The "base" is the MOST IMPORTANT aspect of judo and jujutsu

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Chadi

Chadi

Күн бұрын

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@Theemptyjacket
@Theemptyjacket 9 ай бұрын
Very good stuff. Just started teaching my nephews to grapple. I have them train a modified horse stance to find their base. It's a confidence booster for a young one when an 11 year old is able to support the weight of a grown man with a solid horse/base.
@Kitajima2
@Kitajima2 9 ай бұрын
I'm a Japanese hafu. My brother and I summered in Japan between the ages of 8-14. Our uncle had us do judo and kendo. Loved judo but the interesting thing about kendo is that the youngsters mostly develop core and base before moving to sword techniques. I remember doing horse stance and holding the bokken, arms straight out, sword perpendicular to the ground. Hated it, but it gave me incredible core strength. Lol ended up playing basketball and water polo (US national A )team, but I'll always remember judo and kendo for what it gave me
@Theemptyjacket
@Theemptyjacket 9 ай бұрын
@@Kitajima2 Very interesting. Thank you for sharing your experience. Only reinforces it for me. I trained horse later in life and learned the benefits. Great exercise.
@kv1entertainment370
@kv1entertainment370 9 ай бұрын
My cousin , who is a 3rd black belt under royce gracie ; told me that base is everything in jujutsu . When passing guard , when someone grabs you in a headlock etc. He told me, that royce told him that posture when passing the guard is the most important thing , even in a no holds barred fight when you are inside of someone elses guard.
@WadeSmith-oe5xd
@WadeSmith-oe5xd 8 ай бұрын
When you get inside a real A+ striker's guard you better be A+ at whatever your skillset is, because in no hold's barred they know how to work elbows and knees at that range. Some strikers, you may as well learn to work angles and pass their standing guard for a takedown, rather than an inside takedown. I had another brown belt man who was 6'3 who was hard to spar against, especially after sensei coached him and taught him to better balance his striking selection. You had two choices to fight a guy like that: Either get in on him to take away the length of his straight kicks and straight punches, butyou'd better be A+ in a clinch if you try that....or you work his angles and try to pass him when he either misses a round kick or slip a straight kick, then you can either land strikes of your own or go for some sort of side arm control situation, etc. But he got better and harder to beat. I mean, my sister, 135lbs woman 2nd kyu karate, complained that he was hard to beat, and I was like, "Angela, I toy with you and I find him hard to beat," Well, believe it or not, the judo guy I mentioned above could get in on him or pass his standing guard and take him down, especially by the time he also had 2nd kyu in Karate. lol. Yeah Judo works, once again, especially when combined with a good striking style to help cover your angles. Once he has both karate and judo skills, he can definitely sweep you or hip toss you if you screw up, and then even if you are bigger, he can ground and pound you from there with his new found karate skills. Tough sparring match for sure, and even circuit training 20 hours per week, it took me two years to figure out how to consistently fight him without being taken down every match.
@WadeSmith-oe5xd
@WadeSmith-oe5xd 8 ай бұрын
One of Professor Raphael Ellwanger's assistant instructors is a 3rd black in Judo AND a second black in Gracie Jiu Jitsu. He won a gold medal in Nevada Competition Judo a few years ago. I got to sit in and participate in a throwing and sweeping class he taught one day at the Jiu Jitsu school. I liked what I learned there, and also got to demonstrate Isshinryu karate takedowns too, so we all learned from one another. 3rd degree black in any real martial arts style really knows their stuff, and you're sure to learn something when they teach or give a seminar. Professor Elwanger is 4th black in Gracie Jiu Jitsu.
@yohannschroo5644
@yohannschroo5644 9 ай бұрын
This is true : the wrestling / judo défense is important for judo like traditional japanase jujutsu. I do that in my project ❤
@jeannormand5982
@jeannormand5982 9 ай бұрын
Explications très intéressantes, autant pour un pratiquant de Judo-Jujutsu que pour un pratiquant d'Aïkido.
