"That Business Had No Chance Unless You'd Done That Deal" | Dragons' Den

James Dawson, Founder of Tea+ Drinks, a vitamin-infused tea brand. He is seeking an investment of £75,000 in exchange for 10% of his company.
Season 15, Episode 12
An international sensation, Dragon's Den features entrepreneurs pitching for investment in the Den from our Dragons, five venture capitalists willing to invest their own money in exchange for equity.
#DragonsDen #Vitamins #Tea

[@mateuszg6042]

Jenny is the kind of person that gives an offer for half of the money, while every other dragon is already out...

[@BenjaminGoose]

Give "is" an offer? What?

[@sarahreynolds308]

The next Who Wants to be a Millionaire final Q will be "how many times has Jenny made an offer?"

[@moogleking]

She's playing 4d chess, she wants the entrepreneur to say no to her offer

[@Smithy67]

Ridiculous

[@paulstannard7985]

She got tired of saying "I'm out" !!

[@hugoschkiglitz]

I love how Tej gave a bad vibe to flush out all the other dragons, and once he had a monopoly he went for the jugular on the shares 😂

[@JeremiahEcks777]

Peter admitted he himself does that quite often and you kind of see it.

[@aaronhurst4379]

@@JeremiahEcks777 Where did he say that, out of interest?

[@ArcaneAnouki]

@@aaronhurst4379 he's mentioned before that he's withheld judgement after a fellow dragon gives a scathing report to see if they're being "cleverly tactical" with their feedback

[@thegodcalzs]

@@aaronhurst4379 it’s very common, if you even pay attention some episodes, where Peter knows he isn’t going to invest (but knows Deborah wants to, or visa versa) he just trash talks the crap out of the business, so the entrepreneurs feel lucky to even get an offer from someone.

[@Mike-jl2kp]

@@JeremiahEcks777 I was just going to say that Peter often does that, leaves the offer until the end after everyone is out and wants 3-4 times what was offered.

[@factologyprofessor2869]

Jenny wanted to say she’s out and Peter told her she’s a dragon and she made an offer for half. Like she wanted the cameraman to offer the other half😂😂

[@WiseEyes313]

😂😂😂

[@djpeekay25]

Yes spot on 😂

[@hiluxjase6665]

Yep. That’s how I read it. I used to read some of these Jenny comments and take them with a grain of salt, HOWEVER, I’ve been watching this show for awhile now and I’ve not yet seen Jenny ever win a deal, SO ON THAT BASIS I feel she doesn’t actually try to win any deals. Making up the dragon numbers maybe?? Producers invited her on the show and she thought she may get more of a celebrity status and recognition. Maybe.. I don’t live in northern England so don’t know but it’s obvious Peter and others get frustrated with her. At least the others try and look for a good deal. What can I say…I’m like all the other Jenny commentators now and I can’t not agree with them. Jenny: “what lame excuse can I come up with for this entrepreneur? Hmm let me think. “

[@BDogs10]

yes, it was a bit awkward 😂

[@michaelleacy]

She made a completely pointless offer which she knew would never be accepted

[@greghunt6522]

Even Peter rolls his eyes at Jenny when saying come on Jenny you’re a dragon. Can tell he’s sick of her I’m outs.

[@kasistories]

She gives no constructive advices to entrepreneurs, she has no valid reasons for being out, she has no charisma and she is too serious. The producers must out her for good

[@TheManInBlueFlames]

What about Kelly Hoppen?

[@Locutus]

@@kasistories Feel free to apply to be a dragon on the show, and invest your own money. I'm sure with your business experience, and money from that, you would be able to do better than Jenny.

[@scienceevolves4417]

About bloody time he got sick of Jenny given she's left the show 3 series ago!

[@jcaesar19871]

@@kasistories I need to actually watch the show, instead of just these clips to get it, but like, yeah. Why is she here? lol

[@GodotOfficial]

“C’mon Jenny, you’re a dragon” Later that day, Peter’s corpse was found floating in the Thames with the words “I’m out” scrawled all over it

[@Retzii_]

LOOOOOOL

[@AZ-bm3ki]

Hahaha

[@abdelrahmanelsheikh5798]

More like "you are out" 😂

[@AbhishekSanyalTGV]

😂😂😂

[@griswolds6182]

LMAO

[@atomato5378]

Lmao that's the first time I've heard any of em call out Jenny, "cmon Jenny you're a dragon"

[@76-UVB]

That seemed to rub her the wrong way

[@atomato5378]

I bet they made fun of her soooooooo much I mean its hilarious how much of a meme she is. I've watched like 200 of these videos and I remeber her making one deal and mabey 3 offers, but I couldn't name any of em.

