TRX vs Raptor: You'll REALLY Be Surprised By How They Do on the World's Toughest Towing Test!

[@michaelreese3886]

This video was one of the best you guys have ever done! That was beyond entertaining, it was AWESOME!!!!

[@themajesticmanic]

Not even close.

[@EdMrEasy]

must be new to the channel

[@xaza7774]

@@themajesticmanic Future gasoline prices $5 -6 a gallon diesel even higher

[@CarlosRuiz-mg9dt]

Qq

[@daveloderhose874]

I like the two up challenge it eliminates all variables ie: temp. wind , traffic.

[@philtripe]

hope the equalized the trailer tire pressures

[@JonBecker81]

Well, different drivers is one new variable.

[@carter123cbq]

@@philtripe 🤣 should they have also eaten the same breakfast that day?

[@ChairmanKimchi]

They should sleep together too!

[@TheNuclearBolton]

Yes and they should have been born on the same day

[@dahvay]

I like you running the trucks at the same time like this.

[@jmacc4473]

Yup! Definitely the most accurate way to do comparisons!

[@adriansienko3619]

I want to see the 3.0 eco diesel vs the 3.0 Duramax vs 3.0 power stroke doing a tow off

[@8__D]

They did that last year

[@adriansienko3619]

@@8__D not the 2021 trucks

[@8__D]

@@adriansienko3619 have they changed?

[@adriansienko3619]

@@8__D Silverado: upgraded towing capacity Ram: eco diesel update Ford: new body, upgraded towing features, capacity

[@cordellroberson532]

@@adriansienko3619Silverado *2WD upgraded capacity. all GM did was recertify the two-wheel drive models to the same 15,000 gcwr of their 4x4s.

[@stern12akachris32]

Love the tow off format. Gives Identical Conditions so the comparison is no excuse fair !!!!

[@MountainMasella]

This is honestly better content - and earlier - than any magazine test. "Two super trucks towing up the toughest grade in the US"...you guys rock!

[@ralf9405]

This was the best towing test video ever!

[@josephsteyne366]

I definitely like the video but I also like when you guys go a little more in depth with how the truck is actually towing. Great job as always!

[@brusher.production]

I’m pretty sure they didn’t really worry about that too much with these trucks because they really aren’t towing trucks. They were just saying hey, look you can toe and they don’t do a half bad job

[@BF1-P]

This is one of the greatest videos on youtube EVER! I think i saw it 30 times at least.

[@andrewwendorff5434]

I like the new tow off, I enjoy the actual pump saying what the MPG is.

[@poglant]

3mpg for hellcat lol

[@gasolinediesel972]

@@poglant It was 8.3.

[@dlsmallenginerepair]

The interior sound in the Ford sounds like a lawnmower compared to the Dodge.

[@ramrider1453]

Lol. So true. Wear ear plugs in that Ford.

[@toughbowtietruck]

Probably have to listen for the real engine sounds in the speakers lol

[@toughbowtietruck]

@Burger King Which I am aware of hence the point of my comment.

[@m4bolicious]

@@toughbowtietruck Duramax boy trashing on Ford while Shitvy’s best off-roader is the trail boss 😅

[@toughbowtietruck]

@@m4bolicious I just traded it in for a 2019 Ram 2500, and my other GM has a solid front axle so

[@alistairhill207]

Hi TFL. I like this format of the tow offs because the shit talking/ goofing off happens immediately!

[@richardmonroe6660]

Surprised on the mpg! The feedback Ford will be getting on the TRX’s performance should force a motor update. Just wish I could afford that TRX, great video guys

[@dreadnoughtprime6301]

It makes sense that the RAM barely needed to apply its brakes. Yes, the displacement is respectable, but superchargers are mechanically driven, so they place a load on the engine.

[@Cataclysm1]

Not with a throttle body closed - no mass through a compressor means no work being done. In addition, there is a bypass valve that prevents any compression from occurring. The S/C has no impact here.

[@dreadnoughtprime6301]

@@Cataclysm1I'm aware. The parts are still moving, kid.

