Tesla's FSD 13.2.2 First Impressions Drive

[@trini_islandboi]

Bro, first off, Merry Christmas to you and your family! But secondly, where have you been, man? I've been refreshing my timeline every day since V13 dropped, eagerly waiting for your update! Don’t leave us hanging like that again man, lol! All that aside, lol, as usual, your commentary was honest and top-tier! V13 is THAT GIRL! LOL. I got it yesterday, and I spent most of the day driving around Toronto using it, and I didn't want to stop! There’s no exaggeration in saying how STELLAR and MAGICAL this version is! I previously owned a Model 3, HW3 vehicle with FSD V12.5.4.2 and wasn’t much of a fan of that version. FSD 12.5.4(X) (for HW3 vehicles) brought a lot of phantom braking at intersections and green lights, which, in my opinion, made that version a travesty! I eventually sold my HW3 car and then bought the 2025 Model 3 LR RWD with AI4, and literally, everything is better! FSD V13.2.2.1 with AI4 vehicles is pure magic! This is not an exaggeration. Eventually, Tesla is going to have to upgrade all HW3 vehicles because the difference between HW3 and AI4 is night and day! Anyway, I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas. Keep the awesome videos and honest, impartial commentary coming!

[@BlackTesla]

Thanks for the thoughtful comment. We have some powers working against us trying to keep us from speaking up on v13 but we shall persevere. Glad to see you got it and can attest to how great it is.

[@uptownsfinest2006]

Brah… I’ve been waiting for you! Thanks man!!!

[@nogarden7274]

Your voice is really calming, I would definitely listen to a blacktesla podcast

[@BlackTesla]

👀 👍🏾

[@martinthe3rd664]

Yeah you should do audiobooks

[@KirinRise]

you have no idea.. how long I was waiting for your video and input on this version.

[@BlackTesla]

Sorry for the wait, the powers that be try to keep me down but I shall prevail

[@moseschung3220]

The Jim Carrey insertion was hilarious.

[@YuenanCao]

This is so different than when I first watched you test FSD a year ago!

[@BlackTesla]

💯

[@philwelling7172]

Love your work and your honest approach of showing the good and the bad of FSD. Integrity is key.

[@RealJamesScott]

Like a lot of people, I was pumped to see your video drop. Been watching FSD videos for over 4 years now and like you, I think FSD will be solved once it handle places like NYC and Boston and Chicago to perfection. I stopped watching Omars videos because, frankly, CA driving is not that challenging and at this point we need more videos in urban environments with snowy and freezing rain conditions. Keep up the good work and Merry Christmas!

[@BlackTesla]

Thank you, happy holidays to you and yours

[@DerekDavis213]

Driving in San Jose or San Francisco is still challenging, and the latest FSD software continues to require human interventions in those cities.

[@hughjanus768]

I totally agree. They should have quality testers in New York City. That would be the best and most challenging place to be able to roll it out.

[@VierImageStudios]

I just got so excited to see this upload. Thanks for being so consistent. I enjoy your content.

[@geekimusprime]

Gonna love riding around in Cybercabs!

[@DerekDavis213]

Why? Uber and Lyft can give you fast and safe rides today, almost anywhere.

[@MakeAMark1755]

Finally, been waiting for you to get this. Someone who keeps it real

[@margaretesulzberger2973]

Great test. You have all in your surroundings that is important for FSD to cope with: suburbs, highways and of course NYC. As FSD gets better test tend to get longer and longer. I really wish tests to get more standardised and challenging. Like your regression route which would be quite good if you always did it at rush hour. Similar regression routes for highways and NYC. Really challenging situations like different school zones, around bus- and train-stations, inner-city situations with a lot of busses, trains, pedestrians, bicycles, buggies…

[@allieflounder5764]

Always my favorite fsd creator. I think this one met the hype for me. I was surprised, and I did have a few errors over the last few days..but no safety interventions. Glad to see you posting again

[@gee4extra]

Was actually waiting for you to drop a video 😂 Never clicked anything that fast. So V13 is good. Good job BT.👏🏾

[@BlackTesla]

Appreciate it! Glad you're enjoying it

[@gwen4112]

Appreciate your videos. Welcome back! Looking forward to v13 hitting hardware 3 vehicles.

