The 2017 NHL Draft Was Supposed To Be HORRIBLE... What Happened?

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[@RobTalksHockey]

Who will the best player from this draft class in 10 years?

[@sanderssportshow]

I think Pettersson

[@payton6405]

petey 100%

[@mariawalker3642]

Cale makar

[@mattmontoya8562]

Heiskanen he’s dominating playoffs already

[@colepaliwoda]

Mmmmmmmm idk probably Pettersson

[@kylethomas1953]

No one talks about Nico Hischier man..... I’ve watched just about every Devils game that he has played in and man oh man he is a gem on both sides of the puck

[@alexz6502]

Facts...Hischier Is verry underrated

[@roofpizza1250]

What the rest of the league still doesn't get is that Petey's a 200 ft player.

[@n00RBERGx]

They will see it, just wait for it ;)

[@jasmeg2844]

Yup. Pettersson is Datsyuk with better reach.

[@Rometiklan]

Agree. Love his style of play. Awesome work ethic. It'll be a privilege to watch him develop into an even better player.

[@stevenrosscarpenter]

Also, he's 6'2" so he'll be a force to deal with once he fills out.

[@roofpizza1250]

@@stevenrosscarpenter Too much muscle slows down some quicker guys so I don't expect him to become a gym rat.

[@Rometiklan]

I'll admit, when Pettersson took the stage, I saw a skinny kid who looked like he was going to hurt himself if the wind blew too hard. Man, was I ever wrong. 2017 has emerged as one of the best draft classes in a while...it's going to be a great ride watching these guys dominate the league and win their share of awards over the next decade.

[@JohnB-mo4kq]

Which only solidifies the fact that literally no one can predict 100% what an 18yr old highschooler is going to do in the NHL. Aside from the extremely rare generational talent. I still think there should be a rule that you have to be at least 20 to be draft eligible.

[@LOFISILL]

I remember when I watched the draft and the comments on the chat were something like "Another nordic bust who we will not hear again".

[@gershomtan5879]

Watching him floor guys right now is crazy. He seems like a soft spoken kid but he plays with a real edge to his game. Hes like Peter Forsberg minus the frame but with one of the sickest shots I've personally ever seen.

[@christianm5372]

I’m a Canes fan, and I must admit, this goal by Nico is unreal. He isn’t undressing an AHL D-Man, hes is undressing Jaccob Slavin, who is considered one of the best if not the best Defensive Defenseman in the world. Don’t count him out either. He just has a really bad supporting cast. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4ucYWp8aNWcfZY

[@zacharywilliams3675]

Bro 2nd Video in a row I see ur comment

[@mikelitoris6923]

This has growed to be my favorite hockeytalk channel in KZbin! Keep up the good work, and soon you will hit 100k subs im sure!

[@quinlanb7193]

Top 5: Pettersson, Makar/Heiskanen (so close between the 2 idk who to put at 2 and who at 3), Hischier, Suzuki. Pettersson is no question the best, Makar has more offensive potential but Heiskanen has a more rounded game, both will be top 5 dmen and consistent Norris finalists, Hischier will win a selke or 2 and put up 65-75 points a season in his prime, and suzuki will be a good no. 1 centre putting up 70-80 points in his prime. Plus there’s Nolan Patrick who still has 60 point potential

[@Zaghzackio]

Hopefully patrick can come back strong

[@bradynhughes]

A year ago I would’ve agreed with you, but now I say Makar, Heiskanen, Pettersson

[@adamkosacky940]

What about Martin Necas he looks pretty good now.

[@gershomtan5879]

Love to see u talk hockey bruv, moved to Singapore a couple years back and I still stream every canucks game i can get. Keep on grinding bruv, this sub might be hella late but it's also extremely well deserved. Keep doing what u do Rob, really appreciate your hard work.

[@nickv1111]

Really good video on an interesting draft. It's also interesting how those three top 5 picks that worked out all helped elevate their teams in this year's playoffs.

