I’ve also heard that Ram and Cummins made a mutual decision to no longer chase power numbers with other manufacturers and focus more on the engines exhaust brake, efficiency, durability and adaptability. I think that’s very smart. I hope it’s all true.
@JoshAllenberg3 ай бұрын
If true, that would be great. Who actually pulls 40k lbs with these new pickups? Nobody I've ever seen, and I always defend buying for potential capability instead of necessity.
@randomoinkbomb3 ай бұрын
@@JoshAllenberg Farmers/ranchers and hot shot guys tend to pull numbers that high and they are partially the target audience. With oilfield and other industrial settings, most guys can only load everything up to 26k max but the bigger number is kinda reassureance that the truck can be abused harder
@JoshAllenberg3 ай бұрын
@@randomoinkbomb most of the time that I've seen hotshotters or farmers towing super heavy, they go for a 4500 or 5500. Idk if the 3500s having higher ratings will cause them to downgrade their purchases, but I'm sure something other than tow rating will come into consideration
@NoName-c4y7h3 ай бұрын
@@JoshAllenberg The 5500 gets lower rated power, for longer lifespan. The 5500 has dual tanks, heavy duty frame, payload of over 12k lbs, etc..
3 ай бұрын
May have something to do with not being able to meet emission specifications at higher power levels but from a marketing point of view the longevity claim sounds good.
@Cloud300003 ай бұрын
I’ll trade a 1,200 ft-lb engine for a 700 ft-lb 3-million mile engine any day.
@Sambobthetech3 ай бұрын
Facts, the Cummins 12 and 24 valve is king of longevity
@ShersGarage3 ай бұрын
On Medium Duty trucks engines are derated from the factory. Ford gives them 250k mile engine warranty.
@fl_atv_riders44553 ай бұрын
The HP/tq isn't what's killing the diesel engines today, it's the emissions systems.
@fl_atv_riders44553 ай бұрын
@ShersGarage Ford does not have a 250,000 mile engine warranty, it's 100,000 miles.
@96kylar3 ай бұрын
Same. All I want is reliable. Period.
@shuttlepilot_3 ай бұрын
New truck owners today are either , “my truck is a luxury cellphone lounge” or “ my truck will pull a house to the Eisenhower Tunnel doing 75 mph and never downshift”. You’ll find both owners in the service area at the dealer.
@1234567890ZETA3 ай бұрын
True, because if your ego is bigger than your personality, you're gonna but the one model with all the bells and whistles.
@RossMalagarie3 ай бұрын
I want to be a new truck owner in a few years and want to be "the mid teir midsized truck owner". $45K for a Colorado Trail Boss with most options for mid range offroading and towing 6K ibs toy hauler
@scottcampbell25853 ай бұрын
I see these dimwits all the time 90!mph dragging a boat or camper with bicycle tires and wonder what happened after the crash. Florida and South Carolina just made those lifted pickup illegal .
@scottcampbell25853 ай бұрын
@@RossMalagarie Toyota tacoma if you’re looking for that off grid or overland rig.
@hummyhero14843 ай бұрын
Lol😂
@knowone62143 ай бұрын
does it matter when the average working man can't afford the overpriced computers on wheels.....that you can't even work on ???
@DarkHorse082 ай бұрын
Base price starts at $42,000.
@blooemu38232 ай бұрын
Even my 2007 Duramax has more computers than I'm happy with. One bad ground and the whole thing wants to go down
@Dawson-dl5bz2 ай бұрын
@@DarkHorse08the average income cant afford a 40k$ vehicle though.
@DarkHorse082 ай бұрын
@@Dawson-dl5bz The average person does not need a 1 ton pickup truck…
@MulletDestructurАй бұрын
@@Dawson-dl5bzthe average person who actually needs a ¾ or 1 ton pickup has a salary that CAN afford $42k though.
@myz06rocks3 ай бұрын
a P-Pump swapped 24 valve with a 4 door cab and a 6 speed manual... one can only dream
@A1CanvasUpholstering3 ай бұрын
You can P-Pump a 6.7 😉
@davidreynolds7313 ай бұрын
@@A1CanvasUpholsteringyes
@A1CanvasUpholstering3 ай бұрын
@davidreynolds731 That was a statement😁
@Natedoc8082 ай бұрын
Like my ‘03
@Toknowtheeventofgod-cw8hw2 ай бұрын
AMEN...
@Anthony12valve440RB3 ай бұрын
Ill still drive my 1st gen cummins with a nv5600 6 speed its simple , reliable and enjoy that old mechanical cummins. They should bring the manuals back.
@TheKlamminator3 ай бұрын
Please bring manual transmissions back 🙏 simpler and more reliable
@noobasdfjkl3 ай бұрын
They should absolutely bring the manuals back, as long as you're willing to put up the 10s of millions of dollars to develop one suitable for this application.
@TheTerribleGamer3 ай бұрын
not cost effective enough. bean counters look at cost to develop and how many are sold.
@CabanonGuitarHero3 ай бұрын
@@noobasdfjkl they had one up 2018 and it was good enough. just put it back on the market for 3 years and see the sales. if it sales enough, keep it in the lineup, if it don't, then yeah call it a day.
@noobasdfjkl3 ай бұрын
@@CabanonGuitarHero Lol, max torque rating for that manual was 610lb-ft. Mercedes doesn't even make that gearbox anymore. Again, are you willing to put up the millions of dollars so Dodge can buy the rights to it, build a manufacturing facility, and re-engineer the current trucks to accept this transmission? I thought not.
@AR-Roons3 ай бұрын
Might as well just throw an ISX15 in there and call it good.
@persistentwind3 ай бұрын
But where would you put the truck?
@RyleyVelichka3 ай бұрын
Isx is dogshit newer x15 or older n14
@AR-Roons3 ай бұрын
@@RyleyVelichka haha!! At least I didn’t say the 5.0 Cummins! N14 now that would be amazing
@moparjr893 ай бұрын
@@RyleyVelichkax15 is just as bad i had one eat a cam at 300k
@CryEvenHarder3 ай бұрын
@@RyleyVelichka until you delete the emissions and def she’s a solid motor
@db472033 ай бұрын
I build these engines for a living. It's so much fun seeing these new trucks and others that I've likely had a hand in building the engine.
