The 4070 Is Getting Worse?

[@UFDTech]

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[@lordvass3377]

THE WORLDS A BIT ... devided right now might want to Avoid the comment section lol

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Are you shooting that sitting on a toilet? Respect.

[@Thomas_Angelo]

He is just like that

[@ThBlueSalamander]

​@@Thomas_Angelo he does his videos during his bathroom business so that you can watch during your morning mealtimes.

[@Thomas_Angelo]

@@ThBlueSalamander a sacrifice to be grateful for

[@jcarman]

I kept looking at that ironing board thinking it was a really weirdly shaped snow shoe. You could call it ironic.

[@CameronVanNatta]

I wonder if it could be flipped for more sound absorption

[@TheSkubna]

I thought the same thing the last time I saw it

[@ayuchanayuko]

I miss the times when OEMs could configure the VRAM of their graphic cards. You could get 128MB, 256MB, 512MB, and even stupid 1GB DDR3 versions.

[@fuzzymuppet1990]

If my old brain remembers correctly, i think i got my ex gf back around 2003 a pci nvidia fx 5200 with 256mb of ram, to jam into her dell pc with no agp slot so she could play the sims. 256mb was a metric poop ton of memory back in 2003. Especially for a low end card.

[@quantum5661]

unironically, if i see a modding service offering a 16gb rtx 60 or 50 tier low profile card, im buying it. im sick of 6 and 8 gb low profile gpus.

[@toja4309]

Yeah toilet seat reporting should become a trend.

[@UFDTech]

WHAT KIND OF BATHROOM DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE THAT THIS REFLECTS YOUR CRAPPER?

[@toja4309]

​@@UFDTechI see i wasn't the only one making this connection?

[@timmyalley6621]

@@UFDTechI figured it was fitting seeing as how crappy the new Ryzen cpus are

[@patete163]

I too was going to make a toilet comment as well.

[@toja4309]

There is simply something about white walls, small mirror and sitting like that that just looks "toilet-y"

[@Jwalk9000]

Yeah, it is extremely frustrating to only ever be installing Intel systems for offices and professional workspaces. Amd's r3 stuff was extremely competitive, the first two generations of Ryzen should have been adopted on a much larger scale. But the systems are so few and far between.

[@JeckNoTree]

Getting attacked to be a fanboy on any company (even though you are not) is normal on the internet, that's quite a sad truth, yet good for the KZbin Video engagement, cant make everyone happy. there are always angry social media people.

[@davidbruce482]

He's clearly a closet fanboy, GO TEAM BATHROOM!

[@paulbarnett227]

@@davidbruce482 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@qwertyuiop.]

Brett in a bathroom sitting on a toilet...

[@Karlus_LeV]

Real

[@alephcake]

as an AMD fanboy i dont think youre fanboying AMD

[@blisphul8084]

AMD took down ZLUDA before they got Gameworks support. They had a chance to fix the PhysX slowdowns that plagued their cards since the 2000s, but they blew it, and now we still can't play some 2008 games at max settings on AMD.

[@migueltorcuator2152]

Sheep

[@circjit]

don't* you're*

[@drewnewby]

@circuitguy1010 *don't *you're

[@Вольфрамище]

Excuse me sir, can you answer? Why do you hit userbenchmarks admins?

[@JetSe77er]

Your reflection makes it look like you have an awesome mullet. Rock on 😂

[@ScottyG-wood]

In addition to just not having the lower end chops, AMD doesn't have the market saturation in pre builds either. For most of my clients (30-100 endpoints) for basic machines, AMD is just not there for that low to miss end market. Now high-end and gaming, sure. But that's a small market in comparison to what an "average" build would be.

[@madant7777]

Intel is now the opposite of consumer confidence, yet everyone is buying them like nothing happened. So, it does not matter it seems...

[@paulbarnett227]

It's the corporate market buying mid-range CPUs which are not affected by the high-end issues.

[@Aggrosk8]

With the 4070 coming out with GDDR6 instead of 6x memory, if there isn't any price adjustment for that, it's kind of a slap in the face to anyone who would buy that card imo. Even if we're only talking a couple % of difference. I wonder if they are even making it noticeable the difference on the packaging for anyone who would be buying one. I also wonder if it's a different sku# as well. Great way to confuse your potential buyers. (Although unless you were tech savy, or watching great channels such as this one, you may not even know they pulled the ol' switcheroo on the card)

[@arenzricodexd4409]

it is a different SKU. for those who buying GDDR6X vs GDDR6 won't matter.

[@blacklanner5886]

HE NEVER WASHED HIS HANDS!!!

