The BEST controller you can get right now, period.

[@rev0lverocel0t]

Biggest problem with the elite controllers is how much they break. Something will break in 6 months guaranteed. You NEED to get the warranty.

[@WHYDAFUCKULYING]

No way you must throw your controller when you rage quit 😅

[@Chris.Batchelor]

@@WHYDAFUCKULYING nah I’m on my third one, they just break easy. First one had the thumb stick not click (still registered though), the second one both bumpers would either not register or double register, on my third one in starting to get the bumper issue again. I have gotten the warranty after the first so I can just replace them over and over again

[@Sean-gh3rn]

@@WHYDAFUCKULYING No. stick drift and materials degrading like the rubber grips is a huge problem. Ive had to replace mine 3 times under warranty. Its a good controller with serious issues.

[@AceFondu]

@@WHYDAFUCKULYING No, he's right. I've had two malfunction in different ways and I baby my stuff. The first one the RB button stopped registering consistently (which is a shockingly common issue I discovered). My second one has mild stick drifting which I'm sure will get worse with time. Meanwhile, with all my other systems I've never had any other controller ever break on me save for a PS2 controller that just randomly wouldn't respond anymore lol, I have no idea what happened to that thing.

[@trevward5508]

Can back this comment up. I grab a warranty at Best Buy & replace it a few days before it expires. I've had bumpers break, buttons stick, buttons require more pressure, the trigger lock switches breaking off, the grip peeling off, stick drift out of the box, and more. This is all just from regular use. They have severely poor quality control. I'm wondering if that 8bitdo Ultimate Controller is a better purchase.

[@CarrizalesVO]

Hey Bob, you should probably do a re-review of this controller a year from now. I only had mine for a year, with what I would consider regular, adult use, and I have rubber lifting from the handles, analog sticks that lost adherence to their shaft, and paddles that do NOT retain the same clickiness/responsiveness as when you first get them. I don't believe the core made any changes to the construction or the components, so I'm willing to bet you're gonna see some problems in the near future.

[@robbiemcnair9963]

Yep same here probably gonna have to throw the thing out unfortunately, was amazing but it didn’t last long

[@aronfaine9457]

Ive not had the issues youre experiencing, but Ive had my Elite s2 for over a year, and my bumpers double register when I click them. I notice it often during racing games when it double upshifts and I lose torque. My analogue sticks may have gotten a tiny bit loose too, but you can adjust the tension and that helped. I also use the soft thumbsticks instead of the default textured ones, they seem to hold up longer for me.

[@Chris.Batchelor]

@@aronfaine9457 the bumpers have been the biggest problem for me. They don’t last long at all. I’m on my third one and while I love the controller it’s just not good enough to justify spending all this money on a custom controller I might but be able to get insurance on.

[@Grimlo9ic]

This is what's preventing me from buying one. I know, confirmation bias and all that, but I just keep reading about one too many longetivitiy issues to get one. I'd rather get the new 8BitDo Ultimate one with the Hall effect joysticks.

[@TheMysteryDriver]

Waiting for a year after the elite 3 release to see if they're good

[@StephenC555]

Never buy the Elite controller, unless you are ok with purchasing an expensive controller that breaks around a year. My Elite V2 got left bumper unresponsive issue and left stick heavy drift upward around 1 year. It really sucks. Many people encountered same issues too, so the product actually has some serious flaws.

[@rhymingbecktionary]

I remember there being a LOT of reports of QC issues and poor durability over time with the first run of Elite controllers which is especially egregious given how much they cost. That alone has kept me from even giving them a chance.

[@seank218]

This. I’ve been too worried about QC and durability to spend the money on an Elite Controller, and MS have done nothing to alleviate my concerns.

[@katjapvl]

My v2 has been mostly fine, but I've found that every Xbox controller I've used, including the elite (v2) has issues with face button registration. I can repeatedly press buttons (like 'A') at a certain angle and for it to never register a press. ...so I really like it, I just never use it, because I can't trust the face buttons.

