Jeep Wrangler vs Ford Raptor (Part 2): The Ultimate Off-Road Mashup Challenge

[@fatboy19831]

This is the Jeeps world. The Raptor dose not belong here. Running 60 mph in the desert the Jeep is outclassed buy the Raptor. Two completely different off road trucks. Both the best in the world.

[@DoctorYoda2]

The Jeep is a SUV xD

[@Pilot545]

+fatboy19831 Best comment here! I hate the guys who are saying "oh...THAT'S not off-road...'I' go off-roading and nobody can hang with my $100 Jeep". Nothing but bravado! I thought this was a fun vid, but you are totally correct. NOT the Raptor's element here. DEF the Jeep's element! There's not a stock off-road vehicle made that can hang with a Jeep in this environment (MAYBE Land Rover).

[@DoctorYoda2]

***** Then it's a Convertible-SUV-Truck xD

[@1vesuvia]

Fatboy can't spell. Knuckle walker.

[@DoctorYoda2]

@Wojciech Kamiński Because trucks and SUVs belong to different categories of vehicles. It doesn't really matter off-road though, it's just that trucks are usually suited to more rugged terrain.

[@HotWhiskeyEyes]

these guys make such a big deal about this trail. i could get my honda accord through that easily

[@austinhughes9490]

This is what we like to see. REAL off-road tests. With REAL mud. Great jobs guys!

[@TFLcar]

Austin Hughes This video was very fun to make!

[@aegixxer1]

Austin Hughes real off-road test??? are you serious? Rubicon is a real off-road test. Toyota and Jeep have both used the Rubicon as a test area for their vehicles. It's all good though, I love it when people with more money than brains watch these types of videos then go out and buy a brand new $40,000 truck thinking they can go anywhere only to have my $2500 Jeep rescue them on the trail when they figure out it takes more than a fancy "off-road mode" to make it to the end.

[@aegixxer1]

Austin Hughes real off-road test??? are you serious? Rubicon is a real off-road test. Toyota and Jeep have both used the Rubicon as a test area for their vehicles. It's all good though, I love it when people with more money than brains watch these types of videos then go out and buy a brand new $40,000 truck thinking they can go anywhere only to have my $2500 Jeep rescue them on the trail when they figure out it takes more than a fancy "off-road mode" to make it to the end.

[@parkerfagan7826]

Somebodys bitter...

[@aegixxer1]

Parker Fagan​ lol how do you figure I'm bitter?

[@jasonwood7340]

I like how the jeep went out into the grass to avoid the mud at 8:50.

[@ahmedhafez5024]

It’s because the trail was ending and would get too narrow like 2 feet wide

[@ColonnaHFAH]

Off course the wrangler is more off road worthy, a lot of power does not mean a lot of capabilities when doing serious off roading... Check suzuki samurai for that.

[@ryanmoore7582]

Jorge Colonna red Jeep cheated he went off the path

[@Martin-xh1hd]

Of***

[@gsheverything_2716]

Both of the vehicles are great off-road, but the Raptor is so freaking huge, the Wrangler is the obvious more practical off-road vehicle out there...

[@loganwilson6727]

especially the 2 door rubicon (hard rock edition) with 33 inch tires and a lift kit.

[@murdadock]

He really pulled out clippers for a twig! This trail is like a 4 lane highway to the real trails for a Jeep

[@Mad9977]

Wrangler Rubicon all the way, also on snow =)

[@Masterhughesproductions]

i could drive that trail in a 2 wheel drive truck city slickers

[@ps3862]

city slickers lul

[@seemynewname]

No doubt a favorite of the 'off roaders' who don't dare scratch their vehicles.

[@samuelbeshay2813]

thanks for the video! was looking for something similar for a while!

[@Davedimmensions]

Really enjoyed this first off-road series! Looked like some intense stuff... Love to see more like this in the future!

[@JeepJeep234]

The size being a factor is just like how a rzr tends to do better in some places than the wrangler, simply because it's so much smaller and lighter.

[@Americanmade-bl5zw]

The raptor got stuck the jeep didn't! Jeep one hands down!

[@michaelkuzmadutton7879]

The jeep and the raptor both struggled on that mudpit. The jeep made it through the woodzie and bushey area because it was less wide.