@deltafreshrelics16603 ай бұрын
Been a diesel tech at master level for 20 years. I can’t believe people keep falling for these new trucks. I must have done something wrong in life. I can’t buy a +$100k dollar truck, delete it, and put it on marketplace next year. I mean I got rent and kids and insurance to pay for. Good thing I’m content not racing mustangs in my 3500hd that never had a trailer on it or even locked in 4x4. I somehow just keep making it through life with my 305 Chevy half ton and my 6.5 suburban. Crazy. Oh btw, you can buy a Mack MD for the price of a pickup. 😂
@josephsamsor16983 ай бұрын
A new diesel truck starts around 50k which isn’t bad. Most people just want options.
@deltafreshrelics16603 ай бұрын
@@josephsamsor1698 yeah maybe a single cab 2500 2wd. Don’t see many of those. I see mostly 2500 or 3500 dually with pretty loaded out trim. So most trucks sold I would bet are in the 80k range on up to 99k for a limited. You can get a 2024 Mack MD6 for 92k up to about 120k depending on application. My point is that these pickups are not worth what they charge. Not even close.
@matthewm39123 ай бұрын
I don't want a new diesel unless it has the emission system removed.
@alexandersheppard19973 ай бұрын
Then you just won’t have a new diesel because emissions requirements aren’t going away anytime soon
@redjonnyboy003 ай бұрын
Will never happen
@Marklin153 ай бұрын
Toyota still builds 70 series Land Cruisers with a mechanical injection naturally aspirated Diesel in markets with lax emissions standards
@erikkovacs30973 ай бұрын
And I don't want a new gasoline car unless it's carburated.
@jacobeldredge8033 ай бұрын
Funnily enough, the emissions system is probably the only thing my dad hasnt had a problem with on his 21 f250. 😂
@itgoesfast27223 ай бұрын
Hey guys, could you do us a favor and ask the ZF engineers what they recommend for fluid services on their transmissions.. mopar likes to say “lifetime” fluid which anyone with a brain knows there is no such thing. This is a highly debated topic and using your contacts at ZF it would be great to do a video on this topic. I would really appreciate a response …. Thanks.
@16912outdoors3 ай бұрын
Zf does recommend fluid changes ram doesn’t because rams life is 60k miles then they don’t care
@itgoesfast27223 ай бұрын
@@16912outdoors lot of truth to that statement. As long as it gets past warranty that’s their definition of lifetime… LOL
@tsd560ti63 ай бұрын
I would look through BMW forums, because the ZF 8HP is used in every RWD/AWD application since >10 years. There is an official fluid called "ZF Lifeguard Fluid 8" available in Germany, dont know about your location.
@gustavomercado15993 ай бұрын
Depends on the type of driving you do. Maintenance frequency is stated in the owners manual
@itgoesfast27223 ай бұрын
@@tsd560ti6 thanks for the advice. That’s a great idea.
@arbiter13 ай бұрын
are they gonna fix the grid heater problem or leave that ticking timebomb there?
@bobbywalter53203 ай бұрын
A great question.
@rcguymike2 ай бұрын
They should do a colab with Banks like the Suburbans back in the day
@jeffhall768Ай бұрын
There's already cheap fixes for that. It's not like a cp4 😂
@mattbergquist41393 ай бұрын
In the 6 seater crew cab configuration, Ram needs to figure out foot and shin/knee space on the front middle seat. I just got a new work truck and after realizing neither my feet nor my wife’s feet (she has small feet) fit between the dash and the little tray below the front of the seat and our shins/knees were right up against the infotainment system, I passed over the Ram and went with a different brand. I know that might seem small and knit picky but I feel like if you need 6 seats in a crew cab like we do with 4 kids, you want them all to be useable and comfortable without putting your feet and legs in super awkward positions, even if that front middle seat is hard to make very comfortable. I hope they improve this on the next gen as I know it’s better in the competing brands. I think the ZF 8 speed will be a great option to be paired with the Cummins and look forward to hearing how that pairing works in the real world in future tests and videos.
@fasttoyo3 ай бұрын
we went with a Ford for the same reason. Another thing Ram has to improve on other than leg room is adding a 3 point seatbelt for that seat. Ford and GM have a 3 point while the Ram still uses a manual adjusting lap belt from the 1960s.
@richarda9962 ай бұрын
If the EPA and the DOT would be realistic and eliminate most of the federal regulations, we could have decent equipment that gets good fuel mileage and towing capacity.
@rottincotton2 ай бұрын
The EPA and the GOV. r both stupid, when it comes too diesel,s
@HughButler-lb6zsАй бұрын
Delete it.
@Toby_Flenderson_19823 ай бұрын
Diesel electric is THE preferred hybrid!! Locomotives have been doing this for a long time. Quite the marketing potential as well.
@TheKlamminator3 ай бұрын
I'm 100% more interested in this than any EV
@gregholloway26563 ай бұрын
Checkout Edison Motors, if you aren’t aware of them.
@Dive-Bar-Casanova3 ай бұрын
Allison is testing these now at the GM proving grounds. 2 speed elect motors for even more range. They will be colossal. Won't even need diesel, gas will recharge it all just fine.
@alexsmba3 ай бұрын
Could be done with a 3-4L I-6 diesel generator. That would be pretty cool. Ramcharger 3500?
@Toby_Flenderson_19823 ай бұрын
Yea, I realized this isn't quite the same thing. A diesel electric motor is actually using a diesel generator to power an electric motor. Anyway, tinkering with these technologies is super cool, but will inevitably become waaaay outside of most folks' price range!
@wildburro3 ай бұрын
More power means nothing. Fix the previous issues and make them more reliable.
@blythkd90172 ай бұрын
Somebody is still going to have to explain to me how more and more gears make better fuel mileage when cruising at highway speed. Seems like it all comes down to the final drive ratio and parasitic power loss through the geartrain. I typically go up through the gears then stay in high gear for hours. The 7 or 9 lower gears, depending on which transmission, will help me make more mileage? Whatever. If the transmission wastes less power in it's gears, clutches, etc., now that makes some sense. But that has nothing to do with the number of gears available. I have a 6 speed currently and am perfectly satisfied with 6 speeds. Encouraging to see that Ram didn't jump on the 10spd bandwagon just because everyone else did.
