Tesla Model S Plaid Nürburgring Lap Record: EVERYTHING You Need to Know

[@pinuz010]

The little box on the bottom right near the Tesla card is a fire extinguisher system activation button by Lifeline. The top right number on the Motec dash is the battery temperature.

[@MT-eb2dx]

There is no record without Misha dissecting it. Congrats Tesla.

[@ajbucks]

Very cool to see a totally stock car but better tires would have shaved off a few seconds.

[@matteocomelli9587]

@@ajbucks yeah, 4S's are not great for the track, almost every other record setting car used Cup 2's or P Zero Corsa/Trofeo

[@3gsmotorsport]

We need petrol cars to record no electric 🚗👍👋☕️👌👊🏽well done👍

[@ConnectingODots]

My guess is he coasted to avoid THE BRAKES overheating. Stock brakes and tires (without even a factory track package) should be the immediate bottleneck for the car's performance. Another indicator of this is the suggestion of non-factory attempts with wings etc - upgrading battery cooling is hard, swapping to carbon brakes is easy

[@matteocomelli9587]

@@ConnectingODots battery cooling on the plaid is great, zero issues as of today even when it's very hot and you do repeated launches over and over, it handled pikes peak like a champ! But yeah, he was coasting to keep the brakes fron overheating and fading. I think the Plaid with 6 piston carboceramics, cup 2 tyres and top speed unlocked to 322 could shave off 8/10 seconds easy and get a 7:20/7:22

[@AlbertLamarque]

I tend not to believe any track record before acknowledged by local apex experts. Well done Tesla. Also, as I commented forever ago, charging infrastructure is still abysmal at the ring. Thank you for pointing it out again. Completely on board with all your suggestions. Thanks Misha. You are doing the lap timing God's work.

[@smartelectriccar]

Tesla has super chargers at the ring. Right next to the start!

[@AlbertLamarque]

@@smartelectriccar thank you for pointing that out. Given the age of my comment it is very regrettable that the nearest rapid chargers for non Teslas are in Mendig and rest stop elztal. At least it's not Koblenz anymore.

[@glord49]

Tesla does not have a PR department according to Jonny Lieberman. So don’t expect to much info.

[@vtallus1]

lol, I've seen more info from Sebastian Vittel

[@lollypop9580]

Tesla should speak with Audi... 😁

[@alanmay7929]

The tesla trolls are already flooding internet with misinformations

[@Leshic2]

Haha.. The official PR Department is Elon's Twitter. Ha.

[@magnom3922]

@@alanmay7929 lol

[@cmayorbal]

13:07 I completely agree on that, we need a distinction between car types also for EVs, because I don't think a 100k or 200k saloon car can compete against a 2M+ euro nevera... is just like comparing a panamera with a mclaren senna, very different types of cars, very different targets.

[@TraceurRobitza]

agree on that. Really curious now for the future roadster. I think they also tested those stripped out plaid's for "Roadster reasons".

[@b0nz1official]

The Panamera is a luxury sedan from a company with a racing hertiage. The Nevara and Senna are low volume million dollar hypercars for collectors. But what exactly is the point of a 4 door family sedan with 1000+hp?

[@plektosgaming]

Also, the exact tire and suspension setup. "Direct from factory" means absolutely nothing if it is a special one-off model made BY the factory. Which I can almost guarantee it was, just based on the extra tech and safety gear, alone. A racing spec Tesla S with a roll cage and other modifications "direct from factory" is not exactly what you and I can buy at the store tomorrow. Impressive, yes. But also, yes, there needs to be classes and categories made instead of all electrics being lumped together.

[@alanmay7929]

Nonsense, they actually compete, it doesn't matter the price, the rimac is a very limited production vehicle with very premium materials just like maclaren, panamera......

[@alanmay7929]

@@b0nz1official and that tesla with 1020hp has a laughable upcoming 200mph top speed

[@jamisonz3365]

I think it's really hard to make an all electric car to go fast around tracks? This over 1000 HP plaid is slower than the 635 HP M5 CS sport auto time. That was a huge gap let alone the drama.

[@daniel_960_]

Better brakes and aero will definitely improve the time quite a bit. But yeah, not much you can do about the weight.

[@arapaimagold8088]

Well, they come with big wing at the trunk. And I believe it has 6 pots front calipers. Maybe they should working on brake cooling vents in the next models.

[@louiecarrigan821]

@@arapaimagold8088 which car comes with a big wing?

[@huzygaming7216]

@@arapaimagold8088 model S PLAID doesn't have a big wing, useless brakes for track and low downforce. PS4S tires ain't gonna cut it for the ring with that power and weight.

[@b0nz1official]

Production cars, yes. Low volume EV hypercars or purpose built race cars could quite easily beat the Plaid time.

[@ErikB750]

Misha, always ready for a litmus test of the lap record attempt, followed by a thoroughly, in depth analysis later on. It’s a go says Misha, Tesla is the new winner. Thank you once more for the great factual content.

[@flwi]

Excellent analysis. Especially regarding the German car manufacturers and their charging infrastructure. I'm really glad Tesla exists - I think without them our cars manufacturers would still be in deep hibernation.

[@pgergo91]

2017 Honda Civic type-R: 7:43. 320hp fwd.. This 1000 hp Plaid record is a joke…

[@xBIGMUSCLEx]

You can't cheat physics. The car weighs 5000 pounds. There's more to a fast lap times than just horsepower numbers.

[@artansadiki3244]

@@xBIGMUSCLEx facts.

[@nonameyet2205]

The fact that the civic is also a practical 4 door family hatch that you can buy for 35k makes the plaid record seems very underwhelming

[@rkan2]

Civic has very good time for the money.

[@xBIGMUSCLEx]

@@SuperGeronimo999 Plaid weighs 4800 pounds. Shave 800 pounds from the plaid, put stickier tires, better brakes and better cooling, and you will have a Plaid that is also 10 secs faster. The plaid isn't setup for a track, its 5-seater sedan with soft suspension.

[@rj8u]

Can we just appreciate how the record was set on a production Tesla model S Plaid with the Yoke steering wheel 🚀👍👍.

