The 3090 Ti Heat Problem: Supersized Cooler Tear-Down of EVGA FTW3

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Dealing with a 500+W heat load isn't trivial, and EVGA's FTW3 is tasked with doing as much for the NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti GPU. In this one, we tear-down the cooling solution that handled it.
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The EVGA RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 is massive, but it is built very well. The cooling solution is able to handle the immense amount of heat that NVIDIA is generating with its GPU, and although we still think you should buy something else (simply because of the price vs. the performance gain over, say, anything else -- even an 'old' 3090), we think it's worth looking at how well this one is built.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Gargantuan Cooler
01:20 - The EVGA eLeash - Yes, Really
04:14 - Examining the Exterior
06:50 - Beginning Disassembly
11:55 - Removing the Cooler
13:50 - Design Overview
15:54 - Investigating EVGA Scribbling
18:16 - Thermal Paste & GPU Die
22:23 - Heatpipes & Cooler Design
23:38 - ICX Coolers & NTC Thermistors
25:04 - Final Thoughts on the Cooler & Fans
26:56 - Conclusion
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@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 2 жыл бұрын
Grab a GN toolkit (in stock & shipping now) or Modmat here! store.gamersnexus.net/ Our full review of the EVGA RTX 3090 Ti FTW3 is available here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/foi2anpojLlnaLM
@Big_Yin
@Big_Yin 2 жыл бұрын
RTX 3090 THAI
@theauthenticsteve
@theauthenticsteve 2 жыл бұрын
Disappointing how condescending you are to the niche group of gamers who actually need GPU's like this and no most of us Pimax VR sim racers are not yacht owners probably because we have an expensive hobby. But that's the thing you're making fun of people because of their hobby, do you do that to bike riders? Plenty of MTB's cost more, like the new price of my carbon frame MTB that I bought for $600 second hand but cost more than that GPU new, do you think that original owner was a Yacht owner? Maybe he was an idiot to spend so much on a bike considering there are much better value options available. Yeah sure my VR sim Racing hobby is expensive and I hate the price of the GPU's I need but it is still less money than I spend on my son to go entry level real life kart racing.
@jouniosmala9921
@jouniosmala9921 2 жыл бұрын
They are going to need those coolers later this year when the 40 series launches. So this is a board partner practice run for the 40 series.
@Big_Yin
@Big_Yin 2 жыл бұрын
@@theauthenticsteve yeah but second hand carbon MTB's hold their value even after a few years, price to performance these GPU's are pointless to gamers and hold no reasonable value in future generations.
@matthewcherrington2634
@matthewcherrington2634 2 жыл бұрын
Liquid nitrogen it please
@anthonyc417
@anthonyc417 2 жыл бұрын
I love the very human aspect of the frequency and batch # hand written on the substraight.
@volkswagenginetta
@volkswagenginetta 2 жыл бұрын
i actually would have more confidence in a card like that because it had manual review of it. (obviously the ones without writing were too) but i like the evidence of it
@Lisa_Minci96
@Lisa_Minci96 2 жыл бұрын
*substrate
@GalileoAV
@GalileoAV 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, reminds me of really old maker's marks you'll see on the inside of watches and stuff.
@anthonyc417
@anthonyc417 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lisa_Minci96 yeah that
@sammer28
@sammer28 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lisa_Minci96 don't kink shame
@LordWaterBottle
@LordWaterBottle 2 жыл бұрын
I wish these massive cards would start being honest and actually fully bracket for each pcie slot they prevent you from using. I'd bet that would go a long way in preventing gpu sag.
@degeneratepervert6255
@degeneratepervert6255 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely, well said
@Pyroteq
@Pyroteq 2 жыл бұрын
Forget GPU sag, it's getting to the point where you're gonna have to worry about case sag. There's not a whole lot of metal around the PCI brackets...
@Nareimooncatt
@Nareimooncatt 2 жыл бұрын
Jay mounted this in his review video and it was surprisingly nearly rock solid without the leash.
@PrimalRampageGaming
@PrimalRampageGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I recommend the Lian Li gpu bracket, I'm using one for my 3090. Does a good job. The leash is a okay concept but ugly.
@werewolfmoney6602
@werewolfmoney6602 2 жыл бұрын
Why would they do that when they can just charge you more money for a fucking string
@Bryce10011
@Bryce10011 2 жыл бұрын
Would you rather them have called it a G-String?
@mrsinister279
@mrsinister279 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there 🤣
@kainey
@kainey 2 жыл бұрын
evGa-string
@slendydie1267
@slendydie1267 2 жыл бұрын
the Graphical Processing Unit String or for short G-String
@Bryce10011
@Bryce10011 2 жыл бұрын
@@slendydie1267 Yes well done. You dissected the joke. Congratulations.
@dare2liv_nlove
@dare2liv_nlove 2 жыл бұрын
@@slendydie1267 i thought it was more "G-string" as in "G-Force-string". 😂
@acefighterpilot
@acefighterpilot 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry Steve, the 4090 Tie will only come with one power cable, but you'll have to be sure to plug it into a different circuit from your PC.
@Pyroteq
@Pyroteq 2 жыл бұрын
The 4090 will require a C19 power cable straight to a wall socket.
@razter6678
@razter6678 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pyroteq With a 3-prong dryer plug on the end
@phoenixfire8978
@phoenixfire8978 2 жыл бұрын
@@razter6678 Nah, I predict it’ll use plugin you encounter with ovens and cookers. They’ll perform double duty.
