out I had a pretty bad UTI which I read can raise the pregnancy hormone level a little. Imagine my shock and disbelief!

[@WouldntULikeToKnow.]

Whoa, I didn't know that could happen!

[@MichelleEvans_CatLady]

Yes that happened to me I had a UTI that gave a positive pregnancy test but I was never pregnant

[@jeaniebird999]

Not so fun fact - if a male urinates on a pregnancy test and gets a positive result, he probably has prostate cancer, as that is the only time a male will produce the pregnancy hormone, HCG.

[@lissaC.W.]

Omg I have a uti now. I went to urgent care and I just started my antibiotics. I have to go to the doctors office in another week to check my blood and everything. I really hope something like that doesn’t happen.

[@richa.s9912]

If you have a good boyfriend and never had sex you might think that was a miracle and you just met your boyfriend only days ago .

[@maninblue88]

Unfortunately, the condition to which Dr. Charles refers is actually a real-life thing, although it's pretty rare from what I've read. Doesn't make it any less sad, though, in my opinion.

[@raven4k998]

sorry but your not pregnant you lost the baby

[@rosamunddrag8971]

It can even occur in dogs. I saw one phantom pregnancy in a one of my cousins patients. He prescribed a treatment, but it was still pretty sad. She was ready for the babies when there were non

[@dylanbroome7915]

How does the belly get big if there's no baby

[@cornonthecob3051]

Pretty sure it's also called a phantom pregnancy

[@raven4k998]

@@cornonthecob3051 yeah and it's a serious problem with some women oh I am pregnant not fat🤣🤣🤣

[@jessieBird96]

Wow, am I the only one who thinks it was cruel to ask the student doctor to deliver such a heavy diagnosis??

[@destinywickham3505]

no i did too

[@aimithestaaaar]

Uh yeah, it was kind of harsh on the new doctor but I *suppose* it gives them more experience and prepares them more to deliver this type of news when they become experienced,

[@ellis20022]

it happens several times to dr reese in the show and it takes a big mental toll on her. i understand drs need to be able to give bad news but dr charles despite being a good dr was a bad mentor. especially if u learn what he does later to her

[@FaithfulRead]

​@elliseden8152, what did he do later to her?

[@asymerics]

@@FaithfulReadi’m also curious since this show got taken off netflix :(

[@HulklingsBoyfriend]

Dr. Charles really should have handled this case. Sarah was way too inexperienced for that.

[@iamjesusgirl]

Just wondering, how do you expect her to become less inexperienced if Dr. Charles handles it? You can watch people handle things as much as you want, but you still don't become experienced without actually experiencing said thing.

[@Maerahn]

Dr Charles may have felt that the woman was more likely to accept the information coming from another woman rather than a man - a shared empathy/trust kind of thing. Women are generally dismissed and treated with condescension by male doctors anyway when it comes to reproductive/gynaelogical issues - trust me, I'm speaking from experience! - so there's a loss of trust to start with. Add to that being told the last thing you'd ever want to hear in that situation, with everything physically happening to your own body completely contradicting what some male doctor dude is telling you... it's just unfortunate that Dr Reece wasn't professionally equipped enough yet to do that.

[@felinemocha1995]

No students have to learn. The best way is through experience. Instead it should have been clearly explained that she is a student/newly qualified. Most people are understanding of that but it’s a show therefore drama drama drama

[@jodyjojo1381]

She gotta learn some time. He didn't leave her

[@eeveeongirl]

They probably should have rehearsed it before hand. I'm all for students need to learn, but throwing her into that very delicate situation unprepared is not going to help the patient and not going to help her learn. 10 minutes of going over how to deliver such a message and words to avoid would have done wonders

[@HobbyHillsVideos]

A "false pregnancy" is common in horses and dogs. They even produce milk right before their "due date". If it happens with them, why not humans?

[@piinkam0r]

It does there have been women who have gone to a whole “ 9 months” milk produce and everything phantom pregnancy i

[@swimfast724]

I can't even imagine what I would feel if this happened to me. It would be soul crushing, just like a miscarriage. This is a real thing and happens way more than you would think. I've wanted babies my whole life, I couldn't imagine the shock. 💔

[@miriamllamas224]

When a woman trying to get pregnant gets a negative results, she feels a loss for something she never had. I agree with you. A case like this would feel like a miscarriage.

[@hannahhurlbjt3670]

don’t ever compare THAT to a miscarriage

[@mamatlacuacha]

Yeah, no. Losing a baby and finding out you're not pregnant are two completely different things. Both are sad and tragic, but completely different.

[@stephaniemorrissey123]

Unless you're pro-choice. Then it's no biggie--it was just a clump of cells anyway.

[@miriamllamas224]

@@stephaniemorrissey123 🤮

[@rosecarder9569]

I have had a lot of phantom and chemical pregnancies. As well as 2 miscarriages. To the point to where I’ll take a home pregnancy test but I don’t get excited until I see the doctor and get a confirmed blood test.