[@al-ww5jp]

@@seank218 as long as they keep using potentiometer sensors and not hall sensors it will most definitely break.

[@osamu_90]

@@al-ww5jp Unfortunately in the Elite Controllers' case the bumpers tend to break first. If you take it apart you'll see that it's a Frankenstein's monster among controllers with weird design choices (likely to save space due to how much they crammed into it).

[@-opus]

Would love the extra buttons, but they are just so overpriced, just as all of the extra button ones are, aside from the really crappy ones.

[@gamingaccessgranted]

It can't be the best without gyro. Even Warzone now introduced gyro on PlayStation and PC, but not Xbox.

[@thefreshtowel9815]

Gyro is the future and my aim is trash without it

[@DraakjeYoblama]

I clicked the video just to see if it has gyro

[@dipperstan8226]

Agreed

[@k1llm333]

Best in terms of use. Not that many games with gyro compared to those that don't have/need it.

[@retrochi71]

Gyro mid

[@Day100]

Gyro missing is the only thing stopping me from switching to it.

[@Han_Solo6712]

Same. My aim is already hardwired to aim with gyro so sticks only would make me A LOT worse. Maybe somebody (maybe even me) can make a mod or an accessory. Hopefully Microsoft just upgrades it.

[@puneet7768]

Seriously man Microsoft please give us gyro ffs

[@bland9876]

Gyro is way better if you have capacitive thumb sticks like the Steam Deck or Steam Controller trackpad. I hate when playing Splatoon where I have to keep pushing the white button to recenter the camera whereas if I release my finger from the joystick on the steam deck I can just move my hand back into the correct position. I Also would love it if you could have a controller with independently mapable back buttons I don't want them to have to duplicate a different buttons function.

[@StrandgaZt]

And the speaker and light indicator is missing.

[@protocetid]

This guy joked his video sounded like an advertisement as if he couldn’t have easily avoided it. There are glaring flaws with Microsoft’s so called premium controllers that he perplexingly refused to bring up. Wulf Den didn’t bother to mention Sony’s upmarket controller will have replaceable joysticks. Gyro is more accurate than sticks, Hall effect joysticks are supposed to be extra precise and reliable. So much for a “pro” controller, last but not least is how behind the times Xbox controllers are. Competitors have the aforementioned features, haptic feedback and the DualSense has the trigger resistance. Microsoft very slightly changed their 9 year old controller and slapped on a price hike.

[@stormypinkness4030]

100% agree, so many quality of life upgrades to a normal controller. I've been using mine for 5-6 years now I think and it's been amazing. The last year or so some of the rubber on the thumb sticks has worn off, but they gave me more of them so I just switched. I really love that I don't need to click in the thumbsticks anymore, for whatever reason that is something that always hurt my thumbs the most over time.

[@WillFuI]

yours doesnt have any issues after 6 years?

[@kosztaz87]

You must be the only person on this planet whose Elite controller hasn't broken down after like a year of use.

[@sirshartsalotxvii]

@@kosztaz87 hahahahahahahahaha

[@leoforzeth]

No gyro, no hall effect sticks, no on board memory and extremely poor QA on top of that means youre overpaying for the only premium feature which is some extra metal sticks you're never going to use.

[@nukeclears]

Love the Xbox controller as primarily a PC user. It just works seamlessly, is built well, feels good to use and lasts seemingly forever. What more could I want!

[@zeer88]

Same. The base one is pretty much perfect, I've tested controllers from GuliKit and 8bitdo and while they have their advantages, none is as good as a whole as the Xbox one. It's also great that it pairs flawlessly with Xbox, PC, Android and iOS.

[@mateusu9895]

Not only that, i also have a Switch and buying a 8bitdo adapter makes the Xbox One controller works there too, flawlessly.

[@yoaiou]

Gyro.

