Spider-Man Stops Holding Back

Spider-Man Stops Holding Back
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[@thatguyzero]

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[@y4junzhan56]

i noticed background music is one punch man

[@johnstrawb3521]

It's a pity this got so stupid at the finish. "Cold-blooded murder"? It's an absurd claim and wrecks the story. Totally unnecessary, from both IM and Aunt May. Ugh.

[@snyperwulffgaming9575]

Your comic link is wrong, that particular comic involves Aunt May getting shot, You want to link one that leads to the comic "What if? Spider-Man Back in Black" As that is the one you're talking about here.

[@simplegarak]

Wait... aunt may was the one that was shot. That was the whole thing that led to One More Day. Are you sure this isn't a what if? issue? I just checked the issue you linked and the very first page is Peter cradling Aunt May - not Mary Jane.

[@CodeguruX]

Are you fucking using One Punch Man background music?

[@austinbridges518]

Classic "good guy is hated by everyone for having a realistic response " scenario.

[@kingmasterlord]

welcome to the life of a bullied autistic person

[@joaovmlsilva3509]

Not classic at all.

[@lennon-x-almeida9485]

​​@@joaovmlsilva3509actually, I can google search right now and a bunch of these scenarios, especially from Spider-Man, are going to show up. Quite classic, indeed.

[@Extremexboxplayer]

@@joaovmlsilva3509 it's very classic

[@knightofthenine3121]

The Spider Man who gobbles will be the best thing in spider man comics of late and i want peter going full goblin at the people who wronged him next week

[@arcticafrostbite617]

Gotta love how iron man refuses to accept his part in the blame in every universe.

[@the5minsum442]

616 Iron man did blame himself for everything after civil war

[@ALxeFDK]

@@the5minsum442 rare occasion tho

[@the5minsum442]

@@ALxeFDK literally no one is harder on tony than Tony himself it’s not a rare occasion for Tony to put the blame on himself even for things that aren’t even his fault it sounds to me like you’ve never read an iron man comic

[@gabrielrodriguez6058]

tony never takes the blame for anything, he may thing for a little while that it's his fault but forgets easily, that's why he is an AH@@the5minsum442

[@dumbidea1007]

@@the5minsum442ok but he still do his things He blamed himself for clone Thor but still used him against heroes

[@jshlttl]

Writer betrayed aunt May's character, she responded entirely wrong.

[@grizzlymelon8376]

Yeah that sanctimonious BS was just insanely out of character, hell the entirety of that last part was dissonant as hell, the narrative tried to portray Peter's action as crossing the line while clearly showing the situation as anything but that.

[@bryanwoods3373]

Agree. All to paint Peter as wring. Sure, she'd beg him to turn himself in; but she would never stop supporting him. Peter didn't learn all of his compassion from Uncle Ben.

[@chibilutionaudios]

i hate when things do this (Comics do it the most) "Let's put our hero in such an emotionally compromising situation... put him in a place where he almost HAS to kill and then when he does, we're going to gaslight our hero and audience into thinking that this was 'too far'" its just annoying bullshit.

[@SlideIX]

It doesn’t work narratively because in reality most people believe in justice killings whether they want to admit it or not. Kingpin is a villain who ordered an assassination and was going to murder Peter with his own hands while holding someone else hostage. Even if you forget about the murder of MJ, killing someone in self defence or to save the life of another so why would an audience feel sympathy for Fisk or negatively about Peters actions?

[@wingedgravity9742]

@@chibilutionaudios yeah im sorry but if i had some shit like that happen id prob do a lot more than 1 punch him lmfao

[@roamingcatholic]

It isn’t murder if you have to kill someone to stop them from killing you or someone else. Killing in self defense isn’t immoral.

[@Icemario87]

It's the height of morality.

[@3869426384]

It's especially stupid when Uncle Ben was a solider. She was married to a man who took out people to protect others.

[@rory8182]

yeah, any half decent lawyer would see that spiderman had no choice, Fisk was going to beat him to death then kill his aunt, absolutely self defence

[@williamj.dovejr.8613]

Justifiable Homicide.

[@anthonymolina4982]

Exactly. It's why I never got behind most super hero comics. If someone kills your loved one, no human would just turn the other cheek and say it's fine. The criminal would be sent to prison and then get released or escape and do it again. And as far as I know, I never heard of anyone who killed the killer of a loved one and then magically goes on a killing spree right after.

[@CedricBassman]

Peter isn't even close to being wrong here. And i love how Tony always shifts the blame away from him no matter what. Especially in the Civil War Storyline he managed to piss off both Thor and Spider-Man enough so that they stopped holding back against him. That should tell you something.

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

Lookup narcism

[@TheKillerStove]

​@@ELIJAHNUBOYDStan Lee's original premise for Iron Man was to create a wildly unlikable character (a narcissistic, arrogant, alcoholic, billionaire war profiteer) and turn him into a hero people would root for. Tony's narcissism is a remnant of that origin.

[@ReigoVassal]

​@@ELIJAHNUBOYDI'm all for flaw of a character on the protagonist. But Tony in here have gone too far. Just....not something to root for.

[@Brkncntrllr]

@@TheKillerStoveSo basically the only time Iron Man was very done justice was in the MCU?

[@wlt3585]

​@ethan9400 Something like that, the MCU did him better than majority of comics ever did long term

[@DraphEnjoyer]

"ERM YOU COMMITTED MURDER????" This really crosses the line into pure psychopathic delusion. The guy is a known criminal mob boss who was going to literally beat Peter to death and murder his aunt yet somehow Peter is the "monster" for killing in self defense. A major compliment I'll give to the Marvel Movies is that the Civil War movie made this horrific clusterfuck of a story somewhat plausible. No one should have sided with comic Iron Man in this situation

[@coolchrisable]

i know dam well i wouldnt cause comic iron man didnt take into account villians targeting the family of those superheroes who revaled their identity. personally all the families of the super heroes should have been moved to somewhere safe and under 24 hour surveillance by other supers so any villian even thinking about attempting to attack is going to get one hell of a jumping

[@superoakwood5513]

​@@coolchrisableactually that's what he does to the heroes from his team that unmasked,but peter was a fugitive so he didn't get that protection anymore

[@grizzlymelon8376]

@@coolchrisable What i wonder mainly is why didn't Peter see it coming that his family would be targeted, wasn't the entire reason he wore the mask to consciously protect those close to him?

