The Best (and Worst) Training Tools Ranked by Dave MacLeod

[@fluffycolt5608]

I was a total punter who couldnt climb 6B. I got a fingerboard and did max hangs. Became a total punter who climbed 7B.

[@Macvombat]

Maybe if you get a campus board, you'll become a total punter who does 8B? Or injured. One or the other.

[@faarao44]

What does punter mean? Someone who pays for sex? :)

[@RoscoMack]

​@@faarao44 yeah

[@owninggreendragsdude]

please explain the protocol you used. What you mean by max hang and how often

[@maxdilcon5679]

Climb v11 with only some very periodic fnigerboarding. Climb on the board 5 times a week thoughhh

[@KayMa1992]

There is a time stamp for Sparkle, You KNOW the video is made with heart and sweat

[@Govanification]

Dude you are crushing the collabs for the size of your channel.

[@TheBananaLoverorignal]

Awesome to have Dave on here. Very positive influence for climbers.

[@ryanpenrod1859]

Double video?! Awesome! Also we do NOT mind Sparkle. I love Sparkle. He's beautiful, what a great rescue.

[@kylem7890]

immediately paid the cat tax, thanks for not leaving us hanging

[@PeterLE2]

A fingerboard is not needed BUT it helps. The difference between just climbing and fingerboard training/weight training/gymnastic exercises is that you can quantify your training and thus measure it. This is what makes it possible to improve and optimize your training

[@tengru]

My boy now hanging out and interacting with Magnus, Emil, Dave and other climbing legends 😮‍💨 Your hard work continues to pay off!

[@agario5161]

I love how dave could talk about climbing forever

[@lithium661]

4 days ago and 8 views? But nice video, I love the increasing quality

[@ClimbingStuff]

The video isn't live yet lol, I usually keep videos closed to the public for a few days to resolve any copyright issues and whatnot. IDK how you found the video early lol, but I appreciate the kind words. I've been putting a lot more time into vids so it's great to hear that you're enjoying them!

[@lithium661]

@@ClimbingStuff It was in "Not Climbing Stuff" playlist :)

[@AWer2]

Lol

[@oDazzleRazzle]

@@lithium661 hey I heard the FBI is hiring

[@rooknado]

@@lithium661that’s awesome ngl you got the video early and found a secret

[@mystishio]

Dave's always a treat! Interesting stuff, and some good takeaways! And I (like the whole internet) love Sparklez❤

[@vidhill]

It ended a little abruptly, did the sponsors pull the plug 😄

[@matteobecchi1210]

@climbermacleod we need a video on your strength exercises with the rings!

[@GourmetBurrito]

I'll also say, I kind of like coming up with my own training plans. They might not as efficient as something some pro climbing coach made, but it makes me more focused in the training since I can think of how I might need to adjust the training throughout the training session rather than having my mind wander

[@christopherwells4768]

You have my favorite handle. Just saying. 😂

[@noiseforthealgorithm4668]

You didn’t ask about circuits, spray wall, kilter, moon board, etc 😖😖😖💨

[@CLANK...]

Given that the main thing Dave does is boulder on a spray wall, and do circuits, and that he stated bouldering is the best training, I'd guess they'd be S. It's the ultimate training as it is climbing, just at a height intensity on a set hold selection. Be interesting to hear if he had a preference of board though

[@noiseforthealgorithm4668]

@@CLANK... I get the feeling that Dave does more circuits than bouldering on his home wall. but there s no way to know.. @ClimbingStuff you failed us

[@BrettGilmour]

There is always a way. Ask Dave, for example.

[@robinmarriott00]

He did include synthol though, so that’s useful

[@boddzillabodman2377]

13:15 “He’s still upright so it can’t be that hard a circuit”, classic Dave 😂

[@tuckervandy492]

Thank you… love watching climbing and love watching your videos

[@SJAM1]

Loving the content Mr Stuff

[@AmbroseEzzat]

Fantastic collab! Love to see this channel growing. Really wish you brought up board climbing and spray walls though! Keep up the great work \m/

[@jem8450]

I think the best combination of all of these is a spray wall, it’s useful at all ability’s, you can campus, train footwork, and can be a hangboard. It also allows for more unique movements and doesn’t just train 1 thing specificity. Pro climbers use it so it must be goof

[@FrogGuy-tt1wq]

pros use it so it must be good is a logical fallacy, it’s gonna be true a lot, but not everything pros do is even right for them, it’s almost certainly not gonna be right for an amateur

[@tim.trewartha]

"I've never heard of anyone using rings as a climbing training tool" - Alex Megos, "Am I a joke to you?"

[@CheesyBread]

Ive changed my training plans often which I’ve felt somewhat insecure about. I was under the impression that you need some sort of catch all absolute training plan to hit your goals but I was glad to hear that Dave agrees with my instinctual thoughts to change my training frequently based on my needs in the moment.

[@darkkeijp]

Let me just replace my fingerboarding with 40 years of climbing experience.