[@colmwhateveryoulike3240]

Yeah but it was a bit rich since he was already out, no?

[@colmwhateveryoulike3240]

@Travel Crawl Ah maybe. Bit churlish.

[@johncasey7141]

God... did Jenny EVER actually invest on the show lol

[@Uvray]

Jenny so transparently just made an offer that wasn't going to get taken because the truth was... She was out. Pathetic.

[@callum9999]

Yes. KZbin's bizarre vendetta against her is indeed pathetic.

[@tomekk.1889]

​@@callum9999Congratulations you missed the entire point of the comment you thought wad agreeing with you. Brilliant

[@mohammedpanju2236]

JENNY : I'll offer you HALF of the money, but I want 99% of the business.

[@brandonvernet]

Looool Tej said no to Jenny in the most professional way.

[@Billy_B]

Never ask them to negotiate against themselves, you gotta suggest something. Tej probably would have accepted dropping to 35% when he got his money back

[@jim077]

i don’t think he would have due to him believing that it would be the work of his and his company that helps him achieve his targets.

[@WiseEyes313]

Good point

[@debyaka]

Back when the dragons dared to shake peoples hands upon concluding a deal.

[@jaylondon283]

It’s the bbc…

[@M4nvrs]

Jenny's gotten good... She makes an offer and doesn't make an offer at the same time!

[@scienceevolves4417]

It could be said she's cracked the system 🤣

[@michaelleacy]

The most useless offer ever

[@Howlox]

Lmao! The way Peter called out Jenny

[@gideonMorrison]

Hagrid to little Jenny: You're a dragon, Jenny!

[@milosradusinovic5796]

Tej is one of if not the best dragon for me man.

[@Locutus]

Didn't you complain last month about the dragons taking 45% of a baby business...? That included Tej in that 3 way deal.

[@doctorpanigrahi9975]

@@Locutus I want 100 percent of your business and your wife.

[@youngma5296]

@@Locutus 😅

[@drewb1263]

My man smashed you with this historic comment tracking over time tee he he

[@MultiAfag]

@@drewb1263😂😂

[@jarednil69]

Tej's offer sounded like a death sentence! "I'll have to take FIFTY PERCENT!😡"

[@MF_JONES]

Jenny: "I'll give you half of the money for 110% of the business" "Ummm... That's literally not possible" Jenny: "well I guess you leave me no choice, I'm out"

[@mycroftsanchez901]

What was the point of Jenny's offer? In fact what's the point of having Jenny in the den?

[@SunniAthari]

Jenny found a way to put a offer while knowing she is out

[@gravelboycauty]

Jenny: "I see a lot of value in your business. For that reason, I'm out"

[@ranolakb2b]

I feel incredibly happy when I see a deal is done. Don't know if thats a good thing cos I get that feeling regardless of the equity offered.

[@originalrenigade]

Jenny is comedy gold. 😂😂

[@JJJnl]

This dude saved his company by taking the 50% deal , and was also his only option , if he did not take it this company be gone

[@ossiaigbedo7223]

50% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

[@yowhaatsup]

Han- Tokyo drift

[@SiriusMined]

Vitamin water has the same issue in that the vitamins have to be water soluble, and that doesn't stop people from buying Vitamin Water

[@b-dogs1038]

I think the guy had to accept. Let’s face it , Tej could easily produce a vitamin infused tea

[@abdelrahmanelsheikh5798]

Still, big players are always concerned about new entrants into the market. I think they just intend to buy them out and put them out of business.

[@Stat_Guy]

11:14 Nice one Peter haha.

[@WattzOrJerk]

Jenny was out when he said "Hello"

[@closetome]

Probably the high valuation turned them off! Perhaps he could call Rory and get some seaweed in that tea

[@RockyDave]

Including Brian's figures?

[@b-dogs1038]

rrr, & some Fisherman’s friends ,rrr

[@iamlegend68]

Why is Jenny even on this show ? 99% of the time she's finding reasons not to invest.

[@HairyRichard-bd8rv]

That’s exactly why she is on the show and we are not

[@hugoschkiglitz]

@@HairyRichard-bd8rv 😂😂😂 what? What about the other 4 dragons who invest?

[@RockyDave]

Vitamin tea... Happy days for Evan and his puns!

[@rachmadsuhartono]

Tej is calm and quiet but greedy. 30% - 40% is more than enough

[@kasistories]

50% of a profitable company is better than 100% of a dead company. If that entrepreneur was partnering with his friend, cousin or somebody he knows he'd probably give them 50% even if they were going to fail. Tej is a calculated man, he knows what he's doing

[@dachronicalalittlebitofeve6630]

It’s better to a small slice of something big than to have a big slice of something small.