[@NHLMasterLikeAndSUBSCRIBE]

1. petey 2. miro or makar make ur pick 3. again miro or makar make ur pick

[@macstalder8264]

Miro all day

[@Augustberglind]

Makar first overall in my redraft he has so mcuh talent

[@Augustberglind]

@@macstalder8264 Makar is better

[@jjmuti3979]

@@Augustberglind I'm an avs fan but I'd say he is better offensively and more flashy. Heiskanen at this point has a much better two-way game than Makar.

[@tomp6879]

To me its impossible to say who is better between Miro and Makar. They are both great. 1A and 1B to me. Makar is more offensive but Miro is offensive too. Miro is more defensive but Makar holds his own. Cant go wrong with either pick. For right now it has to go to Miro because he has been so instrumental to the Stars being where they are right now.

[@munk0640]

Love the new format. Also love the creative video ideas. I love seeing outside of the box content, not the typical videos that everyone else does!

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks dude!

[@rugbyelite1361]

Loved the new format. I'm not surprised your hockey channel is growing so fast your videos are suggested in my feed almost everyday. You are part of my favourite top two hockey KZbinrs. It's basically between you and the hockey guy.

[@RobTalksHockey]

Haha thanks dude!

[@valttering]

Really cool video, liked how you noted the no pressure aspect of the underdog draft class and development in national or lower level leagues. Wonder how Kakko or Hughes wouldve faired their rookie season with a season or two of development under their belt

[@LiveLXStudios]

“No generational player” *Makar took that personally*

[@Austin-wv5st]

Great vid man keep up the good work you deserve more subs

[@justinguenther6111]

I like the stats videos, but I also love the change up with a greater focus on the story that unfolded. Love your videos. Keep them coming.

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks for the feedback! : )

[@MsCastlelover100]

The new format is awesome! Keep up the good work man! 😊

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks my man! 👍

[@nicholaspostma3024]

Haven’t been subscribed that long but you are killin it man. Would love to see more stuff like this as well as videos like your tier lists 👍

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks dude 👍

[@ruudvanvoss5686]

The only issue I have with this channel it’s so amazing it creates an addiction! Amazing work mate love it

[@AlphaPrimeYT-Transformers]

Good Content. Love the video and play by play. Appreciate the effort you put in to get your views.

[@TheDannielboy]

This channel is my favorite discovery of the year! You do a great job and always have interesting subjects!

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thank you! I truly appreciate that.

[@magenhildrethmagenhildreth8901]

Top 5: Pettersson, Makar/Heiskanen (so close between the 2 idk who to put at 2 and who at 3), Hischier, Suzuki. Pettersson is no question the best, Makar has more offensive potential but Heiskanen has a more rounded game, both will be top 5 dmen and consistent Norris finalists, Hischier will win a selke or 2 and put up 65-75 points a season in his prime, and suzuki will be a good no. 1 centre putting up 70-80 points in his prime. Plus there’s Nolan Patrick who still has 60 point potential

[@PuthSardaraDha]

Rob you’ve done such a great job dropping vids and growing your channel.

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks dude!

[@dylankennedy9383]

There honestly some of the best hockey video's on KZbin!

[@brandonlewis4513]

First thing , great channel and content! Old school perspective here, I grew up with an awesome homer channel covering Vancouver sports. Its segment had some of the greatest local greats doing a half hour show, it was called Sports Page. Cast that I can remember, Barry MacDonald, Dave Randorf, Paul Carson, Craig MacEwen, Blake Price, Dan Murphy, John Shorthouse, and of course the huge favourite Don Taylor. Sorry if I forgot anyone , been so long. Sportsnet and TSN robbed sports page of all it's talent and Vancouver television never really replaced the great sports page cast. I think channels like yours kind of helps fill the void of Vancouver's loss of Sports Page! Maybe see for yourself some old Sports Page segments , Vancouver was lucky to have these local legends covering Vancouver sports. It is missed. You do an awesome job, keep up the good work!

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thank you! I really appreciate the insight and feedback.

