The 2025 Toyota Camry is fantastic...but here's every nitpick I have with it.

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Kirk Kreifels

Kirk Kreifels

Күн бұрын

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@MiahV007
@MiahV007 4 ай бұрын
Car subscriptions have to be the dumbest thing. It already costs an arm and a leg to drive. Tolls, gas, insurance, maintenance etc. now subscriptions? OK 💀
@moribnd
@moribnd 4 ай бұрын
If a person lives close to a dealer, it can make sense as a bundle.
@jackfrost99
@jackfrost99 4 ай бұрын
It's a scam. They want you to download the app so they can track all your moves and then sell the info to the insurance companies then they jack up your rates.
@Gopinathk17
@Gopinathk17 4 ай бұрын
City/municipality tax as well.
@donaldpiper9763
@donaldpiper9763 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@moribnd- Living close to a dealership has nothing to do with a subscription service fee. So it makes no sense ,just another money maker for Toyota which is a big NO for me !!
@zaskarclf
@zaskarclf 4 ай бұрын
Literal charging you to send a signal thru the free Internet from your phone to your car. I'm waiting for hackers to create a work around. They always find a way. Short sighted greedy move, if they just gave u that functionality, it would create long term Brand affinity with its customer base.
@andylarios9983
@andylarios9983 4 ай бұрын
Everything is subscription these days. I’m sick of it
@RayanMADAO
@RayanMADAO 2 ай бұрын
Blame the MBAs at these companies looking to milk every cent from customers
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss Ай бұрын
I pay for 0 subscriptions i hate how terriblr that failed business strategy is.
@rumorscameras
@rumorscameras 28 күн бұрын
U can start with the key itself..the sub is for the app.
@escheidl
@escheidl 4 ай бұрын
Great video Kirk. This brings the car down to earth to the reality level. These are all the things that bring buyers remorse after you've signed your life away. The takeaway here? Keep it simple. The more tech you buy, the crazier you will be. I had a loaded 2023 Camry XSE AWD for a week as a loaner with all the bells and whistles while my 2018 base LE Hybrid was indisposed. The JBL audio system in the XSE drove me crazy with all the rattles coming from the panels. The safety feature that automatically slowed the car down for the corners drove me crazy. I found it and turned it off. (Whew!) The lane keeping assist made me angry with all the tugging of the wheel while I was driving. Off it went. The big 19" wheels felt heavy and took the nimbleness away that my 18 LE Hybrid had. The 360 camera was distracting and gave a terrible view when it rained due to water on the lenses which at times gave a false sense of security due to the image being distorted from the water. When I got my LE Hybrid back I felt like now I was now back in the sports car of Camry's! It was quicker, more nimble, much lighter feeling, and just more fun to drive. And my very nice sounding 6 speaker audio system had none of those rattles! So good to be home. 😊
@4af
@4af 4 ай бұрын
This is why I buy only base LE models without added tech features. Tech = electronic torture.
@dartagnan1954
@dartagnan1954 3 ай бұрын
Smart
@yw4635
@yw4635 3 ай бұрын
I want wider tires. Otherwise LE has all I need.
@phillipjames453
@phillipjames453 2 ай бұрын
I agree...Base model LE for me too!
@pontiacGXPfan
@pontiacGXPfan Ай бұрын
Especially when they just use that to distract you from all the other stuff the car doesn't have
@cottagegymfun
@cottagegymfun Ай бұрын
LE add Convenience package that includes power driver seat and keyless entry. Perfect
@MR3DDev
@MR3DDev 4 ай бұрын
No car is perfect the question is always “ can you happily live with the flaws?”
@seethingsclearlyawaken3424
@seethingsclearlyawaken3424 4 ай бұрын
The answer is NO. I don't pay for flaws.
@MR3DDev
@MR3DDev 4 ай бұрын
@@seethingsclearlyawaken3424 then you dont buy cars
@Repudiate
@Repudiate 4 ай бұрын
@@seethingsclearlyawaken3424 Every car has a flaw, like obviously so?
@seethingsclearlyawaken3424
@seethingsclearlyawaken3424 4 ай бұрын
Not with the forced $1300 cost of an extra optioned glass roof!
@MR3DDev
@MR3DDev 4 ай бұрын
@@seethingsclearlyawaken3424 I hate that.
@Marcus-id5ur
@Marcus-id5ur 4 ай бұрын
Had my LE for less than 2 weeks now. Only complaint is too much distracting tech. Miss my old radio with it's physical preset buttons.
@ryannguyen4813
@ryannguyen4813 4 ай бұрын
We're looking at this for my dad who is in the 70s. I am worried about the tech as he's a simple kind of guy. It's either this or a 15-17 Honda Accord EX. What do you think?
@Marcus-id5ur
@Marcus-id5ur 4 ай бұрын
@ryannguyen4813 most of the tech I just ignore. They made me download an app... which I never use. I have no idea which safety features are on. I only use android auto on longer rides. It's just the radio, but now that I have my favorites programmed, I can just scroll through them with the steering wheel button. I do forsee problems with people who are trying to use the tech and are distracted by their screens.
@RS-qz6by
@RS-qz6by 4 ай бұрын
You'll get used to the tech. Honestly the LE is less distracting as it shows way less information on the dash compared to the bigger dash
@f1david995
@f1david995 4 ай бұрын
Imagine what would this guy react to other cars covered with touch-tech screens
@yw4635
@yw4635 3 ай бұрын
​@@ryannguyen4813 maybe 15-18 ES?
