PTR 91 Field Strip (HK G3 Clone)

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The PTR 91 series of rifles are essentially HK91 clones that are built here in the USA on old Portuguese tooling. The rifles are priced right and shoot well, and many people are rediscovering the joys of roller delayed blowback as a result of their being on the market. So what do the guts look like, and how do you get to them?
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@RobertSmith-le8wp
@RobertSmith-le8wp 8 жыл бұрын
I love the classic look. I hate it so much when people try to make everything tacticool and throw rails on everything
@TheTyrial86
@TheTyrial86 8 жыл бұрын
Some people do that so they can actually use it...
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 8 жыл бұрын
+TheTyrial86 Believe it or not, I can actually use this gun without 10 pounds of tactical crap!
@TheTyrial86
@TheTyrial86 8 жыл бұрын
TFB TV​ That's nice. Are you going to tell me that rails have no function what so ever?? What about those scope mounts??? You know what you can try another way to mount a scope on most rifles. Without using rails. Nice try on making anyone who puts a rail on their rifle out be a tactical ninja. 
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 8 жыл бұрын
TheTyrial86 Never said any of that. Just that this rifle in my hands is perfectly capable as is.
@TheTyrial86
@TheTyrial86 8 жыл бұрын
TFB TV Oh come on really?? This rifle is perfectly capable in your hands without 10lbs, of tactical crap... yeah okay dude. Have fun with Irons... I hate people who buy a gun then bash others for buying theirs for a purpose Robert Smith​.
@reddevilparatrooper
@reddevilparatrooper 7 жыл бұрын
The G-3 series are very reliable rifles that even Portuguese soldiers serving in combat in Africa in the 1960s thru the 1970s hardly ever cleaned their rifles other than wipe them down unless they were forced to by their officers or NCOs to clean them.Unlike the German Army their G-3s were spotless from using theirs at the Hammellburg Infantry School.When i was in Northern Iraq the Kurds love these rifles too because a lot of them are captured Iranian G-3A2s.The Iranian ones still shot well with replacement parts coming from Turkey or Pakistan.When i came back from Iraq in 2008 i bought a PTR-91 for my own because the original HK 91s were beyond my price range.My PTR is begging me from the safe to go out to the range right now.Meanwhile i have to go to Ventura Munitions to buy some some food for it along with refreshments.Great video again Alex and crew!!!
@nmarques7885
@nmarques7885 7 жыл бұрын
The FBP G3A3 m/963 was a very resilient weapon and required minimum maintenance on the field. Once you were back to base don't even think on surrendering your service weapon without proper maintenance or full of mud/dust. During the Overseas War, there was probably one distinction, while Fuzileiros (Mariners) had pretty much 'no questions asked' access to weapons, other branches like the Air Force or Army were responsible for their weapons. Bad serviced weapons or with missing parts could lead you to fort prison. You probably heard your story from an ex-mariner ;) There was even this sort of Mantra that your G3 was your new girlfriend and you were required to treat her well (in the scope of the mentality of the time).
@reddevilparatrooper
@reddevilparatrooper 7 жыл бұрын
Outstanding insight!!Now i just need to get more ammunition when i go to the range this week.I just bought 10 more magazines for my PTR 91.
@inocenciaherrerasantos7314
@inocenciaherrerasantos7314 3 жыл бұрын
"Portugueses" cetme
@adammcdonald7268
@adammcdonald7268 7 жыл бұрын
Really reminds me of the STG 44.
@christopherzarcone1363
@christopherzarcone1363 5 жыл бұрын
Also designed by the same team
@subarunatsuki4145
@subarunatsuki4145 5 жыл бұрын
Because G-3 is son of STG-44
@somebodysomewhere4943
@somebodysomewhere4943 5 жыл бұрын
@Robert Shaffer you can't be any more wrong than what you just said
@justaguywhoplaysfalloutsom1104
@justaguywhoplaysfalloutsom1104 4 жыл бұрын
AllTerrain Guy designed by the same nazis
@Ahmad-oi9cu
@Ahmad-oi9cu 3 жыл бұрын
Specifically with that wooden stock
@ApertureDG
@ApertureDG 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Alex! One good advice from a military user of this rifle: If you don't want your finger to be broke or even cut off, I strictly recommend you to not put your finger there to check the chamber, without holding a charging handle. There were some talents out there, so, be aware.
