I Found The Limit & Then Went Beyond It: GMC Hummer EV vs Ford Bronco Extreme Off-Road Review!

[@TFLoffroad]

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[@JuanCastillo-zv6ob]

Wow the good the bad and the ugly .

[@Nebula1701]

Did you hold the Front Locker Switch down for 5 seconds according to the owners manual?

[@mattwill63]

goddamn lifted cr-v is better than this trash lol

[@Nebula1701]

@ROBERTO SOLA The Hummer doesn't have street tires...

[@ineffably_described]

Stop ruining our Colorado trails by telling everyone about them and stacking so many damn rocks in gatekeepers!! Bad Coloradoans.

[@disophisis]

I love Tommy's rants when things don't work. There's no excuse for broken switches on a 110k MSRP truck.

[@DownHillgamer]

Exactly lol, I'd blow a skull fuse out in the woods if my 100k+ truck is shitting its pants

[@AndrewAMartin]

It was probably a pre-production Press Vehicle that's been beat on by other 'journalists'... Have you seen how people drive rentals? 😁

[@armsdirectory]

@@AndrewAMartin Press vehicles are usually fairly well cared for and driven responsibly - unless you're a car-tuber who doesn't want to get any more Press vehicles. Broken toggle switches and faulty function aren't the result of Press drivers abusing them - it's not like they were pounding on the front-locker and ride height switches.

[@blang38]

@@AndrewAMartin I tend to agree that it's a pre production vehicle that was used for testing and then given to journalists. It wouldn't surprise me if this one gets crushed in the near future. However, bottom line is that its too big for this kind of trail work

[@JF-lt5zc]

@@DownHillgamer it's a Chevy, what do you expect? The giant price tag has nothing to do with quality. It's a ridiculous vehicle anyway and sorry, anyone who buys one is a fool.

[@dalejones4322]

I took a couple of things from this video. One, I don't want a Hummer, even if I could afford one. Two, Tommy you have a great dad. I know he frustrates you sometimes but when you were at your most frustrated he came to you with a calm demeanor and gave you advice that got you through the trail. He is always a doting father and has patience when you need it. Great video guys

[@mnyhomie]

good call out. I recognized the same thing.

[@davec.3198]

Calm wins the race. Age makes you more calm and keep better perspective.

[@papajakeyjake]

I honestly use those moments when parenting my own son I love the dynamic of him spreading his wings and flying and the old dog set in his ways cheering him on the whole time!

[@neutrino78x]

well, the guy actually driving the car said he liked its performance, at 30:48. I'm not a car guy, I don't even know how to drive lmao. (I'm 45...but I grew up in the san francisco bay area.) But I think it carries a lot of weight when the guy actually operating the car said it was a good drive, a good off-road vehicle.

[@sunchaser999]

Good to see what a lot of us already expected… hummer EV is the ultimate mall crawler and not much fun on the trails.

[@pin65371]

It's sorta sad that a brand new company (Rivian) has the best ev truck available right now. A bunch of tech nerds beating out a company that has been around for over a century. That applies with Tesla as well. They basically just threw out all the "common knowledge" and started over. I'm honestly happy to see it. Sorta hope Hyundia takes over as well. They seem to be willing to take some risks.

[@marinusdedreu3833]

@@pin65371 I and many others want the retro concept Hyundai released to be for sale, and if they do, that would help convert MANY car enthusiasts over to electric. Same with Ford making the Lighting still look like a truck, doesn't look way out there like the hummer and cyber truck

[@Chomper750]

That was the same with the Hummer H2.

[@j.howardj]

The Hummer H1 is still king!

[@ismaelcarrillo3956]

These are not ur average trails

[@Michael-1337]

I couldn't imagine off roading in a 5 ton vehicle. I wouldn't be surprised if some trails start implementing weight limits because at that weight your going to start tearing the trail up real fast. If you break down off road it's going to be a nightmare extracting a 5 ton monster off the trail even for a professional crew.

[@RealJeep]

I drove a 10,000 pound F-350 all over the northern Rockies for the USFS with no problems. You just have to know how to drive off road. Tommy sounded like a scared little boy whining the whole time.

[@neutrino78x]

@@RealJeep he did say at 30:48 that it was great to drive offroad and he recommends it.

[@VelocityMapping]

Would have loved to have seen the original H1 out there on the trail with them, and see how the Hummer EV compares to the H1.

[@krismine99]

I'm 100% sure it would've cleaned the floor. My dad bought a 1988 Humvee from a government auction and the thing was undefeated even without the tech

[@ChristmasEve777]

I'm not sure why they were using the Hummer EV truck to do this instead of the Hummer EV SUV with it's shorter wheel base. Either one weighs too damn much but the SUV version still would have done much better.

[@CEvans789]

It was great for my wife and I to meet you guys on the trail. I was really impressed that you had the guts to take that Hummer up there and that you managed to shoehorn it through the tight sections in the trees and drag it over the rocks. Watching your descent was a real clencher. Kudos on your skill and patience in getting it through there. Not so impressed with the vehicle performance though. Looking forward to running into you guys again.