@johanhermida6505
@johanhermida6505 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! Kirk for mentioning and pointing this out about the lack of energy flow monitor on all the Camrys trims on the multimedia screen. This vehicles are part of an beyond zero goal that Toyota has with all its new HEV's. For an icon on the Toyota line up, as the Camry is, they are missing an essential tool that basically tells the driver how your car is working and what is happening with the hybrid system and the power train. This is a tool for all drivers that helps them to be more efficient and conscious about fuel economy. This is clearly Toyota being negligent. Im an owner of a LE 2025 and it is missing this feature as well. I contacted Toyota and they give me a default customer service message that "your concern is being heard" which I dont think is true. So, thank you for bringing this up, and give us a voice to Toyota customers and Camry owners. even on the owners manual, page 114 this is a feature that is falsely advertised and it says that this is available on the multimedia screen but this is false. There are several reviewers that notice the lack of the energy flow monitor as well. This is clearly an error from Toyota and they are just disregarding the customer voices. All the other manufacturers of hybrids have functions that allow the driving to understand the how the power is being generated, even the corolla 2024 hybrid has it and the software looks exactly the same. Hopefully they pay attention to this matter. There is a reddit about it as well for Camry 2025 owners.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing! It really is such a strange omission here. Hope a software update will fix it. Enjoy your LE! That'd be my pick
@dsdddsd4543we
@dsdddsd4543we 4 ай бұрын
I have a recent ES350, and I'm impressed by this new Camry. With this new hybrid setup, It is difficult for EVs to compete. At 45-50MPG, you are talking about 580 miles + of range. You may have to fill up once or twice a month. Please compare each cabin's ride quality and quietness when you have a moment with an F Sport ES350.
@Skylancer727
@Skylancer727 4 ай бұрын
It's a different use case entirely. EVs really fit best with those who do a lot of city driving and especially sitting in traffic. EVs are also best when you don't have to travel far as charging at home means never stopping to go to a station again. These are areas where any conventional car takes way more wear than necessary and will not last as long. EVs just aren't affected by it the same way. If you need to go on road trips multiple times a year over 300 miles, you just shouldn't be considering an EV. But most people don't go on road trips like this and some people even take a plane if it comes to that. Not everyone needs the extreme range as most people rarely leave the 200 mile radius of where they live outside of for vacations. I know many people even call me crazy working 90 miles from home in the next state over. I think people really over estimate the range they need for their daily life. For some perspective, the distance I went for work training from here in Pennsylvania to Atlanta Georgia, a 13 hour drive, would still be possible with only two charges along the way (more like about 1 and 1/3). And I still needed a fueling myself with my car. Range in gas cars matters more because the more range the less you need to go to the gas station, but with EVs it's purely how for you can go at once.
@Negev-Israel
@Negev-Israel 2 ай бұрын
Exterior and powertrain: 😲😍🤯 Interior: 😡🤢 That pretty much sums it up
@yw4635
@yw4635 2 ай бұрын
EV is the best for short commuter family as the 2nd car in the family.
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 4 ай бұрын
I always forget about wireless charging, I just plug-in. It works better and doesn't heat up your phone as much.
@RS-qz6by
@RS-qz6by 4 ай бұрын
Perfect for the winter though!
@TruthvsLies5050
@TruthvsLies5050 4 ай бұрын
I never used my wireless charger, guess it would be good in case of emergency
@Skylancer727
@Skylancer727 4 ай бұрын
The main benefit of them is that they don't wear out the USB port on your phone. Otherwise if you use your phone for music plugging in your phone might even give you better audio instead of using bluetooth.
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 4 ай бұрын
@@Skylancer727 I have never broken a lightning port or USB port
@Skylancer727
@Skylancer727 4 ай бұрын
@kevinbarry71 I have, not on cellphones but I have broken a couple of fans I would wear as lanyards and gaming controllers. If you replace your phones often it's less likely to be an issue and it is less common with USB C. Still I have still broken or worn out USB C ports. And I did have to replace my father's iPhone for a shot lightning port. It is the next most common failure on the phone outside of broken screens.
@alanpastreck2303
@alanpastreck2303 4 ай бұрын
Makes me glad I found an XSE with just the pano roof and not the rest of the premium package, about $3k cheaper. Sounds like the driver assist systems and JBL in the premium package aren't really worth it.
@foxgood
@foxgood 4 ай бұрын
I don't know why car manufacturers are all emphasizing increasingly larger wheels, when it's less economical in terms of gas consumption and more energy-intensive for an electric car. If the Prius Prime had 17-inch wheels, instead of 21-inch wheels, it would have more electric range, at least 10 miles more minimum.
@chibbyylol
@chibbyylol 4 ай бұрын
There is probably a surprisingly large demographic that'll purchase vehicles based on if one has a bigger wheels than the other
@jonathanratliff4780
@jonathanratliff4780 4 ай бұрын
@@chibbyylol kids yes lol
@user-FTRU6GJ
@user-FTRU6GJ 4 ай бұрын
@@foxgood I think a better looking wheel is worth it over a 10 miles of range on a gas car. The cars now are slightly bigger so running 17 inch and even 18 inch on certain cars would look silly
@universalassociates6857
@universalassociates6857 4 ай бұрын
A coworker recently told me: “I’ve already stopped pontificating and ready to move on.” I don’t agree with him and I will keep pointing out stupid things at work. You keep going too!
@Marcus-id5ur
@Marcus-id5ur 4 ай бұрын
@foxgood yep, one of the main reasons I went with the LE, give me those 16" rims.
@andydufresne8034
@andydufresne8034 4 ай бұрын
Dear Toyota. Subscription stuff is tacky. It's offensive and leaves a bad taste. Why would you want to annoy your customers and sully your reputation like that? I look to you to be better than other companies who stoop to that level.
@ScottJoplin-r9b
@ScottJoplin-r9b 4 ай бұрын
I feel like subscriptions for car features are a deal killer
@bonecollector8086
@bonecollector8086 4 ай бұрын
I think we can all agree that we hate those fake engine noise.
@MrApplesaucestuff
@MrApplesaucestuff 4 ай бұрын
It’s not fake engine noise. Pay attention
@user-da3kjk2lk4lw
@user-da3kjk2lk4lw 4 ай бұрын
You are buying one of the most reliable hybrid cars from Toyota. If you want better engine with better sounding, go look for something else. Whining here won’t help.
