The 2020 Lexus GS-F Is a Bad New Car, But a Great Used One

[@ForTehNguyen]

you can get these on the used market for 50k, great at that price, and a unicorn of an engine a japanese 5.0 V8

[@haruchiopagani3367]

As a M5 and C63 owner, all the things Doug mentioned that makes the German cars technologically superior to the GS-F are the exact features that ironically makes them unreliable. Lexus may be very late to the technology party, but I'm certain that Lexus owners don't suffer from anxiety of being stranded on the side of the road due to unreliable tech as some of us BMW and Mercedes owners do ;)

[@Matys1975]

The people that buy Lexus cars are well aware that German luxury cars are better than Japanese cars…..when everything is functioning in the German car as it should…..and that’s why they buy a Lexus 😂

[@MrPugheaven]

100%

[@driveonthestraightpath2138]

@@Matys1975 exactly my point. Lexus is a very good company besides reliability but it’s behind the Germans. But I wouldn’t give up my reliability for those german features that I lose thank u very much. I abuse the hell out of my Lexus sometimes 4500- redlining it for 10 mins straight on back roads many times

[@510cj8]

people dont understand that german cars are only "unreliable" because they take that risk to add all the newest tech. but real enthusiasts know they make bullet proof motors.

[@chrisk920]

@@Matys1975 Owned Audi's for 20 years. Never bought one with less than 40k on the clock. Always reliable. This car is a Camry on steroids and it's for boring people who have boring high paid jobs.

[@crazygrape1907]

The “this” at the beginning of each episode gives me life

[@mpkp2011]

Theory: its not the "this", but the "ssssssss" following that provides the essential lifeforce

[@ultraguy8771]

Well if you die, you will respawn at the hospital anyway, unlike most of us.

[@insertgoodusername8138]

Hey frank, you up for a heist??😂

[@Rosbergen80]

Who listen to thissss couple of times

[@4y4n]

Then THISSSSS is the video for you kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4G1oZJ3obR8npo

[@corymiller1618]

Just how cool is an AMG or M5 when it’s mechanically totaled after 100k miles while the GS-F is just getting broken in?

[@wavyheat305]

Heard. No. Fuking. Lies.

[@Out5Here]

Right lol

[@LuanNguyen-np5ii]

If you had the money to buy an AMg or an M5 then you wouldn't have to worry about fixing it. Have you ever seen anyone cry in an M5?

[@wavyheat305]

Nguyen Luan are you being sarcastic? E60 and F10 M5 came from the factory with defaults. Lotta folks crying in a M5

[@LuanNguyen-np5ii]

It aint Ralph tho. Like I said I'm not saying the M5 is better than lexus gs F in term of relibility. Just saying if I'm going to put my money on a luxury performance car, I'm going for german no matter what. I'm not like those people who have $30K and spend $30K on a car. If I want to buy a $50K car then I should have at least $150K in my bank. Most people who buy high end cars have no money for repair hence the reason why they keep crying.

[@saab95performance89]

Doug: “I’ve borrowed this car from a local owner here who is going to be extremely disappointed when they watch this.”

[@kef103]

Saab95Performance Why do I get the feeling you are excited you get to break the news to this person ?

[@apt62]

GORDO EINSTEIN Chris Harris and Jeremy clarkson likes it...so should we listen to a youtuber who buys used Mercedes wagon and 90s Land Rover or the pros?

[@SienjorQueso]

@@apt62 he didn't say he didn't like it... He just said it was a bit overpriced

[@johanneswielenga6902]

@@apt62 I mean listen to whoever you want, but Doug laid out some pretty objective numbers and what he is saying in this video makes a lot of sense. So what if Clarkson likes the car, does that mean it's worth it for 90k? You do you bro.

[@braetonwilson4296]

@@johanneswielenga6902 No one buys it new for 90k and Doug is being deceptive by stating that in the video. People receive huge manufacturer rebates and dealership discounts and end up buying it for 75k, not bad for such a reliable car.

[@curtisprestia3918]

Doug when he answers the phone: THISSSSS, is Doug Demuro

[@ernodios]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH you made my day bro

[@curtisprestia3918]

@@ernodios Lol thanks

[@maximiliand2939]

Probably his mailbox aswell lmao

[@Maniacguy2777]

@O 99 no a conversation Doug score. Lol

[@Yusep27]

Starting in the clarity and tone category..

[@imanonymous335]

Imagine Doug being your Uber passenger while he roasts your whole whip

[@AfrikanAssassin]

I’m Anonymous 😂

[@christophertabor7893]

I'd rather listen to him pick apart a car than the Arrogant Asian. Anyone know who I'm calling out? All you bloggers out there let me know.

[@GR-uc1gq]

@@christophertabor7893 the gay one?

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Looks like someone is getting 1 star or maybe 2. Naw 1 is good for the roaster. ;)

[@NullBrass]

(Doug gets in the back) Thissss is a piece of sh^$!t

[@maxblumenfeld5824]

I'm taking this over an amg or m car every time cause it's got rwd, 0 turbo lag, and japanese reliability. 460hp is more than enough

[@EndeavorsDnB]

Yup

[@ihteshamkhan4696]

it also looks way better than a Benz imo

[@thelethalhunter177]

​@@ihteshamkhan4696 and definitely better than an M5.

[@ericnga]

I've been an AMG enthusiast all my life but this right here has stolen my love for them. Those HP wars are pointless what can you do with 600hp other than get your license taken away honestly? With this even if I get gapped I'll still have more fun while at it

[@brucebaldwin7682]

I'm with y'all on this. I'm a repeat AMG owner and still own and love them. But what people don't understand is Lexus is offering people the last of a dying breed-oldworld-no bullshëēt driving experience in style and luxury. N/A large displacement V8, solid brakes, no gimmicky nannies/technology, plush interior. Doug is in another world.

[@googleaccount6931]

7:30 hearing that exhaust noise for 15+ years sounds like a win to me. The bmw and Mercedes are just meant to last until the lease is up

[@mauricio6216]

So??? Every one that buys this cars, use IT knowing that. For A luxury car, reliability is meaningless.

[@googleaccount6931]

mauricio Rivero Stumpf I strongly disagree with your statement about reliability being meaningless in a luxury car. If I’m paying $90,000 for a luxury car I expect it to be reliable and not some pretty machine that’s gonna break at 50,000 miles. Also if reliability was so meaningless in luxury cars then why is Lexus doing so well in the luxury car market?!!!!!??? Obviously some people care about reliability in their luxury cars.

[@oscar3444]

People who buy luxury cars new usually only want it for less than 5 years. Long term reliability isn't a concern for them.

[@googleaccount6931]

Oscar it doesn’t matter if the owner is going to keep the car for a week or for 17 years...... the cars should still be reliable.

[@coolcarsNT]

@@oscar3444 well for somebody who works hard for their money and is buying a luxury car to keep for a long time, they will definitely care lol. That's only the billionaires who don't care about reliability, plus they will rather buy a rolls royce or a sport car than a Toyota

[@lordprotectorhaythamkenway6495]

THISSSS is my closet full of cargo shorts

[@ashp5406]

Doug Moved across country to Southern California so that he can use all of his shorts all the time

[@oblivion5703]

Featured comment.

[@motorcycleryder]

''Thvizz'' he pronounce like this

[@timjenkins8538]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SamDeCam1]

Its because cargo shorts have the most quirks and features of all the shorts.

[@stevehislop]

Acceleration is „weak“ at 0-60 in 4.5 seconds?...What a time to be alive.

