The AWFUL World of Sonic Remakes

[@XPool]

13:13 Ay, I wanna clarify rq: I said “this was my first Sonic game and it quickly grew to be one of my favorites in the series” just after talking about Sonic Colors Ultimate. However, what I meant to say was that the ORIGINAL Sonic Colors was my first Sonic game, and THAT grew to be one of my favorites. It being the first Sonic game I played assisted in how much Ultimate burned me. I don’t know how I was able to screw up in the writing that badly, but that’s on me. Sorry for probably making some of you feel old. I’m not *that* young.

[@hellscream4354]

I honestly thought that it was very obvious you meant that. My brain didnt even consider the other possibility lol

[@TheAndy71brown]

hater

[@MooMooVallesAndFriends]

Btw another thing that might bother about sonic colors ultimate is that because they couldn’t use the original engine from the Wii version they used a new one and….. look how that turned out

[@AGU_YT]

@@TheAndy71brown EXACTLY

[@AGU_YT]

@@MooMooVallesAndFriends hater 2

[@BedBuggy]

Can't wait for Gens Ultimate 😀

[@sizzleboz]

There only doing it with games that are only on one or oldbconsole

[@Neoniq41]

No, pls don't let them ruin the goat

[@rubinmuttoriginal7444]

​@@Neoniq41 Unleashed Ultimate 💀

[@LannyLeArtist]

Thought that said dreams ultimate and i got sonic dreams collection flashbacks

[@LannyLeArtist]

@@rubinmuttoriginal7444SOUNDS HORRIBLE

[@superhedgehog6447]

Sheesh, that one cutscene you showed off where Amy is just standing completely still is just creepy asf. I get it wasn't optimized for wide-screen, but still.

[@Ramble_79]

i still laugh when i remember the shadow release for p-06 was released the same day as colours ultimate

[@Michael_Afton40]

Remakes= re-done from scratch Remasters= same game on another engine

[@alptugraakan7490]

So heroes remake will be a remaster

[@dravenmartinez6311]

​@alptugraakan7490 we dont know yet it could be a full on remake

[@UltraSonicHero]

To be honest over the following years, SEGA hasn't been on top of their game when it comes to developing remasters. I'm hoping that they can come back from their past flaws and be a lot more open-minded. At the moment Sonic Frontiers has made a great comeback for the franchise and I cannot wait to see what the future holds for the team.

[@lpfan4491]

I find it very telling how Sonic Adventure 2 on the GC is the best "improved" 3D sonic rerelease ever made because it is moreso an enhanced port than a remaster like SADX or Colors Ultimate. And the kicker is that it still has stuff broken nearly everywhere. It has over 400 diffrences to the DC original and a good amount of them are just stuff that worked correctly in SA2 and does not work correctly in SA2B(though tbf, there are also improvements and bugfixes that SA2B did where it is very obvious that SA2 was rushed out the door to finally kill off the Dreamcast)

[@haydenboggs3271]

I actually really wanna get a copy of Sonic Origins Plus when it comes out, it looks like a pretty big improvement while also having tons of new features like Amy and having the digital deluxe content available without extra charges, not to mention I kinda wanna try out some of the Game Gear titles

[@SonicTheCutehog]

Sega Try to Make a Good Remaster Challenge (Impossible)

[@SonicTheCutehog]

@AaryanNeeraj The game's not out yet

[@SonicTheCutehog]

@AaryanNeeraj People said that about Colors Ultimate and look what happened

[@SegaMama91]

I didn’t have a choice back then, because I only had a ps3 and 2 around the time. So.. Sadly Adventure Digital was my first version of Sonic Adventure I owned. But I still loved it cuz I was so little back then. I didn’t care about how glitchy it was, just like how I loved playing 06. It was Sonic.. That’s all 12 year old me cared about 💙

[@alecopedia5744]

This is my first time watching you and I gotta say I absolutely love your style of videos, I can also tell that you took a lot of influence from Scott The Woz which is probably another reason why I like you.

[@purrfectisepic]

Your content has a similar feel to Scott the Woz, with its own spin, which I enjoy a lot. The callbacks to older jokes are also smart, like calling the game S**** C***** U*******

[@sonicthescrewdriver]

1:02 "Where the base game is still intact, but is heavily modified to a higher standad" he says while footage of Colours Ultimate plays. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@QuentacosIsMe]

You’re really in your element rn. Keep it up!

