Obsessing Over Roommate Until He Does the Unthinkable

In 2013, US Army Veteran Maribel Ramos suddenly vanished. Life had been going so well for her at the time, and her disappearance seemed inexplicable. However, when a close friend started commenting on a Yelp thread, he may have said a little too much.
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[@Igc2898]

This is my aunt, thank you so much for raising awareness and keeping her story alive. It has been hard for her to not be here with my mom Lucy and I but time heals 🙏🏻❤️

[@franzkafka4046]

This WAS your aunt.

[@Igc2898]

@@franzkafka4046 yes

[@tessalexander4569]

so sorry for your loss, she seems like she was an amazing woman.

[@seemsgood85]

So sorry for your loss.

[@wisdomseeker3362]

@@franzkafka4046 You're rude. You know what the young lady meant.

[@lindseylane7181]

The zoom on the "gooo" really elevated the regular "have a gooo"

[@ThatChapter]

Needed to spice it up

[@lindseylane7181]

@@ThatChapter😏🌶 nicely done.

[@susanhughan2198]

@@ThatChapter You’re so good to us 😉

[@dancurtis8476]

I enjoyed this

[@SamanthaMagdalena]

@@ThatChapter very spicy

[@destinylove2193]

This woman survived two tours in iraq, just to be killed by some sick bastard on her own soil. Such a sad event to take place, I feel for her family and TRUE friends

[@Oudeis000]

What a stark contrast in portraits of selflessness and selfishness. Maribel took care of her siblings; served her country bravely with two tours of duty in Iraq; and offered friendship to someone who had no one; in contrast, KC responded to her kindness with possessive obsession and violently robbed her of her life when he failed to meet his obligations as a roommate. Not only does KC himself contribute nothing to society, but he also deprived society of someone who gave so much.

[@briannacross6014]

The fact that he was wearing her dog tags when they arrested him.....disturbing.

[@travisgartside409]

Fucking right!?

[@NASkeywest]

He want to keep her close to him.

[@jimmyzhao2673]

@@NASkeywest Right. That's why even after the fact he kept googling the location of her body.

[@harborcree]

A trophy killer. Disgusting. He deserves to rot in hell.

[@sigaries4062]

Indeed, the fact that he knew what happened to her and by wearing her tags, it was his way of accepting what he did and holding on to her at the same time.

[@mrgerman9652]

i like how he said to the police "somebody always comes back to the crime scene or whatever" and that was exactly how he was caught.

[@MDCxThePG]

What made him search the location and zoom in on it? I just don't get how he could be that stupid. What did he gain by doing that?

[@mrgerman9652]

@@MDCxThePG i would like to know that too. It doesn't make sense.

[@LilKingler]

@@MDCxThePG probably sick satisfaction in reliving the crime or moments he shared with her, but idk, I'm just an armchair detective..

[@RemmySkye]

I think he had to be thinking the view was real time or close to real time so that he was looking to see if the scene had been discovered or messed with not to mention they say killers often revisit the places they dispose of victims. I think Ted Bundy was well known for that

[@roberth9253]

@@MDCxThePG They were doing a search in the area... it was well known throughout Orange that volunteers were searching around that area and he was checking to see how close the search was to the area he put her body.

[@lj7169]

"Where did you get all these scratches?" "Fishing" "Fishing?" "Fishing lines" "Fishing lines?" "A dog" "A dog?" "Fishing for dogs"

[@Sam-go3mb]

Should I make the joke....nah....

[@CalloftheBlademaster]

@@Sam-go3mb What joke do ya mean? How about you tell me over some nice dog soup?

[@simoncullum5019]

Dogfish ?

[@Caramelynx23]

😭😂😭😂😭

[@CIA_Killed_JFK]

Let me explain...

[@madisonjackson9775]

The comment section is the best part of these videos 😭😭 I come straight here

[@chickwitthagoodies]

Same

[@eddievaliant8956]

The kind of dude that kills his roommate then goes to her room, goes through her stuff, smells her clothes, reads her personal effects and then puts her dog tags on.

[@ILoooooveCamels]

Why is this so specific

[@iambored678]

Eddie Valiant! How's Roger doing?

[@eddievaliant8956]

Oh stooooop it. Rogers laying off the booze as usual. P-p-p-p-p-please Eddie!

[@I.KUchiha]

@@ILoooooveCamels Because thats something he’d probably did

[@ILoooooveCamels]

@@I.KUchiha "...and then he probably wrote 'Eddie Valiant was here' on the mirror with his weenie"

[@bcpr9812]

"I miss Maribel more than anyone" The arrogance, to assert this when she had a whole actual family who loved her and suffered actual grief.

[@PEPPERS777]

Yeah, who could imagine such arrogance coming from a murderer?

[@hurpaderpp]

I mean she clearly was in a relationship with the guy and using him. then she wanted to just break it off. this was a crime of passion. ( can you tell im a lawyer? )

[@ssa3913]

@@hurpaderpp Nothing clear about the relationship bit actually, if anything, sounds like he was obsessed and she wasn't interested, even afraid. And how was she using him? 🤔

[@hurpaderpp]

@@ssa3913 no evidence in this video maybe. She was 100% using this guy for money or sleeping with him for money. I’ve seen it a million times. She didn’t deserve to die but you reap what you sow 🤷🏻‍♂️ you don’t get murdered for singing too loud in church

[@revolution2405]

I actually thought the same thing. If not that, then she was definitely leading him on. I mean, she let's him go out with her, takes "boyfriend" type pictures with him.. Yeah, she was using him

[@user-cc8xe6ko7j]

KC Joy is actually from Korea not China. When this came out, the Korean community in OC and the entire U.S. was mortified. We still feel a sense of shame whenever we hear about the terrible suffering his crime is causing. RIP Maribel.