[@cesarclemente2329]

Difference I saw for me on model s FSD for me 13.2.1 was more for model 3 when taking turns it would always correct itself but 13.2.2 I’ve noticed it does something I’ve wanted for a while it takes a slight left angle to making the right turn to give distance from the curb now I don’t have to be nervous for right turns

[@BlackTesla]

💯

[@jamesmcneal1821]

I live in rural WV. If you’d care to give FSD a challenging test, you might want to consider here - but you might want to wait until it can handle potholes better! Thank you for these fantastic videos!

[@rambo321]

thank you for the video ... been waiting for your test drive and feedback on v13 Merry christmas!

[@LanceGHall]

Thanks for the tip on autopilot operator. I found one in my hometown of Houston

[@VishnuKamath]

1. NY Driving is Crazy, Been to the city Once and it was chaotic and seems it got worse. 2. Totally agree about the driving etiquette I have seen that it doesn't block the intersection. 3. The fact that it handles such a chaotic drive is nothing short of Miracle. 4. Did a drive in Vancouver BC in heavy rains it handled it without ease. 5. Navigation is the weakest link in FSD.

[@Pete35vail]

Great job this year! Merry Christmas man.

[@iainmrodgers9991]

Great video. The progress of FSD is amazing.

[@tonyvelasco5732]

Great video, love how you test it! Did a 400-mile round trip from Vancouver WA to Edmonds WA for a Christmas Eve family get-together on v13.2.2. Only 1 disengagement, and that was just before getting home, turning into my neighborhood! It is so amazing with city lane merges and roundabouts, hundreds of miles of I5 including 80mph driving and stop and go driving (in Seattle), then neighborhood driving and errands around Edmonds. The disengagement was because the turn into my neighborhood is from a suicide lane where you can turn in both directions. This instead of a dedicated turn lane, and it, for some reason, won't get into the suicide lane to make the turn. Silly error by FSD. Also rained on the drive home heavily 3 times, and fsd never gave up. It reduced its top available speed during the heavy rains and moved over to the slowest lane, but was able to at least stay at the speed limit. Sped back up again as the rain eased off to full hurry mode speed and performance!

[@Mpr47276]

Excellent, thanks for this exciting update!!!

[@rgm2527]

Excellent video and superb commentary.

[@DesC-i9c]

As soon as I came on here, it was to find the FSD 13.2.2 review and your the first one to pop up! Appreciate your work man! I’m in South Florida on a 2024 M3dm It’s def amazing man! I noticed that my active monitoring goes unavailable quite often.

[@BlackTesla]

Thanks! It goes off at night or during the day?

[@DesC-i9c]

@@BlackTeslaI just got this morning, so I haven’t driven tonight, but it goes off for about 3-5 minutes. Then come back on for 1-2 minutes. It was working fine before in 12.5.6.4 (I think it was that? ) I thought it was Tesla trying to lower the threshold so they can test un-supervised--more test tomorrow! While dealing with cars is perfect. it still has a habit of trying to make left turns from the straight lane if it can't get in. I also wish it judged the speeds of cars before making lane changes via highway, it seems to make lane changes for somewhat no reason at times. but it finally stopped braking at emergency signals! I think the only time I take over is because of things like waiting in the bus lane or being in the slow lane. I'm hoping for unsupervised by this time next year. what do you think? Ps. Are you in tech? I’m another brother in south Florida, work in vCISO at my own company!

[@Neubs-xv8tw]

My only gripe on 13.2.2.1 is driving on a road that's wide open with no lane markings, it drives absurdly close to the curb where I could reach out and touch mailboxes from the passenger side if I wanted, yet the entire road is wide open and no-one is around. I guess it's technically correct but feels better to driver more towards the center of the road in that scenario. Other than that, its been spectacular, an incredible build, so damn smooth.

[@BlackTesla]

Yes this is a major issue i address in the next video in Brooklyn...stay tuned

[@timmcgrath9788]

Agree completely with the needed assertiveness in the city. Planning for and getting around double-parked cars is another big thing in New York.

[@PrescottResident]

Sorry to hear you had some file corruption and other issues, but glad you're posting again. 13.2.2.1 has gone out a bit and looks like it is for all models. Hope you get it and figure out what that .1 is! Thanks for the real life evaluation and opinions.

[@solomongrundy1]

If BT says it's good in the neighborhood, then it's good. Driving in tunnels is typically uncomfortable anyway so I am hyper focused when FSD is driving.