[@gasolinediesel972]

@@dreadnoughtprime6301 Makes sense. Pulley vs exhaust.

[@renaissancepoet]

Running the trucks together is ten times better, because of the mini drag racing! It's much more entertaining to watch!

[@WrestlingHeroesfigz1]

I love this channel

[@BDCOL1050]

Great video! Run trucks at the same time, as in this video.

[@MrShawnuff]

This was dope, we need more ike truck vs truck challenges.

[@stout_tossme7541]

Yes. Please run them both at the same time. This was awesome. Both trucks are beasts. I like the fact you both are just chilling while trucks want to rip roar off down the road.

[@marknelson9406]

Nice video. Thanks for keeping the background music to a minimum! Much more pleasant viewing.

[@jakes5530]

Nice video, I didnt know the payload was that low on the raptor. If the avg family of 4 weighs let’s say ~650 lbs, you can only tow 3500 lbs given a 10% tongue weight. That’s pretty interesting - not even half of the rated 8000 lbs.

[@christopherfieldsjr1405]

averag american family of 4 is way more than that😂

[@superairdave]

Great video!!! I like them done together like that. Awesome to see them side by side performing.

[@thepeddle]

Andre you can turn on the gear display in the Ram. Option in settings. Great vid as always boys

[@leslienordman8718]

I like the "Tow-Off" format. You did a good job of cross-cutting the editing between the two of you. Thanks also for having a third vehicle for the exterior shots.

[@cornfedproductions9773]

I was pretty shocked by the supercharged 6.2 getting better mpg than the ecoboost. Makes me wanna buy the wimple 2.9 super for my truck!

[@ericpatrell4776]

Small turbo engines are really efficient in low load scenarios but as soon as there's any load on them, they stink

[@cornfedproductions9773]

@@ericpatrell4776 Maybe that’s why the Detroit two-stroke engines used a supercharger rather than a turbo!

[@corvettehh]

@@cornfedproductions9773 some use both!

[@Cataclysm1]

The Hemi isn’t working as hard, and likely makes up for its overall displacement with a more efficient A/F ratio at the load it was. The 3.5L TT would be producing the same power up the hill as the RAM, but due to working harder would probably be running a richer A/F, using slightly more fuel.

[@brettrados7958]

I like the two trucks running at the same time. Love the hill test.

[@exia989]

Interesting result on the mpg test. From my experience, especially with my Ranger, Ford overestimates the mpg which i think is why it came up higher than the TRX and yet was slightly lower overall per the pump

[@warrenhunts]

I drove a 3.5L ecoboost for 7 years, the performance and MPG exactly matches my experience. They are thirsty when towing. My 36 gal tank felt way too small on long distance towing trips.

[@davidn5861]

Thanks TFL!!! TRX is the new King 🤴.

[@MichaelJanzen]

Tow-off was more fun to watch. The banter between the drivers was more interesting than when they sit together. Also fun to see how one truck pulled past the other several times.

[@donleamon8653]

Wow, the TRX spanked that Raptor on the rolling acceleration run!!! It didn’t walk away, it went up and left at a sprint.

[@chrishuber8930]

@@connorclark4096 the hellcat is a hemi

[@dronevidsandfreedom]

Dude it should it was pulling the exact same weight but it had 702 vs 450 hp so if it did not run away from the raptor something is wrong with it.

[@chrishuber8930]

@@dronevidsandfreedom its not about horsepower here its torque. Torque is what pushes you in your seat and gives you thrust. Horsepower enables you to go to a higher speed faster. If it only had 450 ft lbs vs the 450 hp it would be a lot slower in these tests.

[@Regularguy1798]

This side by side identical run is much better... Great job!!!

[@woffordsoverlandjourneys8618]

You guys are ridiculously fun and educating to watch,!! I love tfl and can't wait for more videos from you guys always first!!¡!

[@coojoza]

Having them both in the same video is the way to go... it was nice seeing them at the same time

[@jakeberg6758]

The side-by-side test is WAY BETTER. Way more info, way more entertaining. Thank you.