@Bigdog1787
@Bigdog1787 2 жыл бұрын
No it will require you to have a three phase wall built into which ever room your going to put this PC in.🤭
@silentjoe9588
@silentjoe9588 2 жыл бұрын
@@phoenixfire8978 get 2 and use the backplates as a panini press
@GrantyoRT
@GrantyoRT 2 жыл бұрын
PC Building in 2012: Unleash your GPU! PC Building in 2022: E-leash your GPU!
@benjaminjohnson6118
@benjaminjohnson6118 2 жыл бұрын
This is underappreciated
@xelxiez90
@xelxiez90 2 жыл бұрын
Haha!
@chemicalbrucey157
@chemicalbrucey157 2 жыл бұрын
Like wtf was wrong with the traditional GPU support bracket? EVGA pulling things out of their ass now
@CaptainScorpio24
@CaptainScorpio24 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@prla5400
@prla5400 2 жыл бұрын
Leash other expenditures, E-leash your gpu!
@NickCharles
@NickCharles 2 жыл бұрын
Remember when 2 slot cards were considered massive? How the times have changed...
@dtemp132
@dtemp132 2 жыл бұрын
I remember my 3dfx Voodoo3 single-slot GPU :)
@CaptainScorpio24
@CaptainScorpio24 2 жыл бұрын
right my msi gtx 1060 6gb was single slot dual fan card right now i have nvdia rtx 3070 FE
@blazinghobby7089
@blazinghobby7089 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainScorpio24 3070 fe is pretty smol, although yes bigger than 1060s fs
@alexquittner3466
@alexquittner3466 2 жыл бұрын
I remember thinking cards would never get phatter than the Asus DirectCU II GTX 580
@Pasi123
@Pasi123 2 жыл бұрын
I used to think my GTX 660 DirectCU II OC was big but now it's tiny compared to modern cards
@alioth2021
@alioth2021 2 жыл бұрын
Triple slot coolers 400+ watts from the wall $2k+ prices ~8fps difference Yep, it's gaming time.
@guthhalf5484
@guthhalf5484 2 жыл бұрын
Is such a joke it's actually sad
@frangarcia1699
@frangarcia1699 2 жыл бұрын
Also it's out of stock for some reason
@guthhalf5484
@guthhalf5484 2 жыл бұрын
@@frangarcia1699 no doubt they made about 500 of them.
@guy_autordie
@guy_autordie 2 жыл бұрын
@@frangarcia1699 3090 are still on higher price than 3090ti :')
@mathewcalaway7684
@mathewcalaway7684 2 жыл бұрын
PC Gaming Master Race
@hackerman7682
@hackerman7682 2 жыл бұрын
3090 TIE... This will destroy the rebels for sure.
@bubbledoubletrouble
@bubbledoubletrouble 2 жыл бұрын
“That’s no moon…”
@dr.ryttmastarecctm6595
@dr.ryttmastarecctm6595 2 жыл бұрын
"I've got a bad feeling about this."
@johnscaramis2515
@johnscaramis2515 2 жыл бұрын
So the RX 6950XT will be a TIE-Fighter? 🤣
@Gunni1972
@Gunni1972 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnscaramis2515 no, it will be an X-wing design, ofc..
@cthomas2812
@cthomas2812 2 жыл бұрын
All you gosh darn Star Wars nerds 🤓.. I love it :)
@lagpi
@lagpi 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Ngl that TIE voice overlay jumpscared me a bit 😅 Would've been fitting, had the e-leash been tie shaped
@Knowbody42
@Knowbody42 2 жыл бұрын
It's up there with MLID pronouncing x86 as "times 86"
@DarkReturns1
@DarkReturns1 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, missed opportunity
@AaronL548
@AaronL548 2 жыл бұрын
12:01 is exactly why I'm so terrified of GPU disassembly. Whenever I hear that noise I wonder if I'm about to snap the PCB clean in half...
@GeraldMMonroe
@GeraldMMonroe 2 жыл бұрын
What is really scary is seeing the $2200 pcb flexing.
@douglas8568
@douglas8568 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, that sound looks always of crushing layers to me, total fear
@SkateClipsAndTips
@SkateClipsAndTips 2 жыл бұрын
Yup I tried to take apart my 3060ti on the day I unboxed it, but the thermal pads acted like glue and I couldn't get it off at all, didn't want to force it. Was worried of breaking it
@camerontreacy8771
@camerontreacy8771 2 жыл бұрын
bought a gtx 1080ti and went the remove the backplate, ended up lifting off a vram chip off the back i did not get a refund
@hsharma3933
@hsharma3933 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why I run a heat gun on the card or only open it after it’s been running for a few min under load. Some 3090s can get destroyed if you don’t remove the cooler while it’s warm. No clue what’s happening there but it completely bricks the card. Fortunately evga is aware and accepts RMAs for it.
@timhartherz5652
@timhartherz5652 2 жыл бұрын
The 4090Ti will probably come with a telescopic support beam made from high-strength steel, occupy 5-6 Slots and draw 1000W.
@Morpheus-pt3wq
@Morpheus-pt3wq 2 жыл бұрын
4090Ti will be external GPU with its own PSU - maybe even little nuclear power plant or diesel generator (in price).
@MrHakisak
@MrHakisak 2 жыл бұрын
Unironically I would love to see a 4 slot card with 2 90mm fans the blow air along the card and out through the case slots.
@HDSpaceFox
@HDSpaceFox 2 жыл бұрын
they will ask you to just put the box underneath and make it out of steel.