[@jakemaughan3818]

"It's like these buttons are falling apart!" That's what we call a GM.

[@uwharriebigfoothunter]

Yeah that thing is an expensive piece of shit

[@kevinpohlner2840]

They got nearly a week out of this vehicle and they only paid $115k...what a bargain!

[@cristianhernandez8176]

Idk man first electric truck they made. The Ford lightning was a even worse fail

[@uwharriebigfoothunter]

@@cristianhernandez8176 yeah it's a piece of shit too

[@handyman2183]

1000% CORRECT ASSESSMENT MAURY!!!1!1. Dollar for Dollar it has to be the worst off-road vehicle ever made. Is only a status “I have more money then sense” symbol.

[@SkylarRace]

Not one single person who buys the new Hummer will take it on a trail like that. However it is impressive what that nearly 5 ton vehicle made it over. The new Hummers will be seen more in front of Gucci stores than they will be in front of trail signs.

[@abdulazizalmnsor2237]

In this case , i can’t see why did GM put all these off road capabilities on it ? Cuz no one gonna take it on hard trails They could just make it fast and 4wd with out the drama and it will be lighter if we take all these off road things out of it I liked the hummer but now i can see it as a concept or muscle vehicle , not practical one at all

[@SnowAndrews]

Methinks, GM's Quality Control is up to it's USUAL STANDARD !!!

[@kbarrett1844]

Great video. Actually impressed that the Hummer did as well as it did. The typical Hummer EV owner in reality won’t be attempting anything near this challenging. However, it’s great to see it perform at the edge of its capabilities. Kudos to the TFL team for bringing this unique content to us.

[@gregc9220]

Ok here's my take, the Bronco made the trail ride very confidence inspiring, now I know this is two completely different units but the Hummer made Tommy look very irritated and he is experienced off-roader so imagine someone buying a Hummer and going off-road for the first time 🤔

[@misaelbarcia541]

Well, GM lent them the Hummer and the Bronco belongs to them. That could be another reason 😂😂

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

True but when you buy something you read the manuel and every reviewer I know doesn't.... The issues Tommy was having was stuff that should be in the manuel.

[@LightningTime777]

Exactly. Basically what I see is that the hummer is not that great off-road especially with the lockers and air suspension breaking while the Bronco is.

[@Story_Teller_Everyone]

No one going off road for the first time would pick this trail.

[@LightningTime777]

@@Story_Teller_Everyone his point still stands though. The Bronco made the experience calm while the Hummer did not.

[@IdeaCalledFreedom]

That was intense, honestly the hummer seemed to take the enjoyment out of off-roading. Too many issues in areas where a true off-roader doesn’t struggle that much

[@poplaurentiu4148]

The shorter version (GMC Hummer EV SUV) might be better it has better approach & departure angles and is shorter between front & rear axles..

[@jeffforbes70]

they have had the bronco for over a year and learned the ins and out.the bronco also had issues engaging front locker.i think it was driver error. they made all those goat mode to make it simpler , but only made more complicated.

[@khakiswag]

@@jeffforbes70 their Bronco never had issues engaging the front or rear lockers. On the contrary, they’ve always been impressed that it engages instantly. From day one the Bronco has done everything that asked of it off roading.

[@jeffforbes70]

@@khakiswag from bronco6g forum. "Well, had my first service visit today. I kept getting drivetrain dash light errors when trying to turn on the rear locker. Went to the dealership today and they say there is a solenoid in the rear end assembly that is malfunctioning. Good news is that the read end is still fully functional, just not the rear locker. "

[@jeffforbes70]

@@khakiswag another from bronco6g "Posting this here to see if anyone else has had the same issue. I'm getting a error message anytime I put it in 4A, whether its using the 4A button, or switching it to sport mode. Error message reads, "service vehicle soon" and disengages the 4A. Shutting down and restarting clears the issue, "

[@paulf9653]

Great video guys. I learned two things for sure watching this. 1. Hummer is a status symbol not an offroader. 2. Even at this price point it's still typical GM build quality.

[@sparkywatts3072]

I have a 2018 GMC Denali 3500HD Duramax that weighs in at over 8K pounds. I've never even thought of taking it off-roading. It's NOT made for that. GM's biggest mistake was trying to brand it as an off-road truck. It's NOT. My Denali has excellent build quality as have all my many past GM trucks. It's plain you're not a GM fan. I agree with your #1 thing learned but not your ? ? #1.

[@kylebutler7142]

@@sparkywatts3072 you GM fans need to wake up and smell the coffee - GM is junk! Buy a Ford! ALL GM PRODUCTS ARE STYLE NO SUBSTANCE. People fall for it though. Here in the land Down under, GM had an advert saying 'nothing handles like a Commodore' what a joke 🤣 ever driven a Porche? (a commodore is basically a Chevy SS) The branding of the Hummer EV was always as an off road truck from the start. Also haven't all Hummers been 4wd, off roaders right back to its military origins?