[@wisdomleader85]

That clears my confusion since I know Joy is not a Chinese last name. Thanks.

[@relaxingsolfeggio]

@@wisdomleader85 Joy isn't a Korean last name either. I presume it's either Kwang or Cho, both of which can be Korean last names.

[@InvictumLupus]

Koreans shouldn’t feel bad. We know bad people exist in any race. It’s just a tragic story for all.

[@gtisolutions6709]

Choi is a common Korean last name.

[@tapsars7911]

So honorable , so very decent and humane of your Korean community to feel shame because KC Joy certainly had none . People who are evil bring shame to their entire community and to humanity at large .

[@DarkboyDranzer]

Can we all just take a minute to congratulate the one guy on Yelp who noticed the main suspect was using past tense and called him out like it was a game of among us

[@Wyatt_Riley]

Seriously though. That woman who called him out all patronizingly for "speculating" was just insufferable

[@daviddavidson2357]

@@Wyatt_Riley It was speculating. He was speaking in broken English. He used both past and present tense in that post. Guess what, the police did their job and secured a conviction, no neckbearded fedora wearing Internet sleuth required.

[@kittykat8177]

@@Wyatt_Riley no

[@Dante3214]

I agree with the woman's sentiment, it is supposed to be innocent before proven guilty after all. That being said, the guy who called him out does deserve credit. You do have to be sharp and critical enough to catch that (or at least knowledgeable of true crime stuff).

[@onaematopia]

Sus 😂

[@IAmAlteringTheDeal]

The fact that the investigators weren't already watching his every move is insane. The 911 call and the yelp posts scream guilty.

[@DJVIIIMan]

Referring to her in the past tense was a dead giveaway. I would have said something about that bit too.

[@nozoto]

He was obviously looking for attention, googling anything in relation to Ramos and plugging himself in the convo, a red alarm sign when you combine it with the other elements.

[@mrs.schmenkman]

I guarantee they were were monitoring him. Those comments would help nothing in a court case. They needed a lot more than that.

[@contourgraphics6655]

@@mrs.schmenkman Yes and could be explained by English not being his native language.

[@mrs.schmenkman]

Tony Ortega No, he's saying it was a red flag he was guilty of something - not that it was innocent searching

[@alexandranaughton7408]

It's amazing to me how little weight was given to Maribel's preemptive 911 call where she basically said 'if anything happens to me, it's because of KC'

[@katiec4947]

My thoughts exactly.

[@miafarrin7919]

I was thinking of this as well!

[@foxheidelberg]

I was thinking that halfway through this! What about her phone call, why aren't they asking him about that?

[@kos2932]

That's because you don't understand how law works. I can call police now and say if anything happens it's Alexandra Naughton who did it. See how easy that is? I can them commit suicide. It's called criminal process. You don't just assume everything. You have to prove it. Read a book FFS.

[@miafarrin7919]

@@kos2932 that’s just a tad harsh don’t ya think? It could help describe a history of bad behavior or something. It’s not the only thing obviously, but it helps to paint the picture of a person. None of us said convict on this alone. Why so rough, it doesn’t make sense?

[@perriconlan8959]

'Maybe I'll just die in prison ' That'll do for me. RIP Maribel.

[@Robloxside]

It really irks me that he keeps saying how he misses her more than anyone....what a slap in the face to her family and other loved ones who genuinely cared for and miss her.

[@yellowmonkee0]

"On the turd of may, twenty turdteen...". My favourite sentence ever.

[@meliapo1367]

Love him 😂

[@chriseffpunkt4333]

@@meliapo1367 weirdly enough he can speak the th perfectly when not talking about numbers. Is he disabled or something?

[@rigormortis3138]

@@chriseffpunkt4333 pretty sure hes just british.

[@transient442]

@@chriseffpunkt4333 Scottish people don’t pronounce the H.. No, it’s not wrong like you were implicating, it’s the way it’s supposed to be pronounced with that accent. When I hear Americans talk I hear a lot of words that are said “wrong” because what I know as correct pronunciation is different than yours.

[@ArtificialFertilizer]

Dude's just Irish. He likes his turds.

[@sheffieldamanda]

Poor Maribel, she opened up her home & offered him friendship, she seemed like a lovely person. RIP 💜

[@jiyu5990]

Note for all women: you do not open your house to strange men, or are too open with them.

[@staceyann1180]

Seriously... It makes me so sad that a heroic young woman who seemed to have worked so hard to make a nice life for herself... Opened her home to a man and welcomed him into her life when few else, if any, would... It's awful. She deserved much better. My heart goes out to her family and true friends, who I'm certain love and miss her far more than that horrid excuse for a roommate ever does.

[@dascorncakes1151]

Never let people you don't know in your house, meet in public. also worst rent agreement ever.

[@staceyann1180]

@@jiyu5990 You're not wrong... I've had two awful experiences letting the wrong people in my life. But they're not always men! One of the worst experiences I've had was with another woman. It doesn't hurt to be extra careful whom we let into our homes and hearts....