@windhelmguard6618
@windhelmguard6618 2 жыл бұрын
We’ll need a motherboard EEATX or an EATXL
@Enonymouse_
@Enonymouse_ 2 жыл бұрын
TBH 4k and beyond will probably just be it's own stand alone case. :D
@Kermeous
@Kermeous 2 жыл бұрын
That's cool you get to call Jacob to figure that out. It's nice when you can actually get ahold of someone at a company, especially a direct call. Really adds a human element to the business. Bonus points to EVGA for having that representation and communication with content creators.
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo 2 жыл бұрын
Cute poodle
@lesliegee42069
@lesliegee42069 2 жыл бұрын
EVGA seems like a great company. Really makes you happy to see them being so open with you all for these reviews, hopefully it continues.
@CosmicApe
@CosmicApe Жыл бұрын
EVGA is one of the best companies to buy your parts from. Amazing service and warranty.
@defenestratorX
@defenestratorX 6 ай бұрын
I got Evga 3090 and X570 Evga amd board to go with it
@hardlyworgen71
@hardlyworgen71 2 жыл бұрын
Decorate the E-leash to look like a miniature rigging on a sailing ship and do a nautical themed build.
@SilverJackLeg
@SilverJackLeg 2 жыл бұрын
Or, decorate e-leash to look like Spiderman holding that train.
@hardlyworgen71
@hardlyworgen71 2 жыл бұрын
@Jim McIntosh Thank you. I'm not a sailor so I did not know the correct term.
@Zosu22
@Zosu22 2 жыл бұрын
I’m afraid of the 4090…
@Donnerwamp
@Donnerwamp 2 жыл бұрын
Seems likenthere are many more GPUs that need to last another generation... My 2080Ti will have to do exactly that...
@Zosu22
@Zosu22 2 жыл бұрын
@@Donnerwamp hey, the 2080ti is going to be useful for a long time. It might even be more relevant than the 3070 long term with the extra memory.
@hovant6666
@hovant6666 2 жыл бұрын
Go check out 'Captains Workspace' video on the 4090, he got an early sample
@Donnerwamp
@Donnerwamp 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zosu22 I'm not concerned with performance, it's plenty enough for the power draw, I'm more worried about the card aging and dying. Not only because a similar performing card is expensive, but because I really don't like the current offerings. I like the team green eco system with DLSS, Shadowplay and all that (so AMD isn't an option for now), but the current cards just draw waaaaay too much power for the performance. That's just not worth it to me.
@jongamez5163
@jongamez5163 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zosu22 People were complaining about the 2080 Ti value back then but I think it's a much better value than any other card ! It has 11GB of VRAM and you can Water-cool it + OC the shit out of it (I put a Kraken G12 + X62 on mine) and was able to OC the GDDR6 to 16.5Gbps and +245 MHz on the Core !!! I would get performance between a 3070 Ti and a 3080 ! I sold it to buy a 3090 because I have a 4K OLED TV and wanted the HDMI 2.1 for 4K@120Hz 12-bit Full RGB but I really loved my 2080 Ti 😇
@JoshuaFinger
@JoshuaFinger 2 жыл бұрын
They could've called it the Ti Tether, Top of the Case GPU Brace, GPU Suspender, EVGrAppler, or literally anything else.
@introprospector
@introprospector 2 жыл бұрын
Not anything else... 'Tie' definitely wouldn't end well
@JoshuaFinger
@JoshuaFinger 2 жыл бұрын
@@introprospector They could've called it the TiE!!! lol
@phoenixfire8978
@phoenixfire8978 2 жыл бұрын
I like Graphics Brassier or GPU Bra...all the support your sagging GPU needs.
@cyan_2169
@cyan_2169 2 жыл бұрын
Leash me E-daddy
@andrewalexander9508
@andrewalexander9508 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have gone with Ti Tie!
@jakerichey4658
@jakerichey4658 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of *Christmas Vacation* when the lights finally work and it shuts everyone else's power off lol.
@dr.ryttmastarecctm6595
@dr.ryttmastarecctm6595 2 жыл бұрын
Where would they put the micro-fusion reactor to drive the card to "ludicrous speed"?
@alex0589
@alex0589 2 жыл бұрын
Then raytracing is like "SH*TTER'S FULL!"
@Hugh_I
@Hugh_I 2 жыл бұрын
2080Ti: yeah, it sags a lil' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 3090TI: here's a crane to hold your card up in your case 4090Ti: Do you want an ITX motherboard and 1,5kW PSU with your card, that fits perfectly well within its cooling solution? 5095Ti: bring your own TARDIS
@PutsOnSneakers
@PutsOnSneakers 2 жыл бұрын
6095Ti Super: Have you harnased the power of a black hole yet?
@Derek-mg2le
@Derek-mg2le 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing the interaction between Steve and a contact at EVGA was surprisingly interesting to me.
@attractivegd9531
@attractivegd9531 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for any answer from them since around 4 months...
@TheCrazyCanuck420
@TheCrazyCanuck420 2 жыл бұрын
One of the many reasons I only buy Nvidia hardware from EVGA. Their RMA process, the purchasing queue, quality hardware, and they work well with their customers.
@attractivegd9531
@attractivegd9531 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCrazyCanuck420 The only reason I buy EVGA is to grab the 10 years extended warranty. When you invest 1K euros in something you d'rather not want it to be out of warranty after only 3 years.
@pauldunecat
@pauldunecat 2 жыл бұрын
EVGA was solid on this, gonna keep that in mind for the future. Nice.
@KarrasBastomi
@KarrasBastomi 2 жыл бұрын
they are preparing for 500W+ of Ada lovelace flagship
@adaycj
@adaycj 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, not only did it look like a well made product, the phone call stuff was enlightening. Even if it was "insiders" conversing. I'd love for Steve to call Gigabyte during a review like that ... "please hold while we direct you to someone that has no clue" ...
