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[@ryanmumbower3035]

This guy seems like a jerk. Saying you worry about you and I'll worry about me. And then basically saying if we don't do shit like this we aren't living fruitful lives lol. Unsubscribed

[@jax597]

@ryan get off the couch

[@EvenDarker]

Thank you so much!

[@digitalSixer]

*triggered... lol

[@codered2224]

😭🤣🤣🤣

[@christopherharvey1204]

Calm Down sensitive one. 🙃

[@Mnemo85]

God this looks awful. I love it.

[@billsanders9387]

He made it. We love it too.

[@breakbad9753]

@@billsanders9387 I don’t think we’d be seeing it if he didn’t make it lol 😉

[@RaccoonNation]

I enjoyed this from the safety of my home with a chonky raccoon on my lap. Thank you Calvin for entertaining us.

[@billsanders9387]

Is that a pet or a recipe?

[@RaccoonNation]

@@billsanders9387 I adopted her so she’s my raccoon daughter 🦝🦝🦝

[@RaccoonNation]

@@billsanders9387 I suspect you understand since you’re the father to a caveman 😂🇺🇸🦝

[@andrzejnowak3619]

We demand you to show us the chonky racoon.

[@92up7]

At least tell us if it tasts good or not...

[@bsharpnack]

These videos are far more terrifying than any horror movie.

[@billsanders9387]

Never watched those, but this is totally real. No makeup even. 🤪

[@JC_958]

"Oh, I hate this cave"--- Proceeds to crawl into the death trap.

[@jovansierra5607]

You should definitely do more pov shots they show the size of the cave better and it’s more scary😂

[@billsanders9387]

We have a great video coming. Beware!

[@willlaflam]

My anxiety levels are just about maxed out watching you do that super tight stuff. You're a brave guy. Awesome vid

[@crazyscooterinvisiblerider925]

you know its a good video when "caveman hikes" or "even darker" uploads. Great job again!

[@billsanders9387]

Wait til you see the next main channel video. We’re having fun, and your nice comments are appreciated.

[@markrobinson1897]

Sends my anxiety soaring as the route gets tighter

[@watchlearnrepeat7801]

Love the content and adventures! Keep it up!

[@billsanders9387]

Keep up going down. Love it.

[@Zombie-is6wk]

Thank you for giving such great content. I love watching you guys go on your adventures.

[@billsanders9387]

And we’ve come to appreciate your great comments.

[@Jaytwisty23]

Always makes my day when I get a notification from caveman hikes or even darker, they have quickly become my favourite channels. Already can't wait for the next one

[@billsanders9387]

Kind words. If only making the videos ready to upload was as fun as caving. 🤪

[@johncaudill4736]

It is absolutely amazing how my anxiety levels go up watching you explore these caves. I use to go caving a lot. Just crazy. Be safe!

[@godblackheart]

I liked the flipped around view and seeing kinda what you see as you do. Gives the illusion of going through it. Very awesome.

[@billsanders9387]

And tough to do…but glad you enjoyed it.

[@yimmyhernandez3793]

I love these claustrophobic videos you do

[@cavemanjacob2489]

Thank you

[@Rowena1712]

I can only watch these really tight caves with the sound off lol. The grunts and struggling noises makes me cringe more and kicks in my claustrophobia, but I just love watching anyway. Also, Calvin and Jacob seem like some of the nicest people I’ve come across. 😊😊

[@rudyschurmann6211]

I am always amazed by your videos. have said it several times. thank you for letting us enjoy this world beneath our feet. I hope we get to see more of it.

[@billsanders9387]

Can’t wait to show some video of the latest challenge. Huge and stunning cave. Eye of the needle entrance.

[@holekholek]

Your hobby is very entertaining to watch, because it feels so alien to people who don't do this kind of stuff. Hard to even imagine that I would crawl in such an extremely confined space that goes for so long. Thanks for another cool video!

[@billsanders9387]

Nice comment. The incredible beauty of these caves keep us entertained too.

[@Retired11Hotel]

Thank God there are people like you who are brave enough to venture into these depths & share this amazing footage & experience with us ❤️ I love the Captain Caveman sticker on your helmet too!

[@billsanders9387]

Three generations of our family cave. We thank God for that and for nice viewers.