[@steven8075]

@@sparkywatts3072 ehhhhhhh idk man.... I have a 2022 GMC sierra SLT I use for work. It's easily the worst build quality iv had in any truck for the last several years. my co-workers have lariat F-150 and they are worlds better built. On my truck in its first year of ownership, The wood door trim doesn't fit, the door leaks in heavy rain, the driver's side wheel bearing is already failing/noisy, the heated seats failed almost right away and GMC lacks the "chip modules" to fix them. ohh also buttons for my multi-fold tailgate failed so I couldn't open my bed from outside... iv never had anything against GM but they certainly seem to be lacking quality control, especially when i compare them to my co-worker's Fords that have SO FAR been flawless.

[@Turbo6019]

how is Hummber a status symbol exactly...i'm curious to know?

[@kylebutler7142]

@@Turbo6019 the Khardasians probably

[@norwegianblue2017]

It is a real testament to those tires to hold up so well off-roading with a 9000lb vehicle.

[@lawrencek9748]

A comment section full of fanboy-ism and bashing brands based on one vehicle. I'm happy to see at least some people noticed the good father-son teamwork and had some positive things to say.

[@ryanking6811]

Probably the first and last time a Hummer EV goes up and down that trail, hats off to you all for this content!

[@InsomniacDreams55]

I’ve said this once and I’ll say it again… simplicity and being lightweight is the key to off-roading.

[@krane15]

So no electric off-road vehicles then? With batteries, weight will always be an issue.

[@eljoven732]

​@krane15 nah cause the wrangler hybrid is amazing and I saw that the EV version will be just as good with about the same weight as the hybrid

[@incomingincoming1133]

Suzuki Jimny.

[@PumpUptheJam81]

Yes sir. Read somewhere once “light equals might” off road. The less crap I took white me the better my rig would do.

[@Jimmhout]

More bronco off-roading! That was the star of the video made that stuff look easy

[@mattbrew11]

I guess you missed the 13 jeeps that cruise past easily

[@cornervillain838]

@@mattbrew11 Wrangler has always been the best for offroad, but drives like a dog on road. Bronco leveled the game with being just as good offroad, but not driving like a 3 legged moose on road

[@mattbrew11]

@@cornervillain838 a solid axle vehicle needs a high end aftermarket suspension to drive as nicely as an ifs does. My gladiator comfortably cruises at 80 mph on 39s with a plush ride and next to zero steering corrections most of what is needed is due to cross winds but a bronco moves around just as much. Squares just don’t like wind. What then happens though is the solid axle vehicle becomes much better off road than the bronco. Dont get me wrong if Ford makes an EV bronco before Jeep ill buy one I do like them but with some personalization a Jeep is a wonderful daily drive. Ford has WAY better seats though and I am jealous of them

[@jeffforbes70]

most people thought they sold it after tommy road trip date.i think its been about 10 months sense bronco has seen dirt

[@raionshishi8290]

@@mattbrew11 It is nice having that solid axle for offroad, but the majority of trails don't really require it as the Bronco has proven itself on every single one thus far, and on road it's even better than the solid axle, where it really outshines everything is desert running, no Jeep is going desert running like a Bronco can, and don't even mention the Raptor version because that thing will literally leave anything Jeep has in the dust by miles.

[@joealesi9610]

That's why their called "Rock Sliders" 9:43 ...get it, dam bro, keep up the momentum and don't worry about a little scrape!

[@JamesBrown059]

A couple scratches are easily worth it for GMC to have the only offroad video of the Hummer on the internet. Looked like a painful and stressful test, but it was fantastic to see it perform on a moderate trail vs service roads like you'll see in the ads

[@JMacGyver1]

The Hummer is such a stereotypical GM product that is overweight, too big (for it’s supposed intended use and has questionable quality. If I had to guess, the Hummer product manager never intended a ~9,500 lb. truck to actually be taken on mountain trails, knowing that there isn’t a tire made that can overcome the pull of gravity.

[@mikefoehr235]

truth👍

[@King-st9nx]

Typical GM product

[@philllsxga.7737]

Dude I had 252,000 miles on my ZR2 S10 it was always off road no issues not one!! It was my daily driver for 10 years and 252,000 MILES always off-roading always it never left me stranded...

[@mikefoehr235]

@@philllsxga.7737 I had a 88 Sierra...it was off road mostly. It spent most of its time off road at the dealer for warranty work. Trash

[@JMacGyver1]

@@philllsxga.7737 That’s great, totally irrelevant to my point about the Hummer EV.

[@ROBinJVILLE]

GM interior not holding up? SHOCKING

[@blang38]

Don't forget the interior gremlins TFL had with the Bronco when they got that...mainly the roof. Like anything else...always little things to iron out unfortunately

[@h8GW]

Oh, I see what you did there...