@John__Wayne3 ай бұрын
I’d be happy with a 160 hp Cummins and a manual transmission. It would be nice if truck manufacturers would make a “work truck” option along with their soccer dad options.
@JD-yx7be2 ай бұрын
the 2.8L cummins makes 180hp
@AndrewGlenn3 ай бұрын
They should bring the manual back!
@techs1smh133 ай бұрын
Not in so ca traffic.
@Kl0rk013 ай бұрын
No one bought them. That's why they are no longer offered.
@hellkitty10143 ай бұрын
Used G56 Rams are going crazy on value because they're hard to find.
@johnregal50983 ай бұрын
@@Kl0rk01 I have the 2008 Ram 4500 dump with the 6-speed manual. Automatics suck period. Then need to offer an Eaton 7 or 8 speed.
@toulee80513 ай бұрын
Swap in 6 spd yourself
@rhod82013 ай бұрын
I’m not a fan of all these higher speed transmissions. I bought a 2024 Chevrolet 2500 gas with the 10 speed Allison BRANDED transmission. Kept it 1 year and had too many issues. Was in the shop 3 times for 29 days. Got rid of it last week. 6 speeds are plenty in my opinion.
@adampetten10093 ай бұрын
Trending in the right direction. Fix flaws in Cummins, replace the 68. And for all of us we need the DT cab.
@adampetten10093 ай бұрын
issues needed to be fixed inexcusably 1. Grid Heater bolt 2. hydro lifters the reason theres a standard OP is because the 68 can't handle any power at all. its the SAME engine, just tenued. nothing to do with wanting or needing more power in a HO version. Ram should have got rid of the 68RFE and Aisin in 2019 and went with the ZF like the Hemi HD did. absolutely ridiculous it took this long to get a decent trans.
@jackbarry94692 ай бұрын
My brother has the 68rfe 210k miles no issues so far mild tune 400 hp to wheel tow camper, cow trailer, atvs, and drive to work, not as much off road or severe duty as some of our other cummins but the trucks with manuals have needed clutches every few years and so have been more expensive than the 68rfe so in our fleet right now 3 trucks at 200k miles, the 68rfe lowest issues of the 3 @@adampetten1009
@JLCmike40143 ай бұрын
All of the big 3 really need to bring back a 5 or 6 speed manual transmission. These automatics are getting way too complex.
@kennethobando57553 ай бұрын
Never will make a comeback - the clutch and transmission yo hold that torque will have a heavy clutch and not be a nice smooth, quite transmission- features a automatic has. Plus not enough demand for a manual transmission.
@rebel043433 ай бұрын
@@kennethobando5755 disappointing but absolutely all true. Hardley any demand at all. Thats why my newest truck is a 2000.
@justinlee26423 ай бұрын
No demand because there isnt one 😂😂 🤡🤡🤡@@kennethobando5755
@wyo_garage203 ай бұрын
The autos are superior in nearly every way
@buckhorncortez3 ай бұрын
The sell rate on manual transmissions, when they were available, was UNDER 1%. So, you think a manufacturer should waste money on an extremely low-volume option? Why?
@frumpyamerican92363 ай бұрын
Lower HP, fewer gears, 6-8 is ideal. Remember the KISS method. That’s what makes things last.
@user-mh5qg5jb7d2 ай бұрын
Any company who "keeps it simple" won't be in business for much longer in such a highly competitive market.
@zackhaycraft81592 ай бұрын
@@user-mh5qg5jb7dyou realize ram heavy duty trucks are more popular for heavy duty work
@edwardpate61283 ай бұрын
Sure makes my old 2001 Ram Cummins seem tame with 235 HP and 460 lb/ft of torque. But never any issues with it when I sold it with 250K miles. My current truck a 2022 GMC Crew Cab with the 3.0 LM2 Duramax and I absolutely love that engine.
@AR-Roons3 ай бұрын
@@edwardpate6128 I went from a Cummins to a Hemi and I wanna go back to diesel. Those little LM2’s are quite the engine! I wish Dodge would have offered a better diesel option in their 1/2 tons. The ecodiesel and hockey puck shifter has completely turned me away
@slimchancejw2 ай бұрын
Love my lm2 but hate the def and electronics! It’s been in the shop about 4 times in 35,000 miles! 2 for def and 2 for electronic brakes. The def exhaust had a bracket that cut into the main wire harness or grounds and now it’s dangerous! Brakes went out completely doing 60mph 100yards before an intersection with red lights, if my wife was driving someone would’ve died
@jeffhall768Ай бұрын
Those little diesels are terrible engines. Get rid of it before it hits 100k. They have serious design flaws.
@454budman7 күн бұрын
@@jeffhall768 literally every engine has design flaws lol
@rvarsigfusson61633 ай бұрын
This ZF 8HP automatic transmission is a gold nugget..... It`s used in Range Rover, VW Amarok, Jaguar and almost all BMW..... Not sure about Rolls Royce but I guess too. With a power output is really nice then you can have a lot of extra on the work truck.
@wyo_garage203 ай бұрын
Different transmission. Chrysler has been using the ZF since what, 2012? That’s similar to what is used in everything you mentioned. A decade plus in use. This is entirely different.
@Tallnerdyguy3 ай бұрын
Zf8hp is also in jeep, but the zf870 is thr newer iteration
@moparjr893 ай бұрын
@@Tallnerdyguyjeep is a part of chrysler genius😂😂😂
@rvarsigfusson61633 ай бұрын
@@wyo_garage20 Okay, new for me..... thanks
@rvarsigfusson61633 ай бұрын
@@Tallnerdyguy Okay, new for me..... thanks But that is only for the gasoline engine, like V8!!..... There is a Chrysler automatic in the diesel jeep at least the older one.
@omahaomaha86943 ай бұрын
Let’s just stick with diesel and stay away from green energy wokeness
@aw96803 ай бұрын
ZF commented a long time ago that 9 or 10 speed transmissions were diminishing returns.