[@hammerbro1947]

"The exposure of truth can sometimes result in tragedy. However! No matter how tragic the truth may be, it would be an even greater tragedy to avert one's eyes from it." -- Miles Edgeworth (Ace Attorney)

[@jilla-dr9hu]

Father sounds like a real piece of work. It obviously effected him as well as her. That kinda news has to be devastating. What’s absolutely mind blowing is that she said she felt the baby move when there was no baby to feel move.

[@murdahmammiez]

It was gaz. What the dr phil épisode of the woman that has been pregnant 4 yrs. Its a trip what the mind can make the body feel

[@ellis20022]

the mind is powerful. even if she became aware she didn't actually have a fetus inside her, her mental toll could've given her real symptoms. it's like when people feel phantom limb pain when they lose a part of their body, they know it's not there but their minds believe it is.

[@ellis20022]

like that desire to be pregnant because she has nothing else, the anxiety if she "fails", etc.

[@catherinemarsh5453]

Many years ago when I had a hysterectomy, I remember still having period pain every month for at least a year after the surgery. Different but similar.

[@merricat3025]

​@@murdahmammiezI saw that. Those women were delusional. Even after showed test results they refused to believe it.

[@NightingaleSpica]

I find Hysterical Pregnancy to be a fascinating case of body reacting to the mind. Just like sympathy pregnancy (note guys don't believe they are pregnant with sympathy pregnancy, they feel some of the symptoms of pregnancy like weight gain, cravings, and back pain) guys can experience. The mind is a powerful thing.

[@JassBeauty90]

My partner went through sympathy pregnancy on both of my pregnancys he also was emotional when he had that. Reading about it it's very interesting how the Brain (or body) can trick us.

[@thecomorbiditycurator8018]

It's like somatic pain from trauma, in a way. My psychpathologies 350 professor in college was a licensed practicing psychiatrist and with his former patient's permission, he gave us the example of the anonymous patient, a teen at the time of treatment, coming to see to him after several other specialists ruled out all possible physical causes for the severe pain in his hand. When they got to the root of the issue, they discovered that he was having somatic hand pain as a result of physical and religious trauma. His family was very devout in their religion and being a teen boy he was curious and had touched himself with the hand that was causing him so much physical pain. his parents caught him and beat him for it. about a week later, after getting in a fight at school, thus triggering the parent-inflicted physical and religious abuse trama, he began having the hand pain. his family assumed it was an injury from the fight at school, but it was the trauma and the severe religious guilt causing somatic pain. he made a full recovery, and after leaving home at 18 he declared himself an atheist.

[@AllyBubblesSpriggs]

She knew she wasn't pregnant! That's why she'd never been to a dr or had a sonogram done. I had no health insurance, and I STILL had at least 3 sonograms of my baby, and multiple drs appointments done. And I'm pretty sure they have health care. So she knew... was just ignoring it.

[@ComeliaO7]

There’s plenty of government programs that can help that provide at least one ultrasound to confirm pregnancy.

[@Skyebright1]

The baby should have a heartbeat that she could hear

[@spookymiraclepreacher6037]

The husband seems a little tough to deal with intense maybe she needed a baby to keep him calm and stop asking?

[@midnight_x_edits]

She literally said she had a doula

[@marleyart9090]

I've had four home births. Two of my four, I never had an ultrasound for. Not everyone follows the same set of medical interventions in pregnancy.

[@mermaidnott9713]

Imagine if she made it to nine months without knowing....... What would she do then?

[@nauggies]

steal a baby maybe?

[@DaughterofBabaYaga]

​@@nauggiesthat's actually been a documented response. One Mom I read about completely snapped and tried to steal a baby from one of the women who was in the same maternity ward completely convinced to shrieking, violent levels that this other lady had kidnapped her child from her womb without her being awake. Another was still grounded in reality so far that she knew that the kid wasn't hers but she was so distraught and ready to have a child and determined for her family to finally be whole she snapped and pretended to be a care aid (day care I believe) and stole a 4 month old.

[@LovelyGamer115]

In my case I kinda of went into ‘labor’. I was having contractions for about 6 hours, the worst pain I’d ever felt. But I knew at that point I was experiencing a phantom pregnancy. Like I was already trying to ignore the schedule of the fetal movement I felt. After the excruciating contractions on and off getting stronger. I took aleeve pm and tried to relax on my hands and knees (most comfortable position throughout all the pain) until I was tired enough to fall asleep. I woke up and my tummy finally deflated. It was an awful 5 months of my life from when I first started feeling faint butterfly movement.

[@feraltaco4783]

I have a cat who had two hysterical pregnancies and adopted a litter of my foster kittens. Twelve days later she decided motherhood isn't for her. She hasn't had any false pregnancies since. Yet. 🤣

[@dtetv8499]

So she got fat twice? How does it work with cats?

