Testing DoorDash's NEW Distance Pay For Dashers (Worth It?)

[@YourDriverMike]

⚡Learn more about Distance Pay here: kzbin.infomEuwZh3zpSU?si=HioNAikaU7_BK0DI&t=648

[@TravisNewton1]

I started getting the "if the customer meets you, take a photo" screen the other night. It's very annoying. I had one where the customer met me. I had to awkwardly be like "sorry, DoorDash wants a photo of the bag", take the photo, then it yells at me that the phone was tilted down and to take another, but I had already given the food to the customer so all DoorDash got was a blurry photo of my hot/cold bag. It's absolutely stupid and a waste of time.

[@legendvalley]

I hold up the bag a soon as I get out of the car try to get the home in back ground fast

[@mng519]

Yeah, DD is annoying that way. I hear ya.

[@stevewoodyt]

I just take the picture over and over. lol.

[@YourDriverMike]

I had that on this shift, contactless, customer came out, "one sec just gotta take a picture", "image too dark" 😂 if they only knew our pain 😂

[@xX5jobojim5Xx]

Me too ​@@legendvalley

[@michaelburkhart205]

In my area, the base pay is $2.00. A stacked order will be a base pay $2.25. Door Dash thinks because they dump 2 orders on you they don't have to pay for the second one? That's insane to me, doe that not bother anyone?

[@RobLowdown0]

It is cheap, dd is chinsey

[@stevewoodyt]

Yep. Don’t worry about the base pay. Is it enough to do the second drop? Is it even enough to just one. I’ve had both terrible and pretty good. I’ve gotten the same customer on a stack that I do solo every so often. The stack with another semi regular that was a block away was less total pay than the solo. The next two days I delivered their coffee again. Both time more money for just the one than when it was a stack. It’s always the same pay for them right at $6 bucks. The stack with the other one that’s usually $4 paid $5.61????? They stealing.

[@YourDriverMike]

100%, single base pay per offer card. We can get tips on both offers even if they're the same customer (had that happen on this shift)

[@rachmunshine9474]

Very bothersome!

[@rachmunshine9474]

@@YourDriverMike yep my favorite was the older gent (for reference on 52, almost 53) who put $10 at the liquor store and $10 at the Wawa. Poor guy literally got a small bottle of wine and a taquito or something from Wawa. For those who do not know, Wawa is like 711 but without the liquor, at least in New Jersey, where only liquor stores can sell liquor. And with more fresh food. And often a gas station attached. (every so often you see one in a strip mall with no gas station part.) I mean, I wouldn’t have been mad if he had put the whole 20 on one of the two stores. As long as it’s an acceptable offered to take, I don’t mind the two stops one customer. Because they’re gonna understand if it’s taking a few minutes. If they think DoorDash should’ve sent their hot food sooner, depending on how many things are getting at the other store… they can take that up with DoorDash. But at least they know I’m not messing around wasting time. I hate double is because one or I can make the other order, which is usually the one that tipped well and a big order sitting in the hot bag while I wait for one order of chicken fingers or something. So unless it’s going very very near I don’t even try to accept an Add on. I just don’t think they’re fair to anybody. The other occasional scenario I’m OK with it is if it’s restaurants next-door to each other. Or like one parking lot over that I can walk and going with an a mile or less of each other or just over a mile. Half the time the houses - when you get to a certain part of the drive - are going in two different directions.

[@RU-HDD-4-HVN]

DD needs a waiting bonus stat. A minimum of .25 cents per minute accumulating as the driver is waiting for the order to be made ready for delivery.....no more delivery drivers waiting around endlessly for free!!! Delivery drivers are actually paid to deliver not to wait! Come on people...we drivers are being taken advantage of BIG TIME!!

[@YourDriverMike]

I've heard that before, would really put the pressure on restaurants to manage busy times. And of course DD not wanting to spend more if they don't have to.