@junito1008
@junito1008 4 ай бұрын
@@user-da3kjk2lk4lwThese ppl are something else !! 🤦🏻‍♂️😂 they’re paying around $33K for a excellent HYBRID car and they’re complaining about a fake sound (that it’s a government mandated).
@user-da3kjk2lk4lw
@user-da3kjk2lk4lw 4 ай бұрын
@@junito1008 let them pay maintenance and insurance later. i can guarantee you, Toyota's hybrid is 1000% more reliable than regular ICE engine + less maintenance cost.
@junito1008
@junito1008 4 ай бұрын
@@user-da3kjk2lk4lw Of course !! 😁 a reliable car with a 50mpg gas consumption and around 30-$40K…it’s a bargain hard to beat…period !!
@escheidl
@escheidl 4 ай бұрын
Much of this can be addressed by simply getting an LE model. As far as the "Alien sound," locate the speaker and fill it with spray foam, or wrap it with the best sound deadening material you can find. And my recommendation on subscriptions... Just say NO to subscriptions. My Camry wanted a subscription to continue using the remote start. So I bought an aftermarket plug and play remote start that works exactly like the factory unit. Ain't no way I'm paying for a subscription for something the car already does. Any feature that requires a subscription to keep working simply doesn't even exist on the car as far as I'm concerned. So when I'm weighing one car against another, if remote start requires a subscription,.. the car doesn't have remote start then. If the other car I'm considering has remote start that doesn't require a subscription,.. then THAT car has remote start, and so on. As I weigh out feature for feature, only the ones that don't require subscriptions actually exist. They can stuff their subscriptions up you know where. This subscription thing has got to stop. And we are the only ones that can stop it by not subscribing to it.
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 4 ай бұрын
More like we boycott subscriptions by not buying their cars.
@kellyaustin7487
@kellyaustin7487 4 ай бұрын
​@@faheemabbas3965Imagine buying a brand new car and then having to spray some sound dampening foam because the brand new speakers are rattling 😒
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 3 ай бұрын
@@faheemabbas3965all companies are starting this - same as smart phones
@escheidl
@escheidl 3 ай бұрын
@@kellyaustin7487 I wasn't talking about the speakers in the car rattling. You're right, that would stink. I was referring to the speaker in the grill that makes the "alien sound" in the new hybrids when going slow or backing up so the car can be heard when the engine's off. The government has made that thing so ridiculously loud that it's obnoxious. That's what needs to be spray foamed and wrapped to quiet it down. I'm not saying eliminate it, just make it more appropriate for it's purpose.
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl 4 ай бұрын
Q2 mid size truck sales figures 2024.1.Tacoma 47.912/2nd Colorado 26.901/3rd frontier 20.219/4th canyon 11.351/5th gladiator 10.489/6TH RANGER 9.030/7th Ridgeline 8.626. new Tacoma continue to remain as the number one selling mid size truck in it's segment while having to face serious competition yet some haters like @riseabove3083 and others still keep talking bs. Let the haters go to hell and only opinion that does matter is sales figures
@extremepcs2807
@extremepcs2807 4 ай бұрын
I have a 25 XSE. My biggest complaint is the paint. Mine is black and if I look at it wrong, it scratches. 1800 miles and I already have stone chips on the hood and a scratch on the door where I washed off bird poo. My fault for not getting paint protection film, but the paint seems really soft/thin. Only other thing is the center console lid. The padding is super thin and uncomfortable to rest my elbow on.
@E_Rice
@E_Rice 4 ай бұрын
What else annoys you about it?
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 3 ай бұрын
So Mazda paint is thin also. Auto makers had to remove lead from paint because of Obama. I have a new Camry too and the reservoir blue paint also scratches super easily. I have been really disappointed: paint has to be touched carefully when it is clean and not dusty at all: the clear coat scratches when you touch it. And the center armrest, well I ordered a padded accessory armrest that works great for $21 on Amazon for a Camry specifically.
@merdith6
@merdith6 3 ай бұрын
So true. I have a 2019. Super thin paint and armrest is too high
@alanclarkeau
@alanclarkeau 4 ай бұрын
Subscription services - making me think maybe not a TOYOTA this time. Toyota has a reputation for long life. I wonder how an old 2025 Toyota will be? "Oh, it used to have Subscription Services, but TOYOTA decided that it's too old for them to bother." Could wreck the reputation for great resale value.
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 4 ай бұрын
It will apply to every car brand soon if enough people don’t boycott subscriptions.
@chibbyylol
@chibbyylol 4 ай бұрын
well it's not a subscription service to start the car (yet), you just won't get remote start or whatever else
@Oregoncoast30
@Oregoncoast30 4 ай бұрын
Kirk, thank you for giving this 1 week driving experience. Its good to hear your thoughts on the car.
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 3 ай бұрын
I just bought the 2025 Camry Hybread and it’s great. I’ve hit 44 mpgs and the speaker rattle was corrected by a slight reduction of the base. And as far as the screen, I use Apple CarPlay and there are arrows in the top left corner to touch and it takes you right to the Toyota screen.
@Jalapenoskyraisin
@Jalapenoskyraisin Ай бұрын
The door rattle drives me nuts. I will take it back to Toyota at 1000 miles to fix it
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus Ай бұрын
@@Jalapenoskyraisin turn the bass down on the audio settings. Everyone has the same complaint. I bought one and turned it down within hours to eliminate rattles and it worked.
@Jalapenoskyraisin
@Jalapenoskyraisin Ай бұрын
@@2004cyrus I tried and no luck. It’s the drivers side door and it’s driving me 🥜. Either Toyota can fix it or I will take it to get sound deadening installed. I want to upgrade the basic speakers anyway
@jerryharrison4101
@jerryharrison4101 4 ай бұрын
I am so glad that you are really giving the viewer a honest description of the things that SUCK in what Toyota is doing and not just the good that should be in these expensive vehicles
@bosconti1979
@bosconti1979 3 ай бұрын
I own a 2025 XLE, I agree with your concerns and I also agree with you as to the pleasure of the car. Got almost 1700 miles on the car and so far so good!!