@supahvaporeon
@supahvaporeon 2 жыл бұрын
The presence of the "E-leash" leads me to believe that the cards have achieved full sentience, and are now shipping with pre-installed fetishes
@jsteezy80
@jsteezy80 2 жыл бұрын
Just need the E-Choker and ball gig
@OgLatinoHeat
@OgLatinoHeat 2 жыл бұрын
@@jsteezy80 lmaooo! E-choker and a BLUETOOTH ball gag
@PutsOnSneakers
@PutsOnSneakers 2 жыл бұрын
dont forget the plugs, never forget the plugs
@LordZordid
@LordZordid 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the 40-50s they predicted in the future we would have computers as large as skyscrapers! They were close in their predictions, except it would eventually be graphic cards as large as skyscrapers.
@Alarios711
@Alarios711 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes 400W+, gaming while using more electricity than a washing machine.
@Ocastia
@Ocastia 2 жыл бұрын
Dammit i wanted to correct you but the most efficient washing machines draw slightly less power (493W). I'm not Shure if that is a fair comparison, considering that the we're comparing the GPU at 100% to the washing machine at Eco+ wontcleanshit mode, but still.
@Yasokuhl35
@Yasokuhl35 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ocastia well your washing machine usually also only runs for 1-2h at a time
@andreabriganti5113
@andreabriganti5113 2 жыл бұрын
Actually around 500W with this custom model. Picture a 600W 4090, not hard to imagine after Hopper. Not sure if I have to cry, go in berserk modality or laugh like I never did before.
@andreabriganti5113
@andreabriganti5113 2 жыл бұрын
@Gareth Tucker Mate, it's worse than that. This cards are for people that don't care at all and that's even more dangerous. People that want to see the world burn, are crazy but not enough to not avoid fire that can burn them too. Those that doesn't care are blind fools that will let this world burn faster and will not see when the fire will hit them. When this will happen, they will complain others and keep burning. Meanwhile, everyone will pay for theyr ego. Insanity is becoming the new normality...
@haydensmith3341
@haydensmith3341 2 жыл бұрын
The E-leash is nice, but kinda feels like we need to go back to the old AT days where cases had a slot on the inside of the front to also provide support for expansion cards. I remember getting a Sound Blaster AWE32 and finally discovering what those little plastic rails at the front of the case were for. I've never seen another expansion card that large, but seeing as those little rails were common in cases I presume there was a standard max size for an ISA card that meant cases could be built and cards designed to add that extra support at the front.
@choppergirl
@choppergirl Жыл бұрын
Back in the day, motherboards were flat ont he table, so this would of been totally fine. It's when someone flipped themt o stand veritcal and the slots are hanging out in the air, that precipitates this problem because cards were never suppose tob e hanging sideways like this... ever. It's like mounting your fish tanks ideways instead of with the open top on skyward. The solution is to lay your comptuer on ti's side just like intendend like on the PC/XT/AT/Mac2 fx/Altair88/ et al. You placed yor ocmptuer on the desktop flat, not turn them into a cool looking tower skyscraper.
@opensourcedev22
@opensourcedev22 2 жыл бұрын
Considering the wattage, I'm disappointed they didn't mount anti gravity jets to keep the card from sagging. Shambolic effort
@servantsochrist
@servantsochrist 2 жыл бұрын
fibre glass is very strong....nothing to worry about....it's springy too so it goes back in shape.....like steel springs
@Shendue
@Shendue Жыл бұрын
@@servantsochrist Problem are the PCI connector, that is rigid, it's gonna bend and potentially crack, and the motherboard itself. There's a reason why the produced included a support.
@BrazenBob
@BrazenBob 2 жыл бұрын
3090 ties is a lot of ties
@renatoigmed
@renatoigmed 2 жыл бұрын
ahh that's why it's so expensive!
@cybercat1531
@cybercat1531 2 жыл бұрын
@@Amocat1 GIF/JIF Tomato/Tomatoe Potato/Kartoffel/Aardappel TI/Ti/Tie/Tea I'm afraid its out of their hands, take it or leave it. Publics gonna speak it. Corps gonna cash it in regardless. Its irrelevant, only true trifling pedants waffle about inconsequential trivialities.
@StealthNinja4577
@StealthNinja4577 2 жыл бұрын
The cards just got so advanced SLI has to catch up. Clearly you can't have the ultimate rig unless you SLI two 3090 TI's for ultimate power
@BrutusAlbion
@BrutusAlbion 2 жыл бұрын
might as well start investing in a nuclear plant to power the thing as well ...
@frodolaggins6868
@frodolaggins6868 2 жыл бұрын
My friend was joking about doing a SLI system with the just announced 3090 TI Kingpin models. Asked him where he was gonna fit both 360mm radiators and install the special clothing dryer outlet to power it.
@BrutusAlbion
@BrutusAlbion 2 жыл бұрын
@@frodolaggins6868 the guy has to run an extra power line into the bathroom just to power this monstrosity.
@NoizyCr1cket
@NoizyCr1cket 2 жыл бұрын
Only two? Peasant.
@randybobandy9828
@randybobandy9828 2 жыл бұрын
@@frodolaggins6868 you can run 2 3090ti on a normal 120v outlet. Upto 1500w
@onedeadcat
@onedeadcat 2 жыл бұрын
If this keeps up all future PCs will require a briefcase-sized external GPU dock, with its own 1000+W PSU and liquid cooling system. Absolutely ridiculous. Vega from DOOM draws less power.
