Tesla Gen3 Wall Connector Explained

[@random_works]

The way you present this information is so nice and almost soothing in a way. Quality content!

[@radicalradzik]

Good information and comparison. Worth mentioning that energy storage is important to help with TOU pricing, as well as addressing home energy needs when the sun goes down. Thank you

[@supertesla19]

I just ordered mine today. I’ve been charging on my dryer outlet but it’s a pain because I can’t close the door to my laundry room. Which is on a 30amp breaker so I’ll see a big difference from 23mi/hr to 44mi/hr

[@thesonofwatt]

I want those "other Tesla products" to be a load monitoring device. Installed at the main electrical panel, it would monitor current and only allow the charger to draw power when enough was available.

[@mortchad]

Great rundown. Thnx for putting this together!

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

Really awesome ideas, Matthew! I would love to program real stop and start times the PG&E crazy schedules. Tesla lets you do a single start time for the entire week and a weekday or a seven day depart time, to condition the cabin when you’re ready to leave for work.

[@drtyjrze]

I think this will be beneficial if you have the solar/power wall setup. Other than that every other wireless feature can be done via an app when your car is connected. If the battery is going to be larger on the cyber truck, you would think decreasing the potential max amps will be an issue.

[@EveryAmp]

It's a more than ample charge rates for daily charging. It will always be full by the time you wake up in the morning.

[@peterlethbridge7859]

Our single phase input into the home is limited to 100amps. when (in winter) we are charging 2 cars and the powerwalls (for cheap rate electric) we are getting very close to the 100amp limit. It would be good for the wall connector to monitor this limit and regulate the charge current to ensure this isn't breached. All of the functionality is available in the Zappi charger, but I'd rather it be available in the Tesla connector.

[@EveryAmp]

100A service here as well. My Powerwall gateway already knows what's coming into and out of the house, so it sure would be nice if it could talk to wall connectors as well!

[@justonpreble3119]

I’m buying the GEN 3 soon. Just wish the unit had a manual WiFi shut off switch. Had a cool Tesla wall plate to protect the white walls from getting grimy over time from the black cord hanging on the wall. 24’ would be better like the GEN 2 had to reach our other vehicle in the garage.

[@roger1818]

Another feature for Wifi would be to allow you to program when you want each car fully charged. First of all it is better for the batteries to not be kept fully charged very long,so the closer it finishes charging to your departure time, the better. Also if one car needs more change than the other, the charging rates can be balanced so that both vehicles will be ready at the right time (rather than splitting the power evenly).

[@NaumanBandey]

Tesla’s have a feature called “Scheduled Departure” previously known as “Smart Preconditioning,” will prepare a Tesla’s battery state of charge for a specific time of departure each day. By enabling the ability to set a departure time by day of the week, Tesla owners can better control when a vehicle reaches charge completion, thereby timing it close to their actual departure time. An added benefit to being able to end charging at a specified time is cost savings.

[@GregHassler]

18' cable is definitely on the short side, a Model 3 is 15 feet long. Won't really be able to mount on a wall in front of the car, must be on a side wall, rear wall, or back in. At ~230v the 6' extra length wouldn't make a difference for the wire size, the wire is smaller strictly because of the 48 amp limit. Glad to see WiFi, that was definitely a missing feature. Should be able to integrate with solar / powerwall setups to stop the car from charging when grid power is down to save the powerwall for home usage.

[@GregHassler]

@BL Meyer I assume cost savings

[@MarcoPon]

Nice and to the point video as usual! Hopefully we'll get a Tesla WiFi current clamp of sort too, to monitor the house energy use and regulate the max charging power of the Wall Connector in real time. I'm thinking about houses/chalets with very low power circuit (even only 3kW), which is common in some zone of Europe.

[@yoreljm]

This was a great video

[@brenttaylor7971]

Great video. I ordered the new Gen3 connector to replace the original destination charger at my business. By doing so I hope to be able to see when and how much it’s being used.