[@alpher3512]

The yoke is a joke for me. Not really practical

[@mgcharoudin]

I like the yoke

[@vfr492]

Maybe that's the best yoke?

[@Anonym-dx2tp]

@@alpher3512 Experience it and then talk. If we would all follow that rule life would be better.

[@thomasbummer4361]

@@Anonym-dx2tp I bet its rly practical when initiiating a drift... LOL (and no I dont have to experience it first to know how its gonna be)

[@thepetrolman4879]

07:30 with over 1000hp is just embarassing.

[@smartelectriccar]

Embarrassing to Porsche with only 800 hp?

[@origaminefretami3480]

​@@smartelectriccar Porsches Panamera Turbo S was faster with 400hp less. Plaid is just a boat

[@ericship8383]

@@origaminefretami3480 actually even more than 400 hp plaids have been dyno to 1200 hp so 600 hp

[@thepetrolman4879]

@@smartelectriccar that wasn't smart, kid.

[@sooofancier]

Seeing this family/sport saloon with a record of Sub 7.30 is actually insane, despite the fact it is heavy and fat. Well done Tesla. But I reckon your record will be taken by Rimac Nevera soon...

[@bernhard.k]

Not bad, but don't forget 1020 hp to the wheels. The areodynamics from Teslacars is good for efficiency and the quartermile but very bad on the tracks. And the weight is still too high. Model 3 P with 600 hp and 1700 kg will be the way better car, price to Performance wise.

[@bernhard.k]

@@joei4ever M5 CS has less power less weight, but a better lap time (1.29.57) Huge credits for Christian Gebhard but he self says a professional driver with more time in the car perform a few seconds better then him. A 7.25 is very likely possible if BMW want to set a laptime.

[@Anonym-dx2tp]

The Rimac costs 2 Million Euros, only 150 are being produced and has 2 seats. Nothing can beat Tesla’s price to performance ratio (for now) it’s unbeatable not to forget it has 5 seats and a huge Trunk and Frunk and you can daily it. Not trying to talk Rimac down, but I think you guys get my point.

[@bernhard.k]

@@Anonym-dx2tp EV wise, yes. But not compare with ICE cars on the track. And don't forget, Rimac is a tiny Company. If they produce 1000 or more pieces, the price would go massive down. You can't compare it. I am happy with all new good cars.

[@dark_memer42]

@@bernhard.k Do we know if Rimac technology is sufficient enough to let them complete a single flying lap. If i remember correctly early Tesla's could not do this due to heating issues.

[@rashido]

hope one day misha will have someone bring their plaid and have it driven by him to see how it is, would be a great youtube vid too :P

[@bernhard.k]

Slower then i have thought. Weight does matter, with a horseload of Power you can't ignore the laws of physics.

[@mgcharoudin]

Let's call it "realistic"!

[@GoldenCroc]

Then you didnt read the spec sheet well enough, the numbers were always going to give a time like this. I guessed 7.30-7.35 a few weeks ago, wasnt rocket science.

[@derbigpr500]

@@GoldenCroc Judging how the Panamera Turbo S or the GT63 AMG are heavier than the Tesla, physically larger than the Tesla, AND have roughly 400hp less than the Tesla, yet are quicker around Nurburgring, says a lot about it.

[@huzygaming7216]

@@derbigpr500 yup, says that brakes and tires are very important, especially with that power.

[@GoldenCroc]

@@derbigpr500 Are they heavier though? Cant be more than marginally in the real world if that is the case. I think the time is good enough, we are well into dimishing returns here, arguing about 10 seconds or even less seems pointless to me, its not a race car.

[@loonytoon8836]

Whatever brand was mounted, as a Conti employee I feel extremely sorry for the poor tires. Screeching for mercy in literally every corner.

[@pistonburner6448]

That's because that barge is so overweight

[@smartelectriccar]

@@pistonburner6448 and yet it’s faster than the even heavier Porsche Taycan… Tesla beat Porsche full stop

[@paulpark1170]

The only reason you are hearing the tire noise so much is because the engine is so quiet. ICE cars drown it out with all the combustion antics.

[@lancetruong4957]

That because is not ideal tires for track (stock tires). Just imagine with track package and OTA update top speed 200 mph.

[@pistonburner6448]

​@@paulpark1170 No they don't. Well, the sportiest cars when pushing on track make some awesome engine noise, but first of all it doesn't drown our tire squealing (what a stupid thing to even think), and second of all overall ICE engines in normal use are super quiet. So much so that so many car manufacturers have to put fake engine sounds playing through the speakers into their ICE cars, and for example Rolls Royce found that their cars got too uncomfortably quiet and had to reduce the noise insulation in certain ways to get noise levels back up so that the car doesn't feel unnatural and uncomfortable. Also for example when Auto Motor und Sport tested four different versions of the X3: gasoline, diesel, gasoline-electric PHEV and pure EV it was _not_ the EV that was the quietest! The EV I owned was nowhere near as quiet as the bottom-of-the-range BMW I then rented for a few months. Same with Tesla: it's nowhere nearly a car that can be said to be one of the quietest, even of far cheaper classes. I wouldn't be surprised if a base Mercedes C-Class diesel is quieter than all Teslas, at least with the optional added sound insulation package, with which it's still a small fraction of the price of a flagship Tesla. An E-Class certainly is far quieter. Don't believe the propaganda that cultist websites, blogs, and also commercial 'car testers' spew. Remember that bloggers, you tubers, car magazines get PAID to advertise car manufacturers' products. Tesla bloggers probably all make money off Tesla's skeevy Multi-Level-Marketing scheme of customer referrals, and also most own stock. Don't believe everything you hear, and don't get too attached to false prophecies spread by evangelists.

[@xXAlmdudlerXx]

I really doubt the car was stock considering the absolutely shitty brakes the stock car has.

[@freakattack9616]

It wasn't stock. Makes the time even more unimpressive 😂

[@argus8888]

Just glad that Misha is giving his assessment. Would be wonderful if he could interview Unplugged Performance at NBR and keep us posted.

[@paskowitz]

AMG GT 63 S Is at 7:23... Tesla has a ways to go if it wants the top sedan spot.

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

wings, tires, brakes, and full power unlock will enable sub 7 probably. they will attempt that next.