@metallicamadsam
@metallicamadsam 2 жыл бұрын
Vega is an environmentally friendly prius incomparison
@nebufabu
@nebufabu 2 жыл бұрын
If this trend continues, then for performance reasons, we'll just plug a CPU board into a PCIE slot in a video card, and I'm not joking. I mean NV just said they're going to put a CPU socket on some Hopper boards, that's literally one step away from that.
@luminatrixfanfiction
@luminatrixfanfiction 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, I'm officially impressed with EVGA's engineering. While I'm not impressed with the 3090ti's, I will be looking to most likely get an EVGA card of the next gen graphics card this second half of this year. The cooling is very impressive, especially when it's air cooling a 500 watt power hungry card. Props to EVGA. If they can deliver similar results for the next generation of AMD 7000 series cards later this year, I'm sold. And as a side comment, I doubt, many users are going to be interested in getting an NVIDIA card that draws 600 watts and still falls short in terms of performance next to AMD's lineup due to power inefficiency.
@GewelReal
@GewelReal 2 жыл бұрын
EVGA was always top quality Also they don't make AMD cards, do they?
@luminatrixfanfiction
@luminatrixfanfiction 2 жыл бұрын
@@GewelReal Yeah I agree, they make really well-engineered after-market cards. But if they don't make AMD cards, they should consider doing so if the next gen AMD cards are crowned.
@emu071981
@emu071981 2 жыл бұрын
It is going to be an interesting year with AMD and Nvidia actually competing with each other in performance again. Been way too long since AMD has been competitive in the high end of GPUs.
@hofkingpin3216
@hofkingpin3216 2 жыл бұрын
@@luminatrixfanfiction i don't think they can make amd cards, they have like an agreement or contract sth with nvidia, which is why they can keep their price so low near msrp
@luminatrixfanfiction
@luminatrixfanfiction 2 жыл бұрын
@@hofkingpin3216 Ah, that makes sense. Well, that's a shame as they make really good cooling solutions to tackle hot scorcher cards. Are you perchance, _the_ Kingpin?
@adamekcar
@adamekcar 2 жыл бұрын
The extra steps you take to get as much information as possible is amazing. Sub for life!
@AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup
@AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup 2 жыл бұрын
Well, done, Steve and GN team! Thanks for all your hard work, & your exceptional quality of in-depth analysis and journalism.
@Dystopikachu
@Dystopikachu 2 жыл бұрын
When my graphics card consumes as much power as my vacuum cleaner, I know it's time to stop vacuum cleaning to save on the electricity bill.
@mrsinister279
@mrsinister279 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I would do the same lol
@metallicamadsam
@metallicamadsam 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@ffwast
@ffwast 2 жыл бұрын
Just install better dust filters and crank up the cooling fans
@wikichen3158
@wikichen3158 2 жыл бұрын
So Nividia become the competitor for Dyson right now?
@PDXCustomPCS
@PDXCustomPCS 2 жыл бұрын
I just wash the floor by hand with Windex now.
@volkswagenginetta
@volkswagenginetta 2 жыл бұрын
Hey remember when the 750 ti was a super popular (and well loved) card because a very common config was to have it only powered by the pcie slot? Those were good times.
@bootchoo96
@bootchoo96 2 жыл бұрын
1050ti is also pci-e powered, gtx 1650 too
@volkswagenginetta
@volkswagenginetta 2 жыл бұрын
@@bootchoo96 yea but people generally poo-pooed the gtx 1650. The 1050 ti was also a generlaly liked card, but the 750 ti was really in a league of its own for the praise that it got. Honestly my favorite cards are always the pcie powered cards because they were plug in play in virtually any machine and got you usually competent/usable performance even if it was at lower settings. prevented a lot of dell OptiPlex's becoming e-waste.
@FooPanda
@FooPanda 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still rocking one ^^'
@ricdintino9502
@ricdintino9502 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for highlighting the e-leash and its highly intuitive installation process.
@dravenlee4473
@dravenlee4473 2 жыл бұрын
It honestly feels like we should just be getting stand alone mini-cases for GPUs that connect to your PC at this point. Attaching these monsters to a motherboard feels like we've reached our physical limitations.
@LohJiaHung
@LohJiaHung 2 жыл бұрын
eGPU enclosures already exist.
@tempofugo168
@tempofugo168 2 жыл бұрын
@@LohJiaHung Not common on Desktop though. They're more a laptop thing right now
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@tempofugo168 You can use them on desktop too, but having "specialized" eGPU for desktops would be interesting
@CYKuo-yl9lg
@CYKuo-yl9lg 2 жыл бұрын
3090 ti is the GPU that you get more metal than performance improvements over 3090.
@toshikikarukawa8148
@toshikikarukawa8148 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a game developer, I work with Unreal Engine, 3ds max and blender, and... I use a gtx960 from 8 years ago XD. Yes, I can see the benefit of using such a monstrous GPU, but in the end you can work with almost whatever you have, and If I could choose, at that price range and power consumption, I would go for a standard 3090, before that thing. Not that I can afford a standard 3090 anyway.
@ffwast
@ffwast 2 жыл бұрын
The difference with EVGA's cards is only $80 if you can get them.
@evancunningham6582
@evancunningham6582 2 жыл бұрын
omg loved that voice over at the start!!
@kunstderfugue
@kunstderfugue 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the power efficiency trend? It's the new decade so the environment is automatically not a problem?
@ronkemperful
@ronkemperful 2 жыл бұрын
Ah come on, don’t be a spoil sport! Think of using the computer as a small space heater. This allows you to turn down the thermostat for the rest of the house. It’s an energy saver!