[@SuperfluousIndividual]

I don't think the 4070 changes will have much of an impact, at least from experience. Mine can boost the mem clock by 1000 (from 10500 to 11500 mhz, so from 21 to 23 Gbps if I'm doing the math right) and I saw maybe a 2% increase at best in performance? It was small enough for me to not bother keeping it. But hey, not a specialist. In any case, downgrading a product and keeping the same packaging while hiding the changes from the original spec in the specifications is like hiding a clause in the fine print. Me no like that.

[@lanceislateagain]

Should have just called it 4060 Ti Super.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

there is no hiding. the box will still going to mention if the memory in use is GDDR6 or GDDR6X.

[@MrDilldock]

I recommend setting up an office in the can when you get back from vacation, Brett.

[@psionx1]

outside of handheld SOCs a dedicated GPU will always be better than an APU. the faster GDDR memory, larger die space available, not sharing a cooler and not needing a motherboard bios update to run will always give dedicated GPUs the advantage. at least so long as AMD has to share the same nodes with Nvidia.

[@drimiteros_21]

I suppose, at least, increasing the VRAM amount since they are using GDDR6 wasn't an option 😂

[@allstones1462]

Good on you for having journalistic integrity, and pointing out the important stuff. All those people calling you fanboy just don't want to hear an opinion, for which I shall refer them to a certain OpenAI chatbot.

[@Khloya69]

AMD aren’t using G6x on any of their products, so it’s only Nvidia driving the demand. Even the XTX uses regular G6

[@arenzricodexd4409]

because G6X is nvidia exclusive. it was co-develop by nvidia and micron initially for 30 series.

[@Khloya69]

@@arenzricodexd4409 I know this, he mentioned in the video AMD being partially responsible for the G6X shortage, but they aren’t using G6X at all.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

@@Khloya69 if there is possible suspect that can cause the shortage it will be china. because right now some companies in china end up moding lots of nvidia 40 series with more VRAM for professional and AI works.

[@Khloya69]

@@arenzricodexd4409 yeah, he also said that in the video, but AMD definitely don’t carry any blame for the shortage.

[@Ts6451]

While people may have had some issues with Intel CPUs for a while now, the widespread publication of the issues is likely too recent to affect current market share figures much, also, I would expect that any shift in market share as a result of this affecting people's choices in the next upgrade cycle, meaning it would be a gradual change over the next few quarters as people upgrade older systems. After all, what AMD has to offer currently would be more of a side-grade than an upgrade for people with (possibly) affected Intel systems, and from what we have seen of Zen 5 so far, it doesn't seem to offer any significant improvement for the average desktop user. People using a 13/14th gen Intel system will probably just keep it, and hope that that it can tide them over until some actual upgrade opportunity comes along.

[@jcarman]

I'm waiting for someone to actually do a review of the HX based Zephyrus G16!

[@UFDTech]

Ours arrives at the office today. Will likely have the video out next week.

[@jcarman]

@@UFDTech Awesome, I just saw it come into stock at BestBuy and picked one up. But can't wait to get your thoughts on it too!

[@tysky9152]

Now all I want it to watch him iron a shirt while giving us the hottest tech news on the internet 😂

[@MrBaskins2010]

love these bathroom episodes because that's where i watch them so now we're bowl brothers lol

[@rayzTechTipz2125]

BRETT:- All these problems with these companies, there is no winning side, take it easy on brett

[@ed1659]

Man i hope intel's consumer cpu share is so high is because of all the people like me sitting on an old 8th gen, but looking to upgrade in the near future

[@myne00]

It's sales. Most desktop sales are hp/Dell and the like for corporate refreshes.

[@Jfat69]

Nvidia is pissing in your face with their prices. And everyone is gulping it up.

[@BladeCrew]

I see on Steam hardware survey that most people almost have 32GB of ram on avg. Crazy how far and how much we use these days.

[@myne00]

32gb ddr4 dropped under 100usd a year or so ago. It was a cheap upgrade

[@xaj]

But if AMD doesn’t release low end RX 7000 GPUs when the heck is anyone going to make another PCIe X1 and X4 GPU for us multi-monitor monsters stuck with a paltry 4 monitor outputs on Nvidia GPUs and only a spare X1 or X4 slot to fill?

[@MirceaPrunaru]

AMD just shoots itself in the foot and Nvidia will still outsell them .

[@andresilvasophisma]

When you have to record a show at 15:00 and iron your clothes at 15:30.

