What The Heck Is Going On At Toyota?

[@Josh-179]

Toyota, and even more true with trucks, sell almost entirely on the idea of being the reliable choice. If they lose that, it's over.

[@Matt123a]

Ford owners put up with it.

[@panzer_TZ]

Most of their vehicles are average and/or nothing special in most aspects. (I've owned two Toyotas, I'm not trying to be a hater) Without that reliability, you might as well get a vehicle that does other aspects better. It makes it even harder when the Toyota Tax has gone out of control since the pandemic.

[@tylerproctor4878]

Totally see both of your points but Ford is much more innovative as it pertains to trucks. Atm I am not confident in the reliability of any midsize trucks. Maybe nissan Is ok right now. But to my point the ranger is the most refined atm. It's the coolest midsize truck on the block

[@Josh-179]

@@Matt123a , that's the point, most people prefer to buy American trucks as they are typically better in other aspects and people like to be loyal to American brands when it comes to trucks. The reason you buy a Tundra is perceived reliability and longevity. Without that, outside of being a Toyota loyalist you're not going to buy one.

[@thewolf9851]

They sell with the goal of fulfilling the americans' desires to drive big useless cars in order to seem like they're skillful and important so that they could make up for their lack of intelligence and their big egos

[@ChiTownTx]

Massive price increase yet tons of cost cutting going on. No real bump stops, plastic skid plates, overheating trans due to no trans cooler. Don't get me wrong, it's a pretty truck, and not saying Toyota can't turn it around. But by Toyota standards, in it's current form; it's a shitbox.

[@HiPlains1]

@@NewCastleIndiana Frontiers are pretty beefy with proper frame mounted bump stops and a trans intercooler mounted up front with the RAD. The Daimler Benz 9 speed is a proven transmission and I've not heard of issues on the forums since they started using it in 2020. The 9G-Tronic transmission has been out since 2013. As for Nissans motors the 3.8 DI is a great motor. Not surprising as its based on VQ technology. Also the box frame is uniform thickness whereas Toyota thins out parts of the frame in sections. I can't imagine why considering their issues with rust. In short, the Frontier is still the heavy ass tank its always been. Its essentially the same old school truck its been since 2005. Comparing the plasticky tacoma using cheaper components I'd take a Frontier built in Canton Mississippi every day of the week and twice on Sundays. People just don't report the issues like you hear from the new tacomas. And its because Nissan decided to not over modernize it. The fact it still has hydraulic steering shows how Nissan keep a working design into the new generation.

[@aaronberg5708]

@NewCastleIndiana lol, buddy you have no idea. Nissan is killing it with the frontier. Don't talk smack when it's not valid

[@HiPlains1]

@@aaronberg5708 Its a good truck but I'd wouldn't say Nissan is exactly killing it. Frontiers are piling up on dealer lots. Mine has 58 trucks. I've never seen that many. So sales have slowed a bit since the beginning of the year. But I don't blame Nissan as much as buyers are drying up. New cars/truck and house sales are pretty flat. Personal debt is very high and many just can't make car purchases . Frontier is a better value but its still pricey. As a whole Nissan didn't make hardly any money last year. They had to rely on heavy advertising and discounting. They are coming out with new models so we will see. I've still think they offer allot of stuff for good prices but most just want a yota or honda hybrid. That seems to be the hotcake with people buying around the 33-40K range for small Suvs. Nissan just put a real ZF 9 speed into the murano so that's a start. They really need to offer hybrid rogue etc.. They still investing allot in EV but that's just a waste of money IMO.

[@truckerrickakamanowar]

@@HiPlains1 I agree.

[@Georgewashington-o7m]

umm there is NOTHING wrong with this truck troll

[@BryceLovesTech]

$60k Tacomas, $90k Tundras ridiculous

[@SJDJFJFSKSXNDJWJQI]

Ya for a loaded top trim.

[@Ichibuns]

@@SJDJFJFSKSXNDJWJQI A Taco starting at over $36k with 4 wheel drive is still really high. I haven't found one for under $37k on a base model. I don't understand people complaining about the price of the highest trims but prices are still crap.

[@wallace3953]

Taco is only worth 35k, max.

[@dvan7117]

Not to mention $90K Fords, Chevys and Rams.

[@ajherman]

@@SJDJFJFSKSXNDJWJQI you can spend over $50k and still have a Taco with cloth seats. You can't physically option a fully loaded Frontier to over $50k

[@cmdrls212]

I'm not leaving Toyota. Toyota left me.

[@davidfuentes9812]

I had a Toyota tundra 2024 I crashed a trailer in the back and it was destroyed; but before the accident I experienced several problems 1- problems with the battery was discharged -2 problems with 4x 4 (3 problems with the radio screen 4- problems with the hybrid fan 5- at the time of the accident the seat belts were not activated and we ended up injured, you pay too much for the truck and having so many problems is disappointing; I like Toyota but now I don’t know what truck to buy advise me which truck is recommended, 1980; 1990; 2000, 2010; 2020; because 2021 upwards they disappoint

[@wyattmerrill2588]

I want a truck with a 90s interior, modern safety, Bluetooth, back up camera, 4x4 and lockers. That's all folks.

[@TheReal_JG]

@wyattmerrill2588 Nissan's Frontier should suffice. The only reliable V6 left in the midsized market.

[@jonwalsh1505]

Toyota’s problem started a few years back when control of the company was removed from family into the hands of corporate executives who are simply interested in making their bonuses. “Build it right and build it to last” is no longer in their lexicon. Common concern across the industry.

[@seumasmackinlay]

It's like what I read from someone else recently: Car companies are no longer in the business of making cars --they are in the business of raking in profits --cars are just the marketing

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

@@seumasmackinlayYou are right and wrong at the same time. Cars are built to be extremely reliable with obsolescence built in. No one wants a car without Bluetooth or Power Windows for instance. This is why they keep adding more features so people upgrade their old/reliable model for a new model that has more features and even better reliability. No one is going to purchase a car from the same manufacturer if they have out of pocket expenses besides tire, oil changes, filters, and maybe brakes.

[@HiPlains1]

That entire TNGA platform is garbage compared to stuff they used to make like the V8 tundra, GX 460, or the 4 runner that they just shut production on. Yep even that will be garbage as it will be based of the new taco. I have no interest in anything yota. If you want a reliable small SUV go with a subaru or Mazda.

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

@@HiPlains1 The new TNGA platform is superior to the old stuff (stronger, stiffer, more rust resistant, but smaller frame). They just have a few kinks to work out. The V8s weren’t without issues (head gaskets, cam tower leaks, air injection issues in earlier models, oil pump failure, etc.). Toyota issues are still orders of magnitude less than the domestic competitors and less than half of the best Japanese competitors.

[@gregducati999]

@@user-tb7rn1il3q these modern cars do most defanitly not have more reliability

[@The-Jokes-on-You]

I personally want less tech in my vehicles

[@bowhunter4893]

Agree100%. Brake controller and a back up camera is all thats needed.

[@tacomafan5186]

Exactly

[@outlawedmedia4336]

Not me, I love the tech, I just want it more reliable.

[@Sullivan09300]

@@bowhunter4893 then go buy a truck from 2005, were not all boomers.

[@pinkiewerewolf]

100% agree. Less tech.