[@historyrepeating]

OMG I had a teacher who’s brother-in-law worked at Sports Page and I remember the whole class got really excited when she said that lol.

[@BDawgStudio]

Hey man. U r right. Uve improved a lot. Love the jersey on the wall. Throw a Ronning one up there :)

[@jdomed0880]

Great segment Rob!👍

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks dude!

[@Ryski74]

Definitely one of your best videos Rob 👍

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks dude!

[@krazychallenges4436]

EP40 is my dads favorite player, and he’s also my favorite Canucks player besides Quinn Hughes. Both are amazing player, and I believe that both will light up the league someday. My favorite player out of the 2017 draft may be Nico Hischier but I love Petey. As for Patrick, he is the biggest bust of the century, besides yakupov. Another one of my favs from the 2017 draft is Morgan Geekie! He’s gonna crack the nhl this upcoming season. Also love this channel! it’s my fav channel of all time! Edit: I literally wrote 6 pages about this draft in school the other day. my poor teacher has to read all 6 pages of that piece and 8 pages about nhl busts lol

[@xMaximusDecimusx]

Awesome Vid man!

[@s.p.8508]

Yooooooooo, almost 30k dude!!!!! Growing so fast! You deserve it Rob, lets get to 50k! ~first 200 sub (i know you know, just flexing to everyone else)

[@RobTalksHockey]

Haha of course

[@sunnygill8323]

Love your videos when you transitioned from making Canucks videos to all around NHL teams your channel has really blossomed into a way way way way better channel

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks for the longtime support! 👍

[@munk0640]

Don't hesitate to make a Canucks video every once in a while though ;)

[@bigdawg210]

Keep an eye on Kailer Yamamoto who was picked 22nd in that draft, he was a huge part of what was the best line in hockey after the new year hit last season with Draisaitl and Nugent-Hopkins, he was at a point per game pace since his call up

[@robcase5397]

Nice work. That was a good video

[@Laughlin83]

Awesome video man👍

[@agnesharley5655]

I love the song at the end!

[@scooterelway9191]

your content is awesome keep it up!

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks dude!

[@tomp6879]

There were some gems that went overlooked, like Pettersson, Makar, and Heiskanen. Chytil, Suzuki, and Necas have been good. But some duds too like Andersson and Patrick imo, and some less-than-stellar picks in Mittelstadt. It was definitely a weird draft looking back.

[@johanericsson7309]

I remember watching Mittelstadt in the World Juniors, and thought Buffalo had just got a steal picking him at #8...

[@talesofsymphonia295]

As a Canucks fan, I was devastated that they got shafted from getting the 1st overall pick again in 2017. But in hindsight, that draft worked out for them quite well. I think since Hischier's gone through some injury patches over the past few seasons, his development hasn't been on the same trajectory as maybe the 3rd to 5th picks; he still has been showing really positive signs in his development. He's an All-Star, for sure, but we will see in the next few years if he's able to get to superstar status alongside Heiskanen, Makar and Pettersson.

[@wnsbug]

6:33 WTF THAT GOLD HELMET SO COOL

[@jaimewoydon8862]

Awesome video! Keep up the good work :-)

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thank you : )

[@AlistersA]

This is better, keep doing this

[@RepublicofGamerzMC]

Even look at Gabe Vilardi... a kings fan so im very hyped about Gabe. But Gabe had to get over Spondylitis which took him damn near 3 years to heal from, but now that he's in the NHL and with the Kings he looks amazing. Dude had 7 points in his first 10 games, all the scouts had him going from 3-7ish and they all said he wasn't going to be good bc he can't skate... I think he'll be fine if he keeps playing the way he finished the year.

[@matlevass5244]

Great vid!!!

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks dude!

[@renegadeshockey7769]

love the content

[@nathanlastiwka8822]

Dude please do a video on crazy low draft picks that turned into awesome players. Such as Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Mark Stone, I’m sure there are plenty of players like this to make a good video. I think those are some big steals. Datsyuk, like really a HOF player drafted so late is insane!