[@Stebo1212]

I love how he says the package is bad yet his company packet is horrible and would never touch them lol

[@ceeceepenington7320]

The eye rolling and looks towards Jenny at the end. Its so obvious that no one can stand her.

[@jaylondon283]

The eye roll was cut an edited into it (probably from a completly different pitch) purely to media shame her for our entertainment! Great stuff from the proudcution team 🤣

[@ianlister7333]

Jenny had her hand forced, so had to make some sort of an offer, but knows Tej does not need another Dragon.

[@longq5198]

I'm glad for James. I hope and Tej and James are successful. Not a tea drinker but would definitely try it to get some vitamins supplements.

[@thegodcalzs]

Even when Jenny makes an offer, it’s not even a valid offer. Lol

[@david9180]

Jenny wakes up in the middle of the night to see if she has lost any sleep 🤔

[@BachTantra]

Wouldn’t mind trying a vitamin tea ☕️

[@royfr8136]

I guess she and peter had a lover's tiff before the show.

[@royfr8136]

@Travel Crawl they have definitely dunked a biscuit in some hot tea. Both ends and both teas

[@xx8575]

@Travel Crawl Idk I’m not convinced 😂😂

[@aqqq4097]

I dont care what anyone says . This guy won big time . Do you realize what he just got ? He went from a no name brand to freebiotics meaning instantly got millions of advertising cash poured into the business. Wow

[@abdelrahmanelsheikh5798]

How is he doing now?

[@aqqq4097]

From what I can see, they r still active under vitabiotics. I guess it's going fine since they have been active since 2014 .

[@Bor-Time]

Lol, Jenny got flustered by Peter's comment and responded with a non-bid. What a total bs offer, 100% guarantee that offer would be declined.

[@jochenheiden]

Dang, even Peter talking trash about Jenny.

[@gamewithadam7235]

Jenny undercut Tej for no reason lol.

[@shyruu2]

I feel like the best way to get Deb convinced to invest IF she disagrees with peter lmfao. not a pitch, not a product, a disagreement

[@00Kuja00]

Vitamin C is really difficult to keep in the body. You have to drink it in small doses all day if you want a real effect.

[@professork451]

Jenny: “Tea ya later.” 😂

[@murilogoulart4935]

Indeed, Peter, the magic of Dragon's Den.

[@spoonerstreet32]

Time to find out which of the dragons have been unusually quiet today.

[@ianhackettjunior198]

Uploaded just in time for dinner!

[@Scampi95]

Love it when that happens haha

[@paulchambers2379]

Jenny makes u laugh. Worst dragon ever. U could have a company that turns over a million a year and ask for 10k for 90% of the business and she'd still think its too much work and too high risk and then offer 5k for 50% of the business 😂

[@akaskinz1856]

It's about profit not turnover!

[@techtitanuk5609]

Vitamin c gets destroyed in heat

[@willdavies6197]

Happy for James

[@_incogni_]

Jenny: You've come into the den to seek investment from the dragons, *dramatic pause* and for that reason, *Close up of the business owner - long pause* i'm out."

[@tazmax2513]

Don Carlo's eye brows

[@namrofni6236]

Surely the boiling water will destroy the vitamins

[@stoosam3244]

Excellent comeback from Jenny

[@jellybaby9630]

Says He

[@kasistories]

whets excellent about a pointless "says he", are you Jenny's granddaughter?

[@Soumyadip_Pal]

@@kasistories That "says he" was said by Jenny at 11:17 😆

[@stoosam3244]

Someone needs it spelt out...ok... pj chides jenny when he himself has gone 'out'. Jenny therefore, neatly, points out his double standard. Jenny is a multimillionaire, and not for no reason. She offered and won the 'utility swap' business after negotiating a fraction of a percentage.

[@IrhaSiAl]

Did I hear supercharged chaa😂

[@76-UVB]

0:34 or in other words it is not tea it is a beverage.

[@djjayrex]

The day Peter Jones eggs on “I’m out” Jenny

[@Ali-Najafi7]

First time Jenny didn’t say “I’m out”

[@jellybaby9630]

Jenny "Says He" Only 10% understand

[@jessebella9322]

Jenny: What's free? It doesn't matter really but it's nice to get something before i am out

[@Majormoose1]

So how much does Peter hate jenny then 😂

[@dac8939]

Caffeine is not Good for absorbing vitamins so best not taken with Coffee or tea. Reason why has not been done before

[@adrianhynes1448]

Jenny: best business, we'll make a lot of money. But for that reason I'm out.