[@b.m.5068]

Bruh if I was in Peter's place I'd have atleast broken the limbs of iron man if not kill him before surrendering

[@coolchrisable]

@@grizzlymelon8376 cause bad writing mostly cause peter knowing his villians they would target his family

[@X_XD]

Spider-Man could be one of the most TERRIFYING villains of all time if: 1:He kept the venom symbiote. 2:He dropped his morals completely.

[@thesuperdoge2476]

“Spider-Man could become a terifying villain if he was Venom”

[@scottholland2814]

Have you seen the comic where he gets the sins of the goblin? Bro is going to be more terrifying now with those as he is completely morally unhinged

[@Lizuya]

@@thesuperdoge2476venom + Spidermans physical attributes is an absolute unit

[@Nempo13]

I suggest you read up on the Spider Assassin. He took Uncle Ben's murder personally and refused to allow any future death to happen due to his inaction. That Peter KILLED half the world's villains on his own. Not just his own rogue's gallery, we are talking straight up murdering names like Dr. Doom, Mr. Sinister, and Magneto. Spider-Man is absolutely terrifying when he doesn't hold back. He doesn't need the symbiote, and without the symbiote he is actually MORE terrifying because he continues to use his scientific mind to create gadgets and solutions rather than relying on the symbiote (that and the symbiote has some big weaknesses).

[@piercemchugh4509]

Can you imagine how sick that would be though? Imagine the terror of walking the streets at night and being afraid of the possibility you are going to be victim of a human spider dropping down from the building above in a alleyway or something, pulling you up to its web... That's why marvel Zombies scared the shit out of me as a kid.

[@Barnghost]

Tony in the comics is exacly how you'd expect an irl billionaire to be

[@kingmasterlord]

fr, the absolute audacity to call someone _else_ pompous when you're Tony Stark

[@PlatinumEditz]

This example of Tony is out of character, a good amount of people weren’t exactly happy with how a lot of characters were portrayed in this comic.

[@dubbyplays]

Elon Musk

[@freedom5925]

@@PlatinumEditz Stan Lee's original premise for Iron Man was to create a wildly unlikable character (a narcissistic, arrogant, alcoholic, billionaire war profiteer) so it's not really out of character

[@deathshop2172]

well his entire idea of having superheros reveal their identities is evidence of that. It's easy to protect yourself when you're a billionaire with state of the art AI and Tech, not so much when you're a working class kid living in an apartment which could be decimated if a villain looks the wrong way at it

[@beansat3am]

Aunt May: "Would you think Mary Jane would've wanted you to do that?" Mary Jane from the afterlife after watching King Pin Die: Karma's a bitch huh?

[@cosmicreef5858]

also that is literally gaslighting someone with their loved one who they just lost..wow..that is legit evil and disgusting

[@shrews12001]

Kill the guy that murdered her and several dozen others that was just threatening to kill both of us? Yeah. Yeah, I think she would you friggin fossil.

[@amlandutta5264]

It's kinda funny how in this timeline May was like "would you think MJ wanted this?" While in the canon one MJ was like Go ahead.

[@kimbelsimpson7535]

The worst thing Peter did was to side with Ironman instead of Cap because if he hasn't both Mary Jane and Fisk would still be alive.

[@Dogmonkey4]

Peter pooper

[@michaellabonte6390]

Mj never died in the real one

[@themenagerie5247]

Fisk being dead is a good thing.

[@kimbelsimpson7535]

@@michaellabonte6390 I know originally it was supposed to be Aunt May who got shot by the Kingpin's hit man.

[@xeltanni8999]

​@@kimbelsimpson7535Nobody ever wins siding against Cap.

[@b.k1054]

Iron man calling spiderman pompous is a the greatest ‘pot calling the kettle black ‘ moment in the history of comic books

[@jimharris5320]

More like 'pot calling the porcelain china black"

[@BigHailFan]

i mean he WAS wearing the black suit at the time. :p

[@jg2722]

I hate this Aunt May , she turned her back on Peter at his worst moment.

[@blackninjaleo19]

thank god it was a "what if" scenario cuz abandoning peter at a time of need is so far outta character for aunt may

[@InhabitantOfOddworld]

May is sometimes given this batshit moral compass. Look at No Way Home.

[@aaronjackson8204]

@@blackninjaleo19if you think about it, this is canon in another universe.

[@joaoguilhermeassim]

Agreed

[@jackwells8107]

The worst thing about this is, Peter never broke the law. What happened, did he 'unregister' when he decided to quit supporting Stark? Or does the SHRA require lifelong slavery to every whim of the government? The real problem with this story is that no one - including the writers at Marvel - had any clue what the SHRA actually required. I also love Stark moralizing about Pete killing Fisk. Stark - "This was totally unjustified, not at all like when I illegally cloned Thor and Bill Foster died."

[@azariyelvarro6271]

Someone should ask Tony how Wong Chu is doing, considering Tony was responsible for the man's death on account of exploding the ammo dump he was next to. Tony wasn't a military combatant so you can't cover it under sanctioned warfare, and unlike Kingpin Wong Chu wasn't even remotely a threat to Iron Man after the Armor was made. (Yes, Wong Chu was retconned to be alive later, but last I check, Kingpin hasn't exactly stayed dead either.)

[@jackwells8107]

@@azariyelvarro6271 I'm going to take the devil's advocate role here and say that Stark had no idea how effective the armor was at that point or how long it's power would last, and Wong Chu was a terrorist leader who had kidnapped Stark. Stark killed Wong Chu while escapting captivity. Pete made the cold blooded decision to go after the Kingpin. I will say that I do think Stark is a criminal, and that Pete was morally justified here, but I do think this particular situation isn't the same.

[@onyxtay7246]

As always, the actual solution is to fire Tony Stark and Reed Richards into the sun. Most heroes will never match what those two "heroes" do in terms of body count.

[@silverblade357]

Tony Stark preaching about the merits of the government and his SHRA while the *Kingpin of Crime* brazenly uses him as a bodyguard and gives orders to the FBI. Tony is so stuck on the idea that he cannot be wrong that he deliberately ignores any evidence to the contrary.

[@RickyUzumaki993]

@@silverblade357 And the writing bends over backwards to prove him right

[@helpfulDeathgod]

Absolutely not a damn soul in their right mind would actually be upset about fucking _Kingpin_ dying. Aunt May is just completely wrong in this too.