[@molecularmage5443]

yeah the keep “one”

[@MoisheLettvin]

Wait did Nathan really ask "where's a good mohel when you need him?" This made my day.

[@sheyanderson4371]

The Raptor is the baddest meanest vehicle around, but it’s price tag is its biggest hindrance. I really am surprised, for its price, Ford doesn’t offer or create a more durable paint and coating.

[@toddklekotka3340]

Ok Im just gonna say this. Many trucks are offroad worthy, but what good is having a road queen? Trucks/Jeeps and so on are off road vehicles. Use them as such. Scared of scratches? Buy a sports car. Otherwise paint the truck with Herculiner. This is tuff stuff and hard to scratch and prevents rust. I will just stick with a Deuce and half and make ruts so deep, you'll need more than a Raptor or stock Jeep to make it! If offroading is your thing, then try some of these other older vehicles.

[@markusvandelinde2729]

i totaly agree with Nathan best offroad vehicle on the planet

[@mrmidnight32]

This test was pointless. Jeeps are specifically designed for this Raptors are for "prerunning" aka rich kids who just want a fast over priced street queen,

[@73181UserFkOff]

NoOneImportant556 So true. Video was a waist of time.

[@mrmidnight32]

***** But that's what the raptor is made for. Nothing about the Raptor is "prerunner" or "baja" aside from the faltered fenders. It was just designed to look like one and sell to people. It's just a pretty factory F 150. That's about it. Real pro class and baja trucks suspension costs as much as a raptor. But yea, plenty of jeeps are street queens too. But the raptor is nothing but a show car.

[@philloft]

NoOneImportant556 Coming from a owner of a first gen raptor (2010 5.4 triton) with over 130 thousand pavement/sand/mud/snow/rock driven miles its more than just a show truck.. See people assume just because its marketed a certain way then when an asshole jumps it 90 feet in the air or if they see it driven on the street ( Street queen status) that it is not capable.. Well I'm here as an owner of the raptor telling you sir that I've used every ounce Raptor I can and it is proven.. No its not a trophy truck no its not caged out cracked out pre runner racer. Its a stage 1 factory fighter and No other pickup truck for the money can compare to the raptor I don't care how you want to put it .. The Ram Runner tried yes it did but the companies marketing strategry sucked there for you have to basically buy the truck in pieces which would set u back another 30 grand on top of a $45,000 truck.. I Think not ( personal preference) The raptor is a out of the box ready to run off roader like Motortrend Journalist say "The Porsche 911 GT3 of the trucks" That alone speaks volumes.. Im just saying Before people want to assume try owning one and really using it like a true enthusiast/ driveaholic then if your not satisfied come at a raptor owner or a vid with something more tangible than just vaporized opinions #asiproceed

[@mrmidnight32]

Phillip scott First off TLDR, second the raptor is a over priced show car no matter how you face it. People have built 2x better rapters from basic F150's and way better after market parts for 3/4 the price. Your paying for flash, I know ford especially Raptor owners cant face it. But you are paying for a truck with a ton of off road styled bling than a truck thats a complete dominator. I like them, they are sick. But they are not the end all, best of the best truck. No where close. They are half assed everything, aside from looks. It's a half assed road car, half assed dirt monster but 100% show n go. You don't get what you pay for, and its not worth the money IMO. I've already done the math. I wanted one. Went in a different direction instead. Like I said, my buddy actually races his F150 he built, and its worlds better than the raptor and he is still $8k below the raptor MSRP.

[@philloft]