[@Mickieshelton]

GP and catering has it

[@MikeTheBikeDasher69]

Might not be the worst idea for Uber Drivers to try out. If the Uber customer is okay with it, and there's little-to-no deviation from their destination (long wait time/different direction for delivery), you could pick up an order to deliver on your route to get more value out of your commute. Or you could pick one up, after dropping off the Uber customer, for the way back towards your zone so you're not traveling on complete Dead Miles. Personally, I won't be going for it since I do my thing on my eBikes, but to each their own. Good luck and stay safe out there everyone!

[@robertallison9653]

Hope to see that here in my market soon! Neat video with a tornado on the ground in your area!

[@YourDriverMike]

Don't think we had any touch downs here in Pittsburgh, detected a little east in Aspinwall but for about 15 minutes the weather was brutal. Per usual when we get those warnings.

[@robertallison9653]

@@YourDriverMike A tornado "warning" means a tornado is proven to be on the ground. That was some wicked weather!

[@rachmunshine9474]

@@robertallison9653 I know it made me nervous and I was like well down your windows so you can maybe see a little bit through them. I like to keep them open and really be able to see especially in the dark if I find myself driving in the dark, which is rare. But when the precipitation is like coming down heavy and it’s windy, it’s really not practical to leave them open. Anyway, I would’ve wrote them down and then back up just to give them a little bit better. But I decided I guess he doesn’t need his side windows. I was impressed with talking to the camera driving and making it in one piece in that weather. Never mind the tornado. It was bad enough without it. Although I’m certainly glad it stayed away from Mike.

[@rachmunshine9474]

I never felt like he wasn’t watching the road tho. And I’m glad he pulled over when It got hairy. When it gets Hairy enough, you can barely see to do that.

[@Jennifer-t8c5b]

So I just recently became a Platinum Dasher and I don't get any high paying offers or big offers now. I am barely even getting offers at all. This is extremely irritating especially when I busted my butt to get to Platinum Dasher status. Is anyone else experiencing this?

[@TeslaHustle]

I noticed that as well. The last two months of the year is usually the slowest. I usually make $1,000 in a short period of time (mulit-apping Uber/UberEats and DoorDash) but now it’s more like $500 with longer work hours. I use to be a platinum driver as well but I actually get some good paying orders with acceptance rate of 14% that goes up and down on the daily. For me, platinum gives you the ability to dash now compared to scheduling yourself and secondly, you get a badge to let you know that it’s a high paying offer which I use to offers that was $8 for 4 miles saying it was high paying and you know how that goes. I guess I everyone’s definition is different. My high paying offer is $15 for 5 miles or less

[@tyharris9994]

"There's a sucker born every minute" - PT Barnum / Tony Xu

[@Jennifer-t8c5b]

@@tyharris9994 okay thanks 👍

[@orlandoalanis2166]

I received one of those 2 days ago, for 11 miles the base pay was $10 plus $3 tip from customer

[@YourDriverMike]

$10 base pay? That's maxed out, must've been declined for awhile for some reason.

[@christophermatthews4896]

i like the new pickup screen once you are delivering

[@YourDriverMike]

What do you like best?

[@christophermatthews4896]

@@YourDriverMike i like that you can see the unit and gate code and instructions in separate boxes rather than having to scroll and click the drop down to expand the delivery instructions. it separates the data better

[@AmbientShades]

We need this in my area cause most customers are 5 to 10 miles from any stores the mileage here is ridiculous

[@thomasgraham7934]

So...if the order is contactless...take pic.........OK... IF the order is "hand it to me" no pic................OK BUT IF the customer has no contact...BUT...takes the order from you.....Take a pic...WHY..??? because the phone automatically adds GPS coordinates to ALL pics the phone takes..????? I assume if the customer calls and states.."I didnt get my order" DD can now say..."BUT the delivery person took a pic in your front yard.. The embedded GPS location says so....(boy...you cant trust nobody now days...huh) Just one persons opinion

[@YourDriverMike]

Yes it's all about auditing and ensuring a confirmed delivery. Really leaning into taking confirmation pictures, I get it. Not necessarily against it it's not as annoying as receipt pictures imo

[@amanjodhsinghcheema]

Bro I want to know if Oder is Hand it to me then I need to take picture ?