[@RickyUzumaki993]

Agreed

[@cosmicreef5858]

agreed

[@Mysticgamer]

This writing is stupid.

[@colossusslayer1234]

"If you love him that much, maybe they'll bury you in the same box" jesus christ that's cold💀

[@redaxer2908]

How is it murder if Kingpin was literally holding Aunt May hostage to coerce Peter into letting himself be killed?

[@reliantbelial2341]

it isnt

[@TheKyrix82]

Because Fisk has more judges and juries on his payroll. Yes, juries. He'd find a way. Even from beyond the grave

[@thetrick4025]

Becuase stupid government bullshit

[@fran13r]

Because comic writers are pretty bad. If they were good they would be writing their own books.

[@thatdumbass9856]

​@@fran13r I disagree. These ones suck, though

[@MichaelJones-rz5sw]

Peter here has a very good case of self-defense for his aunt. When a loved one is in full visible danger, one has the right to use whatever they can to do to get them out of danger. Aside from Kingpin, the worst Peter did was injure a few cops.

[@amartya9034]

They gotta call Matt Murdock in there he’s represented peter before, shares his mutual hate for kingpin and he is that world’s sensible lawyer instead of the “omg you killed! umumu bad🥺” personality that everybody else has

[@AllknowingUnknown]

​@@amartya9034Agreed. He is in fact. A very. Good. Lawyer.

[@elchjol2777]

A good lawyer could get Peter's charges down to manslaughter if you can't get the walk on the murder charge, with one or two counts of assault on an officer. Though if said officers can be proven to be corrupt,he may also get those reduced or let off. The fight against Iron Man could be considered resisting arrest and assault on an officer if Superheroes are given the same legal protection as officers. With good behavior he might only be in prison for a few years,under ten most likely if his lawyer is good at arguing down the charges.

[@thecookiemeister5374]

@@elchjol2777 With Daredevil as his lawyer, Spiderman would walk out with a briefcase full of Benjamin's from a counter-sue

[@ClockworkGearhead]

@@thecookiemeister5374 Not with the Superheroine Registration act in action.

[@kzakulenga5138]

Peter really isn't in the wrong. Realistically killing Kingpin was the only way Aunt May would be safe from him; He was going to keep gunning for her until he finally landed his mark. Killing him isn't the right thing to do but it is what's best. Think of how many innocent lives Peter saved by killing him.

[@darryllavalley7073]

If something is the best thing to do in a moment, then that in itself is a reason for why its “right” to do.

[@cosmicreef5858]

It IS the right thing to do if there is no other way

[@TheKillerEmcee]

You gotta love how people try to defend the right actions then say they aren't the right actions...

[@darryllavalley7073]

@@TheKillerEmcee lmfao fr, makes me think if they claim this isn’t the “right” thing to do, they probably think giving mercy to every scum of the earth is the honorable thing to do, cant stand it when people irl get away with heinous crimes and face a sentence for only a small portion of their life, these snowflakes need to learn about grit and justice.

[@estacion7386]

Doing The best for spiderman, that doesnt sound very spidermany of him

[@johng6950]

Cold-blooded murder won't hold up; there are 3 living witnesses plus probably airport security cams. Kingpin had a hostage and was attacking Peter. Easiest self-defense case in history given both their prior records.

[@ShockStormwing]

Well they ARE in new york, so he’d probably still get screwed.

[@estacion7386]

​@@ShockStormwingNew york, like the absolutly controlled by fisk, that even having the avengers building rigth next to it stop him to do his stuff

[@CaptainPrincess]

you know how theres this thing about black-belts in martial arts have a really tough time legally defending themselves like if you get into a fight and you hurt someone, even when youre defending yourself, if youre a black-belt in martial arts or some other legally recognized status as being a professional in combat youre in much deeper trouble than just a normal person without training its probably something along those lines arguably stupid but probably something along the lines of "hes superpowered, he doesnt get the same self-defense clause as regular people"

[@GreenStorm8200]

Writers: That's the neat thing-

[@dreemurrprince]

@@CaptainPrincessand thats generally a really stupid law, since what choice do you have? If a professional fighter is forced into self defense what are they gonna tell him? Just take it and die? Obviously not. Same thing here, what was peter supposed to do, let himself be beaten to death and leave the life of his aunt in the hands of a known murderer who just finished killing his wife? Yeah, bullshit. (Adding a note here cause i realized right after sending this can be taken out of context, but im not attacking you, just my frustrations with that law)

[@montithered4741]

Yet another example of how Peter is superior to Tony in almost every way; smart, strong, fast, agile, dexterous, moral.

[@MyWillBeDone]

Only if he had that kinda cash

[@ryansilverstone7378]

@@MyWillBeDone Fr

[@mariovazquez7801]

​@@MyWillBeDoneCash and preparation time would make him op

[@freedom5925]

yeah, peter is genius and created his own web shooters and helped creating dr octopus arms, but is he really smarter than tony?

[@Lee-ed9wv]

​@@freedom5925several mentions to his abnormal genius, yes at the level of both Reed and Stark.

[@dashwhatchamakalit]

Tony never seems to learn from this particular type of mistake. He forgets that the villains will do anything to get at them. Including their loved ones.

[@christopherkidwell9817]

More bad writers who don't look at real life. They seem to think that superheroes are 'invulnerable' when IRL (which is what many people WANT comics to at least halfway adhere to) they and their family members would be easy targets for a villain who has no family members and 'does not give any' anymore. Personally I say that any villain who endangers the public should be allowed to be immediately put down to protect the public. Just like the police do IRL when someone is a danger to society... unless they are Caucasian lily-white.

[@dashwhatchamakalit]

@@christopherkidwell9817 Batman: I can't kill the Joker! It goes against my moral code! Hyperion: ...So we can't kill him... Can I just rip his arms and legs off? Can stick him in a a playpen at that point. Still technically alive... Batman: ...

[@silverblade357]

​@@dashwhatchamakalitBatman: "Stay away from my pet psychos! They're mine!"

[@megaman37456]

@@silverblade357 Jason Todd: I've been filling up the Morgue all week! Batman: Jasooooonnnnn! The fuck?!

[@screwgoogle4993]

@@christopherkidwell9817 Blacks get themselves killed because they don't know how to keep their hands to themselves. Cops and negroes are one and the same.