[@starlite3597]

so true

[@KashMunni120]

I'm a new subscriber and I must say, every thing about these videos is simply astounding, refreshing and enriching.

[@EvenDarker]

Yeah thank you so much those are very kind words.

[@thoraxian]

You guys who do this are truly inspiring I admit I could never do this but watching your videos is compulsive viewing well done and stay safe

[@billsanders9387]

Try caving once, and you’ll really understand “compulsive”. We are a few notches past addictive.

[@publicalias8172]

@@billsanders9387 Crazy as fuck all of you lmao! ♥

[@DaveDoingDaveThings]

I loved seeing the forward facing footage! It's great to see how confined you are but getting a caver's eye view that isn't extremely shakey is very interesting and lots of fun

[@billsanders9387]

It’s super tough to do, but the skin will grow back on my arm. 🤪

[@temporalcasualty]

Another incredible video! Loved the front facing POV. Felt like I was in there! Keep being awesome guys.

[@billsanders9387]

Thanks. It’s tough to do, but it came out ok.

[@adammcguinness9950]

Whoo Hoo! I love these videos.

[@motoprof1441]

I think this video ranks as one of the tightest squeezes you've done so far. Those lava field caves don't look like fun. Thanks for another great video and it was good to see your elder again.

[@cavemanjacob2489]

Yes grandpa bill, the legend that everyone loves. People are always glad to see him in out videos

[@jurassicjims]

Another great video 👏🏻 I think the thought of crawling over that floor is just as bad a the toght tunnel 😬 stay safe !

[@billsanders9387]

Our knees totally agree!!

[@Eyes_In_Your_Darkness]

This is scary and crazy !!! You guys are awesome!!!

[@billsanders9387]

We’re probably scary and crazy too. Thanks for watching

[@CarlosDangerTheThird]

Love both of your channels.

[@EvenDarker]

Thank you!

[@rayburton6049]

Watching your videos makes me glad I'm clostrphobic great as always

[@billsanders9387]

What? We have you signed up for a super belly crawler! 🤪

[@IsaacNelson54]

I always thought I was claustrophobic but after watching all these videos I've been able to explore some tight caves of my own in Iowa! I really enjoy both of your channels and I wish I was in the caves with you lol

[@billsanders9387]

But now, we wanna cave with our Iowa friend. Let us know about your adventures.

[@illomens2766]

if you can do this then you're definitely not claustrophobic

[@paiigexnailz]

This is insane and I love it!!

[@billsanders9387]

We notice you have watched a few. Caution: Insanity may be from exposure to caving videos. 🤪🤪

[@chamathkaarunodi572]

You guys are in another level hats off for you

[@rollinsomethingbutiforgot]

I wish I could go caving with you guys 🍻 You're the coolest guy alive in my books 😎 Love your videos as always!!

[@kenkaniff6142]

Man that is absolutely nuts. Don’t know if many people have an idea of what goes into making these vids. Going back just to grab more footage of certain caves? That’s dedication to the craft. Yeah, it’s about time to send some funds on over so young Jacob can go to school. I realize you guys love to do this, but on the other hand what a pain in the ass to film all this to bring us cool stuff to watch. I’ll be sending what I can in the next week or so. Amazing. Good work nonetheless.

[@billsanders9387]

Thanks Ken. This sport is not attracting many new crawlers. Jacob is a quiet gentleman in public…a natural beast underground.

[@garyclemons1129]

Keep up the good work buddy be safe 👍

[@billsanders9387]

We need to use s a f e as an acronym for something about caving. Any ideas? 🤔

[@donnawheeldon9880]

Just come across your videos had to subscribe ithink your incredibly brave iam hucket and can't stop watching just love ❤ it

[@EvenDarker]

Welcome to the dark frontier.

[@petkoyanakiev244]

Hi .Greetings from Bulgaria! Well i do not understand this caving stuff, but if you enjoy it keep doing it sir! Lets god protect you and your family.

[@terranhealer]

Awesome 👌

[@American_Savage]

First video I watched of yours, I hated. I couldn’t stand the claustrophobia. After watching about an hour of your videos, I understand and respect what you’re doing. I actually feel like I could give this a try but with a professional caver like yourself leading the way. This is now one of my favorite channels. Keep it up!

[@billsanders9387]

Please include us in your American Savage family. I think we qualify. Let’s go caving.