[@DAndyLord]

@@staceyann1180 Yeah, I don't think we should paint all men like that. I've been hurt by both men and women in my days.

[@nessie7377]

this is why i will NEVER have roommates again.

[@pyronite59]

Some of those pictures look like ones that you’d take with your boyfriend/girlfriend, so this older weirdo misinterprets the situation, becomes obsessed with her, and setting things in motion that ultimately results in this weirdo taking the poor girl’s life. I don’t think moving in a financially unstable single male foreigner who was her senior by 20+ years and taking on the role of his “BFF” was a good idea in hindsight.

[@snow84917]

He was obsessed with her, he didn't love her. You don't do that to someone you love..

[@lisasim]

YES! People don't get that. Once a friend told me that he was obsessed with another woman and he thought that I was jealous. He was very surprised and insulted when I told him that I need him obsessing over me, like I need a migraine. I truly can't understand how obsession or jealousy are considered as signs of love. They're not!

[@headphonic8]

Love is just brain chemicals. There’s no set definition of it. Insane people do insane things all the time because they feel love.

[@nixie6077]

@@headphonic8 I agree with you. To them, it is just as real as to someone healthy and balanced falling in love. But because they're toxic, the love they give is toxic, too.

[@stevenhair3250]

@@headphonic8 you must be one of the crazies

[@Sparooga]

I don't think he did it. Why would he look up the location of the body on the library computer after burying it? He would already know where it was. And apart from that, there's no evidence.

[@keithdevlin1]

Kwang: "...so I was watching the house with my binoculars because I know the perpetrator often returns to the scene of their crime." Detective: "Yeah. *YOU!!!* "

[@shannonjackson9778]

Shouldn't that have been a huge red flag for the cops since the house wasn't even considered a crime scene at that stage, especially since she "never came home"

[@butHomeisNowhere___]

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[@missundies]

@@shannonjackson9778 that's so true

[@buckfideniimd8546]

They always have to talk to the news. It’s like their signature move. Being on camera playing the part of the grieving friend/ fam member. It’s a spectacle but a very telling one.

[@biclexual]

It's cases like this that anger me the most. Obsession that goes so far that he probably truly believes that nobody misses her as much as he does. Like even after having murdered her he feels like he has some kind of claim over her... same thing with the dogtags. And the fact that Maribel knew she was in danger but just couldn't get rid of his clingy ass.

[@whiteheart6827]

So very sorry for your loss. I am thankful for your aunts service and I’m so sorry this happened to her.

[@SM-vx6bu]

There's just a horrific irony in killing someone who you keep saying you'd give up your life for.

[@whatever5575]

not ironic at all. people who make this type of statement are usually the possessive type and they're wackos.

[@eruditeinteractions8258]

And one who says all he wants is to be a dad, then smothers 2 daughters and shoves them in oil tanks..

[@Queen_Kellz_1120]

@@eruditeinteractions8258 💯

[@SleepySloth2705]

@@eruditeinteractions8258 hahahaha, if only Watts could see this 😂🤣😂

[@Surv1ve_Thrive]

DO life for.

[@MeanMrMustrd]

"I would give my life for her" yet would not move out of the house for her.

[@missundies]

I once told a man like that "but the only thing I want is for you to leave me alone", wow..I shouldn't have, but I hope it got him somewhere deep inside.

[@ladyriot9620]

Or pay the rent to help support himself

[@catmoore2443]

Sounds about right and people like that believe their own lies . They will kick you and will adamantly say they love you .

[@rockyBalboa6699]

When people say they would give their life for someone, they are also the same kind of people that could take away someone else's life! It's Psychopath 101.

[@jumpinjohnnyruss]

He said he'd give life for her, but he ultimately only had to give fifteen years.

[@reneesantiago6496]

Can we all just agree that those pics of them together look like they definitely were hooking up?

[@Miles-yl7cg]

RIP, Soldier. Thank you for everything.

[@cyansloth1763]

I love when Mike says ‘clickedity clackity’

[@ispartacus1337]

I love when Mike says words.

[@samhausmann1479]

I only watch it make Mike not mad and coming over to my place demanding a good explanation... He scares me being like this, he did it much more when he had less than 500k subs, nowadays he almost seems nice!

[@marlas8218]

Same lol

[@Strype13]

@@samhausmann1479 Your post confuses me...

[@loreleiorange]

I like when he says, "let's give it a goooo!" :)

[@android1617]

When she said he's too old for her, she was just being kind, not wanting to hurt his feelings. Saying "because you're a creep and a loser" would be a bit much I guess.

[@tritesy]

@New kid on the block not a creep? a loner chemist, no family, caught in the friend zone, very shifty, when told he is too old for a woman who is 20 years younger than him he immediately responds by getting $12,000 of plastic surgery, and then did his own surveillance on the house... Man the dude is a fuckin creep. And if you don't think he is, then you are too.

[@Dan-bh2ju]

If he was creep why would she hangout with all the time and introduce to her family

[@966Mako]

Did she think he was a creep & a loser... She seemed to be hanging out with him a fair bit. You don’t do that with roommates you think are creepy. I lived with several people (at different times) never had anything social to do with them, just live with them.

[@onlybyautomobile]

This thread is getting victim blamey. If you've never been stuck in a situation with someone you're scared of, then you have no idea why she acted the way she did. Listen to her 911 call again. She was terrified of him. I know personally I've been overly nice and accommodating to creeps, because they're scary. I can't imagine what it must have been like to have to live with him.