[@ALxeFDK]

I love the fact that Peter still controlling himself emotionally cuz if not there would be a punch of dead bodies beside first including iron man

[@the5minsum442]

Peter would not beat iron man bruh stop it y’all need to quit dickriding Peter he ain’t that strong😂

[@ALxeFDK]

@@the5minsum442 bro he can punch a hole through his chest and in civil war he threw him through the wall just because he stood against him you don't know how strong Peter is not mentioning the black suit

[@ALxeFDK]

@@the5minsum442 and during one comic I forgot about he threw hulk through the Avengers tower glass that is break proof just because hulk disrespected his wife

[@the5minsum442]

@@ALxeFDK dawg you don’t know how strong iron man is he’s taken hits from hulk, sentry and thor without sustaining any damage he withstood 4 nuclear explosions at the same time while at 2% power and he came out without a scratch you really think spidey can hit harder than multiple nukes? Spidey’s strong but he’s not on iron man’s level he doesn’t have the power to damage iron man’s suit

[@the5minsum442]

@@ALxeFDK spider man never threw hulk out of the avengers tower window he threw wolverine not hulk lmao so it’s either you’re lying or you’re misremembering either way you’ve just proven you have no idea what you’re talking about

[@williamj.dovejr.8613]

Did Stark think this through... family members of heroes would instantly become targeted? Unfortunately not.

[@orlandobritt1460]

No he 96% try to cover his mistakes up

[@adriansepulveda9452]

He doesn't care. Tony is considered the biggest asshole in Marvel comics.

[@codyhill2311]

Lmao pretty sure he would have which is why comics are shit writing anymore they don't stay consistent to character abilities.

[@PriestApostate]

Stark is of the viewpoint that if it doesn't involve people HE cares about, then it isn't a problem.

[@adriansepulveda9452]

@@PriestApostate And yet when other people don't do what he wants he gets pissy about it.

[@Icemario87]

It's actually canon to the original Stan Lee & Steve Ditko that Spider-Man holds back. Stan, himself, said Spider-Man is weaker only than The Hulk and Thing (although, I would personally add Thor).

[@ScorpionRevengeNCG]

i mean we do see spider-man hold up against hulk in a way that thor doesn't most of the time and that's due to peter knowing he doesn't have to hold back against the hulk.

[@artyd42]

The only reason why Thor is not on the list of people stronger than Spiderman is because Thor has been KO'ed by Hulk. And Thing has gone for an hour with Hulk. Spiderman has gone longer.

[@jaidenkoch3487]

It is shown that Peter is even able to calm down hulk as well

[@jeremymoreauuv207]

@@jaidenkoch3487 he did by makin The Hulk laugh & bring Bruce back

[@GangstaStan010]

Thor and Hercules were added actually.

[@SmilingKratosTheGodOfWar]

Do the authors of these one off comics just ignore the concept of self defense and the defense of others. The two cops had a gun pointed at someone and the one giving orders was killed. That is a clear case of self defense.

[@adambrown6669]

Remember from the police perspective they have seen a superhuman individual break into a prison, attack cops and kick Iron mans ass, then when iron man returns with more cops all he sees is a dead kingpin, 2 cops pinned to a wall and a distressed old lady, real life would probably have gone the same way

[@apophenic_]

There is a massive number of outright shitty authors. The author of this comic is no exception. To be honest, we are better off with AI comic designers than what we have nowadays.

[@screwgoogle4993]

Liberals. These people glorify criminals and villify anyone who defends themselves in real life. They don't believe in self-defense, because they're tyrants doing the attacking.

[@notjimpickens7928]

@@adambrown6669 they were corrupt tho?? Lmao what

[@adambrown6669]

@@notjimpickens7928 yes but even if they weren't, same result, they're job wouldn't allow them to condone murder and that's basically all they saw happen, they had no idea why spiderman was doing what he did, from the perspective of any cop, corrupt or not they are gonna see Spiderman as the aggressor

[@Pensive_Scarlet]

Sheesh, the way Iron Man is written in this. Now I can see why people called it character assassination.

[@TheDoomsdayzoner]

Civil War itself was one big character murder spree. Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-men, Fantastic 4 - all if them were written wrong. Peter never would side with Tony. He would go with Cap. And Tony never would resolve to such underhanded tactics.

[@kingjoker8399]

Nah this accurate to his comic version

[@TheVergile]

as a general rule if a moral question arises its best to look at what iron man does and then assume the exact opposite position.

[@harlannguyen4048]

He was ironically the "correct" side in Civil War II.

[@alexmansfield3268]

​@@harlannguyen4048there were no correct sides. Everyone was a fucking idiot in that

[@HowlingDoom]

You know sometimes I feel like Spider-Man fans are over reacting about how Marvel hates him, cause y'know part of Spider-Man is the struggle of not just balancing a hero life and a normal life but also the everyday man struggle but hearing shit like this makes me remember..."No. Those fans are not over reacting. These mfers actually hate him"

[@nolanevery3798]

The only thing wrong about this is aunt may calling Peter a monster for killing Kingpin who was going to kill her. Then Ironman having the balls to say this one was on you, like dawg this whole thing cause you couldn’t keep your mouth shut.

[@berrymint6384]

EGO not balls. Balls would imply bravery which he acts ANYYTHING BUT that here

[@nolanevery3798]

@@berrymint6384your absolutely right😂

[@rossjones8426]

Funny how Superheroes have a no kill rule but casually open fire on other heroes.

[@cacyk4103]

tony: yeah and sign here "no killing*" heroes: yeah sure *villains

[@oddoneout1835]

A) They're holding back. B)They're heroes, they can take it. C)Plot armor.👍

[@cosmicreef5858]

probably because they would most likely survive but yeh i get that point It is nonsense Also how in the heck you have a "no kill" rule if your enemy is not a usually human criminal but a psychopath with super weapons or super powers? They NEED to be killed

[@Kos4Evr]

To be fair, tony has no powers. Without the arsenal of weapons in his suit he can't fight spiderman.

[@ClockworkGearhead]

@@Kos4Evr Can't fight him with them, to be absolutely fair.

[@twofour9515]

"decides to use his black suit" me: "oooooh shit"

[@cidlunius1076]

I feel like the threat of suffocating Fisk with webbings down his throat should have lived on in this alternative reality.

[@Geozone117]

Yeah now imagine if he actually had the symbiote.