NoOneImportant556 Now u just sound like a under handed hater.. I never said the Raptor is the end all be all truck thats point 1.. Its a great benchmark to build from yes($$$$$). From the factory in my opinion and from my experiences its worth every penny well spent.. But thats my money and my preferences.. You have your your preferences and your opinions and there are tons of trucks you can build better than a raptor... Duh!!!! Thats a elementary Theory anything after market is better than the factory so please come at me with something logical.. I could build a 95 f150 or older better than the new raptor all it takes is $$$$ and innovation.. What You missed in my response was me telling you out the box fresh out the box a truck worth $45-60k is not all about bling..And Im going to stay strong to my perspective of How you come off because clearly you missed the objective of "The Raptor" besides your assumption of it being a bling bling (maybe u see to many ppl who pavement drive them and just assume) truck which is far from that.. yea it looks good and tough but it backs it up from my experiences of running it into the ground and through the bushes and out of the sand and flooring it over 120 mph keeping up with sport sedans/coupes on the pavement.. Again Im a present owner and a reliable source .. I do grant you this.. The Raptor is not the end all be all truck.. AMG 6x6.. trophy truck.. strict purposed built pre runner builds.. yea thats if you want to spend over $80k.. Soooooo Your point.. Valid on a such a minor level.. Come back me what something new bro.. better yet what do you drive???? And I'm asking you this for a specific reason.... But when you answer I will tell you why.. If you decline my question with a "N" bomb insult your telling me the kinda person you are... because your underhanded hatred for the raptor goes way deeper than the surface....And yess I'm pulling a Dr. Phil lol

[@swimmer8585]

Three words: solid front axle. That's what makes the jeep better. Or at least one thing

[@paulformaioni37]

that gap between tree and bush is huge, you should see the squeezes here on australian tracks

[@JU-lj8hl]

Now that's how you drive a Wrangler. Its natural environment.

[@darronfletcher1297]

Number one rule of off roading is drive over the obstacles. You drove around a rough spot. Stay to the trail, limit your environmental damage. Driving around obstacles and creating new trails get trails closed. Driving obstacles and rough spots is the point of off roading. Stay on the trail!

[@MajorTendonitis]

I recently sold my 2013 Raptor and purchased a Rubicon unlimited . I have to say the Raptor was one sweet truck , but I'm having loads more fun in the bush with the Rubi . The freedom tops are kinda cool too. I'm amazed at where I can sneak threw on a trail with the Rubi . Street wise the Raptor takes it for looks and comfort imo. Wish I was rich and could have kept both

[@johncoopman9081]

That looks like a really fun trail.

[@DubiusTheWolf]

There's only one and that's the original one that has only four letters in it's name. Thumbs up for Nathan :)

[@thefrugaljeeper4054]

Those trails are baby steps to the Jeep.

[@brianvandenbroeke8367]

You guys should do a video on "an everyman's 4x4". From towing to offroad capabilities to daily driving. Cost of ownership and the like. What is the very best 4x4 for a daily driver?

[@jessebetruckin1870]

POWER WAGON!!! More capable than both. Same equipment as the Wrangler but more load and towing capacity and higher ground clearance.

[@DevPack]

Jesse Boisvert no

[@jessebetruckin1870]

DevPack yesand because more clearance more articulation.

[@DevPack]

Jesse Boisvert no

[@ottomatt29]

Jesse Boisvert You are correct but they love there desert running IFS raptor. The Power Wagon I own has way more ground clearance then the raptor and has Front and Rear Lockers, you can't say the raptor is more off-road capable. it will destroy the PW in the sand or dunes but no where else.

[@joshe7813]

Jesse Boisvert You must not off-road. Takes more than ground clearance. Like approach angle, departure angle, breakover angle, articulation. Powerwagon is awesome, but more capable than a Wrangler it is not.

[@Dhime]

The Rubi is tsshho hawt :3 The raptor is like... one of those vehicles when one looks at it, "Someones trying to compensate for something."

[@OutlawFarmersRC]

I think its so funny what you guys call a Challenging off road trail.

[@michaelkuzmadutton7879]

They gotta get some bolder crawls LOL!

[@Ericdgarcia]

I like that they didn't edit out the power tool drawing too much power for it to work from the jeep

[@Dwealdric]

Good driving, Nathan. Wish the Hard Rock was available when I bought my Rubicon.

[@Saylerjesse]

this looks so fun man

[@ar1368]

Rubicon , both axles are lockers. Raptor, only the rear are lockers and it is extremely wide. The Rubicon is really built much better, I have seen Raptor get stuck here in Florida where the Rubicons go through, without issue.

[@ar1368]

I agree

[@christopherbarrett4760]

My stock JK Sport has conquered rougher trails than this ! #TeamWrangler

[@85MasterV]

A little used Ranger Fx4 with decent size tires would hang with the Jeep.