[@justinlast2lastharder749]

Datsyuk was only drafted so low because the Red Wings were the only ones that got to scout him. A freak storm prevented other scouts from getting to the game they were supposed to watch.

[@caitlinpeters2579]

Woah didn't know Gabriel Vilardi was ranked higher than he was drafted. I'm happy the Kings got him at #11 his development was delayed with a back injury but he's really done well for us so far. Maybe not a seen as a steal in the future but a solid pick.

[@joonaaleksi3556]

Goood good good stuff mate!

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks my dude!

[@saltywingsandavsfan]

Gabe Vilardi was also picked in this draft and I think he fits well in LA so far. He also fell too I think was supposed to be a top 5 pick

[@Gorenj8]

Every time you talk about the 2017 draft you barley mention Nico Hischier and dismiss him as an ok player, but not that good. You are mistaken, Nico is a future Selke trophy winner and 2-way SUPERSTAR. Imo he won’t be as good as Bergeron, but close. Maybe on the level of a Ryan O’Rielly or Sean Couturier.

[@mikeyyyy7896]

I personally think nico is a better skater and is more skilled than Bergeron so he can bring a better offensive production

[@RobTalksHockey]

I definitely could talk about him more! But I don’t know where you get the impression of me saying he’s just “okay” I have never said that, in fact I always emphasize that I am a huge fan of Nico, i always have been, and that he is a great 2 way player. Now with that being said, I talk about Makar, Miro and Pettersson more because they are objectively on a completely different level than Hischier

[@Gorenj8]

I’m sorry, I overreacted. I’m a big Devils fan, so I kind of get a little offended because u talk about the 2017 draft so much, but barely talk about Nico.

[@nhlvan]

highly doubt he'll be a perennial selke contender. He just seems like a good but not great player.

[@Gorenj8]

NHL VAN, how much/often do you watch the Devils?

[@karlmanchur9906]

I would argue the 2016 draft year had two first round first overall picks in both Matthews and Laine. Both players are incredible, Laine has had some issues but once he develops his game and find a proper linemate like Paul Stasny was, he's going to be incredible like Matthews is.

[@fordhamshaut4860]

We also can’t forget about the Rangers future 2nd line center in Filip Chytil going 21st and how every Ranger fan was PISSED when they drafted him

[@ryanheppell8348]

Rob bro, I got another video idea 💡 how about like top 10 players robbed/beat out of an award? Or never won? Like Luongo - Vezina, Zubov - Norris, Thornton - Stanley Cup, stuff like that

[@Buffexxx]

Eeli tolavan lets go buddy he used to play for my local hockey team named Sioux City musketeers in the USHL

[@SushiParty]

This is why fans need to just shut up and cool it sometimes. So many people were frothing at the mouth when Pettersson was draft 5th overall and now he is emerging as the best out of that 2017 draft. I can't wait to see him playing again next year and dominating the league.

[@TheNewHope31]

I'm a devs fan and was pretty disappointed with the Nico pick at the time. I'm so glad now. Not just because he's proven to be a way better pick than Patrick, but I also I think he is an extremely underrated player. Most people don't watch dev games (for good reason), but he has been developing into a premier two-way player. Also, off topic but, having watched a lot of games, I can I don't believe Hughes is a bust. He just looked under-sized and he lacked snipers to finish a lot of the chances he was dishing. His eye for the game and his skating skills are going to help him grow into a phenomenal player.

[@krazychallenges4436]

Ethan Dante Bello also a devs fan and yeah nico is 🔥. So glad he was selected over Patrick or else devs would be screwed.

[@chrisammann9]

To be fair to him, Patrick has had some injury problems in the past couple of seasons. Hischier is probably the better pick but don’t write Patrick off until we can see what he does when healthy

[@tomp6879]

I dont know, Nico over Pettersson, Makar, or Heiskanen? To me Nico should have been 4 or 5, not 1.