@Methalec1985
@Methalec1985 Жыл бұрын
I've had two of the Norwegian versions when I served in the military. Incredibly reliable, easy to field strip and clean. Packs a punch for sure! There are some sharp edges on it though so if you're field stripping in a hurry, it's easy to cut yourself. Common beginner mistake is to look down too closely to the iron sights... That recoil will give you a black eye for sure!!
@kukluxkarl159
@kukluxkarl159 8 жыл бұрын
Looks nice with the wooden stock.
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 8 жыл бұрын
+Karl Wiesmann Thanks Karl!
@haytxa911
@haytxa911 8 жыл бұрын
+TFB TV Please, do make that video about how to change rollers and change the bolt gap, I just got a PTR and that would be a helpful video indeed.
@Green-Raccoon777
@Green-Raccoon777 Жыл бұрын
@Papa 2070 Let people meme without assuming the worst, man.
@airsoftkiddo
@airsoftkiddo 8 жыл бұрын
during cleaning and maintenance you shall remove and clean trigger group.because if not theree is a real danger the hammer will release itself. not fun. Ihad the G3 as my service weapon for 4 years and I have seen it happen more than a couple times to put it that way.
@neleabels
@neleabels 6 жыл бұрын
I remember doing this all the time in the Bundeswehr, back then in the late 80s. But I winced a bit when you put your finger into the open chamber without keeping the charging handle secured. Those things can sometimes snap loose and the gun will do nasty things with your finger. :)
@StachiBCNR33
@StachiBCNR33 8 жыл бұрын
We can get Bundeswehr Slings here in Germany pretty cheap. They look old and Worn and give every Clone a nice look. Thank God we can have the Paddle Mag Release. Great Video, thanks for that!
@MrGunman11
@MrGunman11 8 жыл бұрын
Any chance of a run and gun vid with this PTR?
@elliottbutts153
@elliottbutts153 8 жыл бұрын
I second that. Would love to see a run and gun with the PTR. I love mine. It is my one and only 7.62 nato battle rifle and has been fantastic. Thx for the vid
@tarkin56
@tarkin56 8 жыл бұрын
I love the run and gun series!
@bozookaBo
@bozookaBo 8 жыл бұрын
it'd be nice to see this gun in action.
@SABjork
@SABjork 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see it pure with the metal trigger group, HK grip and the S-E-F selector. I left the ODG polymer furniture on, but I see the appeal of the wooden Stuermgewehr look and feel.
@D5quared91
@D5quared91 8 жыл бұрын
Love this gun. Excellent stopping power and reliability.
@Hotsoup_
@Hotsoup_ 8 жыл бұрын
Picked one of these up last year with the triangular fore-furniture. Lovely gun. Thanks for the video!
@mchief1906
@mchief1906 8 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite battle rifles ever, thanks for the wooden classic look.
@DrGun-re1kd
@DrGun-re1kd 8 жыл бұрын
I remember these from the '70s. Portugal had a revolution, and gave up its colonies. Some smart men decided to truck as much weaponry as they could to us in Rhodesia. The G4 seemed like an odd rifle to those of us used to the FAL, but many troops liked them. Very helpful video, and a great looking rifle. The trucks contained everything from these to Kropatscheks, and all sort of pistols.
@berserker4940
@berserker4940 2 жыл бұрын
Rhodesians never die
@manbugfranknbeans8755
@manbugfranknbeans8755 8 жыл бұрын
I opted for the gen 2 PTR-32 and I love it. It's been very reliable and accurate. PTR all the way.
@LikaV1996
@LikaV1996 8 жыл бұрын
:D my faithful G3 leaves my shoulder in extreme pain after shooting training at my academy
@levistrauss5378
@levistrauss5378 8 жыл бұрын
My father used to own a HK 91, he never shuts up about how much he loved it.
@donaldcharbonneau3801
@donaldcharbonneau3801 2 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine and I disassembled the bolt group. It was tough to get apart and putting it back together was a chore. Then the rollers wouldn’t retract and later popped out. A trip to the store where purchased and the man told me you don’t have to disassemble it that far. So now, a trip to a gunsmith.
