The Baby Bust: Should We Worry About Plummeting Birthrates?

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Between 2010 and 2020, more than 70% of developed countries saw a decline in their fertility rates. In the United States, it’s estimated that we’ll have more deaths than births within 20 years. What’s going on? And is it time to worry?
Research suggests the biggest factor behind falling birthrates here in the U.S. is that people are choosing to get married later in life - and having fewer children as a result. Whether that’s a crisis depends on who you’re asking. Some observers think it’s just a matter of individual choice. Others, however, worry that people are having fewer children than they’d like because they’re squeezed by the high costs of things like housing and childcare.
What are the potential effects of this demographic shift? An aging population means fewer people in the workforce, potentially leading to lower levels of innovation. It also means fewer young people paying into programs like Social Security on which seniors rely. Are lower birthrates leading us towards a crisis? Or are we overreacting? Our new video explores the arguments.
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@blackscreenstories3704
@blackscreenstories3704 Жыл бұрын
...No one wants to read your lil fake manifesto weekly😂😂😂😂😂... but please keep making these... they're hilarious... No i'm not joking lots of people are laughing at you and you're unaware...😂😂😂
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa Жыл бұрын
the biggest problem that is not in this video is the worldwide birth rate is also decreasing. although developed countries can increase the population with immigration. when the population of South America decreases, migration to the United States will stop
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 Жыл бұрын
Channel reported for MISINFORMATION. You showed in THIS video you citing the EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE BIASED pro-natalist fascist AEI as your source for your OPINION about what constitutes a crisis or not. And on your channel is an ANTHRPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING (AGW) DENIAL video, denying a QUANTITATIVELY PROVEN MASSIVE CRISIS, where you show nothing but BRAINWASHED pro-fossil fuel addict pushers spouting their biased garbage opinion, but cite ZERO PEER REVIEWED CLIMATE SCIENCE PAPERS and YOU DO NOT INTERVIEW ANY OF THE THOUSANDS OF CLIMATE SCIENTISTS.
@deonambrose
@deonambrose Жыл бұрын
I love how billionaires and politicians are afraid of a failing birth rate.
@kelleemerson9510
@kelleemerson9510 Жыл бұрын
But they're not. They approve. This hoopla is as BS as the climate change scam. The world is getting trashed and those who can stop it are just passing the buck on to us. 100% drugs are killing a lot of people. Fixed that one didn't they.
@whitewhitewhite2446
@whitewhitewhite2446 Жыл бұрын
It should be a worry for everyone. Shame on you for being negligent about something that should be done about
@deonambrose
@deonambrose Жыл бұрын
@@whitewhitewhite2446 Well... Idk maybe if the cost of living wasn't so high people would have kids. But no. The U.S. runs on debt and people struggling. Bootlicking won't fix the problem.
@suptumberlumbertumberlumbe9305
@suptumberlumbertumberlumbe9305 10 ай бұрын
Bactorine
@whitewhitewhite2446
@whitewhitewhite2446 10 ай бұрын
@@deonambrose You are probably the same kind of person who also thinks teens and young adults still jumping inside a bounce house sometimes is okay too
@eugenefirebird8938
@eugenefirebird8938 Жыл бұрын
We don't need more people; we need less people. Too many people is the source of almost all problems. We all lived so much better when we had half as many people as now.
@whitneyanders5945
@whitneyanders5945 Жыл бұрын
I agree. How stupid are people to think more people is better for everyone and the planet. More people means quality of life is reduced, it means less space and habitat for animals and nature. It means more people fighting for finite resources and it means wages are driven down and we all have less earning power. It drives house prices up too.
@agees924
@agees924 Жыл бұрын
Agree. We have so many people we can’t even drive half the speed limit. It takes twice as long to get to work as it should because cities are so congested with people. There’s too many people for the amount of small homes we have. So many people is making the job market hyper competitive.
@myrnaa1077
@myrnaa1077 Жыл бұрын
All very smart points mentioned💕
@Leviathan762-zh4lq
@Leviathan762-zh4lq Жыл бұрын
No we need more people
@myrnaa1077
@myrnaa1077 Жыл бұрын
@@Leviathan762-zh4lq We shouldnt and we wont (thus good thing that we wont), as evidenced by the stats
@factsoverfiction7826
@factsoverfiction7826 Жыл бұрын
Well, that explains the US policies against birth control.