@iratashman7202
@iratashman7202 3 ай бұрын
How do you like the driver seat comfort?
@zkiller195
@zkiller195 4 ай бұрын
I wish the packages were grouped differently (or available a la carte). Personally, I don't want leather or leatherette seats unless they're ventelated. But I also absolutely don't want a sunroof. JBL audio would be nice too, but again I'm 100% opposed to sunroofs and don't want a lot of the other garbage that comes on the premium plus package. As is, my best match would probably be a base Camry and just upgrade the sound system aftermarket. But I'd like the option to get an XSE and just check the boxes I want for options.
@daytonarama
@daytonarama 4 ай бұрын
The XLE with premium plus has venrtalated seats, which work well.
@zkiller195
@zkiller195 4 ай бұрын
@@daytonarama ...that comes with a sunroof. Which I will not have. It also has several other things that I don't really want, but a sunroof is a hard pass for me, as is the driver monitor alert (every review I've seen has said the system is overly intrusive and annoying).
@roylappin4491
@roylappin4491 4 ай бұрын
How about some decent wheels that are NOT low profile, Indiana has more potholes than road.
@charlesjackson1700
@charlesjackson1700 4 ай бұрын
"Only low profile tires" on the XSE ..19"
@roylappin4491
@roylappin4491 4 ай бұрын
@@charlesjackson1700 the only one that doesn’t have low profile tire is the LE! Anyone know about spare tires?
@mrgurulittle7000
@mrgurulittle7000 4 ай бұрын
You guys even have roads? I thought Indiana only had potholes.😂😂
@roylappin4491
@roylappin4491 4 ай бұрын
@@mrgurulittle7000 very true! More potholes than road.
@NomenClature-o8s
@NomenClature-o8s 4 ай бұрын
@@mrgurulittle7000Just came from Indiana. Holy crap.
@richscott2483
@richscott2483 4 ай бұрын
Yes! The Remote Connect feature of my 2023 Camry XSE V6 had to pay $80 yr. plus tax. after the 1 yr. trial as it is the only real Subscription you need since the others have little value. The Eye monitor recognition scanner would drive everyone up the wall plus goofy placement and design. The Infotainment screen is larger and upgraded but it is not always better. I like the idea of having a Fully Digital Instrument Cluster, however, it appears to have its setbacks just like the infotainment system. No improvement in the JBL "not premium" Sound system. The cheap plastic interior is for the birds still and the seat belt buckle banging against the panel just get a padded seat belt cover for the strap. No improvement to the Heads Up Display for Brightness, Colors, Positioning, and Resolution. Weak resolution for Backup Camera. Sorry, not the first time having to comment in one of Kirk's reviews, but I hate all Hybrids and EVs. I have a fully loaded Camry XSE 3.5L V6. I feel Toyota failed severely with its 9th Generation Camry since my perception is Toyota's new 2025 design is ugly inside and out. The 2 Positives are the fully digital instrument cluster display and Toyota Safety Sense 3.0. I would take the Lexus ES-350 (V6) or 350 F-Sport (V6) over any Camry Hybrid model. If I had to buy a new 2025 Camry, definitely would not be the lowest Trim LE which is 100 percent garbage but the SE and XSE. The LE and XLE pretty much provide nothing so why get them. My 2023 Camry XSE V6 fully loaded MSRP $41,305. A 2025 Camry XSE Hybrid fully loaded MSRP is nearly $42,000 costing more than my wonderful V6. Toyota is just ripping everyone off these days. Believe the Mazda CX-5 and CX-50 are a better buy than any vehicle Toyota is placing on the market for 2025. Likely have to move up to the Lexus brand for a decent vehicle. Honda is doing rather bad, the 11th Gen. Civic is not doing so well in its reliability as expected and the Honda Accord might not see another year of production. In my 2023, got the Ottocast Picasou 2 Pro for wireless Apple Car Play and Android Auto, add an Amazon Fire TV Stick 4K Max inserted in the Picasou 2 Pro HDMI input and be amazed how your Infotainment Screen been Transformed to watch videos and no longer have limited Apps but Unlimited Apps. Also Picasou 2 Pro has an HDMI Output to connect external monitors, notebook, tablet, and for kids to watch stuff in the back seat. Get the Deja Vue Plus App ($30 mo.) watch Live TV, Live Sports any sport just name it does not matter where broadcast or blackout, Movies, TV shows complete seasons and episodes. Use your Smartphone for a Wi-Fi Hotspot then you don't need a SIM card.
@alvinsimba734
@alvinsimba734 3 ай бұрын
Too many features means more problems down the road and it’s cheaper to get aftermarket remote start and all set
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 3 ай бұрын
You sound really angry and negative. And there are adjustments to the heads up display positioning and so on.
@muffdiver4973
@muffdiver4973 4 ай бұрын
1:05 Totally agree with you about the seatbelt thing. I own the 2023 Prius and it has the same problem.
@PFinkoloTL87
@PFinkoloTL87 Ай бұрын
I have the 2022 Camry and same problem.
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl
@Mylifeislegendary982vd3-vl 4 ай бұрын
New Camry is a excellent class leading mid size sedan like always and killing its competition like a perfectly tuned assassin.👑👑.
