The Arm Of The LORD Is Not A Different Person Beside Himself & Neither Is The "Word" Of John 1:1

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Shattering False Foundations

Shattering False Foundations

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Jesus Christ is the arm of the Father (Yahweh) revealed, not another person beside Him in the beginning!
The Word (Logos) of John 1 is not a different person beside the Father in the beginning before the worlds were created. The Word (Logos) is referring to the thoughts and intents of God's heart (the divine expression/foreordained plan). God's plan and everything in His heart was with Him in the beginning but not as a different person beside Him. Eternal life was with Him, but not as a different person beside Him as we read in 1 John 1:1-2. In this video we will learn about Yahweh's arm (power) and how this sheds more light on the Logos of John 1.
Wisdom, love, life, glory, and power are all written as being with God in that they belong to Him and pertain to Him. These are all contained in the Logos as His divine expression (thoughts and intents of His heart). But God is wisdom, love, life, glory, and power. To better understand this, we can see how the words we speak are a part of us (they are with us) in that they dwell in our heart. But they also reveal who we are (Matthew 12:34; Proverbs 23:7). Jesus Christ is the Logos made flesh; everything in God's heart expressed (His love, power, glory, life, wisdom, etc...)
Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God, was foreordained before the foundation of the world. He was the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. Yahweh God made the worlds through His foreordained plan by speaking forth His word (the thoughts and intents of His heart). This is how He created all things in and through the Son (the plan of the incarnation), not through another person in the beginning. Jesus was the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world in His heart/plan. God put that foreordained plan into action (the Logos was made flesh) in the fullness of time. God (the Logos) was manifest in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16) on a particular day. Eternal life that was with the Father was manifested (God's heart/plan - Logos expressed). The Son of God wasn't made flesh! The Word that was Yahweh God was made flesh and dwelt among us as the only begotten Son of God, the man Christ Jesus.
By turning our attention to the Old Testament we can look at some passages in Isaiah about the arm of the LORD (Yahweh) that reveal some very powerful truths to help shed even more light on the Logos of John 1, helping us to see Jesus Christ as the singular Person of God incarnate as our Saviour. By comparing Old Testament Scriptures such as Isaiah 40:3-5, 10-11; 42:8-9; 59:16; 52:10; 53:1-2; 63:5 along with Jeremiah 10:12; 27:5; & 32:17 with New Testament Scriptures such as Luke 3:4-6; John 12:37-38; and Romans 1:16; 10:16, we can receive powerful Revelation regarding the identity of Jesus Christ being Yahweh (the Father) incarnate, not an eternal Son incarnate. Jesus Christ is the arm (power) of Yahweh (the Father), His power to save. He is not a different eternal person from the Father. Jesus Christ is the arm of Yahweh revealed, the Father's very arm; His power to save manifested through His incarnation in the flesh. 1 Corinthians 1:24 tells us that Jesus Christ is the wisdom of Yahweh and the power of Yahweh (manifest in the flesh). The Word (Logos) that was God was made flesh and dwelt among us. Jesus Christ is the divine expression of wisdom, power, and love revealed. All of this agrees together with John 1 in light of the incarnation.

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@an_nie_dyc1386
@an_nie_dyc1386 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your study. I came to the same conclusions by researching the divinity of Jesus after two years of meeting with JW. (To convince them of Jesus being God but not understanding the concept myself. The deep study helped me to see that when I see Jesus I see the Father in person)
@ShatteringFalseFoundations
@ShatteringFalseFoundations 10 ай бұрын
Amen and praise the Lord! That's great that God spoke to you and revealed these things to you through His Word when you were in deep study. Yes, Jesus Christ is the express image of the Father's Person (essence/substance). And like you said in your other comment, all the fullness of the Godhead (deity) dwells in Him! God bless you in your continued studies!
@an_nie_dyc1386
@an_nie_dyc1386 10 ай бұрын
@@ShatteringFalseFoundations o thank you so much!