[@jgg204]

So let me get this straight. Toyota raised the Tacoma price 14%-20%, moved production entirely to Mexico for the North American Market (they were making many still in the USA up until a year ago) and thus quality nose dived, and they threw in twin turbo 4 cylinder engines including into their flagship Land Cruiser. Sounds like we have entered a really really bad time to buy a Toyota

[@jakeyoung661]

Yep. I've always had toyotas, traded a 3rd gen tacoma for the new tundra when it came out in 22. It was poor quality. Luckily I got out of it before the engine blew and now drive my first gmc sierra. These new Toyota trucks are overpriced shitboxes.

[@jgg204]

@@jakeyoung661 my buddy also got a new GMC Sierra. he said with the cash incentives, financing incentives, and the dealer discounts, they were practically giving these things away. he said it's the best truck he has ever driven in his entire life.

[@LuisUrbieta]

@@jakeyoung661 what type of car is completely immune from problems? I feel like we might have to ditch our cars and start using bicycles because if cars are not being reliable then we might have to use bicycles!

[@SebastianSerrano-d1n]

Toyota sa k s!! 6 billions back in 2010 for faulty computers!!! It's been crap

[@Clockwork0nions]

Depending on the trim, prices are up 50%.

[@Tankerpaul223]

Its time to let the industry crash. You are just part of the problem if you agree to pay $60k + for a 4cyl pickup truck. Dont even try to defend it, you are just a fool.

[@steve8803]

@Tankerpaul223 Truck engines are more powerful and fuel efficient than ever. You're stuck in the past.

[@Tankerpaul223]

@steve8803 Bullshit. These turbo 4cyl truck motors are straight garbage these days. Especially from GM.

[@DavidGotelli710]

@@Tankerpaul223 They really are. Naturally aspirated is the way to go.

[@michealholcomb1854]

I'm a toyota master technician of 20 plus years, and I can attest that quality control and engineering have gone way down. I am currently replacing one of those tundra engines. None of it is designed for good servicabitly and everything is overcomplicated. I'm on the second day of this job and Toyota is paying only 13.5 hours in labor for this recall. Which is not enough time to do this job with the how this truck is built. Toyota needs to do some serious restructuring of their quality control, design, and engineering . I have fewer problems with my 2004 Tacoma with 250k than there's new ones.

[@brahsumatra]

As. Toyota service advisor, warranty administrator I can confirm Toyota’s WTH moments on quality control and reliability are piling up.

[@mylesgray3470]

Yet prices are higher than ever. I’ve been pretty loyal to Toyota since I bought my first vehicle, an 89 pickup in 2001 but at this point I feel they have lost their way. My 2013 Prius, soon to be replaced, is likely my last Toyota.

[@Citygamelabs]

@@mylesgray3470 What brand would you go with if not Toyota? Honda?

[@mylesgray3470]

@@Citygamelabs I recently had a 2014 Honda accord and that was a great car but I replaced it with a Tesla Model Y, and it’s been excellent. Did have one camera that was fogging up replaced under warranty but otherwise flawless for the first 20k miles

[@GAderly-fn5ly]

​@Citygamelabs Definitely NOT Honda, they are WORSE! I saw Civics with sticker prices OVER 50000$ ! NOT for me.

[@Citygamelabs]

@@GAderly-fn5ly thanks

[@chuckwalla2967]

Days of simple, inexpensive, reliable Toyotas are over.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

*in the U.S. look up the Champ truck sold in other markets

[@sanangelo7926]

Toyota was never really inexpensive. In the past they were priced a little higher but had lots more reliability.

[@993mike]

⁠ I’ve owned 3 Lexus GX’s for the last 20 years and loved them, and had planned to buy the GX550 Overland. With all the issues now, especially with the turbo V-6, I’ll pass for now.

[@sethdawg]

@@chuckwalla2967 off to Craigslist.

[@jamesgizasson]

​@sanangelo7926 My dad bought a brand new Toyota pickup in 94 for like six grand. He sold it years later and broke even. They absolutely used to be cheaper.

[@jamesp6283]

My friend is an engineer at Toyota he said the engine debris is a lie and it’s because they didn’t design the tolerances tight enough. Also he said when they forced akio Toyoda (grandson of the founder) reliability went out the door because akio implemented kaizen (philosophy of continuous improvement on what you have) the new ceo and board want to try all new things to maximize profit and the shit show what Toyota is now is the result

[@Argedis]

Yup it was a design failure and they don't want to admit it. The fact that the part number for the short block changed is not a coincidence.

[@macbookpro57]

Sounds like the Boeing story all over again lol

[@Jay-me7gw]

Problem is the Koolaid drinkers are still going to buy Toyota's. Tundra sales are still doing pretty good and so far no one has knocked the Tacoma from #1 in the mid-sized segment. So those profit hungry executives are not going to realize any negatives.

[@attackb5349]

It takes a long time to turn that ship. Toyota’s reliability reputation is still firmly in place in many consumers minds. These truck issues will not help, but years of issues will need to happen before a large consumer confidence turn will happen. Most of them still harken back to the sub par Ford/GM/Chrysler quality from 20-30 years ago that is still driving their decision to go Toyota today.

[@timalan7406]

@@Jay-me7gw Could say the same thing about any car/truck manufacture and their fanboys.

[@jefferyG499]

Coming from a new Audi background, the prices on the "upgrade packages" for the Taco are hilarious. NINE THOUSAND dollars for fake leather, heated seats, audio upgrade, sunroof, power tailgate, and some driver assistance features on an already-40k midsize truck is ridiculous. This is upgrade pricing that people used to mock on Euro luxo-barges as being outlandish.

[@Stinkysock11]

2023 Tacoma TRD pro owner here, paid $53,000 for it. Running on 23,000 miles so far and the truck is doing great so far. I hope I snatched one of the last good ones, because this will be my last new vehicle purchased. I will never buy new again, specially with every manufacturer not caring about quality anymore.

[@georgeduanejr]

@@Stinkysock11 same here. Only 3.6k on mine. And my vin is 30k units past the tsb. Runs great

[@shauncollins2017]

I haul cars for a living. Almost every used 2023-2024 Tundra I've hauled have 2 issues. 1) Volume knob on the radio is loose and usually pops off. 2) Drivers seat side panel is cracked into oblivion. No matter the mileage. I moved a 2024 with 775 miles with both of these issues.

[@shauncollins2017]

@gravityfab No. They were bought at auction. This is just what I've noticed is wrong with each of them.

[@tomjohnson8737]

Lol that's it.

[@Naturallytalented]

People are growing heavier 😂

[@b3ear509]

Damn, I have a 23' Tundra. The volume knob broke off first week I owned it and the seat side panel is cracked all to hell. So disappointed. Wish I would'a kept my GEN 2.

[@aaronberg5708]

​@gravityfab what do you think? Geeze.

[@dirtdog726]

Every truck should come with front tow hooks. What a shame.

[@montefiveforty1]

Easier for the flatbed guys to hook up to.

[@howdydonny]

100%, I'd go further and say every vehicle should (just hidden under the vehicle).

[@aerynlovell4754]

​​@@dirtdog726 The "factory tow hooks" are designed for light duty. They are for strapping a vehicle down during transport. If you get stuck in snow and need a gentle tug to get unstuck then factory tow hook would work. But if you get stuck in sand or deep mud and need a snatch recovery then the factory tow hooks could break and fly through the air at high speed. You need "rated recovery points" that are heavy steel brackets that bolt to the frame with bolts that won't sheer off easily.

[@DaBrute]

Its just crazy to me. I've never owned a truck or SUV that didn't have recovery hooks in front

[@tommyh.8391]

Toyota especially, should have tow hooks on their trucks.

[@finerbiner]

I'll bet that a large majority wishes for less tech, not more.

[@Jay-me7gw]

Doubt. I dont know many people that want less.