@blackscreenstories3704
@blackscreenstories3704 Жыл бұрын
@@tomac100 google it weirdo....Such bans are now in place in Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and South Dakota, and are expected soon in Mississippi, North Dakota, Utah and Wyoming. Bans in Idaho and Tennessee could follow in 30 days, and Texas shortly after that. ... Jesus christ you're in a bubble and it's shocking🤣🤣🤣
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 Жыл бұрын
F US policies against birth control. Government has no right to stop abortion or birth control.
@mastershake156
@mastershake156 10 ай бұрын
You mean state choice?
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 Жыл бұрын
Fewer workers in workforce? Then FORCE THE CEOS and LAWYERS who have already gotten BILLIONS of dollars to finally START EARNING all that money they stole from workers over the centuries, by forcing the ex-CEOs to do USEFUL WORK.
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 Жыл бұрын
So it means real estates prices should go down, not up.
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 Жыл бұрын
THIS! EXACTLY! OBVIOUSLY!
@MrPolandball
@MrPolandball Жыл бұрын
If you think real estate prices are solely controlled by birth rates, then I have a beach house to sell you in Arizona.
@kingrobotnik6950
@kingrobotnik6950 Жыл бұрын
@@MrPolandballI think they know that. It’s more about how people are taking this so serious but not putting stuff in place to handle it…
@factsoverfiction7826
@factsoverfiction7826 Жыл бұрын
Nope. Real estate builds wealth, especially in areas with jobs. That's why investors buy half of the single-family homes sold in the US.
@EviMlcak
@EviMlcak Жыл бұрын
They should go down, way down. Now people are living in tent cities. How sad.
@davidf6567
@davidf6567 Жыл бұрын
I had my daughter in 2017 and regret it I feel bad I brought a human life into this fucked up world, why would I want to bring more life into this messed up place that might end very soon anyway
@elite7329
@elite7329 Жыл бұрын
You're a bad person for not wanting your daughter
@shaunmckenzie5509
@shaunmckenzie5509 Жыл бұрын
​​@@elite7329ou're a moron for not understanding that you can love your child but think it was a bad idea to bring them into this world
@halmotley2924
@halmotley2924 Жыл бұрын
Are you a Malthusian?
@ezekieloruven
@ezekieloruven Жыл бұрын
​@@elite7329 what a disgusting and uncharitable way to interpret their statement. The irony of calling someone else a bad person by deliberately painting what they said was something they didn't. OP wants what is best for their daughter. The world isn't getting better, and they regret putting their child into this horrible circumstance. That doesn't imply anything about whether they wanted children.
@joemahony4198
@joemahony4198 Жыл бұрын
If the world ends all problems are resolved, the problem is if the world does not end. Just as death ends all an individuals problems.
@fuckTrump-v7j
@fuckTrump-v7j Жыл бұрын
If billionaires are terrified, you know it's a great thing.
@garyoakham9723
@garyoakham9723 Жыл бұрын
Biden isn’t. He just got a bunch of money for ukr
@blinxblinx3142
@blinxblinx3142 Жыл бұрын
Of course! Less mindless slaves for them to use, and exploit for their own narcissism.
@VAVORiAL
@VAVORiAL Жыл бұрын
I'm happy my unborn children will never be exploited, become wage slaves for narcissists and psychopaths or experience war, sickness etc. Not having children will be the best decision of my life.
@moisuomi
@moisuomi Жыл бұрын
@@VAVORiAL I guess humanity will die. FUCK
@deonambrose
@deonambrose Жыл бұрын
Yup! These billionaires and lobbyists are upset because there are fewer and fewer people being born to be exploited to make themselves richer.
@Vinegaroon
@Vinegaroon Жыл бұрын
You can worry, because I’m sure not going to
@blinxblinx3142
@blinxblinx3142 Жыл бұрын
You’re smart. Me neither. Lol.