[@dirtytdi]

I work at a refinery and all the Chevy/GMC trucks ( dosnt matter the age) the doors are sprung, have coat hangers for door handles , interior and controls are half working or not working at all. The dodge and fords at the refinery don’t have that problem, I know because I’ve check almost every one. Chevys make good “grocery getter‘s” But there interiors and door handles can’t handle real work abuse.

[@blang38]

@@dirtytdi Seems to be a bit of hyperbole there. All that tells me is you dislike Chevy/GMC and even if there was a pristine example you would never recognize it. Each to their own.

[@WewuzKangz85]

@@blang38 110k

[@vitaplur426]

Nice video :) I own a Jeep but anyone who has off-roaded a Samurai can appreciate the advantages of low weight off road. 9400 lbs sounds like a nightmare. Appreciate they made it through, but yeah probably not something to seek out to do

[@seanmcglocklin8553]

It's all about that float baby!

[@20tea]

Crawling in my built 2300 lb Samurai does exactly what I need out of it at a fraction of the cost of both rigs. It is however much less comfortable!

[@Ilovemyidi]

@@20tea samurais are awesome lol, growing up my dad used to take me on these trails in hawaii that rode at like a 45 degree grade down on the edge of a cliff over the lava rock

[@waldemarieofrow653]

The kid should have let his dad drive the hummer, especially after damaging it and not keep breaking down and having tantrums and hissy fits every time it didn't go as planned. It's off roading. This sort of thing happens with any vehicle and it takes a level head to move foward.

[@OniMetsuki]

Crab mode is super useful. It stops the back dropping off narrow off camber tails. Literally cannot be passed safely without it in some cases.

[@chrisgill7824]

Watching the Bronco go through the Rock garden, and then the Hummer going through really shows how nimble the Bronco really is vs the Hummer which just plowed through.

[@putamadre3640]

Going sooooo slow. How is this off roading?? I could do this in a Altima.

[@tylermacconnell217]

The camera is often deceptive off road. Your Altima is not going to handle this trail, probably not even the first 500 feet, no offense.

[@vettle1]

@@tylermacconnell217 I think he's being sarcastic at how bad the Hummer did ..

[@mattbrew11]

How nimble a Bronco SIZED vehicle is. Based on some stuff ive seen out of Jeep EV test mules a trail like this will be done on cruise control

[@terrarecon]

You know why he's going slow? In part because he knows that thing costs $114,000.

[@joatmon1857]

Was Awesome meeting/seeing you guys on this trail!!! That hummer is a HUGE EV/vehicle esp for off road use on our Co trails!!! Keep up the great content, love watching all your videos!!!

[@TFLoffroad]

It was great meeting you as well.

[@poweredbyrice5708]

Yeah and if you run low on fuel from getting stuck or slow moving on the trails just use your jerry cans of batteries to fill up or call a friend to bring fuel...oh wait

[@jsSeJaMs]

@@poweredbyrice5708 not a fan of Ford. But for a recharge F150 powerboost onboard can charge it up. I wish they had took the zr2 1500 on this trial 😕 maybe the bison 🦬

[@h8GW]

@8j3sSe JaM3s7 They can just call Andre. After putting some beefy tires on his personal F150 hybrid, he can now do some legit rock crawling.

[@kuhndog-1196]

The Hummer looks like it would be really good on a flat dirt road.

[@dadgrowscapsaicin4341]

I was thinking the same. The original Hummer hauled soldiers in the desert, not mountain trail climbing. I'd LOVE to mob that thru the desert!!!

[@DRose2Fast]

All off-roaders would be really good on a flat dirt road lol.

[@Sidewinder2180]

@@dadgrowscapsaicin4341 well you should actually see the testing requirements for the AM General Humvee. One being vertical climb out capabilities. Something this wont do. The Humvee is way more capable than this.

[@krismine99]

​@@dadgrowscapsaicin4341well, the original hummer would do well here as well. Had a family member but a 1988 Humvee at Auction and the thing was good on the hills

[@Dudesaidthat]

I ain’t gone lie I own a hummer, not the ev of course, but this video definitely makes me want a bronco. That drag a wheel feature was tough!!

[@LabRat355]

Tommy's little melt downs make him sounds like a winy toddler, 1st on the channel and probably the last.

[@protectme4278]

Never thought a Bronco would look light and spry lol. Imagine the Hummer next to a Jimny :D

[@TwiztidKlownzTX]

That hummer makes a full size HD truck look light and spry.

[@hollatmynutz8375]

Ole boy Tommy should get a raise. GM should be ashamed to sell a 100,000$ rolling turd. Good job tfl.

[@DCDLaserCNC]

Lol! $110,000 and it immediately gets stuck. Malfunctioning buttons. Great job GM!

[@michaelfletcher1224]

Fun to watch. I've done this trail in a 2000 H1 Hummer (it was very tight in places) but this looks like it's was a bit harder. Still I'm excited to see it on the trial.