@korbital
@korbital 10 ай бұрын
GOD OUR Lord Jesus bless u always. Thank you brother.
@ShatteringFalseFoundations
@ShatteringFalseFoundations 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate it! God bless you and peace to you!
@stever3119
@stever3119 10 ай бұрын
I have been taught all the way back to the beginning. . "Do not eat from this tree" And Satan with his curse. . "You surely will not die, but you will become like God knowing good from evil" All of us born in this world of flesh, have learned good and evil if we have lived to an age of accountability. . We have become intimately aware of it. . And if Satan was the author of a plan against God. . And Satan cannot win. .how does God win while keeping all promises given, while at the same time blessing through Satan's curse? To picture God in how I've been walked it. . Our ancestors before could use abstract things to perceive it. Such as the trinity doctrine as an instance. . But those of us living now where the prophecy has been fulfilled in Daniel. . "And knowledge shall increase". . We're able to see whom and what God is, in our own physical world. Manifesting what it is like (Satan's curse). . Satan works by counterfeit. . But the greatness of God means that if one is able to see a counterfeit, then by default, then can better understand the opposite of that counterfeit. . Jesus spoke about the "body". . And in fact, in the human body and its systems one can indeed see God. . But something even greater than that is here now. . If i write the code for a video game, i make its parameters. . I make its laws. I code how the game plays and interacts. . And I've written the code already in order that the game plays, meaning before the game ever started to run and someone play it, the ending is already known. . How can what someone creates in the world show God? One writes the code for a game. . And then they begin playing it. . It was their mind that conceived it, gave birth to what the game became. . And one begins playing the game, making of themselves an avatar. . When the avatar is speaking to others in the game. . Is the avatar at that time just an avatar? Or is it the one who is playing the game because it is his thoughts controlling the avatar? His words? Likewise in this fallen state. . Mankind can see a counterfeit of what God is. . Us making a video game with our own hands. . Our own thoughts. . Our own desires. . And playing that video game as though we are in first person alive in it. . Interacting. . But because we can build that. . We know that God built it first. . How i can conceive whom God is. What Jesus is. What the holy spirit is. . Is being able to recognize even in our own world, we are given revelation of what it is like. . So that no one. . Even those who only walk in the world. . Can claim ignorance on the day of his coming. . It was shown to us. . Everywhere. .
@goodfruittree
@goodfruittree 10 ай бұрын
I was having a discussion with someone which we both agree God is one person...however, she states that God is IN his only begotten son. Whereas, some believe God BECAME a man... If God became a man, does that contradict with Numbers when its says God is not a man that he should lie nor the son of man that he should repent? Is there a difference to God IN his only begotten son VS God BECAME a man?
