2015 Ford F-150 2.7L EcoBoost takes on the Grueling IKE Gauntlet Towing Test Review

( www.TFLtruck.com ) ( www.TFLtruck.com ) The 2015 Ford F-150 2.7L pickup with the small turbo-charged EcoBoost engine may not seem like a great towing truck or at least so we suspected. After all a 2.7L engine in a traditional half ton V8 truck seems like a recipe for underpowered towing. So we decided to find out by taking Ford's smallest displacement truck engine and loading it to the max up the Ike Gauntlet grueling towing test review.
The Ike Gauntlet is a timed run up one of America's steepest highways from 9,000 feet above sea level to the top of the mountain at entrance to the Eisenhower Tunnel in Colorado.
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[@1FiftyOverland]

Coming back 8 years later, after I got my 2015 2.7l ecobeast. It now has 155,000 miles and still runs great no major issues.

[@AJourneyOfYourSoul]

It’s 2021 and the 2.7 is turning out to be one of the most reliable f150 engines. Pretty ironic considering what everyone was saying when it came out.

[@paulhunter9613]

Yea the war cry from the five oh crowd is tiresome, “just wait till those turbos go out”. Well they haven’t yet but there is a big problem with the five oh rattling and high oil consumption 🤕

[@cnoyes72]

@@paulhunter9613 Yeah, though Ford did have "teething" problems with the first gen ecoboost, they are now very reliable engines. I'm wondering how much longer the 3.3l base engine will stick around, though (wondering if the 2.7l will become the new base engine for ford, like the 2.7l I4 did for GM).

[@angrywhistlingcock5209]

@@paulhunter9613 I had a turbo go out on my 2.7 F150. I went to LKQ and spent $250 for a used low mileage driver side turbo and 45 minutes later I was good. What's the big deal? It was a cheap and fast replacement. The original turbo started passing oil and causing the truck to smoke on startup after it has been sitting.

[@alextran8188]

@@cnoyes72 my guess it'll stick around for awhile. Especially since ford sells lots of trucks to fleets. Although I've seen a couple 2.7 fleet trucks in for service.

[@danh8302]

@@paulhunter9613 i have experienced this quite a bit too, the thing I don’t get, you never hear anyone say “but the turbos” about a diesel.

[@adrianlanderos6298]

You guys should test the 2.7 again, now that they make an extra 25lb ft and is paired with the 10 speed. Compare it with this one

[@Mike-Capz83]

I wanna know too!

[@Kmecha84]

Same

[@seagullsbtn]

Ditto

[@AZ_Franco]

Going to buy a light travel trailer soon so I would be interested in watching a detailed tow review on the 10spd too. 👌🏽

[@mikemcc1156]

I love my 2015, but Insist I could have waited for that 10speed

[@rdsii64]

I'm from the Future. The second generation 2.7L mated to a 10 speed is beyond awesome. I can tow more weight than I will ever need to and get a solid 25 mpg on the highway. This is with a 2018 supercrew 4x4 with a 355's

[@onefastboi14]

Just bought one and probably the best truck I could’ve bought. Super happy with mine. 2024 super crew 2wd with 355’s as well.

[@calebwardenburg4727]

I bought my 2018 XLT 2.7 L Ecoboost last year and it’s incredible. The truck has regularly pulled everything I’ve put behind it. On the highway I get 26+ mpg and I’ve seen around 650 miles of range with a 23 gallon tank. I’ll be keeping this thing for a long time.

[@deifor]

are you still liking it?

[@jrpriller]

Have towed with your 2.7 f150 and what milage did you get

[@calebwardenburg4727]

@@deifor love it. Just got home actually and 5 inch snow covered roads are no match for it with BFG KO2s in 4H. No reason to hesitate either when going out in bad weather responding to the firehouse because of my truck.

[@calebwardenburg4727]

@@jrpriller yeah I’ve towed +7k many times and it takes it like a champ. 2nd gear is a workhorse going up hills and the supplemental cooler for the transmission keeps temps within safe ranges always. To be honest I haven’t really ever pulled long distance/paid attention to mileage when towing. My next trip I’ll let you know!

[@Painfulwhale360]

Update?!

[@thedailydrive5058]

This is coming from a Chevy guy.. I'm SOLD on this new F-150. The aluminum body and tt engine just can't be beat. Little to no rust, and a way lighter engine with 5.3 V8 numbers. Yeah, this new truck is badass.

[@philipketchum1407]

I was a Silverado guy until I tested a f-150 Ecoboost. I never looked back. I just picked up my second one. Traded my 3.5L for a new 2018 2.7L. It is cat quick and fun to drive. And yes I live in Michigan and rust is a major issue.

[@josephkool8411]

I think the Chevy pushrod is around the same weight if not lighter, but I'm not sure so don't ridicule me if I'm wrong.

[@Lucky8s]

@@josephkool8411 Just from a quick search, the F150 ranges from 1846 kg to 2236 kg. 1500 is 2129 kg to 2338 kg. If you get a similarly equipped truck, I think the difference in weight is going to be significant.

[@timothycc711]

@@philipketchum1407 Just be sure to keep washing the under carriage. Dam salt slurry. The power and economy if my 2016 F150 2.7 tt is really awesome considering it's a 4wd model. Love it!.

[@bobsundquist2039]

The downside to an aluminum body is the cost of repair if you get in an accdent or ding it.

[@tedschmitt178]

People, it's not like Ford just took an existing engine and stuck a couple of turbos on it like they did in the 70's. The 2.7 was DESIGNED from the start AS A TURBO ENGINE. And they have been THOROUGHLY tested, NOT like they did in the 70's. Do more reading before assuming anything.