[@8__D]

@@Jay-me7gw I want this

[@gabrielpaulsmom]

I want way less crap on my car

[@aerynlovell4754]

​@Jay-me7gw There was a video by Top Gear called "Boss Chat 2.0" with Koenigsegg, Rimac, and Hennessey. John Hennessey mentioned a new car trend that is the opposite of a Resto-Mod that he called Retro-Mod. People who take a new vehicle and modify it to look and function more like an older vehicle.

[@Doomzdayxx]

@@Jay-me7gw This. Consumers drive most of the changes to modern vehicles. We have all this over engineered garbage and uselessness be cause of idiotic people. Government policies sure don't help matters.

[@alexsystems2001]

In 2014 I bought a brand new Tacoma… 5 speed manual, no power windows, no power mirrors, no power door locks, I did get 4x4 and a 4cyl engine. You always say “these high tech trucks sell” well, what other choice do consumers have. Even back in 2014 I had to drive 900 miles to get my truck because nobody nearby had one on the lot. That should tell you something. If the grocery stores stopped having veggies and only stocked candy, guess what? The sales would show consumers don’t buy veggies anymore. So does that mean that consumers don’t want veggies? NO they just can’t get them anymore! Come on guys wake up! I think very few people really actually want more tech in their cars.

[@drecksaukerl]

0:10 Is Toyota quality on trucks going way down?. Doing even a bit of research would lead to the question "Is the pope Catholic?"

[@robertjohnston3658]

@@drecksaukerl I just thought he was a useless puppet!

[@robertjohnston3658]

I just thought he was a useless puppet

[@corygreen8226]

They test drove a brand new Tacoma offroad on a small icy spot and it broke!!! Toyota said it was driver error basically, but engineers are working on a fix!! 😂😂😂

[@sm65-wj2bc]

Didn't look like driver error to me

[@christopherbiomass7155]

They did not say it was driver error. They said it was a software issue.

[@Slammingutz]

@@christopherbiomass7155 it was a software issue!?!? That’s is hilarious. What a garbage truck from Toyota. Software wasn’t a problem before in the previous model of Tacoma. It’s a cheaply made and poorly designed truck. Period.

[@atg1338]

Yeah sure

[@honda116969]

Save money on the front end, u lose it on the back end! Toyota lost me as a customer!!

[@mattmcfly2165]

Literally!

[@Doc1855]

I’m super happy that I bought my 23 TRD Off Road

[@jermainec2462]

Oh calm down...

[@Doc1855]

@@jermainec2462 The people whose transmissions have failed with the 24 Tacoma’s are having to wait up to 6 months for a replacement. I don’t blame them for NOT being calm.

[@jamesm568]

Oh I know as I took my 2022 Toyota Tacoma and traded it in on a 2025 Nissan Frontier. I find it amazing that I can sell a truck that is 3 years old more than I paid for it.

[@mserica6487]

If you don't like what companies are doing, stop buying their products.

[@jamesp6283]

Most people are doing that hence why Tacomas and tundras aren’t selling to save their lives

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@jamesp6283 They are still selling. Tundra is on track to hit almost 160k sales this year, which is almost as many as they have ever sold. Tacoma is down, but still #1 in mid-sized trucks.

[@rustynail7866]

@@jamesp6283 All manufacturer sales are down. Probably because of that extra zero they put in the price.

[@waterloo123100]

@@jamesp6283I still see many great cars going to the junk yard because people didn’t want to put money into something because it’s 30 years old smh that old car is gonna be twice as reliable as their new car

[@tuan056585]

Yes I did. I was intended to buy a 2025 Crown Insignia but ended up bought a Subaru Outback touring and couldn't be happier. I don't trust Toyota quality any more. My current 2017 Highlander platinum will be the last Toyota in family.

[@awboat]

Hidden in the menu should never be a thing when in a vehicle. NEVER.

[@Jayyy-7]

for some stuff it makes sense like maintenance modes for Electronic parking brake or various service resets

[@michaelw6277]

@@Jayyy-7 yeah there’s a lot of crap I’m not trying to get to unless the car is parked, but if there isn’t a button front and center for things like defrost I’m not buying the car.

[@spelunkerd]

It's not just Toyota, it's all vehicles and all manufacturers. Blame government regulations that force manufacturers to design fuel saving at the cost of reduced reliability. Ultimately with over a dozen computers in a vehicle, something is gonna break. What irks me is the way manufacturers don't feel the responsibility to continue selling modules and parts for vehicles beyond their warranty. Filling landfills with vehicles that can't be fixed is a solution to manufacturers but completely opposite to environmental goals.

[@lannylancaster62]

I've been a Tacoma owner since 1994. I like my trucks in a plain wrapper and reliable. Toyota has become the sleeping giant and the rest of the manufacturers are getting the best of them. If I were buying today, I'd be hard pressed to choose a Toyota. The pricing, value and reliability seem to be going in the wrong direction.

[@pathunter7003]

Sleeping giant?🙄 More like a puppy taking a nap😝

[@mmr0221]

@@lannylancaster62 get a Nissan Frontier

[@mrcnorth7149]

All newer Toyota trucks are: 1) Too expensive, 2) Filled with too much crap, people did not ask for, adding more $$$, 3) Toyota's Legendary QDR is nowhere to be found, the new trucks are garbage, recalls, broken hardware, broken promises. I have no idea what my next Truck purchase will be, but I am pretty sure it will not be Toyota. Does anyone know who and why Toyota's QDR was executed???

[@oldrango883]

CORPORATE SHAREHOLDERS PROFITS!

[@williampisano7573]

I hate car reviews guy because they will say the ford maverick is cheap and has plastic etc but ford will be forced to add crap 💩 to it like leather steering wheels. But I don’t care 🤷 keep it cheap plastic what ever just keep it affordable

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

People complained Toyota trucks were underpowered, now that they get more power (Tundra TTV6 is much more powerful than the 5.7L V8), and now people still complain lol. Can never keep people happy. Toyota should really stop listening to people who don't even buy Toyotas.

[@stevenlefebvre2991]

@@westcoastplinkin6559 the V8 had more than enough power. I know I have two of them.

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

​@@stevenlefebvre2991 I agree. I have a 2008 Tundra and I never found it insufficient.But people did complain about the 5.7L V8 being underpowered and outdated. The TTV6 is more powerful than the V8 in every way possible. Lesson is, be careful what you wish for.

[@bigsmoke279]

My dad paid $50k for his 2018 tundra 1794 edition lol $60k for a Tacoma is insane

[@rbetan1160]

@@bigsmoke279 wow. This puts in perspective, what an awesome truck at that price. Only a few years later and that’s the price of a Tacoma that’s not even the top of the line. Idk how they are able to sell any of these trucks.

[@bigsmoke279]

⁠@@rbetan1160better question is who can afford these trucks lol. My dad’s monthly payment was about $680 at 0.1% APR when he bought it new back in 2018. People are no doubt paying $1200+ for a truck these days

[@mikefoehr235]

I got my 20 TRD off-road for $51 000 CAD

[@Toby_Flenderson_1982]

While it’s actually sad what’s going on, I’m also halfway glad to see it as my 2021 Tacoma TRD OR value/resell remains super high! And if I ever had to get another midsize anytime soon, I would for sure be looking at frontiers. And yes, big smoke, I almost bought an SR5 tundra crew cab 4 x 4 for $39,000 in 2020. I had the deal on the table and walked away. I couldn’t justify the size but now I would take that in a heartbeat.