[@paskowitz]

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl And when Tesla makes a model with those improvements that rolls off the factory floor, it can claim a better time. But to that point. Sub 7 is extremely difficult. You can't just make a fast car. It has to be fast... and give the driver the confidence to push the car as close to that new higher limit as possible. Slapping a bunch of performance parts on will get you most of the way there... but not all the way. Everything has to be dialed in and that's not just a given.

[@paskowitz]

@Maverick I honestly don't know... did the Jag do it with the rear seats in, or with a full cage? If it was with a cage and no seats... it may officially be classified as a sedan but that's really stretching it in my book.

[@ericship8383]

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl nope

[@ericship8383]

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl it’s not going to be a sub 7 stop being delusional

[@BrowncoatFairy]

awesome video! thank you! just one note -- i know it's spelled "plaid" so it looks like it should be pronounced like "played" but it is actually pronounced "pladd", rhymes with dad. keep up the great work!

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Unless you're in Scotland, in which case it's *Definitely* "Tartan"!! 😉

[@andrewdevine3920]

Or England. It's only ignorant yanks who say 'plad'.

[@BrowncoatFairy]

@@andrewdevine3920 Elon Musk is South African. Also it's pretty shitty to just start throwing around insults for no reason, jackass.

[@romansenger2322]

Only a few people know why its called plaid speed in space balls

[@andrewdevine3920]

@@BrowncoatFairy Don't be such a baby.

[@ricopaxton]

I wish for you a spot in a future specced out Tesla plaid or Rimac! You are a great ambassador for the Nürburgring! Best wishes!

[@grssailing]

I watched this and enjoyed it. I agreed with him that the basic components were stock as the Plaid is all over the place on the track and the brakes/battery are overheating (you can hear an alert sound at 1:26). This is what happens when you put 1000+ bhp in a car where the chassis/suspension/tyres/brakes are simply not up to the job. It is a tribute to the driver that he got it round the Nurburgring (although he had crashed it in training). Personally, I would never take a stock Plaid around a track. Better to buy a Taycan that is designed to do it out of the box.

[@smartelectriccar]

And yet the Taycan overheats worse than the Tesla on this long track. See videos of Taycan which obviously derate before end of lap

[@barangoran4179]

@@smartelectriccar Taycan still faster than Plaid at the ring.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

I imagine Elon Musk knew that "everyone else" would moan, so just left the bare video up knowing Nürburgring would publish.

[@alexc1926]

Tesla: we got fastest ev at the ring. Rimac and lotus. That's cute.

[@Anonym-dx2tp]

The Rimac costs 2 Million Euros, only 150 are being produced and has 2 seats. Nothing can beat Tesla’s price to performance ratio (for now) it’s unbeatable not to forget it has 5 seats and a huge Trunk and Frunk and you can daily it. Not trying to talk Rimac down, but I think you guys get my point.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

@@Anonym-dx2tp They're just moving their goalposts!!! 😉👍

[@matteocomelli9587]

Both Rimac and Lotus still don't have the fastest EV on the Ring tho

[@jpgmatrixgmail]

@@Anonym-dx2tp unbeatble How? LOL. It is slower than other saloons way cheaper 🤣

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

fastest ev is the id.r.

[@DennisfromMunich]

I'm really impressed and you are totally right about the charging infrastructure. It's the limiting factor that I also run into all the time when going longer distances.

[@thomasbummer4361]

I always laugh on autobahn when a tesla wants to keep up with me at >200kmh, how salty tears the owner must be crying bc the next damn long annoying pit stop will come faster and faster each second he stays on the gas LOL

[@DennisfromMunich]

@@thomasbummer4361 The Tesla network is excellent and most likely he's with his next stop coming up. If these stops are annoying that's up to the person doing the driving I'd say.

[@daniel_960_]

@@thomasbummer4361 there was a test that 190kmh is the fasted speed for a model 3 to travel. It charges faster than the increased drain by the speed. But yeah, that would mean stopping a lot.

[@huzygaming7216]

@@thomasbummer4361 after 400 000km in 6 years with Teslas... for a dozen trips around europe including autobahn... I've never had any issues with charging stops and we often needed to visit toilet, eat, buy stuff, do phone-stuff etc... never was annoying.

[@thomasbummer4361]

@@huzygaming7216 coming from someone who does gaming uploads lol... hard to believe

[@andresantel2137]

Now do it stock let's see how fast it really goes lol

[@that.guy11]

Barely quicker than a Giulia Quadrifoglio despite twice the power. What happened to Tesla's claims of a 7:05 from a fully standard car??

[@perwestermark8920]

Reality? But they could probably have cut some time with other driver or by giving the driver more laps to train. Not sure if Tesla has a good simulator that decently well behaves as this car. Porsche spends huge amount of time using simulators and first doing real laps to get decent telemetry to import into the simulator.

[@b0nz1official]

Classic Elon. Always needlessly overpromising. It's not like this is a bad time. But he ALWAYS has to overpromise for the sake of it. Same with everything he does. Space X promises are the same thing. It's great what they achieve but the claims are sometimes laughable at best.

[@filibustergaming3848]

@@b0nz1official will see what the model plaid will do

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Misha Re the "Taycan record" *THANK YOU* ! I was attacked at the time (and following the first Tesla visit) for suggesting the Porsche time wasn't official, even pointing out the absence from the Nürburgring list.

[@jimwheeler6094]

Anyone that watched the video and knew what they were looking at could plainly see that it wasn't a complete lap and therefore didn't qualify as a record.

[@Fastvoice]

Me too. 😉

[@jimwheeler6094]

@@rogerstarkey5390, wtf, the subject of the thread is the Taycan's "record" Nürburgring Nordschleife lap which was NOT an official record for the reason that I pointed out and also the fact that since 2019 all Nürburgring lap record attempts are officiated by the Nürburgring, and then there is also the fact that the Taycan that was used was not a production model.

[@Pinkie007]

I’d like to see a Tesla do a self driving lap. Would be cool to see if machine learning can smash the world record set by a human or not.

[@michaelbosisto6259]

I would also like to see that. I’m always interested in AI and it’s ability to do something in a superior fashion. Live long my fellow Tesla friend

[@legioner9]

Any other idiotic ideas? ...