[@Saavryn]

Just remember! The writers were so out of touch they thought Tony Stark was the good guy in the civil war arc.

[@adambrown6669]

No they actually didn't, they had neither side be the "good guy" both sides had pros and cons to their cause.

[@DrakeBarrow]

Everybody was behind the Idiot Ball for that storyline, really, and it was fucking frustrating. Character assassination left and right, and much of it didn't make a damn bit of sense (everybody turning on each other almost immediately when they'd been friends or co-workers for decades in some cases). Overall, though, the pro-Registration side were far, FAR worse than the anti-Registration side - any good points they had to make were thrown out the window by the actions they took to achieve their goals.

[@AnonKiesura]

@@adambrown6669 hard to say that pro-registration could be seen as anything other then the badguys though with you know, unconstitutional law being put into effect before it could even be sent to the supreme courts, armed riot squads being sent to forcibly arrest anyone with powers who hadn't registered, using nanites to forcibly control the behavior of arrested individuals to use as enforcers, turning the other way and aiding criminals just because they fought against the unregistered heroes, and last but not least, making a homicidal half cyborg clone of a at the time dead hero to use as an ace up their sleeve against other heroes and not even choosing to end the battle after said clone flat out murders several of their so called "friends" cap had to surrender for them to finally do something about ragnarok.

[@loudradialem5233]

If I were one of the jurors, my vote would be "not guilty". How many chances did Kingpin have to reform? At this point, Peter was just the instrument of divine punishment.

[@RickyUzumaki993]

Agreed

[@cosmicreef5858]

he was an innocent man who did what he should

[@ClockworkGearhead]

It was still self defense, too. "Let me kill you or I'll kill your aunt." Like, clear cut. But the entire point of the SHRA wasn't about justice, it was about corruption and control.

[@c0ya1]

​@@RickyUzumaki993Good. Kingpin's ass should be pushing daisies, not walk about society.

[@brendenhawley2225]

Same here, Jury nullification ahoy.

[@Rose-yx6jq]

If there is one thing every man should fear. It is a silent Spiderman.

[@silverblade357]

That's because, in that moment, the mask is just a mask, and Spidey isn't around to protect you from Peter Parker.

[@xgames9816]

Wasn't there one comic where he couldn't speak because of something and everyone was fucken terrified?

[@Rose-yx6jq]

@@xgames9816 my point. 9/10 times. A silent Spider-Man is a scary Spider-Man because he's done playing around.

[@Shonin23]

He got a criminal to talk in the PS4 game just by silently putting his face near his. All fun and games until the jokes stop coming

[@Pneubeteube]

Lol, Ironman calls it "Cold blooded murder" but, is it really? Is it really cold blooded? Seems like emotions were pretty hot to me

[@reliantbelial2341]

and it wasnt even murder

[@cosmicreef5858]

But Fisk is an "angel"? Are they gone mad?

[@cosmicreef5858]

seems like the justice is pretty burning obvious to me

[@monkeydjimmy5169]

Is it me or Iron Man is the villain of every marvel universe ?

[@russianmen-vb3hx]

Except MCU and animated shows

[@matiasluukkanen7718]

Iron Man to Spider-Man: "That was a cold blooded murder, you have to be held responsible." Iron Man to Kingpin: "You are a cold blooded murderer, sadist and scum of the Earth, but I will lay down my life to protect you from consequences of your actions. Have a nice time in France."

[@lkotro21]

They wrote how Spider-man tossed any semblance of restraint and moral code out the window because he lost HIS WIFE, and they write "Yeah so Spider-man needs to be single to stay relevant"

[@seanheath4492]

I really wish Marvel Editorial would let Pete and MJ be a couple again. They have younger spider-people (Miles, Gwen, Anya) to appeal to the younger crowd. At the very least, come up with better reasons than "literal deal with the Devil" or "magic alternate dimension weirdness."

[@lkotro21]

@@seanheath4492 Dr. Doom could've saved Aunt May and rid himself of the Life Debt that he owes to Spider-man. (Remember when Peter met MJ in the airport, when he was trying to recover his marriage? And then he saved Doom from assassins, got his wife back...)

[@seanheath4492]

@@lkotro21Was not aware of that, but I only started having enough income to collect comics shortly before Civil War. Not that it mattered. Joey Q decided he wanted Spidey to be single again, so by golly that marriage was going away.

[@lkotro21]

@@seanheath4492 That was The Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 2 #50. I'm not sure if writers remembered that. But considering OMD's attempt at showing us that EVERY SINGLE PERSON in MCU couldn't help Aunt May... Maybe they didn't care.

[@seanheath4492]

@@lkotro21From what I remember reading, Joe Quesada apparently never liked the Pete-MJ relationship and/or thought that Spidey was better when Pete was single. Either way, he decided that Pete and MJ's marriage had to go, so go it did.

[@lolhaipop]

This maybe after what if? Civil war but it was worst arc for Peter. If he didn't reveal his identity we may never got OMD

[@keyblademasterclark]

OMD can burn in hell!

[@dreadxll9688]

OMD?

[@lolhaipop]

@@dreadxll9688 one more day. Worst story arc in history of Spider-Man comics.

[@bojeck5733]

​@@lolhaipopwhat's it about?

[@trevturp6891]

Spider-Man and MJ would have been divorced and broken up regardless.

[@katiesonierfanpage]

“keep laughing fat boy” hit me harder than expected😂.

[@NoodIndigo]

Kingpin was already facing time for his crimes and was still able to reek havoc completely unfettered. The system failed MISERABLY at every single point in this story. What else is there to do but kill him?

[@cosmicreef5858]

i can agree with this

[@fellowpassenger_54-67]

This is one of the main reasons why I don’t read DC and Marvel comics, if the system is so corrupt that killing the villain is the only way to stop them from committing more crimes than the person that refuses to kill them despite being able to isn’t a “hero that takes the high ground” in my books, it’s just irresponsibility that leads to more loss of life and damage to society I understand the message they try to convey with the no killing rule, I would be more than fine with it if there were other options other than killing that would permanently end the problem It’s just that it feels like this rule is moreso used as an excuse for DC and Marvel to keep recycling the same villains rather than showing us killing isn’t the only way and that there are solutions that actually work long term

[@C.G.Gaster]

@@fellowpassenger_54-67I think the worst part is when they give punishments for a justifiable death. Look at injustice, superman was right to do what he did to joker, and only became the villain when he became a dictator in my eyes.