[@trudim6024]

I’m 40 and my husband’s 59. But then he’s not a creepy weirdo murderer. As far as I know....🤫😄

[@vicp99]

I remember seeing a show on this case and it really drove how incredibly vulnerable the average woman is. She was a trained soldier and still this pos was able to kill her. Unfortunately women don’t have the luxury of being kind to these lost puppy type people especially when it’s somebody who can hurt or kill them

[@jumpinjohnnyruss]

That may have been true before firearms were invented. Then everyone became vulnerable.

[@soniamadhukra]

It struck me that he waited until she was asleep to attack her. That was quite probably because he knew (possibly from experience) that he could not win a physical altercation any other way. Even the hulk would be vulnerable to such deviousness. A POS indeed.

[@sodacan1415]

anyone can die from a random blow or bullet to the back of the head.

[@elvispressplay7735]

Just watched this case on Netflix and I had to come back here as I felt you covered it more succinctly in less time. What an absolute Legend!

[@williamlee7782]

Did Netflix also consider KC Joy as a Chinese man incorrectly?

[@jg7102]

There are tree guarantees in life death, taxes and Mike making me feel better twice a week at tree pm. Thanks Mike.

[@goldkhw]

JOHNNY GLEASON: Oh, that's interesting. Do you live in Ireland too? What does he do to you twice a week? Does he keep his shirt on? And his glasses?

[@jesusrodriguez3728]

Okay

[@andyachilleos5013silvereagle]

Twice a week ,makes 4😂

[@elaine4415]

Agree..got love him

[@stratosphere94]

At “tree” pm 😌

[@melodylee7735]

If he was sitting in his car with binoculars watching for the killer to come back he had the binoculars facing the wrong way.

[@Igc2898]

As I agree with you, kc is sick and my aunt should still be here 😞

[@youtubeSuckssNow]

Eh he probably looked at the mirror through them once or twice

[@williamcontreras3514]

@@Igc2898 Sorry for your loss, your Aunt was robbed of what should have been an amazing life for her.

[@allanchandy4699]

Or he must have been using the binoculars watching the rear-view mirror!!

[@tavionakeys2934]

Him reading the yelp exactly how KC wrote it; that sent me over the edge 😄😆😆 i should not even be laughing man

[@BridgetStuart]

Good news - he does not accept responsibility for the crime, so he is unlikely to get paroled in 15 years. What a monster. Rest in peace Maribel

[@ronrubicon1593]

"Maribel was a real tomboy." **shows image of Maribel wearing a shirt that says "Tom"** You sneaky bastard.

[@eileenlennon-burns7020]

Ha!!!

[@LynnAgain83]

I caught that 😅 Mike is the best

[@AviationNut]

I saw that also and was gone write a comment about it, but after watching the video I forgot, but your comment reminded me of it again.

[@DottieMinerva]

He keeps saying he “misses her more than anyone” or “is more worried than anyone” and it’s beyond insulting to her actual love ones.

[@iamrandomsauce]

It was actually a very telling sign that he's done something to her. People tend to exaggerate everything when they're lying or covering something up.

[@JNR22B]

@@iamrandomsauce I don’t completely agree with this. His wording is also a case of English barriers perhaps in his native tongue it would sound very different. I’m not saying he’s not the perpetrator but I think there is a lot of lacking evidence and some very strange things in this case.

[@ellisdee420]

He seems like a narc

[@DottieMinerva]

@@ellisdee420 I watched this case on Dateline and they interviewed him in jail. Complete narcissist.

[@iamrandomsauce]

@@JNR22B you do have a point that language barriers should be taken under consideration. Yet, I don't think this may be even considered to be the case, as he uses the same things over and over again: "my one and only family", "my absolute bff", etc. Also, I speak Korean and even though its vocabulary is different from Chinese, culturally there are similarities. He doesn't use that complex of a dictionary to say that he might not be acquainted with the correct meaning. And it doesn't really matter as in either language, the use of these extra exaggerations would mean the same thing - "I'm hiding something or I'm lying about something".

[@kazelloc]

I was there with Lucy, Maribels sister, during the time Maribel went missing. I went with Lucy to Maribels apartment to obtain some of her property and I met her neighbor KC. He seemed calm and complying with letting Lucy search in the apartment while I was outside talking to him. But knowing that he was convicted of the killing; was horrible! Thanks for the video and this helps to keep her memory alive 🙏 God bless. John 3:16

[@shroomgod1990]

Grant deserved to get the last word in on that yelp thread. He must’ve been like “In your face bitches, I knew it”

[@tillitsdone]

Not many would befriend that guy, so she lost her life as a result of her kindness.

[@medicamedico4335]

That's why I'm mean..

[@pisssssssss]

You own a '68 Charger?

[@llIlIlIIllIIlllllllIIIlI]

Kindness or blindness

[@maxzak5310]

movies are wrong , you have to stay away from the weirdos

[@geraldbarreno535]

Kindness have nothing to do here .

[@jessesaldivar94]

I miss hearing Mike say " I hear ya barking big dog"

[@Amy-qe7ti]

Me too!!!!! One of my favorite Mikeisms!!!!!

[@taylorgallion2748]

he has the best catch phrases.

[@ashleewhittlesey7874]

Same

[@horsepanther]

Don't worry, he'll say it next time. He really needs to sell merch with his catch phrases on it. I would buy it.