@travispower26833 ай бұрын
Agree 100 percent. I rented a 2022 F350 to tow a large fifth wheel toy hauler and honestly the ten speed is stupid. Just shifts too much.
@ericl49043 ай бұрын
On the Ford F450 we blew the first gear 3 times in the first 2 years we owned it. FYI it was bought brand new and it was converted to a tow truck by Ford
@ericbrunius71732 ай бұрын
More gear selections is intended to keep the engine in its optimal power/torque range. With the broad range of power and torque these things are producing, I have to agree that it’s pointless.
@djmurria2 ай бұрын
@@travispower2683i can see that with a diesel since they have a much broader power range vs a gas motor. Our shop truck is a gas f250 with a 10 speed it's never out of the power range can mash and it just goes. If u know your about to pass give it a quick stab to make it down shift check your mirrors and go has already dropped from 10 to like 5th.
@CRyan552 ай бұрын
@@travispower2683That’s a weird take… Every 6 speed truck I’ve owned constantly hunted for gears when towing heavy, especially on hills. My 10 speed 250 doesn’t give a shit, and will hold 10th gear fine on cruise control with a 6 ton skid steer behind it.
@711slimshawny3 ай бұрын
Cummins don't need 10 speeds with where the torque curve is. V8s like more gears since they rev higher.
@ALMX5DP3 ай бұрын
I think it's still beneficial from an emissions and fuel economy standpoint. Diesels have a smaller rpm band to work with, and while they can technically pull fine almost anywhere within that, having finer control can help out.
@justin_steen3 ай бұрын
With that logic semis don’t need 18 speeds
@allentechpt90263 ай бұрын
@@ALMX5DP Like with electric motors, you don't necessary gain more control with more gears. Every time a transmission shifts, you create slip and loads and brief power skip that robs efficient power delivery. Beyond that, you also add complexity and weight. At some point, more gears just become diminished returns. And a small power band is exactly why you don't want more gears. The Cummins engine revs up to 3,000-ish RPM, but the meat of Cummins power band is even narrower, coming in at 1,600 RPM and dropping off at about 2,400 RPM. That's an 800 RPM window! How many gears can make you use of an 800 RPM?? This is not a Honda engine that revs to 9,000 RPM and where the peak of the power curve is in a completely different spot from the peak of the efficiency curve. A Cummins 6.7 is basically a low RPM tractor engine. It's designed to lug and work at steady load and low RPM. It does not need many gears to maintain peak efficiency.
@jacobeldredge8033 ай бұрын
@@justin_steen semi also only has like 1000 rpm gap from idle to redline, and are rated for twice the weight of the ram, and commonly have a higher gearing in the axles.
@allentechpt90263 ай бұрын
@@justin_steen That's not using the same logic. Semis might have plenty of low-end torque to use, but they also haul 80,000 pounds and have the aerodynamics of a house. They would make use of more ratios purely because they have more work to do. If you put a semi engine in your minivan, then you wouldn't need 18 speeds.
@mcwilliamsda3 ай бұрын
Watching a lot of your towing vehicles in have noticed that a lot of trucks with 10 speed transmissions do not perform well on the downhill portion when your are trying to rely on engine braking to maintain your speed. At will be interesting to see how this engine and tranny performs on the downhill.
@ALMX5DP3 ай бұрын
I think that's mostly because they dont manually shift it. I get their rationale for seeing differences in stock programming, but at the same time anyone towing should be familiar with manual control and the benefits it has for towing.
@JsGarage3 ай бұрын
I don’t think this has been true on the diesels with exhaust brakes. TfL often doesn’t use cruise or manual shifting either which would often solve the issue where present.
@garysarratt13 ай бұрын
They all perform “well”, better than a few years ago for sure, and some are better than others.
@scottcampbell25853 ай бұрын
Well the 68 rfe was designed for a minivan. That’s probably why you see this dimwits stuck along the freeway with burned up transmissions. Towing weight for a passenger vehicle is not good. Never designed for it.
@hihaveaniceday93863 ай бұрын
Ive found that even in a 2016 silverado 2500 with the duramax down, shifting the transmission helps tremendously with the exhaust brake
@ml98673 ай бұрын
They need a Mega Cab with an 8 foot box!!!
@Cloud300003 ай бұрын
No, they need a proline van with an extra 8 foot bed added to the end; the perfect vehicle.
@rapmeister10003 ай бұрын
You’d never fit one in a parking space.
@Justthemow3 ай бұрын
@@rapmeister1000people who drive a mega cab don’t mind parking out in the boonies and taking up two spaces to get a bigger bed we all want a bigger bed on that truck and I always park way out anyway because the truck is already hard to park and I’ve had a mega cab since 2008 I daily drive
@rapmeister10003 ай бұрын
@@Justthemow I own a 2015 Mega Cab. It sticks out of regular parking spaces as is. There isn’t always 2 parking spaces to take up, & in some places they will ticket and tow you for doing so. There are garages I have to park in where one with an 8’ bed would not fit, like when I go to the VA hospital. So no, we all don’t want the longer bed. What I see as the better option, would be a mid gate.
@johnargumaniz91793 ай бұрын
A mega cab long bed is actually too long for a standard vehicle. It falls into the commercial category so it’s a bit complicated.
@vicranger68763 ай бұрын
I wonder if either of these guys ever worked for a living
@stronglikebull2994Ай бұрын
There is no way anyone would buy a new Ram 2500 if the cab and bed is still the same as the one from 2010. It needs to be updated.
@16912outdoors3 ай бұрын
My 2022 ram is the first and last ram I ever own. Its a complete pile of s**t
@melissasmess27733 ай бұрын
I'm keeping my 1995 12 valve, it's not very fast, economical or a good automatic transmission but it doesn't give me problems. Had it 25 years now.
@slidewide19993 ай бұрын
What’s wrong with it? I have a 22 2500 with 20k and 5k towing 12000 pounds, it’s on 35’s and has been flawless.