@blackscreenstories3704
@blackscreenstories3704 Жыл бұрын
@@tomac100 Well, maybe if you would take a bath and get a girlfriend and quit jerking off into your socks, there'll be more kids around....1+1=2😄🤔🫡
@lanternlant1280
@lanternlant1280 Жыл бұрын
Then you’re ignoring something bad. Very negligent of you
@Ravenelvenlady
@Ravenelvenlady 5 ай бұрын
@lanternlant1280, Your shaming and gas lighting isn't going to increase the population. Try again.😂😂😂
@Raja1938
@Raja1938 10 ай бұрын
Cost of living, especially housing, has gotten so ridiculous that people are resorting to the last bit of power they have: the choice not to procreate.
@PerryVillanueva
@PerryVillanueva 10 ай бұрын
Should we worry about plummeting birthrates? The answer is no.
@fuckTrump-v7j
@fuckTrump-v7j Жыл бұрын
This is the best news of the century
@Ravenelvenlady
@Ravenelvenlady 5 ай бұрын
Yes indeed, especially for the planet.
@Photonblastt
@Photonblastt Жыл бұрын
I usually dont care too much about youtube ads but this really caught my eye, nice informative video dude!
@suzygirl1843
@suzygirl1843 Жыл бұрын
Nope. This is a natural. And besides, nerds are the ones being cut out the gene pool as God intended
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa Жыл бұрын
the biggest problem that is not in this video is the worldwide birth rate is also decreasing. although developed countries can increase the population with immigration. when the population of South America decreases, migration to the United States will stop
@skylinefever
@skylinefever Жыл бұрын
Loads of people have been coming in from mainland China even though it has been below replacement for decades.
@gulshangupta2471
@gulshangupta2471 Жыл бұрын
China's neighbor India will fill the developed countries population gap 🙂😉
@MeMe-zq7qd
@MeMe-zq7qd Жыл бұрын
No it won’t. Indias birthrate is dropping as well
@VeaRobinson
@VeaRobinson Жыл бұрын
As someone who's living out my own personal dream life. I'm on the fence about children currently. I wrestle within myself. I like some children in my life but others freak me out and reminds me why I don't have any. 😂
@petersuvara
@petersuvara Жыл бұрын
Your own ego or personal dream life, will never satisfy you in the same way as your children will. I know because I have tried both.
@followtruthwhereveritleads
@followtruthwhereveritleads Жыл бұрын
@@petersuvara Says YOU. First off, don't attempt to persuade somebody to have kids for the purpose of the PARENT'S satisfaction. That's wicked, children ought not be living for the sake of satisfying their parents. Second, nobody knows what kind of offspring they will have. How do you know you aren't birthing a future p3d0phile into the world? Or some other type of thing. How does somebody know if their child will be born with a severe mental defect or physical one? I don't have kids because life is an unwinnable, nonsensical DANGEROUS game of chance. Another good reason to not have kids is because people are somewhat inherently EVIL and reckless. The human being often isn't interested in wanting to understand the nature of logic and reason, and live by rational standards. No, people want to follow feelings over facts.
@kelleemerson9510
@kelleemerson9510 Жыл бұрын
Nieces, nephews, god children, volunteer care and babysitting are all reasonable substitutes for having your own. Being less invested and more level headed can be a great help to a child and the parents. Your just as valuable on a part time basis if you like children. Some people like a age group of children and being a parent, you don't get that luxury.
@MeMe-zq7qd
@MeMe-zq7qd Жыл бұрын
The problem is if everyone decides not have children like you it will be impossible to follow your dreams because no one will be around other than elderly people
@followtruthwhereveritleads
@followtruthwhereveritleads Жыл бұрын
@@MeMe-zq7qd 1. It depends on what somebody's dreams are. 2. SO WHAT? Its rational to prevent unnecessary suffering, not to just follow your dreams. Nobody should live life following a dream, they should live to remove unnecessary suffering in the world. Also, malicious people have dreams too that harm others. Apparently you're for that.