[@ChilliusVGM]

16:15 The reason why the Origins recordings sound so low quality is because they're recorded off of a real SEGA Mega Drive, which earlier models of had a low pass filter and the ladder effect (a noise caused by the DAC. The lack of high end and the weird aliasing makes them sound lower quality, but they're really meant to sound like that! 17:54, they actually are the prototype songs! They're not the same ones as present in the 11/03/93 build but instead they're actually from an earlier build of the game, compared data between 11/03 and the recordings we have of these songs, as well as several pieces of info regarding the "soundbank" and how there's 3 versions of the game, one of which lines up with Origins, means that they likely have this build lying around and used it for Origins. Their similarity to the S&KC versions is likely because they were also transcribed from this version. Your immediate afterwards hint at the idea of it being a theory is more confirmed by this!

[@ZonicMirage]

The Sonic 3 sample makes me think they either didn't have the headphone volume up high enough, or maybe the machine needed new capacitors. Also Sonic 1's sample makes me think they may have used its mono hookup. At least they didn't use either super early models or the final MD1 revision, where audio's incredibly messed up. Granted, modding the earliest Mega Drives would fix the over-driven preamp's distortion/clipping and give higher quality.

[@Modelman4950]

As a sonic fan i like to see others perspective on this RAD hedgehog, sometimes what they say about him make me really angry but its there opinions. This one caught my eye not just cause its sonic but it explains things i didn't know about him and his company, THE REMAKES, some bad some good but i dont care about the visuals, i care about gameplay and sonic. The way you explained it really made me realize how much the remakes really have to be like the original games

[@_SparkHere]

Fun Fact: Sonic Genesis was developed by Dimps in the engine that powered Advance 1, 2, and 3. It (The engine) wasn't meant to emulate the Genesis physics.

[@pacmanfan6451]

It was not. No Advance game controls or sounds like that. They were too busy with the Rush spinoffs to hand over the Advance engine to anyone. It's a 2005 J2ME-based mobile port re-ported to GBA by an otherwise unknown dev team (whether it be internal or external) that Sega gave only a few months to develop and release alongside Sonic 06, and on the same day. There's a reason why the Genesis subtitle was slapped onto it. It's also why the game uses a MIDI sound engine that lags the entire game unless all sound is turned off.

[@randomcommentog]

Bro forgot my favorite remake Sonic Jam on the Gamecom

[@Jay_XP]

Sonic 3D Blast Ultimate is my favorite Sonic Remake... Oh wait.

[@Itz_Kwame]

Every comments section I go I see this guy

[@EggFighterXB-]

Director's cut? Saturn?

[@EggFighterXB-]

Do those 2 count as 3D Blast Ultimate?

[@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung]

@@Itz_Kwame "I see this guy everywhere!" - a guy who has also been everywhere to see him there.

[@strawb2128]

First video I've seen from you. I know this fanbase struggles with criticism for some reason, so it's refreshing to find a Sonic fan that isn't terrified of saying it how it is. Keep up the great work!

[@Potatoboii2]

Some ports that I think are worth mentioning are the Sega Vintage Collection ports on Xbox360 and Ps3, they're pretty faithful to the original, you can change the controls freely, (Yes you can use L1 to jump, thank god) sonic 2 has an online multiplayer which is way too fun, along with a fully customiseable aspect ratio, trophy support and a save feature! I love the ports, it's how I beat sonic 1 for the first time, and I still play them every so often.

[@MusuemBucket]

The emerald coast glitch is actually possible in the Dreamcast version, just harder to do

[@OOFMAJOR]

8:31 Scott the Woz moment

[@chain_links]

8:10-9:06 this whole portion feels like something out of a Scott the Woz video

[@dragonick2947]

Some fans have ported the mobile ports of Sonic 1 and 2 to PC, as Sonic 1 Forever and Sonic 2 Absolute. I recommend giving those a try if you haven't :D

[@-alex-pvp-]

15:42 they surprisingly went back and fixed this, better late than never?

[@wayway2010]

Sonicxshadow gen might be good

[@Safalmao]

the only good sonic remaster/remake, is origins, and even that isn't perfect.

[@Emberson-9000]

There is another positive to SADX. The Chao Garden and trading between SADX and SA2B. If you want a neutral chao, SADX is the place to go. It gives you access to more animals more often too if you dont want to use chaos drives or Tiny Chao Garden fruits, which both have their downsides compared to animals many upsides.