[@Ficohaker]

@@mateusu9895 thank you for this, I was looking how to get my xbox elite run on switch. I will definitely pick the adapter now :)

[@TexasHockeyClub]

I agree with you 100 percent. I think the Xbox controller is one of the best controllers ever made.

[@Meninem_]

Controllers with Gyro support: steam controller, steam deck, ps4, ps5 joycons, switch pro controller, wiimote, wii gamepad, Notice how I still haven't mentioned an official xbox branded controller yet?

[@danieltrammel2559]

Xbox has always had a pretty great controller. I’m curious to see how the PlayStation “pro” controller will be like for ps5. With me having big hands this has always been a great choice.

[@marceloscarvalho7159]

I don't think they always made good controllers. The first one (The Duke) was pretty bad. Glad they improved throughout the years though.

[@JustinThompson]

I'm intrested too but Sony said Hold My Beer when it came to price. If you think the Xbox controller is expensive...

[@Rooster832]

@@marceloscarvalho7159 The duke was a good controller to me and fit my hands just fine.

[@Rooster832]

PS5 Pro controller battery life is so bad though.

[@marceloscarvalho7159]

@@Rooster832 Yeah, the awnser to whether a controller is good or not depends entirely on the person, so you can't really claim that. What I meant to say is that most people think The Duke is bad, so the general consensus is that it's not a good controller, at least to most people.

[@Nexus71c]

Correction: You actually can connect an Xbox controller to a Switch! All you need is an adapter such as the MayFlash Magic-NS 2. That one added support for Xbox Bluetooth controllers. I have the Magic-NS 1 that doesn't have support for it, but I've used it to connect a PS4 controller to my Switch before and it works very well!

[@heyGetoutofthere]

Modded switch can also, without a purchase just software Mission control

[@ricardojvalentincruz3320]

@@heyGetoutofthere yeah but no, it currently doesn't support Xbox series controllers yet (at least not last time I checked)

[@heyGetoutofthere]

@@ricardojvalentincruz3320 yes but yes!Microsoft Xbox One S/X Controller is Supported! (not to be confused with Series S/X controllers - these use Bluetooth LE, which isn't currently supported)* Microsoft Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2 supported!

[@ricardojvalentincruz3320]

@@heyGetoutofthere oh, didn't knew that, thanks for the info tho!

[@bobbytaylor6363]

8bitdo also makes adapters

[@DiscoCokkroach]

I always love how Bob walks out at the end of all of his videos. It's like he's saying, "This was a great time we just had, my good viewer. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need resume being a human being and do things like drink water." It's very endearing.

[@Matt23488]

If only it had gyro, it would make the decision a no-brainer for me. But it doesn't, so that's a massive tradeoff. Especially since I've become accustomed to the Steam Deck and playing with dual analog + gyro, it just feels better than both dual analog alone and keyboard + mouse (in my opinion). Keyboard + mouse is fine, I do love the precision I get with the mouse, but not having analog control for the movement is also a huge tradeoff.

[@08boatfg]

A dualsense scuf controller or the upcoming dualsense edge is the nearest equivalent to what's in the video (ultra high end) but it keeps the gyro and the touchpad that you're after :) The video title doesn't seem right to me when these sorta features are missing when basically everything apart from Xbox and Android support them

[@freefalling6960]

What is a gyro?

[@rollingthunder9769]

Search for gulikit kingkong 2 pro. Thank me later.

[@SummaryGamingYT]

@@freefalling6960 gyroscope sensor in the controler that can detect movment and rotation.

[@randybobandy9828]

Wtf are you using gyro for?