[@Rusty.1776]

Great video y'all! I love the --TANDEM TFL TOW OFF!--😊😊

[@MattN03]

Great video as it is the most accurate way to compare the trucks. Same road conditions, same weather conditions, and same trailer weight. Great job TFL!

[@jnmaher1967]

At 5,000 lbs perhaps the Honda Ridgeline should enter the race.

[@juanpinto5743]

I think it might have more payload than both of these trucks

[@thwong37]

Awesome Run TRX good job Rapter.. I like this way better Roman; it is much more engaging, and you still covered a lot. Andre pulling a "Nathan" with putting down the power was great. Thank you , the changes being made in 2021 can be a great thing. Loving TFL Tommy NJ.

[@alonsoconstantino5493]

I like the new format of the test and the split screen.

[@bellat8448]

I’m liking the side by side comparison. I couldn’t help but laugh when I heard that raptor at full throttle.

[@mpsangha]

Sounds like a vacuum cleaner

[@hawaiiansoja]

Trailer drags up the Ike was the best part.

[@khakiswag]

So when will we see the ultimate off-roaders go off road?

[@joeyc2385]

They did a video a while back with the TRX, Raptor and Gladiator going off road

[@gasolinediesel972]

Never. They don't wanna scratch their precious trucks.

[@matthewsnyder9296]

I believe they are in Moab right now filming them both.

[@KrZyKrMa]

i wanna see these two trucks go extreme off roading

[@JohnSmith-zi9or]

I like that you're running the trucks with identical trailers AND at the same time. Atmospherics, especially in those mountains, can cause big differences in performance if the trucks are tested at difference times of day let alone different times throughout the year. Good comparison!

[@johnnielingo5368]

Great video, guys! I'm tired of see only ecoboost to represent Ford. The 302 is a pretty good engine. How about 302 with 3.73 vs ram and the others.

[@boduke9428]

It's because the EcoBoost performs better.

[@tomdrwal5536]

Yes, the tow-off is good! It's true, it's the most reliable you can get. I mean you have two trucks at the same time, same weather conditions (which does play a part), same wind, etc. Keep doin' it guys!

[@vw1610]

I never thought I’d favor a dodge but damn I want it. V8 muscle truck all day!!

[@tati-anaroseee4316]

@Jerry Byrd to be fair people drive the shit out of dodges tho😂they don't drive them like camrys and there's almost a direct correlation to bad drivers and unreliable cars

[@Miguel-fh7bv]

@Jerry Byrd ok that won’t stop me from one...

[@gasolinediesel972]

@Jerry Byrd ZF 8 speed is bulletproof smartass. You've never worked on a truck with an 8 speed.

[@mike_johnson87]

Both trucks did well but the TRX did better than expected.

[@nathankestin1922]

Please never do away with the classic ike gauntlet intro music

[@jeremychristian1282]

I like to listen to TFL on my way to work and the explosion of sound that came from the TRX from my car stereo made me jump thinking I was about to be run over by a freight liner!!

[@jessefleming9763]

The Ram HD Cummins also had 0 brake applications just last year

[@bigmrfnB]

Cumm brother!

[@MegaHannaz]

Yes @Jesse Fleming - but the RAM's adaptive cruise control uses the brakes to maintain speed, so even though the driver is not touching the brake pedal, the brakes are still being used...

[@jessefleming9763]

@@MegaHannaz Ahhh, I forgot they used adaptive cruise on that run

[@jamespenner1412]

Yes someone else remembers!!!

[@lesfillin]

I like the side by side comparison test. The road conditions are more the same, including traffic conditions.

[@nicks10r80]

it would be interesting to see how much more weight you would need to add to the trx for the raptor to be just as fast as it

[@machfive916]

I really liked this new format of dueling trucks heading up & down the Ike Gauntlet.

[@darkwaternorth2867]

I really like the two at the same time a more raw comparison ,very real if you know what I mean.excellent video Thank you.

[@gilbertnadeau7181]

Wow, almost identical MPG. I wonder how much that little topper in the back of the Raptor is effecting its MPG?

[@TheGreatbigabyss]

negligably, considering the 5000lb brick behind the truck. I think it's just a case of the Ecoboost having to work harder than the Hemi.