[@jcortes3930]

TED Schmitt ok

[@andyharman3022]

Yeah, I give Ford a lot of credit for the engineering in the 2.7 EB. The compacted graphite iron block insert is unique in the industry.

[@josephkool8411]

Iron block ftw

[@shitloveaduck]

I have been saying this often! Yeah, the 2.7 was built like a V6 turbo diesel is built, operating as a single unit. I have 2 of the 2.7s on my farm and a 5.0 as my personal farm truck. We work off-road the vast majority of the time and since we work in the lower gears and lower rpms, the altitude here is 3600 - 4500 ft. The 2.7 routinely outperforms the 5.0. I was sceptical but am sold now. They were part of a package deal on 4 trucks, all 2019s. 4th truck is a F350 diesel.

[@josephkool8411]

I know

[@dslfrk59]

Always love watching this video. As a proud owner on a 2017 2.7 f150 I understand how peppy this engine is and how well it tows. At 39k miles no issues and still puts a smile on my face.

[@michaelH0000]

Right!! Same here i got a xlt 2015 2.7 with 71k not one issue totally bone stock. I love it

[@mikecoulter5243]

The 2.7 EB is the GOAT modern truck motor across all platforms, including gas and diesel. This engine paired with the 6 speed (not 10) is going to go down as one of the greats many years from now. Engineering at its finest.

[@Kmecha84]

What's wrong with the 10 speed? Closer ratios, trans is only an inch longer than the 6r80e. Co designed between two of the largest auto makers. Sign me up

[@kalebmcdaniel9147]

Unreliable and breaks more often

[@paulhunter9613]

@@kalebmcdaniel9147 the 10 spd is very reliable, obviously you don’t own one

[@cperine39]

"This thing is either gonna be a beer can or a fighter jet, we're gonna find out." Mr. Truck is the absolute best! Love your guys' videos so much and thank you for all you do to bring us these great reviews. And the scenery up in the beautiful Colorado mountains just makes them that much better. Keep up the good work Fast Lane Truck!

[@MichiganPowersports]

Just bought a 2018 f150 with the 2.7eb. This thing is absolutely incredible. The best part about having an ecoboost is ripping apart the people who hate on them. These are the best engines ive ever seen. Absolutely hands down 10/10

[@fmxinsane]

Any problems yet?

[@charliethompson4378]

fmxinsane I have a 2016 2.7L eco boost. It now has 24k miles and absolutely zero problems.

[@airtexaco]

2018- zero issues.

[@billymc2681]

2015 XLT with 55,xxx miles with 2.7 EcoBoost. No issues or problems.

[@RobertWilliams-ox4hz]

What kinda mileage are you guys getting?

[@blueovaltrucker]

Just reading some comments from some of the aluminum haters here and you just have to laugh. The cabs on all of the class 8 trucks are aluminum and have been for 50 years or more and a lot of them have millions of miles on them. My father drove an old KW conventional way back in 72 until 79 or so with a co-driver with over 4 million miles on it. He rebuilt the engine several times but never had to touch the cab other than a paint job. Im pretty sure it wasnt military grade aluminum either.

[@blueovaltrucker]

Im not positive if they use military grade aluminum on the entire truck but Im sure the the thicker gauge aluminum is used for the bed area and rocker panels and such. Aluminum has been a proven alloy for so many different types of vehichles and aviation for so many years I just dont understand some of the dislike for it now.

[@blueovaltrucker]

Aluminum does not corrode to the best of my knowledge but instead oxidizes and once that occurs nothing else happens and it stays very stable.

[@rxonmymind8362]

You are correct. The great example of this are Airstream trailers. 70% of all Airstream trailers that have been sold are still on the road. Some of the original ones are over 80 years old. Aluminum last.

[@yodawg3469]

Military grade is a joke,the military buys from the lowest bidder.

[@mmholling87]

@Ben Daulton For galvanic corrosion to take place you need two disamilar metals plus an electrolyte present. In real world applications aluminum will last longer than steel. I've never seen a monell solid rivet in carbon fiber, we only use hi-locks and maxibolts. Monells are mostly used in firewalls in my experience. Ford used 6xxx series aluminum on the body of the F150. In aerospace we mostly use 2024T3 but it's not great for compound curves which is where 6xxx aluminum shines.

[@davidkoeppen3121]

The crazy thing about my 2018 2.7 f 150 is it produces 400 lbs of torque @ 2750 rpms. That's almost 1000 rpms lower than the 3.5 and 2000 rpms lower than the 5.0 which equates to easy highway towing rpms. I tow a 5000 lb travel trailer and in 8th gear in tow mode its going about 65 mph at 2100 rpm and it never needs to down shift. I had to get on the interstate this week with a short on ramp with a semi in the right lane slowing down to let me in and I punched it and I was really suprised how well it merged into traffic.

[@neilcarter77]

Hi, I’m from 2023/24. Turbos are everywhere and the Ranger exists with the 2.3, 2.7 and 3.0 ecoboost!

[@CubanRider]

Almost 30k miles on my 2.7L baby Ecoobost '15 F150. Bought it thanks in great part to this review. I love it so far. I just use it to load up a 500 lbs bike in the back for the most part, so I'm not a heavy user. Looking forward to keeping this one for a long time.

[@MAGirlable]

What kind of deal did you get on yours from the dealership?

[@DS-TRUCKS]

Cuban Rider that's awesome!