[@Keefer24]

🧢

[@maximilianozamorategui2608]

I was planning to get a Tacoma but to expensive so I got the Nissan Frontier PRO-4X fully loaded 6 cylinder NON TURBO $50.000 Canadian = $37.000 US and I am very happy with it. Thanks for your video very informative. Pace ✌

[@DavidGotelli710]

The frontier is the better buy for now.

[@TechMule59]

I'm glad I bought a Honda Ridgeline. it has the largest midsize truck cabin space, most useful bed configuration with a trunk and trick tailgate, Non turbo V6. SUV ride quality, decent mpg. I don't care about off road use or towing capacity, if you do, don't get a Ridgeline.

[@theresad6990]

I have a 2010 Ridgeline and it has been the best vehicle I have ever owned. I have used it to tow a smaller vintage trailer but have a larger trailer now and sadly I need to get a bigger truck. Right now I'm struggling with a decision on that. If Honda had a full size pick up with good towing capacity I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I'm still going to keep my Ridgeline after I get the full size. It's going to be a hard vehicle to part with.

[@davidjernigan8161]

The lame excuse of machining debris in the engines and transmissions is the worst excuse ever. The failures would not be almost identical between individual vehicles.

[@Reu_ag]

It is really incredible that people like you don't believe machine debris in an engine will cause engine failure, it's not rocket science dude.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

@@Reu_agnot the same part or place every time. Don’t be dense.

[@is6566]

@John… Also, I think that machine debris left in the engine would cause a problem right away not 10,000 or more miles later. Don’t tell me that a machine debris ping ponging around there for hundred, or two hundred driving hours at thousands of Rotations Per Minute is a believable cause for failure. Of course machine debris will cause engine failure but it would do it on the dealer lot or pretty soon after.

[@zelenizub2036]

Had nothing to do with debris, it's most likely bad design

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

@@is6566 exactly. I currently own a 24 sequoia. The engine has been acting funny. Just turned 6000 miles on it.

[@WhatTheIfYouSeeKay]

It was the ADD that blew on your truck. And a Toyota’s fix was to de tune the truck, not upgrade the part….. also, these new Tacoma and parts 4runners dont have axle bump stops! Which cause the shocks to blow through the mount….. the subscription things is absolutely ridiculous considering the price we pay for these trucks. Should already be included.

[@jvogel431]

I recent bought a full sized truck. I have a 2019 Tacoma and I love it. So, I looked closely at the Tundra. I bought an F150. It was less expensive and had the same level of options and features. And, it is the best selling vehicle in the US. I figured there must be a good reason that so many people love Fords. I do. The F150 is awesome.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

That’s because every time the ford breaks, you have to buy a new one.

[@captain_storms5998]

@@JohnDoe-nz6bkbest comment 😂

[@whammerjammer1562]

The only reason Ford can claim "best selling" is because the government buys tons of em

[@layne4376]

@@JohnDoe-nz6bk Apparently Toyota is following that model now.

[@neanders2]

I was a GM guy growing up but have owned Ram’s too. Tried a Ford and honestly, it’s the most sorted truck I’ve had. I’ve had a few F150’s now and they just feel right. Not perfect but just “right”.

[@AZFarmFun-hp1cu]

3:16 That front diff grenading itself is tragic, in the sense it had almost no load being elevated and very limited traction, barely above idle. Doing a u-turn on level asphalt causes more driveline stress. What garbage!

[@ryankudebeh2570]

The board forced out Toyoda, and now look at this mess. They had arguably the greatest car company in history, and now, like all corporate pirates, they've started stripping it for parts. The most sold, most reliable, most respected company with the second-highest market cap, and they think they're going to increase the stock price by, what, completely trashing the entire corporate identity? Toyota isn't the bleeding edge of anything except reliability. They aren't the most comfortable, or tech-savy, or inexpensive. They built their entire company, from the ground up, on reliability and durability. Anything that damages that reputation should be a five-alarm fire for them, and instead... this. I just can't believe that the shareholders can look at this situation and stand by it. I truly think they are going to either reinstate Toyoda or someone like him, because this is economic suicide.

[@arsyadidris6349]

Hes actly the chairman of toyota motor corp right now. He upgraded. Though… im not sure wether he was set to be upgraded, he came back when problems started happening so he could try and right the ship, OR the position of “chairman” is merely a retirement post n he doesnt have any actual powers. Watever the case, 2024 has been a rough year for toyota, and all of it was their own doing. Nothing to do with what the customer want/dont want. What do i mean by this: BEVs ofcourse. While other manufacturers r having an almighty headache in downscaling their BEV production n losing billions in the process, toyota doesnt have this issue. Their issue? Recalls n scandals. One after the other at that😂

[@Nick-Who]

0:28 --> Tundra Recall - Fuel Line and Engine Issues 1:44 --> New Tacoma TSB for Automatic Transmission / Torque Converter 2:42 --> New Tacoma Traction Logic and Front Differential Issue 4:43 --> Digital Services Subscriptions 7:34 --> Pricing (Tacoma Trailhunter and TRD Pro Hybrid versions) 9:55 --> Why Hybrid in Trucks? 13:11 --> Tundra TRD Pro Recovery Hooks 15:00 --> Where is the Compact Truck? 16:43 --> Tacoma / Tundra Towing Features 19:27 --> Tacoma Back Seat

[@garyjarvis2730]

It's not just the vehicles are a disaster - their dealer base is just horrendous. They think taking advantage of their customers is just standard operating procedure. Less tech and more quality. Subscriptions on a car is just a money grab.

[@Jay-me7gw]

Toyota dealers are easily the worst I've encountered too. The attitude really turned me off. I've had better experiences at crap little used car lots.

[@jl4091]

@@Jay-me7gw 100% agree

[@K03sport]

avoid the SE FL Toyota dealer conglomerate (55+dealers across 4 states). Shady business practices through and through...

[@garyjarvis2730]

@@K03sport Absolutely true because they collude on pricing and have "fixed" the market. None of this is legal but the State of Florida refuses to crack down on the operation because they are getting paid off by the dealer network. Bogus 10K markups, addendum stickers, phony add-on products, useless insurance and warranties, etc. are all emblematic of a "Stealership". How else do you explain DOC fees over $1,000 when other states can do the same thing for under $100? If the government won't stop the gouging the consumer can by refusing to buy Toyotas until they cease the fleece.

[@jasonlee9163]

@@Jay-me7gw used inventory is even worse at Toyota dealers. Every used Tacoma is “super rare”

[@edwardweeks1539]

Toyota is not exempt to cutting corners in the name of profit on behalf of shareholders. It was going to happen eventually.

[@mattmcfly2165]

Japanese biz culture bowing to MBAs had to happen eventually.

[@MarkHoover-dv7mf]

Most of their problems are in the American market only.

[@dvandkq]

'24 TRD Pro owner since July, and I have about 1,500 miles of experience with the new truck towing a 20' 5,000 lb. toy-hauler. 2500 miles total thus far. 1. The blind-spot monitor does compensate for the trailer once the trailer's length has been programmed into the truck's "trailer manager". This is one of my favorite features. 2. I wish plugging a trailer's electrical plug into the truck would automatically activate tow/haul mode! 3. There are not electric motors (plural) in the hybrid system. There is just one electric motor, and it's buried within the transmission. I believe the combined torque of my truck is 563 ft lb. 4. Reliability concerns can be utilized as a negotiation tactic. My dealer threw in a 10 year warranty and four years of free service (as opposed to two that comes standard) when I pretended to have concerns about the engine recall.