[@modernvivienleigh]

​@@dtetv8499 the same way it would with a human

[@spacemonkey340]

Seeing her doula? Doulas are not in any way allowed to give medical care. So basically she’s going forward with an unassisted pregnancy.

[@alexis112]

It’s actually really common to have little to no appointments or care in your first few weeks of pregnancy! Unless you need to confirm the pregnancy via blood or urine, you usually don’t see a doctor until around 5-8 weeks, and no ultrasound until around 10-11 weeks❤❤!

[@spacemonkey340]

@@alexis112 still not appropriate to seek medical care from a doula.

[@just-tess]

she was seven MONTHS😁😁

[@doctorposting]

the most unrealistic part of this is the doctor sending home the med student to sleep🤣🤣🤣

[@elderliddle2733]

“So we’re giving up?” No it’s called “we don’t want to get sued by the couple”. It’s actually against the law to perform medical examinations without the patient’s consent. So once they say, “we’re done” it’s over. Sending Reese home was the best call. For her and the hospital’s well being.

[@mar-k7104]

Letting her continue to blunder her way through like that was cruel to that couple…

[@yogoo0]

Not really. There is no good way to tell someone they were never pregnant in the first place. And she did explain it basically as well as anyone could have. The medical condition isn't that complex and would require some follow up to ensure proper hormone balance and recovery. But the entire malady can be explained in a few sentences. And when asked directly she told them directly. The body is complex and does strange things. Unfortunately you are not pregnant even though you are showing the signs. There is no baby inside of you. This is called a hysterical pregnancy. This means your body acts like it is pregnant without ever having been pregnant. Just how exactly was this news supposed to make them feel? Cause I don't see any scenario where they are not upset. And of all the pieces of bad news someone is going to need to deliver in a hospital, a miscarriage is pretty common.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

That couple was her learning experience

[@mar-k7104]

@@yogoo0 she got it eventually, but my point was that as soon as dr Charles saw her stuttering and looking so unsure, going on about the mind playing tricks when the couple has no idea what she’s talking about, and when asked to explain after saying it’s complicated, she goes silent for too long, allowing the couples fears to grow and the man to snap at someone to explain, understandably frustrated with how poorly their situation was being explained. She should have walked into the room and said “I’m sorry but there’s no baby” first thing. Instead it was dragged out, and Charles refused to step in. People’s emotions shouldn’t be toyed with like that for the sake of learning moments, she clearly wasn’t ready to give patients that sort of news. Also, you didn’t have to explain what phantom pregnancy is to me, I watched the vid same as u

[@benvw7533]

@@mar-k7104 A hard fact to accept is that great healthcare workers have to do things they aren’t ready for to be ready to do it better next time. It is hard for me to imagine ever being ready to deliver that kind of news. Although I wouldn’t give her a gold star, she did what she could. Every person in any profession learns from their experiences to be better at their job. It isn’t fun, but it is inevitable.

[@natalyguevara3066]

​@Mar-k oh I assume you would've done a better job if it was your first time

[@arsgoetia8164]

My aunt had a phantom pregnancy but it wasn't due to anything related to her emotional state, she had a tumor that was causing it all... Tumour was removed, she went through chemo and problem was solved. Never happened again.

[@L.Spencer]

That's where I thought this was going to go.

[@TinyLittleMuffinofLove]

i hope your aunt is ok and doing well ❤

[@justbaggish]

"She has signs of what is called hysterical pregnancy" "Are you saying my wife is crazy?". 😄

[@WouldntULikeToKnow.]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's a out-of-date and insulting name for the condition. Doctors don't use it now.

[@stansman5461]

​@@WouldntULikeToKnow.Yeah, thank God for that

[@stephenking5852]

“Hysterical” is not exactly a positive word.

[@julianskilton200]

That wasn’t what she said. She gave the medical term then said “You might’ve heard it been referred to as a hysterical pregnancy.” People rarely use medical terms in everyday life, so she tried referencing a common way people that don’t know the term would call it.

[@tamiewert808]

Her husband was so aggressive and creepy! Yikes!!

[@VictorWolf_]

Ikr, that a red flag though, obviously.

[@doctorposting]

tons of nutso patients like this

[@cordingdesert9566]

Imagine your body playing such cruel trick on you.

[@renownedbandanawearer1345]

I understand being nervous about an amnio but “harmful sound waves” is a new one for me. Incredible.

[@janmcguire5268]

It wasn’t new back in the early 80s, when I was pregnant with my first child. It was a newer technology that was generally thought to be safe, but had not yet become routine in every pregnancy. I chose not to have one at that time because it was not yet known for absolutely certain that it was safe. By the time I was pregnant with my second child, five years later, it had become routine and no harmful effects had occurred, so I was happy to have an ultrasound this time, and thrilled to find out the sex of my baby before birth. So it has not always been a sure thing that sonography was safe during pregnancy.