[@Pinkie007]

@@legioner9 ouch

[@s13dad82]

@@legioner9 lets put a monkey in there, see if it can finish an entire banana.

[@xXAlmdudlerXx]

No it can´t. Technology isn´t good enough for that yet.

[@webcrawler9782]

we want 24h EV racing with 2 hour pitstops

[@Scholzey]

What do motorbikes do? Don't they switch vehicles instead of refuelling? Does anyone care about that? Lol

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

everything besides rockets will go electric, there is no alternative. in motorsport they will switch batteries just as fast as tires.

[@alistairl]

Thankyou Misha - spot on in your shout out to the driver and in the other points you covered. This is exciting for us driving enthusiasts and like you I look forward to the "smaller" categories that us mortals can afford. The "arms race" between the ev manufacturers will be fun to watch and it is great that international manufacturers respect the place of the Nürburgring. Thermal management is an important part of all performance and it is exciting to see the progress with BEV technology as they learn the lessons that are already understood in ICE. Personally I've mostly driven German cars for the last two decades and want them to give us some good future options for driving, I'm not that interested in the car self-driving itself round the Nürburgring. As for you being a fanboy - I think you are a Nürburgring fanboy :P

[@smartelectriccar]

Tesla is a German made car. Model Y factory is in Berlin!

[@barangoran4179]

@@smartelectriccar who cares. Still a BS american company.

[@tomaszkurowski401]

Essentially, it's a time of 300bhp, $40k hot-hatches, not a 1000bhp monster. I'm strongly disappointed.

[@dennisfink3816]

Well its a heavy sedan, so...

[@bernhard.k]

@@dennisfink3816 the excuse always comes when Tesla loose. If they win, it is so cool, because you can drive to the grocery store and it have 4 doors. Always the same Story. I just want honesty. The Plaid is a very fast car and pricewise very good. But yes, for the Nordschleife there are way better cars for less money.

[@xBIGMUSCLEx]

You can't cheat physics. The car weighs 5000 pounds. There's more to a fast laptimes than just horsepower numbers.

[@thomasbummer4361]

@@bernhard.k hahahahhaha SO true, thank u for that post

[@xBIGMUSCLEx]

@@bernhard.k I don't think any Plaid owners will be taking their cars to a track unmodified regardless.

[@pancho8334]

Love your content Misha! Always fun, interesting and informative.

[@shanescarlife]

Well, given the rising popularity of EV racing, this is kind of important

[@mgcharoudin]

True!

[@FastTeam11]

Well, is the popularity of EV racing actually rising? Where do you get this information from? I thought Formula E has still very disappointing viewer counts and reactions to series like Extreme E were also very restrained... what did i miss?

[@thomasbummer4361]

@@FastTeam11 lol just what I wanted to say, no one but some fanatized "E-nthusiasts" wanna se EV racing. watching silent cars which make if any then some annoying noises round a track is like giving nothing at all to the spectators. enzo ferrari said racing is about emotion (for the fans) and that is SOUND. and EV cars are like damn pretty women... who dont make no sound at all in bed. its nice to have experienced/had them one time, but u rly dont want/need more.

[@shanescarlife]

@@FastTeam11 yes dear. Sorry dear

[@frankhage1734]

@@thomasbummer4361 I know. It's terrible one can hear wheel skip, tire squeel , rocks and tub thumps from curbs. BTW: Women love it when you play a Vuvuzela in bed.

[@nelsonmarques1334]

Tesla is the one to thank for this EV mania, and offers great performance for the price. But has someone how loves chassis quality, this time truly shocks me. A 100kg lighter car, with over 300hp more, less than 1sec per km on the ring is simply a joke. If they bump the Taycan's power to 1000hp, it will probably get in the 6min mark. Chassis is king in the ring. A Megane RS trophy r, ran a 7:45m with mere 300hp ( it's track focused, but still a small hatchback and very expensive by the way ), and an Audi RS3 ran 7:40m ( and it's known for it's not so sharp handling ).

[@rkan2]

Which car are you comparing to?

[@miguellopez3392]

The taycan would overheat at 1000HP, it can't even hold 750HP, the problem is that its using factory stock brakes and road tires aimed toward efficiency, it even still had its 165mph speed limit active during the run.

[@nelsonmarques1334]

@@rkan2 Plaid

[@nelsonmarques1334]

@@miguellopez3392 So, you think if Porsche made such a version, they wouldn't math the hardware to the power? Do you really think the Taycan needs a lot of mods to be less than 1sec per km faster on Nürburgring? This is not F1. These are normal road cars.

[@rkan2]

@@nelsonmarques1334 But the other car?

[@TheCarKrazeOfficial]

Hopefully rimac will take that record

[@mgcharoudin]

I hope so too!

[@Nowohuckisztos]

For sure😉🤪

[@Anonym-dx2tp]

@@Nowohuckisztos The Rimac costs 2 Million Euros, only 150 are being produced and has 2 seats. Nothing can beat Tesla’s price to performance ratio (for now) it’s unbeatable not to forget it has 5 seats and a huge Trunk and Frunk and you can daily it. Not trying to talk Rimac down, but I think you guys get my point.

[@Nowohuckisztos]

@@Anonym-dx2tp we talking about times not Price 🤪🤷‍♂️

[@jpgmatrixgmail]

Cheetas dont waste their time running with domestic cats

[@Shy_Knee_Side_Up]

Tesla is still firmly in the lead on Global EV tech, but not necessarily overall EV build quality. But then again comparable German model EV’s almost always cost more. Fully spec’d Model S Plaid’s are sub $140K USD. That’s a huge deal.

[@vladen14]

Don't get all the fuzz tbh. Yeah it's the fastet production EV but this is basically the same time as an M5 CS did, just that the M5 has about 400 hp less. This is actually pretty disappointing to me for a 1000 hp car. Even the regular Taycan turbo did in in (unofficially) 12 seconds slower with 300 hp less.

[@artansadiki3244]

Its a Tesla. They would make a fuzz around it even if it ran 12 minutes flat.

[@vladen14]

@@artansadiki3244 true. Starting to be like Apple, 80% hype, 20% product.