[@Danzig420]

I bought the original elite controller, twice. Both had issues within a year that led to me basically never using them again. Grip even started peeling off, and I take great care of my tech. Tempted to try this new core model out due to the price, although my Hyperkin Duke has met all my gaming needs and holds up great, just wish it was wireless 😅

[@ibapreppie]

Get elite 2 controller

[@tyicbranch2734]

I don't blame you buddy I've had the elite series 2 core for months with no problems at all and I'm having a blast with that controller I actually bought a elite series 1 controller because they are really great and I bought one for £22 and its it's in full working order the bumpers were a wobely but I fixed that

[@TommyT_]

Don't waste your time it WILL have issues out the box

[@tyicbranch2734]

@@TommyT_ mine is still going strong after a few months but a lot of people are having problems witch is strange but I've seen a bunch of videos about a review on the controller and a lot of the boxes was no sealed so that means it was opened before thay got the controller

[@TommyT_]

@@tyicbranch2734 I'm telling you I've had 3 sealed units all have issues before giving up. Had the same with the black elite 2 (which is identical components) I returned 10 of them in total

[@RycoonGalloy]

nah, buy the 8bitdo ultimate bluetooth. Hall effect sticks means no drifting, ever, no dead zone, and also works on everything. Plus it’s only $70

[@Madblaster6]

I have a white Elite V1 and I love the look without the grips. I also have an original V2 and the tension adjustments is the best part.

[@SoundToxin]

I think it'd need hall effect sticks and gyro for me to want one, but I do like the case with built-in charging and the color customization. I don't care about how well-supported Xbox controllers are. That's primarily been an issue on Windows and maybe macOS (and isn't nearly as bad as it used to be). I think a DualShock 4 would also work on all the same stuff you listed, probably a DualSense too. The Linux kernel has support for all sorts of controllers and has for a long time. I was playing Euro Truck Simulator 2 with a Wii U Pro Controller like a decade ago. I also prefer the Nintendo button layout, but it sounds like you can remap the buttons on the Elite controller to mimic that probably. Microsoft has been avoiding getting on the gyro train, but they were also the last to put Bluetooth in their controllers, so I think there's still a chance they'll come around. I can't imagine playing shooters with an analog stick after seeing how well gyro works in Splatoon. It's very close to being as good as keyboard and mouse. We'd probably see more games adopt gyro aiming as an option if Xbox controllers supported it.

[@domincwild]

These are the best controllers I've ever used. And they also have the record for the fastest breaking controller. I don't even use mine intensively. A couple hours a day, then the bumpers become unresponsive. It was always the bumpers for me. Lots of other people report tonnes of other issues with buttons and etc. For something so expensive, it shouldn't be this fragile. Unless you want to juggle these things on a warranty, I would not get one unless they fix the build quality issues.

[@ooooswain]

Get a dualsense it's better

[@valkiron11]

@@ooooswain Shut up, pony

[@alclab]

Same thing happened to me. It's always the bumpers.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

@@ooooswain dualsense should have used double cells instead of internal battery, seriously what an outdated way to play.

[@EbonyPope]

Exactly. Had stick drift after a few plays of Cyberpunk. Send it back. Until Microsoft is putting some hall effect sticks in them I'm not buying them again. They feel amazing however.

[@ParanoidThalyyMVS]

0:24 The Dualshock 4, DualSense and, Switch's Pro Controller also work seemingless across all the platforms listed here.

[@TfloYT]

Yes, but the DualShock 4 has other major issues involving some platforms

[@TheGentleCreepers]

*GAMING JESUS!*

[@miyazakifanthegrandweasel2328]

GAMING JESUS!!

[@Jeno_Sinatra]

*GAMING JESUS!*

[@ak_rblx]

Amen 🙏 lmao

[@dru1572]

Don’t compare this bum to Jesus

[@baconatorrodriguez4651]

He doesn't look like a short Middle Eastern dude.

[@4horsemenoftheapocalypse58]

I love the Xbox controller but it doesn't have gyro aim so u have a big disadvantage when going PC players online. "Just use a KB&M" KBM doesnt have analog inputs

[@TamperSwitch]

As someone who bought into the controller early (day one) and have tried out many third party options I can confidently say the series 2 elite controller is the best all around and the controller I go back to time and time again. I’ve tried hex, I’ve tried scruff, they’re good, but the elite series 2 is remains great and best on the market in my opinion. The only thing you have to look out for is quality control but from what I can see it’s been better since the initial launch.