@benjaminjohnson6118
@benjaminjohnson6118 2 жыл бұрын
Nvidia "And I took that personally"
@tarfeef_4268
@tarfeef_4268 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronkemperful lol when I was living in a studio I literally never turned the heat on cause I had GPUs :D in fact sometimes it was too warm.
@NightKev
@NightKev 2 жыл бұрын
Flagship cards were never about efficiency, they're always pushed way past the peak of the efficiency curve to squeeze out those last few MHz.
@CaffeinatedFrostbite
@CaffeinatedFrostbite 2 жыл бұрын
because most "environmental" stuff is bunk. global warming is real but its mostly natural. the earth heats and cools throughout time. if you truly care about the environment use nuclear energy
@blackmennewstyle
@blackmennewstyle 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing more satisfying than disassemble your own hardware and have a look at PCB design marvels
@christianh4723
@christianh4723 2 жыл бұрын
Totally looking forward to NOT upgrading to a 4000 series flagship (plus purchasing the massive PSU I'd need) for performance gains that aren't anywhere near proportional. Even if it guaranteed 144 fps + in the most demanding games I think I'd refuse the purchase out of spite. Nvidia needs to learn a hard lesson.
@christianh4723
@christianh4723 2 жыл бұрын
@Turkey Jeff I try to stick with my budget parts / build and make the best of it (OC'ing, relying on developers to optimize their games for PC, which they do very unreliably), not giving in to the trend necessarily. But I can understand your frustration. I guess it just hit harder now with the news/rumors that the power consumption will be such an absurd jump.
@Nareimooncatt
@Nareimooncatt 2 жыл бұрын
7:31 Jay's video reviewing the card included him mounting it in a case. Even without the leash, it seemed pretty rock solid due to reinforcing the case bracket. I'd use the leash as a backup and make a tower crane construction themed build to incorporate it into the aesthetic, but I wonder just how much it's really needed.
@DukeNukem8075
@DukeNukem8075 2 жыл бұрын
The next version of a Ti card will require a house breaker circuit labeled GPU.
@leckthetech6132
@leckthetech6132 2 жыл бұрын
Never seen a 5A breaker in a house before...or a 10A either. What mains voltage are you running?
@Inposimpible
@Inposimpible 2 жыл бұрын
At this price point i would expect the components to be soldered on straight and not crooked like the inductors at 14:05
@parzivalhawking1132
@parzivalhawking1132 2 жыл бұрын
Waited for it!
@achaerna.6662
@achaerna.6662 2 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone, I recommend you go to 11:18 and watch Steve unscrew that plate with the GN toolkit. I'm totally plugging here, but that was what convinced me to go buy one. You might already have a good kit, but this kit doesn't require swapping bits. It's always ready to go and once I realized that, it was a no-brainer to get one. /end plug
@billfiskilis4539
@billfiskilis4539 2 жыл бұрын
Ohh so love these tear downs, watching from Australia
@bronzeagehuman
@bronzeagehuman 2 жыл бұрын
I watch GN strictly for the comedy at this point, considering the state of the market.
@sinasouls
@sinasouls 2 жыл бұрын
So, the 3090ti is an overclocked, better cooled 3090 with a TIE.
@brandonjohnson4121
@brandonjohnson4121 2 жыл бұрын
Please let me know which software can add hundreds of physical cores to my 3080 Ti. Thanks in advance.
@andrew6239
@andrew6239 2 жыл бұрын
Please let me know which software can add hundreds of physical cores to my 3080ti. Thanks in advance
@xelxiez90
@xelxiez90 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@shuttleman27c
@shuttleman27c 2 жыл бұрын
It's got a couple more cores
@jongamez5163
@jongamez5163 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonjohnson4121 You mean the +5% amount of Cores is going to change EVERYTHING and run Cyberpunk 2077 at 4K 120fps with RT & Psycho settings ?! 🤪
@dangingerich2559
@dangingerich2559 2 жыл бұрын
These things remind me of the heatsinks on some old minicomputers. When I worked at a server software test lab many years ago, we had an RS6000 based HP system with two processor boards with heatsinks about this size.
@TheInvisableGamer19
@TheInvisableGamer19 2 жыл бұрын
As an electrical engineer it’s always refreshing to see your uploads. Thank you!
@neonlights_12
@neonlights_12 2 жыл бұрын
Is this even a "card" anymore? More like a discreet graphics BRICK
@OmegaPhattyAcid
@OmegaPhattyAcid 2 жыл бұрын
Really impressive engineering and design, I hope these concepts port to the top 40 Series cards.
@justadumbprsn9930
@justadumbprsn9930 2 жыл бұрын
I love that your videos are for the pc tech nerds like me. Really like your videos
@bacteria266
@bacteria266 2 жыл бұрын
Your Chanel is all I need. Thank you for all the effort 👌
@JuraIbis
@JuraIbis 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny because I made a handmade e-leash for my 1080 way back. Its 3 tie wraps in a loop that tie to the top of the middle side panel indent and wraps around both PCIE power connectors to the card. I didn't like the look of the card sagging and it triggered my OCD also.
@miguelgutierrez2759
@miguelgutierrez2759 2 жыл бұрын
A tear-down of a card designed to tear a hole in your pocket.
@Knowbody42
@Knowbody42 2 жыл бұрын
They were made for people with really large pockets.
@patrickhector
@patrickhector 2 жыл бұрын
and your motherboard, with that sag
@kelvin1316
@kelvin1316 2 жыл бұрын
And in your electrical bill LOL
@gaptoofgranny
@gaptoofgranny 2 жыл бұрын
All those leads and that power consumption is giving me flashbacks to the Voodoo 5 6000 with it's external power supply connection.
@RainyDevil76
@RainyDevil76 2 жыл бұрын
I love these teardown videos. "Back to you, Steve."