@ShatteringFalseFoundations
@ShatteringFalseFoundations 10 ай бұрын
Hey! That's a great question and a really important one to answer correctly because of how it shapes our view of Jesus Christ and His identity. It sounds like this woman you were communicating with is a Unitarian. She believes in one God (one Person) but she denies that Jesus Christ is actually God's Person incarnate. In other words, she denies the deity of Jesus Christ. She believes that God only dwelt in the man Christ Jesus and she would probably view Jesus Christ as a created person. There is a major difference between God just filling a man He creates with His Spirit (dwelling in Him in that way) and God Himself actually becoming a man by uniting humanity to His very Person through the incarnation. If you watch this entire series, I have presented how the Word of God is clear in stating that God became a man through the incarnation, while remaining the eternal, omnipresent, invisible Spirit outside of His incarnation in the flesh as a man. So the one singular Person of God is both Father and Son at the same time because of the incarnation. God never ceased being the eternal, invisible, omnipresent Spirit transcendent to His incarnation in the flesh. There are some things in Scripture that we can believe without it being a salvation issue. But how this woman is viewing Jesus is a salvation issue. To deny the deity of Jesus Christ and not acknowledge that Jesus is God incarnate is to believe in "another Jesus" that the apostle Paul warned about. We must confess that Jesus is our Lord and our God in order to be saved. 2 Corinthians 11:3-4 KJVS But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. [4] For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. This woman you spoke with would also be going against the words of Jesus regarding acknowledging that He is the I Am (Yahweh Himself). Jesus says that if we don't believe He is God (I Am) we will die in our sins. And I believe this is all connected with getting baptized in the name of Jesus while also having faith in Jesus as the one God incarnate. John 8:19,21-25 KJVS Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. [21] Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come. [22] Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come. [23] And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. [24] I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. [25] Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. John 8:57-58 KJVS Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? [58] Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Now to answer your question regarding that Scripture in Numbers: Numbers 23:19 KJVS God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? Yahweh God is an invisible Spirit. He is eternal, without beginning or ending. This statement in Numbers is written long before the incarnation took place. God as to His very essence is not a man. This is all very true and all the Jews understood this. However, on a particular day, a child was born of a virgin and that child had no earthly father. That child was of the seed of David according to the flesh, but declared to be the Son of God with power according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead (Romans 1:3-4). This child was to be called the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, Immanuel (God with us). This child is the great God of heaven, the Creator, incarnate as our Saviour. God is not a man because He is an eternal Spirit. You and I are human beings because we were born as human beings. God didn't have a beginning and so God is not a man. However, what He did on a particular day in the fulness of time by becoming a man and taking upon Himself the form of a servant, does not negate the fact that God as to His very essence is not a man. God became a man in time, He wasn't a man in the beginning even though it was in His plan all along and He created the worlds by and through that plan. Isaiah 9:6 KJVS For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. One should also consider the context of that passage in Numbers and recognize that it is actually Baalam communicating to Balak concerning what the LORD had said to him. In other words, God had spoken what He had spoken, and that was the end of the discussion. Balaam was told to bless the Israelites, and He did. Now that He had blessed them, and because of that God had blessed them, there was no reversing the blessing. God wouldn't change His mind. So understanding this, we can understand that Balaam's point was not making a statement against God being able to incarnate in the flesh but to turn our attention to the fact that God is not like men in that He never lies and has no need of changing His mind. So the context helps us to understand that God is not like fallen men. But this does not mean that God could not or would not ever become a man, but only forbids that God should ever become like fallen men, being untrustworthy, lying, or failing to keep His word. Do you see how the passage of Scripture isn't actually about saying that God could never become a man, but that God is not like fallen men that he should lie or need to change His mind. Context is important plus we need to remember that there are a plethora of Scriptures that declare Jesus to be the great God of heaven incarnate as our Saviour.
@sumthinfresh
@sumthinfresh 10 ай бұрын
The Father is not the Son. Jesus is the exact image, person, hypostasis of the Father-Hebrews 1:3. God is the Father of Glory and Christ the Son is that Glory. All the fullness (Glory) of the Godhead(Deity) dwelt bodily in Christ- Col 2:9. The Spirit of God (the Father) fertilized an egg in Mary by His divine power and the two, Deity and flesh became 1. Jesus is the manifestation of God in the flesh, John1 & 1 Timothy 3:16, but He is not the Father, He is the same Hypostasis as the Father. Jesus is the Son of God by His Father's Spirit and the Son of Man by way of Him being born of woman. Jesus is the First and Last at the same time. When we look at Jesus we can't see the difference between Him and the Father. Jesus is God as a man.