@kyronjb17
@kyronjb17 Жыл бұрын
Wait hold on. Don’t Americans complain about too many immigrants coming in the country? Now we are saying there aren’t ENOUGH people? Which is it 😑
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 Жыл бұрын
Hint: white babies
@NAUM1
@NAUM1 Жыл бұрын
Only certain Americans complain about immigration. Not many Americans seem to realize we have very low density compared to other places and therefore can fit a lot more people. For instance, if the US had one billion people it would have half the density of Germany.
@blackscreenstories3704
@blackscreenstories3704 Жыл бұрын
It's basically a racist nationalist dog whistle that says You white american christian republicans better start having babies Or you will be replaced with bad brown immigrants.... And worst of all they're trying to disguise it as patriotism to idiots
@kingrobotnik6950
@kingrobotnik6950 Жыл бұрын
@@NAUM1no no immigration is still an issue. We’re not putting them as far away from everybody in the empty space. They want to be were everyone else is. We don’t need immigration. We need more people having babies here who can raise them properly, and far less women in the workforce…
@blackscreenstories3704
@blackscreenstories3704 Жыл бұрын
@@tomac100 Apparently you don't understand america..🤣🤣🤣🤣 You're a nationalist disguising Individualism as your patriotism...
@dachickenman
@dachickenman Жыл бұрын
Maybe the problem is not properly specified. All the problems mentioned are technical issues, rather than the harder to specify and measure issue of societies not caring enough to perpetuate themselves, as well as a lot of unhappy individuals.
@eugenefirebird8938
@eugenefirebird8938 Жыл бұрын
Best thing that can happen is world population goes back to 1965 levels of about 3 billion. Things were way way better then.
@TheBokdol
@TheBokdol 3 ай бұрын
there are too many people in the world. so no declining is a good thing.
@ame_cake
@ame_cake Жыл бұрын
Great vid! Also that Singaporean ad lmao
@joemahony4198
@joemahony4198 Жыл бұрын
The Us should make parenting easier and less economically disadvantageous as France and Hungary have done.
@orlock20
@orlock20 Жыл бұрын
Both those countries have a declining birth rate.
@Leviathan762-zh4lq
@Leviathan762-zh4lq Жыл бұрын
"make it easier to form families" "Makes it easier to form families" "Proceeds to not have kids...."
@warfjm
@warfjm Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@MeMe-zq7qd
@MeMe-zq7qd Жыл бұрын
It will get worse before it gets better. It will spell disaster in the more immediate future when a shrinking society has to support the elderly baby boomers. Although, in the long run fewer people will be a good thing. Its just being able to run a society while old people outnumber young people in the immediate future will be very difficult.
@orlock20
@orlock20 Жыл бұрын
People don't have to support the elderly. Elderly abandonment has been happening for a very long time.
@jamessmith4287
@jamessmith4287 Жыл бұрын
@@orlock20that seems very wrong 😢
@suptumberlumbertumberlumbe9305
@suptumberlumbertumberlumbe9305 11 ай бұрын
@@orlock20that doesn't make it right.
@devilsadvocacy
@devilsadvocacy 11 ай бұрын
Aging Gen Xer here. I always looked at my 401 (k) as a better retirement plan than having kids. I was right; I’ll be able to retire at 55 and get out of the pile of hot garbage that is the US
@suptumberlumbertumberlumbe9305
@suptumberlumbertumberlumbe9305 10 ай бұрын
@@devilsadvocacy 97.77777777777777777777777777777%
@devilsadvocacy
@devilsadvocacy 11 ай бұрын
Who the hell can afford to have kids?
@TechWeLove
@TechWeLove 11 ай бұрын
Change the divorce laws. Divorce currently financially rewards the one who chooses to divorce. Frivolous gold digger divorces.
@rishi505
@rishi505 9 ай бұрын
8 billion is enough nothing to worry
@georgepaust8416
@georgepaust8416 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't worry about it too much. There's enough immigrants streaming over the borders illegally to make up that difference.
@nicksieben7701
@nicksieben7701 Жыл бұрын
This is good news, let it decline. #MGTOW
@denesejamerson2356
@denesejamerson2356 Жыл бұрын
Everybody calm down, babies will still be born.
@blinxblinx3142
@blinxblinx3142 Жыл бұрын
Cool! I think it’s a good thing. Less humans is better. They are too negative anyway. Lol.