[@rebecca4680]

@@tomp6879 . Keep in mind we're saying these things with hindsight. As explained in the video, there was no consensus for draft positions in 2017, no one knew where anyone would be drafted. Plus, drafting is always a bit of a gamble because you don't know exactly how these players will adapt and develop. Now we can see that Pettersson should've gone 1st followed by Heiskanen or Makar, then Hischier, but at the time no one really knew. Hischier was considered good enough at the time, and he is doing well now, so him going 1st overall back then is not undeserved.

[@jackb9830]

So far, Elias Pettersson, Miro Heiskanen, and Cale Makar are 3 great players that could maybe be Hall of Famers at some point. Nico Hishier and Robert Thomas are decent players with Hishier maybe catching these other 3. However, guys like Casey Mittelstadt, Cody Glass, and Lias Andersson have been very underwhelming so far and could turn into busts. Worst of all, Nolan Patrick could potentially be one of the biggest busts of all time. Now it's STILL EARLY so I'm not writing any of these guys off. But so far as of now...

[@guyami8892]

6:34 some guy has a helmet made out of gold???? Goldmember is on the team???

[@Cracktopus.]

In the Liiga the scoring leader (points-wise) for every team gets to wear a golden helmet.

[@ChooseFreshAtSubway]

LetTheNapalmRain that’s wild 😂

[@kagomefan101]

Just goes to show that the draft is a total roll of the dice. Impossible to predict.

[@jacobematt6222]

This is alternate history, nobody was really that surprised that Nico went first on draft day. Ray Shero was extremely not subtle about how he liked Nico more

[@MarquisdeSuave]

I mean, the first 3 picks vary from "he's alight" to "this guy sucks". And then comes Makar, the best defenseman in the league.

[@luke8838]

Do videos about old school hockey pls

[@Kimberlii1123]

We’re not just your supporters Robbie, we’re your fans😎😎

[@RobTalksHockey]

Haha!

[@westalkshockey231]

Such a nice draft

[@GusMacGus313]

RTH, should more NHL teams start doing loan deals with European clubs for prospects? Will we see a future where more young guys follow Auston Matthews and play in Europe against men? Please make a video on this!!! Huge fan

[@evanwagstaff8074]

Whats an amazing video

[@julialockrem7237]

Can’t forget about Oettinger

[@travisbrewer2922]

You gotta give Nico some more credit here. He’s still one of the best players to come from this draft, and the Devils made the right decision between him and Nolan Patrick

[@stevedematteo3933]

Rangers made that trade for #7 for the purpose of drafting Petersson. Man...I wish he made it to them. Imagine...Stepan and Rantta for Petersson and DeAngelo. Can't really complain tho...Rangers are in good shape. Also..Chytil is an under rated player from this draft. He is still just 20yrs old and has 30 goal upside. If he can round out his game and get a little stronger..I see a 60pt 2C.

[@dsc4178]

Better draft than anticipated. Leafs: well.....

[@spencerjohnston2079]

Patty has a lot of potential and once he is healthy he will ba a big piece for the flyers

[@colepaliwoda]

Lol Bob McKenzie was so wrong

[@roofpizza1250]

He's retiring. lol.

[@danielanderson6368]

Don't forget steal of the draft Yamamoto at 22

[@gingerkillazzz]

You should do a video on players that were robbed awards ie. johnny gaudreau shouldve won calder over ekblad

[@samuellarsson101]

Jim Benning compensated with Elias for Virtanen and Juolevi

[@stevenrosscarpenter]

Having Elias as a #1 Centre is amazing, but I'd give Virtanen and Juolevi 2 more years before making a verdict. The best is yet to come for both players.

[@yeetyeet6450]

Petterson's probably gonna be the best player but i feel like Suzuki aint gonna be far behind

[@chrisphillips5935]

I think Makar will or Robert Thomas will be the best players with the most success in the next 10 years

[@bho30758]

Cale Makar is def my favorite out of that class

[@LaFllamme]

I was saying hischier was better than Patrick all year that year, glad he went first

[@tfreeman133]

I still think the Flyers should've let Patrick develop a little longer rather than bring him right up to the NHL. I mean his migraine issue probably would've happened regardless but I still think they might've screwed his development up. Hopefully I'm wrong.