[@fasteddie737]

A lack of patience is not a good mindset for serious off-roading.

[@AllTerrainNation]

Nice to see the Hummer off road but what a heavy tank for the trails. Great job as always guys

[@savagestash4354]

Glad to see the only EV hummer to ever go off-road in real-time.

[@landscapingspecialist]

Thank you all, the whole team for doing your TFL Truck diligence. I would say you were unbiased towards it and that’s what I expect from you. Well done

[@anthem4333]

GM’s lack of quality never ceases to surprise me

[@LMacNeill]

So far, your experiences with the Hummer are less than stellar... GM clearly has some bugs to work out. Not sure this thing was 100% ready for prime time.

[@gregss.771]

What a great episode! Thank you for showing what the Hummer versus a Bronco can do. Makes me want a Bronco all thqt much more!

[@TheAndrwwJohnson]

For Hummer money you can have 2 broncos lol

[@maxmars]

It says alot that TFL has kept the Bronco this long. They tend to sell their test vehicals pretty quickly.

[@sappyjohnson]

Broncos are the real deal. Ford really nailed it. Jeep has a competitor.

[@geoffreyfagan1798]

Bronco Badlands arrives this week after a year wait, and that was all I could afford - Hummer way out of my price range, but seeing this makes me feel a lot better about that. Thanks for the validation!

[@geoffreyfagan1798]

@@PerfectlyUselessComment Thank you! Enjoying but still learning, got first dirt.

[@MrJruta]

Seems you’re not missing a thing with the hummer. The Bronco is a MUCH better functioning and looking truck. Congrats!

[@shythawks9549]

It’s odd to me that he doesn’t try anything else to get that front locker engaged. And it being high sided is 110% user error. They need to give these trucks to people who actually drive these routes all the time for these vehicles to be given the best chance

[@dustup2249]

By 11:45 I had seen all I needed to see about a stock Hummer EV's off-road capability. I was disappointed that the extract mode's considerable ride height mode does not include individual corner height control. I will wait for the third party aftermarket integrators to solve the tire/rim/lift limitation to consider this SUV a true off-roader. Right now it LOOKS off-road, but does not PERFORM off-road.

[@joemattes8389]

My opinion of the Hummer is that it is concept truck that actually got built. But like most concept cars, it looks cool and has a lot innovation but questionable execution.

[@mattferguson9109]

To be fair the Bronco has had a lot of recalls and other issues. So not exactly comparable when you have a very early build Hummer vs a more a model that’s been around a year or two now and allowed to iron out more issues.

[@dream-_weaver4769]

Thanks guys for actually putting these vehicles to the test. Let us know in the future if there is a courageous Hummer owner willing to take on that trail.

[@hellkitty1014]

Tommy having a Code 5 in a $112K Hummer due to suspension and 4WD issues is both hilarious and sad at the same time.😂 **H1 me please**

[@GoSlowTaco]

Pure comedy

[@JoeE22]

Yeah I'll stick with a $2000 dollar jeep that will out due both😂

[@noneyabizz8337]

@@JoeE22 2000 dollar jeep? Yes, ok. Not in this economy

[@lorenciandrej]

This hummer is ideal for rock flattening. USArmy needs those green hummers badly. Super for parades. Looking tough at groceries. And the most important: everything works perfectly on this vehicle, when parked.

[@davemason6501]

This is the second video I have watched with EV vehicles going off road. Notice at the gate keeper that 1 rear tire was spinning but not the other. This was the problem. The motor control software does not simulate a "locked rear diff" action with the two rear motors. Since it didn't spin both rear tires at the same time, it's a failure and will only get you stuck.

[@williammodlin2621]

Thanks for an amazing and difficult experience. Kudos to Tommy for his off-road driving skill; he’s the best. To me, the takeaway is it’s better to have a fully loaded Bronco AND and fully loaded Bronco Sport than 1 Hummer EV although it IS really stupendous. I was surprised at the quality/tech issues you encountered though. Be interesting if GM has any response about that.

[@J26-e6g]

I could be wrong, but didn’t I hear Tommy say (toward the end of the video) that he didn’t have the shifter in “low” all the way up. That would make sense why his throttle modulation was so wonky. 27:09, and 17:46 they should drive the Bronco up in “D” and see what it does. Same thing with my kids R/C car, when it is in high the throttle is jumpy. When in low, it responds much slower and controlled. Also, it makes sense that the dash says that “automatic leveling” is not available, when the suspension is maxed on a 25 degree slope. Leveling means to level. 8:46. And any vehicle that gets high centered on a boulder is going to lose traction and get stuck. The Hummer is amazing. The rear street buggy guy knew what to to. Great very video. You guys should get an award for cinematography.