[@thijsdejong4410]

It’s an EV are more difficult on the tracks because of the massive cooling and weight. In EV space this is a massive performance. And the M5 is a spartan track optimized car.

[@vladen14]

@@thijsdejong4410 yeah that's always the same excuse if it's about a Tesla. Sure it's heavier but it also has way more power then every car in the sedan class, like the M5 with basically the same time.

[@artansadiki3244]

@@thijsdejong4410 not really, even the M5 CS is comfortable af when it needs to be. Really shows how superior the CS is to the Plaid all around

[@daves1412]

Great video. Interesting. I love the competition between Porsche and Tesla. No floating cars anytime soon I suspect, unless you put metal strips in the road. Not sure about the grip levels, either ;-) Thanks for the video. Great content 👍

[@derbigpr500]

7:35 with 1000hp and that straight line acceleration is anything but impressive. If this Tesla was a 600hp petrol car with the same weight and handling capability it has now, it would have done a 8:10-8:20 lap. This laptime just proves how bad the Tesla chassis development is and how poorly the car handles, because in a straight line it literally is quicker than almost every hypercar, yet, on track it posted a slower lap time than BMW M5, Porsche Panamera or the GT63 AMG, all of which have around 600hp and actually weigh more than the Tesla.

[@GoldenCroc]

I believe they weigh more than tesla when I see some numbers on an independent scale. For now, I think the opposite is true, even if it isnt an enormous margin.

[@louiecarrigan821]

@@GoldenCroc they don't weigh more, but the Amg 4 door is the Plaids weight, 400hp less and still quite a bit faster.

[@GoldenCroc]

@@louiecarrigan821 Yeah, but power is only useful if you can use it. From teslas video, it wasnt.

[@louiecarrigan821]

@@GoldenCroc Well, the Model S is terrible in corners, that won't change.

[@GoldenCroc]

@@louiecarrigan821 Your definition of "terrible" seem a bit hyperbolic to me when the difference in speed is in the single percent range. Cars arent rocket science, any one that cares can make a car that can have a cornering speed within a few percent of the best. The driving experiance might be percieved very differently, of course...

[@gabrieldelolmomartinez240]

Tesla: We have the nurburgring record !!! Rimac: Hold my beer.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

"......... For a 5 seat production EV...." "ICE in that beer?"

[@rkan2]

"hold my 100 pcs production run"

[@cristian_enea]

Hello Misha! Do you know how many laps does the Plaid last on one charge, if you drive it hard?

[@benediktkonighofer4524]

Why are there so few car youtubers who accept and maybe even look forward to EV evolution and accept both types of cars. Just one more point why Misha is just great! Thank you!

[@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics]

So after all the hype, the Plaid, rather than being faster than any ICE car, is in fact slower than most of the familiar players we know and love. Heck, you could go out and buy a big Camaro ZL1 1LE and spank the Plaid on a road course. That's a lot less money if fast is what you want. The old Taycan Turbo is plenty fast for an EV sedan, so what if you could go a few seconds faster? The Taycan also did it with far less power, because it's better at a lot of other things. KZbin, apart from channels like this one (Thanks Misha!) has dumbed down performance to 1/4 mile drag time bragging.

[@supersecularboypants]

👏👏👏

[@b0nz1official]

People will argue that the Plaid is a family sedan and that it is more pratical than all those cars you have mentioned. Well for those people I have a question: What is the purpose of a 1000hp+ 4 door family sedan. In my eyes it's literally pointless.

[@dantethomas7964]

@@b0nz1official it is pointless, and seriously, seriously dumb. I'm all for fast cars, but making a 1000hp electric soccermom car is as daft as it gets lol. Literally asking for trouble.

[@WestCoastSupercarsandClassics]

@@b0nz1official Exactly. For one thing, it's a car you can NEVER let your teenage kid drive. so much for practical.. :)

What about Rimac Nevara? They were fine tuning the suspension for racetracks in february. Probably they went several laps since than. But see no results - nothing unofficial records.

@@Cloxxki But touching the software, and the chassis is not legit to run official lap in production cars category. However Porsche Taycan Turbo ran it's lap unofficially too. I'm just interested for it's performance in any circumstances.

[@Robbie6298]

What about the Nevara? At 2.4m and a production run of 150 most people are Nevara gonna own one and most people are Nevara gonna see one. 😂

@@Robbie6298 ? 🤦 Not wanna own, I'm just interested in it's on-track performance.

[@TheClaptonisgod1]

3 seconds slower than a Porsche Cayenne. (Which is basically a boat)

[@ericship8383]

@Maverick so a 600 hp suv is somehow only 3 secs slower than a 1000 hp sedan lmao that’s sad

[@ericship8383]

@Maverick sedans are faster than suvs obviously it’s the fact that a car that was hyped up so much barely beat an suv with half of the hp by only 3 secs around a 13 mile track

[@davidcrane1798]

Still 45 seconds off your crazy lap yesterday!! love the content Misha

[@hansbakken08]

I watched the Tesla video and it was terrifying watching the driver fighting the steering “wheel” at every corner. Compare the steering inputs with the GT2 RS MR driver on the “fastest and scariest” ring lap video that Misha put up yesterday, like night and day.

[@einautofan6685]

Yes! Absolutely hilarious!🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@rkan2]

GT2 RS? :D a two seater which costs half a million with ceramic brakes etc.. lol Most people can afford the maintenance on the Tesla (since you don't need any to maintain warranty) Good luck with your GT2 RS.

[@thepetrolman4879]

@@rkan2 we could just choose a M3 G80. Half the hp, faster than the Plaid.

[@rkan2]

@@thepetrolman4879 Well of course you could, but you'd be missing out on like... 8 year drivetrain warranty, 3$/100 mile consumption, space of bigger car and then some... For what? So you can go faster than the speed limits? Cool story bro

[@LunnarisLP]

as you mentioned the tesla wasn't able to perform at max performance. They still have a speed limiter (possibly for battery safety too) and as you said he was still coasting quiet a bit. I expect these problems to be solved once the 4680 batteries are out for sure

[@SURO90]

07:30 is not as fast as Tesla fanboys tend to make us believe ...