[@Bean_dork]

It's actually a super common thing that people avoid, often times the same ones who don't vaccinate because they think their kids will turn out autistic 🙄

[@AnnSisuLiv]

​@@Bean_dorkYou're trying to compare those 2. 😂

[@theurbanthirdhomestead]

​@@Bean_dork I'm autistic from childhood vaccinations.

[@susieenglish302]

In the UK, a doula is not registered, not medically trained in most cases and often provide inaccurate advice

[@yvettemarshallTWN]

A proper Doula would have advised the lady to get a medical checkup. If they were so wholistic why wouldn’t they care about their baby’s health and safety? I say doctor + doula is a perfect match.

[@CarissaHelmer88]

This is true in the states as well.

[@yvettemarshallTWN]

@@CarissaHelmer88 This situation must have been shocking to her spouse unless he knew all along and also wanted to believe the delusion. Noticed he wasn’t present at the end of the episode to drive his “pregnant” wife home. Wonder where he went?

[@wintersbabyy]

I think it’s the government’s job to license these people, give them some sort of training so that they don’t cause harm to mothers and children. In my country, people use TBAs so we have training sessions for them because asking mothers to visit medical facilities is sometimes not enough. If their mothers/mother-in-laws used doulas, and their friends used doulas they’d also want doulas.

[@ashleydanielson3222]

Doulas help with childbirth. She should have been going to a midwife. TV shows don’t seem to know the difference.

[@lilypudd]

And sometimes there is a true pregnancy but something goes on with the "baby" and it disappears. The body still has the hormones and still thinks its pregnant. I had that. There was a placenta but no baby. Ended up with a "miscarriage". The himan body is spectacular but it is also mysterious in ways we cannot explain.

[@chloepainter4064]

Hysterical pregnancy is such an archaic and awful term for this condition. Even saying someone is having a psychological break is nicer than saying their historic. It’s just a cruel, patronizing word.

[@collegekid8609]

Hi, future LMHC here, and the per the American Psychological Association states that, “hysteria is defined as an emotionally charged state of behavior that seems excessive”, she was NOT having a psychological break, which is defined as “loosing touch with reality due to decline in mental health”. She is not exhibiting symptoms from a mental break. She believed she was pregnant due to physical aspects relating to pregnancy, hysterical pregnancy is rightly defined as she went on emotions NOT science to determine if she was truly pregnant. Her doula could not tell she was not pregnant because she typically doesn’t believe in western medicine to test (hence the no ultrasound speech”. Society believes “hysterical” means “crazy” or “mental”, when it truly just means an extreme case of emotion or behavior.

[@mr.sketser1468]

class dismissed

[@jordanbutterfield3720]

​@collegekid8609 right, the APA also says that hysteria is technically an out of date term, and it's referred to now as conversion disorder. Explaining what hysteria means clinically doesn't change the fact that the root of the word hysteria, womb, was a general way to diagnose women in distress because having a womb meant your health was taken less seriously. If hysterical meant crazy in the general English lexicon for hundreds of years, then that's what the word means. Meanings can change.

[@ec8687]

It’s better than calling her a “nut job” haha

[@AnthyLoneExoria]

It is also called a false pregnancy and they could have used that term.

[@ioanalazar2114]

Never ever call a woman hysterical to her face. That is asking for disaster. There is so much stigma related to those words combined. So many women were mistreated using those words. You can call it phantom pregnancy. It's more humane and you do not put the blame on the woman like this to her face.

[@dancingdevil9965]

Cry about it. All bc you don’t understand definitions.

[@ioanalazar2114]

@@dancingdevil9965 I am not crying. The sickness that she has it's called by different names, phantom pregnancy is another name for it. The last time I checked empathy is very much needed in this field.

[@justalittlealien]

She wasn't blaming her, she just picked the wrong word for the condition. She's new and make a mistake

[@ineedausername9617]

@@dancingdevil9965 hysterical is an outdated and stigmatizing term in the medical field. It actually takes a good understanding of definitions, their history, and context, to see why it needs to be put out of use.

[@MarlynneStruwig-je8qr]

Afraid of facts are u

[@mermaidnott9713]

I'm so sorry to anyone who has had to go through this and really wanted a kid.

[@amberanime]

I dont get this drama. Why it may be sad you where not pregnant when you wanted to be, nothing actualy died or was lost. And you can just get pregnant for real right after. if anything this condition would be a perfect test run to see if your actualy serious about having a kid. If this happend when you where believed to be infertile then I can understand the pain more. However even then we have this lovely process called adoption where kids who need loving parents much more then some x and y cells who yet have to build one, can be adopted into a loving home. Children dont need to come out of your body for them to truly be your children. All that is required is love, commitment and care. If you need kids to be homebred it's an ego thing, not a love or motherhood/fatherhood thing. No pregnancies required.