[@EveryAmp]

Nice. Love to see businesses offering charging to customers. I'd do the same.

[@DonBurke1]

Thank you for this informative video. Does a Gen-3 wall connector track usage over time? If so, how is that data available and how long is it kept?

[@mariusv.8965]

I can hear jerryrigeverything say: "glass is glass" when that front gets shattered :-p

[@tedbaxter5234]

Never fear! The glass is bullet proof - ummm...like the cyber truck?

[@pbbb07]

There are also glass windows in the garage where most chargers will be installed. I don’t see people worry about those breaking or scratching.

[@jamesduffy8669]

How does this charger handle solar panel energy

[@xoukilong]

very informative. thank you

[@andregoud7700]

If the wifi charger can save the amount of KW it used to charge that will be great. So we can see what power we use for the car and the rest for our house.

[@rwdplz1]

The lower max charge rate and thinner, shorter cord confirm this is just a cost savings design (but still sold at the old price)

[@EveryAmp]

Plus WiFi

[@carperdiem8754]

Just to be clear, you can now use wifi to load share VS having to use the data cable?

[@EveryAmp]

That's what the instructions say, but I don't have two of these to confirm.

[@GerardPinzone]

My electric company provides a rebate for chargers with WiFi. The WiFi requirement is so they can monitor your usage. Since this just came out, it's not going to be eligible, but it might in the future. Can this be installed outdoors?

[@flamingemu69]

Yes it can.

[@bradgaeth]

This could be the platform to solve the small, 3-6 unit condo building problem. Could the Gen3 report on kWh usage and restrict charging to a specific Tesla?

[@EveryAmp]

Hmm. It's definitely capable of both features. I hope they add them.

[@travisr70]

Thank you

[@michelepregliasco744]

Hallo, my compliments. Do you know why gen3 wall connector there isn't in Italy or Europe ? It work with Tesla app ?

[@EveryAmp]

Hi, sorry, we don't have any information about that.

[@ReynoldsGroupRadio]

Hey man question and hoping you can help. I had this Gen 3 installed and it's working fine. It took a while, but I think I finally got it connected to WiFi. Now what? How do I monitor the Gen 3? In the Tesla App? Some other place? Or is this something different? I do not see anything anywhere to actually use the WiFi function of this Gen 3. Thanks.

[@EveryAmp]

Looks like they've still not rolled out any of those features yet. This page still shows firmware and commissioning only: www.tesla.com/support/installation-manuals-wall-connector

[@alexs3352]

So, right now...December 2020, there’s no extra functionality for the charger other than (after initial setup) the wall charger allows charge from the breaker box through to the car, and all controls for charging are through the cars Tesla app

[@xoukilong]

$60.. that's 2 months of charging my car

[@srenheilmann1063]

Does it come with DC residual current protection? The old gen2 did not unfortunately.

[@EveryAmp]

I've not found anything to confirm one way or the other.

[@jimmchale7406]

Is it possible to remove charging cable? Would like to leave unit in garage and feed cable in through 1/2 hole in wall with just plug outside in a holster

[@EveryAmp]

I don't see any photos in the Gen3 manual that show the cable connections, but you could definitely remove the cable on the Gen2 and I'd be really surprised if they made it impossible on the Gen3.

[@toddbertram1]

you said the car uses gps to determine were your charging at is there a way to get the kw you gained at different locations from the car

[@EveryAmp]

If you go into your account from your PC, under account history there's a history of all Supercharging and cost\kwh use

[@Slammedcivic88]

Implement something that logs the vin of the vehicle and how much energy is used. Would be good for say a work application where multiple people may use the charger(s) and company wants people to cover the electricity costs. Also to have an allow list of vins to stop unauthorized use?

[@tedbaxter5234]

Yes! I want the power company to have more control of my life! Right on!

[@EveryAmp]

If we want to have more renewables on the grid and more EVs, utilities need to be able to manage load. Mass control of EV charging could go a long way towards helping that.