[@josephconnor2310]

When he was arrested he was wearing her dog tags...chills.

[@JohnDavis-rd6ns]

That was a STRONG “give it a GOOOOOO”- I’m late to the party but damn I love Mike.

[@emeryvalexlane]

Truthfully, if I get murdered, as long as I end up on That Chapter I won't die in vain 😅

[@Teobi1]

Make it as unsolvable as possible to give Mike a good workout

[@lancelaws6128]

Damn lol 😂

[@peterkeigwin847]

I'm going to die in vain 😔

[@hartleyb8356]

That’s FACTS right there!!!

[@micheller6804]

Emery Lane, got any weird roommates or unstable exes? Its a possibility 😳

[@tarwater27]

Mike's the Mr. Rodgers of crime channels.

[@J0SHUAKANE]

Mr. Rodgers was never this funny.

[@SpencerWilliamsIV]

“It’s a beautiful day in te neighborhood...”

[@kcbh24]

Rogers

[@kcbh24]

@tyler ramsey that'd be you

[@gregbors8364]

Can you say "home in-va-sion?" I knew you could...

[@Monika-bc3dq]

The audacity of saying he misses her MORE THAN ANYONE in front of her family, after he literally was the cause of her death...

[@janaskibo871]

His lawyer looks so uncomfortable. He knows he should apologize. Sicko

[@frasert8779]

Wait... when he staked out his own house because “the criminal may return to the scene of the crime”, why didn’t they ask him why he assumed/knew the house was the scene of the crime? He said she left and never came home...

[@rafetizer]

They likely did pursue similar lines of questioning but he was pretty good about keeping the waters just murky enough.

[@keterclass3541]

With that statement you've given this case more thought than the police did

[@alucard6919]

Good observation.

[@stungstung2424]

Well spotted

[@AbstractTraitorHero]

@@keterclass3541 Cops aren't known for their intelligence after all.

[@Jugivadi]

That 911 call from Maribel naming KC as a threat... that was chilling. He did something very disturbing because she was ready to kill his ass.

[@specialk6984]

Wonder what he'd already done to put her in that heightened state, doubt she rang 911 cos he annoyed her. Maybe he'd tried getting in her room at night or something?

[@thecourtlyalchemist]

Anybody else wish she had?

[@charmolettafranquestafiestayam]

@@thecourtlyalchemist simp

[@thecourtlyalchemist]

​@@charmolettafranquestafiestayam Of course, I've been married happily for 32 years. I'm so old I had to look up the definition. Back in my day they called it being a gentleman. Back then that was considered a good thing.

[@HumphreyHorsehead]

@@thecourtlyalchemist Oi mate you got it wrong. A simp aint no gentlemen, they are weak willed, feckless, doting, desperate losers. Simping is not the same as treating women with respect. Its akin to unconditional worship.

[@MusicforMe123]

He should have been the suspect from day one with that 911 call. The entire family knew it was him, that is why they asked him why he was at her vigil. So glad the detectives tracked his activity at the library, that was the evidence they needed to arrest and convict. Be careful out there, not everyone deserves your kindness. R.I.P Maribel.

[@pseudocide7777]

He was the suspect from day 1, they just didnt have anything actually linking him to her dissapearance

[@derekwalsh1758]

The nerve to say "I miss her more than anyone" gosh makes me fucking sick

[@ashleyhazlehurst9593]

Ah, yelp, the place everybody goes to in order to discuss missing persons cases. Second only to bodybuilding forums

[@tashahatzidakis5680]

Misc

[@lurip79]

I have the feeling you know something I don't

[@charmolettafranquestafiestayam]

@@lurip79 there's a few bodybuilding forums that have had some interesting stuff come up. There's a couple specifically where users always talk about spooky stuff or irl stuff like this . I miss forums.

[@noobteam759]

@@tashahatzidakis5680 misc veteran here 😎 RIP Zyzz, inb4 Clive.

[@ErebusXanti]

I can only think of that episode of South Park that had that funny ass song of boogers and cum

[@ThatJayBloke]

Plot Twist: Grant framed KC just so that he could have the last word on the yelp thread

[@raerae6422]

Grant was the the one that remotely sent MB’s body location to the computer KC happened to be using just so he could have the last word on yelp. Devious 🤨

[@ThatJayBloke]

@@raerae6422 Undoubtedly the sneakiest villain we've ever covered

[@Cenentury0941]

@@ThatJayBloke wait till you find out that grant was the actual murderer and committed the crime so that a yelp thread would be started where he could get the last word in.

[@ViperVenoM13]

karma, she particpitated in the killing of irakian too

[@registeredjopper]

@@Cenentury0941 Grant is one conniving bastard...

[@amityislandchum]

I remember watching that whole Yelp spectacle unfold in real time back in 2013. It was discussed on one of the true crime subreddits. We were all super creeped out by KC and convinced of his guilt.

[@matthewwilton7778]

Wow, that's ceazy

[@seanstuhr2660]

I do love that Mike has embraced his "goos" and "turds". Keep 'em coming my good man.

[@cadavher]

The recording she left saying she will fight him with all her might, naming him specifically, paired with the Google search should be enough to seal the deal forever. I hope he never gets out. What a coward!!!!

[@karlcardona8381]

Also, the fact that he was about to get kicked out of his apartment for not having no job/income and not paying his share of rent, from the woman he was obsessed with.