@ShatteringFalseFoundations
@ShatteringFalseFoundations 10 ай бұрын
Hey Josh, judging from your previous comments on other videos, I'm sure I am understanding the points you made and I'm sure we are in agreement. I would like to add a few things to what you said to bring greater clarity for the sake of preventing confusion with people reading this. It is true there is a distinction between Father and Son and so it is incorrect to say that the Son is the Father and the Father is the Son. The distinction between Father and Son is a distinction between manner's of existence. The Father is omnipresent Spirit while the Son is a human being, albeit God incarnate. So the distinction between Father and Son is not a distinction between two different eternal Persons. The distinction is incarnational. So from that perspective you are correct in saying that the Father is not the Son because there is a distinction. However, from a "personal identity" perspective, the Son is the Father's Person (hypostasis-essence or substance) incarnate and so the Son is the Father (Yahweh) with regards to personal identity. There is only one God (Yahweh). That God is our father. If Jesus is that God incarnate then Jesus is our father from a "personal identity" perspective. As to his deity, Jesus Christ is God the Father. Isaiah 9:6 clearly calls him the everlasting father. Isaiah 9:6 KJVS For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. So for this reason, I believe we can call Jesus the everlasting father, just like we can call Him our Lord and our God. He did not leave us comfortless (fatherless), but He came to us through the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit. But with all that being said, I am in agreement with what you said in that the terms "Father" and "Son" are relational terms that took on a new significance after God's incarnation in Mary. Although Jesus' deity was the deity of the Father, we cannot simply replace the term "Son" with "Father," because the term "Father" is used of the Spirit alone, while Son is used of that Spirit made flesh. The Father is God beyond flesh, and the Son is that same God in flesh. "Father" is the title used by Jesus for God, because it was God who fathered Jesus' human existence. Jesus did not beget Himself, but was begotten of the Father, and therefore He is spoken of as being distinct from the Father; not in deity, but as it pertains to His assumption of humanity. It is because of the addition of humanity to God's existence as Spirit, that we cannot say that the Father and the Son are the same. The deity of the Father is in the Son, but the Son is a human being, and the Father, who is Spirit only, is not. So I think with this we are in agreement.
@sumthinfresh
@sumthinfresh 10 ай бұрын
@@ShatteringFalseFoundations I agree. There is no distinction between the Father and the Son as it pertains to Deity. All the Father is, was, and will ever be is in the Son. All the "stuff" that makes God, God is what Christ is, was, and shall be. Jesus referred to Himself as the I Am because He was of the same His Father is, Spirit. Jesus' will and the will of the Father were identical because of this. Yet Jesus found Himself in human flesh so He was able to be tempted and be the Captain of our salvation. He had His own mind and will yet they were the same of the Father. I think we are in agreement and I appreciate you clarifying because I wouldn't want to be on your channel causing division.Some who believe in the oneness of God make no distinction between the Father and the Son at the risk of sounding trinitarian. The only distinction between them is the flesh similar to the account of Joseph and Pharaoh the only distinction was the throne.
@sumthinfresh
@sumthinfresh 10 ай бұрын
@@ShatteringFalseFoundations I can refrain from commenting if you prefer. I only do so because having two accounts of saying the same thing can help people understand sometimes. You do a great job of responding to folks comments, questions and otherwise
@jamesmoran7511
@jamesmoran7511 10 ай бұрын
Pretty sure there is no god. I'm at my end. I'll know soon. I won't be able to let you know what i learn
@ShatteringFalseFoundations
@ShatteringFalseFoundations 10 ай бұрын
I can testify that there is a God as I have been born again and set free from bondage to sin through His grace and been filled with his Holy Spirit. True freedom is only found in Jesus Christ. You can know Him as well and be healed/freed from whatever it is you're going through. The gospel is the power of God unto salvation to all who believe (respond in faith). Jesus Christ is the great God and your Saviour. He is there for you and Has accomplished all that is required for your freedom. All He is wanting from you is your faith to receive all that He has done for you. Call upon Him, turn from your sins, and allow Him to heal you. He loves you and knows what you're going through. Reach out to Him. I'd like to discuss these things in greater detail with you if you are open to it. Praying for you. John 8:32 KJVS And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. Acts 2:38 KJVS Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
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