[@rohanmahendru6610]

He said that in regards to the high pricing of a car. We get cars wit better acceleration at this price.

[@RandomiMies4444]

It's weak compared to E63 and M5

[@dannyhernandez2728]

Tesla is better for the price

[@viperatech]

My 2008 550i is 0-60 in 4.7 and cost me close to $8,000 CAD so yeah, considering what this friggin thing costs... it's weak.

[@hasangenc2922]

@@dannyhernandez2728 Teslas are trash tho. Built like a 86 Yugo.

[@beekaye1496]

I just bought a brand new one for $69347 with 13 miles on it yesterday. The sticker was $89049. No dealing at all. I love it

[@swright4171]

How’s it been?

[@beekaye1496]

@@swright4171 I love it, it is super fast, comfortable, reliable and fun to drive. This summer has been a time driving in the mid Atlantic.

[@swright4171]

@Bee Kaye sounds delightful. I wish you many more happy miles!

[@UJickedC0bra]

How did you get such a great deal off sticker?

[@beekaye1496]

@@UJickedC0bra when Lexus announced the end of the GS, the GSF was in the show room for about 7 months and the manager wanted to get rid of it. Also i had purchased two other Lexus years before from this dealer.

[@kalactose348]

Rip to the guy who lent his car to Doug

[@JuanGar21]

CNC MOTORS 😂😂

[@rickc2102]

It'll manage to be the perfect car for some middle-management schlub out there with more money than taste.

[@apt62]

Rick C top gear and the grand tour actually ranked this car very high.

[@WhatNotYT]

Lucky for the guy that owns it, he won't care about the value, because unlike any BMW, Mercedes, or ANYTHING, this car will last a good while, whereas the others will break down much too soon.

[@andrew.woolman7449]

I'm that guy. I lent it to Doug but made him promise to do something for me in return. I made Doug promise to bugger my bootyhole real good until I'm bleedin and screaming in delight. Doug delivered as promise and we both loved it. Doug is in the closet, his wife is a beard lol.

[@TheEmpoleon123456789]

"not all that high performance" 477 HP from a high revving 5.0L V8 with no forced induction... I would also argue that the GS-F is not actually competing with the M5/E63s, but rather the M-performance and 43-line variants of those platforms. Lexus never developed a turbocharged V8 engine for any of their cars, and they don't seem interested in getting into that market because of cost and lack of clout.

[@bk_nreynolds3278]

Yeah but it’s sorta priced above those. I do think you’re right though, I just thing that it wasn’t competitively priced

[@abalakrishnan4152]

@@bk_nreynolds3278 It IS competitively priced with the E53, which, well-optioned, costs over $90k, and the BMW 540i, which is about $80k. 0-60 - GSF: 4.5 - E53 4MATIC: 4.4 - 540i xDrive: 4.6

[@DrCartof]

Yes, and look where that lead them. They had to cancel the GS.

[@CoolizBrown]

A Balakrishnan the blow is a whole 10k cheaper so it doesn’t compete with that bmw

[@howiefeltersnatch7905]

The LS is twin turbo'd. And lexus is bribing out another 600hp twin turbo for their LC

[@thaiwin6173]

Coming from someone who works at a used car dealership, these things are an amazing value and experience for around $35000-$40000.

[@Matt_The_Hugenot]

The problem buying them used is they've held their value too well.

[@kevinbarry71]

Thai Win yes, and even better is the LS460

[@hds8182]

Kevin Barry the ls460 is definitely not better than the gsf

[@californiadetailing7687]

I’ll stick with my local Lexus dealership lol. Got our Gs 350 brand NEW for 35k-45k. Used for 35-40 k isn’t really reasonable if I could get a brand new one for a few grand more. I have to agree with you on the experience part for sure 😂

[@kevinbarry71]

California Detailing remember, the price he quoted is for a dealer. And his commission. Much better to buy from the original owner.

[@piyapolphetmunee3879]

"It doesn't have enough power" 467hp not enough? That's a lot of HP from a 5.0 NA V8.

[@iPhoneAppReviewer]

Piyapol Phetmunee For the price it’s not enough power and being mated to a torque converter automatic trans isn’t helping either.

[@piyapolphetmunee3879]

@@iPhoneAppReviewer an NA engined car with that much power is hard to find these days. Everything is turbocharged now. From my experience, anything over 450 hp is too much for normal roads anyway.

[@americanstylefreak]

@@piyapolphetmunee3879 Couldn't agree with you more.

[@h4ru_d3su]

@@iPhoneAppReviewer Hold My Supercharged.

[@piyapolphetmunee3879]

@@hunterrrdrives but the lexus will still have 467hp after 500k miles

[@Raven-uu7lb]

6:01 Doug: "F Brand might be dead..." My mind: *Press 'F' to pay respect*

[@Real_MisterSir]

Potential LC-F: *"Wake up sir, we got a sports brand to revive!"

[@Raven-uu7lb]

@@Real_MisterSir I gotta admit it is potential though

[@juliannunez8430]

F

[@JJ-iy8dx]

@@Real_MisterSir It's official

[@JJ-iy8dx]

LS-F, LC-F and LQ-F: "May we introduce ourselves?"

[@RageCannon-tf3ob]

Y'all talking about Doug and his seemingly endless pairs of cargo shorts but we haven't complimented him on his Nissan S-Cargo shirt yet.

[@richardwaltz7133]

Wonder how many folks noticed that? I thought it was a very nice touch....

[@roylaporte6541]

I’m waiting for the DD Plus/Patreon channel where he wears shirts WITH COLLARS!! Sign me up LOL

[@maxweinbach3996]

Doug: Do not buy the GSF as it has outdated technology Also Doug: Buy it in a few years

[@ApothecaryTerry]

I found that particularly hilarious since it's a few years old...buy a used one now! They are expensive new though...

[@saxopio6280]

He didn’t say don’t buy one, he said don’t buy one “NEW”. Big difference. He also explained why you should buy it used 2 or 3 years old. But you people don’t really listen.

[@ApothecaryTerry]

@@saxopio6280 As I said in my reply though, buy a used on now- Doug said wait and then the tech will be even more outdated, seems odd. Doug also usually gets really horny over having buttons for everything like the GS has and yet he didn't mention it...

[@maxweinbach3996]

Saxo Pio guess you didn’t find the humour in the post. My statements were true. Reasons or not

[@troytruong8246]

Techs are not outdated in the gs f. It has all features and options on the market has to offer. It might not look appealing to its competitors but it sure will last 20 years. Comparing lexus to euro cars is an insult to lexus. I have owned both bmws and lexus. Lexus is superior.

[@MrJared430]

Owned one.. one of the best driving cars I have owned

[@ryanb8736]

Why did you sell?

[@pastorofmuppets8834]

Curious about the other cars you've had - could be you've only had rubbish cars!

[@baselhs]

Jeremy Clarkson on The Grand Tour preferred the Lexus GS-F to the BMW M5. Also, anyone can create a good exhaust note but it’s much more difficult to create an amazing engine sound like this one

[@ApothecaryTerry]

Harris also rated the GS higher than the M5.

[@milosza1384]

That’s because both Jeremy and Harris have brains in contrast to this clown here.

[@Beer_Dad1975]

The 2UR-GSE is about as perfect as a mass produced V8 can be.

[@Beer_Dad1975]

@@milosza1384 I love it when he says "it doesn't have much power" - it's got 450bhp! Since when is that not a lot of power? Oh yeah, in KZbin land where everyone drives supercars all the time...

[@blessed7fold]

@@Beer_Dad1975 Exactly!