[@quinlanb7193]

tfreeman133 no he had played 3 seasons in junior already and was an NHL caliber player he has just had awful injury luck so far-still got top 6 potential for sure if he can rebound

[@krzyk101]

just poor luck. Patrick was quite old for his draft year, i dont think another year in juniors would have helped him too much. Also I think Patrick had a miss diagnosis for an injury in juniors and the Flyers wanted to get him under their medical staff. Injuries have held Nolan Patrick back, not him being rushed. He's missed three straight training camps because injuries. Poor dude has maybe had some of the worst injury luck in recent memory.

[@quinlanb7193]

Krzyk yeah he was like 2 days too young for being eligible for the 2016 draft

[@adamfraser2329]

Top 10 talent from this draft 10 Kailer Yamamoto 9 nick suzuki 8 Gabriel vilardi 7 Cody glass 6 Martin necas 5 Nolan patrick 4 Nico hishier 3 Miro 2 cale 1 petey

[@TwoNNsB]

Sens fan here. Keep your eye on Batherson, he's going to turn some heads next season

[@brennanconway19]

I think 1.Makar 2. Miro 3.Petey 4.Nico

[@UchihaItachi1986]

The Wings wasted their first top 10 pick in 2 1/2 decades on a guy who's probably a bottom 6 center.

[@jarynvecchio6433]

Good video but Owen Tippett also went in the top 10

[@stonecold7113]

Tippet went in the top 10

[@proceid6709]

3 in 2017 correct, Owen Tippett went tenth

[@oadjapsihdaobd3405]

Honestly I feel that Heiskanen is the best player in the draft. I mean this guy is 3 wins away from a cup, and he’s leading his team in points! I absolutely love pettersson but he hasn’t accomplished jack shit for his team except a playoff exit.

[@melisagustafsson3414]

It’s a team game. Pettersson had 18 points he more than held his own. They play two of the most important positions and to compare them is apple’s to oranges. I think the are at this point equal in talent and usefulness to there teams. If Seattle could start there team and had to pick one I personally think a first line center is a no brainer and then you get your defensemen

[@dmp7856]

Elias Pettersson happened

[@gershomtan5879]

Lol the best part is benning getting killed for picking petey. Buddy looks like a genius taking him at 5.

[@marcroy5089]

Montreal with KK is kind similar, at least I feel like I can say that after Hai playoffs

[@LD-rn6lh]

they were all just really under weight lol it made for some supremely fast and smoove skaters

[@Bedwetter69420]

Do best 1 for 1 NHL STAR tesdes

[@michaels2502]

Nolan will have more points than Nico in 2020-21.

[@HushPuppy106]

It was not that good. Only like 10 are playing in the NHL and after 15 it was all nothings. 2nd round is all no names also. And out of the 10 playing inlys like only 3 are very big for their team

[@munk0640]

1. Pettersson 2. Heiskanen 3. Suzuki

[@macstalder8264]

Miro #1

[@joeydstoenail]

Honestly the Nhl is by far the worst Big 4 sport at promoting and hyping up drafts

[@austindennis2503]

Go watch the draft everyone knew hicheier was going 1 and Patrick 2 they had no idea who after that but they had a good idea

[@RobTalksHockey]

The commentators may have known, but the majority of scouts still had Patrick at #1. But it was nearly split down the middle

[@jasonsmith5226]

If you are a scout,& you said Makar should go in the 6th round..you should be out of scouting immediately. I can see difference of opinion,& missing on guys, but come on. And look how he was at UMass, so it's not like he was just a late bloomer. Everything about this kid has screamed future star-or solid pro, worst case-since I became aware of him, his 1st season at UMass. I would love to talk to that idiot.

[@RobTalksHockey]

Sadly it was many idiots. Many scouts didn't take Makar serious because he wasn't playing in the WHL. Little did they know

[@p_malandra884]

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[@RobTalksHockey]

Heyo

[@user-ny7hh9fy3o]

why am i in this video