[@emmanuelhernandez3335]

This is also my dream truck. I hope they don't discontinue this model in years to come. Making this small engine perform like a huge truck is like Steve Jobs starting the Iphone in the early days when nobody knew the benefits of a Windows technology. Only a Steve or a Tomas Edison like persistence and dedication can produce this 2.7L Ecoboost engine in an all aluminium body. But I would not mind if Ford would further shrink the size of the engine from 2.7L to 2.0L or even 1.6L. That would have reached the level of perfection to an art. We truck lovers will be blessed.

[@christiangarcia4789]

$10k off on mine with a 49k msrp

[@RedWingsninetyone]

How is it holding up?

[@hawkdaddy64]

I towed a 7x16 Haulmark 6' 6" interior height trailer with a headwind of 25mph and I could easily maintain 70 mph with my 2.7 2015 F150.

[@greatsaiyaguy271]

The 2018 and newer 2.7 turbo ecoboosts have more power than this model year. The HP is the same (325 horses) but the torque was increased from 375 lb ft up until the 2017 model to 400 lb ft in the 2018 & newer years. Glad to see that, I always felt the 325 horses was adequate especially for a smaller displacement engine (I drove a 2005 f150 lariat 4x4 w/ the 3 valve 5.4 Triton V8 for years and still have it). That ‘05 f150 had 300 HP & 365 lbs tq. Pretty good for the era and it towed pretty well for what I needed. I drove it daily and towed a 6,250 lb boat atleast once a month for way over a decade...coming up on 14 years!!! I’ve always found the 5.4s power to be fine. It was never the fastest, most reactive, fuel efficient, powerful engine out there but it was always reliable to me (has nearly 230,000 miles now) and rarely had mechanical issues. When I heard the newer 2015+ era f150s would offer a very lightweight, smaller ecoboost as a cheaper option to the powerful 3.5 ecoboost I was curious. When I heard it would have 325 horses and 375 lb ft of tq I was very impressed. A super small 2.7 v6 twin turbocharged to produce 25 more horses and 10 more lbs tq than my big 5.4 V8?!?! Count me in. And now the engine is even more powerful with 400 lbs tq

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

One of the major advantages the F-150 seems to possess over the opposition is a gearbox that is willing to change down when the revs start to drop. Other trucks TFL have tested seem to hang on to a high gear long after they should have changed down.

[@gmrtg1414]

I agree Ford seems to have the 6 speed down to a science and it works perfect. When they do these towing challenges with the GM 6.2 the 8 speed is always searching for the right gear which is horrible for a tranny.

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

***** I've noticed that about GM trucks. They've got eight speeds and a bloody big V8 and don't use either of them because of the lousy programming of the gearbox.

[@jdorf40]

MrKeyboardCommando True. But they have to set them up that way so they can tout their fuel efficiency.

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

Justin Giersdorf Don'y you mean, try and hide their trucks' dipsomania ?

[@seigell9500]

***** Funny, because I spent the whole F-150 2.7EB Video listening to the Engine Note and watching the Tach... The Tach was fluttering between 3 and 4K, and the Exhaust Note was going Up and Down to Match... I was anxious to see if Mr Truck was going to cycle through the EIC to look at the Tranny Temp, because I was sure the Excess Shifting was going to be an Issue...

[@johngarcia3920]

5 years no issues yet on my little 2.7 :)

[@cameronshackelton3404]

Not having any reliability issues like a lot of people claim?

[@user-fz3sz2dj4r]

Kent proved to be dead on with his analysis. Mr Truck living up to his name

[@DS-TRUCKS]

Can't wait to see the 2018 with its improved work take on the challenge!

[@josephkool8411]

Mine will be here in 2-4 more weeks. It takes 6-8 weeks when you order them. I got the regular cab, 6.5' bed , 4x4, vinyl seats, dark grey, 3.73 locking rear, 2.7 Ecoboost and air conditioning. I can't wait, I'm driving a 2004 Neon I bought brand new and this will a big upgrade for me, but I'm still keeping the peon because it's special to me. I'll use it for to go to work in and leave the truck at home.

[@josephkool8411]

I think it has cruise control too, but I'm I'm not sure. Should be here any day now. 47 days and counting....

[@1guyin10]

The little 2.7 seems more than capable of doing what it needs to do. Sure will miss the V-8 rumble though.

[@gregoryfaulkner5345]

Why would anyone miss the V8 unless they chose the 2.7 already? It's still the top-chosen engine and is going nowhere, because Ford wouldn't lose that market share for nothing? The 5.0 is still available and still in all the same trim levels and configurations as the 2.7 (actually more, because the 2.7 becomes unavailable at certain higher trim levels; I think anything above the Lariat; whereas the 5.0 is available from the smallest-configured XL, all the way up to King Ranch if I'm not mistaken), and it's only a few hundred dollars more than the 2.7 upgrade price. Now personally, I'm not a V8 muscle head; I much prefer the torque boost down low that turbo gas engines provide, and the added mpg that comes from smaller displacement employing them when not under heavy load; but if I were a naturally-aspired, muscle head wannabe, I'd just have chosen the Coyote V8 and would never have to miss it.

[@dennisreynolds6915]

It's gonna blow up

[@MichiganPowersports]

@@dennisreynolds6915Funny how they are holding value better after 4 years than the v8s... i guess the v8s blow up a lot more.

[@RedWingsninetyone]

@@MichiganPowersports research I've done shows the 2.7 is more reliable than the 3.5 or the 5.0.