@WadeSmith-oe5xd
@WadeSmith-oe5xd 8 ай бұрын
I have some degree of Combat Judo training, but no official belt level. I'm primarily a karate fighter. If I think my opponent knows Judo or Jiu jitsu, I work twice as hard on maintaining balance and not over-committing to an attack, so they can't just shoot on me or hip toss me or sweep me. It took years to learn to hold a stance that a Judoka couldn't just abuse and hip toss me, etc. I usually fight from a "Guard" stance also knowns as Seisan in Karate. Sometimes i fight in a Naihanchi or horse stance temporarily, but i make sure my posture is not vulenerable to easy takedowns. Sparring a good Judoka repeatedly in karate class definitely made me into a more rounded fighter.
@JukidoAcademy
@JukidoAcademy 9 ай бұрын
@Chadi Great topic! Coincidentally, I have always found that the concepts of Jigotai (and to a lesser extent Shizentai) to be widely misunderstood. For many Jigotai seems to be just a stance. While it encompasses stance, it is also a means of both absorbing and repelling energy. One often sees translations of Jigotai as "Self Defense Stance." While this might not be inaccurate, I think much is lost in translation. The "self defense" here isn't referring to "street" self defense (although it is extremely relevant there) but rather suggests more the "defense of self"... As in defending the integrity of the body or the self from being controlled, toppled, ragdolled, etc. Protecting and maximizing structure. This is a fuller sense of what Jigotai is about and it is applied, as you and jujutsu masters from past & present point out, in contexts beyond the initial stance/posture of classical jigotai. The defense of self (by basing, connection, etc) is paramount for the highest levels of the art... Yet it is "the basics." The basics never go out of style. They are eternal.
@johnelliott9823
@johnelliott9823 9 ай бұрын
great vid IME erect spine in standup grappling is good for crushing sutemi waza, provided you have a base and you can feel the opponent's attack and lower your center of gravity ahead of the drag from the opponent thus creating slack. Used similar approach to defeat drop seio upright spine reflex made me step over opposite shoulder, though first time it happened I was as surprised as anyone. Weight forward can make u vulnerable to these methods because you can't lower the center as fast, you can't go straight down. just my observation.
@sergiocortinhas6742
@sergiocortinhas6742 9 ай бұрын
Uchi mata sukashi is very rare to see and aply, i only saw that type of counter atack on old video judo competition, and ane goshi as well.
@flyfin108
@flyfin108 9 ай бұрын
if you want to improve your stance and balance while moving, try taichi walking (found in many forms but mainly in generalized 24form and yang style) when you move forward, make it really slow with fairly long step, and here is the most important part: when you lift back foot, make it smoothly, there should be no speed change at all, no jerking, just one continues movement when your toe tips lift from the ground, lower you do it harder it gets
@kombijr
@kombijr 8 ай бұрын
How has it worked for you?
@flyfin108
@flyfin108 8 ай бұрын
@@kombijr i can push a man 4-5 meters away without em touching ground, tho its been decades so cant know if im still able
@kombijr
@kombijr 8 ай бұрын
@@flyfin108 interesting, I’ll definitely look into that. Never thought of tai chi, but have seen plenty of Chinese people in my area (LA) do it. Might have to ask them lol thanks for the info.
@flyfin108
@flyfin108 8 ай бұрын
@@kombijr taichi walking is basic practise coming from sports university of beijing, i have no idea what they do in more traditional training. i had couple classes of traditional chen style and it felt really powerfull, altho there was no anything similar to taichi walk
@flyfin108
@flyfin108 8 ай бұрын
@@kombijr look his back foot lift
@RicoMnc
@RicoMnc 9 ай бұрын
Yes, whenever one of my "go to " techniques fail, it is because I was impatient and didn't establish good base and connection to my training partner.
@aleksiskonstantaras810
@aleksiskonstantaras810 9 ай бұрын
Very valuable subject Chadi,thank you! Can you please recommend exercises that strengthens your base?
@Diego-hm1wd
@Diego-hm1wd 9 ай бұрын
shiko-dachi / horse stance training. Just hold the position and increase the time (it works for me aha).
@Bandy64
@Bandy64 9 ай бұрын
They all look very similar to many karate stances.
@lambosnicko
@lambosnicko 9 ай бұрын
Makes sense since karate came from the striking aspect of Jujutsu.