[@Teth47]

This is why I hate Batman so much. Irresponsible billionaire with childish morals repeatedly standing by and allowing mass death and tragedy to occur over and over again because he can't stomach doing the dirty work. He wants to play hero while people around him die, and feel like the good guy because he doesn't carry a gun. He is directly responsible for at least thousands of deaths, just by letting the Joker alone live, let alone any of his other villains. Arkham has proven itself to be a revolving door, there's nowhere else to put these tyrants and murderers except in the ground, where they can't kill thousands of people. It's not even murder half the time, it's self-defense. The guy's actively trying to kill you, you're allowed to snap his neck.

[@silversoulken]

It’s what separates comics from manga a good 90% of the time. And why I have enjoyed manga a lot more in my adult years.

[@Angelovizk]

This comic hits so close to real world. lts infuriating to say the bare minimum. Evil ppl doing w.e them want, stealing, killing, molesting (to don't say the R word) and more, and most the time nothing happens but as soon as a good citizen decides that has had enough and start doing justice with their own hands, suddenly everyone remember that laws exist and you magically become a very dangerous person and "a menane to society" criminal Honestly, l think Spider Man held back a lot yet. lf l was in his situation, l don't think I'd hold back enough (or at all) to let Tony alive, just saying. Only someone who has lost a loved one "prematurely"(you know what l mean by that) knows the pain Peter is feeling.

[@GunaMask]

true

[@KarlPHorse]

It's cowardice on the part of the authorities. It's easier to arrest a law abiding citizen than a dangerous criminal. So when Bill the local postman shoots a guy trying to violate his daughter, the scum in our system see an easy arrest, because they know he will comply. Whereas, the reason they never did anything about the violator, is because he could be armed and dangerous, so they just ignored him. This is part of the reason for the current crime epidemic in major us cities. The cops won't do anything about the brazen criminals, but as soon as an ordinary person has had enough and intervenes, the cops swoop in on that person like jackals.

[@Nempo13]

@@KarlPHorse No, this has nothing to do with the crime epidemic in major us cities. Look at your DA in major cities. Almost every last one is a far left stooge that treats the violent offender as a victim and the actual victim as a criminal. The DA's in every major us city have been refusing to prosecute people! Police have been cut off at the knees in these cities and have been resigning/leaving the cities. It matters nothing if the police arrest the guy only for the DA office to refuse to prosecute and thus set the guy free. THIS is the problem with major us cities. DA office and judges not prosecuting or handing out insanely light sentences for crimes that should be 20+ years. This is why you don't see crime spikes happening outside the cities. Those areas aren't in the city DA's office jurisdiction and thus crime is actually held accountable. Votes matters, and who you vote for has consequences. Pay attention to what they do, not just what they say. Under no circumstances do you pay attention to what mainstream media tells you. For the past 20 years they have been nothing but propaganda peddlers anyway. The problem was never the police force, it was always the judges and prosecutors not doing their jobs.

[@VimyGlide]

you better start believing in anarcho-tyranny, bud. YOU LIVE UNDER IT.

[@cosmicreef5858]

It is not justice but it is justified. They are not on the wrong here regardless. Also the whole point of having a brain is that you are capable of understanding any innocent around you and preventing any bad thing from happening. You do NOT need to live through the same trauma to understand how serious it is and that an abuser getting killed by their victims are completely justified and not a crime.

[@silverblade357]

Aunt May crying on Iron Man's shoulder makes me want to backhand her.

[@RickyUzumaki993]

Same here

[@thatguyalpha6318]

Ah yes, another story where peter is hurt, but plot twist this time, he's WRONG for killing the person trying to kill another person

[@Chronic_Gainz]

One of the things that doesn’t hold up in comics is the idea of people not thinking some of these villains should die. Like it is totally believable in real life that people would want most of these villains dead after awhile. Especially when they are responsible for so many deaths. Just my opinion. Also, Aunt May would actually understand Peter’s reasoning in the scenario 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@calanon534]

Joker was one, in DC. Some incarnations of him are beyond the pale, and just need to die, but are kept around by the writers to torture Bruce or someone else, or make the death some pivotal moment. Like in the Injustice arc. That Joker should have been on a slab long before he did what he did.

[@NickCTorres]

the thing is, in real life there would not be an "after a while", they would be stopped by the hero and their arcs ends forever, maybe some of them are resourceful enough to escape or get freed one or two times and that's it, prisons and asylum's walls aren't made of cardboard and corruption on the justice system can only get you out for so long but due to comics perpetual continuity, they're required to come out again and again and keep causing death and destruction until the end of time, whether you kill them (Punisher) or not (Batman) it makes little to no difference for the crime and death rate Sike, its been repeatedly stated how Batman has actually made a significant difference in reducing crime in Gotham and not only that, in the current canon he's gotten a few of his villains truly reformed: Mr Freeze and Ivy, even Harley is more of an antihero nowadays until some other writter wants to uses them as a villains again at least

[@monogamousmatt546]

"Spider-Man stops holding back" "Batman humiliates ___" Same energy.

[@screwgoogle4993]

What "energy"? What's your point here?

[@shard7549]

The (You are about to watch them wreck someone) energy.

[@innovator90]

Moments like this was when I fully hated Tony. 😒 Peter’s life was never the same after Civil War.

[@Icemario87]

I just hate acolytes of enforced consent.

[@retronerds6884]

Exactly and Tony's all to blame

[@PriestApostate]

Just out of curiosity: is Peter's identity still known to the world?

[@retronerds6884]

@@PriestApostate no

[@PriestApostate]

@@retronerds6884 how was that fixed?

[@shinatoIV]

They really treated Peter like the bullied kid in school that decided to fight back and still make him out as the bad person smh

[@dragothdarqlaw156]

Peter was a reasonable guy pushed to do unreasonable things. Fisk earned his death and iron man is pushing the limits.

[@apext2238]

Bro I have never witnessed more gaslighting in any piece of media in my entire life. Is the reader the only person that understands each and every decision that peter made was not only right but justified???

[@zeeb2190]

Don't forget the artists (they didn't get the memo that iron man is, somehow, supposed to be in the right while drawing him either)

[@cosmicreef5858]

yep I know right?

[@Mysticgamer]

​@@zeeb2190Either that or they feel it's bullshit too.