[@pathunter7003]

@@dennisreynolds6915 and you were wrong

[@jonathanroberson122]

Nice job Ford. Just like the 3.5 Ecoboost I bet there's gonna be so many haters not willing to accept that a turbo v6 can outperform a v8

[@MarkJones-sk6vk]

Yes, but can it out perform a turbo V8?

[@visevise9492]

No, but what company makes turbo v8s stock?

[@kyjoe9]

Porsche

[@Rj-to8qm]

@@kyjoe9 what truck company

[@Sig721Tau]

@@kyjoe9 What a dumb ass statement to make on a video about trucks. Smh..

[@gmrtg1414]

One EPIC truck towing a CLASSIC truck. I like it!!

[@armytruth6860]

that weak engine

[@mstripling86]

I own a 2.7l v6 EcoBoost and so far I love it. I'm not sure how it will pan out long term but from what I've heard as long as you maintain them right they can last well over 200,000 miles.

[@RedWingsninetyone]

From what I've been told is just make sure you change your oil regularly (5k miles or so with full synthetic) and don't be afraid to get on it every once in a while to work those waste gates so they don't get stuck. After all that, it should be good for a long time.

[@paulhunter9613]

@redwings Oh those wastegates on my truck will never get stuck, believe me! 😬

[@jetdust]

I’ll be doing the Ike tomorrow with my 2018 2.7 eco pulling my 3k# trailer on my way back to Chicago... I’m sure it’ll do fine, so far the hills I’ve hit don’t even slow me down and has had more than enough power...

[@jetdust]

Update, the bumpy bad condition of the gauntlet was the worst part of the drive. Stayed in 6/7 gear the entire way up didn’t break a sweat @ 65/70 mph although semi’s were almost at a stand still

[@Ron-bo6tb]

I have two vehicles with the 2.7 Eco engine, a 2019 F150 STX extended cab and a 2020 Lincoln Nautilus, I love both vehicles, very reliable so far.

[@Fishingforbasstv]

hey fellas! Love the vidoes! We need an updated 2022 f150 2.7 gauntlet 🙏

[@tphelan86]

I am honestly impressed by this 2.7 eb. I think they are 100% correct that this is the engine of the future. I have a 2019 5.0. now but the 2.7 is my next choice . The 3.5 is more for the almost daily tow veh.

[@codyschadegg9590]

First-every newer model ford pickup I've driven that has the gauge cluster productivity screen-11f150 xlt, 12f150 platinum, 12f250 diesel and 15f350 diesel-has a truck app screen where you can adjust trailer brake gain from the steering wheel controls. So you complain that the brake controller is in a poor location but the switch is just a redundancy. Besides who uses the brake gain lever when you're hauling butt down the road?? Pretty sure I'm checking that out at slow speed before hitting the highway. I'm not trying to argue that there aren't things ford could make more ergonomical, I'm just questioning your reason for the critique. And I'll agree, the set-up in the ram is nice. Also, you spoke about GM and an 8 speed; I thought they were working on the same 10 speed gear box with ford? Ultimately would love to be able to test out these new rigs like you guys do. I'm digging how the manufacturers are all pushing each other to innovate! Aluminum and gas motor forced induction from the Oval, air ride, four corner coil over and half ton diesel from ram. Nissan is still trying so that's cool (very much not sold on their body design...) not sure what GM and Toyota will come up with in the near future but I don't imagine they will sit idle. Looking forward to your towing throw down next month.

[@JsGarage]

You can spin the tires because of all the power down low. A larger diesel pulling that weight would likely be able to lose traction too.

[@onefastboi14]

Just bought a 2.7 with the 10 speed! Need to do a video on it!

[@jorgenwu]

I'm genuinely impressed by that 2.7L. The 2015 F150 doesn't look too bad either.

[@theobrown1309]

Just got myself a very similar rig and if it is reliable long term it's definitely worth every dollar

[@jippyoo7]

F150 = The Best

[@PaulsPlace]

F150 with the 5.0=The Best

[@Castragroup]

Wisriverblue's Channel hope so

[@BrianSmith-si4zd]

Junk

[@ttwilightzzone]

WOW, that SUV overtaking them on the on ramp was a MAJOR IDIOT.

[@MyKonaRC]

Well if grandpa wasn't driving next to the shoulder....

[@paulhunter9613]

He wasn’t driving near the shoulder, he was still in the lane perhaps trying to give the idiot some room as he was breaking the law. Were you that idiot?

[@fishonalbertaoutdoors9761]

The 3.5 ecoboost kicking the crap out of the competition in pulling is no surprise to all the people that have even experienced one. Should be of no surprise then that the 2.7 would at least be on par if not also beat the other heel biters.

[@Chris-ut6eq]

This video is so old Andre might still be in school. Did not realize Mr Truck had an assistant before Andre. Lol, push button start on 'high-end' trucks, like it's a big new thing. I have 2010 cheapest version with push button start. Trucks then and now lag way behind in car interior features.

[@dchawk81]

Crazy impressive truck. Almost makes me want to voluntarily get ripped off by new vehicle pricing.

[@knightrider1545]

Now they should make 1.5L twin turbo 3 cylinder ecoboost with 4.10's stock

[@Oogiddyboogway]

They already make those they're called Honda civics

[@brucie7350]

One thing I think would be useful is if they included engine and transmission temperatures during these tests. Its one thing to put your foot to the floor and climb a hill but if your transmission is cooking at 175 degrees or the coolant temperature is like 260 degrees or more, then obviously the truck isn't up to the task.