@16912outdoors3 ай бұрын
@@slidewide1999 engine has no power I had a Hyundai Santa cruz pull away from me on the highway and I had the pedal to the floor, the transmission is shot won’t shift below 3rd gear until I’m completely stopped and try to get going it will rev up to 2500 rpm just sit there for 2-3 seconds then slam into first, the whole front end is shot both struts blown by 65k miles I never blew a strut or shock in my life, tailgate won’t open it just makes a weird noise and won’t open, the 12” screen is black half the time and doesn’t work, my phone barely connects to the truck, it used 6 gallons of antifreeze since new 2 dealers couldn’t find what’s going on with it, throttle response is horrible takes 3-4 seconds of pushing pedal for the truck to respond, e torque is shot when truck shuts off at a light and turns on to go it bumps truck forward then truck falls flat on its face and stops while engine revs and then It goes
@rdallas81Ай бұрын
@@16912outdoorsI have a 2004 Hemi. 310,000 miles. No engine lights on, no ticks, no clunks. Runs and drives every day. Sorry to hear that about your truck
@jdtravelers13613 ай бұрын
I currently have the ZF in a 2500 w/6.4 Hemi and love the tranny vs the RFE. In 2025/26 I will be looking to get a 5500/550 and will not be looking at diesel (been there done that, not again). Is there any info on the CA offerings for gas? I am hoping that RAM offers the Cummins gasoline engine as an option. I am a RAM boy from way back and it would be sad to eliminate RAM from consideration.
@ChargerusPrime5 сағат бұрын
I am REALLY hopeful about these new transmissions. Ive been reading about them on the ZF website. They have a built in controller so theoretically you can utilize this trans with ANY of the electronically controlled transmission trucks especially the 3rd and 4th gens. I have a 2006 ram 3500 and flat out, i NEED this transmission for my truck. Ill never have to get rid of the damn thing nor will i ever have to worry about it crapping out on me.
@7.3PSDA23 ай бұрын
and this is why i drive my 96 f350 7.3... it runs drives does everything i need its cheap.
@rdallas81Ай бұрын
Great truck!
@7.3PSDA2Ай бұрын
@@rdallas81 Yep love it.
@jimeckenrode12713 ай бұрын
As I recall ZF made transmission for Chrysler in 1960, They made a 4 spd trans for the Chrysler 300 F.
@user-pgchargerse713 ай бұрын
That transmission came from Pont-a-Mousan, a French company. Only a handful of 300Fs were made with that tranny.
@IMiss_The90s3 ай бұрын
Limited will be 150k Canadian Probably
@brycegreen89003 ай бұрын
Already that much... Looked at one, 122k before taxes... So add about 15k to that, then finance it... 160k truck all day.
@AussieDazza3 ай бұрын
The current model 2500/3500 Laramie is around $191 000 Aus in Australia .
@Weak_juan3 ай бұрын
Unless you own a successful roofing company, who's dropping 160k?
@josephsherrell62353 ай бұрын
Am looking at ZF transmission right now lol thy have built transmissions for years for tractors
@CrimeVid3 ай бұрын
ZF have been making reliable transmissions for all sorts of vehicles in Europe for donkeys years, tractors, lorries,vans,cars , there's some with ZF's in there.
@cantstopwontstop9763 ай бұрын
Just bring back the manual transmission!!!
@JamesHoots2 ай бұрын
Just lock out your gears
@jeffhall768Ай бұрын
@@JamesHootsnot the same plus they aren't as durable or as cheap to fix as manuals. A new clutch vs a Trans rebuild is nice
@chiefkikyerass71882 ай бұрын
The issue is. Finding axles and transmissions to hold up to 1200 Lb # torque, I know when Cummins for came our and thru the early 2000's, Dana's and any auto couldn't hold up, and the engines were purposely DE-TUNED
@_DST0NE_3 ай бұрын
Gimme that Powerline!!!!!
@M_dot2023 ай бұрын
Will the average recreational tower realize a difference between 1000lb-ft and 1200lb-ft towing their 8k TT? I doubt it.
@mckou15473 ай бұрын
CDJR is circling the drain. Stellantis is killing their North American car lines.
@huntsimple95273 ай бұрын
Their pricing strategy is for sure unsustainable.
@mikesnifferpippets37332 ай бұрын
About the cab updates: I’ve read that the HD trucks with get an update to the front and rear to emulate the 1500 truck, hence the camo in the pics. I’ve seen a few running around here in proximity to the Chelsea proving grounds.
@JAYFEATHERBOONDOCKS3 ай бұрын
When is the 2025 Ram 1500 Hurricane Ike Gauntlet videos coming?
@TFLtruck3 ай бұрын
We published a Hurricane Ike on the 2025 Ram 1500 Rebel.
@Jay-me7gw3 ай бұрын
They did it at the begining of june and its coolant temp hit 249*F on a 59*F day. They never posted it on their website, just KZbin.
@Jay-me7gw3 ай бұрын
@@TFLtruck Why didnt you ever post that video on your website?
@katiejameson3 ай бұрын
Boy how times have changed, I remember the first time the HO Cummins was available, in 2001, you could only get it with the NV5600 and that was 2500 or 3500
@monoped_adventures3 ай бұрын
I had a 2001 with the HO and NV5600. What a great truck it was. Sold it, and it's still on the road with about 480000km on it now
@MoparGuy-x1rАй бұрын
My dad's first Cummins was a white 2001 3500 HO Cummins with a nv4500. 5 speed not the six. Had a 3.91 lsd 4x4 quad cab. But what an impression it left on the whole family. We all have mopars and Cummins trucks thanks to my parents. That truck felt so nimble and athletic. And so incredibly fast.
@MasonAryMagicАй бұрын
@@MoparGuy-x1r HO only came with the 6-speed.
@Parker531513 ай бұрын
Will there also be an option for a self-lifting cab in order to reduce maintenance and repair costs?
@MilanPalushaj-uh3df3 ай бұрын
Great video as always. I truly believe that heavy duty trucks don’t need more than eight speed transmission.
@billjordan36393 ай бұрын
I hope that they decide on a 290 Cummins with a 5X4 transmission.
@wisco12253 ай бұрын
So Hemi lives on?