[@TeslaDo_d]

My power company pays me $20 per year to control my thermostat on about 3-5 high demand days. When heat and humidity are predicted to be very high, they send me an e-mail the day before explaining their intentions. I am on "time of use" billing and I own solar panels, so my panels are more than enough to supply my home on 'high demand' days due to 'abundant sunshine' creating the demand. The power company takes control of my thermostat an hour before the 'super peak billing rate' begins and then they chill my house 3 degrees cooler than our scheduled setting. When the 'super peak billing rate' starts, the power company sets my thermostat 3 degrees above our scheduled temperature setting, which allows the house to slowly warm up and basically shuts off the central air. We have never experienced discomfort and there was only 1 occasion where the temperature in the house reached the 3 degree above point, but the 'demand period' ended within 30 minutes afterward anyway, and the thermostat returned to it's regular programming. So what happens is this: the power company successfully shifts my home's load to a short 1 hour time frame prior to the 'super peak billing rate' time. Then they return the thermostat to it's regular schedule afterwards. This saves me a few dollars each time, because I avoid the usage during the 'super peak billing rate' while also over producing solar even more than usual and receiving a bigger 'net metered' credit on my utility bill.

[@newzealandfortrump]

You never 'make' money with the power companies ... they just make you an offer to pay them less as an incentive when it suits their benefit!!

[@EveryAmp]

It depends on the area. We can actually get a check here at the end of the year, though that may change soon.

[@pauldean7690]

If I hear another "AND"

[@EveryAmp]

And then what?

[@awo1fman]

Gen3 is a gigantic step backward. Not only is it much slower and more fragile, exactly none of its functionality is needed because it already exists (although unused) in the app and the car. And how can you possibly say setup is easier when it *adds* setup steps? The old versions only needed the wires hooked up and you're done. (Yes, there are some DIP switches if you have a nonstandard supply situation or want to only allow Teslas to charge, but they are few and set-and-forget.) The new HPWC (actually more of a MPWC) is proof positive that Tesla is turning into just another greedy carmaker, finding ways to build in obsolescence so they can keep selling you the same thing over and over. Anything that has firmware will become unsupported and obsolete at some point, while the older HPWCs will work fine forever. (Unless Tesla makes the dick move of making the vehicles stop allowing charging on them, but even then they will work with other EVs.) Then there's the fact that the half-speed charging will force people to rely on $$$ paid supercharging more often when they don't have time to wait at home for charging to complete. Meanwhile, Tesla is refusing to upgrade my car to HW3 computer and MCU2. I've paid for FSD, so I understand they want to drag their feet on the HW3 computer because they won't make any more money on it, but why are they refusing the MCU2 when that would be $$$$ out of my pocket and into theirs? I had to wait 8 months for the infamous yellow screen border "fix". They removed my screen protector which cost me money, I can still see the yellow even though it's faint, and am I supposed to believe this will be permanent? I guess they expect me to be happy to wait until long after everybody on the planet with cars a few weeks newer than mine has the latest software features to be able to see them on my car. No, Elon, I'm *not* happy about this. You should be upgrading all the upgradeable cars NOW, not later. Bottom line: the cars have had a charge scheduling feature (however half-assed, but it's obviously just a matter of a few lines of code) for years, load balancing is already a thing without putting unnecessary electronics in the HPWC, and every other "feature" mentioned about the new HPWC can be better handled by the car and the app. Remember TVs with built-in VCRs or DVDs? How when the player quit working it was annoying to have a TV way more massive than necessary and still have to hook up an external player? What we have here is something with deliberately unnecessary electronics that has the sole purpose of pushing you to buy a new one when this one either breaks down or is made artificially obsolete.

[@EveryAmp]

Wow. I disagree with several points, but I appreciate the passion.

[@awo1fman]

@@EveryAmp A lot of people disagree with reality these days.