[@hansyang1697]

That toy on the dash! Reminds me the childhood!

[@johncarrillo3518]

Awesome video

[@syyenergy7]

Suzuki SJ413 with a truck bed liner paint job. I'd take mine through that narrow spot. My SJ413 is 4 inches narrower than a Samurai.

[@alanjm1234]

I'd drive those roads in an old Falcon.

[@ibuiltit4u]

i've done more mud in a 72 chevy impala.

[@djlesinski7978]

Solid Front Axle for the win. GM, take notes.

[@chrishello7329]

Raptor is a ford lol

[@djlesinski7978]

I know but GM is the only one of the three auto manufacturers in USA that does not offer a solid front axle on a consumer vehicle. Ford has SFA on their 250/350 vehicles. Dodge/Ram offers SFA on their 2500/3500 trucks. GM uses independent front suspension on their full size trucks. I wasn't referring to the Raptor. IFS works best for the Raptor actual because it is designed for prerunning.

[@InnactauditPretoriaGauteng]

Hill climb etc needed, but I'm a Jeep fan!! If Jeep could just do something decent with consumption, Nathan, in my view you are the face of Jeep in S.A.

[@Croozer]

The Raptor looked like a fish outta water.

[@Jay-sp6lc]

You should make a video of those trucks off road, that was a path with a little puddle in it! Calling this off roading is like saying you're going camping and bringing an air conditioner for your three room tent and a generator for your laptop.

[@aMoneysWay]

i liked this video a ton !! do another test

[@louisbarningham]

I would rather have the Raptor😍

[@alexerickson5420]

I prefer an older Jeep than the new JK/JL wranglers. I take the Jeep TJ because, you scratch it, you dent it, whatever you don't care if it has cosmetic damage. Newer offroad cars you want to be more careful because they are nicer and more expensive. That is why older off-roaders are better than newer ones.

[@Z0MB13L30N]

The Wrangler and not the Wrangler Unlimited is better off road because of the shorter wheel base. It keeps it from high centering. But you sacrifice some weight which gives you traction.

[@KnightShadey]

Leon Wagner Depends on where you off-road. The Unlimited is a far better off-roader up a steep grade or on surfaces like ice & snow (all of which are my off-road focus). The 2dr is better in shorter situations where you might get high centered or having issues with length in approach departure angles (something the Hummer is notorious for). However if you know how to drive and have a good spotter, the issues are far less than people think... especially if you have a winch.

[@TheDarkestSixx]

Wrangler looks better (not over the top), performs better, actually made it, so yeah.... Clear winner.

[@JeepVideoGuy]

Great Video!

[@OVI-Wan-Kenobi-8]

if you're going into the bush you better bring a gas powered chainsaw.

[@azgunguy4870]

THAT MOYLE JOKE 😂😂😁

[@davidb1492]

No real test no real winner and I can think of a few better off road vehicles.

[@13yearoldlifter92]

Jeep rules

[@PerformanceY]

Did u mean FIAT?

[@StepOnAHenLayAnEgg]

i like both :)

[@billw6182]

Yeah baby!!!! Since 1941!!!!

[@eastonhirsh4088]

Raptor was meant for desert racing, and the jeep was meant to be driving on trails in the mountains so i see this as kinda unfair!

[@MattWeber]

Not to mention that the Jeep was in 4 HIGH with no problem handling that. While the raptor wimps out in 4 Low, which there was nothin on the trail that should have needed that really.

[@manjitsingh3826]

I think you are forgetting one last vehicle to consider as the world's best off road car being the hummer h2. A civilian version of the humvee which is used by U.S. Military showing that it was built to go anywhere on the planet.

[@00FRY00]

Discontinued. No longer in the race.

[@RobbDzzz]

H2 isn't the same as the HMMWV. H2 was built on Suburban/Tahoe, H1 was built on the HMMWV. And to call it better would be a shame. It is good, but not meant for trails like this, too wide.

[@Dwealdric]

Manjit Singh The H2 was not a civilian version of the HMMWV. The H2 was built from the ground up to be a civilian vehicle, and is on the chassis of a Chevy Tahoe. The H2 is also pretty garbage off road. The H3 Alpha was pretty good though.