[@young_prophet_jay]

I’m over here yelling shut up aunt May 😂 how you switch up like that when the King pin was going to kill you no matter what 😅😅

[@ggt47]

You see moments like this is why I can never really call Iron Man a hero.

[@edmondYJ]

This is the best Peter. His actions were 100% justified.

[@ELICARIO12345]

If it was Pepper pots Fisk killed i garentee you Toney would do the same damn thing

[@HarlanMalkavian]

Tony doesn't deserve to be called Stark XD

[@tronjavolta]

4:40 why is the writing like this? why couldn't she just tell peter he did the right thing? he did.

[@Ozzymandius1]

This universe’s version of Aunt May can kick rocks imho.

[@luqwasylangluqwaomoro5513]

Dom Toretto as Spider Man: No one hurts my family and lives

[@forkempty]

This reminds me of the time Spider-Man stopped holding back.

[@majnunmajnun4491]

Spider man's strength is unlimited 💪

[@Moss_Dude]

It isn't, but it's still very impressive

[@flamelover1746]

Amazing even

[@WhiteWomanSlasher]

@@flamelover1746Spectacular even.

[@TheHonoredOneHimself]

@@WhiteWomanSlasher Its an Ultimate feat of strength

[@ALxeFDK]

@@TheHonoredOneHimself superior compared to other heros

[@darrylferguson3622]

Iron Man was such an idiot in this arc. He would know damn well what he would have done if one of his villains had Pepper killed, he arrives on the scene to see Fisk's dead body and Aunt May next to two beaten police officers. He obviously can't turn a complete blind eye to Peter killing Fisk but the 'duress' principle would easily cover this Edit: Scratch that. He's an idiotic asshat. Peter shouldn't have married MJ? Joining Ironman's side meant his family could finally use the Avenger's mansion as a safehouse, he literally called her his "friend" minutes ago, and he has the nerve to think someone like Fisk would not try to play the system he created? Peter should have broken his arms

[@cosmicreef5858]

why wouldn't he can turn a blind eye over a hero doing their job and takes another DANGEROUS PSYCHOPATHIC VILLAIN off the world's shoulders? seriously! This is self defense and the defense of literally anyone innocent

[@cosmicreef5858]

Why would not he can turn a blind eye over someone killing for selfense? Also a WELL KNOWN PSYCHOPATH WHO KILLS INNOCENT PEOPLE? Dumb mad eup logic. People do not owe an explanation after a justified killing like that.

[@drparadox7833]

Peter is the most dangerous hero in Marvel. EVERYONE IS LUCKY that uncle Ben taught him well cause a single punch from him is enough to kill a metahuman on the spot and coupled with his other powers he can be a real beast. Thank God he is holding back.

[@leonwendker3610]

Doc Ock learned this, while he controlled Peters Body. One punch against Scorpions Jaw, it flew off. Since then, i realised, Peter CAN eventually kill a Person with one Punch, if he had the right reason. And this, this comic (and a second one, where May got shot) shows how u can let peter lose his morality. Another quote from another persons comment: If Peter stops making jokes and funny puns, then you know, shit gets real.

[@russianmen-vb3hx]

@@leonwendker3610 Bro can do a mortal combat finisher in 0.1 milliseconds mate. Thats how op Peter actually is

[@krevor4095]

Wait until Stark finds out Jarvis was shot.

[@aidanalvarez2963]

5:15 Oh F**k no, Aunt May crying on Iron Man’s shoulder would have been the last straw for me if I was in Peter’s situation

[@williamj.dovejr.8613]

I love when black suit Spider Man shows up.

[@HerpDerpTheTank]

Wait a minute, I thought Peter pushed Mary Jane out of the line of fire and May was shot. Is this a What-If or was the other version a What-If? I remember it being that May was shot, Peter went after Kingpin and didn’t kill him, but instead showed off exactly how much he holds back, making Kingpin realize Spidey could kill him in an instant if he ever wanted to. This was to send a message to him and any other villain who would target his loved ones: “I am way stronger than you ever realized, and I only hold back because you don’t give me a reason not to. Go after my family and I will turn you into paste.”

[@MeelogMalterion]

different time different storyline but its always the same thing....the writers love to torture Peter

[@eunumsei2258]

It is a "What If?..." comic.

[@hidan407]

3:27 Always amazes me when how the wise cracking spiderman gets dead serious, he outclasses other heroes so easily

[@aidanalvarez2963]

One of the many reasons why I love Mcu Tony it makes him look more human than in the comics

[@johncole015]

This is how every single fight with the Kingpin should have ended with one punch.

[@DeshaunHiggins]

To be fair Peter didn’t have the resources to protect his loved ones from his enemies like other hero’s did so revealing his identity should’ve been more deeply considered

[@huwjennings2695]

He did at the time, he and his family were staying at the Avengers tower. Then Peter objected to Tony locking up heroes without trial.

[@asurashun9695]

that reaction of aunt may is way out of character

[@NevTheDeranged]

How many times has Peter gone apeshit on Kingpin? At least twice.

[@Dangerpurple]

Personally, I think it's immoral to put a loved one in the position where they either have to watch you die, or have you hate them for killing your would be murderer. None of my family members would disown me for killing someone to defend their life.

[@robertmandl9326]

.... I wonder if they actually ever included Tonys reaction in this comic when he just a little later learned that Fisks men killed Jarvis.

[@aenstreams1998]

Aunt May sure is a wet friggin blanket.

[@user-ez5zu3ju1i]

“Mark stop holding back”

[@gregoriomunoz4754]

The funny part about him "cutting loose" is he still holds back and takes it easy on Stark

[@EzraColdsGarage]

This whole storyline was just character assassination of everyone involved

[@RickyUzumaki993]

Agreed

[@zeeb2190]

Except mj who had the mercy of being granted a regular assassination

[@keyblademasterclark]

Why couldn't THIS have been the story we got instead of One More Day? This is SOOOO much better!

[@franessjoestar2793]

What are you talking about, this sucks too

[@keyblademasterclark]

@@franessjoestar2793 You're not wrong, but it at LEAST makes a hell of a lot more sense then selling your marriage to the devil in order to save your dying aunt who would WANT you to let her go

[@silverblade357]

I'd kinda love to see this case play out in court. No jury on the planet would convict Peter Parker. Matt Murdock or Jen Walters could also easily twist the trial against the SHRA or Tony Stark. The fact that Tony, the FBI, and SHIELD were all in Kingpin's pocket would be incendiary.