[@BlackTesla]

Yes it is and this makes tunnels a piece of cake

[@Stretch1931]

I love my 13.2 in my Model Y. Every chance I get, I have it engaged, and very rarely have to disengage for any reason. But I will say my routes are much more simple, and generally shorter than this. So I might have a different opinion if I had to drive in congestion all the time. Yeah, the tunnel is kind of freaky, because you have nowhere else to go. If it decides to bury the front of the car into the wall or slam-dance with the neighboring lane, you just have to be ready at any moment.

[@mndrix]

I always enjoy your videos. Thank you.

[@BlackTesla]

Thanks for watching

[@kpboix99]

Impressive how it detected and went around the the pedestrians!

[@garyland3168]

Long but as always very instructive. Keep up the good work.

[@nimalakers24]

Here are the issues that I have with this build. 1) Car tends to bias more towards the right side of the road when driving on a residential street. It can get a bit uncomfortable when the car gets close to the parked cars. 2) Once in a while, the car will make a wide turn. 3) The car sometimes cuts through a solid white line. This build is significantly better than the V12 builds. On freeway driving, I honestly feel like it drives better than me. On city streets, it needs very little supervision. Almost human level driving. I would say that FSD is close to being feature complete and will be ready soon for unsupervised driving.

[@BlackTesla]

💯

[@RonnieDenburg]

Another capability fsd needs to grow is understanding cars blinking their high-beams as a signal that they want / are allowing the vehicle being blinked, to move before they do. This has happened to me about 5 times in the past few weeks. Great to see so many polite people, but fsd needs to understand this communication so I don’t have to disengage or confuse the other person and screwup the traffic flow by not moving.

[@deal2live]

Well done on being organised with regression test!!!

[@cyberwhat537]

Glad to see you have a new video out

[@dekepgreen]

Really good test drive! You seemed to give it more credit than I would have on the tunnel lane change. My experience in test places that in the "contact" category. I'm also wondering if the tolerances for the lane were too tight to maintain without hitting the curb or the dividers? You were there though and or maybe have seen it before? I'm also wondering if that was as the result of the data received from driving videos. Humans tend to do that all the maneuver time....frustrating. Your question about NY test drivers prevents an interesting scenario. I wonder if the gathering of that data would be another order of magnitude in complexity given the number order of variables in NY driving!

[@BlackTesla]

I gave it credit because it's always done that so I expected no less here. There seems to be a mapping issue where it's needs to get into the right lane at the end of the tunnel but the powers that be have limited that behavior with cones and such but the car insists. Sometimes you can get in that right lane at the end so 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@dekepgreen]

@@BlackTesla Gotcha. Either way, to your point, this has attained a really high and reliable level. Based on your videos, I get the sense you are an engineer like me….or at least think that way. This level of execution has been some time coming. I’m really loving it.

[@samsaek666]

This is mind blowing, I just moved to California from NYC and got a Tesla but have been wondering how this would Behave in the streets of New York. Being the Bay Area I assume that everything is purpose built and programmed to work flawlessly… but manhattan?! Damn!!!!

[@montymonto6430]

Two interventions or disengagements but neither was safety critical. Do you agree? Thanks for a great video.

[@BlackTesla]

Not safety critical disengagements but they were significant disengagements that could lead to a ticket or fine....so financial disengagements 🤣

[@ernestv10]

How long has tesla been on level 2 and when do you think it will get to level 3?

[@BlackTesla]

It's been classified as level 2 since it launched navigate on Autopilot. However, imo it surpassed level 2 with v12 and v13 makes it even better but SAE still claims it's level 2

[@JP-pd9op]

I’m very pleased with FSD here in Philadelphia. I’m concerned 22:33 and 27:06when changing lanes on the highway FSD seems to change lanes in drivers blind spots I have seen numerous accidents because of that.