[@hawkdaddy64]

With my above post I had a 203 degrees reading the whole way.

[@mrhvac5393]

175 is far from cooking a transmission.

[@michaelmccracken79]

Well my 16 5.0 trans run 194-205 at all times towing or not, however my 07 hd 6.0 rarely goes over 155.. I've seen 206 once but I was grossing 32k

[@andyharman3022]

I don't know how you drive your truck, Brucie, but I would back out of it when the coolant temp exceeded 220F.

[@billandalona]

I know your post is six years old but I just took my 2016 2.7 with a 2 1/2 inch leveling kit and 33’s on a 900 mile road trip with a 31 foot travel trailer. My temperatures transmission or radiator coolant never went above half I don’t have a digital reading. Thing I was most impressed about was I got 12.6 miles per gallon I was expecting 6 to 8 towing the trailer.

[@irishiz1258]

I know this is a late post with that said, my question is u say you don't favor ram but the power wagon got a 77 score up the Ike the same as the f150 2.7L. The ford did it in less time, less braking, and better gas mileage, and could have done it in a even faster time. So tell me how they both get the same score. Oh, and the fords engine is less than Half the size.

[@AD-sp5cv]

This truck is like a white guy it has a small penis but it gets hard and gets the job done !:)

[@paulhunter9613]

Sorry about your luck dude..

[@dlg5485]

Have you guys tested the 2nd gen 2.7 that came out in 2018? Ford made some pretty extensive upgrades, so it has more power and torque now. I'm curious if it tows any differently.

[@Creelyblades]

I don't think is is fair to compare diesel mpg to gas mpg without mentioning that diesel is $.50- .80 more per gallon (or about 25%). Conservatively speaking a diesel's mpg has to be 20% better to be at parity with fuel costs of the equivalent gas vehicle. The Ram turbo gets a combined rating of 22 versus the fords 20, or about 10% better. So to pay 20% more for diesel fuel to achieve a 10% mpg advantage does not make the Ram the fuel efficiency winner. In a related matter the 2.7 ecoboost is a $800 option, the eco diesel is $4200.

[@ponygt6629]

Thats true, the RAM will definitely get over 8 mpg even while towing, there is nothing surprising there, but there is 1 significant loss, POWER

[@Fordguy1997]

Lmao Roman. You just had to say "That's what she said" after "2 inches." ... Freaking hilarious On a different note, I assume that GMC Denali sneaking alongside you guys is going to appear in an Ike Gauntlet video soon? You guys should make a video that outlines all of the previous Ike Gauntlet times over the past two years and explain which ones are comparable based on trailer weight and which ones had heavier weight. I'm pretty confused on all of the different trailers that you've used and how much each weighed.

[@ThePhotographyHobbyist]

Sort of wished I had waited a little longer and got the 2015 2.7 instead of the 2014 3.5. I don't need towing capacity but the 2.7 is very impressive towing. I would have liked the newer styling and less weight/better MPG of the 2015.

[@JsGarage]

Really hard to beat an ecoboost for towing. Really impressed that a smaller gas turbo engine blows away a slightly larger diesel engine in performance anyways.

[@Fabian7024]

Just a guy that loves trucks, best job in the world.

[@bubbabusta8373]

Best idea bring the ranger stick the 2.7l in it! it would kill the gm twins.

[@brandondannys-menary3678]

Bubba busta they are all nice trucks, as long as it's American

[@madchiller1985]

Stuff stuff and More stuff define American. Tundra has 20% more domestic parts than either of GM’s trucks and is built in Texas. The Titan is built in Mississippi and it’s motor in Tennessee.

[@dansuper6103]

@@madchiller1985 Buying cars from American car companies that assemble vehicles in Mexico, still do more for the US economy and jobs than buying a foreign companys car that is assembled in the US

[@madchiller1985]

@@dansuper6103 explain how. Nissan invested in a factory in Tennessee which created 7,000 direct jobs, then another 25,000 jobs through vendors and the supply chain. If no one buys those trucks it'll cost over 30,000 US jobs, that's not including their dealer network. If you give your money to a Japanese company and they reinvest it in our economy it's good for everyone

[@willie9397]

Ranger recently took the crown as the most American made vehicle/truck

[@Johnsmith46392]

I wished they’d use this engine in the hybrid system.

[@kevinbroadway5398]

its funny driving down the road i would never think these guys are just driving around testing trucks

[@paisteplayer1040]

There are some aftermarket cat back exhausts that make the eco's sound far better than stock.

[@Molasses90]

Can't wait to see the all-new Super Duty trucks for 2016.

[@greggc8088]

I love the 2.7 Eco Boost. Repairing them and the 3V Triton added a lot of money to my 401K.

[@pathunter7003]

Nobody believes you

[@MrChevypower]

In another way. crew cabs with the longest beds make the best tow trucks, because the longer wheelbase adds stability

[@1guyin10]

It does take away some capacity though. Back in the 60's and 70's Ford made a "Camper Special" that was a long bed 3/4 ton standard cab (because almost every truck was std. cab) with the rear axle pushed back an extra foot or so. It was really surprising how much that helped with a heavy trailer behind it.

[@paulhunter9613]

I remember seeing those on the street back in the day

[@paulhunter9613]

It does make them harder to maneuver in tighter areas tho,I’m finding that out now with my 150, with stores making the slots for parking narrower for the newer nano subcompacts

[@buffalobmf]

i dont understand why they dont twin turbo the 5.0

[@theroadrunner4209]

I think it has to do with cost. Ford has been creeping away slightly from the whole V8 in general but it's still around just not the main focus. That being said a twin turbo 5.0 would be a sick af option to pick from as well.