@Dongzzzzzz
@Dongzzzzzz 4 ай бұрын
I just checked the chinese version of the camry, interior wise and even the infotainment it's better. Never knew it existed but i guess sedans are still alive in china and with the local competition there the camry is marketed as some executive sedan while in the US it's an uber vehicle or something especially with the base model.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 4 ай бұрын
The headlights on the Chinese Camry are beautiful
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 4 ай бұрын
Except the touch capacitive buttons. We’re lucky we didn’t get those. Otherwise better than the US Camry imo.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss Ай бұрын
Chinese cars are junk dude. If youre dumb enough to buy one you need to be taxed at 100%
@kodiakkid1088
@kodiakkid1088 4 ай бұрын
I have a 2025 XLE. And a pixel phone. No charging issues at all. The speaker rattling I would bring back, my car is quiet. And I think the shiney black on the passenger vents is nice :-)
@yobabybubba
@yobabybubba 3 ай бұрын
Your comment made me happy. I ordered a 25 XLE. And after watching this video, i'm quite concerned. I'm getting the white front wheel drive with the light tan interior with the premium package And some other extras.
@monkeymenso
@monkeymenso 4 ай бұрын
I am planning to buy a camry, but I think I am buying the 2024. I like the style more than the new one, and I don't care about paying more for gas.
@OhanaInPortland
@OhanaInPortland 4 ай бұрын
I have a hard time getting my seat belt as well. It's hard to grab the buckle because it's so close to the seat.
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 3 ай бұрын
I have the issue as well. I have to try to grab it from a lower position.
@E_Rice
@E_Rice 4 ай бұрын
Kirk, please do a “nitpick” video when you get a Crown Signia Limited for review. We really need these types of videos bc no regular test drive can convey these things. I wanted the front cameras and parking assist but I hadn’t realized the accompanying front cross traffic alerts were so annoying. This is a honestly a great video.
@PKwong-xq9ze
@PKwong-xq9ze 4 ай бұрын
I don’t see why the American version Camry can not be designed just as good as the Chinese-market version Camrys. 😮
@FlexRod
@FlexRod 4 ай бұрын
I have an 8th Gen Se trim, and I can confirm Kirk that all Camry owners have that same seatbelt problem 😮‍💨 This car is a great improvement overall, a few kinks yes but nothing major. Really keeping my fingers crossed for a hopeful announcement of the Crown Sport for North America, however I think they are concerned for the sales of Lexus NX and thus might never happen 😔
@jeremyg2245
@jeremyg2245 4 ай бұрын
Interested to see you to nitpick the 2025 Civic soon!
@phillipjames453
@phillipjames453 2 ай бұрын
I would disable all annoying features and concentrate on safe driving. No subscriptions for me. Buying a car is a one time purchase. Great video!
@russbilderback
@russbilderback 2 ай бұрын
My biggest nitpick is that they don't offer a more powerful option after killing the V6. A 300-350hp Option would be nice.
@davidwalia3451
@davidwalia3451 2 ай бұрын
Koenigsegg
@BaldyRocks138
@BaldyRocks138 3 ай бұрын
I have a 2025 SE. Try lifting the driver side wiper to clean your windshield. Not possible, it hits the hood. Look at the sun visor hinges. Exposed screw heads in a car that costs this much?
@jeffreydyja87
@jeffreydyja87 2 ай бұрын
Need to click them up. Done for aerodynamics
@JackReichardt
@JackReichardt 4 ай бұрын
When turning DMC off, will it stay off permanently? Or does it default to "on" at each car start and must you turn it off each time?
@user117831
@user117831 4 ай бұрын
I have the same car. When I'm on the interstate, where the road is paved with parallel grooves in the concrete to improve traction, The "Lane Keep Assist" will seem to fight with the steering like it doesn't know how to handle the road. The system will keep you in the lane, but the wheel wants to turn in a slight left-to-right fashion repeatedly.
@FordEnthusiast413
@FordEnthusiast413 4 ай бұрын
This is another reason that I can add to my list of reasons why I turn all of the driver assist things off.
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 4 ай бұрын
just one button on the wheel to turn it off. simple.
@user117831
@user117831 4 ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels Oh yeah I got it turned off.
@abirivpr
@abirivpr 2 ай бұрын
Have an LE and and I am at 1900 miles. I will only concur with only one thing you talked about: the engine noise. The engine noise I have issues with is when I am stuck in traffic, for about 5 to 7 min, when i actually drive off my car makes this loud overreving noise on the motor until it reaches 30 mph. Besides that I have no complaints. Prior to this I had a 2022 Corolla SE which was awesome.
@jonathanratliff4780
@jonathanratliff4780 4 ай бұрын
Does it have the build quality of the ES though Kirk? I know it has less than half the body laser weld points for rigidity so I don’t see how the build quality could be as good. I doubt there’s much ever speaker rattles in ES with Mark Levinson.
@mg43472
@mg43472 3 ай бұрын
I have a few too.. and I just bought one.. 2025 XLE Its hard to grab the seat belt since it hugs the side so tight.. I dont like the glossy black either.. The screen is so unintuitive - I cant find the Android Auto screen.. The Seat retracts backwards every time its switched to off.. and goes forward when started. I heard there was a way to disable it but I havent found it .. The Head up display is annoying.. The dealer showed me how to dim it but it seems to only have 2 settings.. and if I want to switch during the day Id have to hunt thru the menus.. The Owners manuals are like 4 inches thick.. The glove box is tiny and hard to reach.. The warning beeps are annoying The Lane assist meanders til the edge of the road and then seems to over correct.. I had a Honda Civic Touring and it was a classy intuitive interior and controls. The Lane assist was spot on and secure feeling.. The Eyeball monitor keeps telling me to sit up - even when I havent moved. The Key Fob doesnt have much range. - I was told the remote start was 3 years but dealer guy told me it keeps working beyond 5 years. The App on the Phone dies in a year and requires 8 dollar a month.. F that.. The seat has a fan in it.. and the fan blade rubs on something in there.. esp if you push back into the seat.. The stereo is eh even with the 9 speaker JBLs.. but I have totally tweaked it but I have a feeling it aint that great even at its best. The Hybrid part is new to me so its kinda weird how it keeps switching between engine and Electric motor. Thats all for now.. lol..