[@BlackTesla]

It does change lanes in the blind spots alot BUT it does a great job of reacting even if the car in the adjacent lane drifts in the lane so no worries there

[@timepstein274]

I agree that there is no problem changing lanes in drivers' blind spots because a) It always ensures that it has a backout/escape path available if the other drivers zags when the FSD zigs, before committing to the lane change - it will never do it if it could become boxed in b) it has super human reflexes and will adapt instantly if the other car moves. Changing lanes in a blind spot is a very human problem, but not an FSD problem

[@FlorideEnBusiness]

Great walkthrough of Tesla's FSD 13.2.2! It’s impressive to see how far Tesla's software has come, especially with the smoother cornering and better traffic interaction. The handling of complex intersections and decision-making improvements really stand out. Of course, there’s still room for growth, particularly in areas like unprotected lefts or recognizing unusual obstacles, but it’s exciting to see this level of progress. Looking forward to seeing how Tesla refines these features further in upcoming updates! You can check out my video as well on this topic.

[@dougjohnson5947]

Next level commentary. Thank you. @BlackTesla

[@BlackTesla]

Thank you

[@Someone_Cool.x3]

Love that you've been able to put a video out! ❤ In regards to Tesla setting up shop in Florida and Michigan for AV testing, seems like they're going the path of least resistance first. Florida and Michigan both don't require a driver while NYS does. So, NYC would be ideal but, not likely for awhile. We'll see tho.

[@BlackTesla]

🤔 good point!

[@richardhunt4576]

Great thanks!

[@SkullEZClap]

Nice video

[@BogeyGolfer-bl4it]

Both Michigan and Florida has EV specific test tracks which I assume is the reason why openings in those areas.

[@MakeAMark1755]

Im debating on trading in my 2020 Model 3 performance for a new long range. Mainly for FSD. Do you think thats a good move?

[@jooptablet1727]

Not just fsd! It's a massive improvement all around. (I have both a 2019 and a brand new model 3).

[@BlackTesla]

Yes its a much better car and better performing FSD is a bonus

[@Someone_Cool.x3]

I do...but best deals are now so, would try to do it by end of year. I think a HW4 vehicle would future proof you for a bit.

[@philwelling7172]

I’m thinking the same. But am contemplating that after the CyberCab they will come out with a Model 3 with Hardware 5. That might be worth waiting for.

[@Bayshore958]

I traded my 2020 LR HW3 recently for a 25 Highland HW4 with FSD and it is a huge difference. Just got 13.2.2.1 in Canada today.

[@blue5peed]

turned on notifications just for this video😅

[@BlackTesla]

I appreciate you

[@roxter299roxter7]

What about using voice commands to enter destination points or waypoints?

[@BlackTesla]

It still works but sometimes it returns multiple results prompting you to touch the screen anyway

[@sa61168]

I appreciate your videos. Thank you. Curious, on your plaid, do you run on stock 21 wheels and tires in the winter or do you swap your tires?

[@BlackTesla]

Stock 21's and stock winter 21 tires from Tesla. We get too many nails to do aftermarket 😁

[@youtuberpov]

I think the posting for florida and michigan might be targeting for actual robotaxi rollout after Cali and Texas (austin)

[@BlackTesla]

Totally understand and they should do that but also leverage the massive data gains they would get from NYC

[@deal2live]

Uber black? Do we have that in uk!

[@BlackTesla]

Yes you have Uber black in London but everywhere else you have standard black cabs....so equate that to the best black cab you can get 👍🏾

[@TheGreatestJuJu]

35:35 I disagree. FSD changes the way it drives based on geography. Example: FSD Assertiveness for crosswalks in NYC is way different than for small town. “If it can drive in NYC it can drive anywhere”, this may be true but I think too much bias in the training data for NYC would lead to many behaviors that are inappropriate elsewhere. Driving in NYC is its own beast and shouldn’t be emulated everywhere.

[@BlackTesla]

We can agree to disagree. As presently presented, FSD does not change its behavior based on geography. 6 training data is heavily biased on the bay area and San Francisco, which is why it falls short on other driving scenarios common in other areas. We don't need too much bias on NYC we just need a core data set for NYC that can be applied to just about every other city in the country and abroad. Think London, think India, Italy, etc. But again it can drive like a New Yorker in NY and drive like a Californian in San Francisco. But the NY data will make other driving scenarios much easier to solve for.