[@Seba91100]

Imagine someone renting your car just to get roasted

[@Charliefox71]

Joker666 DOUG: "Hi, can I borrow your car to make a video?" LEXUS OWNER: "Sure!" DOUG: "THHHHHHISSSS car sucks."

[@braetonwilson4296]

Doug didn't even roast it right. He mocked it for not having like a 1000 horsepower. Earth to Doug, this Lexus has more than enough horsepower and torque. Have ya heard of something called speed limits? 1000 horsepower is wasted on this or any car unless you drive it on the race track all the time. Get a clue, Doug.

[@trapsarentgay4195]

Holy shit I love seeing this same reposted comment on every video

[@NickKautz]

@@braetonwilson4296 Looks like we found the owner

[@PokerFace837]

Nick Kautz 😂

[@thirdpedalnirvana]

I’m really sad about the GS being cancelled. It’s a really underrated platform. It handles way better than it has any right to. I think if 60% of people who bought loaded out ES’s just test drove the GS, they’d have spent the same money on a GS because it’s just better to drive

[@Qwertyx017]

yeah my uncle has a 2018 GS350 F Sport and its good

[@lostalx]

I'm in the market and really sad that GS has no replacement, ES is an FWD and the NA V6 is all great and reliable but it lacks all the solid built in Japan like GS and the NA V8 with real massive Metal Intake Manifold, Metal Valve Cover, RWD platform advantage, superior handling. I hope I can find a great used GS F. This NA V8 will outlast any junk piece of crap that BMW or German dumpster fire VW pukes on. Shame. Now ES is going to lose NA V6 as well, the last run of NA engines at Lexus are now almost dead. The IS 500 F Sport is no GS F and the Apron issues on IS 500 are annoying plus GS F had Leather Interior with V8 IS 500 has Nuluxe nonsense, very very sad.

[@Horus4387]

Eh, I have a GS f sport (pre facelift) and it handles okay. I think you're overselling it.

[@trippplefive]

you can thank people like dougy over here for that.

[@bvedant]

Very few care about rear-wheel drive and good driving dynamics. The ES is the better car for those people who’d rather have more legroom and a more comfortable ride.

[@franka2743]

Ya, the Lexus is just getting broken in when a same year Mercedes or Beamer starts falling apart.

[@dragospahontu]

Exactly, and the 90k thing is not true, I went to a couple of dealers and I got basically a brand new one for under 80k. Tell me another car that competes with this that I can get new for that price.

[@SnazzyZubloids]

@@dragospahontu He's talking about sticker price, not sticker price minus loads of dealer incentives because the cars won't sell and Lexus is embarrassed to have them sitting around unsold.

[@dragospahontu]

@Yul Strokheet Al-Wauch exactly

[@dragospahontu]

@Yul Strokheet Al-Wauch compared to Lexus they do, compared to BMW they don't.

[@frankfarago2825]

@Yul Strokheet Al-Wauch Mercedes has gotta be the absolutely lowest quality motor vehicle sold today. Stay the heck away from them, new or used.

[@christianabad9982]

Doug: "The Lexus F brand might be dead." Me: "F"

[@milanb.6022]

Can i get an F for the F :)))

[@isaacho4573]

F

[@ammarskyline7075]

F

[@HI6HROLLA]

F

[@dickie8184]

F

[@luvjoebacon2915]

"Not as nice as a AMG" *Flash backs of dash creaks and plastic creaks from my 09 Kompressor* Getting a GS soon. Those things are built with quality. Will probably out live me.😂

[@cheapcargarage]

LuvJoeBacon No doubt! He loves German Junk!

[@chucky8894]

This is a really stupid comment tbh.

[@normanholmes11]

F

[@louisvidalinc2678]

@@chucky8894 triggered much?

[@kyleplatasilver]

@@chucky8894 I bet you own one junk merc HAHAHAHA

[@derekchisholm972]

The NA V8 is a great engine, all of the competition has turbos which makes it impossible to compete. GS F Sounds better and will last longer.

[@karambir87]

I had an ISF before and now a RCF. Transmission is very aggressive in sport+ and very relaxed in regular. Doug wouldn't realize that for having it for 6 hrs or a day. It takes time to learn how this car behaves in different modes. Lexus designed it that way. There are abused ISFs with over 300k miles with no issues. This car will last a million miles without any repairs with proper maintenance and no modification. Just delete the muffler and resonators and it sounds so good. I have people come upto me to say it sounds much better than mustangs and other American NA 5 ltr V8s all the time.

[@danial8040]

@KB L agreed

[@thivakarsaravanamuthu4744]

Thisss is amazing

[@Reiken2007]

Exactly this car has a v8 NA with 477ps How many cara do you know with a NA V8 in the maybe past 10 years? Not manny. I think the gsf is a very good car. It is expensive but you get a good amount of goodies in the base model. In a m5 you dont even get electric seats. Come on man.

[@john-danielmartin8753]

Having a less stressed engine will always lead to longevity

[@nasaa2884]

"Don't buy it, you know, unless you wanna keep it or use it frequently!" How many competitors do you see rolling around with 200-400k on the odometer while still looking mint inside and out? (before 2000s) TBF, I do agree that it is better value to buy it used, but that applies most cars. The difference is that this is among a small select group of modern cars that you can buy, frequently use, and keep for you the rest of your life with minimal maintenance expenses.

[@vr6gls]

Nahyan Suleman A lot actually. lol

[@Billfish57]

Lexus has a lot of those on the road. It's not a kids car, that's for sure.

[@OnlyPureSounds]

Have seen lexus with 1.8million miles these things are unbreakeble

[@vr6gls]

@@OnlyPureSounds You can find Mercedes with that many miles on them dude.

[@OnlyPureSounds]

vr6gls definitely not the new mercs after 2005 and then they have cost you a fortune where with the lexus nothing has been changed i am not a fanboy but Toyota and Lexus especially the older ones are like hard to break they are also not really on the occasion market because most people still use them

[@fredu87]

As a Lexus fan I need to admit, that Doug is right. Paying full price on it, well I would think twice. As an used car for half the price and still low mileage? Brilliant deal!

[@mussunmussun3536]

7:24 "Pretty good" ?? It is one of the best sounding cars i have heard on your channel

[@nooaparkatti4571]

I agree! To me it sounds far better than the BMW and Mercedes equivalents!

[@Sessions1]

The bmw sounds like garbage. Merc sounds beautiful and so does this. Worst sounding car is definitely the bmw. Honestly there isn’t any good sounding bmws at the moment.

[@FacuGonz3]

@@Sessions1 Yeah, the new BMW M cars sound more like a tuned Civic than a V8 lol

[@nooaparkatti4571]

@A real bisexual petrol-head Of course I don't. I like both Mercedes and BMW and people who drive them. I just disagree with Dougs opinion about them sounding better than this lexus. To me they all sound good but the lexuses naturally aspirated sound is more to my liking

[@Sessions1]

A real bisexual petrol-head worst sounding cars on the market. There’s v6 engines that sound better than any of the M cars. And I can’t stand the sound of a v6.

[@Axearis]

When some one breaks into dougs house Doug: THISSSSS IS A MOSBURG 500

[@dimarcodrahgi5866]

Very nice

[@carterlynn9707]

genuinely laughing out loud

[@SHAM_WOW]

Stolen comment

[@duelcard1391]

He lives in CALIFORNA though 😂

[@whoseyourchef2160]

Zero chance Doug owns a gun...