@iamnegan2294
@iamnegan2294 4 жыл бұрын
They chug along rather nicely. Great rifle.
@sailingmaster
@sailingmaster 8 жыл бұрын
I really need to get one of those. Just solid dependable German engineering.
@4x4Moses
@4x4Moses 8 жыл бұрын
I love the PTR91; and after watching this video, I'm not overly concerned that my fumble fingers will foul up the disassembly! Great video.
@winfriedwilcke1705
@winfriedwilcke1705 5 жыл бұрын
But never put your finger into the breech without holding onto the charging handle. If it snaps back, it could hurt your finger badly.
@Rob69rickysdonkey
@Rob69rickysdonkey 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video thank you.
@michaelbullington137
@michaelbullington137 3 жыл бұрын
nicely done.
@John-ro3vu
@John-ro3vu 8 жыл бұрын
You should definitely do a video on checking the bolt gap and changing out the rollers as you mentioned
@isaace8090
@isaace8090 8 жыл бұрын
I have a PTR-91 special edition that came with the classic wood. It's a really nice rifle. I added the G3 bayonet lug, leather sling and Hendsoldt ZF model 1 scope. I still need to get a steel lower to complete the look.
@johnrushing3527
@johnrushing3527 8 жыл бұрын
this is on my bucket list of guns to buy lol. and the wooden furniture definitely looks the best.
@89thaharmaiiioptreshenanig3
@89thaharmaiiioptreshenanig3 3 жыл бұрын
Wood furniture, leather sling. Classy. I’m going to do the same and I’m going to put a carry handle on it as well.
@p47rr
@p47rr 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Springfield sells a updated recoil buffer kit. Factory is designed to handle grenades. It reduces recoil by 25%.
@RaimonD9696
@RaimonD9696 6 жыл бұрын
Also there is a similar gun, but it's made in Sweden and it's name is AK-4 I'm using it right now in the army and it's actually really nice to shoot
@carlitosbenfica
@carlitosbenfica 7 жыл бұрын
Used it in 93 serving the Portuguese navy! Lovely 7.62 rifle!
@PacificAirwave144
@PacificAirwave144 3 жыл бұрын
What a neat rifle. If it for whatever reason stops going bang...you have a quick disconnect system to get at the bolt carrier which can be used to club about anything to death...anything not shooting at you.
@peterfoghnielsen7831
@peterfoghnielsen7831 8 жыл бұрын
IT'S BEAUTIFUL!
@thewolvesbane2536
@thewolvesbane2536 8 жыл бұрын
It truly is
@Quake210
@Quake210 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice rifle and you should absolutely show us how to check the bolt gap.
@MotoErgoSum
@MotoErgoSum 8 жыл бұрын
So simple. Makes me want to get a G3.
@Sorrywhytescaresu
@Sorrywhytescaresu 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@eclectic3618
@eclectic3618 3 жыл бұрын
Love this rifle Mine is a Century/PTR Cetme C308 Sporter. Its actually done quite well. Fit and finish is Great! Its accurate and reliable. Also has the grenade launcher rings on it, which you can use a clip on bipod with. I've taken over a dozen hogs and a couple white tails with it so far. Around 2,500 rounds in 2 years. Only issue was a magazine with a weak spring and sticky follower. Got mine for $650 With Bayonet. Had to replace the muzzle break to a PTR Bird Cage so the bayonet would mount snug. This thing eats anything, Steel, Surplus, Modern. Just keep it Clean. It gets very dirty very fast but will keep running. 500 rounds in 4 hours at the range and when I tore her down it was filthy!!! On a 2 day hunt, under 20 rounds fired and it was still pretty dirty. Easy to clean though. I run an $80 knock off ACOG and it gets the job done lol. No Name Ammo has Cheap 308 steel case I just picked up. Anyway Great Video Brother!!!
@bryanpowell8040
@bryanpowell8040 8 жыл бұрын
great video! subbed. I'd like to see a bolt gap video!
@bradclem6226
@bradclem6226 6 ай бұрын
I did the same thing to mine hated the cheap plastic. I only paid 799 for mine back n the day now they r a 1000. Great rifles.