[@RMC2021]

I love that you guys take these vehicles where they are actually worked and tested. In my opinion, the HummerEV is NOT the ultimate off roader at all. The bronco and wrangler rubicon will always do better than the hummer due to the size and weight. I'm pretty disappointed that the Hummer had all of the electronic bugs and failure to engage lockers etc... The lockers in the Hummer don't seem to be a true locker like the wrangler and bronco are equipped with. I think the HummerEV is about as off road worthy as the power wagon - has all the gadgets and the power to do heavy trails but the limit will always be the size and weight. If Hummer was smart they'd make something the size of the H3.

[@saltyfloridaman7163]

Jeep best offroader? You spelled Geo Tracker with a 6in lift, 33s, drive train upgrade with front and rear lockers, snorkel kit and a cummins 4bt swap wrong (jk)

[@RMC2021]

@@saltyfloridaman7163 yeah that’s about as good as it gets for a good trail rig but for a stock vehicle the wrangler/bronco are hard to touch.

[@saltyfloridaman7163]

@@RMC2021 I'm just being an idiot really, for stock or under $10k in mods on top of purchase, Jeep Wranglers, Ford Broncos, and Hummer H3s are probably the holy trinity of modern American offroad SUVs

[@RMC2021]

@@saltyfloridaman7163 no worries - I agree with you

[@liamn8638]

Verified what I figured would be the best place for one of those things: a rich person's garage. I'll keep my Jeep.

[@speed284504]

I find it funny that the hummer is essentially neutered from the factory unless you launch it. You would figure a vehicle that makes enough torque to launch 9000 pounds like the hummer would make enough power to climb up a curb... After the mishap when y'all picked it up and this video, I wouldn't trust an all electric GM vehicle as far as I could throw it.

[@superhawk20002]

The Bronco keeps growing on me more and more. The vehicles are just so different, and almost purpose built. GM can scream offroad capability all they want, but the Hummer will never compare to the Bronco on rough terrain like you guys were on -> weight, width, COG, and even ease/reliability of systems. I have a feeling I will personally NEVER see a Hummer out on any trails, maybe a gravel road or a campground. And even thats a remote possibility unless campgrounds install charging stations and infrastructure... out in the middle of nowhere.

[@cristianhernandez8176]

The hummer is something you don't really wanna take off-road it's 120k🤦‍♂️and they got it stuck on a rock

[@Bacnow]

Yeah..I owned a 2017 Rubicon and really enjoyed driving it (both on and off road)! Now, however, i own a Badlands Bronco and can honestly say that it’s the best vehicle that I’ve ever owned in terms of enjoyment! That Hummer is going to fail during an off road adventure at some point (assuming that someone is crazy enough to try it) and will be a b*tch to recover!

[@krane15]

And there's a dozen thing the Hummer can do that the Bronco can't. The Hummer is really in a class of its own.

[@brandonhinton866]

Don't get your panties all twisted up, compare apples to apples

[@powtheory867]

Not gonna lie, watching tommy get mad is super funny. He gets so stressed compared to his cool, collected dad.

[@zachariewright1690]

That's a big vehicle to take on those narrow trails. Good job, Tommy. I learned a lot about offroading from watching you and the other TFL guys.

[@cherokeelaketennessee7895]

No way I would consider the Hummer, almost like GM released it before it was ready. I've been driving Toyota trucks for 30 plus years and will continue to because they do it right. Thanks for the honest reviews, really enjoy all your channels.

[@mikeluther60]

You guys should’ve brought a third vehicle and had that be a Rivian and a fourth one to be the last generation gas hummer

[@alphawoolf5981]

For the $150,000 that Hummer would cost me I'd expect it to make me lunch when we got to the top. Bronco all the way!

[@frankr111th]

The Hummer's size and weight is always going to make it a compromised Off-roader compared to something like a Bronco or a Wrangler. I would love to see GM put all that off-road tech into something smaller, even smaller than the Hummer SUV.

[@jeffwill4923]

Lesser models are coming with over 600hp. Size should be smaller because of different battery.

[@DalesDeadBug]

That Hummer isn’t even mine, but I was puckering up just watching it get stuck on that rock.. I’m a Coloradan stuck in Virginia right now and you guys always make me miss the trails there.

[@YTYTYTY7]

I am actually impressed that the wheels did not fall off with the heavy weight.

[@Maximum_777]

20:11, perfect example of what actual locking diffs can do, that you can't exactly do with a fake locking diff that works by driving two electric motors at the same speed. The hummer makes it through that just fine still, but a normal jeep, engine replaced with an electric motor, is what a perfect electric off roader would be, and RC crawlers are the best example of this, especially insane stuff like MOA Comp crawlers that have a motor for the front axle, and one for the rear axle, but not one motor per wheel.

[@infernoking7504]

I love how that hummer already has quality issues

[@xm3ntal620]

Highly disturbing the front locker switch is limp and won't turn on.

[@infernoking7504]

My 1988 Lincoln town car is 33 years old and has better quality switches🤣

[@AndrewAMartin]

@@xm3ntal620 I'm guessing that this Press Vehicle has been beat on by other journalists prior to TFL getting it. But not good in any case...