@johnhicks8626
@johnhicks8626 2 жыл бұрын
Dumb question - how close are we to "build your own graphics card" - modular GPU, memory, cooling, the works? GPUs have hit the point where they make up 2/3 of the value of some high end builds.
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo 2 жыл бұрын
Not close enough!!!
@brocksamson3282
@brocksamson3282 2 жыл бұрын
I think the larger questions are: how do you afford to pay your power bill? and how do you cool the room this thing runs in? It is basically a large electric heater that also does computer graphics.
@dojelnotmyrealname4018
@dojelnotmyrealname4018 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, every computer is a large electric heater that also does computer things. This thing's just an enormous one.
@gareth432
@gareth432 2 жыл бұрын
the calculation is easy. you have your pc with this thing in it using 1kW - what is all heat - and you need an air condition in your room to kill the 1kW heat, what would take another 400W for the air condition to do that. so together you will have constant power use of 2,4kW to ensure your room has the same temperature as without your pc running... I guess alaska will become a popular place to live for nerds ;-)
@brocksamson3282
@brocksamson3282 2 жыл бұрын
@@gareth432 yeah, in cold winter this is all win, but I live in southern Florida where I don't ever need heat. Maybe I could make a second "dryer vent" to blow the heat out of my house.
@dojelnotmyrealname4018
@dojelnotmyrealname4018 2 жыл бұрын
@@gareth432 That's... Not how that works. You don't use 1400 kw to move 400 w, the 400 w moves the 1000 watts (and produces heat outside the house, which doesn't need to be moved). That's also not accounting for differences between ambient and optimal air temperature (in winter you wouldn't need to move the air at all).
@BigBoyXP4014
@BigBoyXP4014 Жыл бұрын
After about a year of having mine, it's certainly warm but it's not the end of the world. A plug-in spaceheater would pull 1000w on low or 1500w on high, even having flashed the BIOS with a modded version that's unlocked up to 600w it pulls between 225-500w depending on what game I'm playing with the all-time high being 529w playing RDR2. My full system power use is about 800w with everything running at full tilt on a 1000w platinum rated PSU. Even if you add my monitor and all my peripherals at full power use, and the AC, and assume they're both running maxed out 12 hours a day at 14 cents a kilowatt hour which is more expensive than what I pay as well the yearly total for running all of this comes out to ~1500$ in electricity costs. As it stands my bill went up about 60$ a month when I first got everything running for a more realistic example. It's not free but it's far from being crazy expensive.
@TheSmileyTek
@TheSmileyTek 2 жыл бұрын
That heat sink / vapor chamber solution is a work of art imo. Just love it. If only it was in the $600 to $700 price range 😁. I also noticed some additional pins below (or above) the 12 pin connector. I assume those tiny pins are per the ATX 3.0, ATX12VO Standard?
@DavisMakesGames
@DavisMakesGames 2 жыл бұрын
The heatpipe on the backplate reminds me of the HD 5870, had one on the power delivery but that was even smaller. Can't think that that would be super effective.
@MrNside
@MrNside 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, I would watch content on these halo products with a healthy level of interest. Knowing that most people are buying readily available mid-range cards, it was fun to think about what you could get if money was no issue. These days, I look at products like this as manufacturers rubbing salt in the wound. GPUs are just starting to get closer to MSRP, sure. But several months back, while we were still looking at 200% or more pricing on GPUs, Nvidia was saying, "Now is the time we need to design and release an even more expensive card."
@justinthematrix
@justinthematrix 2 жыл бұрын
Well put
@ClementIV
@ClementIV 2 жыл бұрын
A good thing about not being able to afford this at this moment is that I can wait until 4090 TI with double the performance and maybe more affordable.
@ALEX-WTF-ds4pe
@ALEX-WTF-ds4pe Жыл бұрын
Спи и надейся) там максимум 30% припрост будет с ещё большим потреблением
@ALEX-WTF-ds4pe
@ALEX-WTF-ds4pe Жыл бұрын
Ну и цена на 4090ti будет в полтора раза выше чем на 3090ti
@egornikulin9504
@egornikulin9504 2 жыл бұрын
I just LOVE how Steve is more confused by the support *thing* adjustment than by the card teardown itself
@hudbaoir3610
@hudbaoir3610 2 жыл бұрын
Love the tie gag ^^
@CaptainVKanth
@CaptainVKanth 2 жыл бұрын
Needs a really large warning label on amount of space it takes.
@THEpicND
@THEpicND 2 жыл бұрын
The e leash is actually the TIE
@zizimugen4470
@zizimugen4470 2 жыл бұрын
18:15 It looks like the two spots of sparse compound may have been where the screws were tightened more than the adjacent screws.
@OsamaRana
@OsamaRana 2 жыл бұрын
10:19 "So this is just connected to the PCB That's the LED That's not connected to the backplate That's awesome to see" Such poetry.
@HDJess
@HDJess 2 жыл бұрын
It's so refreshing to actually see a well-engineered and functional product, considering how full the market is with cost-cutting and cheap, plasticky trash. For the price, well, it is what it is, it'll go down a bit later but right now, whoever wants and especially NEEDS a 3090Ti, wouldn't care too much if they pay 1500 or 2200.
@71001L
@71001L 2 жыл бұрын
Should have named these "titan something" instead of 90 series tbh.
@jdcope68
@jdcope68 2 жыл бұрын
That little RGB panel on the back of the card is cool. I have been trying to find something like that to light up the NZXT logo on my G12 bracket I am using on my 1080ti.