[@MV-ri7zu]

So you havent even tried razer? Lol

[@10secondsrule]

If you are on pc steam controller is the best option. Period. Had mine for years now and it's still working flawlessly. Better than mouse and kb. No gyro is a massive downside for any controller.

[@adam7802]

@@10secondsrule unfortunately its discontinued, otherwise I wouldn't be here haha!

[@Rebe-Caufman]

Apex 4 is better ,way more better

[@epicfun2]

As good as the Xbox Elite controller is, I can't help but use a Dualsense/Dualshock 4 for most pc games because of the added benefit of gyro and the touchpad. Admittedly, the touchpad doesn't get used all that often, but the gyro is perfect for emulators like Dolphin and Citra and FPS games.

[@LongBeach88]

Gyro is for casuals who are ass leakage at aiming. Gimmick wii bs.

[@igormoraes1327]

@@LongBeach88 it's impossible to have the same aim with stick-only compared to stick + gyro.

[@basedgodkyon]

@@LongBeach88Objectively wrong

[@InfernoDelta12]

Definitely gonna create a custom one. I don’t want to wear out my halo one any more than I have. It really is gorgeous in person. I’ll probably just use the paddles from the halo one though cause they aren’t anything special really.

[@bobbytaylor6363]

@10:34 you said you can't change the color under the sticks. You actually can but it's not obvious just like the extra joysticks color options weren't obvious. They have (I think) black, gold, silver, and grey. I have a first gent elite 2 and I'm so so so tempted to get a color personalized one so I've been spending a lot of time on the website and didn't realize you can change the color under the sticks until recently

[@realduox]

if you like controllers that last 3 months this is the one to get.

[@JaySut]

Bro I like your set up. Felt like you and me chillin in my living room and you talking to me about this controller

[@bobbytaylor6363]

His content is so good

[@subermario]

I bought an elite series 2 for my steam deck setup. Good ergonomics, but feels a little on the small side. When using with the Deck I kept getting dropped inputs on the A button. I thought it was just me, but upon researching online, lots of other people have been going through microsoft support and multiple RMAs with the similar face button issues. I returned mine and decided I would avoid that headache.

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

(Around 0:20) Remember Any Bluetooth Controller, yes includes Xbox, can work with the Nintendo Switch thanks to the "Switch-Up Game Enhancer" or 8-bitdo Bluetooth Adapter. Both only cost $15-$20 iirc

[@ashishgup]

I was a xbox controller user until I switched to Dualsense for PC this year, not just PS5. Few reasons: - It has gyro. I know many folks don't think its a big deal but its a game changer for FPS games, especially if you are playing on TV. Way better than just joysticks. Xbox refuses to innovate there. And you can get pretty good with gyro after a few hours of practice. And the FPS game doesn't need to support gyro, so that's awesome (thanks to Steam Input). You can play old school or new FPS games on TV with gyro, it feels great! - Joysticks are way better calibrated. You can do a test or find tests online showing the difference. My performance in Rocket League is actually better with Dualsense - Input lag: Lookup xbox input lag vs dualsense input lag. Inexplicably, dual sense wireless lag is lower than wired, and beats xbox controller's wireless lag by a lot. like 5ms vs 18-20 ms. I think this is one of the reasons I play better on Rocket league too. - chargeable. I can't fathom how microsoft sticks to AA batteries even today. - That trackpad is actually usable via steam input. This is useful mostly in more complex games so doesn't apply to many gamers. But you can find ready made gaming profiles on Steam which makes it nice. - of course, if you have a PS5 too, it has many other benefits. But you don't need a PS5 to benefit from a dualsense controller. Steam supports it out of the box, no other software needed! I hope someone can make a good video showing all these because Sony has developed an amazing controller and it deserves all the recognition!