[@MASTEROFPUPPETS238]

cuz they would have to cancel the raptor

[@buffalobmf]

@@MASTEROFPUPPETS238 put it in the raptor... what you talking about canceling it. Theyre already putting the 5.2 in it in 2022

[@ts9271]

6 years later, who knew hybrids and electric trucks would be the future

[@markp9247]

Great vid guys, impressive Ecoboost engine, looking forward to Ecodiesel!...

[@budcargeorge]

Nothing is going to beat a small turbo gas motor for the light duty trucks, most of us want acceleration and with the low HP in the diesel, it cant accelerate like a turbo gas engine that gets almost identical torque. Saving fuel is the only benefit in the diesel at a sacrifice of poor acceleration and a more expensive motor that weighs more and the fuel costs more and diesels don't heat the cab up in the cold mornings so you freeze. Ford hit this out of the park, just wish it was smaller or had 4 wheel steering, too big and cumbersome for my everyday vehicle and the front bumper is too low, should make the front bumper look like the raptor to give off road clearance.

[@seigell9500]

Raising the Bumper for Off-Road Clearance would Kill the Mileage Boost of the EcoBoost. They aren't going to Do It...

[@budcargeorge]

S Eigell They did it for the Tacoma and the Raptor, both sell well. At least make it an option, how hard would it be to offer a bumper swap out as an option. I know you are probably right though. Just a piss off. Not all of us care about saving a cup of fuel for priceless comfort and capability and stress free bumper worry. I will just keep my Tacoma but it still needs 4 wheel steering but at least it is the most nimble truck you can buy that still has comfortable off road capability that is in many cases priceless. I can afford a 40,000 dollar truck than I can afford the difference in fuel mileage, I really could care less. The F150 is just too big and cumbersome for me. However, it is still a great truck with the best motor in my opinion. But I do hate the bumper as well. Just offer the Raptor bumper as an option would be nice.

[@LarryC213]

budcargeorge I have noticed that as well. It seems that almost all the manufacturers half-ton trucks are getting larger and larger every year. They get longer, they get wider. I would love to see a 1976 Chevy half-ton pickup truck parked beside a 2015 Chevy half-ton pickup truck and it would be really interesting to measure each truck's dimensions and curb weight. My ex bought a 2006 Toyota 4Runner, I had taken our family pet to the vet one day and an older 4Runner parked right next to our 4Runner. When I was able to see the two parked next to each other it was really amazing how much larger the 2006 model was. It was huge compared to the older model. Since mileage ratings are becoming more important, I would think that they would be making something like the 4Runner the same size as it used to be.

[@budcargeorge]

LarryC213 True, and look at Ford so happily calling off the 700-Lbs they saved with the Aluminum body, yet the older half tons were even lighter. Trucks got bigger and parking lots got smaller, just doesn't work for me. I had a 2004 Denali with quadrasteer that would gladly and effortlessly park anywhere. Had a 37-ft turning radius and the 4 door Tacoma is at 44 so I still feel cumbersome trying to park it. Full size these days are just too big for the 4 door truck without 4 wheel steering. Makes lane changing with a trailer much safer and you can back a trailer with little effort New Porsche 911 has 4 wheel steer which has great benefits on the track/handling and the Acura RLX knows what a luxury option this truly is. Even serious off roaders know the advantage of 4 wheel steer, as lots modify their off road trucks to have it. But I digress, 4 wheel steer would make these trucks much more luxurious and manageable with serious advantages, especially trailering and safety at high speeds. Dropping the size down would save weight and make it much more manageable as well. Most of the time I don't need a truck that big and when I don't the benefits of smaller outweigh the benefits of larger. Fact is my Tacoma holds and tows more weight than the old 1/2 tons and is just as big.

[@kingdaniel3519]

budcargeorge The older half tons weren't just lighter, they were smaller. You have to realize that the ext cab and crew cab craze didn't really start until the late 90's. Up until then most trucks were regular cab trucks with a 6 1/2 foot bed. Sure you had the occasional ext or crew cab, maybe you could even find one with the 8" bed. The point is, they were 1/2 ton trucks, they didn't need to be that big. Now, they are cars that need seating for 6 and a 5 1/2 foot bed in the back. Honestly, when's the last time you saw a brand new regular cab truck driving down the road? It's probably been a while.

[@T0astedR0asted]

Man, you guys were hinting the new Bronco having the 2.7 right in the thumbnail

[@ericpinter29]

All those ecoboost engines use the speakers to make engine noise, so the motor does not really sound like what it does in the cab, open the door and rev it up and it eliminates the speaker noise. I watched that on this channel. Funny you didn't mention it.

[@nono7984]

Count on it taking 300 horse power of gas to get 300 horse power regardless of the displacement and as a rule of thumb results may vary.

[@MarcMonson]

the "ecodiesel" has to get better than 5.3mpg to cost less in fuel than the 2.7

[@colefakename4574]

The Highlight of this entire video 3:24 All you need to see. How will that gage screen work in -40C? I think all gages always should be needles. Aluminum costs twice the amount to repair. Tail lights run at $800 a piece. WOW!! (LEDs are great though) Glad the vents are a different shape I hated the circle vents ALOT!

[@kingdaniel3519]

I don't suppose you are using that Edmunds video for a basis of price for the tail lights are you?

[@theobrown1309]

It really does get an averagepg of 20 mpg even with a trailer very impressive compared to my 2001

[@l3arrett82]

how come yall dont try cruise control?