[@UNVIRUSLETALE]

Came for the training tips, stayed for sparklez

[@eSKAone-]

17:44 greatest tip dude. Do the boulders that are just on your limit over and over again!💟🌌

[@_jpfq_]

I think the 4 by 4 are useful if you train on commercial gyms that don't offer circuits for power endurance training.

[@josephweldemariam7352]

if you do this again, would be interested to see where Dave would rank floor pools, especially with relation finger boarding as they have become increasingly popular in climbing.

[@heighRick]

Dave, Climbing Stuff, very useful, thanks a lot!

[@Shin-bq8bg]

Very good quality edit!! Keep it up!

[@ActuallyMichael]

This was a very useful video thanks

[@randomhoe40]

from what i heard and experienced the 4x4 is a technique drill for beginners. i used it couple of times. i felt like it helped to repeat the routes. with every try i understood the moves better and could do adjustments. the 4th try was always a different technique than the first one. so for me in my early climbing time the 4x4 drill was defintely more a technique thing

[@Bogo0112]

What about Board Climbing?

[@KeananBradley]

Synthol but no board climbing is crazy lol

[@gingobingo1567]

@@KeananBradley haha yea

[@aviduke]

He loves them

[@Domn879]

Footwork. I try and put my feet upon surfaces all over the house. While the kettle is on etc. it sounds daft but going for control and accuracy has given me quieter feet while climbing.

[@maboesanman]

“This guy looks healthy” lmao

[@MyMusicSosa]

The Eastern Bloc joke was gold how did you miss it 😭

[@Michael_Schmatzberger]

I really appreciate the effort you put into your videos, they are very entertaining :)

[@CMD-Otter]

Climbing stuff double upload in 24 hrs, it’s Christmas

[@rooknado]

Just when it can’t get any better oh my goodness, Halo Reach collectors edition figurine/ diorama in the back!

[@thomasnolastname2172]

I personally slowly moved away from hangboards and almost exclusively use lifting blocks. Would have been nice to know Daves opinion on those!

[@selfmadethousanaire]

I strained a pulley the 3rd time I ever tried to hang board and I’ve been not that stoked on it since

[@rellify3]

Was really hoping to hear Dave's thoughts on no hang finger training.

[@agario5161]

Thank you our lord for another great video :)

[@Fallenangel_85]

Well, the app is free and the pet coach is not, so the choice for most of us is obvious. The app helps a lot with keeping up with training, it logs want you do too, so you feel like you did something, like you got exp points basically. And you can honestly just adjust whatever program you're running on the app. It's just a tool after all.

[@stretch8390]

A minor but interesting point to me: I really wish the climbing community would standardise their terminology to exercise science because it's often tricky to know what qualities climbers are talking about when they say someone/thing is a power/powerful climber.

[@cyalata11]

he says he got a single campus rung above his door, and all of a sudden, he had a big jump in strength...So he did use hangboards!

[@rupz7064]

one of the things that makes the hangboard really usefull for me is the fact that it doesnt shred my skin. For people like me with weak ass skin its really usefull to be able to train without bleeding half an hour in lol

[@yaldnif1438]

I saw a physio for a minor pulley injury and they told me they don't generally recommend hangboarding for climbers. They suggested that spray wall and board climbing would be more impactful training tools to try since they build full body strength along with finger strength (kind of toward Dave's point that he got super strong just by climbing) It's also worth mentioning that this physio is a lifelong climber and climbing coach so they have alot of experience in the area

[@chary3077]

missed out on adding system boards and spray wall

[@dab88]

clearly asking about synthol was more important...

[@REstrACIA]

14:42 : footwork Work boulder problems that are just beyond your ability, send, and repeat. Accept failure and you'll succeed. Climb slab, caves, all of it.

[@xTobsecretx]

The biggest problem with four by fours is where I live it’s impossible to do on a regular wall at the gym bc they’re all so busy.

[@kakizame]

Synthol is just aesthetics, the idea that it makes you look stronger can give a boost in self worth

[@frostytf2]

Wait a minute: that gym at :04 is my gym in Oakley, Cincinnati…

[@ducko1988]

Nvm Dave Mac, man’s rocking the Halo reach legendary edition diorama 👌

[@paulmitchell5349]

Campus boarding not much use for hanging on a long time while carrying a trad rack. When you get past 50 your knees will thank you for not jumping down from the top of the boulder wall. USA boulderer John Gill was originally a gymnast and that training was continued while he started bouldering. Gymnasts are stronger than climbers, period. Lynn Hill also started as a gymnast.

[@spacecowboysucio]

Great video

[@NPC-fl3gq]

For your next collab I dare you to reach out to Matt Climber... ...and ask him who you should collab with (and collab with Adam Ondra no matter what he says) 😂

[@jamescrews3516]

Awsome content 👌 👏

[@reiemg]

Banger intro

[@segaGenesis24]

hangboard, weighted pull-ups and climb. That's all you need to get better at this sport

[@LizardMods]

Me looking for the app in the description lol

[@plasma4902]

What about the things you squeeze in your hand

[@definitelynotclickbait8283]

hangboard is useful for bouldering imo

[@lucasspiegel]

Climbing Stuff seems nervous for this one. Dave is a pros pro

[@pietrospampatti2985]

What about moonboard?