[@blackonblackseven]

God, I love my 1992 4Runner. I just drove over 500 miles up the eastern Sierras in California with no issues at all. Solid as a rock.

[@tndeere2]

My 2003 Sequoia with 225k miles still drives like new and solid as a rock. Think our old Yotas are thing of the past

[@layne4376]

Geez. This explains why Toyota / Lexus generally uses decade old technology - proven, boring, and inefficient. Yet reliable. Any time they venture out of that model, this is what you tend to see.

[@davidmckibbin4440]

old school all day

[@CyFi6]

EPA and government regulations are not allowing this model to persist anymore. We are slowly being pushed out of vehicle ownership.

[@Argedis]

@@CyFi6 Wrong, CAFE MPG requirements are only based on Wheelbase and manufacturers aren't forced to use Turbo engines. Toyota could have kept the v6 and simply added Direct Injection to the Tacoma 4cyl and Tundra v8 to increase power and efficiency. The Frontier still has a N/A v6 and both GM and Ford have N/A v8 for their full sized trucks.

[@arsyadidris6349]

I can safely say that even the older 80s n 90s american trucks followed this philosophy of KISS (keep it simple, stupid). And toyota generally continued with KISS and on top of their kaizen well into the late2000s in the US. Heck, malaysian here, and they sold turbodiesel hilux with 4speed auto and a 4WD selector with an actual mechanical gearstick right up to the mid2010s. But then toyota fell for that “modernity” BS… n made everything complicated and unncessary.

[@Wavelover33]

5th generation 4Runner.

[@jameskoskinen6763]

Yes, Toyota quality is much lower than in recent years. Engines, transmissions, differentials, frames and shocks breaking prematurely on their truck lineup. One look at the Tacoma TRD Pro seats is enough to tell you that Toyotas lost is way. TFL truck is doing us truck owners a huge favor by shedding light on some of this

[@wallace3953]

Attention....all Moans......DO NOT BUY a TOYOTA until they bring back the OLD MODELS...

[@firefly9838]

They are built in Mexico now. Need to be built in Japan.

[@AndrewWisniewski-o6f]

Nissan frontier not a bad truck

[@MrApplesaucestuff]

except when you crash

[@pathunter7003]

It’s not that good either

[@rmontz3027]

Go drive a 2024 Tacoma TRD off road and then go drive a frontier pro4x. The pro4x is as nice if not a little better built than the Tacoma. The frontier is about 10k cheaper too

[@oldrango883]

Not a good truck either 😂

[@Ben-q9c7p]

Fanboys in here never owned or drivin a new frontier. Butthurt their beloved taco is being shit on again

[@Nd8tz]

Toyota is going downhill fast honestly since 2020 when they started implementing these garbage 4cyl turbo engines. I’m not surprised to hear any of this. It will just continue to get worse. I l’ve personally heard 4 different people I know who were Tacoma and Tundra people completely switch to the Ranger, Frontier and F-150.

[@shikcheese3234]

Really appreciate this. More channels like this need to call out these manufacturers.

[@outlawedmedia4336]

Blowing that front dif was shocking. Stopped me from buying a new tacoma.

[@bradenchurch552]

So shocking man. Breaks my heart.

[@terryhutchinson9094]

The stupid front seats in the Tacoma TRD PRO eliminate the use of the back seats. They shouldn't even bother with rear seats and put in interesting overland storage there.

[@buschfan0818]

@@terryhutchinson9094 the "overlanding storage" idea would make more sense with the Trailhunter, as that is the overlanding focused trim. TRD Pro is just standard offroading focused.

[@terryhutchinson9094]

@@buschfan0818 I understand. But those goofy Pro seats render the rear seat cushion and back completely useless. They need to do something interesting with the space.

[@alvilla701]

@terryhutchinson9094 agree, but I believe those seats are optional. but for sure, those seats are a POS

[@terryhutchinson9094]

@@alvilla701 What I understand, those seats are standard with the TRD Pro. I can certainly be wrong.

[@Keefer24]

@@alvilla701they aren’t optional, they are standard on the trd pro model.

[@paulsharp8802]

Don't forget about the front strut top hat plate that is braking when people are driving a little faster off road.

[@car-diologist]

The purpose of purchasing a Tacoma traditionally is for the reliability, affordability, and quality. Toyota has taken away the reliability, taking away the v6, giving us an unproven 4 cylinder turbo many of us don't care for. It's clear the quality is questionable based off of current 2024 Tacoma owner reports and the worst of it all is the ridiculously high msrp. With less cylinders, lack of quality and reliability and way overpriced. It makes zero sense to invest in the new Tacoma. Toyota can go pound sand, I will not be buying one.

[@killer5846]

It blows me away that my 20-year-old Toyota Sequoia is much more reliable than the new tundra and Tacoma. Also Toyota may regret moving their production out of the US and into Mexico when the new administration comes into power in January. They have been talking tariffs pretty hard and they have already targeted John Deere and I could see car manufacturers being on the scope as well. This could get very ugly for a Toyota.

[@davidjernigan8161]

Toyota is even having issues with manual transmissions. It seems the engineering department has failed miserably

[@jamesfrancis9520]

Wasn't the manual transmission issue in the tacoma due to damaged parts during assembly? That was in the first manual trucks off the assembly line. Or am I misunderstanding and it's still a problem? I was going to order a 6mt taco in the next few months.

[@pryme2013]

Truck king did a basic downshift and broke their Tacoma tester. Total garbage

[@FirstnameLastname-ni9uh]

Isn't that the same manual they used from the 2nd gen tacoma that also carried out to the 3rd gens ?

[@tim3172]

Isn't buying a slower, thirstier, and more-polluting transmission a miserable failure before you even pick it up from the dealer? Here's to hoping they drop that as an option entirely... like all of the manufacturers with a net-positive IQ score.

[@KamalaTheClown]

Was about to purchase one of these but with the INSNAE prices, engine issues and overall questionable fit and finish, I’ve decided to stick with my 2019 Tundra TRD pro

[@AGuyFromHazard]

I'd take that v8 tundra over all this turbo 4 crap they're pushing

[@bettysmith4527]

I'd keep that for another ten plus years!! Keeping my 2020 until the wheels fall off, or I don't need a truck anymore!

[@nlken7175]

Toyota had started to pennie pinch. Here in Canada I bought a 2021 Tundra limited for 56K. Same Tundra now is 74K and nothing but plastic. Toyota lost me as a loyal Owner and I Bought a Silverado.

[@taalen90]

So you sold a very reliable 2021 Tundra for a Silverado?

[@pathunter7003]

@@taalen90 I agree, a wise choice

[@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806]

I agree....unless he got one without auto start stop and/or DFM , one or the other.

[@bettysmith4527]

@@taalen90 This made me LOL as well!! You are concerned about the reliability of the newer Tundras, so you sold your 3 year old Tundra with known reliability for a Silverado..... Yea, that makes sense!

[@shazmodeus2795]

5:05 - "Music Lover" read that description, Toyota is charging you $15 a month to use Apple CarPlay or Android Auto.

[@howlingwolf125y]

I think a Big problem I see with Toyota and Lexus is that in just about every vehicle they make there is a lack of Headroom because they make the roofline too low in just about every vehicle. I am looking at competitors that see to offer more headroom.. and I am only 6 foot 2..

[@Jb-ei9fp]

The stout concept looks like a Santa Cruz lifestyle vehicle. We need a simple no frills small work truck.

[@lrich8181]

Bring back the HI-Lux.

[@wayne1916]

@@lrich8181Go to Mexico and buy one there...just can't register it in the US!