[@pinata-whacker4635]

I will seriously doubt that ford would screw up its bread and butter... If the f150 flops the company might need a bailout. With that said I never really heard one bad thing bout the EB & it looks like they fixed the condensing problem they had.

[@northgeorgiagaragedoor568]

What was MPG? With the Canyon you also did cabin sound. Knowing the ford cabin is quieter, how much quieter (under hard acceleration) ? And an unsolicited suggestion, when comparing similar class trucks/cars on different/separate videos, would you consider a pop-up window showing (Ike G for example) Time/MPG for each vehicle. Save me from having go back to old video and try to guess where at the end the time is to compare. Great video though

[@motorhead883_8]

Do you guys have a video with the 2019 or anyone with the 2.7 and the 10 speed?

[@danhellerjr]

I watched this video AND the one on the Dodge EcoDiesel... Of the two, I expected the Ford to get a better time but was surprised by the margin of victory. The Ecodiesel struggled the entire way at full throttle barely breaking 50, while they couldn't ever go full throttle in the Ford without breaking the speed limit. Dodge put all their eggs in the MPG basket & neutered the truck (just like GM did with the 6.2 Silverado) and made the diesel nothing but a marketing tool. Yes, the Dodge gets better fuel efficiency but unless you use it only as a people mover, that tiny diesel is silly.

[@Mattbr02]

Yeah I agree they need to do a new Ike Gauntlet with the 2018 and newer 2.7 ecoboost up and down the mountain cause it has that new 10 speed trans and more torque.

[@DanielCole]

You mentioned that the Ford had a good sound to it. I think that's because they have an artificial sound generator built in. That seems like cheating to me. Also, what kind of trailer is that. I actually just sold my 16' car hauler and that one looks like a much better replacement.

[@murmaider2]

there is a tube that goes from the intake to the cab to feed some sound in. They don't "generate" anything.

[@gabrielgagne2004]

I think they mention the trailer in their last video. Its called how to safely tow or something

[@1guyin10]

murmaider2 Only the Focus ST has the tube. Several of there other vehicles including the EcoBoost Mustang and this truck use an artificial engine note along with the sound deadening system. It is entirely "generated". Ford has taken some flak for that, but they are not remotely alone in doing so.

[@murmaider2]

1guyin10 funny how thats not true and since I've seen cold air intakes being installed both on the F-150 with the 2.3 and the mustang with the 2.3 and they both have the tube.

[@1guyin10]

Read up on it. The sound is electronically enhanced.

[@cjfields1214]

He said this thing will be a whole new error in the beginning...I'm still laughing.

[@kapuceto]

Love this new truck . My next truck for sure

[@djayt1215]

why would you be messing with the break controls on the fly anywau?

[@Mixwell1983]

And my ranger was a 3.0 v6 with 146hp and less than 200ft lb torque

[@MarcMonson]

The Fast Lane Truck next time you do an ecoboost test put a gopro in the engine bay pointed at the turbo, to see those puppies glow

[@daringdevil101]

FAST LANE TRUCK, I heard you guys saying that the Ram gets better mileage with the ecodiesel which is what diesels are known for. But my question is, does the ecodiesel get good enough mpg to outweigh the price difference between gasoline (mpg for the f-150) and diesel???

[@ADS_DIECAST]

I like the new v6 in the f150 and even better it actually sounds like a turbo grand national

[@darrinallison9866]

Wish you guys would tell people about the the new oil change cost on the Ram 3.0D and the Chevy 5.3.

[@takayama1638]

Well today is 1/16/18, 2.7, aluminum bodies have proven themselves. Same as my 1953 aluminum boat. Rocks, salt water, swamps, lakes, rivers, sand, mud, nothing has stopped my aluminum boat and still nary a leak. UPS knows value of aluminum bodies.

[@Tom-ic7hw]

it 2023 I would love to see you drive that same truck again

[@brandonmcfarland5200]

If You Wanted To Tow 7000 LBS Going Up The Hill,The 2.7L EcoBoost V6 Is For You,Because It's A Lot More Fun.

[@robertthomas2942]

Yes, the technology is great, and much of it is mandatory due to EPA regs. But, and its a big one, how durable will these engines prove to be? Any V8 from the mid 90s to mid 00s will last at least 200K with minimal maintenance. They don't cost much to own but yes they use more gas. This 2.7 has how many cams? Valves? Turbos? etc? For the person who owns for 5 years, trades in and doesn't work the truck too hard this will be fine, probably. For the people who buy used and drive them into the ground, not so much. Wait until you get the bill for replacement turbos and out of warranty. Lots of trucks will be junked in the future simply due to cost of repairs. The more metal there is spinning the more expensive things are.

[@recyclespinning9839]

Yuppers.

[@paulhunter9613]

That old five oh you are talking about is nowhere near the one that’s in the new fords, it’s totally different

[@robertthomas2942]

@@paulhunter9613 And your point is? More components spinning, being stressed and wearing is still going to happen. This will only cost more to fix. More vehicles will be junked simply due to cost of repairs. I run a fleet of vehicles, this isn't just an opinion, it's a fact.

[@downdirtydiesels1172]

I just noticed they don't have the metal front on the trailer. When they compared to the ecodiesel it was on the trailer. That's not fair, it's like roofing on a windy day. Your trying to stay on the roof, that's a lot of resistance on the poor ram. Plus they say 7200lbs, but really the ram is the only one doing 7200.