[@straightbusta2609]

Funny how this aged like milk, a used GS F with mods(which generally reduce value) sold for 70k$ on his own website. I'd like to see an M5 or an E63 sell for that money with similar mileage

[@zww7033]

45k is a good price to pay for those 70k is a scam

[@uziz8353]

@@zww7033 GSF is rare; the used car price for this car is high. ISF for example for 2012 is around 42k; so hence lies the answer

[@desiredfilm1071]

You're joking, right? I just saw an M5 competition with 25,000 miles on Facebook wholesale group go for $116k. One's with under 10k miles are going for up to $135k depending on spec or color.

[@uz1144]

@@desiredfilm1071 m5 are amazing cars, they just hold their values ina few years like these F cars.

[@lanceryderwilson8618]

This punk always hated every Lexus for some reason

[@NickFerraroFilms]

GSF exhaust sounds much better than the M5 lol, M5 is so muted from those turbos 😂

[@armands3153]

It's bigger and 'badder'.

[@Engineering_Rebel]

Yeah Lexus an ugly shit.

[@TheZG85]

@@Engineering_Rebel Lexus is a beauty, looks like japanese samurai face

[@Eddy-dn1jx]

@@TheZG85 The term Samurai implies Japanese origin. There's not Japanese Samurai, there is just Samurai.

[@louisvidalinc2678]

@@Eddy-dn1jx ok weeb, exept there were foreign samurai of Dutch French and British origin.

[@jahx8148]

Wowwwwwww. I was saving up to buy one of these hopefully by the end of the year and now thanks to dough the price is going to sky rocket

[@watchesandcaps2566]

Just filled out my calendar for 3 years exactly from today. Thanks Doug, now I don't have to worry about what used car to buy 3 years from now.

[@edward101697]

Just brought a GSF of this exact spec with 13k miles... I am stoked. And I must add that while yes the "tech is old" it's looks and design hold up ridiculously well and overall material quality, fit and finish, and ride quality is spectacular. The GS is going to be a chassis that will be dearly missed.

[@kadalkol]

Can you tell how much you paid for it? Prices are dropping (finally) on these…

[@TheBlastoise313]

@@kadalkol they are still overpriced. Lowest ones go for over 50k

[@mrsalviboy94]

Current lexus owner, most non Lexus owners don’t understand you buy quality and reliability not the latest newest technology, these cars hold out for a while unlike the most modern luxury competitors

[@s.k4471]

How much?

[@Beer_Dad1975]

& don't forget one of the best mass produced V8's ever built under the hood.

[@gaku3702]

3:17 Doug: “Why you should never buy it new and why you should seriously consider buying it used” No one buys the car new Audience that wants used car: Where the car at?

[@thingsandsuchandthelike]

I've had one of these for two years and have loved every second of it. Honestly fit and finish is better than cars twice the price and the engine and chassis are a dream. Could the transmission be geared a littler shorter and the infotainment be better? (yes and yes) But its such a great, fun daily driver and can fit 5 people comfortably and has 0 reliability issues. I plan on owning it for a long time to come. Glad you finally reviewed one doug!

[@bilbobaggins4710]

Can I have a ride?

[@TeutonicSpeedracer]

Same here!

[@apt62]

Japanese E39 M5

[@apt62]

Mike Pevency I have one you can drive it anytime

[@braetonwilson4296]

@@bilbobaggins4710 You can have a ride on my glistening pork sword anytime you want, my dear.

[@benhenderson8952]

Me: So Doug is it a good car? Doug: *Yes, but No*

[@o.alarrouk6609]

Doug: yes, but no, but yes, yet no

[@adityaravi3180]

f(yes)^-1

[@HughRussell06]

Yesn’t

[@erudzitis84]

It looks exactly like BMW 520 from the side

[@alpappalardi7044]

Ina few years it ended up getting even more value . Not only can’t you find one. Those who have one know they are bulletproof proof vehicles ,absolutely awesome.

[@deathstroke7316]

Car enthusiasts: we miss the naturally aspirated engines. They looked and sounded so cool *Lexus comes up with a naturally aspirated engine* Car enthusiasts: frankly, I'd rather have a car with turbos for better throttle response

[@oxernaut1527]

Death Stroke True

[@nicolasrosa37]

But turbos have worse throttle response son

[@richwvu]

Not throttle response, but low end-torque.

[@nothinghere7391]

Doug and most automotive journalists in the nutshell LMAO

[@asdfghjqwertyu1858]

Honnêtement, je préférerais avoir un moteur à aspiration naturelle plus fiable qui a une puissance décente, qu'un moteur turbo très rapide qui peut ne pas être aussi fiable.

[@syd_jzx100]

I feel like you were overly harsh with this review Doug. This car has everything except for a decent touchscreen system. Its good looking, its quick, has an amazing interior and an awesome NA V8 that sounds glorious and most importantly, 10x more reliable than any car being pumped out by the Germans. No doubt getting this car used for 40k USD is a steal.

[@MartinMio]

Which is exactly why he said it was a great used car. But new cars are reliable regardless of the brand, so why would you buy this new when you could get more for the same price?

[@xWaterTwist]

An amazing interior? Are u fucking blind?

[@caldera878]

Looks like any other So-cal asian owned GS on the street.

[@jim_isf]

This dudes sleeping, maybe even snoring bro period end of story!

[@lazynow1]

Doug has no class....is a tasteless piece of shit....

[@sheiladawg1664]

I had one of these from the dealer and I LIKED the display mouse. So much easier to navigate through menus without taking your eyes off the road as much. Once I got used to it it was much easier than shifting your whole body to easily reach the touch screen.

[@BM-yc2rx]

I have a GSF and it’s awesome 80k miles and swear to god it is getting better! I have no reason to lie. Clean your knees.

[@thelawfamilyproduction329]

So I've owned my 2017 GSF for 3 years. I drive it on the track, family and baby around. Normally I like Doug's videos alot. But I find this video very shallow and disappointing. A sports car is not all about HP and Torque but balance, brakes, chassis. Go watch Chris Harris's video on the GSF for a better review.

[@mainscrizz]

THIS!!!

[@J0J0McM0M0]

butthurt?

[@ApothecaryTerry]

Absolutely this. Clarkson also reviewed the GSF and rated it more highly than an M5 or M3 ("this flawed old-school charmer has them beat"). Matt from Carwow also compared it to an M2 in drifting and the GS won easily. Doug seems to be on his own in this one, although I don't doubt a lot of people in the comments who have never driven a GS will agree with him.

[@Z06ified]

Apothecary Terry - No, Doug is spot on. Clarkson made those comments nearly a decade ago. He wouldn’t make them now with an overpriced outdated GS-F against the latest M3 and M5.

[@ApothecaryTerry]

@@Z06ified The car's handling and sound haven't got any worse. It is a previous generation car so I do agree that it's not the right new car for many people now but this review still seems oddly biased- I'm a Doug fan and it surprised me. Bear in mind that he rated the RCF handling better than the GSF which I'm not aware of anyone else ever having done- it seems pretty unanimous elsewhere that the GSF is far superior to the RCF and yet Doug clearly disagrees (which he's entitled to do but it's very surprising). He also loved the sound and didn't complain about the power of the same engine in the LC500 but not in this, yet it's virtually the same (10bhp more, same sound). It's not just about other brands, the review seems harsh compared to even other Lexus models.

[@florinvid]

I still like this car, waiting to go down in price. Great naturally aspirated V8, RELIABLE , quality materials.

[@apt62]

Watch Chris Harris review on the gsf

[@richgall63]

Wade H 😂

[@Rapido20]

Butthurt owner detected

[@JoseSalazar-cg9ql]

Rapido20 he can’t like the car?