@wastedangelematis
@wastedangelematis 8 жыл бұрын
so usefull
@halfasoap1172
@halfasoap1172 2 жыл бұрын
mine has a couple different colors of furniture from old G3s. the stock is different from the handguard and grip, and the grip sometimes looks brown when it's in the shade. though i did get one with a Pic rail, i decided that piece of functionality was more important than the classic aesthetic.
@littleteethkeith
@littleteethkeith 8 жыл бұрын
I love it. I want one.
@bachiryammine8033
@bachiryammine8033 8 жыл бұрын
thanks alex for this video i've been waiting for it but how to reassemble the delayed rollerblowback is the issue when i clean my rifle cause the 2 rollers stay always locked tight
@NxCmp
@NxCmp 8 жыл бұрын
Would like to see the bolt gap check video and how to change the rollsers to + size once the gap is beyond tolerance. Would help a good amount of people
@lancermafia1982
@lancermafia1982 7 жыл бұрын
If I ever get one im getting that wooden stock. makes it look better imo.
@eclectic3618
@eclectic3618 Жыл бұрын
Alex C best TFBTV Host ever
@WolfMan-nf4lv
@WolfMan-nf4lv 8 жыл бұрын
The assault rifle in fallout 3 confirmed. Lol
@greatnortoni
@greatnortoni 8 жыл бұрын
Like the vid, and really like the rifle. A question, did changing the trigger to the metal version make any difference in how well the trigger works or just made it more authentic? Thanks again for the vid. OH, & I too would like to see a vid on changing the rollers.
@Xerxes1688
@Xerxes1688 8 жыл бұрын
It would look even better and more old school with a CETME curved magazine.
@L17AR15
@L17AR15 8 жыл бұрын
cool Vid planning on buying a century C308 any opinions on those?
@arbilarmsltd.president3437
@arbilarmsltd.president3437 5 жыл бұрын
pls take some photos with this, I want it as my wallpaper and I can't andy good ones
@ryotaryuu
@ryotaryuu 8 жыл бұрын
some day I'll have one.
@AnthonyBooK
@AnthonyBooK 4 жыл бұрын
G3 is the standard rifle of the Greek Army. Putting the bolt head back is tricky! I remember all recruits struggling to put it back!
@Asertix357
@Asertix357 2 жыл бұрын
I want a PTR 91 rifle now.
@ParaSniper2504
@ParaSniper2504 8 жыл бұрын
I have an actual H&K 91. I am wondering about getting a PTR clone. They were having problems but I wonder if they have been cleared up.
@KindergentlerMr.Softbelly
@KindergentlerMr.Softbelly Жыл бұрын
Nice job
@eclectic3618
@eclectic3618 2 жыл бұрын
I sold mine :^( Found a bubba'd one for $650 with polymer and an AR style buttstock but I plan to put the wood set back on it.
@GraniteMtn618
@GraniteMtn618 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any chance you've got a link for wood stocks for the PTR 101? I have a rail for a sope, to hunt elk with, but I would love to find an all wood build for those green gross things.
@Chiapet2323
@Chiapet2323 8 жыл бұрын
does it get dirty inside the tiger group or no ? any difference from cleaning it from say a mini 14 ?
@juliusoh
@juliusoh 3 жыл бұрын
how do you take the flash hider off
@mikey117us
@mikey117us 8 жыл бұрын
FMP tooling was H&K therefore a very Correct Rifle.
@playerman120
@playerman120 Жыл бұрын
My rolling pins are sticking out to where I can’t put the charging bolt back in
@federicoguzmanlopez667
@federicoguzmanlopez667 2 жыл бұрын
En España tuvimos este fusil como arma reglamentaria en las fuerzas armadas , denominado Cetme mod .C cal.7.62x51 NATO
@morazan1990
@morazan1990 3 жыл бұрын
Do they still make that kind of rifles?
@jerryjohnsonii4181
@jerryjohnsonii4181 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and thanks for showing how to field stripe a PTR 308.
@myoption100
@myoption100 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I find those classic stock and hand guards
@douro20
@douro20 7 жыл бұрын
The PTR logo looks better on this than in the literature...
@brent245
@brent245 8 жыл бұрын
Where can I purchase the metal trigger housing?
@TheMango121
@TheMango121 8 жыл бұрын
"He don't have a Bill Springfield paddle magazine release" *giggles*
@donotthink
@donotthink 6 жыл бұрын
Pulling out the trigger group is part of the field strip taught to us in the Norwegian army.