[@marcjohnson8488]

The cost of high tech, a stupid little front locker switch that is broke can strand you out in the middle of nowhere

[@zachanderson963]

its a GM product..

[@zman92630]

There are novel features on the Hummer like auto-airing down the tires, rear wheel steer, suspension height adjust, crab mode, etc but I would never consider this vehicle for off-road. The Bronco would be my choice, if pressed. That said, I will never give up my '03 T4R, which I built for offroad and owe nothing on it. 🙂Thanks for the video.

[@Lord_Marco]

I think the tires don't air down automatically. It just gives you a signal when the desired psi is reached, but it looks like you have to let the air out manually, at least that's what it looked like on the video.

[@paulm6481]

A better comparison would be Hummer vs. that Rivian truck.

[@kevinfitzpatrick5949]

The vivian is more like an electric Honda ridgeline. A glorified electric SUV

[@jakeesayian2687]

Mmm yes GM, this looks very “greatest off roader of all time”

[@streetsurvivor687]

You have to turn off the traction control to get over the rocks that's why when you hit full throttle the tires are barely spinning

[@vettle1]

"Make the best off-roader ever!" What he heard, "Make it wide as a heavy duty and weigh almost five tons and make sure the off-road stuff doesn't work."

[@edinreviews]

Well done to GM for making an off-roader that’s just as capable as a lightly modified LR Disco 2 😜👏🏻

[@Stylemaster911]

Right! GM set out to make THE. BEST. OFF.ROAD.VEHICLE. But... yeah lol. It's a 9000lb brick with pretty small wheels given how big and heavy it is.

[@uwharriebigfoothunter]

That Hummer is no were near a Discovery! The Hummer is terrible!

[@theglitch99]

For 110k you could have a way better machine w/evil gas engine!! I prefer the evil gas engine and money in my pocket!

[@edinreviews]

Just watched the towing video with the Hummer. Max towing 7500lbs? Even my standard Disco 2 TD5 can beat that. Though 7700lbs wouldn’t be much fun with 136bhp 😳😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@uwharriebigfoothunter]

@@edinreviews 😯 You're from Scotland! 😄My mother's side are MacKinnon's.

[@neimadnos6977]

That Bronco is just awesome. Ford did a great job designing that vehicle. The Hummer looks great , but suffers from first year model issues. I wish Toyota would refresh the FJ to compete with the Bronco.

[@blang38]

What? Bronco has had PLENTY of first year issues...including an ongoing issue with the motor.

[@raionshishi8290]

@@blang38 The issues the Bronco suffered were nothing like this, at worst it had some issues with the roof with hard tops, if that's the worst thing I can remember from it's first few years than I can say with confidence the Bronco was pretty well made and is at the moment nearly perfected.

[@blang38]

@@raionshishi8290 So you are saying that a dash switch is much worse than roof issues. Ok, I sense you are a fanboying a bit here...noted.

[@neimadnos6977]

@@blang38 I agree with you. Most new models have issues. I only spoke on the Hummer issues because this video is about the Ford Bronco and the GM Hummer and in this video the Hummer was having issues and not the Bronco, so that was the reason for my comment. I'm a huge Toyota fanboy so I have no dog in this fight and I know the first year Tundra has had problems also, so the comment was base off the title and issue the Hummer had in this video vs the Ford. I hope that help users understand more about my original comment.

[@allergictoglobalists]

I think that Hummer was designed for use by people like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone to look cool while driving to the Gucci store. To many trips on off road and that thing will be sitting in a salvage yard or back at GM for repairs.

[@quadeemhall5297]

Honestly the person driving the hummer is a whinny little brat. He should have had it in extract mode from the jump. why try it out in normal mode when he should know there's big rocks on this trail. That's why he hit the battery. His dad finally had to step in like hey this car weighs 9000 pounds punch it through the obsticals and stop being scared(freaking out as stated at 21:17) just so annoying hearing him cry. Now as far as the vehicles there both capable but in different ways. The Bronco has bigger tires first advantage-not sure if their stock. The bronco is lighter. The hummer has more torque first advantage for hummer, has crab walk and extract mode-ride hight (won't work because he's not leveled.)

[@j.r.f8381]

The Hummer is a ridiculous vehicle.

[@raynellholmes1011]

The hummers seems like a quality nightmare.

[@no1hCanada]

Typical GM quality control problems. They always give you a dream vehicle till everything starts falling apart

[@paulpaulie]

Tfl the truck channel for non truck guys. Props for KZbin spreading the American dream

[@rossmartens]

Gotta love 100 plus k of gm build quality 👌

[@timbocross]

I would like to see the Rivian on the same trail and see if it fairs any better

[@Ww8.3]

The rivian is about as capable as a Subaru

[@michaelfederico2873]

Watch long way up they have rivian 1 and 2 in it.

[@migueljardim8177]

It would do a lot better, especially the R1S with a better breakover angle.