[@gabrielmoreno9455]

Man, I can't even enter the MRI without having a claustrophobic attack. I could never do it. Good luck out there!

[@lightworkerentertainment1890]

Holy shit man! Respect!

[@88pamukprenses88]

Dude, just...wow! Amazing.

[@billsanders9387]

Our knees had another expression. 🤪

[@88pamukprenses88]

@@billsanders9387 I can only imagine . Ouch 😭

[@ricosmoove2736]

It felt like I was in there with you I was happy as hell to see bill at the end there 😂😂😂

[@josephbyrd7836]

As someone who is bigger and does HVAC for a living, I will never complain about a tight crawlspace again. Always amazed at what you guys do and always look forward to new content! I try to soak these things up because eventually they will sadly be gone. Thanks for all the hard work that we get to enjoy without going through the discomfort. Lol

[@EvenDarker]

These caves are free air conditioning in a way. Super cold all year round! The milder caves can be lived in your round. They keep a room temperature no matter what. Provided that's the average ambient outside air temperature.

[@josephbyrd7836]

I’ve been in a few caves but nothing very tight. The temperature usually suits me pretty well as I prefer colder weather. That’s tough to find in Kentucky so I’m right at home underground where it’s cool. But once again, many thanks for all the content and knowledge you share. The natural beauty you guys find underground is absolutely breathtaking. Keep up the amazing work!

[@bobrosstwin5373]

Dude when you were crawling down that hole feet first I’d been scared shitless lol awesome work tho makes me really want to get back out there in the underground I miss it.

[@TheNeonWalker]

you do get yourself into some snug situations. 😆🙂👍I greatly enjoy your videos👍👍

[@markm7631]

Literally not enough money in the world! You are amazing man!

[@billsanders9387]

Money is vane. Caving is priceless!! Thanks for watching

[@AlexSpratt-uh6ve]

I weirdly have been watching these videos before bed and it's almost soothing. Accept for that occasional dream you feel like your suffocating

[@JacobTFuller]

Classic dad griping. Enjoyed the vid as usual

[@billsanders9387]

Dad here. That’s my part in such a tight cave. I do other caves as an average 74 yr old spelunker would.

[@JacobTFuller]

@@billsanders9387 oh I didn't mean the struggling, meant when he was replying to people telling him what he should do in the comments

[@Dmowery5036]

Holy cow!!! That’s all but skull dragging tight. It’s been several years since I’ve been caving. I really enjoyed it. I’ve been in some tight spots but nothing like that.... I don’t think. I was smaller then too. Ha ha! Great video!!

[@billsanders9387]

C’mon, bro. Get back in the game. We have found super remote entrances just waiting for you. 🤗

[@Dmowery5036]

@@billsanders9387 I’d like too. None of our old caving group gets together anymore to go.

[@billsanders9387]

Where are you located?

[@Dmowery5036]

@@billsanders9387 Grant County West Virginia. I grew up in Franklin WV. Lots of caves in Pendleton county. Over 60 I believe.

[@MetalDetectoristMick]

I absolutely enjoy your videos and at the same time I am terrified. I couldn't do it do you are doing it for me. 😅

[@thebrunoserge]

ONE day you'll manage to get stuck, we believe in you!!! Keep going TIGHTER and TIGHTER

[@EvenDarker]

We are really trying. I'm beginning to think that getting stuck is an internet myth.

[@proudchristian77]

Brave souls ! 💖 👏 ty 4 sharing! It's kinda fun if your watching, : )

[@HOT8CHOCOLAT3]

To record and do this at the same time is impressive.

[@billsanders9387]

Thanks much. Hope we are improving.

[@digitalSixer]

That was like a rebirth experience struggling through those tight spaces. Then to see your father's face anticipating your arrival! LOL, Consider yourself born again!!

[@billsanders9387]

Fun comment. You can apply that spiritual too. Caveman Bth Cum Laude.

[@ryansmurda1552]

Love your videos. I was just curious do you ever go caving alone and if so what safty precautions do you take? How many extra flashlights do you bring? Do you give someone a map of where you will be in the cave? Things of that nature.