[@mysticknight487]

I'm still surprised Nvidia did a Mediatech partnership for client AI when they could just use the ARM cores from Grace Hopper to pair with a smaller version of their GPU and an in house NPU using their NPU library.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

this is part of the deal nvidia made with mediatek before when they try to acquire ARM. plus for consumer grade CPU/SOC mediatek have much better experience than nvidia. the problem with tegra before nvidia only release one chip per generation. competitor like qualcomm and mediatek have proper top to bottom offering in every generation.

[@mysticknight487]

@@arenzricodexd4409 As Qualcomm has shown at least for now in PC arm the ecosystem doesn't appear ready for a vendor to support more than two variants and Nvidia already supported that through bluefield/tegra/Grace SOCs all being supported and coming out based on the same Nvidia generation of cores. In the end I hope the partnership provides a good client SOC since the only fruit so far is the automotive SOC which still has different requirements than an X elite/Ryzen AI/Core Ultra/M competitor.

[@BastyTHz]

but they dont nerf the price, while 4060ti sucks from pci-e 8x

[@Slugbunny]

I'm okay with IGPUs replacing budget cards. Every computer will have native graphics capability and manufacturers have more capacity for actually useful cards! 👏🏻 👏🏻

[@arenzricodexd4409]

problem is those faster iGPU are not cheap. imagine 890M vs RX6600. any budget gamer will pick the later because of significantly better price/performance ratio.

[@Dia1Up]

I don't think GPD was intending the Pocket 4 to be a "gaming" handheld

[@GonnerMeLeggies]

I know everyone is against losing the low low end gpu market, but with how bad the rx 6400 and even the 6500 was, the 7400 could not be good.

[@patete163]

This must be the after breakfast show.

[@Bare_Essence]

No whisper for "Quiet Blue" laptop color in the deals? They are running out of names. I chose the "noisy red" instead.

[@leebutler9470]

ASBO green.... Would need to be from the UK to get the ASBO bit tho. But the name is on point.

[@1Lunex1]

4070 slow 4070 4070 super 4070 ti 4070ti super this is ridicules !

[@TheLuckyPenny]

The framing of this video looks like your poopin 😂 love you vids though ❤

[@timmyalley6621]

Multitasking!

[@jonorgames6596]

@@timmyalley6621 *Multishitting

[@crypto_que]

I figured out yesterday that if you run TWO 4060 Ti OCs you get 32GB of VRAM for $1148.66 vs $2500 (more than double) on a 4090. This is of course for an AI/ML setup, not sure if running those GPUs together would help with gaming. In fact for the cost of one 4090 you could buy FOUR 4060 Ti OCs and have $200 left over to upgrade your processor🤓.

[@jacobew2000]

My problem with the AMD 9000 launch is the fact that the X870-E motherboards are delayed. I am wanting to upgrade my now 4 year old 5950x to the 9950x, but do not want to waste my money on an older motherboard technology.

[@Arthur-jg4ji]

i bought a intel i5 10400f because whe nyou are on a budget it's the best for less than 100euros at that time

[@sherrykda3511]

I dont understand why people don't use a SteamOS like distro on their handhelds like Bazzite which is almost exactly the same. You have to configure basically nothing and it works out of the box.

[@fajaradi1223]

That should be done by the hardware manufacturer, not by the users. If it's done by the users, there's a risk of their handheld won't functioning properly because of missing drivers.

[@sherrykda3511]

@@fajaradi1223 I get that in a way. It would definetly be nice if it was shipped with it from the manufacturer, but the effort of making a USB stick to install it and pressing 3 buttons also isn`t insane. As for the hardware not working cuz of drivers, as long as the hardware isn`t super weird and obscure, which it isn`t on mainstream gaming handhelds, there is basically no issue on a ready to use Linux Distro. The nice thing about Bazzite is that it asks you about your device so that won`t be an issue. For example, they ask you what PC you have and you can select smth generic like "Desktop PC", but you can also choose from Steamdeck, Lenovo Legion GO, ROG Ally (X), GPD devices and some generic Laptop brands. So compatibility is very much guaranteed. You can also pre-select NVidia as your GPU and you`ll have the drives for that too! But I do get your concern

[@JP-be9cx]

that washroom is slowly turning into his new gaming room

[@NovusBovus]

Brett, Come Out the Closet!

[@corwyntalia]

The whole 13/14 gen problem on desktop systems is going to take a while to shake down and show up on the market share, because not everyone has the money to throw down for a top end AMD cpu and compatible motherboard to replace their 13/14gen intel. So the main hit on that for market share is going to trickle in enthusiasts may be waiting for the next AMD big thing if their intel is still limping by on lower cycles/etc.

[@MrUncrustable]

The only thing we can agree on is Brett is a Tech Fanboy.