[@ashleywilson3419]

@@amberanimeno But you thought you were so in a sense you grieve the child you thought existed

[@persephone3309]

​@@amberanimeit might be easier to understand if you've been pregnant before or are a parent. The excitement and anticipation you have for this baby as well as the love. Just to find out it was for nothing. I think anyone would need therapy if they went through that especially since it's a very different type of loss.

[@trendkiller6611]

​@@amberanimeif *you're serious. You + are = "you're"

[@spaRKLES88604]

I feel so bad for her and her husband! I can tell they really wanted a baby. that’s sooo sad. 😔

[@goldnicholas5357]

The same thing happened to me after i had a miscarriage a few months later i thought i was pregnant but after 3 months i went to the hospital and after running test I wasn't pregnant it really broke my heart for days. But God helps us heal faster than we think

[@bellerain381]

Dr. Choi and Dr. Charles are a power team!

[@KeniQilin]

Some people would refer to this condition as 'phantom pregnancy' and I've seen my fair share of those on Dr Phil

[@Inpiron1501]

@Tosha Hall for what reason?

[@KeniQilin]

@@Inpiron1501 that's what I was thinking

[@jedimasterspidermad5173]

​@Tosha Hall why? You trolling or something?

[@KeniQilin]

​@@jedimasterspidermad5173i talked to Ken (fake name, stepmother) about it and she said they might just be messing with me

[@JayAsIAm]

isnt phantom pregnancy more common in women who were recently pregnant

[@rebeksyo]

What a terrible situation for this couple, but it's partially their own fault. She was not receiving the proper healthcare... any OB would've noticed she wasn't pregnant in two seconds. Instead they spent seven months preparing for the baby, making this news that much more devastating.

[@saralisa823]

Exactly I'm all for natural birth but please go to the obgyn and get regular check up when pregnant my women

[@tennilledebysingh5819]

Right, in real life this would have never gone past 4 weeks !

[@ashleydanielson3222]

It was weird that she said she went to a doula. That’s not what doulas are for 😂. She should have been going to a midwife.

[@bevstringer810]

Very sad for couples in real life who experience this. I know myself what it is like to want so much to be pregnant and then when you are, you feel like it's not really real

[@chandraninath3005]

That’s why now Doctors prescribe an early ultrasound scan by 6 or 8 weeks to check the viability and confirm pregnancy.

[@cloudedcolour5329]

and she hadnt been to an OB

[@nimbusshadow-wings]

thats why you tell the father first. alone. present a united front, and the father is there to help, not blindside them both.

[@heathervelasco5159]

I had a hysterical pregnancy it's very upsetting especially when you really want to be pregnant and finding out your not

[@laurakatherine9836]

this happened in my hometown and it was bad press for the obgyn clinic bc they thought the woman was pregnant too

[@theinvisibleme4104]

Just say that "there is no baby" "there was never been one"

[@doctorposting]

do you seriously think that would have made her react any better? lol

[@8bennaboo]

No doula would say 'things are on track for a home birth'. That is outside of the doula scope of practice, they are not medical professionals.

[@ashleydanielson3222]

They should have said midwife. TV show writers don’t know the difference I guess.

[@8bennaboo]

@@ashleydanielson3222 Yeah but any midwife would have palpated the abdomen and listened for fetal heart rate

[@ashleydanielson3222]

@@8bennaboo exactly.

[@jamesongorman8531]

4:53 “I think that would be a mistake, but I’m not gonna stand in your way.” Bro you’re not gonna stand *at all*

[@witch_in_a_wheelchair3050]

I should not be laughing this hard. 🤣😅

[@Dxrk320]

Reminds me of those messed up dad jokes

[@lam8138]

Literally thought the same thing😭

[@ineedhoez]

😂😂😂😂

[@annnottingham2270]

It's thought that Mary Tudor experienced this, as she was old for childbearing and was desperate for a child.

[@jenneli314]

she died at age 42, she wasn't too old to bear children, but you aren't wrong about the hypothesis that she had a hysterical pregnancy

[@auntyharry]

I believe Mary Tudor actually had this happen to her twice in her lifetime. She adored her husband by all accounts, but he was pretty much indifferent to her. She has come to be known as “Bloody Mary”, but actually the historical figures suggest she ordered the executions of way less people than Harry VIII or Elizabeth I. There you go……information no one asked for or wanted! 😅

[@annafirth6738]

She had some other condition that caused it, I think.

[@mirnacudiczgela1963]

​@@annafirth6738She might have had ovarian cancer, it is supposed.