[@iantan2641]

I think the "stock" Plaid has the potential to go faster with the full 200mph top speed is unlocked on that car rather than the 165mph it is limited at right now. The car only reached the maximum of 166mph in this lap so I think it's still limited. A modified plaid with more aero components, track tyres and a CCB system would undoubtedly be faster though, with or without the 165mph limit. Edit: Forgot to add that this is a great video as always!

[@Scholzey]

Hmm are the other 4 door cars that Tesla lost to running additional factory options, or base model like the Tesla? Actually Tesla was running the 21 inch wheel option with pilot sport 4s tyres. So not completely base model.. hmmm

[@redlightson]

The inertia of the car going around corners is very noticeable, demanding a lot of deceleration, the noise of the tires and the speedometer on the curves reflect the excess weight of the car.

[@KarmaticEvolution]

And it still had the power to overcome, amazing!

[@ksp3324]

@@KarmaticEvolution Well, it has over 1000 hp. The lap time is pretty slow for the power it has.I mean even suvs are just 6 secs slower than the plaid

[@psalmco2425]

@@ksp3324 good point

[@rkan2]

Yes - it looks like with better tires and suspension could be a lot faster. Overall I don't think the lap looked great either even if the driver knows Nurburgring very well.

[@MauricetePas]

0:04 It's Tuesday mate.

[@mortenlund1418]

Congratulation to Tesla. Great job. Let the competition start!

[@robertkempe2730]

A car with 1000+ hp doing a 7:30-7:35 lap and the fanboys are all over themselves - really?? I think it only shows that EVs are still far from being competitive, mainly due to their weight.

[@Eric458ita]

It’s the same time as an Alfa QV!!!!

[@TheEryk03]

@@Eric458ita Alfa have almost half the power.

[@ChosenMJ]

@@TheEryk03 LOL, the Alfa is also half the size!

[@nonconsensualopinion]

We fanboys are loving it because the EV takeover is accelerating so quickly. A decade ago there was nothing competitive in the EV world for consumers. In that time Tesla has made models spanning a good part of the consumer spectrum. Now they look good, they have good range, they are high performance, they are affordable to a large demographic (not necessarily the plaid, but model 3, model y, etc. ) Now we've got a battery EV, with a back seat, tons of storage, rear screen, video game system, autopilot computer, nearly untouchable in a straight line, and puts up good numbers on a difficult track. And the cost? Comparable to its peers, and a fraction of the price of its straight-line competition. So yeah, we're pretty happy. It is heavy. Batteries are heavy. But you know what? This is the beginning of EV battery technology. In another ten years there won't be a single ICE car on any race track record list. Batteries have a long way to go... I mean that. Batteries have a lot of potential ahead of them. ICE is at the end of its life. All the tricks are exhausted and there's nowhere for it to go. Tesla should be very proud. In a decade they snuck up behind everyone and embarrassed them. That's why we fanboys are so giddy. I can't remember the last time some ICE car has made any advancement to be proud of. How many years has it been since there was something revolutionary out of the ICE community?

[@TheEryk03]

@@ChosenMJ no its not

[@brandondunnegan3890]

Ev cars should not be on a racetrack.

[@mgcharoudin]

Yes, only horses should be there. And dogs. Cheetahs if you really wanna be exotic.

[@sooofancier]

That's ok! People like you shouldn't even drive cars on traffic.

[@brandondunnegan3890]

@@sooofancier lmfao I dont need a car to drive for me to be a good driver

[@freakattack9616]

True...

[@origaminefretami3480]

Agreed. Just commuter cars

[@mafracao]

I love to watch news about the NURBURG-CREAM

[@gytispranskunas4984]

It's actually strange how slow it is on the track. A 2009 stock GTR ran faster laps than 1000hp fastest accelerating production car on the planet. Interesting.

[@monsterous289]

Stock all-season tires, stock suspension, no stripping of parts to save 1000+ pounds, steel calipers, no carbon replacement, etc.

[@TheEryk03]

@@monsterous289 PS4S are far from all seasons tires XD

[@monsterous289]

@@TheEryk03 Yeah, I looked it up, you're right about the tires.

[@nonameyet2205]

Yeah for a 1000hp car this is very underwhelming

[@awebuser5914]

​@@nonameyet2205 OMG, this obsession with "power" is comical! How fast do you think a Bugatti Chiron will be? Will you "complain" if it can't reach a mid-7-minute time with 1,600HP+? It's a completely idiotic "complaint" to say a car has too much power since it's completely context-dependent; to get a 9.2s quarter-mile, you need close to 1,000HP in a 4,800 lb. car and on the 'Ring you can't leverage the extra power in any meaningful way since you simply need enough power to accelerate to the car's braking and cornering limits for the next apex. Weight is everything and at 4,850 lbs. there's no escaping Mr. Newton. and this goes for ANY large luxury sedan, like the GT63, etc.

[@JTube571]

While watching the onboard video I noticed one key thing, that on straightaways the driver was not full throttle. Just watch the speed on the little screen as he goes from corner to corner. You can also hear the car get quieter (not as much EV whine) when he does this. Likely to keep the battery temps down. As Misha said here and in his IG post, with some better cooling this car would be much faster.

[@monsterous289]

I believe the Plaid is still speed limited in this case. Expect an easy 25 seconds wiped away when this happens along with non-stock all-season tires, etc

[@JTube571]

@@monsterous289 even the short straights though. Not specifically top speed.

[@monsterous289]

@@JTube571 I also heard the steel brakes need to be replaced with better carbon ceramics due to the weight and high speeds this vehicle would otherwise partake. The tires used are not rated to accel and stop extremely fast over and over, probably due to getting too hot, another aspect to keep in mind

[@rkan2]

getting to top speed isn't gonna remove 25s. 10-15s. Carbon ceramic brakes another 10s. Basically with 50k$ worth of parts you can drop around 20-30s.

[@JTube571]

@@rkan2 never said it would remove 25 seconds.

[@barangoran4179]

Funny seeing a Plaid with over 1000hp getting gapped by cars with half the hp. Tesla should stick to non skill Dragracing.