[@gridcoregilry666]

32:20 OMG!!!! XD THAT GOT ME JUMP in my seat! xD

[@johannel8104]

Thanks for the vid and making the effort to go into NYC!!! As for Tesla being putting a FSD-HQ in NYC, I think there are 2 reasons. The biggest probably being regulatory approval. NYC has a lot of red tape and other limiting rules. For instance Uber drivers from outside NYC cannot take passengers out of NYC once they dropped someone off in the city. Reason #2 I think is just how hard the challenge is in NYC. San Francisco and Los Angeles and a host of other large cities are probably a bit easier while providing sufficient training data to improve driving in NYC. As for licensing in Florida and Michigan. Florida is a red state and pro-Tesla and has favorable autonomous driving rules. Michigan is home to the 'Big Three' (or 2 now). And I SUSPECT GM and Ford is getting ready to license FSD. Launching it in Michigan makes it much more manageable for them since they have a lot of clout there and more resources to manage the adoption and rollout. I didn't know Tesla was hiring FSD test drivers in Michigan and this actually increases my confidence in how I read Mary Bara's talk recently on shutting CRUISE down and about what's coming for GM's approach to ADAS. I received v13.2.2 last night and it boosts my opinion on FSD and Robotaxis. I think Robotaxis are a lock for 2025. E2E highway especially is a total and absolute game changer. Highway driving is boring and stressful w traffic. Since E2E highway on v12.5.6.3 highway driving is 99.99% licked.

[@l0v3nul]

Thx for your efforts. Regarding the bus lane IMO you intervened way to soon. It seemed not so obvious what is gonna do....

[@BlackTesla]

Fair, but it's done this before in every build and stayed in the lane

[@herbertmukwana4302]

Finally

[@BlackTesla]

So many things happened to keep me from publishing...including releasing 13.2.2 after I shot 13.2.1 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@diamond_h0us]

I don’t think coming to a full stop is any safer for the AI. I think the code making it do that is actually making it less safe and interfering with the timing. On many occasions it has turned right as an oncoming car is approaching. I think the timing would have worked if the AI wasn’t overridden.

[@deal2live]

Black Tesla!👍🏾

[@shdmd2118]

Do they not reset FSD strikes anymore after big updates?

[@BlackTesla]

Strikes reset after a week without an update

[@shdmd2118]

@ I just went from V 12.5.4 to V 13.2.2.1 with Holiday update and strikes didn’t reset …

[@googleone5867]

How is it not a big deal that it goes into the bus lane?

[@BlackTesla]

It is a big deal that's why I disengaged

[@duncanmacleanjr]

I always knew that the Holland Tunnel was an irregular tunnel!

[@George2647g]

Man, I wouldn't be comfortable touching carbon fiber instead of wood.. You need to touch wood my man.. That's all - no notes - great video!

[@nimasahabi9421]

I think we are close to L4 or even L5 autonomous driving

[@Steve410811]

Whats gonna happen when theres more Teslas on the road with fsd. They will all talk with eachother make turns and stuff flawless almost

[@BlackTesla]

Not initially, but I think eventually

[@pilpil6698]

👍👍

[@coolbart66]

This is the true test for FSD. As I watch Whole Mars, Chuck Cook, Dirty Tesla, and others. Those areas are nothing of a stress test as compared to NYC. If the FSD team can conquer this, it will be robotaxi ready. Until then …

[@BlackTesla]

💯

[@josephmisiti5618]

Did you get a new car - I assumed you were on hardware 3?

[@BlackTesla]

Upgraded one of our cars to HW4 and kept the other HW3 car for head to head testing

[@tedtodorov698]

I have HW3, so am on FSD 12.5.4.2 but while in most ways FSD 12 is better than the enhanced Autopilot it replaced, specifically in the Lincoln Tunnel, Autopilot was more reliable. It never attempted to change lanes -- FSD does it all the time, especially from the left to right lane. The other thing that FSD 12.x does but was not visible in your FSD 13.2.2 video. The other thing that FSD 12.x does, but Autopilot did not is slow down to a crawl when the pylons are separating the lane. I have to hit the accelerator to avoid the car following from beeping at me. Lastly, outside the the tunnel it has a tendency of trying to chose the lane that would end up sending us downtown instead of uptown (we are headed to the UWS). Did you ever have the pylon slow down issue with FSD? Great video, great commentary, thank you as always!