[@Skyebright1]

Yeah she had a hysterical pregnancy and it’s thought uterine cancer as well

[@wiltyner101]

As an extreme skier and loving as much as she did. I can understand that once your not able to do that you are desperate to find something to fill that gap

[@eja9539]

A guy in a wheelchair saying I’m not going to “stand in your way .” He meant it in a bit literal and figurative way.

[@by_grace_alone1334]

Enormous fallacy in the first 10 seconds. A doula would NEVER take you blood pressure or clear you for homebirth. A doula is NOT a medical birth attendant. That would be a midwife. A doula is for comfort support (emotional or physical) only. This screams "let's make homebirthers look stupid" 😠

[@Mandara1847]

Which they are, to be frank.

[@Angela-ot7es]

I'd say that's definitely telling her she's not pregnant.

[@marybell2897]

We need to stop calling it "Hysterical Pregnancy."

[@stansman5461]

I feel like they used it for this show to show a bad handling of the situation. I know that the wider medical community doesn't use this term anymore.

[@mrsquietmusic6413]

She was "pregnant" for 7 months before checking to see the baby with ultrasound???🤔

[@casseyenegrejo5577]

she has explained it that she was scared for the ultrasound effects.. Something to do with waves..

[@LaineMann]

@@casseyenegrejo5577scared. Or knew there wasn’t a baby.

[@MMAengineer]

1:11 isnt this the drift king from The Fast and The Furious - Tokyo Drift?

[@smw616]

yes

[@felinemocha1995]

A genuine question here - if you had a positive pregnancy test would you not go to a dr asap to get an ultrasound ? Or is it too early.

[@fonjadidi]

They do one at about 7 weeks otherwise they might not see anything

[@crystalmetric4706]

If there are no significant risk factors, most places don't want to see you until 12 weeks. The rate of miscarriage in the first few weeks is very high (like, starts at 40% and gradually decreases every week), and most miscarriages are not life-threatening. You can't typically detect a pulse until around 6-7 weeks, and even then, if you don't see one on an untrasound, it doesn't necessarily mean the pregnancy isn't viable.

[@teregutierrez2702]

I wasn’t asked to be seen until I was 8 weeks pregnant because that’s when you can actually find the heartbeat.

[@bridgetgress]

Once you think you are pregnant, a lot of hospitals will tell you to go get “proof of pregnancy” by getting a pregnancy test at a women’s clinic, and then the doctor will schedule you for an intake around 10 weeks. A lot of women don’t know they are pregnant until at least about 5 weeks. You would probably have your first ultrasound between 14-16 weeks, but the important anatomy ultrasound happens around 20 weeks.

[@CasperV1982]

Yes I would

[@nerdydrawer7265]

They really need to change the general term for that, because that does not help an in shock woman who is finding out she actually isn't pregnant

[@florencia-es.simple]

7 months pregnant and never did exams ? Come on 😂

[@Rat_Queen86]

It’s because she knew she wasn’t pregnant

[@PatriciaRod]

Esa niña es demasiado sensible para ser una psiquiatra...

[@ellesandralady8596]

If pregnancy tests, likely twice, are positive, best to check with a doctor just to be safe

[@angieakasara]

I have a feeling that she knew that she was not actually pregnant. In hindsight it is consistent with actions of going to doula instead of an OB and refusing ultrasounds.

[@cloudedcolour5329]

not really, I went with midwives and a doula because I didnt want to deal with an OB and being treated as a medical product instead of a human

[@hypnoteapot]

​@@cloudedcolour5329 but your midwife probably monitored the baby's heartbeat and position in some way... Her being seven months along and no one has ever heard the heartbeat is really weird.

[@cloudedcolour5329]

@@hypnoteapot a midwife can do medical investigations, a doula cant

[@Mrsjengood11]

So no OB appts at all? No OB doc feeling the baby inside her? No checking the heartbeat

[@yvettemarshallTWN]

😳 This is weird! Like the doctor said, the lady knew inside but she didn’t want to face her anxiety, her truth outside. What woman would not back up the pregnancy store test with an actual medical visit especially on her first pregnancy? Who would wait months? True that ignoring a psychological problem, suppressing it will make it come out some other way. Wow, sorry for the couple’s loss! ☮️ Sorry for anyone facing such a tough situation.

[@jessekiernan7142]

Animals can go through this as well. It can even make the “mothers” lactate. I had a cat (that had never had her own kittens) start lactating for a litter of foster kittens. But things turned out better for her I guess because she actually got to experience being a mother.

[@ikillu2gaming30]

I looked like that, but found out it was a bunch of cysts and ovarian cancer

[@learninghealingmentoringgr5578]

🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@amisedai942]

I thought i was pregnant at 36. All the symptoms but the tests kept coming back negative. It went on for nearly 5 months when the doc finally took me serious enough to take bloods and it turned out to be early menopause. It was crazy though, no periods, sick every day just nutso😂

[@littlemrs.fabulous9432]

It's quite a heartbreaking thing to go through 😢 I went through a miscarriage...I got pregnant on purpose having all the wants and dreams of a new parent. The second we had sex I knew I was pregnant and I was so happy and overjoyed and then it was gone and it hurt so badly I screamed and I cried and I hated the world.