[@PotatoeJoe69]

It's really not surprising. The EcoBoost has had far worse than advertised fuel economy since the day it's been released. It's quite simple; a small, turbocharged engine has too be under much more load and turn higher rpm to produce the same power and torque as a larger engine, and thus gets worse fuel economy.

[@bobdennis4801]

@@PotatoeJoe69 so with that shouldn’t the TRX be getting better fuel economy towing than the Raptor. Since it’s a large displacement engine with much more horsepower.

[@amandahuginkiss4098]

@@PotatoeJoe69 I guess you don't realise the EPA numbers are not for towing.

[@PotatoeJoe69]

@@amandahuginkiss4098 Even without towing, EcoBoost have never gotten even remotely close to advertised fuel economy.

[@canti3786]

the raptors small v6 was having to use more turbo forcing more air and requiring more fuel just to get anywhere near the power of the rams v8, where as the ram in comparison could idle up the mountain and only need a little bit of help from the supercharger.

[@1stpaintballmaster]

Thought the format was pretty cool. Also kind of nicely shows the difference of each truck on camera. Makes it more than just a numbers game. Either way though the information you all provide is useful. Keep it up please!

[@familyherochannel2288]

Traditional way and you have to bring back Mr Truck

[@dalehovland3283]

Mr truck comes in at 26001 and up range cdl required

[@ldmtag]

Noooo, please, not mr. Tr*ck! He talks like he has a pound of chewing gum in his mouth. We foreigners can't watch him.

[@06colkurtz]

Very nicely done both of you. Love the new format. Keep it up. Andre looked like a kid on his first date when he put the hammer down.

[@stephensalt6787]

I like the tow off, it adds interest.

[@davidbagley5452]

So surprised by the gas mileage of the TRX. I am a Ford owner and love the Raptor but you have to give props to Ram for the looks, engine, and performance of the TRX. Lets go Ford. Time to step up the game and thank Ram for pushing the market. Love this video. More please.

[@Xmoto16]

The trx is the truck to own. It will be legendary like the srt10 ram

[@Welcometofacsistube]

And the original powerwagons, the lit red express, the Dakota rt,

[@Xmoto16]

Yes exactly! I honestly am torn between a trx and a gladiator personally. Im the sick person who would drive a convertible truck on the highway, on the way to the trails ofcourse

[@kahless0173]

Legendary just means write this down.

[@Stuka87]

To me the fuel economy being identical means both vehicles were underworked. Meaning, they had power to spare, so the economy basically shows the amount of fuel that is required to move a given amount of weight. They may have diverged if there was an 8k pound trailer which would require both trucks to work harder.

[@Seattle808]

By far the best format, the tow off should be done every time imo

[@matthewschoenemann]

My thought on the mpg is that the Ram didn't have to work as hard to tow the trailer. Less RPMs means less fuel used, so I guess that's the reason it got better fuel mileage. 🤷

[@chrishuber8930]

Yep

[@chrishuber8930]

Plus turbos

[@superkidzach]

Raptor has less cylinders though!

[@matthewschoenemann]

@@superkidzach True, which adds a little more confusion to it. 🤷

[@bennyang8049]

I like this format better than 1 at a time

[@ramrider1453]

👏👏👏👏👏 Very well done TFL. Love the tow off competition. I have towed heavy campers for 20 plus years and it’s nice to see a comparison with different trucks. I was surprised how close the fuel mileage was with both trucks. That TRX is one mean machine for sure. Well done guys. When it comes to towing torc and house power is very important. Need it on windy days more so than hills. Enjoyed it!!

[@JonDisnard]

Yeah, doing both at the same time was a better a format, at least for these two trucks. I'm not sure about other trucks, how they pair comparatively, but these two made sense.

[@jersonfred4019]

I liked them at the same time and I’m a Ford guy but dang that trx is amazing

[@wint_62]

Poor guy. Fords are junk.

[@Welcometofacsistube]

@@wint_62 you misspelled pherd

[@jamespenner1412]

TFLTRUCK you guys did a spot on job, if been calling for you guys to get actual pump numbers not lie-o- meter numbers, and you delivered and look at the changed results!!! With all those results I can tell you with certainty, ford will have a v8 raptor in the near future!