[@KnightShadey]

Dwealdric It shares frame component with the Suburban, not the Tahoe, and that's front and back, while the middle is custom hydroformed only made for AM General for the H2s, it's not like it was simply putting a different body on an existing frame, especially since the Suburban components were from two different Suburban chassis (HD2500 / 1500). However, while they aren't garbage off-road, especially if the trail in the video were the gauge, they definitely aren't at the top of the list either, due to their weight & dimensions. If they were still being made, I'd saying they'd be lucky to be at the bottom end of a top 10.

[@Dwealdric]

KnightShadey Good lesson. I didn't know that about the frame. I admittedly did think they just dropped the body on a tweaked version of the same frame. Learn something new every day.

[@Lexolo999]

You all should do a comparison video of the TFL TJ versus the MMUSA Wrangler.

[@brendansmith2658]

I think it would be cool to see the Wrangler or Raptor up against a LR4, I've taken mine off-road several times in places 5x as hard as that trail without any issues. That will decide who the real winner is...

[@gilgamesh689]

Jeep wrangler .sport, Sahara, rubicon. they are the best around the world and respect in the road .

[@laythg]

FYI the power plug in the Jeep would have easily powered the trimmer. You have to turn on the plug with a button on the dash. RTM.

[@CMA212]

Lets see how that jeep takes on a couple of whoops thru the socal desert at the same speed as the Raptor

[@xxijoseaixx224]

More off-road mashups! , try to take it to the next level ;)

[@RC-ScalerandBuilder]

I know this is an old video, but Jesus Christ, this video makes as much sense as a video trying to decide who is the faster runner, an able bodied person or a quadriplegic? And it needed to be a 2 part video...?!?!?!

[@TheMrdjjk]

This trail does not even come close to scratching the surface of the Jeep's capability.

[@BryBurger]

Luckily no hydrolocking the rides, yes, MUCH worse than scratches! lol

[@214shakenbake]

You might want to consider testing a Dodge Power Wagon. Front and rear lockers, disconnecting sway bar and Warn winch from the factory. Oh yeah, and a Hemi. I just traded mine in for a Rubi, because I wanted something smaller and better MPG's. A Raptor is for hauling azz over dunes a Power Wagon is for off roading. With the winch stock from the factory, I say it is the most off road worthy vehicle you can buy off the show room floor.

[@Owens_Racing]

Wish these comparisons were using the same tire.

[@jasonpreslar6251]

Rubicon vs Four Runner Trd Pro.......let's see it.

[@TFLcar]

Jason Youknowwho We would love to take the TRD Pro on this trail.

[@mymomsagirlpoopgood]

Jason Youknowwho 4 runner would rape the rubicon

[@eastonhirsh4088]

Probs be the same deal with grith

[@jasonpreslar6251]

There's a lot that could be compared without wedging vehicles between trees. Would be interesting.

[@CanadaBud23]

+Easton Hirsh When I first saw the 4-Runner I though it was one of those big brick suburban Infinities. That thing is a land yacht. Even the older ones were huge.

[@MrHispanicPanic]

Jeep wins

[@AshyJai1]

Defender, enough said

[@gabrielgagne2004]

If you spend the difference in price between these vehicles on thing like suspension tires etc.. The Jeep will literally blow away the raptor. I still do love the raptor what a sexy truck

[@mrbigshot29]

Gabriel Gagne the raptor is 44k, the wrangler is 47k.

[@gabrielgagne2004]

In what world is a wrangler 47k?

[@mechmat12345]

Gabriel Gagne The model in this video is a Rubicon Hard Rock edition. Starts at $40k, could easily go above $47k with options.

[@RRT1987]

Could of done that whole track in 2wd.

[@pim3fifty]

come on! we need some real offroad tests. this sissy road can be taken on by any 4x4

[@bblue1231]

now lets finish this challenge with high speed off roading im sure any side by side utility vehicle could easily do that trail one trail does not make a vehicle an off road champ

[@jacobwalls452]

Seriously Roman? The Raptor is a desert racer...you should've grabbed a Land Rover Defender or a Nissan Patrol.