@KevPez-IS
@KevPez-IS 2 ай бұрын
I was blown away by the amount of accessories for the Ford Maverick. Im hoping we see the same thing for the Camry. Decals to cover the piano black for example
@RetroClinic
@RetroClinic 4 ай бұрын
Thanks goodness I got my NX before they started fitting that eye monitor nanny nonsense to everything. I had a UX300h as a courtesy car a few weeks ago, and it drove me nuts 😂 Yes you can turn those features off, but a lot of them come back on next time you start the car, at least with my NX once I turn them off, they stay off. I just hope they don’t do an over-the-air downdate and mess that up at some point.
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 3 ай бұрын
My new Camry Hibread doesn’t have that silly option
@hdwrenching882
@hdwrenching882 4 ай бұрын
Whole Foods is Kirk's top shortcut on Google Maps. Its getting real in the Whole Foods parking lot.........
@davidcoleman6995
@davidcoleman6995 4 ай бұрын
agreed on the wireless charger. I have an iPhone and it constantly connects and disconnects. Wish I could just turn it off.
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 3 ай бұрын
Mine is flawless so far
@cpdennis11
@cpdennis11 2 ай бұрын
Most base models will be cost down exercises. They make good rental, government agency and second car fleet vehicles. Safe, economical, value for money, good resale value.
@kenthompson9711
@kenthompson9711 4 ай бұрын
The rear sub also rattles the shelf its mounted in. Same problem they have known about since the 2018 model.
@borowland5744
@borowland5744 3 ай бұрын
Just bought the XSE and man it's nice.
@foxgood
@foxgood 4 ай бұрын
And BMW is considering charging you the monthly rental for the heated steering wheel and heated seats. It's going bad
@PFinkoloTL87
@PFinkoloTL87 Ай бұрын
The seatbelt buckle has too little space in my 2022 Camry also. ➡Scratches. Still love it.
@evangelistaalbertomercedes7905
@evangelistaalbertomercedes7905 4 ай бұрын
Would take the 2025 Camry Hybrid over the 2025 Honda Civic Hybrid?. I’m still undecided over which one to get out of the two.
@yobabybubba
@yobabybubba 3 ай бұрын
I have been a honda man for many years, but this new Generation, and the last one, you feel trapped. The doors and the dash come up too high before the windows start . I love my 14 accord.
@210brownie
@210brownie 2 ай бұрын
@@yobabybubba So true. Why do so many vehicles have this? It is so annoying that one really doesn't want a new vehicle.
@yobabybubba
@yobabybubba 2 ай бұрын
@@evangelistaalbertomercedes7905 The correct terminology is the visibility. Hondas have poor visibility. The new Camry's do not have that. They have great visibility.
@cdesalme
@cdesalme Ай бұрын
Excellent review ! I was thinking of trading in my 2023 Camry SE ( non hybrid) because the seats are not comfortable at all. So with everything that you mentioned plus I don’t think I’m able to put my sound system in this car , I will just keep mine and change the seats to the LE cloth seats. 👍
@StandngOnBusiness
@StandngOnBusiness 3 ай бұрын
I hate that ufo sound I had a 24 crv and if you put it on reverse while the engine off everybody looking trying to see what that noise is!
@RS-qz6by
@RS-qz6by 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the Camry videos!! Really helpful for me as I'm waiting for my delivery and wondering about a lot of this stuff
@markp.7165
@markp.7165 2 ай бұрын
My wife's CRV Hybrid has that spaceship noise and I can hear her coming form a block away once she turns on to our street. I considered disconnecting the speaker but decided if we hit someone we would end up broke from the lawsuit.
@peterschleh9382
@peterschleh9382 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the terriffic detailed review oh well seeing this now after purchasing 2 days ago. good to hear your nitpicks, helps me out as well.
@Skylancer727
@Skylancer727 4 ай бұрын
Subscriptions are really killing cars to me. Cars are seen as one of the most expensive things a person owns, and now you don't own it entirely. Like seriously, how could you possibly justify subscriptions on something so expensive that most people make less money in a year than it?
@alvinsimba734
@alvinsimba734 3 ай бұрын
That’s why I buy a trim above the base and then add an aftermarket remote starter on it and it’s job done. I did that to my current vehicle 4 years ago
@phalisatumblin1249
@phalisatumblin1249 3 ай бұрын
I have the 2025 Camry SE and I totally agree the seats are very very uncomfortable..and I share some of the same issues you have... I don't like .the speakers they sound really bad in my car too, the rattle on the right side of my door drives me crazy. I took out a lot of the base but I can still here the rattle...if I have passengers in the backseat they can barely hear any sound coming from the speaker's in the back
@DCM-o4r
@DCM-o4r 3 ай бұрын
I had a different experience. I first test drove the Camry XLE and I thought the seats were not that comfortable. I then test drove the SE and noticed the seats were very comfortable.
@phalisatumblin1249
@phalisatumblin1249 2 ай бұрын
@@DCM-o4r Wow!...I traded my Camry in for the Lexus ES and I'm happy 🙂..I hope you enjoy the SE Camry if you choose to buy it. I'm not young anymore, in my opinion the new Camry fits better with younger people
@mattp2035
@mattp2035 Күн бұрын
Thanks. You saved me a lot of money!
@islanddon865
@islanddon865 4 ай бұрын
I prefer models with fewer "e-Toys" that distract, annoy and cost you plenty at purchase. I would despise that giant screen. Yeah, l'm sounding like my dad when he first saw cruise control!😂
@jayyqnilla
@jayyqnilla 4 ай бұрын
I bought a Lexus ES 300h back in December. Thinking on trading it in and go for a 2025 camry. What are your thoughts? Should I take the negative equity loss for a lower payment?