[@pankothompson5903]

if you got some spare mattresses/clothes or something you could dampen the echo even more

[@magicianGOD]

He will not die in closet

[@Johan-rm6ec]

Only one thing curious about, RTX 4060 ti 16gb will games which use more than 12gb memory be faster on the 4060 or not.

[@TheGameBench]

In regards to the AMD vulnerability... that's the problem with absolutists. If you don't pick a side, one will be chosen for you and you'll just make all of them mad. So, like you said, this is just an indicator that you were objective, because you irked the incessant fanboy's on both sides. Well done.

[@Braiam]

I sadly live in a country where it's too expensive to buy a good CPU with graphics while buying a good CPU and a mediocre GPU is cheaper.

[@Angel7black]

I mean… a mediocre GPU is still a lot better than intergrated graphics so i fail to see the issue here unless both are out your price range

[@_nom_]

​​@@Angel7black Considering a good VR experience requires a 4090 😓 3080 wasn't enough. Hence why I'm getting a 5090.

[@Adnyeus]

​@@_nom_No one asked

[@bobbastian760]

Welcome to the ironing board show, where we discuss ironing boards.

[@Michplay]

2:20 me too, i want to buy a convertable and i actually wanted to buy a rog flow x13, but there is a strix halo variant in the planning for next year so i think i wait for the AMD with RTX 4060 capable graphics in this APU variant

[@izziedevil]

3:57 If people come into work asking for this because they think it's a good deal, I'm blaming y'all.

[@Fanta700]

Seeing you in the video, your setup allows you to iron out some issues in the tech world 😂

[@vgtrombone]

Hang on, so AMD stopped producing the 6600 to make room for the 7400 and 7300, but now those are canceled? So the 3050, A750, and A380 will be the only decent sub-$200 cards on the market.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

AMD did not stop making 6600 to make room for 7300/7400. 6600 is being replaced entirely by 7600. part of the issue is AIB. for AIB anything below $300 is bloodbath zone for them.

[@Supernova094]

I personally went for 13700k recently other than 7800x3D as its much cheaper in my country and a mobo with similar specs is also expensive here almost 100-120 $ more. was using manual voltage , tdp limits on my old cpu and will be doing same on this one and shouldnt have any problems.

[@vinnynaps4763]

Is that the bathroom or a laundry room lol

[@bushi1147]

Both

[@mukkah]

11:45 AMtel fanboy* lol Content is always much appreciated, team

[@rodrigofilho1996]

Steam Survey says AMD has 32% of CPUs and 15% af GPUs

[@Utkarsh_1508]

I think mediatek is also going to enter windows on arm. And the developer kit for Qualcomm x elite is still not shipped (a great reason behind such slow integration of it compared to m series chips)

[@arenzricodexd4409]

it have something to do with MS and Qualcomm deal ending where Qualcomm will be the sole MS partner for windows on ARM. now any ARM soc maker can enter the market.

[@vpun215]

man i love eating breakfast at 7:32 pm

[@johnpp21]

so its like the gtx 970

[@Angel7black]

Sorta but not really, pretty sure the 970 was supposed to have 25 percent more vram, not faster ram. I mean it was only 1 gb of vram less but when you only have 4gb of vram and go down to 3… bleh. Id way rather take slightly slower vram

[@Johan-rm6ec]

@@Angel7blackAcually it was 512mb slow memory not 1gb. I know i still use one.

[@IssacSir]

I would really love to see a video going in depth into the new desktop cpus with integrated graphics vs with older gpu like the 900 series or 10 series (1660ti, 1070 ...) or even rtx 20 series. How far along are we now with the top end integrated graphics?

[@ralakus8784]

I kinda wish AMD would release lower end, low power dedicated GPUs since they could be used for putting new life in an older computer with poor GPU performance but good CPU performance or for low power home servers for video transcoding or other light tasks that require a GPU. I know these use cases are really niche in today's market but it would still be nice to be able to pick up a power efficient half height $80 GPU that doesn't require external power and just plop it into a working system.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

problem is price. AMD can release it but AIB in general did not want to sell anything less than $150 let alone something like $80. it is one of the reason why GTX1630 end up having the price of $150 before. sub $300 market is bloodbath for AIB.

[@madness1931]

Honestly, I'm glad people are calling you an Intel/AMD shill. I wouldn't follow your content, if that wasn't the case. It help give you legitimacy, and show a spotlight on your bias (everyone has them).

[@jibodagrey6500]

10:26 translation: "i want everything dumbed down and i want all my features and choices stripped away and i want others to be forced to 'jailbreak' their device if they want any control over or functionality from their hardware."