[@Kahless00]

The old v8 tundra wasnt bulletproof. It got recalled early too because the cams would snap in the engine.

[@scott8238]

yes but the TOyota fans boys don't want to hear about that or a lot of other issues.

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

@@scott8238 My 5.7L V8 Tundra has 300k on it. They really are reliable and Toyota should've kept it at least in their base level trim.

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@westcoastplinkin6559 Secondary air injection pumps, valley cover plates, cam tower leaks, valves snapping off, leaking radiators, and now apparently some issues with head gaskets make it seem like the 4.6/5.7L has the same BS issues as any other motor. The other good one is the A760 transmission failures behind the 4.6L. A lot of GX460 folks have had to do replacements.

[@westcoastplinkin6559]

@@Jay-me7gw Of course there will ALWAYS be issues with ANY vehicle. But these issues are presenting themselves when these trucks are 16+ years old. I still have my 5.7L V8 Tundra, my dad is borrowing it for work currently. It's been solid, but we would never trust a new gen Tundra over this one.

[@scott8238]

@@westcoastplinkin6559 these issues happen when they have low miles or when they are a year or two old.

[@homebuiltcamperdave5226]

I have a 23 Tacoma. It is my 7th Tacoma. Been driving and loving them since college. I replaced my 2016 at 200,000 even though it was in great shape to get a new gen3 because I wanted to give them time to work out the bugs from gen 4. This is the first Tacoma I’ve owned that was made in Mexico and I’m having to work through all kinds of issues. Disappointing. There is a neighbor that has a gen 4 Tacoma. He’s on his 3rd transmission. Truck doesn’t even have 20,000 miles on it yet. I’m not sure what’s going on. Seems like to me the new engine has all kinds of low end torque but somehow they didn’t build the rest of the drive train to handle this new torque. So their solution is to change the software to make sure the engine stays within the limits of the drivetrain? In the old days of Toyota the drivetrain would have been built to handle the torque of the engine. If my issues don’t start resolving my new one will be getting traded in for a Nissan. The frontier still had the v6 and they are now far more reliable than the Tacoma. Very disappointing. All my tacomas have been AMAZING. Hundreds of thousands of miles driven with very few problems. Even the frame issue was not as bad as the issues they are having now. Very disappointing. I’ve never considered driving anything else. But if this continues this will be my last Tacoma. They are too damn expensive now for this level of unreliability.

[@DavidGotelli710]

It's not the same Toyota quality you are used to knowing. If your 23 Tacoma goes then get a Ridgeline or a Frontier. Both naturally aspirated with good transmissions and good quality.

[@douglas18]

I wanted a Tacoma during a decade of saving. When the time finally came, the sole reason I did not buy a Tacoma was short backseat legroom. I have three boys and they will not fit in the backseat in just a few short years from now.

[@1yehny]

@@douglas18 get a Ridgeline.

[@jkropp1873]

I wanted the Tundra, but went with ford because of the engine problems 2 month’s ago.I have a 2005 Tacoma trd and its never been in a shop for any repairs with 160000 miles.

[@BrianPetersen-l2w]

Great work. I would add: lengthy delays in availability of vehicles from a dealer. Waiting for 6 to 12 months for your vehicle is ridiculous. I would also add that out here in the mid-west US dealers only stock dark exterior colors and dreary black interior colors.

[@K03sport]

yep...local (giant) gmc/buick dealer had 3 red vehicles (trucks) amongst the sea of 100+ dark suvs/trucks with some white sprinkled in...darker, basic colors lease (hint hint) better. Also, everyone is worried about resale than owning something enjoyable and exciting to look at.....

[@TS-ic1ol]

I can’t get over the piano black trim on the TRD Pro Tacoma🤦🏻‍♂️

[@mini2nut67]

It was done to match the black roof. Yes, it will scratch super easy.

[@samuelw.3992]

Toyota had something special for many years. With the Tundra it was among the simplest trucks out there versus the other manufacturers. An they were reliable and robust. But now they jumped onto the bandwagon of having fancy ass tech and v6s, big mistake getting rid of the 5.7 v8.

[@quintonulm2435]

I went to a toyota dealer recently and I was really disappointed in the quality of the materials in these new trucks. They make our base model 05 4Runner feel like a luxury car comparatively. I know they don't make them like they used to, but I still can't imagine anyone with half a brain buying one of these things over an older used example.

[@UnDead530]

Sounds like their NDA contract with Toyota has finally ended and finally feels like they can give honest review and feedback of Toyota again. Sounds great!

[@coltonphillips1]

I was horrified when I saw Toyota at the auto show. The interiors felt so cheap and filled with plastic. The only vehicle that felt solid was the Prius.

[@4everInMove]

What pisses me off is that after trial subscription ended, remote start option stopped working. That is low. It is my RAV4 2023. I have a mustang 2020 and remote start working perfectly and no words about the subscription. WTH if you paid for those features when you bought the car...

[@sm65-wj2bc]

That's just taking advantage of people. You paid for the option, it should be permanent. It's a truck, not a timeshare.

[@tim3172]

Is it through your phone or through a keyfob? If it's the former, then you can't expect them to support servers forever for free.

[@billykranston]

I sold my 4runner pro because of issues like anemic engine power and cruise control etc, and I’ve owned two others for the last 20 years. Sadly, they are doing something terribly wrong at Toyota. I replaced it with a Ford.

[@jonlosito2004]

@@billykranston Ford isn't much better. They also have problems. Head gasket problems and pump problems and such.

[@jonlosito2004]

Ford isn't much better. They often have head gasket problems and pump problems and such.

[@billykranston]

@@jonlosito2004 Actually, my Ford is significantly better. Hopefully Toyota will get their act together and do a better job, but for now, I’m sticking with my Ford Explorer St.

[@josephdunbar2105]

I just paid 68k for a 1794 iforce max TRD off road. Sticker was 77k. I also got 32k for my 2020 1794 with 100,000 miles. Seemed like a pretty good deal as I was comparing Ford and GMC similarly equipped trucks. I almost bought the gmc Denali but I was told I couldn’t get the 2k loyalty cash so I said keep your truck! I am a little paranoid and hoping and praying Toyota regains the rep over the motor issues. Otherwise this will be my last. BTW, I only pulled the trigger after Toyota announced they were replacing the entire motor instead of a partial replacement. I think they know if they didn’t, they’re doomed. For the record, it is a premium truck and I’m getting 18.8 mpg mixed driving. Ton of power (more than the V8 in my 2020) and comfortable with lots of technology which I like….car play, cameras all over, adaptive cruise etc. lane departure is no good, actually terrible. I’m looking at possibly getting a recovery hook set up which is very expensive 1500 + bucks installed for the Covert. Really BS that Toyota ditched this normal truck requirement. The fact they ditched the hooks sorta tells me the bean counters are running the company which we all know where that takes a company. Happy to answer any questions

[@dustinclark8946]

I have a 24' Tundra. Failed Alignment at service 1. Toe out. The seat plastic cracked, been back ordered for at least a month. The engine has not blown up yet.

[@andresl6094]

I agree with your guys' take on their subscriptions. People pay top dollar for these trucks and still have to pay for subscriptions is a shame. I find it unreal to pay for a subscription to be able to only lock/unlock doors and turn on the truck (Tundra) via phone. You can't even control the climate settings. Also, it's a bit annoying having to turn on the truck via remote/app then the truck shuts off when unlocking the door/s to get in. This feature sucks during the summer or winter to help keep the temperatures at a preferred level. I feel that power running boards/bed step should be an option for the TRD packages, in particular the 1794 Edition. There should be a button inside the cabin to be able to open/close the tailgate for their price points. Bench seat storage can be better designed (22+ Tundra). If you have children who uses car seats, the access to the bench storage is denied which is frustrating. Ford F150's probably have the best design. Why not come up with a multifunctional tailgate like the rest of the truck manufacturers. Honda Ridgeline probably has the most practical one and esthetically pleasing because you can't see divisions/lines although I would prefer Ram's system, but not everyone would like to see a split on their tailgate.