[@luigiarias4817]

You ain't nothing but a broke boi

[@EL-lr8fg]

Doug the type of guy to wear a seat belt when riding a bicycle.

[@omgitsme435]

Doug.. that exhaust sounds great.. it growls without being obnoxious.

[@Captaincodeinee]

This man just roasted Lexus for 23 mins 🤦🏽‍♂️💀🤣🤣

[@scottlauren3145]

Car is a fossil

[@chriskonte1909]

@john m That's not true, all cars break down even Toyotas and Lexus. And if you buy one of those in Germany these cars will hold up for 4-5 years without any problems. And let's be honest who wants an outdated car so why should I pick this Lexus japanese outdated scr*p

[@TrevForPresident]

john m meh, just don’t futz with the ECU for “free” power and you’ll be good

[@mattX5]

john m Not true at all. You are so incorrect

[@markberube5686]

I mean he doesn't deny it's a good deal for the money used - because it is. You get okay performance, okay tech (has had ACC/parking assist since 2016) and a crappy infotainment that can be retrofitted pretty easily to have Android Auto/Carplay with one of the most bullet proof powertrains available. It just sucks the price of these new are asinine to what it has.

[@ryanfowlow8034]

467hp is weak?? I think you've been too spoiled Doug.

[@michaeldandrea9648]

For 90k, I feel like it is. Lol

[@mrp4235]

AND!....he drives a station wagon/Mercedes🧐

[@mrp4235]

Caldera doesn’t have the luxury this car has tho.......2 different classes

[@mrp4235]

Caldera Notice-performance gets outdated first, hence why this cars performance (speed/tork /etc) is not “up to date”....honestly, I would rather have the “performance” mean-durability. This wins hands down.

[@MrMustangrick]

Ryan agree

[@RayanMADAO]

Japanese sedan with a NA v8, even if it's outdated it's desirable

[@stacia6678]

Yeah. The Grand Tour episode featuring this car actually shoes the reason why people might want it. The engine, while not that powerful, is not stupidly over turbocharged. It's for people who care about the driving experience, not people like Douggy boy who look at the numbers. Disliked the video.

[@CoolizBrown]

Zephyrus it’s just not competitive in the market

[@Natethegreat200c]

No one wants a Japanese v8 sedan 😂😂😂😂😂. This isn’t Japan. We want chargers and challengers.

[@onse8982]

@@Natethegreat200c and big macs and diabetes

[@DrCartof]

@@Natethegreat200c I live in europe, muscle cars are not really that popular here.

[@Rohoactr]

I’ll take this GS F Lex over any BMW or Benz any day of the week!

[@GrandmaKeith]

I've always liked the stacked exhaust on the F.

[@damcoentertainment3956]

JAGExecutiveServicesInc It’s definitely special and original

[@liberalPWNER]

I would agree with this, it looks unique.

[@cam043]

that's what I said, I dont see why ppl hate it 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@robstyles2675]

@@cam043 only doug hates it

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

2 of the outlets are fake though, so fail

[@Gr13fM4ch1n3]

Smoking Tire did a great review on this car. This is literally my dream car.

[@apt62]

Smoking tire and Chris Harris

[@bradenmchenry995]

It’s a good car just really slow for 90k

[@austinb.7744]

Oof sorry

[@Legend-lc9bv]

@@bradenmchenry995 naturally aspirated v8 no supercharger which 477hp what more can you ask for lol

[@laurenmartinez55]

Mine is the RC-F TE or the new NSX. Evidently Doug doesn't approve of either of our tastes, save the NSX

[@yudhabagaskara98]

At least it's more reliable than E63 and M5

[@svein-haraldribland8559]

Yudha Bagaskara Not important. Some people in the world have a little bit money.

[@d1sturb3d119]

@@svein-haraldribland8559 Some not all. Take a hike with that not important crap. Plenty of us want performance that comes with reliability. Only folks with money to burn don't care about that. Some of us are smarter than that.

[@mattc7879]

@@svein-haraldribland8559 with very little brains

[@SurneySingh]

I don’t even think money is the issue with unreliable cars. If a car doesn’t function, it’s not serving it’s purpose and the owner can’t enjoy it. For example, the Giulia QV. Great car that most wouldn’t own because it’ll be spending more time in the shop than on the road.

[@vipul_singh]

@@svein-haraldribland8559 Having spare money to spend on an unreliable product will not adequately compensate for the inconvenience and heartburn caused by car problems, especially if one is fastidious about his / her car.

[@microsoftmutt8277]

Now that I finished watching this video I’m going to buy one of these NEW!

[@lapamful]

Well, the GS's tech is still more advanced than Microsoft's software...

[@seanflannick9215]

Did you buy one? I bought a GS 350 F 2015 has almost the exact same features (minus the gauge changes and slalom modes) It is an awesomely fun car to drive and still looks and drives great!!!

[@mcc78405]

@@seanflannick9215 think you forgot the most important feature being the 5 liter v8 the GS F has, also functional vents and ducts and the F interior is different from F sport

[@SirValiantIII]

Despite the review, I'm already determined to upgrade my used RC F to a used GS F.

[@phipsk1259]

You can buy mine when the LC F comes out

[@SirValiantIII]

phi psk is it ultrasonic blue though?

[@phipsk1259]

@@SirValiantIII sadly, no.

[@SirValiantIII]

phi psk still great cars. And I SO SO hope they make the LC F

[@izayoiaifuyu]

Why?

[@PlainVlogs]

Doug the type of guy to spray cologne into the air and shimmy into the mist

[@80s_Boombox_Collector]

Better than just blasting the chest like most dipshits

[@bandtish]

😂

[@BlackScreen55]

😭😭

[@BobThe9534]

Doug the type of guy to put in the milk before the cereal

[@cam043]

18:08 when he starts the drive, the way he edits it makes it seem like THEEE LONGEST gear ever lmfaooo

[@mhh1995]

cam043 Dude I know...that made me laugh

[@jason5776]

Did he have it in sport mode 2

[@cam043]

@@mhh1995 I had to rewind a couple times to make sure I wasn't crazy

[@cam043]

@@jason5776 he had it in ultrasend lol

[@anmolbrar2766]

Doug have some serious problems with lexus 🤣🤣

[@andreasstolze3328]

it´s ,,has"

[@57Nights]

Seriously he’s so biased against it. He doesn’t realize 99% of m5 and e63 amg owners never use all the power in the car so what’s the point of having the extra hp? With BMW and Mercedes you’re paying so that people think you’re rich, with Lexus you’re paying for reliability to stay rich

[@anmolbrar2766]

@@57Nights i agree

[@kristians2704]

@@57Nights If you had the option to choose between 460hp or 600hp which would you want? Doug is right, it's a great used car because it's reliable but for people that buy/lease them new won't keep them long term.

[@57Nights]

@@kristians2704 This equivalency makes no sense at all because there will never be two identical cars with everything being the same except one has 460hp or 600hp. Sure the rivals such as the M5 and AMG have more horsepower but literally who cares? How many times in your life are you going to be using the extra 140hp? Wouldnt you rather sacrifice that horsepower to get a car that is practically bulletproof and will still be on the road after 10 years with no problems? All this high numbers crap is to impress people who know nothing about cars so they can brag about their high horsepower. Its why lexus cars like the is350/isf hold their value even after 10 years, while bmw/mercedes cars lose half their value after 3 years.

[@xilefxd23moin32]

My Cigarettes have a „No Smoking“ print ..