@orionrodi
@orionrodi 5 жыл бұрын
Also in the danish army!
@winfriedwilcke1705
@winfriedwilcke1705 5 жыл бұрын
In the Luftwaffe as well.
@zcrib3
@zcrib3 8 жыл бұрын
Nicknamed "The Oar"
@davidbeane9130
@davidbeane9130 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that wood furniture!
@davidbeane9130
@davidbeane9130 3 жыл бұрын
Is that cetme furniture or custom?
@iknowmy3tables
@iknowmy3tables 8 жыл бұрын
I bought some unissued CETME wood furniture because I really wanted this look, however the stock was missing all the metal inserts for the sling and dis-assembly pin holders, where could I get those parts?
@therideneverends1697
@therideneverends1697 8 жыл бұрын
+iknowmy3table Pretty much any surplus site. G3 parts are EVERYWHERE.
@meccanica3754
@meccanica3754 8 жыл бұрын
can I get one in Canada or where can I get one deactivated
@ImTHATguy...
@ImTHATguy... 5 ай бұрын
How did you register that sear?
@nmarques7885
@nmarques7885 7 жыл бұрын
You should try to get a 7.62x51mm barrel made in Portugal by FBP to see the difference ;)
@sevenface8881
@sevenface8881 7 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that wooden forend? And is it German?
@ahistoryrelic9736
@ahistoryrelic9736 8 жыл бұрын
do a runing gun with The nambu and with patrik
@astronautindisguise
@astronautindisguise 6 жыл бұрын
Is that a PTR G.I.R or an A3s
@mikethemaniac1
@mikethemaniac1 8 жыл бұрын
is that grease or carbon?
@Lulueh
@Lulueh 8 жыл бұрын
Looking into getting a g3 clone which do you guys recommend ptr 91 or greek sar-8?
@Lulueh
@Lulueh 8 жыл бұрын
TigerTranKungFu any specific reason over a greek sar-8?
@tsukishiro70
@tsukishiro70 8 жыл бұрын
That's the Assault Rifle from Fallout 3. Nice.
@user-pk8bg2lp9k
@user-pk8bg2lp9k 4 жыл бұрын
I ran into a problem while familiarizing myself with the weapon, which I just bought. After removing the bolt group (it dropped right out) I went to put it back in. It won't go back in!!! It stops at those little rollers along the side. What have I done wrong?
@john-michaelfranco4694
@john-michaelfranco4694 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you've figured it out by now, but you basically have to turn the bolt to release it just enough for the rollers to disengage. Its hard on a new rifle. I did the same thing. Lots of people have.
@user-pk8bg2lp9k
@user-pk8bg2lp9k 3 жыл бұрын
John-Michael Franco I did figure it out. Thanks!
@bennettguns3809
@bennettguns3809 4 жыл бұрын
The CETME forend uses a screw not a pin so, how did you do this?
@74nova36
@74nova36 3 жыл бұрын
I had to grind a scallop shape piece out of the front of the wooden hang guard. Nothing too crazy just some hand filing
@74nova36
@74nova36 3 жыл бұрын
And it uses the standard pin it just didn’t fit in the recessed area up front
@MrN1251
@MrN1251 8 жыл бұрын
Can't decide guys help me out, Ruger Precision Rifle, DS Arms FAL/SA58 or PTR91?
@jefekeefsosa4998
@jefekeefsosa4998 8 жыл бұрын
sa 58 or ptr
@nmarques7885
@nmarques7885 7 жыл бұрын
FBP G3A3 m/963 if you can get your hands in the real stuff ;)
@cyberdaemon
@cyberdaemon 8 жыл бұрын
Pin on the trigger housing is a fake? On AK4 if i pull out that pin, the trigger housing becomes loose and the gun just wont easily fire, because trigger housing falls down like few millimeters all the time.
@chobjinnugeert7309
@chobjinnugeert7309 7 жыл бұрын
cyberdaemon its fake, the atf said any HK91/94/93 type firearms with the trigger housing pin are machineguns because they can take original full auto HK trigger housings
@ivanlacasa2418
@ivanlacasa2418 8 жыл бұрын
it looks like the CETME
@servicerifle16
@servicerifle16 8 жыл бұрын
Why is it on civilian HK-style guns they always delete the flapper magazine release?