[@Claytonation]

who the hell keeps batteries going like Microsoft, pretty sure most gamer kids don't know where battery bins are in the community anyways haha

[@bigshoots1181]

Part of me wants ps5 to do offset thumbsticks or the option but it's nbd at all.

[@whentheyD]

switched to dualsense for a year. pita to clean out, sold it, switched back to ds4, used the money to buy the USB-C mod. never need another controller again

[@Val_Ten]

I have elite controller v2 BUT it doesn’t have gyro aiming and that’s really crucial for all FPS games which support controller just partially! It’s huge disadvantage to ps4. Usually partly supported games do not have any aim assist at all and here gyro kicks in pretty well

[@Val_Ten]

Those games like warhammer vermintide or dark tide are easy to play with controller but really lack of aim assist and hence gyro control

[@MegaOverclocked]

All this time of owning the Elite 2 I never knew you could adjust the stick Tension. I always found myself going back to the new series controller because I felt my Elite was too loose.

[@joewhitlow5799]

Are you serious

[@Akuxz]

What did you think the little pin inside the case was? 🤣

[@00_187]

sometimes ignorant people have way too much money to spend

[@Trapgranny64]

This controller has the worst reliability, I’ve had 2 broken out of the box 😂

[@rettznom6387]

I also had 2 broken out of the box. They've had horrible quality control with these.

[@ShadyPaperclips]

third party controllers always have better QC than first party ones for some reason 😂😂

[@HonkeyKong54]

Sure

[@mobilePCreviews]

Agreed, nobody should buy these.

[@Suge765]

@@mobilePCreviews what do you recommend?

[@maxducoudray]

The thing that kills me is that the paddles can't be mapped to non-controller inputs. For Xbox, this doesn't matter. But as a PC controller, all I want is to map those as four *additional* inputs. But they can only clone the existing standard inputs of a normal controller to a new position. Steam Deck really highlights how awesome this functionality is.

[@greenjp779]

You can try rewasd. It has a free three day trial and is really simple to use. however I don't believe that's the controller's fault, many games just aren't developed for mixed inputs and if it's an fps game then you'll probably lose your aim assist (if you do play with it, I know it's optional and some people don't like it anyway). There's also ds4windows for free but imo it's an extremely unintuitive software, but the trouble only comes in when you start setting up gyro with mixed inputs or flickstick

[@Dwarrelpoot]

Agreed. Really want to use the paddles for more Diablo inputs and it’s disheartening that I can’t.

[@aaa7810]

You can do it on pc with the steam firmware. But with it installed you can't use the paddles on xbox and it'll nag you to update the firmware if you use it on there

[@Level1Sword]

The timing for this video is odd. I've just started hearing about the very high failure rate the Elite controllers have. Like, within the last couple of weeks, lol.

[@R04D3X]

I mean I've heard of a ton of drift issues with these so unless it has hall sensors now I doubt it's DEFINITELY the best

[@ThisisCitrus]

Its very very much not, it's great for the first month maybe two, but then issues start showing up. Check out the channel Cuda for indepth controller breakdowns.

[@ShadyPaperclips]

unfortunately i don't think we'll ever get hall effect sticks on consoles although for PC gamers there's already options in the market that make them way better than any MS offerings

[@Nichrysalis]

I saw a video a long time ago that recommended the elite 2 controller conditionally: they recommended getting it if you could get it with the warranty if you were a heavy duty gamer because the warranty was affordable and covered near everything for 3 years. I actually did that and when the first one experienced issues I got a new one with the warranty and I have been cycling them in and out of getting repaired ever since. Hefty price to pay upfront for sure, but there are two heavy duty gamers in my house including me, and only needing these two controllers, repairs taking only a week to turn around has actually turned out to save me money in the long run.

[@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

I paid for that warranty that they no longer offer other than through best buy and they just kept my controller and are acting like they never received it. Been without a controller for a month now. Terrible fucking experience lol.

[@Mis73rRand0m]

Any news on if the analogs are still the same units as the base controller? I don't want to buy an Elite until it can work for a whole decade like OG xbox/360 analogs.