[@vladvulcan]

yeah, and many other bad words

[@christiangriffith225]

🤣🤣

[@hellrider7s922]

fun fact the ash tray is now being used for tissues or litter in general. instead of an actual ash tray

[@Eihei]

I would probably murder someone if they were smoking in my GS-F(if i owned one :D )

[@donl.townseliii242]

Lexus: Why should we eliminate the turn signal stalks we use Doug: Because I hate it Lexus: Ok

[@1bertoselastrae]

I have a Lexus, the turn signals are ANNOYING as fuck

[@ApothecaryTerry]

I have a Lexus and I've only had an issue a few times, but I'm definitely with him on this still, there's just no need.

[@CharlieN55]

@@ApothecaryTerry Some Ford models have them too... they're so bad. The people behind me probably think I'm drunk.

[@ApothecaryTerry]

​@@CharlieN55 99% of the time I like the fact that the auto-cancelling on them is so much better than "normal" indicators, it works basically perfectly. The other 1% of the time, I'm not sure if I did the lane change or turned them on fully, try to cancel them and seriously consider just slamming on the brakes and running in the hope nobody saw me. The 99% is not worth the 1% ☺ I reckon if they simply made it so you had to tap it an extra time to indicate one way having indicated the other in the last 3 seconds that would be perfect...

[@FrozenPlasmaOfficial_YT]

Always interesting to hear "not enough power" "slow" (4.6 Seconds to 60) when you are not allowed to drive faster than 75 miles :) Writing from Germany.

[@ishmamnaveel2198]

Well you can accelerate super fast to 75 miles(+ exceed 10 mph) and have short burst runs here and there and there are some places where you can break the rules without risk of consequences.

[@dannyvale3633]

*I’m American and this was explained to me a while back.* Speed Limits are way lower in the US so way more people are inclined to break them, so the theory is that you get the fastest car you can and let it run!

[@lukeholland6031]

Vasi Vallis Official Band Channel yes, its slow. everything is relative, you’re thick headed.

[@cargueone1971]

He’s talking when compared to the competition. He’s also saying it because performance sedan buyers have great German sedan choices that give you lots more power. Also we have 47,000 miles of interstate Highways vs 8000 in Germany with the Autobahn. With 500 percent more highways in the U.S., you have a better chance of finding an open road.

[@shoobadoo123]

Danny Vale speed limits are not slower than average in the US. In fact they are faster than most places: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_by_country#Countries

[@OS-hx4jk]

People will buy it partly for performance...but mainly for the fact that when the M5 and E63 become ferocious, appalling moneypits, the GS F will be needing only regular oil changes.

[@Nchinnam]

Me reviewing my car Doug style: THIIIISSSS is my shitbox but it takes me from point a to b without killing me sometimes.

[@GtGtiR32]

sometimes

[@RageCannon-tf3ob]

What do you mean sometimes

[@Photo0021]

"sometimes" Dodge Viper?

[@_LEONKING_]

@@Photo0021 yeah it has to be a Viper😂

[@adamthompson4072]

It can't even kill you properly? That car sucks

[@Artanis02sk]

I love how irrelevant durability is to Doug :D

[@shimona500]

Nobody cares about durability when it’s new and on lease. Only if it’s range rover bad, which bmws and mercs aren’t

[@Artanis02sk]

@@shimona500 I don't know how it is to have "new and on lease" and I never want to know >_>

[@andysedgley]

Doug's concern over durability depends very much on which brand of car he's reviewing!

[@shimona500]

@@Artanis02sk Yes, but most people looking to buy model year 2020 cars do. He's reviewing this one. If he were reviewing a 2016 one he'd say it's a "good used car". For 2020 one he's saying "it's a bad new car".

[@shrayesraman5192]

@@shimona500 Exactly that is Dougs point!

[@jb40now47]

"It is not as good a car as the M5 or AMG, it just lasts longer and is more reliable" Hahahahaha!

[@rubenbraekman4515]

Says a lot about not only Doug but also the rest of the customer market, people just don't give a sht about reliabillity and anymore

[@greatgallade]

I rather have a car that's worth less than a amg than spend the money on the amg and have to spend more time on repairs than actual driving, Mercedes and BMW cost a lot to fix up. I'd rather spend time driving the car rather than it having to spend time waiting to have it fixed.

[@themack5653]

He means performance is weaker than the two competition and all specs. however in the long run (over 60 k mileage) lexus is more reliable ,

[@jb40now47]

@@themack5653 Yup. I got that. They are only faster for about 50k miles. After that they are considerably slower than the Lexus. Mainly because they are sitting on the side of the road or in the shop getting another 4k in repairs. Stay safe out there.

[@themack5653]

@@jb40now47 Therefore luxury sport sedans are usually leased due to high deprecation value. this makes why reliability is not an issue.

[@omgitsme435]

This is a car I would absolutely buy new if I was in market for it.

[@asadkhan-qm1my]

Doug loves his unreliable cars, watch his earlier videos where his range rover was the darling of unreliability and the tumour for Carmax.

[@ChrisBrown-nv1lz]

I know...he likes Range Rovers. My God...could anything be a bigger piece of junk than those.

[@dommyjg]

He doesn't get Lexus

[@jgn1977]

He never has. Some how this car is not worth 90k but a BMW is with full knowledge it will be a hunk of junk in 3-5 years.

[@ChrisBrown-nv1lz]

@@simonburkeisable well said. terrible...just terrible

[@ChrisBrown-nv1lz]

@@dommyjg so true....what is the mark of good engineering? A car that lasts 2o years with nary a problem or one that goes 0-60 in 4 sec as opposed to 4.5?

[@jax1079]

I just had the RCF to test, and that 5.0 V8 is fantastic and totally worth picking up on the used car market. Doug is right: as tested, the Fs just don't stack up to their newer rivals, but that V8 is aces.

[@evernhamanderson]

Had a GS back in 2016. Best car we ever owned. Great to drive. Bullet-proof reliability and, at the time, adequate tech. However, the price just kept going up AND, as usual, Toyota/Lexus did nothing to really update the model to keep it contemporary.

[@Ismunoz]

Let’s be honest, Doug would’ve been all over this IF it had Mercedes badges.

[@patrickmartin3322]

Yeah we all know he doesn’t really like Lexus that much

[@user-yq6ov6ow7l]

No he wouldnt All Toyota products underperform compared to the competition. capability, quality, price……All cars are just a sliding scale of these factors and you can’t have then all. When you pick toyota you are choosing quality over capability.

[@lanceryderwilson8618]

Punk would be on his knees licking the tyres if it had Mercedes or BMW badges

[@AXELBONNAIRE]

@@user-yq6ov6ow7l quality ? Really ?

[@oscarvasquez3206]

@@lanceryderwilson8618 😂😂😆

[@rairadrai]

“Transmission takes a few seconds to”…instantly downshifts a couple of gears.

[@kylegordon9523]

it used to be the fastest transmission the world, with the original Lexus IS-F

[@rairadrai]

Kyle Gordon I understand the ZF 8HP is faster, I myself have an F10 5 series but the way he described this one’s transmission as slow...

[@rairadrai]

His reviews are getting bad slowly. I think it was the Avalon TRD and he didn’t even do an acceleration pull to let us hear the “sport exhaust”. Every other reviewer did an acceleration run in the Avalon TRD. Watch Raiti’s rides.

[@liberalPWNER]

You can see him nod his head twice, it took a while. It was similar to my 2011 XF which I paid about 12k. Its incredibly slow to my 2016 F Type R, which has the ZF, and I bought for 60% of this things retail. Hell, my Wrangler has the ZF and shifts faster.