@danielrichter38263 ай бұрын
Hope so
@bryaninnc55113 ай бұрын
Yeah, that wasn’t clear to me either
@moparjr893 ай бұрын
Yes unless they have been doing a good job at hiding an entirely new engine thats just for the trucks
@mikesnifferpippets37332 ай бұрын
Only in the HD rams.
@HISPEEDLEVEL3 ай бұрын
Who doesn't want more power? - Everyone who can count money. Silly question. We aren't talking about drag race fancy cars - we are talking about work trucks guys. Remember this!
@markstacy97083 ай бұрын
My Nissan Frontier has the 9 speed, and I do all my highway driving in 8th gear. If I use 9th gear, it's constantly shifting, 8th gear is much better, and I still only turn 2000rpm at 70mph, and get 23mpg. I think manufacturers sacrifice drivability for an extra mpg.
@JD-yx7be2 ай бұрын
my 6 speed tacoma does that also, i keep it in 5th on the highway
@billferris52922 ай бұрын
Cummins kinda blew it with their last engine redesign, hopefully they will correct these issues.
@SkeetMcRibb3 ай бұрын
10 speeds are a gift from God. They're always in the powerband.
@ciaratheparalyzedpitbull99393 ай бұрын
I gotta say I have a 21’ 6.4 2500 and a 23’ Cummins 2500 and the ZF trans in the 6.4 is so much better than the 68RFE
@Tsxtasy13 ай бұрын
I see you have the 12”x12” foam squares for sound treating the room. I had those for a while too. You should look into making some rock wool panels. Huge, huge, huge improvement from the foam squares. The foam squares made a minute difference. But 1 diy rock wool panel did more than an entire wall of foam squares
@rk-ec7kx3 ай бұрын
Why don't they offer a manual transmission, nobody wants a crappy automatic transmission in their heavy duty truck
@JD-yx7be2 ай бұрын
nobody actually bought the manual when they did offer it. It was under 1% take rate
@xfactor58763 ай бұрын
Good stuff. As far as a cab update, if it isnt broke, why fix it. Ram has had class leading interiors for a long time. Their cab dimensions allow for excellent room inside. I think refresh is fine. Why waste money and just exactly what would you try and fix?
@kennethobando57553 ай бұрын
They just Can switch the ram HDs to the new cab already in use in the 1500. It is more roomy. Cost is not much as it is already being made /used in the 1500s for several years.
@wyo_garage203 ай бұрын
The new cab on 1500 is much larger than
@xfactor58763 ай бұрын
@@kennethobando5755 This might be a good idea, but remember that for room, they have the megacab. I sold my megacab as the overall length was a pain in tight situations. My HD cab is roomy enough. I would not want to compromise bed length or make a longer truck to accomodate a bigger cab. Just personal preference.
@488ci3 ай бұрын
Ford has better seats than Dodge. We have Ford and Dodge 5500 and the Ford's are nicer to Drive. Only problem is that the Ford's break down all of the time.
@wyo_garage203 ай бұрын
@@488ci Ram have had THE industry standard interior for a half decade
@ronladuke72353 ай бұрын
The law of diminishing returns applies to almost everything, the advantage in power and efficiency is probably so small the extra complexity and possibility less reliability may not be worthwhile?
@H-RutherfordHill3 ай бұрын
ZF already has a plant in South Carolina.
@TFLtruck3 ай бұрын
Yep.
@aaronphillips27283 ай бұрын
I worked on that plant!
@joshsteward14883 ай бұрын
Yess they do but they can't build the transmissions like we do or the quantity we do, we build all their 8 speed and 9 speed here in Indiana
@The_Lincoln_Penny3 ай бұрын
One of the biggest things I noticed about the ZF is that it is capable of downspeeding. I the new Cummins is downsped in a similar way to the X15 , it could mean some significant increases in efficiency.
@TheMacronical3 ай бұрын
As for the future hybrid option, by 2027 Eaton will have a 48V mild hybrid option available for semi trucks. They already have a close collab here, as all trucks ordered with a Cummins get Eaton transmissions IMO we'll see something similar for ALL HD trucks soon thereafter
@jhrubicon14703 ай бұрын
Have you heard of 'Edison motors' ? They've already built a hybrid semi and patented builds. They even do pick up truck kits. Go check them out
@KevinB-d7t3 ай бұрын
Its not a mild hybrid. Someone told you a fun bag of BS.
@JacobWinkle3 ай бұрын
I'd like a motor the will last but it seems the trucks fall apart before you get to wear out the motor anyways.
@blackopsrocks3 ай бұрын
Things about the powerline: The transmission in both 6th and 8th is using only one planetary set to provide the ratio. That means that unloaded cruising should be that much more efficient, the 10 speed on the other hand overdrives two sets to achieve top gear, slightly less efficient.
3 ай бұрын
Right, you will get and extra one tenth of a mile per gallon.
@blackopsrocks3 ай бұрын
Quite alot of heat is generated thru the planetaries, enough the transmission has to be cooled even in lock up. So given that...its not zero net increase.
3 ай бұрын
@@blackopsrocks The extra ratios that keep the engine closer to its torque peak will probably deliver better fuel economy especially towing heavy loads.
@blackopsrocks2 ай бұрын
Yes, I'm just stating that mechanically it will be more efficient with one less planetary to run in top gear. On the ford 10 speed you run the planets on the first and third sets for overdrive, which is technically 16 points of gear to gear contact and some might argue thats stronger...I would argue it is just producing more heat beause 10th kicks down pretty much immediately with a slight amount of input. The ZF trans runs 8 points of contact through one drum output and the others are hydraulically clutched to direct drive. I like that, its better, provided the gears are slightly larger and getting enough lube to keep them cool.
2 ай бұрын
@@blackopsrocks ZF says their 8 speed is better than a 10 speed you know that's BS.
@cdalton31692 ай бұрын
No stupid hybrids in a heavy work truck. No batteries, no hydrogen. Diesel. No substitute.
@ebenezerwheezer29573 ай бұрын
How about the 2025 Ramcharger plug-in hybrid? Is there any more info on it?