[@billsanders9387]

We occasionally cave alone, especially to locate new cave entrances. We carry enough extra light gear for a couple days in a two hour cave. We let friends in the caving community know where and when, and when we return. Good questions. Are you ready to try a cave? 🤪

[@bunneybeast]

I'm not that claustrophobic but I could not do what you do. I absolutely love your videos but please be safe!! 🙏

[@billsanders9387]

Mostly we are safe…by caving standards. Thanks for watching

[@terrybressler4654]

Lots of respect for what your doing. When I was a kid we used to go into the J4 cave in Pleasant Gap PA . I don't remember ever feeling claustrophobic then but I was also 85lbs lighter. Now just watching you increases my anxiety level to the point where I know it isn't something I could do again. Now I would be more like a cork in a bottle instead of moving easily through a cave. I saw a video of the J4 the other day and was real disappointed at all the graffiti and damage I saw that was not in that cave 40yrs ago

[@billsanders9387]

That’s exactly why we never disclose the location of the caves we explore. At least you remember how fun caving can be. Thanks for watching

[@Mr.Savage14]

You've given theres a light at the end of the tunnel a whole new meaning! I also have to say your core is extremely strong and ur a very brave man!

[@madinarose4757]

the speed you do that crawl at is incredible 😮

[@EvenDarker]

Ha! Thanks. I was think I'm much much quicker without the gear and video stuff. I feel like a snail.

[@kingjamesgorden3]

Hope you guys are still staying safe and having fun! I assume you buy red sweatshirts in bulk? Ha! I was thinking you guys should get a logo to throw on some of your gear, helmets maybe because they don’t wear as hard? It would be unique and fun for the viewers too.

[@jcoopdo]

This one is so much to deal with. Personally like when you just let it roll. Whatever you find or get into however boring you may think it is, isn't for the viewer. It's authentic. So if one cave is sort of lame, it's justbwhat it is. Or if it ends up being something that's crazy andncrawly then it's still entertaining. I'd worry less about edits and peicing stories, and just roll with it. Not all of them obviously, but if you don't have that type of time, but still want to make content I know personally I'm watching it regardless. It's about you guys and what your doing. Cause i sure as shit aren't caving in things like this or most of the stuff that you guys get into

[@EvenDarker]

I think some you tubers try to make videos that people like. But this was never our goal. I make videos I like. As an artistic exercise. I don't necessarily care what the public prefers but I am grateful for the viewership. The unused unedited video I used to simply discard. But by requests to be created this second channel for those raw or unfinished videos. Some people do much prefer them. I guess everybody has an option now!

[@G_R4]

Hello, I'm Thai who likes to watch your videos so much I don't like the narrow but I still watch your videos😁

[@billsanders9387]

Been to your country. It is beautiful…and there are cavers there. Thanks for watching

[@soundertillidie]

I hate this cave...proceeds to go deeper in the cave. Calvin you are amazing. Your thoughts on life are appreciated. The effort you exert to show us a good time. Grateful for your channel. Grateful you are in the tiny cavity ane not me.

[@EvenDarker]

Well Those are very kind words thank you.

[@NooDLES411911]

This dude must be the calmest person on earth.

[@spangdeez498]

At the 12:07 mark is ALL it takes for you to be Jon Jonesed in there… just a little piece of lava that fell outta place and you’re toast in there… GLAD you weren’t the first to do it my man’s- SCARY!

[@codered2224]

Absolutely beast mode

[@repeatitwithme4481]

Making hardcore look easy!!! Insanely tight spaces chief. Underground bada**

[@billsanders9387]

Liking the underground more all the time. Thanks much!

[@donnawheeldon9880]

I felt your slight panic when you was going backwards down that hold but was amazed how you kept calm and pulled you way back up wow you must have power of the mind /iwas wondering if you do breathing exercises?

[@EvenDarker]

Not specific breathing excersizes... but lots of cardio and we practice staying calm. Incedentally, from grappeling, Ive learned to breath via inflating my back, rather than my belly.

[@donnawheeldon9880]

@@EvenDarker that's a skill in itself ❤

[@navydogsadventures3500]

I would freak out in there but I can't quit watching these.😁, I live in Vancouver Washington.

[@EvenDarker]

So do I

[@navydogsadventures3500]

@@EvenDarker your in Vancouver or freak out? 😂😁

[@Skuffed_Skuff]

seeing what u see is nice. the pov angle.