[@IKnewMickey]

This 9400 lbs hummer hits obstacles hard!! Even so, 3mph or so of momentum is the difference in many vehicles between making progress or not. Add the steepness, momentum is key, that's what suspension ground clearance and skid plates are for. Imo this hummer is slightly better than a softroader.

[@izom]

guy stops evry second- zero momentum- either hes afraid or cant drive ??

[@calebharris4127]

@@izom ya hard to watch. I was yelling at my phone lol

[@anthonymrskipt9252]

Saw a guy taking his new Hummer up Curtis Canyon (unimproved dirt road rather than a real Jeep trail like Red Cone) in Jackson, WY two weekends ago. I was coming down, so didn’t get to see how it faired, but I was happy to see one actually out there getting dirty with an actual owner. You guys should find that guy and see what he thinks!

[@matthewgaines10]

GM gave the engineers a mission to make the ultimate off-roader and they failed. Again. Likely the accountants sabotaged the whole thing. GM didn’t even make it particularly reliable on road. Taking this vehicle anywhere away from a dealer is high risk. GM doesn’t fail to disappoint. Bad button and failed systems. A terrible outcome for something that costs so much. The Hummer sounds good on paper.

[@petertousignant6566]

My 2nd or 4th video, I like the honesty. Totally transparent review. Manufacturer should have you do reviews during design and prototype phases

[@scotturich]

In the spring you should see if you can do 3 sub 15k off-roaders up red cone and see if they can go against the Bronco on Red Cone. Ideally something like an FJ, H3, and LR3. See if BFgoodrich would sponsor tires. With off-roaders approaching 100k it would be awesome to see if you can get the same capability for under 20k.

[@trailrunnah8886]

I don't think you can get an FJ that's drivable for under 15K, haha.

[@scotturich]

@@trailrunnah8886 you can find them but they have 300k miles. Fj is like cockroach they never truly die unless they are wrecked

[@Deatomizer]

GM quality at it finest :/

[@ronvanr5359]

Maybe they will make the hummer in the HR2 size? Sounds like a little smaller and light would certainly give it some advantages.

[@jeffwill4923]

The lesser models might be similar to HR2. They will have over 600hp.

[@chir0pter]

wont have as much range then

[@jeffwill4923]

@@chir0pter That's true lesser models maybe lighter but range could suffer.

[@chir0pter]

@@jeffwill4923 I actually have no idea if the scaling works like that but it does in boats 😄 anyway all of these EV offroading videos are automatic skips for me until batteries make a quantum leap in energy density and recharge time.

[@jeffwill4923]

@@chir0pter The suv model has less power and less range. Wheel base is shorter vs truck. Battery is smaller. Torque is similar but only around 830hp.

[@caseyfugatt8569]

That Hummer is nothing more than a novelty for the wealthy...

[@tristansundquist1834]

Man that’s crazy. It’s almost like people have been having issues with the new Silverado ZR2.

[@jubowub3685]

I have a feeling GM isn’t loving this video. Ford likely is though lol.

[@jeffwill4923]

They probably disappointed but lesser models are coming. Size will be smaller to this truck because battery is different. Suv has better clearance and shorter wheelbase. Will benefit from a longer development window. Truck was done in less then 2 yrs.

[@towjamb57]

I have a feeling GM doesn't expect its customers to take this immense, heavy and expensive truck on such a trail. This is clearly a show truck.

[@jasonwahl2510]

$100k GM with the switches from a Geo Metro.

[@bradkarm1]

Fantastic video from the TFL team. Great from beginning to end, well done.

[@johnallen4793]

Thank you for another great video an evaluation of 2 good trucks. 😃 🙏 BTW some of your puns get me chuckling. Keep up the great work 💯👍

[@justaname109]

I have to say, if GM’s engineers goal was to build the best off road vehicle, they absolutely failed. The Bronco at nearly 1/3 the cost is wildly more capable

[@Tegridynews]

So GM failed at making the ultimate off rodor.. 🙃

[@americanrambler4972]

Looks like the new Hummer might be a little short on standard mechanical brake capacity. When Tommy went across that creek at the end, a whole bunch of steam came from those wheels around the brakes.

[@calebnation6155]

Behind an 18” wheel, you’re not fitting *that* huge of a brake rotor. It may have the capacity to clamp & lock the tires but repeatability or longevity on longer grades with 9500lb before loads….

[@sheriflatif7800]

Can feel Tommy’s stress

[@josephtucciarone6878]

Thank you for showing us the capabilities of the new ev Hummer. If you have multiple people placing rocks while you drive, the vehicle failed that test. It did not make it over. Also, If one engages max height, then one should expect leveling to be disengaged, since max dose not permit lowering any wheel to level.

[@quadeemhall5297]

well the hummer driver is not skilled at all hard to say the vehicle failed when there is a poor driver and it made it through. but the driver had no momentum when he needed it and cried like a spoiled brat 70% of vehicle