@JD-yx7be2 ай бұрын
That is basically a 2500 and it should launch in the late winter or spring
@bigblocklawyer3 ай бұрын
Need to have ZF design the hvac blend doors in these shitboxes while they're at it. Nothing has changed since '89. A fairly decent engine in the biggest piece of garbage truck and transmissions ever made. german dodge junk.
@melissasmess27733 ай бұрын
ZF is good.
@bigblocklawyer3 ай бұрын
@@melissasmess2773 Yeah. After 30 years of 48 and 68 junk. Finally.
@drrhino49383 ай бұрын
I think a gasoline cummins hybrid would be amazing. You would get the torque, probably get as good or better efficiency, with cheaper fuel and no DEF systems or particulate traps. I think in all but max tow long haul applications this would be better than a diesel, and you could have power generation. I know, you could probably hybrid a diesel too, but packaging the DEF tank and particulate traps and other diesel components along with hybrid components would get heavy and you run out of space fast.
@Patrick-xd8jv3 ай бұрын
They are too heavy
@AJ-yg2wu2 ай бұрын
I've taken a 2000 F-350 single rear wheel 7.3 L powerstroke and have all upgrades. Engine totally resealed and upgraded to 600 Hp with a stage 3 tranny with billet torque converter. Torque is well over a 1,000 flbs. No def no regen. Spent $20k and my truck is paid for and will outwork and outlast any of these new POS. It's not connected to my iPhone but it will run circle round the new ones.
@michaelsomales22642 ай бұрын
No one watching this video gives a rats a** about your Ford. Stay on topic!
@manolosanchez9002 ай бұрын
@@michaelsomales2264ok Cummins boys 🤦🤦🤡
@JD-yx7be2 ай бұрын
@@michaelsomales2264 i care
@jeffhall768Ай бұрын
Why not upgrade the radio so it works with your iPhone? That's cheap and easy
@roguedogx3 ай бұрын
12:01 it could also work the other way and have a limited power adder via an electric motor. just something to give the vehicle some response while the boost is building. a decently easy addition is the vehicle already has 48 volt architecture.
@WyLEE083 ай бұрын
Just yet again one of many YT videos hyped trying to predict future vehicles with no factual info. Why can’t KZbinrs wait until then have the facts?
@leedanielson74523 ай бұрын
Gotta get them views man everyone knows that!!! Even if it's all speculation and half truths.......
@96kylar3 ай бұрын
Because you clicked on it.
@randymengler5403 ай бұрын
Totally agree , bla, bla,bla, might as well be 2 broads discussing a soap opera on tv
@leedanielson74523 ай бұрын
@@randymengler540 🤯🤣🤣🤣
@josephpuchel64972 ай бұрын
Hey Hemi 6.4 with 8 speed ZF is perfecto Put that HD ZF as option when ordering Nice update
@Reddog12553 ай бұрын
Just getting tooooo expensive
@dannyneal97133 ай бұрын
That’s why I’m not buying a new Ram HD the cab is much smaller than the competitors unless you get the MegaCab but you still don’t get a flat floor like their 1/2 pickups have. I’m still hopeful that they change it soon.
@curtiskrause51013 ай бұрын
My dad has a 2021 ram 2500 Cummins and he is fed up with the DPF. He’s had nothing but trouble with it. He has no problem with the def though. He is looking for a gasser 1500 now. He is done with Diesel trucks with the emissions.
@duhgreat84493 ай бұрын
Wait till his turbo goes out
@ta706153 ай бұрын
Why so many issues with it? I traded my 2017 Cummins with 58k miles on it for a 2024 and had zero issues with anything.
@curtiskrause51013 ай бұрын
@@ta70615 It’s currently at the dealership getting new injectors at 50,000 miles because at least one of them was bad. The dealership couldn’t find the issue until last week when they drained the oil back down to full, took it on a 10 mile test drive and they saw a noticeable change in oil level. The DPF regen happens every 50 miles and sometimes it takes 50 miles to finish. He is going to either trade it in for a 1500 or sell it privately and get a 1500 once he gets it back.
@SteveShelton-hh4xt3 ай бұрын
Same, I bought a new 2023 F250 7.3L Godzilla. I will not buy a diesel with all the DEF crap that clogs up the engines. If you don't have a Cat to tow, go with a gas truck.
@victorbernier47652 ай бұрын
My state doesn’t do emissions so I’m having mine removed
@johnnash113316 күн бұрын
You have have to pulled yo asse to. When we pulled. Up to you??? ,
@michaelalbert84743 ай бұрын
I get that my Silverado is only 1/2 ton but equipped with a 6.2 L engine I get over 20 mpg on the highway unloaded. If I add weight to get it to similar weight of a HD truck it has very little impact on mileage. 16 mpg unloaded sucks.
@JD-yx7be2 ай бұрын
it is probably the tires. my f250 and f150 tires have a pretty big difference
@stgraves2602 ай бұрын
The 420 and 370 HP Cummings is not the issue with the Ram 2500/3500. It’s the 6spd auto. The 8spd auto would make a Hugh difference. My 2005 Ram 5.9 Cummings would love that 8spd auto.
@mutantryeff3 ай бұрын
If you purchase a new 450, 550 or above with a diesel in CACAfornia, you will need to smog the truck twice a year plus register it with CARB before registering it with DMV. In 2027, that diesel will need to be smogged four times a year.
@MrJohney3 ай бұрын
That's insane
@us1fedvet3 ай бұрын
Or, move out of Cali to free America.
@ml98673 ай бұрын
That's crazy because they're already heavily detuned versions of the 3/4 & 1 ton models. My fire department has a fairly new detuned F-550 mini-pumper that's maxed out on weight & needs more power along with better brakes. It sucks that Ford doesn't make the F-600 in a crew cab.
@RyanJohnson-ft6qi3 ай бұрын
Move out of that comie land
@leedanielson74523 ай бұрын
CA is absolutely crazy...What a bunch of nut jobs....
@ozzyvanhalenroxАй бұрын
Peterbilt medium duty trucks with the PX-7 and PX-9 use the Eaton 8 speed, but it’s called a Paccar TX-8. Seems ram is going to do the same
@jeramiahshastid60413 ай бұрын
Made in Mexico means much lower quality. The plants reliably turn out substandard products.