[@martinstuvland8620]

"So yea, not happy with that take. I think you need to do it upside down in reverse" 😂

[@billsanders9387]

Camera gear is ready, Martin. C’mon down…backwards. 🤗

[@martinstuvland8620]

@@billsanders9387 Now, you see....funny thing is I happen to be bussy that day 🙃 But jokes aside. I have so much respect for what you do. Which is why it's fun to poke fun at in this way. Because it would be absurd to be unhappy with something as trivial as camera angles/takes watching this. At least to me! Have a good one. PS! Out of curiosity. Are you Jacobs father? Since Calvins the one in the video if I've understood correctly.

[@billsanders9387]

I’m Calvin’s (Caveman’s) father. Jacob’s dad, Dan, also caves, but doesn’t do much on camera. Calvin and Jacob do much more than the rest of the family combined. Calvin’s “You worry about you” comment comes from us being now banned from TicToc because someone “worried we were encouraging unsafe activity.” He’s a two tour gulf vet. That was quite unsafe, and this is therapy. Thanks for watching and for your comments.

[@martinstuvland8620]

@@billsanders9387 Aha, thanks for clarifying :). And sad to hear you being banned from TikTok :/. Yea, I can only imagine what actual war does to one. Either way, for my own part. I appreciate you guys making the videos you do and taking time to engage in the community. Which isn't a given. And for having a common sense approach to all the social media hyperbole nonsense. Regardless of how big this channel becomes. I hope you'll keep being as authentic and grounded (pun intended) as you already are! :)

[@qdilly7397]

Have you guys done any caving in Texas? Theres a giant cave system in my home town in Georgetown. Its called inner space caverns. I dont think its even been fully explored but from what they found so far its HUGE!

[@Keith_1]

Most enjoyable and scary

[@billsanders9387]

Interesting combination. We agree.

[@miketausig4205]

Contrary to what some internet rando says on this thread, this is a virtual lesson in speleology. It can’t be easy talking while you’re squeezing the toothpaste back in to the tube, but I appreciate all the pointers and nuggets of knowledge. I’m working terribly hard at my claustrophobia, and the more I learn, the more ammunition I have in that battle. Cheers.

[@EvenDarker]

Lol, so true. If the going gets real tough, we put the video away.

[@miketausig4205]

@@EvenDarker question on the video though…initially, I thought you were alone in the cave, as I missed the first moment or two the first time I watched it through. When I replayed it (to hear something you said a second time) I noticed the video started with you talking to another person. When talking about caving safety protocol, is it considered “enough” to go caving alone as long as someone else knows where you are, or is “the rule” to never go spelunking alone? You are obviously experienced, but also, obviously, is the fact that some things happen beyond our control. How would you comment on the above?

[@VehiclesvsfordDEEP]

This guy is amazing. Smallest hole get in and out . Fabulous

[@craighardcastle1694]

Gt a lump in my throat god damn awsome. 🤣🤣🤣❤️👊wat a view. Thankyou.

[@dtrapbai9030]

I saw one of ur B- rolls earlier.. neat.

[@coolinwithlaura4114]

Love the videos as usual but why does the cover photo on your page look like 3 attorneys of dark darker and darkest

[@EvenDarker]

Because I don't want our best dressed day to be in a casket.

[@coolinwithlaura4114]

@@EvenDarker good reason I love it I do small caves and u are an inspiration

[@sirrasmus7435]

Me and My girlfriend is allways out and making fire and stuff. We love you. Love from Danmark

[@EvenDarker]

We should visit Denmark. Beautiful country with beautiful caves! And beautiful people.

[@ummmm3939]

The fact that he’s doing this alone is crazy

[@billsanders9387]

Papa wasn’t far away. He does funerals.

[@GLmig]

@@billsanders9387 yes. He could call the Slimer family member if you got stuck and he could come down and make fun of you before helping you out :p

[@christopherharvey1204]

Man! You are Crazy! 🙃

[@billsanders9387]

Certified

[@jcee2259]

What we do has say one way or another. I'd strolled down into a wooded slope but paused when hearing water moving. Odd as no liquid was in view. But past a bush at my toes there was an opening. A well-like shaft. Which would swallow me. Instead I bent my spine and looked. Seeing nothing but darkness below. But it was noisy.. Humm. I need to return with SRT gear after the winter wet season ends.

[@SCOTTISH-ACE]

Wow great vid but duno how you do it tbh makes me nervous watching but aye like it with same

[@NooDLES411911]

Even if this was on flat ground and a 10ft tunnel to crawl through, i still wouldnt do it.