[@rairadrai]

Kevin Mc Cusker I have an F10 5 series with the ZF 8 so, you don’t have to teach me about it. The GS Aisin is calibrated to be pretty quick. His reviews are just becoming dumb.

[@gaffgarion92]

I would kill for this car, test drove a used one and fell in love with it(though I cannot afford it). Settled for a Hyundai Genesis 5.0 R Spec which is plenty fun, but doesn't have the same character as this car. The exhaust opens up when you throttle it down a straight, and is choked unless you throw it into Sport Plus. The best sounding production V8 in its segment in my opinion, Mercedes, BMW and Audi don't have Yamaha tuning their exhaust notes like they did with the LFA and they sure as hell took some notes from that here. Will be buying one in the 30-35k range that's not salvage as soon as they go that low.

[@ssun8]

My gf just bought a used RC F and that thing sounds sooo sweet. 10x better than the 20 million Mustang/Camaro/Challenger that are driving around here. Plus I love the interior and the seats, even if some features are deemed "outdated".

[@ssun8]

@Fredo Bulllol I already own a car that's faster and sounds better than a scatpack/hellcat, but thanks for the recommendation. Not to mention there are way too many land boats running around.

[@marioStortuga]

This will be on the road with zero issues for a long time. While the rest of competitors will be Hoovie Garage next project car.

[@Proxyyy825]

mario soto the Kia will hold up tho. But the Tesla, Mercedes, and BMW will definitely be in Hoovie’s Garage in 3-4 years, But this Lexus isway too overpriced for what it is.

[@shrayesraman5192]

@@Proxyyy825 Tesla will keep driving for 20 yrs... No engine maintenance required!

[@Proxyyy825]

Shrayes Raman still a ton of electrical issues from the iPad, Not to mention when the battery runs out, and replacing it which will be pretty expensive. Of course tho the Tesla will still hold up better than the BMW and Mercedes.

[@shrayesraman5192]

David Zuluaga the battery does not run out. It has a lifetime that is true but that is some crazy amount for normal usage

[@brent1926]

Thank you somebody said it

[@jpete3027666]

The Lexus GS F is a work of art. A large luxury sedan that will last forever but also go 0-60 in 4.4 seconds. Doug, I’m not really sure you know what you’re talking about, respectfully.

[@gscthavoc3776]

"They are canceling the GS to the surprise of no one" thats just too funny

[@80s_Boombox_Collector]

That's only because the ES has gotten much more sporty, therefore there's less need for the GS which used to be the "sporty" Lexus. I still like it though.

[@gscthavoc3776]

@@80s_Boombox_Collector true

[@vbsource6209]

80's Boombox Collector True that. Though it’s sad that another nice RWD car is gone.

[@gscthavoc3776]

@@vbsource6209 yea

[@ms3173]

80's Boombox Collector The ES needs to remain a relaxed cruiser especially if it’s FWD

[@Trussme96]

The GS-F is the next logical step up from an E39 M5 if you're tired of living with an out of warranty BMW.

[@aaronrodriguez1410]

Or just get a v series cadillac

[@caglioso]

In blue this thing looks amazing. Tech is horrendous and Doug is right about it being overpriced. But still a dope ride, reliable as hell, rwd, naturally aspirated V8! I’ve convinced myself, I’ll try to find a used one now.

[@rahuldaryanani7292]

I’ve had a 2013 GS 350 since 2013. Through 7 years I’ve put over 100,000 miles on mine. I can tell you one bad flaw in this model is that the servo motor for the air conditioning system has broken down three times in 7 years. I was lucky the first 2 times as my car was under warranty till 2018 and it was fixed for free but in January 2020 it broke for the third time and to replace it with labor cost me $1400 US. It’s a very badly designed motor. It’s hidden behind the dashboard, so the company has to literally take apart the entire car from the inside to fix it. According to the dealership it’s a very common issue in this generation of the GS and ES models. Servo motor basically controls the air of the cabin and when it breaks down by default the vents stay open permanently so basically your car does not cool the interior at all. It’s terrible because I live in Dubai and temperatures reach way over 110 degrees Fahrenheit. That’s the only big issue I faced with my car.

[@rahuldaryanani7292]

@Frankie Basile the heat has been there for years. I have other vehicles as well and they don't face this problem, I have a Honda accord 2014 with over 130,000 miles on it now and it has never given me a problem like my GS has. I know it sucks but that's the reality, luxury doesn't always mean better quality. In fact in my experience luxury cars actually give you more problems over the years because of complex options in them. If you ever owned a Mercedes-Benz or BMW for 5+years, you will definitely face a few hiccups. Regarding the problem in the GS, its an extremely common issue in this generation because of the materials inside the servo motor are 90 percent plastic, countries like Japan and majority of the states in USA don't have extreme heat conditions like dubai. So a company as big as lexus can't customise internal parts for different countries, that will cost them hundreds of millions for changing just the outer shell of a servo motor in an already established production line plus plastic is obviously much cheaper to work with.

[@jasonn4597]

No way it’s so common for the ES models because it’s shares the same engine as Toyota Avalon & V6 Camry and those engines are way more reliable

[@rahuldaryanani7292]

@@jasonn4597 wow! So nice to see a reply 4 years later. I sold my GS in October 2020 and upgraded my car because cars were dirt cheap after the pandemic and car prices blew up a year after that. Anyways I wasn't talking about the cars motor, it was the SERVO MOTOR for the air conditioning system that opens and closes the vents for air recirculation. It broke for the 4th time in August 2020 and I sold my car, I couldn't take it anymore.

[@armaniftl260]

Have driven the GSF before, it’s actually so much fun

[@morskasvinka2413]

comparing to what?)

[@Shakenunez]

@@armaniftl260 thats why doug should shut up

[@Horus4387]

@@armaniftl260 maybe if you're driving on the highway, the m4 weighs 500 lb's less and makes about the same HP at 450.

[@superdestrier9160]

10 years down the line, this will become Hoovie's 1,232,678th midlife crisis mobile.

[@ayebing]

I think it’s too reliable for his tastes tbh

[@kgisabeast]

It wouldn’t have any problems to fix and make videos on

[@Uilliam56]

Doug invites a woman to his bedroom ...... *"THISSSSS is a custom made adult race car bed Let me tell you all of the interesting quirks and features of this bed, and I'll give it a Doug score"*

[@mothertruxkthesystem]

lmao that was hilarious

[@jesusjosecastillovilchez5778]

Ive borrowed this bed from a nightclub here in southern California

[@platypusalex7262]

Then I will give you a Doug score

[@lukeslytalker507]

lmao my laugh intensified as I read to the end, good one dude.

[@asdfghjqwertyu1858]

oh mon Dieu, ce commentaire est hilarant

[@safye4]

That exhaust doesn't just sound "decent."

[@MegaBrandon212]

Pretty lackluster when compared to other V8’s..sounds weak

[@huythai1222]

@@MegaBrandon212 all you hear from other v8s are farts bud, I think you’re dumb.

[@aaryeshg.6526]

@@MegaBrandon212 it's quite a sonorous V8. It rumbles, that's what classic NA V8s do. They rumble and sing. Today's turbocharged V8s all have farts, pops and bangs like a rallycar.