[@BlackTesla]

Yes Navigate on AP never did that but I suspect there is an issue with the maps whereby it thinks it's clear to make a lane change

[@mkkm945]

FSD went down the middle tunnel but the CEO is definitely in the far right one. 🤣🤣🤣 (couldn't resist, sorry :))

[@iainmrodgers9991]

😂

[@Sal3600]

just right you mean😉

[@digi3218]

I hope it does well.. 🍿

[@digi3218]

Dang it messed up in the tunnel 😢 it was doing great until then

[@maxaluta3618]

Autopilot is a better brand name but Full Self Driving is what we are more used to and in our minds FSD is at a higher level than Autopilot. So in that sense FSD is better. If we had no familiarity and associations with these brand names Autopilot would be better.

[@TheRajmoney]

Its about time...

[@BlackTesla]

Sorry for the delay

[@TheRajmoney]

@BlackTesla love your channel. Thank you for putting out good contents!

[@deal2live]

That illegal lane change, is that permanent fixture?

[@BlackTesla]

It is

[@roxter299roxter7]

I think that eventually the software will have to bifurcate into different branches based on car model. Mainly because of the different sized vehicles. Already the Cybertruck is having problems because it thinks it is a model Y.

[@BlackTesla]

Yes its already bifurcated for the CT but more is needed.

[@UP-To-The-Time]

Why don't they give you the option to have FSD visual on the big screen like the Model Y,3 and the truck. Then give you the option to run the map on the small screen. Just a waste of real estate on the screen.

[@BlackTesla]

Agreed they can make an app that can run on the big screen for those that want it

[@tonystorcke]

I can only imagine how much better these will be than human drivers. We need robot women soon.

[@DerekDavis213]

Keep imagining, because humans can drive for years without a problem. FSD is nowhere even close to that level of performance.

[@deal2live]

Uber must be annoyed you are using them to rate FSD?

[@BlackTesla]

Shouldn't be they will be first in line to buy robotaxis when available

[@fred1barb]

Excellent point about coming to a full stop. I see a legal problem ahead if Tesla implements modes that by design break the law, speeding, rolling stops, rolling right on red. In some states you may not drive so as to impede the flow of traffic, you can get a ticket for driving too slowly when others are speeding. An hour later the same speed is acceptable. When we get unsupervised FSD the issue of liability has to be addressed. If Tesla allows the user to select a mode in which there can be a prima facie illegal or unsafe speed or maneuver who is liable for the traffic violation and who liable for any damages. Personally, if I am not driving, I want a safe, smooth and legal trip. I want my wife to be comfortable using FSD. The time saved by going 75 ot 80 in a 65 zone is simply not worth the risk.

[@Sal3600]

true but all it takes is a disclaimer. you choose, you're responsible.

[@fred1barb]

@@Sal3600 Disclaimers are more effective in theory than they are with juries.

[@helper734]

13.2.2, 2024 M3LR lane drifting on local and highways, also noticed it will stop at a red light and after about 15 seconds it starts to go on a Red light at intersection 😅, what could be the problem. 13.2.1 worked really well, but I see major regression on 13.2.2

[@sirishkumar-m5z]

Charging the bZ4X is straightforward and user-friendly, similar to plugging in a smartphone. The included portable charging cable simplifies the process, making it easy to charge at home or on the go.

[@Lee-fc3yf]

Weirdest streets in NYC...damn..

[@BlackTesla]

💯

[@user-se3wt1mh7b]

保険会社が潰れるかもね

[@miketrevino2417]

Sidewalks on opposite sides of the road but yeah why not block the whole damn lane smh

[@BillBadMule123]

[@routine8]

All the versions are subject to critical disengagements, more frequently than the EA testers report. Robotaxi from tesla is not happening.

[@kennethelliott9248]

Stop driving this on one lane roads with trees flanking one side. Try driving this in constant traffic with firetrucks, orange cones, bicycles, faded lines, drunk drivers, and tollroads.

[@routine8]

Elon is alot of talk and waymo is alot of show.

[@tonyvelasco5732]

Dumb as a post, bud.

[@youtubesucks8024]

2023 MSP: 13.2.2 lane centering is a huge issue especially on the highway.

[@margaretesulzberger2973]

Great test. You have all in your surroundings that is important for FSD to cope with: suburbs, highways and of course NYC. As FSD gets better test tend to get longer and longer. I really wish tests to get more standardised and challenging. Like your regression route which would be quite good if you always did it at rush hour. Similar regression routes for highways and NYC. Really challenging situations like different school zones, around bus- and train-stations, inner-city situations with a lot of busses, trains, pedestrians, bicycles, buggies…