[@gatormccluskey3708]

I need to know, do you ever get the feeling at any point like you have to stand up like now? I find my heart beating fast sometimes when I watch you thinking of that. It is a rush for me, but I can get up and walk out for a few minutes where you can't!

[@EvenDarker]

It's not too bad if you can lay down. I don't like being cramped up in a ball for very long but if you're laying down your body's stretched out and it's not too uncomfortable. You can't ever get the urge for anything you have to be patient. No matter what. You can't fight those rocks.

[@annabella.b.9547]

Gosh this one had me clenching my bum cheeks and curling my toes especially from 8.00 😱 😨 please be careful and look after your selves, dear ones ❤

[@shaneturner8073]

Thats a nope from me lol.faaaaark that.i admire your bravery.i get claustrophobic watching it.g'day for Oz.🇦🇺

[@jcoopdo]

Also, newer iPhones have lidar, you can digitally map an entire cave and make 3d models pretty quickly unless the caves are like massive tall rooms type things.

[@EvenDarker]

We have several videos of android phone based lidar mapping. 100% of my cave mappung for the last 3 years has been phone based scanning. I find it to be very accurate, especially for smaller caves. Though I do back it up with dedicated lasers. Glad to hear that iphones have that now as well.

[@33993]

Ever thought of doing the same thing but underwater with an oxygen tank exploring some submerged cave? That would be 100 times scarier and fascinating as well

[@EvenDarker]

We have videos of doing that but without an oxygen tank. And the water was close to freezing. And it was in a tube.

[@richperdue9344]

I think entering into an unknown tunnel that narrows down and doesn't allow you to turn around would be a problem.

[@EvenDarker]

It never is!

[@apartment3]

There is no greater satisfaction then to see these guys get back out of the cave.

[@EvenDarker]

It's the exact opposite satisfaction for us. We are satisfied when we get to go into a cave. Our hopes and dreams end when we have to leave. ; )

[@davefk]

What Go Pro are you using? Your video looks great.

[@EvenDarker]

Thank you. I use a number of different cameras. The GoPro I'm currently using is 9. And I do find it to be the first excellent gopro. Good video good sound good image stabilization and it even has a viewfinder that faces forward. It's far superior to any GoPro that came before it. I'd argue that there hasn't been a good GoPro until the GoPro 9.

[@johnajames6893]

I'm the crawling king snake, an i rule my den.

[@matthewjames1097]

In these tight squeezes where you can't turn around headfirst have you ever had to crawl out out backwards? Looks like abit of distance 😁

[@billsanders9387]

Many times. It’s not easy at all, but at least we have a general idea of the terrain. Our knees prefer we keep this at a minimum.

[@stephenrodriguez8307]

How many unmarked/unmapped caves do you go in vs marked/mapped caves?

[@EvenDarker]

Probably ends up being about 50/50.

[@ThePunchDrunkard.]

Have you ever thought of using a 360 camera? Then you can change your angle at will in post?? I recommend the insta360

[@EvenDarker]

We have several videos on this channel and the main channel that were filmed with 360 cameras.

[@Rowena1712]

Did you ever have a real panic attack when you first went down these tight lava tubes. I think I’d lose the battle with my wits as soon as I let my mind go to my situation i.e. unable to move freely/stretch out etc. How do you cope?😮😮

[@EvenDarker]

Patience is the trick. When you're in a situation.., the body does want to panic... But that's just cause you want to leave. You can't leave or fight the rock in a hurry. You just have to force yourself to be patient and slowly work yourself in or out. Patients will almost never fail you.

[@stephaniespragg1868]

I would be terrified my light would go out

[@billsanders9387]

Oh..just found four more lights in my pocket. (The total darkness is really an awesome experience).

[@jcee2259]

What I saw explains what I'd seen in British Columbia.

[@EvenDarker]

Lot of nice caves in bc.

[@jcee2259]

@@EvenDarker True. I'm looking at valley slopes above Chilliwack Lake Road and more karst above Chilliwack Lake. Don't know yet if it extends southward into the USA. Slopes rise into alpine snow between now and June, usually. Elk herds graze amid temperate glades and meadows. Haven't heard wolf howls yet. Woodland coyote noise sounds closer and louder in winter...