[@tygervoods8358]

Sounds nicer IMO the 6.2 and 5.0 Mercedes V8 might sound better (subjective) but this sound is more than just decent, I was really surprised ngl

[@jasonn4597]

@@MegaBrandon212then buy a mustang shelby gt500 or dodge charger hellcat if you think lexus v8 cars are weak

[@EDPistons]

Wow, I've been in the toilet for 23 minutes

[@mikehawk6175]

You gotta pump those numbers those are rookie numbers

[@sachemrock]

PatSatire , a big dump or just a long video? 🤪

[@DBLOCKJERSEY]

The Chosen One haha was thinking the same thing 😂😂😂

[@anonimushbosh]

The implication being you watched the whole video. Always wondered if anyone actually watches Doug’s videos from start to finish.

[@sachemrock]

anonymous bosch , most times I do! 🤪

[@dmj1419]

You're knocking the power compared to the Mercedes but Lexus reliability is light years ahead of Mercedes. I'd take a reliable Lexus with less power than a Mercedes always in the shop!

[@g32k]

That’s not true lol. Maybe a Mercedes thats 15 years old but newer Mercedes has really no reliability problems at all. Also, warranty.

[@connorburke5761]

Actually according to most websites like Consumer Reports the Mercedes cars are actually surprisingly reliable.

[@jp28491]

i mean worst comes to worst you could get a gsf slap a rrracingsupercharger on it make little over 700 to the wheel on stage 3 and still be cheaper then a new m5 or e63

[@bindingcurve]

@@g32k And after the warranty they are not worth a lot.

[@1assassyn]

@@g32k *Yet. These newer Mercedes are only a year or two old, the only way you can compare their reliability yet is if you go on a Europe road trip. I'd rather wait 5-15 years to talk about reliability.

[@rayb6350]

After watching Doug's Video, a commercial says, dramatically: THIS.. is a Tomato 🍅

[@Renalda5TV]

In typical overdramatic deep movie trailers voice

[@barronrh1964]

I took this car out for a test drive when it came out and was impressed with it. I came away from the drive thinking that car will reliably handle like that for as long as I own it. The only downside was the price, not the performance. It is a fantastic car.

[@ClaireYunFarronXIII]

DOUG: “...And it's just not all that good.” SCOTTY KILMER: *endless angry old man yelling*

[@johnbacon4997]

Scotty Kilmer is such a pinnacle of misinfo

[@msinna6433]

John Bacon why do you say that?

[@mauriciowinston5293]

@@johnbacon4997 honest self made millionaire mechanic (50 years) vs supercar fanboy. Yeah that's a tough choice about who's right about cars. Lol

[@kristians2704]

@@mauriciowinston5293 Scotty only likes cheap, boring cars like Toyotas and Hondas. He thinks that Porsche are bad sports cars and that Acura is better than Mercedes. He thinks that everyone is poor so everyone should buy shitty cars like him.

[@MrCarGuy]

The 2UR-GSE will never be outdated and should never be replaced with a turbocharged V6.

[@3UZFE]

MrCarGuy20 master piece of an engine

[@ardijanuar2036]

They should replace it with turbo v8

[@idokwatcher2062]

@@ardijanuar2036 Yeah and $180K price tag.

[@olinator9676]

Amen

[@austinb.7744]

Last time I was this early Doug drove a Viper over the Philly Phanatic.

[@michaelfjmusic]

18:14 LOL. Doug can talk shit on this car all he wants, but his face says it all. He loved driving this thing no matter how badly he doesn't want to admit it.

[@mrjon2805]

GSF was never in M5 or E63 class its 550i and E550 competitor.

[@jasper5097]

And it wins against them

[@alb12345672]

@@jasper5097 I have an 11 GS AWD. It gets 5.5sec 0-60 with a N/A v6 engine. It is also high mileage and cheaper to own than a Corolla. I hate to say it but its worth if you keep the car for a long time.

[@caleedjones8127]

Exactly

[@ACURACALABAR11]

What you are saying is true. But the price is way too much

[@mrjon2805]

@@ACURACALABAR11 how much do u think m550i costs?

[@iv8976]

Me: finally a modern Lexus vehicle! Me actually watching: ......... :/

[@googleleavemynamealone9145]

As he said in the beginning, its dying in a few weeks. Its literally a cancelled model, not a modern lexus.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Not a Lexus fan?

[@arnav7784]

The title should have been: *Rosting Lexus for 23 Minutes Straight*

[@TomTheCat.]

He maybe roasting it but it will last longer than any other car right now

[@BobThe9534]

Lexus would probably never lend him a car again

[@anariasiseve5349]

Not really. He was very positive about many aspects of the car.

[@apt62]

I have a gsf as a daily. I agreed with him! I purchased a certified used for 56k two yrs ago. It comes with 2 yr free maintenance 6 yr unlimited mileage warranty.

[@bradlemmond]

@@apt62 but is it a *B U M P E R T O B U M P E R* warranty?

[@PR-fs9os]

I sold german cars and i bought lexus. I had enough . broken many times german car. Now nothing happen.

[@Malcolm_Kennedy]

Your Lexus broke?

[@PR-fs9os]

@@Malcolm_Kennedy no, audi , vw

[@dragospahontu]

Exactly, and the 90k thing is not true, I went to a couple of dealers and I got basically a brand new one for under 80k. Tell me another car that competes with this that I can get new for that price.

[@mattstone3279]

Lexus GSF is a good car but not a great car I have a 2018 GSF and also owned an E92 M3 and E46 M3. The reliability, performance and luxury is unmatched I would take an E63 AMG S over the M5 or GSF but long term GSF will be a collectors car last V8 N/A from Lexus/Toyota brand.

[@dragospahontu]

@@mattstone3279 the new isf will have the V8. But yeah I've always bought Japanese cars, but also driven BMW's and Mercedes and they are fantastic cars, but I like keeping my cars for at least five years.

[@eduardomaluf6015]

It´s worth 89k because it has a feature no other competitor has: a CD player.

[@SERLAK2000]

For 5k extra you can even get a cassette player!

[@yeshayahu8358]

lol

[@ApothecaryTerry]

It's a DVD player too! Yeah I have no idea why but I kinda like that it has it anyway.

[@RomanticPopPunk]

And just like that the GSF is 50% more expensive on the used market

[@jseidl21]

? Based on what evidence? Nothing worse than a false claim. Ive been watching the prices daily for last two weeks you can still find one for $35k no problem.

[@RomanticPopPunk]

Jeff Seidl, it’s called speculation.

[@jseidl21]

RomanticPopPunk ahmy apologies I see that you were just bantering. You scared me though! Lol. I was hoping they didn’t go up after this and luckily they haven’t

[@juanbaritone244]

@@RomanticPopPunk Sounds like you have all the facts the way your statement is worded. No speculation in that statement.

[@RomanticPopPunk]

Juan Baritone, so? I never claim I’m a certified market researcher. It’s a god-damn meme that a used car’s price increases whenever Doug reviews it. Are you a boomer or just party pooper?

[@williamsmith4771]

*doug "it sounds pretty good" *me has a cargasm

[@avatar94100]

When he compared this glorious Exhaust Sound to the poor turbocharged Sound of the new C63 or M5 and called it bad, I lost my shit...

[@lauterbornie]

He hit rev limiter for once.

[@avatar94100]

@@lauterbornie if you modify the exhaust and headers it sounds ungodly. Like the best V8 Sound I've ever heard and the limiter is just brutal. Mark my words, I will buy an RCF when the right one comes around.

[@rickc2102]

Headers, catbacks, and a supercharger will set you up right. Fast as the turbocharged teutons but sounds like a proper machine.

[@alexlopez5800]

Why can't we just have a non - bias youtuber. Keep in mind that you also have people with a variety of taste. Not just European purists. Just saying...