[@stevennatale4471]

ECO or BOOST, have to choose with the foot.

[@fishonalbertaoutdoors9761]

At least you have a choice thats what I love. Decent mileage of you drive nice but performance if you want it too

[@jamesmiller7911]

@@fishonalbertaoutdoors9761 as this video shows,, there is no choice when towing. But yes, the Ecoboost is a great engine.

[@KevAlberta]

@@jamesmiller7911 no choice? The Ford is still an option. Nobody is trying to set drag times while towing

[@jamesmiller7911]

@@KevAlberta have you owned or driven a ecoboost? Trust me, you WILL be on the turbo while towing.

[@smithjones1906]

Definitely one at a time. Not that this was uninteresting. But personally, I'd prefer a video around 2x as long that focused more on one truck at a time like you've done traditionally. As always, thanks for doing more than 1080 in some videos, nice to blow it up to 4k on my TV sometimes!

[@dmegahan]

Can you do a normal mpg loop, with trailers, and not one where you are beating the snot out of the trucks?

[@WW-wf8tu]

Tow offs are IMO a more productive use of time. Can accommodate 2 vehicles at once, 1 shoot time. (not including the chase/camera vehicle) You said(Roman)in a previous video you felt this was a lot of work. But I would imagine if time out the effort, it is faster over all to do 2 at once. Posting a mash up makes for more interesting content. Viewers can compare and discuss which they thought was better on the run. For the money, to do this exact thing, I would choose the TRX. :)

[@scottythebody0811]

Ford: This is what happens when you give a real engine boost

[@CubanRider]

This format is better for sure. TRX seems a no-brainer if you do a lot of towing.

[@celo8019]

I love this series between the two! Can’t wait to see that v8 in the raptor if they really decide to do it.

[@nordicwolf8808]

Rumor is, Supercharged V8 Raptor will be announced next month. Some have predicted the date as 3rd Feb, but let's see.

[@TheNuclearBolton]

Hopefully the 7.3l... but I highly doubt it... probably just the 5.2

[@gasolinediesel972]

@@nordicwolf8808 That rumor is bullshit. From the audio, it sounds like a 6+ liter displacement. Probably 6.8. Certainly not a 5.2.

[@gasolinediesel972]

@@TheNuclearBolton Both are wrong. It's the 6.8 NA V8.

[@TheNuclearBolton]

@@gasolinediesel972 they need to outperform the TRX though... we need an engine that produces low end torque... even if they put a 7.3l in there that produces 650 horsepower, I’d much prefer it over the 700 that the trx has due to its matching torque curve. The 7.3l can reliably produce 900 hp. And with an aftermarket setup, get into the 1600-1700 range.

[@frankiesfastcooking6027]

After spending 20 years in the military all I do everyday is watch you guys doing my dream job.

[@TFLtruck]

Thanks for your service. We are truly grateful.

[@nickweaver7337]

I like the traditional way where your both in the cab giving your positive and negative feedbacks.

[@cordellroberson532]

Hey Andre, I've mentioned this a couple of times on RAM videos but if you go inside of screen setup there is an option that says current gear. it's defaulted to off, if you change it to on it will always show you the gear the transmission is in without having to go into manual mode!

[@tfraz99]

Its hard to deny how much more well rounded the ram is for the price

[@donleamon8653]

Reality is, it’s not a bad tow vehicle. Wide, heavy, big power, big brakes, extra cooling... Needs mirrors

[@Ben-hl5ks]

Awesome video as always! I personally really like the side by side comparisons, but so long as you’re able to keep making videos I’ll be happy. 🙂

[@rydingwithryan493]

Not only is this layout more entertaining but it looks like you guys where having more fun.

[@travisparcsi4267]

The tow off is the go. Great job.

[@modernman7576]

I like how you guys do the simultaneous ike runs the best.