[@annunakian8054]

Still take a picture if the customer comes out to grab it? Sure lemme just drop these 3 bags & 4 drinks & grab my phone so I can do that DD...🤡💩

[@YourDriverMike]

I would just always be ready to take pictures, so even if they're already standing there when I get out I'll say, "how's it going, just gotta take a pic real quick". Never had someone try to stop me. If they complain say, "no I hear you, DoorDash really wants us to take pictures now" etc etc basically just stall while taking the pic and you're done.

[@JigsawBell]

I have been forced into bankruptcy. I have a regular FT job. I have done DoorDash PT since 2020. ‘20-‘23 I made an extra $1k a month. As of the start of 2024, I make an extra $8 a week.

[@danielheck1874]

Haven’t seen this gonna keep an eye out tonight

[@thekingofking55]

If they want a photo take the handed to customer off the screen so that we take the photo but when someone is walking up to your car befir u even get out i rathe just hand them the food and go 😊

[@YourDriverMike]

Or have that option appear after we take the picture. Have you commonly had someone walk up to your car? Typically I'll have they're waiting at the door/patio but I could see that maybe if they're already working in the front lawn.

[@nala3038]

I’m thinking you failed Spelling 1A.

[@thekingofking55]

@@nala3038 The fact that that's you're comeback though? Like why? Did it occur to you that I was in a rush trying to comment so that I could attend to other business? Have a blessed day 🙏🏽

[@GoFastJames]

That Distance pay showed up over the weekend to part of this week, had problems with it not working and not showing me my ending amounts for orders. Most if not all the support agents didt know about the incentive even after showing screen shots. Few other things I found was the amounts change as well last day close to the end of the incentive they put only in one place saying its only for per orders deliveries not earn by time, so for all most a week they didt say it does not work on EBT. And pay attention they shift around the EBT amount base, for my area/zone goes from 18.75-18.50 and just other day for a friend it changed it for him to 17hr. but they gave him really good petco deliveries that paid really well on top the hr amount.

[@YourDriverMike]

Yes I've also noticed base active hourly changing on EBT. For the Distance Pay yes I heard it was initially a small test so I can understand how even support isn't super familiar with it yet.

[@VisualizeYourMusic]

tornado warning while dashing. that is wild xD be careful out there

[@DashDummy-u4s]

Good stuff sir. Take care.

[@YourDriverMike]

Appreciate you!

[@rachmunshine9474]

I’m glad that you’re careful, but you’re braver than I just being out there in that! That’s probably a night if anything I would have delivery before I would do delivery. When I was younger maybe. we also have docs in the backyard and like water everywhere you turn around here so or at least where the people order from a lot. At least 50% of my deliveries involves water with really know barrier from falling into it right on my side when I make a turn. A little too nerve-racking for my taste.

[@rachmunshine9474]

No not know. I have to stop dictating.

[@AquaticPolyps]

Only thing problem I have with this is that take a photo is at random when it's hand to customer.

[@ericberry6557]

There is too many leave at door customers calling door dash saying they did not get their order and how do u prove it when u did not take a picture so dd is going to side with the customer and ur gonna get a violation if u don't take pictures😊

[@YourDriverMike]

I get it, and every free coupon back to the customer is lost revenue some of which can be avoided by just always taking confirmation pictures.

[@_joestop5]

I drive in Hampton, Virginia, and my opportunities tab shows it ranging from $1.80 to $3.40 in neighboring Norfolk.

[@YourDriverMike]

I have seen a range, appreciate you sharing!