[@Yanicks_Garage]

9:13 „7:09“ oh no. Bad memories coming up right now

[@rogerdsmith]

It’s plaid, as in a plaid shirt! Go watch the 1970’s Mel Brook’s movie, Spaceballs. That’s where Elon got his inspiration for the term.

[@simonjannerberg5404]

Your hair is on point today ✅👍🏻 Great video🚀

[@ericship8383]

Taycan beat it with 450 less hp and weighing 400 lbs heavier

[@eugenepioquinto5222]

Awesome work. Thanks again!

[@Leshic2]

Misha, thank you for everything you do.

[@baggszilla]

Greatest channel 🙌 Thanks Mish!

[@timb8095]

That steering “wheel” would be a nightmare in a car park

[@adamriese3610]

Thanks for the video. I wonder why the battery got hot. Cooling seems pretty good after many launches on dragstrips. Maybe from reg. Braking.... Also vmax was on the old 163mph limit and not open to 200mph

[@AOTanoos22]

On drag strips you require max power from the battery for only ~10 sec and have time to cool the battery in between runs. On the Nürburgring you basically require either max power output on the straights or partial power output in the corners for over 7 minutes straight which constantly heats the battery, almost no time to rest...and when you rest the battery while braking, the car regenerates power to the battery, basically charging the battery which again induces heat into the battery.

[@adamriese3610]

@@AOTanoos22 yeah. Recuperation is a main problem. But turned off the brakes overheat beadly. I refer to drag racing where they do multiple runs in a short time, where to old model s struggles but not the plaid So I want to see times with new brakes and regen off

[@AOTanoos22]

@@adamriese3610 Yea well they definitely improved the Plaids battery a lot to the ravens, no question about that.

[@takao4491]

But a half powered GT-R do better.

[@max_rpm5947]

Great unbiased summary Misha!

[@Foxtrot1967]

I don't care if a battery-powered car put down a 3 min lap. It will never be as visceral as petro.

[@zerooneonetwothree1872]

The time it set is very poor. The car is unbalanced, for that kind of acceleration and weight, it needs proper brakes and tires as standard. The fact that 650hp SUV thats heavier beat its time is ridiculous

[@odisy64]

the plaid was running a true factory stock configuration, it had street tires (sport cup 4's) and steel brakes. if you put ceramic brakes, cup 2's and aero mods like you do for the rest of the cars that do their record run, the plaid would have taken the 4 door record weighing 4,800lbs.

[@thepetrolman4879]

Its just a boat. All it can do is the straight line.

[@frog382]

@@odisy64 All the person has to do is look at your profile pic

[@odisy64]

@@frog382 i know, im so powerfull

[@mateokovac2642]

@@odisy64 ladyboy

[@buffalosoldier7360]

Never heard of Misha before but he clearly knows what he’s talking about.

[@DaOneJoel]

The man is a walking and talking Nuremberg encyclopedia.

[@claudioagmfilho]

Awesome video Misha… 👏🏻👏🏻🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@nurnberg1561]

Next...Rimac Nevera🇭🇷

[@RiddleTime]

Somehow KZbin allows me to translate the comment, it says Rimac Fridge.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

I think Lotus Evija will be faster than all of them.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

@@RiddleTime In spanish I believe, it's fridge. In Croatia, it's hurricane or something like this.

[@hoen2009]

Doubt any will come close to the gt2 rs mr

[@xxquackixx178]

Please compare it to the AMG GT63 S. You will see that the AMG is mostly faster on the straights but the Tesla has a lot higher cornering speeds in some corners.

[@louiecarrigan821]

It doesn't.

[@ท่องเที่ยวทั่วโลก-ฑ2ฑ]

Misha waiting for your Tesla Plaid Drive on the Ring. 😃👍 Show us the right and correct numbers 😀🔔

[@mtnvalley9298]

Thanks for your efforts Misha

[@LearningFast]

Just imagine what the Tesla Roadster will do when it comes out.

[@ganymede3141]

WHEN it comes out. That's just it. It's a mythical unicorn at this point, with actual production in some far away, nebulous future.

[@sbrlimited]

Looking good Misha, keep it up

[@stephenpeacock2627]

Don’t think that impressive for a 1100 plus bhp food mixer, as a 400bhp rs3 saloon ice car did it in 7.40. Plus the rs3 was stock, the Tesla isn’t stock with that great big rear wing.

[@filibustergaming3848]

Was there a wing?

[@rkan2]

What is this wing everyone is talking about? You didn't hear what the man said? Plaid doesn't come with "big rear wing" as standard - neither does any current Tesla.

[@Hendrik-Jan1111]

66 thousand views and only 3k likes......come on guys n gals...... do the right thing. smash the like.

[@zemekiel]

I bet you can hear if from miles away with that epic sound!

[@jamsxr]

That’s the best bit. Silent assassin.

[@nielsdebakker3283]

@@jamsxr there is something like wind noise and tyre noise. At those speeds you will hear it coming.

[@paulotheman8734]

another great video, thanks.

[@strongerandwiser2023]

Not sure if that is impressive for a car with 1060bhp ? Didnt the nissan gtr do similar time back in 2010 with half the power ?

[@nonameyet2205]

This is definitely not impressive at all. The nissan gtr with only 470hp did 7.34 back in 2010 and the nismo gtr with 600hp did 7.08 back in 2013

[@adamsavic666]

Misha can you tell me how many continuous laps the car did at the Ring ...?? I ask this question because I was present at SMSP in Sydney Australia where the Plaid could only manage 5 to 6 laps of the 4klm circuit before going it Thermal protection mode , this is only 20 to 24 Klm and was interested how they got around this issue on a circuit that is almost 21 klm a lap .

[@martinchapman2168]

Good video

[@Tristan.R.J.M]

Good First

[@MacheteK]

Good comment

[@registrationaccount1034]

Imagine if a plaid could turn or brake. It might move up higher into the 65 ICE cars above it.

[@odisy64]

this plaid purposely ran factory street tires with steel brakes to show what a truly stock trim could do. unlike many of the other 65 other cars that ran with ceramic brakes, aero kits, and sticker track tires like cup 2's.