@lightly-red-huedmaleindivi6266
@lightly-red-huedmaleindivi6266 2 жыл бұрын
This looks like a fantastic card to mount upright in my modern pc case with tempered glass and fully-sealed plastic front panel.
@infra1
@infra1 2 жыл бұрын
That's a sharp looking video card. A gentleman's GPU.
@gmualum08
@gmualum08 2 жыл бұрын
At wealthy gentlemen's price. I have the equipment in a 3080 FTW3 Ultra and that hurt enough!
@BiigiieCheeese
@BiigiieCheeese 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for PCI-E to be outdated due to shear weight of the cards
@shukterhousejive
@shukterhousejive 2 жыл бұрын
This is the perfect place to make a sheer/shear typo
@inPHiniTeChA0s
@inPHiniTeChA0s 2 жыл бұрын
I always love when Jacob is called without warning. He's a champ.
@myfavoriteviewer306
@myfavoriteviewer306 2 жыл бұрын
Jacob seems like a decent guy, I'm glad you were able to include that bit in the video.
@davidmoore1880
@davidmoore1880 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see why at this point they don't just cool both sides of the card. I'd like to see numbers if heat pipes ran to the back so they could do 6 fans.
@VeProducctions
@VeProducctions 2 жыл бұрын
I think we're getting to the point where card manufacturers need to start using liquid coolers because the efforts to relieve the mechanical stress at the pcie slot are getting ridiculous
@Tommyd2k
@Tommyd2k 2 жыл бұрын
They do. There are lots of cards that have factory water coolers. Self contained units and ones designed for custom loops, even hybrid models with heatsinks and fans on the VRM's and an AIO cooling the GPU + VRAM.
@georgevogiatzis2715
@georgevogiatzis2715 2 жыл бұрын
Maaan i love the silent base 802. Thank you Steve
@berend213
@berend213 2 жыл бұрын
that support cord reminds me of that gigabyte watercooled card from 2014 that came with an extendable support pole. Surprised they haven't done that more with how massive cards are these days.
@abavariannormiepleb9470
@abavariannormiepleb9470 2 жыл бұрын
Mod idea: Desolder the 3090 Ti memory chips from two 3090 Tis and check if you can build a 48 GB 3090 :)
@mrfilipelaureanoaguiar
@mrfilipelaureanoaguiar 2 жыл бұрын
Thats a thick heatsink but thin heatpipes. I wonder if it really worth for rendering too.For 1000$ maybe worth it. How much top end 24GB ram and the I9 12900k would worth on a board if it was a GPU?
@luigiwilwayco8733
@luigiwilwayco8733 2 жыл бұрын
That TIE voice over gets me everytime hahahaha great humor as always!
@wubbsy
@wubbsy 2 жыл бұрын
A real thing of beauty. EVGA's board and cooler design is always so cool.
@mightylink65
@mightylink65 2 жыл бұрын
How could there be space for a second 12-pin connector... that would imply they originally designed this card to draw 900w!
@PutsOnSneakers
@PutsOnSneakers 2 жыл бұрын
No it means this card is designed with future use in mind. 4000 series
@deepfriedavocado
@deepfriedavocado 2 жыл бұрын
i miss the days when it was like "wow a triple slot card?? can they even do that" and now its like "ok 3.5 that's cool i guess"
@SimplexPL
@SimplexPL 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Steve!
@j-ohara
@j-ohara 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Steve!
@thepcenthusiastchannel2300
@thepcenthusiastchannel2300 2 жыл бұрын
We used to photoshop joke GPUs, mostly ridiculing 3Dfx and their Voodoo5 6000, back in the day. The RTX 3090 Ti is more of a joke than anything we photoshopped. That thing is huge (and ugly).
@shukterhousejive
@shukterhousejive 2 жыл бұрын
It took an extra 22 years but we've finally built the BitchinFast 3D 2000
@ffwast
@ffwast 2 жыл бұрын
@@shukterhousejive they've released the 2022 now
@AmvC
@AmvC 2 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the 5060ti that will have 10% more performance @ 50% power than this thing.
@rx58000
@rx58000 2 жыл бұрын
My MSI 3060 TI Gaming X trio after one year has a curvature , the curvature is also present on the pcie slot connector and if I shake the computer or close drawers too hard I get a black screen for 10-15 seconds probably GPU disconnecting and reconnecting in the pcie slot. Keeping my PC sleeping so the GPU is vertical fixed the issue and then I wen't ahead and got a vertical GPU mount and now it works fine. I flipped my GPU and kept some weight on it for a month and it has straightened up a bit. GPU support bracket , legs ,etc are really important for such heavy cards
@safetydoggo2721
@safetydoggo2721 2 жыл бұрын
this thing's (mostly) well thought through design and maintainability are nice to see!
@1sonyzz
@1sonyzz 2 жыл бұрын
that's the cooler/heatsink size I want to see becoming a standard for gpu's past xx70 no the puny little 2 slot ones which aren't even enough to cool a lower tier gpu... BIG Heatsink - yes, please.
@TheWretchedWorld
@TheWretchedWorld 2 жыл бұрын
Well it’s not like they have a choice with such high tdp
@BillyAltDel
@BillyAltDel 2 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why they don't just sell these things with water coolers lol
@kevinhamlett1400
@kevinhamlett1400 2 жыл бұрын
I just completely took apart my MSI RTX 2080 Super Gaming X TRIO. Replaced all thermal pads and thermal paste. My card had thermal pads on the capacitors and everything else they could think to put a thermal pad on. My temps dropped by about 10c. It had a lot of dust in it also. I cleaned each fan blade so its like new again.
@WholesaleTurbos
@WholesaleTurbos 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the mini version
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