[@systemBuilder]

So we have established that "Mercury Research" will produce research reports based on payments from Intel, saying anything that Intel wants to say ...

[@xeenks6115]

I've been thinking of getting a 4070 and a 14th-gen Intel CPU for months, but after watching recent UFD Tech videos, maybe I should reevaluate my life decisions

[@davidhines7592]

i heard the gddr6x was caused by a bad batch of silicon at one major maker of chips and there is now more order backlog than production can cater for.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

there is only one maker for GDDR6X: micron.

[@4777512]

idk, Bazzite seems pretty easy to install for a Steam OS Look a like, on other note, probably is up to the companies that make the Steam-like PCs to provide proper drivers for linux, hopefully some day is as easy as you just get your rufus usb and an ethernet cable and wait for 20 min, also support for nvidia would be nice.

[@tanixqued]

Aint no way tight schedule got him shooting while shittin

[@rpanchelli]

oh great mediatek and AI? what could go wrong? The drivers are gonna be solid, right?... Right?

[@Waliptech]

Dude are you sitting in your bathroom

[@atnfn]

Sure looks like he is sitting on the toilet.

[@Angel7black]

@@atnfnhes just like me for real

[@Waliptech]

Real Nice

[@jacobew2000]

Ok I understand the supply issues, but let's be real. No high end video card should have less than 16gb ram

[@gruphius]

"They locked him in a closet"? Nah, he has food (presumably), he has water (also presumably) and he has a Steam Deck. He's fine.

[@Adventuring_Korok]

Why is nobody talking about the legion go, everything is steam deck here, rog ally there. The legion is the only innovative gaming handheld since the steam deck launch in 2022!

[@Klooney9mm]

Bought one recently. No idea how people manage as well on the 7" screens. I also use it like windows tablet with Bluetooth mouse and keyboard and its perfect when docked on a dongle to a monitor. I bought it over everything else since I use it as my 2nd PC far more than just games.

[@John-Wolfe]

Most of those intel chips are likely business bulk desktops and OEM builds.

[@pacspecific]

NVIDIA 5070 set to have GDDR6 memory clocked at the same to compete AMD, same cuda cores DLSS 4.0 Frame Gen 6000 or les a 220WTDP and that's about it higher boosts clocks FOR $599 *Exciting* and 12GB VRAM

[@CraigTinson2015]

first time I've tried to follow the deals link? I had to disable *both* my ublock.. *and* my pihole trackers... thats not ideal guys!

[@jessefisher1809]

So is nvidia overclocking the snot out of that gddr6 to make it closer to gddr6x?

[@skeleton_craftGaming]

I'm upset, it has nothing to do with anything you said but I am upset. Upset mark my words.

[@Jasontyo]

What would an AM5 R3 look like? 4 cores?

[@stealthis]

AMD has always been trying to claw their way back with comparable features. I think their generic frame creation technology makes them more attractive now, you can have double the frame rate of a comparable Nvidia chip. Sure, the frames are not real but the higher your initial frame rate is, the less you will notice all the blended ones

[@monchiabbad]

Well if both Intel and and are supposedly supporting you, congratulations you're rich. 😂

[@awaiswasi354]

intel's oxidized shills have lost their mind

[@damianlewandowski6]

how many replacement for windows you need there is Mc os,Linux, android

[@EditLoaf]

i was so looking foward to 7400 and 7300 mann

[@thecomputerman78]

I think you're getting paid by whoever owns the IBM Cyrix CPU lol😂

[@Wunnabeanbag]

When steam os comes out… please may you try it on Asus flow z13 ( and maybe every aya neo/gpd handheld you have?).

[@llyttine]

I'm actually seeing a lot of schools switching to ryzen powered laptop so that's cool

[@pandorin2348]

I waited for the 3000 series and couldn’t get one because of scalpers, then i waited for the 4000series but its not worth it to me, now i guess ill wait for the 5000series

[@h.1699]

that pocket4 looks interesting, but i'd be interested even more without the ai marketing bs.

[@porter6484]

just get Bazzite almost the same has steam os minimal setup has well

[@cael_1303]

They really are trying to have 70 variants of the 4070.

[@mrrexy4151]

Are you sitting on toilet seat???

[@Syberz2]

Is that 12th gen intel safe from the defects?

[@oimazzo2537]

I am an AMD enjoyer for the most part and yep, not fixing a vulnerability in very relevant cpu you sold it's a goddamn shame. Amd really cannot avoid 1 pr disaster a week

[@wboyd33]

Hey Brett, you should grunt a few times during your videos, so everyone talking about you being in a bathroom can make more comments about you being in a bathroom!