[@flymetothemoon6848]

@@keyblademasterclark fym this makes alot more sense bro, mj got shot dead, peter either had to kill fisk or he and aunt may will die AND THEY STILL MAKE HIM THE VILLAIN CUZ HE KILLED FISK.

[@keyblademasterclark]

@@flymetothemoon6848 I agree. This storyline makes more sense than One More Day.

[@alexz4752]

This is realistically how all no-kill rules should work. There is no justification for letting more innocent people die when alternatives to killing are no longer possible or reasonable. When Batman or whoever else says "Killing is a line I can't cross," but gets more blood on their hands by not being a few people's direct cause of death, I call bad writing because that's crossing an even worse line: putting people in the danger you're supposed to save them from. I'm all for redemption and rehabilitation, but that isn't always possible, especially when the possibility of it comes at the cost of others. It's my second-biggest gripe with superhero stories, and I like it when writers gain some self-awareness over it, like in this story.

[@elitemook4234]

The Joker would have been shot dead by some random cop decades ago.

[@BeAsTMoDE528]

Batman is insane, I feel like that's something that a lot of people refuse to accept. He's a rich kid whos parents died and now hes paranoid, dresses as a bat and beats the shit out of people while refusing to interact with people unless hes playing pretend as bruce wayne. The "no-kill" rule works for him because hes clearly out of his fucking mind. He even says himself part of the reason he doesnt kill is because he might just lose it and start killing constantly. He's not doing it for rehabilitation, at least not entirely. He is genuinely restraining himself. A lot of DC characters are similar, they just are (poorly) written to be essentially gods so if they start taking it on themselves to kill people then the injustice universe happens. Im really not entirely sure why the government doesn't just execute them too, thats part of why the heroes refuse to kill, its not their call, Superman and Batman wouldn't break joker out of an execution though.

[@1996creeper]

This reminds me of a robot chicken skit where Batman helps send the Joker to the eletric chair due to all of his crimes which will kill him. Realisticly most super-powered baddies would just be flat out killed with lethal injection and the like if we had to deal with them due to how many deaths they cause.

[@prska]

that's not bad writing at all, batman doesn't kill because he can't stand the idea of being a killer, batman is supposed to have a stronger willpower than spiderman, if every hero is supposed to be the same then what's the point of having multiple no-killing heroes with the same arc and story? i'm sorry but you should read/watch more stories if you consider that sort of thing as "bad writing"

[@alexz4752]

@@prska Failing at your job of saving people because you refuse to use lethal force when necessary might as well be the same thing as killing those you let down yourself. When the story doesn't acknowledge this, it is no longer worth my time.

[@coledavidson5630]

Wait is this an AU or something? Isn't Aunt May supposed to die instead of MJ?

[@osmano675]

It's a What If.

[@Central_Zensation]

This is the original story. The one where aunt may gets shot is a what if story

[@UnlimitedIvory]

​@DecepticonProductions no Aunt May getting shot is the original. It's the whole reason one more day exists.

[@DazedN7]

​@@UnlimitedIvory He's a decepticon. Don't listen to him

[@UnlimitedIvory]

@@DazedN7 I see

[@zeronime284]

How can anyone sees Peter as the criminal? This is the first time Peter is doing the right thing, to kill to protect your loved ones

[@rafaelcuenca9091]

Kingpin didn’t calculate that punch 😅

[@xultimatemh4113]

That's why I prefer the MCU version of Civil War. At least in it Iron Man is less stupid and Spiderman doesn't suffer unnecessarily.

[@atlas_of_prescottia]

Iron Man accuses Peter of cold-blooded murder, but this seems like a pretty clear example of hot-blooded murder.

[@PaulKing-cm1uj]

The worst thing peter actually did was reveal his identity to the world. You'd think other superheroes who wanted to reveal their identities would learn a lesson after what happened to iron man and pepper potts. If you're going to register with the government, fine, I wouldn't, but at the very least, keep your identity a secret. Especially if you have friends and family that you care about.

[@huwjennings2695]

There's a civil war What If that shows the heroes entrusting their identities to Cap rather than the government, and it works.

[@PaulKing-cm1uj]

@@huwjennings2695 I remember that one. I actually thought it was pretty interesting. It wouldn't be such a bad thing for heroes to reveal their identities if those scumbag criminals weren't so petty.

[@Badname2011]

Stark is always the villain. And it always comes from irresponsibility.

[@Joelima834]

Man on that black air force energy homie smoking the pack

[@pariiah1036]

one of the coldest deliveries tbh "Didn't your butler tell you? DON'T YOU KNOW!?"

[@everettbasnight1981]

If I was him I would have nothing to lose

[@r0dos]

Peter: kills a killer to save his aunt Aunt may: I don’t want to talk you anymore 🗿

[@edgebringr3494]

I don’t think his aunt would be like that. Her being held at gun point, and then yelling at Peter. Yes they lost his wife and that could be the grief talking…

[@cosmicreef5858]

and this is why you do not gaslight them with it? Aunt may is a literal sociopath in this

[@edgebringr3494]

@@cosmicreef5858 not a sociopath. A sociapath wouldn’t act like that in regards to others. If in cases where they do, it’d be a lot colder.

[@jamesyates4319]

If Marvel had printed this, instead of One More Day, I'd still be reading Spiderman.

[@commanderwolf_gaming5191]

To be honest, when spider man was being recruited for either side of civil war, he should have just said piss off , on both sides , neither side was right. And after civil war everyone trams back up to fight again, yeah right people dont forgot that easy. Shield protecting Fisk..... WT? Never protect people like that, Fisk should have been locked in solidarity confinement and never have a human soul approach him , with no outside contact ever. But we all know that wouldn't sell, so they do stories like this.

[@Vietmac1993]

Peter would have to leave the country if that were to happen. The question is where would he go

[@commanderwolf_gaming5191]

@@Vietmac1993 somewhere with tall buildings 😋

[@zenordx4978]

im glad they atleast show that peter is smart in this because im tired of him always getting shitted on and NOT USING THAT DAMN BRAIN HE GOT

[@BlyssOblyvion]

just so everyone's aware, he didn't PUNCH kingpin, he PUT HIS FIST THROUGH HIS CHEST instantly

[@kuno3336]

I feel like this comic also highlights how wild it is that Peter would choose to save May over MJ

[@RickyUzumaki993]

Agreed