[@jacobwalls452]

Gaming 4 Ohio Road to 1,000 Subscribers not hardly, they are VERY similar...but the Defender is missing a few key items while the Wrangler is only missing a diesel option and a six-speed+ automatic. I'd wager a stock top-of-the-line Wrangler can match anything on the planet in its class. Unimogs and the like don't count

[@eduardoherrera1484]

Nissan doesn't sell the Patrol on the U.S., but I think that one of the best off-roader is the Toyota Land Cruiser.

[@jacobwalls452]

Eduardo Herrera esp with ported King Shocks...but I think the Land Cruiser is better suited against the Raptor.

[@gilbert.gardea]

A Range Rover would laugh at a Jeep because the Jeep goes above and beyond shit rover cant do. Its in shock!

[@johnnybarrett1106]

Jacob Walls We cant get no Nissan Patrol here in the USA buy the way it crazy to see what is best offroad between the two they both are good at certain things the Jeep is good at going down trails the you're right Raptor is good at like doing the Baja 1,000 like going across the desert fast I own a Raptor and it never been offroad it hardly ever get out of the garage for that matter, I got it last year and I think it has around 700 miles on it.

[@jamilahrazzaq8780]

I wonder how many ppl in the comments complained about him cutting the limbs off that tree lol??

[@gdanie02]

That spin at 0:41 though!!! Literally laughing out loud!

[@adriancr1988]

Easy road... My Suzuki Samurai would do it in 2H...

[@Rusoatrincherado047]

Come to Venezuela, La Cangrejera will show you the best off road clips xD

[@patriot1770]

i would hardly call that OFF ROAD, but any way the wrangler does wipe the floor with most other makes when it comes to the dirty stuff, its what they where made for.

[@andrewmendoza1578]

Power Wagon is better than both

[@Offshore1977]

I love my Rubicon. I will never sell it

[@Mohammadkwt]

it should be ford raptor vs ram runner , i really wanna see who they will in this type of challenge both have nearly the same off-road kits & they are both 1500 class .

[@pchamberlain]

mohammadkwt the ram runner was never built as a production vehicle. Only a handful exist and all of those were crammed full of aftermarket parts. the raptor was built on the same production lines as the other f150s.

[@Mohammadkwt]

pchamberlain yeah mopar have the body kits for but still they are very off-road capable trucks , but why i don't see ram runner off-road videos instead of baja race ? i know it can do something .

[@TheChris1299100]

I'd love to take my 2005 superduty on that trail...I have a way of demonstrating size limitations, bring a tow truck!

[@TheRKHCollection]

Do it do a rematch that would be cool cause I bet the raptor could easily beat the jeep on a wider trail

[@kodylowe8790]

The issue with this.. is... well... when going off road... you cant be afraid of scratch's. For this to be a proper match, the raptor would have had to plow through the bush and tree (which it would have) and then see if it could make it down. It would have been different if the Truck was not able to go through, due to the tree its self in the way.

[@Tobias611]

Kody Lowe well you surely don't want to scratch something worth 60 grand that doesn't belong to you,but yeah,you are right,for a truly fair comparison they should have gone wild

[@nicknichols442]

This was a "cute" looking trail. The key word here is capability. The jeep out classes any vehicle made regarding capability. The jeep can ALSO handle desert racing. Ever heard of Jeep speed?? The raptor can NOT rock crawl due to its wheel base and width. JEEP WINS!

[@dannyrbailey]

WTF this MasterCard commercial

[@freddypedraza2066]

Compared to the wrangler, the raptor is a liberty, Yeah I said it, come at me bro

[@Fordguy1997]

Great 2-part series! Very entertaining! Nathan, did you shrink? I thought you used to be like 1 inch shorter than Roman, now you're like 3 inches shorter.

[@thewt]

"most capable" that would probably be the one that has a lot of rocky mountain pin stripes

[@tritchie6272]

Apparently I was wrong when I thought they didn't cut limbs or anything to modify the trail. Still interesting though.

[@AlexKolipinski]

How about a 0-60 test in the jeep with 3 people and gear, in addition to towing the trailer?

[@jonathanscherer7482]

That is not a test of its off-road ability, which is the point of this video.

[@MrHispanicPanic]

Jeep for the win

[@dirty_paws_expedition]

I'm still waiting to see where the trail starts....

[@radojeep49]

Raptor vs. Power Wagon.