[@chuckwhite3033]

So that’s in addition to what would be the usual offer?

[@matthewnanes]

Distance pay is going to be really good in my area. The west/northwest side of my area is all rural with very few options to pick up more orders. I'd be much more willing to bite the bullet if I got 2-2.5x the pay to the mile because frankly, people out there are horrible tippers.

[@amberkargol5514]

Same here.... We have small towns 7-10 miles from my city. I would be willing to drive there for distance pay

[@YourDriverMike]

I get it, it rewards every mile you drive with extra pay. So as mentioned at the end here any longer trip could benefit whereas shorter trips Peak Pay could be better.

[@matthewnanes]

@@YourDriverMikePeak Pay is rare in my market, so it’ll have to do. At least it could positive affect my AR? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@TeslaHustle]

Just imagine getting the max $10. Let’s just say the promo for the day was $2.00 for every 5 miles. You would have to drive 25 miles one way plus whatever the base pay and customer tip was. Would it actually be worth it?

[@matthewnanes]

@@TeslaHustle Depends on the total offer/area it's taking me to. I wouldn't take it for the hell of it.

[@larryt510]

Not worth it. You still have to roundtrip back in most cases. The dead mileage will eat up the extra pay and then some

[@YourDriverMike]

Exactly what I don't like about longer rides a bonus on the front end is nice but then what. If you're strategic you can make it work though and try to daisy chain offers back in.

[@larryt510]

@YourDriverMike it all depends on how busy it is. In my area most of the day is very slow and most deliveries turn into round trips back empty. Sometimes I can get a ride back using Uber x or Lyft but many delivery drivers don't do passenger rides

[@XfireKeenmike]

6:40 loophole! Safety reason order would be late and eventually support might instruct to dispose of order. Sure pictures may be requested by support and with a good imaginative story, you win. Several cops pulling over a person you could park near and talk to a cop innocent conversation while telling delivery support for safety reasons you would be late with order as witness or any valid safety reason. I like thinking of way out side the box ideas I have little courage pulling off.

[@YourDriverMike]

Anything outside of real circumstances could be construed as fraud aka making up a story to avoid contract violations. A Dasher can probably say these things a few times to support but if repeated, support would probably use their own discretion. I can't say for sure what they'd do because they have to believe a Dasher to a degree.

[@XfireKeenmike]

your are correct, valid safety reasons for safety support. so, did you deliver or dispose your tornado delayed delivery?

[@Bit01]

So they were claiming they were paying based on distance this whole time, but that was a lie.

[@YourDriverMike]

Base pay is only partly based on distance yes

[@Bit01]

@@YourDriverMike Unless there's a higher tip, then it's $2 or less. I have more screenshots of it every day.

[@stevewoodyt]

4:32 I did a papa John’s hand to me double the other day and it prompted me with an example photo to take a picture of the customer holding the food. On both of them. I don’t recall exactly but it said something like take a picture of the food in the customers hands. Both in upper middle class neighborhoods that I go to regularly. Maybe it’s just a pizza thing? I don’t really do pizza.

[@YourDriverMike]

If you see that again please send me a screenshot: [e-mail]

[@victormcbrideii2327]

Saw it once this week in Grand Rapids, MI

[@YourDriverMike]

Thanks for sharing!

[@ericberry6557]

They don't say time period because they are probably going to apply this to longer distance orders all the time

[@rappy90]

I think a lot when placing orders just don't pay attention to what they select for delivery method. I've had some select 'leave at door' but write in the comments 'please meet me out front' or they'd select 'hand it to me' but write 'just leave it on the step' etc.

[@YourDriverMike]

100% I get that a lot

[@SarahS-g3y]

That is so annoying, people go the extra step to write that in the notes and not select the appropriate drop off. Like why leave it “meet at door” but write in the notes to leave it!?