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 8 жыл бұрын
+Kennard Lang It requires the hole through the flat that allows the gun to accept a full auto trigger group. To install one, smiths have found out that you can drill a hole on one side to install the paddle and still remain in compliance.
@servicerifle16
@servicerifle16 8 жыл бұрын
+TFB TV Same goes do they important any centerfire rifles from Germany anymore, all's I ever see are pistols and .22s. The last centerfire rifles I ever saw that was imported from Germany were SL8s and that one that's based off the UMP(don't know what its called)
@servicerifle16
@servicerifle16 8 жыл бұрын
+Kennard Lang Import*
@goodmanfriend9385
@goodmanfriend9385 8 жыл бұрын
Real reason...lazy and want to save a few bucks
@AnimeFanatic5602
@AnimeFanatic5602 8 жыл бұрын
+Kennard Lang I was just on PTR's website this morning, and new versions of the GI model are coming with the paddle release and 5/8x24 threads.
@inocenciaherrerasantos7314
@inocenciaherrerasantos7314 3 жыл бұрын
Es un cetme por muchas vueltas que le deis
@itabiritomg
@itabiritomg 8 жыл бұрын
how does the hk roller lock work?
@christopherzarcone1363
@christopherzarcone1363 5 жыл бұрын
Leonel Braga there’s a wedged shaped piece in between two circular rollers. When in battery the wedge forces the rollers into locking recesses that hold the bolt shut during firing and releases at a safe pressure
@myworkplace526
@myworkplace526 8 жыл бұрын
what's the differences between the g3 and hk91
@christopherzarcone1363
@christopherzarcone1363 5 жыл бұрын
Wiskunde GUY HK 91 was the civilian export model, G3 is select fire
@georgekontalexis8436
@georgekontalexis8436 5 жыл бұрын
Guys do you know if there is a difference between a g3 bolt and hk 33 bolt?
@christopherzarcone1363
@christopherzarcone1363 5 жыл бұрын
george kontalexis aside from size not much. They function identically, though I’m certain there’s little parts interchangeability between the two. Though the rollers might be interchangeable if you’re mad enough to try it
@georgekontalexis8436
@georgekontalexis8436 5 жыл бұрын
@@christopherzarcone1363 thank you for your reply
@bootsontheground4913
@bootsontheground4913 Жыл бұрын
Uh oh the pins that attach the stock are STUCK STUCK
@CyborgCMorg
@CyborgCMorg 8 жыл бұрын
Inb4 "the fallout gun!!!!"
@alexsitaras6508
@alexsitaras6508 8 жыл бұрын
+CyborgCMorg it's good looking gun, why wouldnt they put it in a game
@stinkylittlerascal
@stinkylittlerascal 3 жыл бұрын
My ptr 91 fr has almost no recoil in my opinion
@tum4sh
@tum4sh 6 жыл бұрын
for cleaning you should remove everything...
@jefflangham5113
@jefflangham5113 4 жыл бұрын
Lewd.
@dubaigroup3283
@dubaigroup3283 6 жыл бұрын
Thes is real gun
@prosvestela6870
@prosvestela6870 3 жыл бұрын
Me in 2021 finding a upper to complete my kit
@ethandean7122
@ethandean7122 8 жыл бұрын
how much do one of these cost?
@tfbtv
@tfbtv 8 жыл бұрын
+Ethan Dean About $900 or so.
@ethandean7122
@ethandean7122 8 жыл бұрын
+TFB TV ....gonna stick with my C39V2 thank you lol
@ethandean7122
@ethandean7122 8 жыл бұрын
+WO I have actually. that's why I asked a price. I didn't realize it was that pricey lol
@ethandean7122
@ethandean7122 8 жыл бұрын
+Gutenhund yeah I noticed. I shot this rifle a few times. I liked it because there wasn't much to it. than I saw the price haha. mag prices sound good. but overall cost considering ammo too I'll go with my AK
@ethandean7122
@ethandean7122 8 жыл бұрын
+Gutenhund haha I was REALLY close to getting one. I wanted this model too. buuuuttt...ya know the gun $900 the ammo is like $27 a box of 20 here lol
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