[@ericship8383]

@@odisy64 actually that’s not true all those other stuff the cars had is from the factory! Get your facts right

[@odisy64]

@@ericship8383 of course, they added that stuff as a track package you add after you get the base vehicle, why? Because cup 2's are terrible street tires and an aero kit will get smashed up by un even ground. Tesla uses cup 4's because the last longer and is sticky enough.

[@mateokovac2642]

@@odisy64 Plaid wasn't even stock. Had bigger brakes than the production plaid. Americans, fake it till you make it.

[@odisy64]

@@mateokovac2642 i love it when i can be a smug American and inform you that you're referring to the prototype model S run a year before an official production stock attempt was taken. Tesla will probably do another record attempt this year with a factory track package that includes carbon ceramic brakes, sport cup 2s tires, performance brake fluid, active aero, and track software. this might be enough to make up the 8 second difference between the plaid and the current 4 door production Nürburgring record.

[@miguelberetta7887]

Taycan just beat it

[@fredbloggs5902]

It won’t be for long.

[@miguelberetta7887]

@@fredbloggs5902 cope

[@fredbloggs5902]

@@miguelberetta7887 no, just simple truth. The moment Tesla add the option for better wheels, tyres and brakes to their ‘production’ car, it will win again, my guess is in around a month.

[@miguelberetta7887]

@@fredbloggs5902 "the moment tesla makes a better quality car" is literally what you just said lmao😂

[@fredbloggs5902]

@@miguelberetta7887 No, wrong again, the Tesla is substantially cheaper than the Taycan by around $60,000 but is fully functional as it is. If Tesla add the option to upgrade the car for track racing (my guess is for around $10,000) as a standard choice on the production car, then it will win the record back. Claiming this is a ‘better quality car’ is incorrect, the current components are perfectly fine for normal use.

[@Jr_5646]

So its slower around the ring then a 495 hp C8 corvette and $65k ZL1 camaro? Kinda disappointing tbh.

[@andresantel2137]

given it's also modified i'd say i agree

[@mateokovac2642]

Not disappointing, its just a Tesla, a boat. Have to say i thought it will be even slower.

[@icsunonove72]

Looking forward to see a Tesla competing in the 24 hour. 10 laps then charging for 30 minutes and then 10 laps more... Or will Elon invent a charger drone flying above the car?

[@550LMS]

I really don't think the Tesla will do 10 laps (200km) on 30 minute charge at racing speeds.

[@bernhard.k]

This will not happened in the near future. EVs are not quit good enough for that at the moment.

[@icsunonove72]

@@550LMS Oh yes, soon there will be lightning charging, similar to what they used in the movie Back to the future.

[@550LMS]

@@icsunonove72 Last time I checked we lived in the real world, not Back to the Future world. Even on a single lap the Tesla needed to cool it's batteries. More heat = less charge. I'd be surprised if it could complete 3 laps at racing speed without bogging down to a near stand still due to overheated batteries.

[@plektosgaming]

@@550LMS In previous tests, they were overheating at the end of lap 2. 3 seems like a correct upper limit even with modifications.

[@wngimageanddesign9546]

Maybe we will see Unplugged Performance bring over Randy and the Pikes Peak Plaid.

[@MrQmie]

So emotionless and boring to watch all this ev record videos... But very fast. 👍

[@frankhage1734]

Misha brought up a great point; How the Germans/EU classify vehicles. I'd like to suggest that "production vehicles" must be run in a configuration that meets noise requirements for inner city use. People are asking; What's so special about the lap and drag times? The answer is; you can drive this to your job without attracting the police and pissing off your neighbors.

[@louiecarrigan821]

Car had terrible handling, not to mention the steering wheel. 7:30 is not a good time for such a powerful car, but its good for this kind of handling.

[@rkan2]

7:30 is not a good time for a big 4-door saloon with standard steel brakes that costs ~150k. Nice one :D

[@cerealboxtoys]

The crazy thing is that it was on self driving mode!

[@Cain353]

I remember Tesla fanboys being convinced this did a low 7 minute run and could probable even break the 7 minute barrier if Tesla really wanted... It's basically as quick as a BMW M4... LOL.

[@NICKCAMP04]

And just 3 seconds faster than the porsche cayanne turbo gt which is a big family suv

[@thepetrolman4879]

Teslafanboys hate cars, they just love Tesla. Obviously they have no clue about track times.

[@mateokovac2642]

Slower. The recent M3 estate is as fast as this lmfao

[@marcnobel3938]

Ahaaa! Now I see why Porsche just used the Taycan Turbo instead of the Turbo S. Now they can still top Tesla by just pulling out the faster model. - Let`s see what happens - but I guess that Record will not last for long. - But for today: Congratulations to Tesla!

[@rogerstarkey5390]

The standard Plaid smokes the Taycan "turbo"(😂) on the dragstrip, so it won't be caught out of the bends The Taycan has a much slower 0-120 mph time, so it won't catch the Tesla in the straight It's power boost only lasts a few seconds (overheating?🤔) So that won't work. It's heavier. It's not going to make up 12 seconds, even before the Tesla is unlocked to 200 mph.

[@tbn22]

@@rogerstarkey5390 The standard plaid also smokes both a Panamera Turbo S and Alfa Giuilia in a straight line, yet both of those cars destroy this lap time. 3 seconds for Giuilia and 6 seconds for Panamera. A FWD Honda Civic Type R with 1/3rd of the power is only 7 seconds slower. Taycan's weak point is the weight. If they make Taycan lighter then it will best the Plaid completely. This Plaid laptime is not at all impressive.

[@tbn22]

@Maverick No. The Alfa did the full 20.8km. Tesla got dusted.

[@amarjit_singh_]

@@tbn22 You just straight away lied about the Alfa and got caught red handed..lmao

[@ericship8383]

@Maverick still doesn’t deny the fact the plaid is slower around track

[@xXxH8TERxXx]

so i would have been a lap record anyway 😋🤷🏻‍♂️ and it needs a shit load of power to make it to this time, where others do it with less then half 🤔 the thing i am impressed with is the fact that someone was willing to drive it this hard when it is clearly not ment for it👌🏻

[@einautofan6685]

😱😉🤣😂🤣😂

[@harry-eto]

why so salty? compare apples to apples.

[@yurivbh8854]

Ahh I was waiting for this one