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

I don't care about power, weight etc., the Bronco still looks a thousand times better than the F-150

[@k3v015Mk]

Good towing test guys. 2.7 is definitely a beast.

[@noahvargas3324]

I like that it is essentially a 2 door with those 2 little doors than a full size 4 door

[@Spaude123]

i'm sure the twin turbos help alot. put twin turbos in the ecodiesel and it would fly up the mountain!

[@MarcMonson]

the ecodiesel is already turbo charged. yeah it may have a little more lag than twins but on that long of a test it is negligible

[@ponygt6629]

2x times weight up front and 2x more complexity 2, diesels are more complicated and due 2 emissions trouble gas wins, and gas is cheaper 2

[@dezmonasg6708]

Hey guys ,one thing I did notice is that the ford 2.7 eco bust is noticeably louder than the 3.0 l ram going up the Ike ,the engine noise was noticeable

[@paulhunter9613]

Did you notice the 2.7 is a gas engine and the 3.0 is a diesel? Perhaps your whining complaint about that, you could contact ford

[@3rdGenGuy]

My issue is a 2.7L pushed with 17psi is not gonna have a long life under that stress. that chevy 6.2L for 4.3mpg that 2.7L got 4.3mpg with a lighter payload.

[@snaketech470]

we don't need trucks with turbos or eco theres no point in witch is faster at towing as longest they all get the job done i think all trucks should be v8s with no aluminum and no turbo if you need heavier duty trucks then go super duty or heavy duty

[@MarcMonson]

clearly you havent seen any of the engine durability tests ford shows, and frankly ford is the only one one who is confident enough to publish these. also, diesel engines push more than 17psi, and guess what the block is made of the same strong material that the powerstroke and ecodiesel blocks are made out of.

[@3rdGenGuy]

Marc Monson ford scored very low in JD power and consumer reports. Mainly for Eco boost failures. The ford 5.0 has 1/2 the failure rate.

[@kingdaniel3519]

PC Master Race I would be interested in seeing that in writing where it's scored low because of the EcoBoost. Everything I have ever read attributed Ford's low score to their infotainment issues. Links please.

[@3rdGenGuy]

Daniel Bell Eco boost: twice the failure rate vs Ford's 5.0 No way my touch alone made ford score so low in reliability,

[@andyharman3022]

I love how they climbed the hill with the engine at 3500 rpm all the way. The turbos give the engine great mid-range torque, and it's not necessary to buzz the engine at 5000 rpm all the way like they have to do on the N/A engines. Much more pleasurable to drive, and easier on the engine.

[@Kmecha84]

How is it easier on the engine? A 5.0 revs but it loves to rev and the factory rev limiter is conservative at best. The EcoBoost engines have lower rpm but tons of boost to make that kind of power down low

[@paulhunter9613]

@@Kmecha84 yup, torque down low, the way to build a truck

[@andrewe.7907]

Any update to 2023??? And I know this tunnel very well. did you go over vail pass??

[@Brian-ff7tw]

It's kinda funny seeing them debate V6 turbos vs. Baby diesels, vs. V8 with cylinder deactivation with no mention of electrics in sight...

[@Mebob2001]

so re-test the chev 5.3l on this since there both in the same class, and also retest the 6.2l with 8 speed, put more weight on the trailer

[@StarWars5691]

Was he bashing ram at the end for having the hockey puck transmission switch ? If so it seems like if he has a chance to do so he will say something bad about ram.

[@noblekitty]

He's not alone. There are many on going discussion about Ram using a round button for transmission switch, especially when there is a 4x4 button next to it with the same shape. I think GM also has this problem between their head light knob vs the 4x4 knob, both very similar.

[@Treyk901]

SB N could you imagine trying to switch your 4x4 off and you accidentally switch the truck to park? Yikes.

[@MrAc550]

Trey K its impossible as with the eight speed shifter in my ram sport the 4wd switch is push button under the rotary dial

[@chefdan87]

Trey K Im sure the ram has a lockout where it is not possible to shift it into park while traveling at speed. I still do not understand why you would want a gear selector as a electric dial instead of a traditional lever. Same with electronic 4wd selection instead of a floor mounted shifter. Same goes with auto locking hubs. Whats wrong with the old school mechanical equipment? It works perfectly fine and tends to be far more reliable than this electrical stuff. Are people that lazy now a days they cant manually shift or lock their hubs? I understand the convenience of the 4wd but really...... really?

[@longlivethe80s]

Have you guys thought of doing a test with truck campers up the gauntlet?

[@Brock_Landers]

Now, I have a 2014 Ram 3500 single rear tire and the brake control in at the bottom of the center stack in the middle, do any of the other Ram models have them placed elsewhere? Also, my truck's GVWR is 12,500 and I am always pulling gooseneck trailers that have a GVWR in the neighborhood of 25,000 lbs and the truck pulls it just fine, the suspension is a different story but the Cummins is one of the best diesels ever made. I did tow a 26,000 lb gooseneck today with my other truck, a 2015 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 with the Duramax and it handled the trailer better than my Ram did. Suspension and power. Even accelerated much quicker with the trailer.

[@jtjtrs8806]

Good Looking truck , its good that ford gives people several engine choices fuel economy is my priority due to my long distance working sites , so v6 is my choice .

[@paulhunter9613]

That’s just the very reason that I went from owning dodges all my life to a ford. Dodge gives you a choice of an anemic low torque v6 and next choice is a gas sucking Hemi. That’s why I got rid of my ‘98 dodge, it got 11/18 all the time. But that dodge was the best reliable truck I ever drove