@jayyqnilla
@jayyqnilla 4 ай бұрын
@@jp23baz33 thanks for your share. I just figured I’d take the cheaper payment and the Camry seems better equipped than the Lexus now. That panoramic sun roof is cool too
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 4 ай бұрын
Test out the Camry! The biggest difference for me is interior materials and seat comfort. The 5th gen hybrid in Camry is a peach compared to the es300h. More juice, quieter, and more efficient...and smoother
@jayyqnilla
@jayyqnilla 4 ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels so the Camry is more efficient than the ES300h hybrid? I know the Camry has more HP than the Lexus. You think it would be worth taking a hit on the negative equity of if I was to trade in my Lexus for a Camry? Mainly for the lower payments?
@eleanormassaro5195
@eleanormassaro5195 4 ай бұрын
@@jayyqnilla the negative equity could affect your monthly payment
@escheidl
@escheidl 4 ай бұрын
@@jp23baz33 Yes! I hear they give you cookies and coffee when you get your oil changed! 😊👍
@alfymo
@alfymo 2 ай бұрын
Was this thing over 41k out the door? Thats a bit nuts to me.
@sh-zm7xl
@sh-zm7xl 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your honesty!
@oreotcat
@oreotcat 15 күн бұрын
I rented one of these this week for work training. 200 miles roundtrip every day and I have to say the seats are incredibly uncomfortable. I've driven that much in my Volvo with no issues. This a nice car but I don't think I'd buy one.
@joebruhin2098
@joebruhin2098 3 ай бұрын
I'lll keep my Mazda and eat the gas milage, thanks Kirk, I actually was thinking about taking it. Are all trims have a cheap interior?
@phalisatumblin1249
@phalisatumblin1249 3 ай бұрын
Whish I would've kept my Mazda 6 ..at least the seats are more comfortable and more leg room too
@joebruhin2098
@joebruhin2098 3 ай бұрын
@@phalisatumblin1249 Mazda 6 is a great car and I hope they get it together and bring out another. I gave up on waiting for one so bought a cx5.
@dforrest4503
@dforrest4503 3 ай бұрын
You’d glue on felt to avoid scratches? That makes no sense.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 4 ай бұрын
Kirk, Save the money and get the LE. 😁
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 4 ай бұрын
LE is so good!
@igorn7648
@igorn7648 2 ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels why do you recommend the le the most?
@kevinbonquyquy1047
@kevinbonquyquy1047 4 ай бұрын
For an all hybrid lineup, idk how Toyota completely skipped over have some kind of energy, hybrid battery monitor in the software. 😂
@steak5599
@steak5599 4 ай бұрын
Since it isn't a Plug In Hybrid, I think the Energy Screen is pretty irrelevant at this point. It is really just some Animations that don't really tell you anything.
@tylersrubar6451
@tylersrubar6451 4 ай бұрын
These days luxury means a bunch of fancy features vs before it meant build quality, no rattles, good materials. Many things are built cheaper and covered up by flashy high tech features.
@ninjamoto21
@ninjamoto21 4 ай бұрын
One complaint I got is they got rid of the lockable glovebox which was available on every Camry but other than that it’s a excellent car for commuting
@Markus-dx9oy
@Markus-dx9oy 4 ай бұрын
Ein Toyota Camry wird nie besser als ein Lexus ES sein,aber es ist ein super Auto das mehr bietet als erwartet.Für Familien ist er der bessere Kompromiss Der Lexus ist ein feiner Flanieren für Menschen die perfektion und Luxus lieben.
@treytilley333
@treytilley333 3 ай бұрын
Definitely not sold on the Camry. The k5 looks better and better even though it has less MPG.
@BillLaBrie
@BillLaBrie 3 ай бұрын
How about they make all the tech shit a subscription and charge $19,999 for the car? I’d go for that.
@prabhakarkotipalli-qe8ep
@prabhakarkotipalli-qe8ep 3 ай бұрын
I have a crown xle 2024. Should I trade in for a camry xse 2025?
@philg3759
@philg3759 4 ай бұрын
I bet the ES doesn’t have that speaker rattle.
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 3 ай бұрын
The speaker rattle is easily fixable by adjusting base down a hair
@NahBra_EUC
@NahBra_EUC 24 күн бұрын
I would find the synthetic sound speaker and cover it with tape to reduce the decibels.
@coniccinoc
@coniccinoc 3 ай бұрын
Just bought an LE and have one for you: Driving, listening to the radio (youtube thru apple car play) and I get a text message. The radio continues to play as it reads the text message, which I can barely hear, and then asks me if I want to reply.
@DCM-o4r
@DCM-o4r 3 ай бұрын
I had the same issue but when as it reads the memo, just turn up the volume knob on the radio and just the memo voice volume increases, not what’s playing on the radio.
@coniccinoc
@coniccinoc 3 ай бұрын
@@DCM-o4r I had the radio loud at the time. The message shouldn't have to compete with the radio but this may be more on Applecarplay than Toyota. Thanks for the response.
@I_am_Brent
@I_am_Brent 4 ай бұрын
Carplay has an icon in the top left corner that allows you to see the row of Toyota options to the left of the Carplay section of the screen. Wireless charging also reportedly works better with iPhones than others.
@jonathanratliff4780
@jonathanratliff4780 4 ай бұрын
@@I_am_Brent he refuses to upgrade to an iPhone lol
@WaddleMan91
@WaddleMan91 4 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s weird because on my Camry with CarPlay it has that row of Toyota options…i guess its just an Android Auto thing
@PRANAVASAICHUKKAPALLY
@PRANAVASAICHUKKAPALLY 3 ай бұрын
Hi, I like your videos, the way you explain is so good...I have a question: did toyota recall the 2025 camry and other vehicles? Today I have seen a article on Google that states toyota has issued a recall. Could you please confirm if it's true or not as I have booked a 2025 camry xse...thanks a lot in advance ❤
@2004cyrus
@2004cyrus 3 ай бұрын
No recalls on ththe 25. I have one.
@donaldjones2106
@donaldjones2106 3 ай бұрын
Sorry it bothers you. I have a 2017 Camry. Love it.