[@tomgursslin8583]

Nothing more annoying than getting the same order twice y’all already took a ding for denying it the first time and then you get it again so if you accept it, does that mean you took the ding and you still accepted it what you could’ve accepted in the first place, so that’s like a double dingif you deny it again

[@MockingjayYT]

I got the same offer 5 times the other day. Damn DD clowns 🤡

[@YourDriverMike]

So is it really that slow that there's NO other offers to send before that one plus did that offer really go through ALL other available Dashers and get declined to send it back to you? And if so wouldn't Base Pay increase per their own definition? hmm

[@TeslaHustle]

I notice with Uber that if they send you a bad offer, you won’t get any new offers until you or another driver takes it OR they will try to sneak it into another offer that appears to like “good”.

[@LamarMcFarlaneMusic]

Distance pay, what happens if I take a different route that’s quicker, less miles, but requires a higher traffic speed.

[@TeslaHustle]

More than likely, I feel like it would be adjusted because they would claim that it violated their TOS agreement and find a way to deactivate you for being smarter than them.

[@joeybaseballs4424]

Hey Mike great video. I’ve been doing a lot more shopping orders. Mainly on UE and DD. What in your opinion do you think is an acceptable payout for shop and pay orders? $10, $15+? I know you teach that on regular food delivery orders to aim for $7+. What about for stacks? Thanks as always for all your help.

[@bestwarrior4630]

Wow, in Phoenix DD is soooo shitti. I’ve got today $4 for 8 miles,and $5 for 9 miles. Declining them I don’t have any other. But!!!! DD sent me “invite your friends” and got $ 20 bonus 🤯 DD, really?!!!!

[@YourDriverMike]

Yeah firstly that is a LOW referral bonus. Are you multi-apping as well?

[@TeslaHustle]

Currently in market place (Greenville, SC) they are offering $900 for you, $600 for them once they complete 290 deliveries in 60 days. I have a screenshot. I wondered why it got slow in the last couple weeks. DoorDash prioritizing them in my opinion.

[@chrisbooy]

Well Mike.... if the distance pay was $3.30 per 5 miles and on and was pro rata per mile (not capping where it adds $3.30 if you hit 5 miles and then it adds it on)..... thats $0.66 per mile as you said... the distance pay for 2.1 miles should have been $1.39 rounding up, not $1.25 shown on the payout.... either you said the wrong miles, or the math ain't mathing and you should be calling it out instead of talking about tornados. Im sorry man, but be straight with your audience.

[@YourDriverMike]

Guessing it's because estimated miles on the offer card are not exact and depend on the route taken by the Dasher. I'll see if I can get more info on that

[@nala3038]

He is

[@JeffCollins-z3t]

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[@tyharris9994]

Avocados blue menacingly seven aluminum. Hopefully that clarifies things.

[@DRAVIN53]

That’s already working in California it’s 35 c a mile

[@Jbig1430]

Why do distance pay when you can just add it to the base pay

[@YourDriverMike]

Guessing it's to get higher acceptance ratings on mid/farther trips

[@TeslaHustle]

I thought the same thing. DoorDash is doing any and everything to not raise the base pay and if they do, no more promos and incentive. Their mindset is to pay what they owe us over time piece by piece

[@BigL718]

This whole system needs to be redesigned. You have to make over $2 per mile to replace the car

[@BigL718]

They can do this

[@mng519]

I've had that, where DD said to take a photo of the receipt for the first time for me the other night. It's so stupid because it's only the 1 delivery. Then back to the way it was before for all the rest. Is it the norm or just once in a while? Make up your mind DD!

[@YourDriverMike]

Once they start they'll go on a streak of asking for receipt pictures, it'll disappear then it'll come back.

[@LamarMcFarlaneMusic]

I will not be taking a photo of the customer in any away. DoorDash needs a better strategy.

[@justplaintiredofitall]

Uber eats 17 minutes for $2.06 that breaks down to about $7.00 hr...