[@acgon]

I didn't have any problem with Colors Ultimate on PS4

[@GamingOverload]

Going from DC to Gamecube as a kid, Adventure 2 Battle was better to me specifically for the multiplayer

[@sw4g017]

I like sonic origins (plus) but I have to admit it is flawed

[@Kan-b5c]

The loop in the hd remaster of sa1 killed me once the slippery controls took its course and derailed poor sonic

[@stevenshockley4237]

This is the first video ive seen of you and i love it. You kept me interested and made me laugh multiple times. Im literally downloading SA2's prototype as i heard the "or just emulate it"

[@SaddieMoon]

4:05 What do you mean we don’t deserve the game? Is it because it’s that bad? And tbh, while SA1 Digital is a bad port, it’s not a bad game. I still enjoyed it just fine.

[@retrodeveloper9156]

Sonic 1 Genesis (GBA) seems like was made in like 1 month, trying to port the Java Mobile version (that is pretty good for what Java cellphones can do) but the port pratically didn't had any optimization and the port of the midi music to the GBA audio format was made with the @SS from the developer of the port

[@elimBaz]

For being 5 bucks on the Ps3 and (i'm not sure) the 360 store, Adventure 1 Digital isn't anything to complain

[@mrpiccionedivino5598]

It's still a port of a port of a game from 1999 that doesn't even add widescreen.

[@ducknut300]

@@mrpiccionedivino5598So? It’s still awesome.

[@mrpiccionedivino5598]

@@ducknut300 so? It's still a barebones port that has a whole community that restored the dreamcast version graphics.

[@u-pop4536]

I feel SADX was just made just to put Yuji Naka as the games director Even though i believe Izuka was behind the Original SA1

[@coolness1768]

They called it "Directors Cut" for a reason.

[@pixelatedluisyt]

13:00 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH WHY DID YOU LEAVE IT LIKE THIS aaAAAHHHH THE COLORS ARE EVERYWHERRREEE MY LIFE IS AGONNYYY

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

1:24 Well yeah, Kenjiro Morimoto was the original director for Sonic Adventure before he got fired and was replaced by Takashi Iizuka. That’s why it’s a director’s cut, it’s the original director’s vision. Haven’t you heard about the Snyder Cut.

[@Glitchizz_real]

Been waiting for more SonicTubers to cover this!

[@SPIDERKN1GHT0327]

9:17 I guess bro forgot that the sun was in space I guess🤷🤷

[@OrangeAintEvenAColor]

Hopefully, they dont screw up Sonic x shadow generations 🙏

[@SuspiciousCat13]

The Kool-Aid lighter fluid joke made me laugh watching to hard

[@makhaiwilbert2716]

If you didn't sonic team just released a survey on what they need to prove and which remasters and remakes to do and they even a question where if your confident that they could make sa3.But the survey is down for now.Put a heart if you noticed

[@suprxmefire9497]

I’m actually looking forward to buying origins plus for the switch and sonic superstars of course. Hopefully in the plus version they fixed these issues

[@andyavisand]

Aparently SEGA is still trying to get the og music from S3&K, but MJ's representatives are asking toooo much

[@kenishachisholm5692]

5:21i like how he called sonic adventure the older brother of sonic adventure 2 lol

[@johncruelty20]

actually a fire video, new youtuber discovered

[@ducknut300]

Same goes for Sonic Adventure 2 battle, I beat that one on GCN.

[@acolmeiafelizDT]

13:00 sonic colors if it was literally on the name

[@TheBLUEM64]

This video only made me want to pirate more

[@LilyReal]

Now we need a vid on the Sonic Riders games 😈

[@TouchcreatorYT]

the reason the lighting is weird in sonic colors ultimate is because they used a different engine than the original game, the new engine is Godot which does have some lighting issues

[@zy_8008]

Sonic Colors Ultimate on the switch? No. Sonic Colors: Epilepsy edition

[@Polar-Blaster]

I know that this video is almost a year old already, but I think ik MJ wasn’t credited for Sonic 3’s music. I believe it was because of the genesis and he said if the music couldn’t sound clear he didn’t want to be credited. correct me I’m wrong.

[@Neoniq41]

Bro, these are "remasters" NOT remakes lmao. Remasters are more or less ports of old games with graphical updates and sometimes gameplay additions. Remakes are COMPLETELY different games all together, like FF7 remake.