[@joellebrowne5714]

Mike reading out the typos in KC’s posts is such a guilty pleasure. Love it.

[@a7x5631]

Rob Dyke does that too and in such a serious tone, it's hilarious

[@joellebrowne5714]

@@a7x5631 yes. Love him too.

[@FlameFlickers]

Completely. I almost felt bad for laughing. Almost..

[@theangrycheeto]

Ever notice how a few of his yelp posts had immaculate spelling and grammar?

[@billys5365]

I love the part where Mike is reading KC’s messages. 😂

[@kristinc2379]

It’s really sad knowing that just being a good person with a big heart and trying to befriend and help and support someone of the opposite sex can make them become obsessed and feel like they are entitled to you somehow, and when they don’t get what they want out of the “friendship”, they can go to extreme lengths like this. RIP Maribel, and thank you for your service to the U.S. during one of the most tragic times this country has faced

[@denisehagwood4542]

I don't care if this makes me sexist, i would never in a million years have a male roommate. Not worth the risk of assault, murder, etc. not that I'm blaming her at all. She seemed like a wonderful person

[@lorieromano]

Whatever doctor charged him $13k for his new face, owes him a refund

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

lol or maybe you should see his face before the surgery

[@verenaisiculai3058]

Refund in jail-Insurance claim,FRAUD

[@reginaphalange4182]

Lol!

[@justlikehoney1859]

Yeah I can’t tell at allllll

[@carstuff4u942]

Haha

[@evangeline77x]

Wow, that yelp user who tried to help him by explaining why he shouldn't be posting, lol. What a considerate person, I'm really shocked how civil that whole thread was.

[@thevilonesfr]

Right! You don't see people being this nice on the internet

[@seanthe100]

Right. It was with pure good intentions.

[@rmark1083]

Your looking at it with the advantage of hindsight. Let's pretend for a second that he were innocent and after making his suspicious comments the police focused solely on him. It takes the investigation in the wrong direction. Then we have the constitution promising every defendant is entitled to a trial by an impartial jury of his or her peers. We are all his peers right? If we happened to come across that yelp post which happened before the arrest and come to a decision on his guilt... Things like that can create situations where it causes even more injustice to the already grieving family. Or it could lead to an innocent person going to prison. That guy gave very sound advice which is good for everyone involved.

[@melhupby]

Different era of the internet.

[@dolomedestenebrosus9564]

That was my favourite "have a goo" ever. Caught me off guard

[@BlindRedWolf]

I’m so sorry for your loss. This is extremely tragic. Maribel is a beautiful warrior and her memory needs to be kept alive. We’ve all been young and have played around. But she was also serving our country. Please respect her and her family. Don’t leave rude or negative comments. You know that saying “Don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all”!

[@brudbbb1]

This shows you shouldn't be around someone just out of pity. 😔

[@TahtahmesDiary]

I hate to be "the feminist" here to ruin the day, but girls are taught to do just this from day one. Even kids movies we watch for fun beg we do it. It's bizarre because no other part of the community reciprocates so there's a huge chance we will be utterly used or even more seriously harmed.

[@citizenvulpes4562]

@@TahtahmesDiary I've always seen movies that show someone who dates out of pity as vilified. Also most men hate pity dates.

[@userm4009]

@@TahtahmesDiary so true! 🙏🏼

[@Hollylivengood]

Absolutely. There's actually a protocol for this that people who work at homeless shelters and rehab centers.

[@rustinstardust2094]

​@ohh geee Same. Fucking same. I used to be drawn to the "misfit/outcast" type. The last one I befriended 'cuz she was being picked on by our coworkers. She turned out to be probably the most dangerous/fucked up/evil person I've ever known. It took about six months for my nightmares about her to go from nightly to nonexistent.

[@elvibora6218]

him still denying is the biggest disrespect to her family

[@deana8202]

She was playing w fire. All those pics of them together look like more than friends.

[@enriquegilmour]

Maribel was beautiful, smart, and accomplished and it's easy to see how someone could develop a crush on her but it's impossible to understand how someone could murder her because she didn't feel the same way. This story is incredibly heartbreaking.

[@vermilliongecko]

It really annoys me when K.C says he loved her more than anyone, especially when her family were sitting there.

[@WobblesandBean]

He's a despicable person. Denies what he did, gives bs excuses, WORE HIS VICTIM'S DOGTAGS, he's just the most selfísh person ever. Claims he loved the woman he kiIIed more than her own family, _while in their presence _ Absolute scumbag.

[@damagecontrol7]

@@heartlights the famous timestamp you love

[@kaylaspazzz7678]

Tony Ortega loves and sticks up for disgusting murderers

[@susanabulnes3411]

Imagine surviving war and just to be killed in her own country!

[@davisjames8484]

She was not on the front lines

[@cindypattana6071]

Such is the irony of life.

[@radrcer]

And paying your killer’s half of the rent right before the end.

[@koqera]

GAH DAMNNNN AMERICA AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!!!

[@whitedragoness23]

@COUNTRYBOI and suffering from ptsd from it too!

[@learntotakeajoke3100]

This beautiful woman served two tours only to be taken away by a cowardly monster! Rest easy 💙

[@BleachCowboy2016]

Man, there was almost no real evidence to convict this guy. He definitely would have got away with it if he hadn't done that google search.

[@samyhannah9563]

he really was "the turd of May"

[@catiecodes]

Best comment lmaoo

[@bclikesyou]

"...and not turning this into a witch hunt." *Hunt A Killer ad immediately plays*

[@johnnyvanderheide2298]

I wish I could like this comment more then once.