[@leswilson79]

I bought a 24 TRO offroad and was shocked it didn't have tow hooks i didn't even realize until i bought it

[@bettysmith4527]

And since it will likely be spending lots of time on a tow truck, you really need them!!!

[@dude7838]

“Designed to break” and “Software update” do not bode well for myself….. or 99% of buyers. Well said gents.

[@jmabs5096]

All I wanted was a carry over of the 3.5 v6, 6 speed (with ECU tuned with OTT, not the trash toyta programming that was God aweful) and like 3-6 inches more leg room for passengers and maybe heat seats for every trim level. What do we get? A massive pile of garbage. Oh well its nice knowing my 23 trd off road long bed is actually appreciating a little. I have 25k on it now and I'm tracking it's value and it's right around 37-38k still. Paid 42.5 for it

[@sfdhazmat]

We were looking at the new 4 Runners, we own a 2019 TRD Off-road and love it, the new engine and astronomical price tag is now made us Honda Pilot buyers, shame on Toyota! Toyota literally updated the quality and affordability out of their brand! 😢

[@theresad6990]

You won't regret your decision on the Pilot.

[@CoolioDaMan]

Toyota quality going down???? Take a look at the Land Cruiser…. That’s where Toyota is heading… 1980s Hyundai build quality… and thanks to the crap that Toyota is offering, prior generations of Tacomas and Tundras are skyrocketing….. just wait for the new 4Runner with the factory equipped POS option…

[@oldrango883]

At least factory equipped POS option is not subscription based 😂😂😂

[@setharp]

I saw a new Land Cruiser for the first time yesterday. I had to do a double-take. I thought for a second it was some sort of domestic model. A far cry from the "real" Land Crusiers.

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@oldrango883 Right it comes with the $65k purchase price. What a deal.

[@PeterFusco]

I'll tell you what's going on at Toyota, a blind man could see it. They're making junk and charging an arm and a leg for it. It's that simple. But they're not alone, virtually every other manufacturer is doing the same thing.

[@gregorydavis5210]

If they add a trailering app they will charge per month for it

[@jaredlarson2810]

7:06 Except Teslas service is included for almost everything I want. Then if you want premium it’s only $10. Chevy charges me $40 for my spark app that does almost nothing.

[@blacktiger0095]

I have a 3rd gen tacoma trd off road 4x4 and while in general i love it, it is the last toyota truck im ever going to own. It just passed 80k miles a few weeks ago and its already had to have the transmission replaced, two engine rebuilds since it kept leaking and pushing oil out of the timing cover, starter replaced, transmission reprogrammed a few years ago at the dealership, and the whole 4x4 system replaced too. All the work was covered under the extended warranty and its still 100% stock. Just not a quality built truck, im gonna drive it till the wheels fall off but man its been annoying.

[@Dk-qf8dd]

I am in the process of buying a new “mid-size”.It has come down to a Chevy Colorado ZR2 or the Ford Ranger (Raptor vs XLT4) … both will fit in my garage. I discounted the Tacoma once I sat in it and saw the final cost with the options I wanted. 😳.

[@SasukeUchiha-zu6dw]

Car care nut had a good video on it. I'm my own opinion there is a downside to waiting so long between updates/generations of trucks. It means too much changes at once and more stuff can go wrong. The other issue is the fanboys who ignored common problems of earlier generations and created this mythos around reliability (they were reliable but they had problems like any car maker). But the mythos/legend around it was they didn't have any issues or that those issues didn't matter.

[@Jay-me7gw]

Yup. Current F150's still share some basic parts/components with 2009 trucks. And usually, Ford will release powertrain updates half way through a generational cycle. For example, 2009 was the first year of the 12th gen F150 but the 5.0, 6.2, and 3.5L EB were not introduced until 2011. 2015 was the first year of the 13th gen but then powertrains were updated in 2017/2018. Any given year F150 will likely have a few problems since its either had generational or powertrain updates within the last couple of years, but it wont have ALL the problems.

[@JJF1973]

His video was great. I follow his advice as it were pure gold. As he said “keyboard warriors” are ruining cars. Find a trustworthy, highly trained technician like AMD, and you will not go wrong. Also hybrid trucks are not for better mpg’s. They are for more accessible torque, period.

[@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806]

I do see old F series trucks in Qatar but lot less than GMC/Chevrolet. ALUMINIUM has no real advantage here either..

[@brooksravenscroft8304]

I’m a 21 year Toyota owner who just bought a GMC. I will not go back. Getting rid of the V8 lost me. I actually use my truck in Construction and need the power of the V8. Bye Toyota

[@pryme2013]

I had a 16 tundra and was watching what the tundra was going to have for engine and features and when it was v6 turbo only and looked like a tonka toy with that hilarious giant plastic front end no tow hooks no usable rear bumper all cheap plastic I also went to gm but I went HD because I didn’t want any mpg gimmick stuff either.

[@Kain9407]

The most popular truck in the construction industry is a F-150. You do not need a V8 for construction and the V6 in the new Tundra performs just as well.

[@pryme2013]

@@Kain9407 I’ve yet to see a single new style tundra at any work site and rarely see the older ones either. 99.9% Ford and GM up here in the upper Midwest

[@Kain9407]

@@pryme2013 Has nothing to do with what I said or what I was replying to. I actually said the most common truck used in construction is the F-150. Part of that is because they make cheap stripped down models that Toyota doesn't offer. The topic of conversation though was the supposed need for a V8.

[@EasyMoneySG]

shouldn't you be buying a diesel if the power is the biggest concern? the 6 cyl turbo puts out lots of power, HP and tq. Honestly, i dont think "work trucks" for farming or construction are Toyota's market.

[@cle_roknn3742]

Can't say I'm surprised. I work in forestry, a lot of guys bought Toyotas over the years because of their perceived "reliability" and "resale value". Two Tacomas had catastrophic front wheel bearing failures after about 60,000 to 70,000 miles. The wheels basically fell off the trucks, not just once, twice over the years. Then there was the Tundra V8's which had some sensor buried in the back of the motor that went bad on three different trucks. Each time it was within the warranty period, but it requires the engine to get pulled out and they had to wait for parts, which in one case was over 10 days, not including the labor time. Lastly, their "resale value" is higher, but the dealers would never budge on the price, which means you basically financed that "value" and it actually cost more than that resale value was worth. Now, I'm not saying that every other truck has been perfect, GM V8's like to eat valve terrains. Nissan fit and finish is basically abysmal and their diesel HD one of the guys had was an absolute disaster. Had one F-150 blow an engine and another ate multiple rear-ends for some unknown reason, all this under 100,000 miles in all cases. The latest was a GMC that had a turbomax grenade with less than 10,000 miles on it. So every brand has its issues and Toyota does too, they are no better or worse, and lately their failures have been rather apparent...

[@TheOzthewiz]

The GM V8s are reliable, IF you DELETE the AFM/DFM!!

[@tomposti6361]

I was wondering the other day. Companies build gas engine vehicles for how long now? 120 years? Still haven't figured out how to build it right? Consumer getting skinned over and over and over .......