@CabralNick
@CabralNick 9 ай бұрын
​@@lambosnicko No, it did not!! Karate may have been influenced by Ju Jutsu due to the Satsuma Clan's invasion and domain of Ryukyu (today's Okinawa), but that's far from being Karate's origins. It's a known fact that it came from China, and we know for sure that all the old masters of Okinawa traveled to China (most to Fujian) at some point to study the martial arts! So no, Karate does not come from Ju Jutsu, since it's a branch of the traditional Chinese martial arts!
@WadeSmith-oe5xd
@WadeSmith-oe5xd 8 ай бұрын
they had a Judo brown belt join my Sensei's Isshinryu karate school back in the day. Only reason he wasn't a black belt is he couldn't meet the competition requirements being the Dean of a University. so anyway, by the time he also earned a 3rd kyu/1st brown belt in Isshinryu karate, he was one tough cookie to crack in a sparring match. I did eventually learn how to keep him from taking me down and tying me up, but it literally took two years working at it. If you throw a round kick at a Judoka, it better be perfect, because they'll single leg takedown or sweep your planted foot and you'll be picking yourself up off the floor. Also he knows cross-arm breaker and RNC so you better know some submissions defense too. Sparring him greatly improved my striking game and stance, because I had to learn how not to get thrown or taken down by him. At the least if he got hold of you, then you got tossed over his hip or knee, etc. So yeah, Judo works, and a good brown or black belt in Judo combined with an Okinawan striking class can make a martial artist into a very well rounded fighter who is just very hard to beat. In hind sight, there's only two reasons i could beat im in sparring: 1, I was circuit training 20 hours per wee, and 2, I was a weight class bigger than him so I had a strength advantage. Had he been a 185 fighter I might not have been able to beat him at all. In any case, I'm pretty sure he would mess up any street fighter and wreck them pretty easily.
@joeblogs-vx4ep
@joeblogs-vx4ep 8 ай бұрын
People doint understand horse riding stance They think its useless and outdated but its very important to develop leg and core strength Its used throughout the nihanshi karate kata which is a grappling Kata The techniques of defense and offense in the kata are devistateing...
@kojo68
@kojo68 9 ай бұрын
💯 I want the BASE of a black hole😝 excellent video 🙏🏽
@EthanNoble
@EthanNoble 7 ай бұрын
I’m Karate we have Sanchin where we practice a stance on being grounded
@simaojones3430
@simaojones3430 5 ай бұрын
this pose reminds the shiko dachi pose from karate
@BANIASU-abandoned
@BANIASU-abandoned 9 ай бұрын
interesting video
@kingbyrd.1512
@kingbyrd.1512 9 ай бұрын
I really want to get my base right as relatively inexperienced grappler.
@pichetkullavanijaya6908
@pichetkullavanijaya6908 9 ай бұрын
I love the old Kimono, and pants... Short arms and longer skirt... Pants have shorter and higher legs... The way I see it, your testicles so not get restricted from very high and tight pants and very short hem line... One man to another, I don't have to tell you how uncomfortable that feels.
@Laj-t9k
@Laj-t9k 9 ай бұрын
Is jujutsu the same art as jiujitsu? I don't know much about grounf fighting.
@lambosnicko
@lambosnicko 9 ай бұрын
They are the same. Jiu jitsu was spelled that way because of how it sounded. BJJ however is grappling only for competitions.
@Laj-t9k
@Laj-t9k 9 ай бұрын
@@lambosnicko thank you
@twoblocksdown5464
@twoblocksdown5464 9 ай бұрын
*Базированно*
@blaa443blaa2
@blaa443blaa2 8 ай бұрын
you apparently have no idea how compicated structure a (Giza ) Pyramid is
@MizanQistina
@MizanQistina 9 ай бұрын
Most of Asian martial arts have low stances. It is called "riding horse" stance, my people call it "kuda-kuda". It has different usage and context depends on the geography, for my people in Silat, it is for fighting on muddy/soft ground and on boats (Malay was maritime people). You will find out that Silat coming from paddy field areas have a very low stances and doing ground fights a lot. It is true for peasants, farmers, common people who don't mind their clothes got dirty. But Silat originate in towns or cities where rich people live, they have higher stances and no stance at all. It is simply because their clothes are expensive, so they don't want to go on the ground, their techniques are for fighting while standing casually. So, what I mean is, martial art isn't created in certain ways just because it is the way to fight, but it can also be created to suite the people's attitude. Example :---> kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ68dZmtbLN9a80
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