[@ericl1832]

@Jumpcut Jimmy calm down professor pedantic

[@michaelwhite2823]

A turd party

[@joeakaprolifik7735]

@Jumpcut Jimmy wow calm down spelling police 👮‍♀️,it’s you tube not an exam,don’t be pedantic you know what was meant.yesterday this happened to a commenter as she made a mistake as she was in hospital on meds!!some one done this to her and it’s put her off commenting ,some people take things to heart,you might have thought you were helping but ...sorry for long reply 💖🇬🇧

[@joeakaprolifik7735]

@Jumpcut Jimmy yeah a right hero lol captain anal lol 😂

[@2004dale]

24:18 the eye glasses removal lmao 🤣 I can’t! I’m done Mike! 😭

[@GMSKYWATCHER]

KC is obsessed, infatuated lunatic, Maribel should have instantly explained that they would never be together instead of somewhat leading him on with mixed messages.

[@andretate351]

I was deployed with her in 03. I didn’t know her too well but I remember her being super cool. Always had a smile on her face. My best friend had the biggest crush on her. This is really sad.

[@danielescobar7618]

She was so beautiful inside and out.

[@andretate351]

@@heartlights I’m not sure if he served or not.

[@andretate351]

@Josh 88M. We’ve been to some infantry fobs. We definitely had it much better than them.

[@KD-mj7st]

@Josh what are you talking about ? We deploy with females all the time.

[@FlattardiansSuck]

​@@andretate351 thank you for you service brother

[@DrPhoerrets]

Grant is like that brother who always has to have the last word but doesn't know when it's appropriate

[@TiredRi]

Very accurate

[@nadiamurray8369]

😅

[@kingayy9267]

Always shouting the final "amen" after dinner grace

[@evie5375]

haha you're right! like,, stfu grant, no one asked

[@janiehlagy752]

Grant is smart, people....he knew

[@Errcyco]

The police failed this poor lady. She was a sweetheart.. she saw the food in everyone and when she needed others help no one was there for her. You deserved better Maribel, my heart goes to her poor sister and nieces and family 💔

[@sodacan1415]

pray tell what you would have liked for them to legally do.

[@psychobetha]

“when arrested he was wearing Maribel’s dog tags.” oh helllll no 😡 that’s a line you absolutely don’t cross.

[@420Gaming666]

"Let's have a GOOOOOOOOOOOO" - Mike, 2020

[@ispartacus1337]

Guuuuuu

[@joshbrz8902]

He must've done it while she was sleeping cuz we all know he wouldn't stand a chance against her straight up

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

where/how did he do it tho? there was no DNA or other trace evidence, the only way they caught him was because the police got lucky he was searching the location...

[@KARTIKEYA007]

why won't he stand a chance against her? she's a slim girl and he is a dude. He can knock her out cold with a punch

[@joshbrz8902]

She was a war veteran not a skinny girl I think you under estimate what she was capable of the only skinny girl was that skinny old asian that killed her

[@orphan124]

@@joshbrz8902 women are no match against men. Doesn't mean they aren't fearless or tough or warriors. Just no competition against men even individually. Serena Williams would lose a match against a high school male tennis player.

[@orphan124]

@@joshbrz8902 was she in combat? You think just because she was in the military she was a warrior? I'm sure she was tough and brave but she was no match for this aggressive killer. With all due respect to the victim of course.

[@phyliciakaker5707]

I watch this specific story on Worst Roommate Ever all the time. This story stayed with me

[@embadly]

it wasn’t even mentioned (unless i missed it for which i’m sorry if so) that “his accent” during the interviews/interrogations were fake. others who knew him as well said that he could speak perfect english and his “iTs NoT My FiRsT LaNgUAGE” which, granted, may be true, but he was playing it up so they all thought there was a language barrier and that he “just didn’t understand it all”. real manipulative like.

[@linag7308]

He was doing his own surveillance like Casey Anthony was doing her own investigation in to where her daughter was.

[@sphinxkitty4951]

Exactly

[@supremeamine2382]

lol

[@fabiwilliams4644]

But he did have defensive wounds. Those scratches on his arms for sure was Maribel fighting back. They should have examined them much more closely.

[@rmark1083]

@@notsousual2938 her body was badly decomposed and if she was already that bad then his skin cells under her nails didn't stand a chance.

[@rustinstardust2094]

It doesn't sound like they ever really believed that fishing line story.

[@MegaGovert]

As stated in the video, hers was still a missing person case, when this status changed, they put survailance on him.

[@a-roh5039]

Scratches aren't enough to charge someone with murder. You should know that cops need way more than that, or else they risk losing the case entirely.

[@damagecontrol7]

@@a-roh5039 scratches + disappearance though.. time to look closer. which they did. bravo.

[@LavaLahaie]

Not that it changes anything, but when someone is facing indisputable proof, and they still maintain their lies this is the final smallest piece that completes an utterly unreformable dishonourable human.

[@natavelasco1]

They guy “Grant from yelp” is “all of us” trying to solve cases 😅

[@davidmayberry3190]

They searched HIS apartment and found "no DNA, no finger prints"? That's weird.