[@motorcycleguy]

More tow offs & more traditional towing. I guess what I'm saying is, more towing, for any reason

[@ericfriedle456]

I like that your running them at the same time. Very easy to really see apples to apples cause a lot could change between runs

[@kaliman198117ify]

Nice comparison

[@bjmcdole6294]

Interesting MPG results. Might the Raptor’s lesser efficiency come from working harder? Smaller motor, higher RPM’s

[@redjonnyboy00]

That's what I think, it probably has to use alot of boost the whole time, I have a second generation too I noticed wind and any hills that make the truck spool the turbo, kills MPG

[@codyramos3200]

4:10 gears don't help

[@bjmcdole6294]

@@codyramos3200 Don’t forget it’s a 10 speed transmission. The gear ratio isn’t ideal for towing but that’s not it’s intended purpose. Quick acceleration, torque is and why the Raptor has a 4:10 ratio. If the Raptor had 3:73 gears like most ideal F150 tow packages, it might get another 1-3 mpg. Having 34.6 (35’s) and the power it does with a 3.5 V6, it does an awesome job as is. Both trucks are nice and both have plus/ minus to them.

[@edwardsnieves5922]

Andre, you can setup the TRX’s cluster screen to add the option of showing what gear the truck’s at, it is available, maybe you guys just have it off.

[@jonathansymmonds8916]

These newer videos are great. I enjoyed it. You guys provided education on the trucks and were entertaining at the same time. 👍🏽👍🏽

[@mrburgermaster]

The fuel maps that optimize power and emissions under high load for the ecoboost do run quite rich, using effectively the same or more fuel than a larger displacement forced induction engine that runs leaner at relatively less load (assuming the operator demands the same average power for both scenarios). If both of these trucks were unloaded in city/highway driving with light acceleration, you would get better mileage with the raptor as both wouldn't be under much load and the raptor has a smaller displacement engine with lower friction/pumping losses (not much point to this, as the people that buy these types of vehicles drive inefficiently and tow).

[@ElectronicsForFun]

The 4.6 from the factory is stupid lean. I think the AFR command is almost 15 in those trucks. Ford can't seem to get it right. The v8 sips gas while the v6 guzzles it.

[@adrianduran493]

This video was awesome the side by side is great because u we’re able to do the little drag pulling the trailer I think we all done it and thank you guys for being true to the vehicle which ever INE it may be u guys rock

[@VanillaGorilla117]

I find this format with a head to head awesome. Can really see how the trucks differ in ability! Keep on the good work.

[@MrSupersaiyangoku]

I never considered buying a RAM over my Chevy but I NEEDS THE TRX AT THIS POINT. The MASCULINITY IS OFF THE SCALES!!!

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Once you buy a mopar you'll never want a chebby again

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

Ram is light years ahead of garbage motors.

[@jacobking4106]

@@Welcometofacsistubehahaha. You're smoking dope kid.

[@Welcometofacsistube]

@@jacobking4106 hahah not only am i your senior, son but I've forgotten more about cars then you'll ever know. Ps, insults from someone who cant even profile pic is pretty weak, princess

[@ib516]

Love the head to head tow style

[@codyjacobsen6954]

I like this format with 2 trucks.

[@dannylo7086]

Videos like this are why you guys are leaders in the field. Please keep it up!

[@RoaminLama]

Like the running side by side. Made it fun. Also, check your settings menu on the TRX. There’s a setting to turn on gearing in the display next to the odometer.

[@bobcat5412]

Actually the Ram will tell you what gear you're in. Check for it in settings.

[@TFLtruck]

Thanks fort he heads-up on this!

[@MichaelArtelle]

@@TFLtruck - Use your paddle shifters to set the truck into 8th gear, the display should indicate what gear it actually is in next to it. Took me a hot minute to figure it out. However, once you shut the truck off, it goes back to its normal display. Been able to do it on mother's 2015 1500 EcoDiesel for a few years now using the gear +/- buttons.

[@bobcat5412]

@@MichaelArtelle I can set it to constantly show what gear you're in on my 2020 ram 1500. Just need to turn it on in the settings.

[@MichaelArtelle]

@@bobcat5412 Must've been changed in newer trucks.

[@patrickcraner2213]

In the dashboard display settings.