[@ReedRichardson-wo7jc]

The Ford raptor Ranger is superior to any midsize truck right now

[@gamebredduramax71]

Hopefully people stick to their principles and don’t buy the junk they put out and put a big hurtin on the companies, the only problem with that is the government will just turn around and use our money I.e tax dollars to bail them out if they do fail for making poor business decisions, also something you or I won’t get if we run our businesses to the ground for poor decision making

[@arsyadidris6349]

True for american companies… but dont expect the US gov to bail out the japanese companies, despite having alot of factories in the US. Which, btw, is one reason why Toyota is in so much debt. That late2000s crisis did a number on toyota for their finances. Ofcourse… a few other major things happened to toyota afterwards that kept piling their debt.

[@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806]

I read somewhere that Toyota was supposed to buy GMC/Chevrolet during the financial crisis....but that did not happen. Toyota also had issues at the time, and the first thing they would have done is cut the HD models of all types and decreased towing capacity, heightened costs....that would have changed everything and competitiveness would have gone down. Still, would be pathetic in the long run.

[@arsyadidris6349]

@@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806 owh aloooooooot of things happened to toyota. Shall i list: 1) financial crisis of the late2000s, obviously everyone took a massive hit here, toyota even more so since no way was the US gov gonna bail a “foreign” company. 2) tohoku earthquake and tsunami, and fukushima nuclear meltdown of 2011. I dont have to tell how much this effed up japan in terms human loss, infra loss, n financial loss. This hit every company based in japan. 3) 2013 was the year they launched their TNGA campaign. 4) 2017 was the year they launched their Dynamic Force campaign 5) 2020 covid happened So yeah… one financial uppercut after another for toyota in the past 15 or so years.

[@ryancummins9749]

Way too expensive. No more V6 option on the Tacoma

[@warbuzzard7167]

You "NO MOAR V6!"guys realize that YOU did this to the car market, right? It's you voting for government that has placed crazy environmental corporate average fuel economy standards on all manufacturers, hence "hybrids" and high-pressure turbos on small-displacement engines.

[@Jay-me7gw]

Toyota’s iForce Max hybrid seems to be poor execution in comparison to Ford’s Powerboost. The Powerboost can achieve both performance and efficiency increases with the Powerboost while also offering 7.2kw.

[@shawnriddle3018]

That is why you guys are my number one auto channel. You guys do real world reviews. Making are automotive products better for the consumer. I've seen Fords castistroughic failers towing. Could have gotten killed on the side of the road. Yout new heat 🥵 🔥 testing has shown me both G.M.and Fords ratings for towing ( spring dust). Before J standards and better your awesome channel. You all have helped me decide on my truck. I found out about my 2015 AEV Prospector. Saw it on your channel and had to have it. Thank you guys and congrats on all your success. I luv ❤️ my Ram Trucks. Best friend still rocking my old 2003 Hemi.

[@P0rtalgate]

I bought a new truck this summer and after this gong show going on at Toyota with the truck issues along with the corolla gr warranty issues it has made me completely lost faith in them. Along with the INSANE PRICE they want the new tacomas, ended up buying a Colorado ZR2 instead much cheaper for the spec of tacoma I woulda wanted along with them not disintegrating.

[@GTOGregory]

Your front differential should not have broken. Something is weak! Oh, and subscription services! My new 85K Silverado HD has only partially operating OnStar. I never got to enjoy the free portion of any service because they never worked. OnStar couldn't fix it, but they still charged me monthly.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

You should see the quality control issues with my 24 sequoia. The hybrid system sucks. Too much plastic that rattles for a 82 grand vehicle.

[@Ducs4life]

Your 3rd row is broken also.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

@@Ducs4life don’t even get me started on that mess.

[@is6566]

What’s wrong with the hybrid system specifically? Every review loves it on and off road.

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

@@is6566it doesn’t save on gas. It doesn’t add any extra power. It’s very clunky to the point that it feels like the transmission is going to drop. Then the 3rd row seats sit on top of the battery. I’ll never buy a hybrid system again. Especially when it adds extra costs to renew my registration and insurance.

[@Jay-me7gw]

I would have been a lot more interested in the Sequoia if it had a non-hybrid option and if it had kept the full-time 4wd system that it had since in debuted 2001

[@ProCoach2373]

I walked a Toyota lot yesterday and left thinking the quality went down the drain. The paint on many of the trucks looked like spray paint and plastic trim was not seated well or warped on brand new units. I've spent the last nearly 15 years in two Tundras, but I don't see that continuing based on what I see.

[@noseboop4354]

It's a sinking ship ever since Akio got ousted and replaced by a much greedier CEO and board members. Go find greener pastures.

[@DH-mf2lv]

Great show guys. Merry Christmas!

[@cbgny23]

I can't stand when Mike Swears says, "We've spoken to our customers and they don't necessarily want recovery hooks." Dude, who TF are you talking to and when they hell has Toyota USA ever reached out other their customers and actually listened to us?! It's alllllll to do with safety compliance and fuel economy. They don't give a F about "our customers" post-sale.

[@tonymason2875]

In reference to the hybrid trucks not getting better gas mileage, I can attest to that. I, happily, just bought an Off-road hybrid with the expectation that I'd be getting good mpg's, for a truck that is. That's really the whole reason I waited to buy my first truck ever and my first Toyota for that matter. Well, the best I'm getting around town is 16mpg and that's in ECO mode. I pretty sure I could have bought a regular gas engine truck and realized about the same mpg. I'm already thinking about trading it in for something else just because I'm disappointed. I'm not going to yet, but the fact that after only 2 weeks of ownership I'm already thinking about it, isn't good. Now Roman and Adrea are talking about a potential recall for transmission issues. LOL. Oh Man. We'll see how it goes.

[@josephdunbar2105]

I’m at 3000 miles on a 1794 iforce max. I’m not beating on it, 75-85 on highways, some traffic jams around and probably 700 of those miles in the city. Getting 18.8. Haven’t reset the mpg data. My 2020 1794 got 15 mpg mixed. Both 4WD. I don’t tow and both have tonneau covers.

[@DemonCinema]

My 2024 Tacoma just errored out a week ago. All my speakers went out a week before that. Leaving the grocery store parking lot, didn’t do anything out of the ordinary, BOOM check engine light and several others popped on. No traction, can’t get it over 20mph. Luckily it was rush hour traffic and I wasn’t going any faster than 20 all the way home

[@notdeadyet717]

I just got out of a 2022 Toyota Tacoma (35k miles) that got totaled out due to a hospitals valet parking my truck in a flood zone during a hurricane while I had a child being born. Just bought a used 2022 Ram 1500 Big Horn with 45k miles in perfect condition for significantly less than what my Tacoma cost me when i purchased it new. Not only do I get slightly better fuel economy, I also get a significant increase in space, towing power, bed size, just about everything is better. The Ram just rides and feels so much better. The cabin is solid and silent. I was literally blown away at the step up in quality. The reason I bought the Tacoma was for their reliability and resale value. It seems toyota is losing that reputation and without that there is no reason what so ever to even look Toyota's way when purchasing a truck. It's sad to see. I thought I was happy with my Tacoma but damn do I LOVE my Ram.

[@sratz53]

Props to the TFL Team here to critique Toyota and call them out on some of their shortcomings. While Roman has been accused of being a Toyota fanboy, it had to be hard to throw so much salt at Toyota. This is the sign of a fair and balanced journalist. Props yall

[@stephenpuccio8373]

What’s going on is their current CEO is not staying true to what Toyota is supposed to be.