[@aSinisterKiid]

not like they didn't find his fingerprints all over the place, but they didn't find abnormal prints or DNA out of place. Like they didn't find any of her blood on his carpet in his bedroom, or they didn't find her fingerprints on his nightstand. They didn't find his semen on her bed etc. Anytime cops do fingerprint searches they literally have to go through 100s up to 1000s of prints in a scene and they get a feel for what's normal and what's out of place. She likely never ever went in his room, so if they found 1 single print of hers like on the edge of a nightstand or the side of his bed, that would seem out of place because it's not a normal place to find it. If they found 1 of her hairs stuck in the side of his bedframe, that'd be out of place. But of all the fingerprinting they did, it all was within normal standards.

[@BalboaBaggins]

they were looking for HER DNA smartass

[@bulletsfordinner8307]

The way he said it.. Makes me think he cleaned it up.

[@MakiMajomUgatNagyot]

@@BalboaBaggins She lived there too ding dong-they were roomies duh

[@sharpshooter3525]

@@BalboaBaggins stop trolling

[@skipmars7979]

Fifteen years is hardly a sentence. He willfully tried to cover his crime and should have been given at least a life sentence.

[@MDCxThePG]

15 years is just the earliest he can get parole. I don't agree with the sentence but I understand it since he was convicted on circumstancial evidence. With that being said, he will never get out even after 15 years as long as he professes his innocence. So he most likely will be in there for life..

[@jerrycraig6522]

OR, the person running the yard will "fix" him!!!

[@rustinstardust2094]

​@@MDCxThePG Even having the chance to get out in 15 years at the earliest is too early.

[@jimmysimard3008]

@Jumpcut Jimmy To be honest our Canadian parole board release pretty much everyone at their first hearing, just to give you one exemple we just saw a drunk driver who killed a family of three (or four since the wife was pregnant) released already this week after serving not even four years of a 14 years sentence. As bad as the US system could be ours isn't better...

[@NickMeisher]

Isn't he eligible for parole after 7.5 years, because of good behavior 50% of the time gets cut in California?

[@boozypixels]

I've had plenty of roommates but I can't say I'd ever give my life for them. At least not when they burn my pans.

[@wildcolonialman]

Fabulous Warrior, fabulous combat survivor, remarkable Girl. Vey sad.

[@SGTSnakeUSMC]

Ummm, she didn't come home last night but her car, purse, and phone did? Friendzone boy guilty.

[@jw5848]

@SGTSnakeUSMC 100% agree with you, Shipmate.

[@therealaintain]

@@user-xt5ms1eo2e this is a creepy fuckin comment

[@SGTSnakeUSMC]

@@heartlights It incriminates him since she did make it home (vid footage paying rent), and he lied about it.

[@shaneculkin7124]

I know, right!!??!!! What an idiot. Get rid of evidence. Crime 101. Whatta fool

[@therealaintain]

@@SGTSnakeUSMC i meant the "friendzone" part lol

[@opaljk4835]

“I solved this case because i pointed out the suspicious man saying suspicious things acting suspicious” that’s all you need to put someone away. Thanks Grant

[@jaycievictory8461]

Grant needs a smack 😉

[@parisite99]

He wasn’t wrong though. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@opaljk4835]

parisite99 it must be really hard to be Grant

[@RemmySkye]

@@opaljk4835 I'll grant you that much!

[@dianneD27]

Adam J K sounds a bit suss to me 🤔

[@ZhangtheGreat]

There's so much about this case that I'm still confused by. For instance, if KC killed her, how did he do it? Where did the murder occur? How did her body end up where it did? If he killed her in their home, there had to be something left behind to indicate the crime happened there, and if he killed her near the spot her body was found, how did he get her all the way out there? Maybe all of these questions were answered during the trial, but since Mike didn't reveal these details in this video, I'm still curious about them.

[@Ahoooooooo]

Maybe it is like kc said . He got framed. It was the perfect crime . I am pretty sure , people knew he was being watched . Everyone connected to the library would have know about the cameras and why . Scary ..... Edit: come to think of it . Why would he look at the spot on a computer ? It's not like there is a camera and you can have a real time view of the place , to see if anyone is there . ..... questions and more questions .

[@sodacan1415]

@@Ahoooooooo give me a break

[@Ahoooooooo]

@@sodacan1415 Would you google search the place you buried a corpse ? What do you expect to see ?

[@antinatalistwitch111]

The way the investigator described KC in the netflix series is very disturbing that people dont hold men accountable even after they are guilty of such heinous acts.... the investigator saying KC loved Maribel is disgusting. This is NOT LOVE, and i guess people are teaching men that possessiveness equals love, which is why men think women belong to them and they have the right to take their lives. The investigator should have said KC is a mentally disturbed psychopath that deserves not to see the light of day. Instead, he spoke about KC like he had some sympathy for him. This guy will kill again. His own sister was terrified of him. He should have been given life.

[@andrejdrago1942]

Such a tragic story. Rest in peace Sergeant Ramos!

[@nozoto]

Wholesome, proactive, dynamic and pretty. Another sad loss to the world among countless ones.

[@LynnAgain83]

A very sad loss indeed ❤️🌹🇺🇸🙏

[@user-vf1nt8we6i]

Brilliant cut of “let’s have a goo” 😂

[@neddkenneth8938]

You’re very good at representing these cases! I do enjoy them, thank you! I mean it’s sad what happened in every one of them but... it’s also good to see that people do get some justice for their loss.

[@88_turbo_fox73]

He must of really caught her off guard I'd imagine she'd have a firearm on her