[@XPool]

0:46

[@Neoniq41]

@@XPool So if you seem to know the difference between these two why even mention remakes in the video as well as in the title in the first place? That's like calling pizzas burritos.

[@gaylootomatoe]

@@Neoniq41 🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@Safalmao]

@@gaylootomatoe you're corny buddy

[@piranhalettuce]

@@Safalmao Both of you guys are corny

[@alescano3504]

Meanwhile the fan ports, remakes and remasters

[@_MDR4]

I've had my release of Sonic Color Ulitmate on the switch and play station 4 it doesn't bug like at all

[@TrueHDR]

None of the games in the thumbnail are a remake

[@alptugraakan7490]

Ultimate is a remake

[@swr.nezumi]

Some of your humor reminds me of Scott the Woz and i love it

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Dreamcast Conversion is the real SADX for me. Same goes for all the mods I have for SA2 (which are bugfix mods).

[@SoranotRoxas]

Great video, I'm definitely subscribing 👍

[@midi_feline]

Haha, he said "s*undfont", laugh at him!!!1

[@haydenhowell9277]

If you want a sonic game remake done right then i suggest sonic triple trouble 16bit It is a fan made game but it does what sega doesn't do for these remakes

[@AlmandMulk]

Its kinda more of a reimagining than a remake tho

[@Tezdude9]

I agree with you on Sonic Origins. It's definitely overhated. At the time, it was my go to way to play the Genesis games despite the fact that better fan games existed like Sonic 1 Forever and Sonic 2 Absolute. Honestly, I just like having the option to retry special stages LOL! But the port of Sonic 3 was pretty bad. It's since been fixed and actually plays pretty good now, so Origins is still my preferred way to play these games. I think they also fixed the drop dash in Sonic 1 so you don't have to install mods now to make it work better. But that's no excuse for not having it right at launch.

[@turbobist2889]

Lets hope Sonic X Shadow Generations breaks the bad remake streak

[@ChipFanXO]

These aren't remakes there remasters

[@gaylootomatoe]

shut up he already said it in the video

[@alptugraakan7490]

Sonic genesis isnt even a remaster or remake its just an awful port

[@ChipFanXO]

@@alptugraakan7490 it's true it's true

[@xonact8855]

Actually, only Sonic Genesis and Sonic 3 on Origins are remakes. The rest are remasters

[@SquallyCoin5664]

Sonic Adventure DX Director’s Cut is the reason critics say Sonic had a rough transition into 3D. I compiled a list of review scores on Metacritic for each Sonic game, and the Sonic Adventure reviews or abhorrent. It seems reviews start from the year 2000 and onward, so no DC Sonic Adventure, so that only leaves reviews for SADDC. The critics are talking about it like it’s a port of the DC title. “A game that should’ve rested in peace with the good old Dreamcast.” - SpazioGames “A title revered for its looks in the years gone by both ages badly and succumbs to design logic issues... [Issue#65, p.105]” - X-ONE Magazine UK “Rather than begging the question of whether or not the Dreamcast title is still relevant, this port clearly indicates that it isn't.” - Thunderbolt Guys, you aren’t playing Sonic Adventure, you’re playing a significantly worse remake of the game with worse visuals, worse controls, and more bugs. Stop talking about it like it’s Sonic Adventure, and start talking about it as a poor remaster. Sonic Adventure is actually good, too bad Sega ruined the games reputation by putting out this junk.

[@brotbrotsen1100]

Perfectly possible that they simply didn't liked it, even without the bugs the core gameplay doesn't change. And if you don't like it to begin with you also won't like the DC version.

[@JonyPlayz1]

Interesting video. You have pretty good points

[@spinelandrodrigoandres8863]

Nice, omori music Anyways, *obligatory sonic 1 gba comment*

[@ducknut300]

What are you talking about? Sonic Adventure DX was awesome. You’re just mad that it was actually good, hell I beat it on steam and it was awesome.

[@user-ly1ko6be9t]

0:47 YSK Sonic Origins and the Android ports ARE complete remakes with a bunch of changes done to the game, it's just that most people who didn't grow up on the Genesis don't know the difference

[@turbobist2889]

Ironically, while Sega does a mixed job at making Sonic remakes, Sonic fans do a way better job. Sonic Triple Trouble 16 Bit is a beautiful genesis styled remake of a game gear glassic, p-06 takes one if the most infamous Sonic games and makes it cool, Sonic Advance Revamped is looking pretty neat, etc.