[@Lunaxire]

~hugs~ Lord help you go further than you let yourself grow. In the name of Yahoshua, selah. Don't know why those words came to mind. I hope you heal from this in all ways, and if Father will it, to bless you with a baby. In the name of Yahoshua, selah. You are loved. Never forget.

[@littlemrs.fabulous9432]

@@Lunaxire thank you your words are so kind. I currently now have a two year old daughter. I had a very difficult pregnancy that she will be my one and only baby. She is such a gift, selah means forever

[@littlemrs.fabulous9432]

@@Lunaxire yahoshua means deliverance from god

[@MessianicMermaid]

@@littlemrs.fabulous9432 It's also Jesus' name in Hebrew. Yeshua.

[@foxnight5872]

Birth control caused 2 chemical pregnancies in my late teens. Wasn’t even SA. Had full on placenta come out of me while working a night shift. What do the doctors suggest, just try another form of birth control so I do, same thing happens, they suggest another birth control…. At that point I was done with birth control, the effects were horrible. I gained 30 pounds and was constantly depressed, sick constantly. Ended up having cervical cancer and gestational trophoblastic neoplasia at 29yrs old. After the doctors kept trying to get me on birth control. I refused. They said i had to, told me I wouldn’t be able to conceive any ways…. I went for my cancer screening after multiple surgeries…. Guess what I’m actually pregnant. Baby is healthy.. almost 6months!

[@annafirth6738]

Congratulations, I hope it's still all going well 😊

[@ineedhoez]

Girl... your dna is jacked. Hope you screened. If I had cancer, I would NEVER risk passing my dna on to a child.

[@JP2GiannaT]

I've never heard of that happening, that's INSANE. Wow. (I believe you, I just thought I'd heard all the birth control horror stories out there).

[@منبو-و1ز]

واضح تعاملهم مع المرضى تعامل جميل عكس لبعض عندنا مو ملائكه رحمه ملائكه شر مو فاضين من المكياج والمناكير وسوالف يتعاملون مع المرض بقسوة لكن ماعمم في ناس كويسة

[@novatare]

I'm getting hella déjà vu. Wasn't this uploaded once before?

[@starii.centaurii]

it was, the original mustve been deleted due to copyright so this is a reupload

[@GosieKin]

​​@@starii.centaurii and maybe for more adverts. I personally, am getting one every other minute.

[@nickisnyder3450]

What dula would work with a woman without a basic pregnancy test confirming the pregnancy ?

[@ashleydanielson3222]

According to the comments, a positive pregnancy test is part of the condition. She should have been working with a midwife anyway since doulas aren’t medical professionals.

[@tkmorrison6404]

I was nervous watching this. But my baby has been kicking the crap out of me so I think I'm good. Lol

[@星空-i1k]

Omg, me too.I got anxiety from watching this. Glad my baby's kicking too😂

[@TinyLittleMuffinofLove]

congratulations mommies!!! 🎉🎉🎉

[@KS04304]

0:30 Ugh…doulas are wonderful supports for pregnant and new mothers, but they are not medical professionals. Doctors or midwives are the only ones qualified to be giving medical care to pregnant women.

[@Sniperboy5551]

It’s basically mind over matter, probably the same reason that explains the placebo effect.

[@rebeccamonteforte8864]

So she had no period. Gained a ton of weight. Had nausea felt a baby move but isn’t PREGANT?

[@eeveeongirl]

Correct, you have to remember that all things related to pregnancy are the result of hormone triggers. Feeling the baby move is the one that likely was more in her own head but could have just been muscles twitching. The rest though is just how the body reacts to its own chemical signals. The brain is a very powerful thing

[@colossusequinox5388]

You know, I would probably be the worst doctor in the world not because of my skills, not because of my low level knowledge of medical science. But because my body would rather run off and shut down than tell people the bad news because of their reactions

[@hypnoteapot]

How can anyone reach seven months without ever having seen or heard the baby? Even if she's super against ultrasounds or any sort of modern equipment, doesn't her midwife use this trompet like instrument that would allow her to monitor the baby's heartbeat? Especially since the baby, like, doesn't ever move?

[@marcymathieu4463]

This is more common in animals I had a dog who went through this . I did not breed her this particular cycle but she got bigger and she would go into my daughters room and I caught her bringing stuffed animals into her crate and wagging her tail , she was acting as herself a proud momma it broke my heart but then a week later her stomach went down and she finally started acting normal again .