[@dollydiddums7889]

I thought Jenny was going to say I'm out , then I realised that was what she said .

[@dachronicalalittlebitofeve6630]

It’s bought his house and car, fancy holiday, and he’s ran at a loss to not pay tax and to get himself a refund, I know he’s taken wages of around 150k a year 😂

[@Finderskeepers.]

while you ignore the fact that company tax is less than personal tax and seem to believe that HRMC fund losses with rebates. Try starting your own company before you start running down those that have.

[@saristaa1]

*Compared to the USA "Shark Tank," all the successful dragons are so much nicer and more respectful when they refuse. It's shocking.*

[@AbhishekSanyalTGV]

Depends on what the producers want, bro. I find Dragon's Den to be more professional and the negotiations sound like a proper business meeting. Shark Tank, while being the same concept, is more casual. It's like the difference between Master Chef US and Master Chef Australia

[@peterd788]

Quite frankly, it would have been a good deal if Tej said "give me 10 grand and I'll take 50% of your company."

[@derekm3180]

Yeah, I'm not seeing the appeal of this company at all. I take a multivitamin and a D supplement for immunity, and I like my tea black, thanks.

[@namrofni6236]

@@derekm3180 I agree and not only that but I'm pretty sure the boiling water would destroy the vitamins anyway.

[@cekojuna6930]

@@namrofni6236 Pretty sure you gotta have hot water and not a boiling one. That’s a basic mistake since it’s just mostly done on instant tea and not proper tea.

[@The_Lone_Wanderer_101]

Jenny offering half after being told no one wants to share 😂😂😂 did she go full fish brain

[@Pobsta-de7hb]

Get the glass out of your pocket ffs Jenny, the drink is the free sample, you cant keep the glass

[@dannyholmes5156]

Half the money with who Jenny? What a waste of space this woman is

[@markg9765]

VITAMIN T.

[@brotherzeff2885]

Brilliant

[@EnJayMelbourne]

48% is one thing but 50% is too close to control. That's a financially dangerous deal he just did. I would've insisted on 48% or walked away. That deal is far too risky. It shows how desperate people get though. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@cl4231]

No 49%. Weird

[@ahh1180]

Jenny drinks Bushells tea and for that reason she’s only 50% in and 150% out

[@bobstirling6885]

Peter got out of bed the wrong side....

[@danielbriggs7110]

Needed to be said though.. she's there just for the camera tbh 😅

[@joemama1691]

50%!! Is way toooo much. So predatory on a desperate person.

[@jamnoise72]

Tej fkd them up!! hahah

[@BDogs10]

Imagine your mother in law is: Jenny Campbell

[@armyfam605]

Jenny is and has always been the worse dragon ever 🤪

[@Firedancer100]

Ethereum 👍

[@jonathan0834]

20:10 😂 Peter

[@MuzzyBarker]

I really wonder why Jenny joined this show.

[@Hunter88993]

For the free samples and for the free water.

[@ianoliver7271]

Daily robbery on behalf of Tej the Hedge!

[@davidmcloughlin6547]

I know Jenny is a bit of a meme and does actually make some offers but that one was absolutely pathetic. Half the amount and for less equity than the only other dragon left had already offered? Trying to save face with u ridiculous offer she knew would never be accepted.

[@somethingtrue2161]

I would have given all of the money for 30% of the business.

[@jessebella9322]

Jenny can start her own market with freebie stuff she got over the years lol "Jennys bits and bobs"

[@KarrierBag]

Cannot stand tea, I prefer a very strong real fresh coffee.....

[@jasonm4332]

you CANNOT place vitamins in tea

[@markdraycott3974]

Why would he need her? 😂

[@JenLuvsHorror]

Jenny's offer doesn't even make any sense 🙄

[@truthteller6161]

Jenny should really just go home !! Why does she have a seat when there is a lot of stronger people to actively take her place.

[@dave24-73]

Jenny makes an offer to pretend she is interested, but her tag line is always I’m out so no real surprise here. Not even sure why she is on this show.

[@kasistories]

Thank you Peter, no harm intended but Jenny must make up her mind because she is wasting so much entrepreneurs time and she has no charisma, she must out herself for good

[@benslade9826]

Even peters had enough of jenny

[@Squoggs]

James really said 🤨

[@BenjaminGoose]

James really said what?

[@jakecooper5855]

This guy seemed smart until he asked Tej for a ratchet deal on the equity. Tej is offering to co brand and put his marketing weight behind the product, which is the only chance it could have had success. Meeting the revenue goals will be driven by Tej, not anything the business owner will have a sway over.