@bobsontheepic42
@bobsontheepic42 Жыл бұрын
Universe 25 comes to mind when I hear about population collapse. Population collapse could lead to a lot of chaos and pain. As population gets older the health care most likely will become more expensive. Industries will suffer because of lower workforce and lower demand. As population collapses national debt will increase and it will be spread among less people. Some coutries will collapse under financial burden and with today's interconnected world it will ripple across the world. For example War in Ukraine had the possibility to create food shortages in many countries. Now imagine many countries collapsing at once. Also, there is a MIT program that predicts civilization collapse by about 2040 and apparently we are ahead of schedule.
@orlock20
@orlock20 Жыл бұрын
Rest homes are already charging $8,000 per month. The price is already too high so charging more is not going to make a difference.
@petersuvara
@petersuvara Жыл бұрын
It's not fewer children, the stats show childlessness. Check out the data!
@brockstar1311
@brockstar1311 Жыл бұрын
If you have a pension the answer is yes
@christopherjelen7661
@christopherjelen7661 11 ай бұрын
Ignore people like Elon Musk there's too many people on the planet 20% of the people on the planet consumed 80% of its resources
@shahankhan7685
@shahankhan7685 5 ай бұрын
The only way to improve brith rate is have a verry good wealth redistribution system.
@MJ-zo5gb
@MJ-zo5gb Жыл бұрын
How about tripling the tax deductions were having kids I think they would encourage a lot of people to have more!
@orlock20
@orlock20 Жыл бұрын
There are countries giving out vehicles, land and hundreds of dollars but those countries populations are going down too.
@Leviathan762-zh4lq
@Leviathan762-zh4lq Жыл бұрын
And increasing tax on those who don't
@christopherjelen7661
@christopherjelen7661 11 ай бұрын
People with out kids should not have to support those with them the more you consume the more you should pay
@MJ-zo5gb
@MJ-zo5gb 11 ай бұрын
@@christopherjelen7661 Well, No matter what side of the political aisle find yourself, you are a citizen of a country and it needs children to continue. IF Birth rates are falling, increasing tax ductions would be one option. Also, letting people keep more of the money they’ve earned is not making YOU pay. That is definitely a left-leaning idea. Furthermore, you imply that kids just consume, they also create, produce, take care of us when we’re old and continue humanity into the future……
@shahankhan7685
@shahankhan7685 5 ай бұрын
Edcuated smart People will only have kids if they can provide for them it's not to have 7 so 2 can survive into adulthood. It's to have 2 so 2 can thrive and have all the opportunity others kids have.
@JJ-rp2df
@JJ-rp2df Жыл бұрын
Declining divorce rates terrify women
@orlock20
@orlock20 Жыл бұрын
Fewer marriages means fewer divorces although the percentage of those married getting a divorce is the same.
@prita7654
@prita7654 Жыл бұрын
Ai will take care of a lot of the innovation
@Azaurus1
@Azaurus1 Жыл бұрын
We could scew the gender ratio female by 2/3 lowering the goalpost to 1.6.
@orangeorangeorange5075
@orangeorangeorange5075 Жыл бұрын
Yes we should.
@cherilynnfisher5658
@cherilynnfisher5658 Жыл бұрын
ROTFLMAO! BSC ya fools! BSC!
@lanternlant1280
@lanternlant1280 Жыл бұрын
Yes and it’s negligent to not care about this
@lilyann168
@lilyann168 Жыл бұрын
But wont all those old ppl needing support, die before too long? Because they are old. So then wont that imbalance even out?
@superjonne7916
@superjonne7916 Жыл бұрын
Then the people who are now middle aged will need caring for, and there are more of those than new people being born
@superjonne7916
@superjonne7916 Жыл бұрын
Every generation is smaller than the previous one
@redredred8408
@redredred8408 11 ай бұрын
Smiling flowers dancing
@constantinpadure6672
@constantinpadure6672 9 ай бұрын
Japan is not happy ...
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 Жыл бұрын
So it means
@oriraykai3610
@oriraykai3610 Жыл бұрын
No, because they're booming in Russia. 😅
@suzygirl1843
@suzygirl1843 Жыл бұрын
Because Russia has REAL men
@machupikachu1085
@machupikachu1085 Жыл бұрын
you spelled 'bombing' wrong...