@sylvainlaurin1012
@sylvainlaurin1012 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for all the info on the new Camry. Very usefull to know !!!
@mkdau01
@mkdau01 2 ай бұрын
I’m so happy I got a rav4 hybrid after I saw a Camry inside (I was like no, man, this doesn’t feel like “it”…) 😂
@jackdaniels2905
@jackdaniels2905 4 ай бұрын
I'm considering this or the new civic Hybrid.
@Sleepyboiwonder
@Sleepyboiwonder 4 ай бұрын
Could all this be remediated with over the air updates?
@singular9
@singular9 4 ай бұрын
never had a good wireless charger in any of my cars and I've had a couple. I think they are all just bad.
@johnperry7534
@johnperry7534 2 ай бұрын
That Toyota will be going strong long after I’m dead , I really like that bit.
@yoli159
@yoli159 4 ай бұрын
The only reason I won't be getting this car is for the subscriptions
@x_zixc
@x_zixc 4 ай бұрын
its probably reason why you dont get the energy monitor bc its a manufacturer car
@lauraprell18
@lauraprell18 3 ай бұрын
I have the 23 Prius and the energy monitor is under the car icon like he said it should be... weird. Other than that it is the exact same 12.3 in head unit.
@danieljohnson4418
@danieljohnson4418 3 ай бұрын
Recently purchased a 2025 Camry SE for my wife. Great vehicle, but the infotainment system is merely average. I'm also a GM guy. GM's infotainment systems are far more user-friendly, IMO. I also wish the upper sections of the rear door panels were rendered in soft-touch plastic.
@sherrikwhiteside6107
@sherrikwhiteside6107 3 ай бұрын
Being a GM guy, would you consider the Malibu? I test drove one, and was pleasantly surprised by it.
@danieljohnson4418
@danieljohnson4418 3 ай бұрын
@@sherrikwhiteside6107: No, I did not consider the Malibu. I find it to be a decent but underwhelming sedan with poor resale value and questionable long-term reliability.
@pb25193
@pb25193 2 ай бұрын
I had to put down a deposit (refundable) without test driving. I want to know if thw wireless charging is stable? Looks like the phone will just slide off from the charger all the time? Is this true?
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 2 ай бұрын
Phone doesn't move iirc. Maybe if you're slamming on the gas and brakes.
@pb25193
@pb25193 2 ай бұрын
@@KirkKreifels cool man thanks for the info
@boedilllard5952
@boedilllard5952 3 ай бұрын
My biggest issue is the "packages" OK you want better speakers - well we have some mediocre ones but you have to get a bunch of other stuff just to get that. I prefer a standup phone holder. center storage needs a light, trunk needs about 3 more lights that are BRIGHTER. Energy monitor strange. Shouldn't have to buy a bi direction scanner to fix the functions missing on the key fob. Ventilated seats should be standard. No ANC?
@raufnugmanov1765
@raufnugmanov1765 4 ай бұрын
Interesting how this "distracted driver" system deals with sunglasses, photochromic/regular lenses? It's sad that you have to pay for all these systems that eventually you turn off. For me it's also disappointing why Toyota only offers a big expensive package rather than more granuly combined features.
@chrisr6401
@chrisr6401 4 ай бұрын
Speaker might be loose due to it being a Press Car...great takes though ....great reviews
@KirkKreifels
@KirkKreifels 4 ай бұрын
It's early production so maybe ..
@antomano5623
@antomano5623 Ай бұрын
I already have regrets buying my '25 xse ppp. The trunk has to be shut hard for it to close, no 2 seating memory position buttons, hard to use the 12.3" screen, no built-in sunshades, cannot lock the glove box, no remote start, no cd player, and a few other things lacking.
@LSDOGWALKER
@LSDOGWALKER 4 ай бұрын
Toyota has THE stupidest remote start function. Not only will I not pay a subscription, but when you remote start the vehicle, it shuts off as soon as you open the door. I get why they did it (because a lawyer was involved no doubt), but I've never seen a remote start SHUT OFF when you open the door. It defeats the whole purpose of remote starting if you have to re start it again once you're in, especially if it's -25 outside!
@webcomment8895
@webcomment8895 4 ай бұрын
I thought Toyota fixed that on new models. Honda fixed that several years ago. The engine stays on when open the door. You still can’t drive away after remote starting unless you have the key fob with you and tap the start button.
@LSDOGWALKER
@LSDOGWALKER 4 ай бұрын
@@webcomment8895 well, I have a 2022 Venza Limited and it still shuts off. Maybe they've fixed it since then?
@webcomment8895
@webcomment8895 4 ай бұрын
@@LSDOGWALKER It depends on the specific model. I think it requires TSS 3.0. Many new Toyotas still have TSS 2.5.
@mjmagic12
@mjmagic12 4 ай бұрын
Do you need the eye tracking on to use traffic jam assist?
@E_Rice
@E_Rice 4 ай бұрын
Yes. Kirk showed it in his Lexus demonstration so I assume it’s the same in a Toyota vehicle.
@GDMan-fb1jx
@GDMan-fb1jx 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the heads up 👍
@phugemawl
@phugemawl 2 ай бұрын
AND there's still an IPad stuck on the dash and the open hood is still supported by a stick !
@martinvargas1346
@martinvargas1346 Ай бұрын
I feel the random chime thing. I swear it will randomly chime at me and by the time I look down to see what it is it’s gone. The one thing I hate about the Camry rn is the fact that my phone constantly needs to reconnect everytime I come back. That and the doors unlocking. I unlock my car and only the driver side unlocks and I went in setting to unlock passenger but half the time I’m stuck trying to unlock from inside. Another thing I hate is every now and then I’ll turn off my car to leave and then it’s beeping at me like if I still left the car on and won’t want to lock. I have to climb back in turn back on and off again I don’t get it and it makes me mad
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