[@santiagoarias50]

This is a big one.

[@dalle99ad]

Im afraid this David fella doesn't really know what he is talking about since he graded synthol below S+

[@PeterLE2]

Dave is a climbing legend and a former professional climber. He most likely thought synthol is a PED. PEDs give you a huge boost. It's impact is stronger than training it self. But it comes with a high price. In my gym there was a young guy. He improved insanely fast. But then he just disappeared. Later he came back but was in a wheelchair. It turned out that he used PEDs and got a stroke because of this abuse. He not only will never climb again but he'll also will never walk again or use the toilet on his own and he's still in his early 20s. I have 3 guys in my circle that got strokes in their 20s because they used PEDs. This guy and 2 hobby bodybuilders. Fortunately the other 2 had no long term damage.

[@tonymills8383]

Sparkles loves being on camera 😂

[@oaxacenio]

11:50 "... an satisfactory guess.. " me getting scared playing satisfactory while listening to this

[@ndazza]

The factory must grow

[@eSKAone-]

Tool for footwork: slaps and overhangs

[@MrApetape]

If you hang up the hang board that is shown in the picture, youre not able to hang from the harder edges. Who ever designed the picture of this hangboard has no clue what to do with it haha

[@piti3811]

What a cute cat ❤

[@Johnny_Cash_Flow]

Sponsored by --Crimpd-- Hangboards!

[@jackvermaak9800]

Do American climbing in gyms not have rings???

[@purdypart]

In the bigger west coast cities I've been to yes, the smaller towns or other parts of the country, I can't speak to really, but the few smaller city/ towns i have been to, didn't see rings.

[@definitelynotclickbait8283]

why cant u say slavic? im confused

[@enuc7894]

Bat de stiil is heevier den de feedrs

[@BeautifulFreakful]

lmao that ending

[@cappuccappuc3826]

Hi climbing stuff

[@DragonSlayerBrick]

I hope antihydral is in this video

[@danielwesterlund1905]

Cute cat.

[@nitroputin5790]

dont worry, slavic people have thick skin, you can say whatever you want

[@victoralessandromacedo3300]

that cris sharma pic ahhahahahahaha

[@xyan3191]

I did not like the look of the AI generated guy, id rather see a pic of you on there (or one of your photoshop pastes of your face)

[@xyan3191]

ill admit, the scottish guy one was pretty funmy

[@adamzetek785]

Omg it’s idubbz

[@caraudioetc]

Crap, bout to be that guy. Force x velocity = momentum, not power. Thats why it’s measured in Nm/s (Newton meters per second) Power (in terms of strength) is a colloquial term. The unit to use when measuring strength would either be Newtons (force) either dynamic or over time. Or Nm (torque) if measuring a specific muscle movement as it is strength at a distance from an axis of rotation I.e your elbow or shoulder. Sorry everyone.

[@ndazza]

... the best kind of correct

[@santttu3533]

Isn't momentum velocity x mass? And power is force x velocity. Power is commonly represented as energy/time and energy is force x distance. Sorry to argue😅

[@ndazza]

@@santttu3533 I had to pull out my dynamics textbook. You're right, momentum (linear momentum) = velocity x mass. Power is Nm/s or J/s i.e. energy over time, where Nm is the moment of force. Force x angular velocity is N rad / s. Which is actually pretty close to power, once you convert the angle using the dimensions of the climber you're there

[@shawnington]

no system boards? crys in finger injuries.

[@comboghastakazombiehackerm602]

yo

[@middle-agedclimber]

Side note: ruSSkies have nothing in common with the rest of Eastern Europe. Great video.

[@jussirautiainen3784]

This conversation is stupid ...

[@purdypart]

I totally enjoyed this, and while i get the tongue and cheek, humor based addition of the Ai pcs, please just stop using it, giving it airtime, support real ppl... graphic artists, random nephew with photoshop, etc.

[@TheOnlyWayUp-iv8gr]

Can I also just say that they didn’t even rank a yoga mat, flexibility is just as important as strength.

[@diags_1109]

Scoff your just week I'll show you how to campus board for my name is Dynags1

[@TheOnlyWayUp-iv8gr]

Woah woah woah, where the shlizz is the tension board/training board. Dave talked about how he got strong by just bouldering and climbing and the training board is literally the same thing as it’s just bouldering but it targets more of your power.

[@TheOnlyWayUp-iv8gr]

The campus board trains finger strength, contact strength, lock off strength and explosive power all at the same time. While I get that it’s not the most important tool it gives you a great baseline for your strength because when you’re using your board for training or you’re “climbing random boulders outdoors” you’re training different, random muscles in your body and there’s no way you can train everything you want because your climbing style and your mindset will limit you to that which is why you should have a base for your strength and power via the campus board and the hangboard among other things like gym rings.