[@jackiexkh]

Personally, the thing that makes me not like Sonic Origins and made me not buy it (besides the price) is the lack of a life system. I've noticed Sega has removed lives from the Sonic series as of late. First with Forces, then Colors Ultimate, then Origins, and now Frontiers, with Superstars seeming to not have them either. Designing a game without a life system is fine, but when you remove it from an old game clearly designed with such a system in-mind with practically no option to re-enable it just feels really lame. Like sure, *technically* you can still play with lives in Origins, but the mode that you can do that in also arbitrarily makes you play in 4:3, even though the primary reason to play the Origins versions over the original Genesis versions is the widescreen, so at that point why even play in that mode at all? Especially when the other modern changes are still in classic mode, negating the whole point of it. So unless they fix this alongside Origins' other problems (which I KNOW they won't, this is Sega), I likely won't be getting Origins. I'll just stick with Sonic 1 Forever, Sonic 2 Absolute, and Sonic 3 AIR.

[@phorchybug3286]

Hey! The adventures are still pretty good!

[@thomasverslycken2563]

Even though i only played the steam version of DX i personally do like the game, even without any mods at all

[@Youknowjoe187]

I like the origins/S&K collection music. Also sonic 4 music And sonic 4 And origins

[@mincecraftredstone6196]

Colours ultimate for me is flawless with the exception of lag and I’m on SWITCH?

[@originalkingdomhearts]

I played every version of SA and omg the PC and steam versions are so baaaaad. The dreamcast is so much better.

[@flowersgoodsmel8996]

You forgot Sonic Jam!

[@veronicabermudez4802]

THERE ARE SONIC REMAKES???!!!?? 1111

[@NGO9000]

13:00 god damn sega was right. that sonic can colors

[@mincecraftredstone6196]

The cd drop dash in origins is good idk what u we’re talking about when saying cd had a bad dropdash

[@SpeedyBlur2000]

A good way to play the Christian Whitehead versions of Sonic 1, 2, and CD is to play them on PC through the decompiled versions. Also you have Sonic 3 AIR for Sonic 3, which is leagues better than the one in Origins.

[@Elliotskuse]

I cannot unsee amy Dead body

[@Sup_nw85]

Bro everytime i go into settings on the switch version of colors ultimate the game crash..... that's how bad the game is

[@coooooooooooooooorn]

Yeah that happens with me too

[@TherealXotwo]

november 14 2006 the curse

[@Dio-zr7ww]

Idk why but this video was super funny for me.

[@naderrtail6147]

Sonic Classic Collection for the DS anyone?

[@Faisalthefist]

Sonic colors ultimate is good

[@Faisalthefist]

I played every single world except the last world at launch and I encountered no glitches so just shut the hell up

[@ducknut300]

@@Faisalthefist People are hating on Sonic Adventure DX like it’s bad. I beat it on steam and it was good. I hope you don’t think the opposite.

[@FurryestX]

DX is the BEST of them, atleast its enjoyable

[@AdamSelvig]

Honestly I don’t think remastering games can do good unless done right colors ultimate was ok but needs real work

[@gabrielpitonidedeus4278]

I was thinking

[@hyper5925]

Man, you forgot about the Brazilian Sonic Blast remaster for the Master System (yes, this is a real thing that happened). Here in Brazil, the Master System was one of, if not the best selling console from it's time. And the only reason for that it's because it was cheap. And the Game Gear was a failure around here. So, TecToy, wich was Sega's distributor here, made a lot of ports of Game Gear Games to the Master System, and Sonic Blast was one of them. It was slower, uglier, but at least, it wasn't zoomed in as much as the Game Gear version. Funny enough, the only main Sonic 8-Bit game exclusive to the Game Gear was Sonic Triple Trouble, the best one.

[@Deltawarrior_]

at the time of this comment they fixed the roll jump lock for sonic 1 and 2

[@Gatorah]

Sonic adventure dx is literally like Halo CE Anniversary. Both are shitty “remakes” using newer models but with the original animations that make it look wrong.

[@PikachuGamerSMT]

DX and Ultimate aren’t remakes their remasters (bad remasters but still remasters

[@miilexthemii9353]

Funny thing ya mentioned sonic adventure digital because... It is the only way play the game.

[@drewdoesdubs]

sonic classic collection on ds.