[@ericberry6557]

Or instead of playing all semantics just come out and say there will be more baseball for longer distance orders just make it simple door dash. I have not seen the more pay more miles but I have gotten extra pay for going outside my zone

[@fritzduval]

Mike, your like a Weed break down expert, sure you ain't puff puffing on this video..😅😅😅

[@XanianEmpire]

I just made meatball subs from scratch for the Steelers game. Go Steelers!!

[@YourDriverMike]

I just checked the score last night

[@bmills5824]

I enjoyed a couple trips yesterday. More money is always good. Sounds like earn by time isn’t working? Or maybe they are going to restrict it a little more!!? Something is coming…. 😮

[@YourDriverMike]

EBT does get locked out before EPO at least from what I see

[@bmills5824]

@@YourDriverMike yes. Now that I’m no longer platinum. I do see that the majority of the time when I can dash the available option is EBO. Which has been a blessing in disguise. Every once in a while when I schedule a shift to start at 6:30 AM. EBT is available.

[@ericberry6557]

I bet u still get a contract violation foe the late delivery

[@YourDriverMike]

Don't you put that energy out there 😂 just checked I'm good now

[@BigL718]

Someone needs to tell doordash when a store like Papa Johns take 2 hrs to cook food to shut the store off. Remove it from the app. Every single order after 2hours is like $25 dollars for 3 miles. Who's paying the 25? Doordash is.

[@bevandted]

I do these apps full time as single mom most days $10 per hour not incliding gas it went way down 😅 anyone know what camera i need erc need to start recording 4 yrs into these apps

[@lepnin]

It depends on the area for my area distance pay woulkd work

[@robertp7925]

The point is to confuse you into taking more upside down offers.

[@YourDriverMike]

I could see some drivers getting confused, it's too wordy

[@TeslaHustle]

I agree. DoorDash got word that a good percentage of us is using our brains with these orders that they are sending us and figured out that we can use quick math to determine to base rate and any possible tip that the customer may of added.

[@tyharris9994]

It's all a game of 3 card Monte and they are just moving the cards around.

[@doubled3962]

I just checked my APP and the have 3 of those promos in my area for just tonight .. and we are expecting a little snow ❄️ I’m not gonna bite .. be safe Dashers 🙏🙏🙏

[@YourDriverMike]

Getting our first snow right now in Pittsburgh. Yes safety #1. I remember years ago like 2016 I was driving rideshare in my Dodge Caliber in heavy snow. Not the best move even with the crazy multiplier pay. On relatively level roads I can drive in snow all day but steep hills are an animal even with AWD. Snow tires help greatly though

[@jok7679]

I like to see mile drive

[@dragoslumz4958]

Lol to the comments I love yall 😂

[@edmor127]

Dude...."why is the pay so High".....11 dollars for 30 mins is not high pay......what the hell.....we are driving our own cars!!!!!

[@YourDriverMike]

That's $3.59 per mile, that is most certainly a high paying offer and would say so if this was on Dasher Rewards. General operational cost is $.67 per business mile for the standard mileage deduction. This is a high margin offer. Quoted to take 23 minutes or $29.87/hr trending.

[@DiablosDeliveries]

Tell ‘em Mike

[@TeslaHustle]

Yes, the pay per mile is excellent but the time is terrible. You want need to get another offer that’s about the same but we all know how that goes. DoorDash would give you an offer of less than $6.00 and if you don’t accept it, you would have that timeout period of them not giving you any orders.

[@edmor127]

@@YourDriverMike This utilized time pay is BS.....we work on time...if im out there 8 hours burning gas and putting in time I calculate pay by time...period...

[@Mmkof836]

Compare what you say right now to 4years ago lol

[@legendvalley]

more confusion good grief 🤔

[@OGKushBurn]

DoorDash is so dogshit don’t waste your time I quit after years of doing it it’s only gotten worse and will continue to get worse found a better job that pays more life goes on 😊

[@kileNoe]

Pinching pennies again