[@toffeefeathers]

The hat kiss on the head caught me so off guard with warm feelings, unexpectedly wholesome

[@heidip2307]

Letting that young girl. tell them somethinglike that was poor judgment on that so called doctor

[@India.H]

Every doctor has a first. A first time telling patients bad news, a first time telling family things won't go well, a first time losing a patient. Do you think they all go well? Also, "young girl"? She's 26 and a doctor.

[@goldenshoelaces]

Poor woman. Alll the things that must have been in her head. I cant wven imagine

[@pada443]

Dr. Charles saying "I'm not going to stand in your way" while in a wheelchair was just asking for a rude comeback from the husband

[@MonkeyKing200BC]

I can’t anymore with this show🤣🤣🤣 where did they even come up with this

[@SweetSniper1424]

seeing all of the comments that this is real and people get real positive tests and then this happens to them is so terrifying to me

[@AndrewandShelbyNagy]

The mention of a doula almost seems reminiscent of the Kaitlyn Braun case. Because confirming a pregnancy is not a doula's job, the fact that a doula was her only health care provider was a huge red flag.

[@rambofan334]

"I'm not gonna stand in your way." Poor choice of words.

[@krystal2373]

In a wheelchair?

[@luniers4629]

it's a bit different from this, but after my mom gave birth to my brother, her body thought it was still pregnant months after his birth. The body is really strange.

[@heathergingrich6170]

I had a pituitary tumor, this caused my body think it was pregnant, swollen abdomen and milk production...

[@Blurufoodaz]

They could have broke the news to her husband first and then asked him for the best way to break it to her

[@apollos_puffytail]

That wouldn’t be possible as it would be a major privacy breach. Drs cannot disclose medical information about a patient with anyone, including their spouse, unless the patient was in someway incapacitated.

[@Blurufoodaz]

@@apollos_puffytail lol are you a doc? Better don’t assume things bcos in medical field speaking to patient’s attender and taking attender’s consent for any procedure on patient’s behalf is of prime importance

[@DanDCool]

4:41 should have been mad but k

[@ymyr1]

I think I have read that Queen (“Bloody”) Mary also had a few phantom pregnancies.

[@ChilledTarnished]

He said it himself, he wasn't going to "stand" in his way.

[@danibayley6091]

I thought about this yesterday, hysterical pregnancy, and then voila in my timeline

[@fonjadidi]

Protecting your baby from ultrasound lol boy do I have news for you!! There are xrays everywhere you go that's part of life and xrays are worse than sound

[@NeCoruption]

My mom had a massive pregnant looking stomach but her tubes were tied when she had me. She passed away a few days later.. never got closure 😞

[@stevieray8993]

Sorry to hear that… hope you don’t blame yourself

[@funnatopia704]

Damn. That’s a good actress right there.

[@Fnndjkvlf]

Dr Reese should’ve practiced with Dr Charles before telling the patient. Appearing confident gives the impression of confidence. And the doctor did not appear confident.

[@SheilaRough]

The 80s show Northern exposure, one of the characters had frequent phantom pregnancies, side effect of when she liked a guy. When she actually was pregnant, she told her husband that one of the phantom buns were bound to take hold for real sometime

[@gasnotthearco]

they don’t end up putting her under anesthesia, just let her go. she’s pretty calm when they show her waiting outside the hospital, and this lady doctor walks up to her to apologize. the patient then explains that she was an extreme skier before they moved, which she really loved doing. the doctor theorizes that she may have become pregnant to replace that important thing she lost, which was skiing

[@DragonGoddess18]

I forget, is the term these days "phantom pregnancy" or "hysterical pregnancy"?

[@tobysceptiman7058]

Both are valid

[@DragonGoddess18]

@tobysceptiman7058 Okay, I didn't know for sure which one was the more polite one or even just the updated one

[@achaudhari101]

I said this before but I’ll say it again: It’s amazing (In a sad way) that a family has two daughters and neither one of them has a baby via miscarriage and a hysterical pregnancy.

[@ally6233]

What do you mean

[@achaudhari101]

@@ally6233 It’s like a curse for some sad reason.

[@eeveeongirl]

​@Alex Chaudhari technically her sister did have the miscarriage after an amniocentesis, a procedure that involves taking a sample of amniotic fluid from the womb usually for genetic testing. While very very low, it does run the risk of miscarriage (less than 1%). Typically though such a procedure is only done in cases that there is concern for trisomy 13, 18, or 21 and even then it's not done often any more since newer blood tests have been developed that are nearly 100% accurate that only involve taking a blood sample from the mother.

[@haileythurston6280]

​@ally6233 They're referring to this woman's sister. The family had two daughters, one (this one) had a hysterical pregnancy and the other sister had a miscarriage. So neither daughter could have their own kids.

[@edenleave2054]

To all the Internet geniuses and therapists, she only said hysteria as a way of using a common term they may have heard of, truth is no one’s heard of that so that was her mistake

[@apollovvv]

If this ever happened to me I'd be so happy. I never want to be pregnant