@1hasbeen5313 ай бұрын
When they were building HDs in St Louis and Saltillo, the Mexican plant outperformed the US plant by every measure, including QC. That's not a rumor, that is a fact directly from an engineer friend.
@Reddog12553 ай бұрын
Ya Americans are such hard workers 😂😂😂😂
@Tallnerdyguy3 ай бұрын
Tell that to toyota.
@user-pgchargerse713 ай бұрын
After driving over 700,000 miles in my 2011, completely disagree!
@Tallnerdyguy2 ай бұрын
@@jeramiahshastid6041 also means they are rapists and murderers, no?
@chriswielenga98822 ай бұрын
I have a Ford 10spd with 2.7L . Three!! overdrive gears! I get better fuel economy in 9 or 8. I ordered mine with 3.73 gearing because of all the overdrives.
@luisillo19873 ай бұрын
Now your talking diesel hybrid would be best of all worlds.
@Jph6063 ай бұрын
How about build it in the US so you have better quality control plus us jobs
@H-RutherfordHill3 ай бұрын
A litle late to this news TFL.
@TFLtruck3 ай бұрын
If it’s truck news and TFL has not reported it….is it news?😉
@H-RutherfordHill3 ай бұрын
@@TFLtruck Yes, your arrogant always-late-to-the-show “news” channel.
@T51B13 ай бұрын
@@H-RutherfordHill Why even bother commenting then?
@waylonmccrae3546Ай бұрын
The New Cummins Gas Engine with Propane & Browns-Gas Hydrogen Options Is Going To Be Cool !! 😊👍🏻
@us1fedvet3 ай бұрын
Stellantis moving in for the kill. Maybe Elon Musk has some spare change to salvage Chrysler and Dodge? It’s pretty obvious what the end game is. Sad.
@germanjesus3 ай бұрын
Im a mopar mechanic and I won’t buy anything new from any manufacturer but I’d buy a brand new dodge if they get rid of the emissions garbage. Can’t have a vehicle going to stealership every other week
@westeed13 ай бұрын
Have they fixed the failing Bosch cp4 failing fuel pumps?
@bradenwuesthoff56393 ай бұрын
Cummins stopped using cp4 pumps a few years ago
@ShersGarage3 ай бұрын
Ram supposedly stopped using the CP4 after many failures and went to CP3. Chevy uses Denso. Ford is still on CP4 🙄
@Trevor4ag3 ай бұрын
Nah, they just put cp3 back in
@edt6893 ай бұрын
They are recalling all ram with cp4 .call ur local dealer to swap back in cp3 with no customer cost.
@Toolaholic73 ай бұрын
They used the CP4 in 2019 and 2020 only
@mojo43762 ай бұрын
Ram REALLLY needs to update their cabs. They are old, outdated, and showing their age badly compared to Ford and GM.
@thomasalexander53982 ай бұрын
Agreed! Roll the rear windows down, leave the front windows up...go down the interstate @ 70mph and watch your front doors pulsate along with the whomp whomp whomp of the seat belts flapping in the wind to the point you feel the whomp whomp whomp physically in your head...tldr...sorry short story piss poor aerodynamics! Needs updating badly! My .2
@leedanielson74523 ай бұрын
RAM is killin it!!! 🏆👍👏🏻👏🏻
@bostonaviation20103 ай бұрын
lol
@mariop85763 ай бұрын
Ram is killed for sure 🤣
@johnbusby92813 ай бұрын
No Stellantis is killing Ram!
@joshsteward14883 ай бұрын
Ram is the nest truck out there hands down, ford's are absolutely hideous and chevys look just like a Toyota, everyone always trying to copy what mopar does
@arca9e2953 ай бұрын
Or how about stop making these types of trucks for the non commercial market? Too many Bro Dozers and men with fragile masculinity who don’t need these trucks or for that matter know how to work on them
@countcuda703 ай бұрын
Who cares. It's their money. Can spend it how they want
@designfabrication5123 ай бұрын
I wonder what this versions fatal flaw will be??? My KDP on my 12 valve was an easy fix 👍
@antonfloor3443 ай бұрын
1 thing I do know is, it will cost a lot.
@petek65223 ай бұрын
I didn't even do the one in my 97 yet with 170k on it
@designfabrication5123 ай бұрын
@@petek6522 mine had around 200K on it and the pin was barely sticking out HOWEVER I sleep much better at night now
@user-pgchargerse713 ай бұрын
I put 505,000 on my '94 that I bought new and never got around to doing the kdp.
@designfabrication5123 ай бұрын
@@user-pgchargerse71 I’ve heard the KDP is mostly urban legend but the thought is scary enough to warrant doing it ha. The alternative is SCARY
@privateer91813 ай бұрын
Have they fixed that heater grid bolt failure on new trucks?
@Toolaholic73 ай бұрын
The 10 speed in the F150 is a pile of shit,Ford has a class action lawsuit against them on this transmission
@bettymaverick10983 ай бұрын
Who can afford these trucks. RAM lots are full of 2023 and 2024 trucks and now 2025's. $116K for a truck, wow. What is going to happen to RAM?
@RCPropaganda3 ай бұрын
and only 150k what a deal!
@jeffjohnson22732 ай бұрын
No manual transmission, no sale. I'll keep my old truck running. Can't beat that 3rd pedal.
@guardrail28973 ай бұрын
I posted this about the transmission over 2 years ago. I said they were going solely with the ZF transmissions for 2025 or 2026. Everyone said I had no idea what I was talking about. Well, I guess I do know what I'm talking about.
@twinchantillytiffanysbenny88523 ай бұрын
Zeeeeeee eeffff not zed f. Camaro zed28?! No it’s Z28. Not JZed it’s JZ! It’s pronounced ZF.
@TFLtruck3 ай бұрын
Thank you. We didn’t know.
@T51B13 ай бұрын
Who cares
@twinchantillytiffanysbenny88523 ай бұрын
@@T51B1 it’s proper english, I care.
@johncanalese5883 ай бұрын
Its a Gernan company and that is how "ZF" is pronounced in German. As Andre just returned from Germany, I guess he was just being respectful.