@suzygirl1843
@suzygirl1843 Жыл бұрын
@@machupikachu1085 Whether they are booming or bombing, Putin is still the Mac Daddy.
@whitneyanders5945
@whitneyanders5945 Жыл бұрын
Yeah.. real men who smoke, drink, abuse their wives and have a life expectancy of about 65. We NEED more real men for sure 😂
@blackscreenstories3704
@blackscreenstories3704 Жыл бұрын
WROOOONG BUCKAROO..😂😂 The planet went from 2 billion in the 1900's.. now we're at 7.5 billion and rising... 😂😂😂😂 Long story short this commercial is about immigration... it has an agenda...
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 Жыл бұрын
ALL political opinions about what SHOULD be ARE AN AGENDA!
@9bang88
@9bang88 Жыл бұрын
Yea I smelled it from a mile away, more anti great replacement trash
@romanw8632
@romanw8632 Жыл бұрын
Is this pro or anti-immigration though that's the thing like if it has an agenda it's being really bad at presenting it
@suzygirl1843
@suzygirl1843 Жыл бұрын
@@romanw8632 No. The real answer is NERDS. Women in the East and West don't like them and they are turning women off in these First World countries. If you want more growth, you need REAL masculine men.
@polltlopoz9746
@polltlopoz9746 Жыл бұрын
It is now 8 billion population worldwide
@bussman007
@bussman007 Жыл бұрын
Judging by the comments it’s easy to see the conditioning to convince people being selfish is greater than having a family worked really well.
@brandy4530
@brandy4530 Жыл бұрын
Ugh, whatever. Keep spouting the whole “do what I want or you’re selfish” nonsense. Who cares. People are happier and better off without children. That’s just the world we live in. You think it’s selfish to choose happiness and financial security. Got it. I guess you are going to have to figure out another way to manipulate people into having kids other than name calling.
@bussman007
@bussman007 Жыл бұрын
@@brandy4530 I think it’s great people like you aren’t having children.
@hia5235
@hia5235 Жыл бұрын
Its not conditioning, its a rejection of society. Fix society, and we will have kids.
@bussman007
@bussman007 Жыл бұрын
@@hia5235 I don’t want people like you having kids. Quitters and whiners aren’t building the future that will “fix society”. The strong are though, in limited numbers, but that isn’t you.
@MeMe-zq7qd
@MeMe-zq7qd Жыл бұрын
If people keep deciding not to have kids there will be no society
@robiplay9409
@robiplay9409 Жыл бұрын
Children best part of life.
@skylinefever
@skylinefever Жыл бұрын
It may be the best for you, but there are plenty of people who don't like children and are better off without.
@inthisseason
@inthisseason Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@myrnaa1077
@myrnaa1077 Жыл бұрын
Grateful Child-Free here in the West💕🔥
@Ravenelvenlady
@Ravenelvenlady 5 ай бұрын
Go ahead and have twenty. No one is stopping you. I have no regrets and am child free. I have been happy serving children as a teacher.
@magustrigger9195
@magustrigger9195 Жыл бұрын
The key is to have more kids if you are moral and prevent the uneducated hoards from invading
@jasonkoroma4323
@jasonkoroma4323 Жыл бұрын
Oh yes, bring more kids in this fucked world. Totally the right solution!!@$%#
@skylinefever
@skylinefever Жыл бұрын
Politicians will let them in to make line go up, no matter what you do. I love seeing how despite the low birth rate of Japan and South Korea, they don't let randos in.
@prateekgoel2367
@prateekgoel2367 Жыл бұрын
Most of the uneducated are already right here. No invasion necessary.
@myrnaa1077
@myrnaa1077 Жыл бұрын
If you are moral, and yet the next second you say, uneducated hordes from invading LOLOL, who caused them to be what they seem to be in your mind, are? Oh ya, the West.
@brianbrown5070
@brianbrown5070 Жыл бұрын
Abolished child support. Problem solve.
@paganangel2682
@paganangel2682 10 ай бұрын
Don't have to worry about child support if kids aren't born.
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