[@Nick-cs4oc]

Same as base. They don’t have different analogs. You will be lucky to get a year out of it tbh. But I think that’s how long the warranty is now

[@basedgod5223]

A year? Thats how fast they get drift? Why so much faster than a normal one?

[@Mis73rRand0m]

There's widely accepted speculation that the ones packaged with xbox's themselves are of higher quality due to the "lifetime" warranty. I've only killed bumpers on recent gens. "Off the shelf" controllers don't even last me 6 months. I bought a PowerA pro or whatever and have used it for over a year, killed a trigger hinge but fixed that with some super glue and a strip of metal - no complaints otherwise. I don't even care about warranties; if my controller breaks within a year and then takes a month to be warranty swapped - for the same model with the same failure potential... well I might as well plan to have spare parts to do the job myself.

[@Mis73rRand0m]

Oh and not sure if it's shared with the elite, but the latest gen bumper design is atrocious... guaranteed to fail within a few months. I've compared it to previous gens and the armature that actuates the buttons is flimsy and long; any hard use or excessive dust will either grind it to a halt or break the tip off altogether.

[@basedgod5223]

ya the new controller we got has a busted bumper after only a few months i hate it

[@sirflappington2484]

I'm using the Gulikit KingKong 2 Pro controller, or the rebranded Zen Pro wireless, same controller. It's basically an Xbox controller but it can do the older D input not just the X input, can do android and ios, and nintendo switch, since it was designed with the switch in mind. It has hall effect joysticks and hall effect analog triggers, programable macros, can sense amiibos etc. I love the controller. Some people have complained about quality control, but I've had no problems with it. Maybe not for everyone, but a definite contender.

[@ratzyukar]

I love the whole "If you're going to hell for one sin, might as well just commit to all of em" energy of this video, although I will never buy such a thing because hotdamn, my poor wallet, I always love seeing the whole "walkthrough" of these... "niche?" things.

[@alderoth01]

The elite II's X, y, B, a buttons can get stuck under the faceplate. I have three, THREE, that all have the same problem, ordered this year. The Razer Wolverine Chroma is much better.

[@Ozzianman]

If there was an Elite controller with leveled sticks, HAL effect joysticks and gyro as I play on PC and use gyro for aiming, I might have actually bought one as I am in the market for an extra controller. Best controller I have owned is the 8bitdo SN30 Pro+ (Succeeded by Pro 2). It works well on my PC, it works well on my Nintendo Switch and I like how it feels in my hand while playing. Only issue I got with it are weak haptics, but I can deal with that.

[@baconriot]

Polling rate cap makes microsoft controllers inferior for competitive play. I was an xbox roller purist since halo 2/3; however, i'm now using a dual sense. With OC, I'm playing with 7+ms less input delay and more accurate outer thresholds on the joysticks. Also i went through two elites and three elite 2s in only a couple years. They feel good in hand, but have joystick and bumper breakdown issues just like the regular controllers.

[@terrencevitali]

I'm curious if these thumbsticks are any different from the Elite Series 2. I have returned five or six of them and they all have the same stick click issue. It's hard to describe but the L3 and R3 just won't click when the sticks are tilted in certain directions. Each one seems to behave differently, the "non-click" point will land in a different spot on each controller. I think it has to do with the stick tension mechanism so I don't anticipate these to be any different.

[@beautepley8352]

The rubber grips are a game changer IMO. I love them. On your elite controller, I love that you change the color of the xbox color. That's a nice touch.

[@greenprotag]

I own an elite Gen 2 as well as a King Kong Pro 2. They get pretty much equal use. One is in my living room and the other one is connected to my desktop PC. I feel like the joystick experience is very similar and might actually be better on the kkp2. Both controller experiences are very similar however because I don't really use the paddles. I use both controllers mostly to play first person shooter games but I occasionally also play third person RPGs.

[@yarbles66]

The sticks will definitely be better on the KKP2 as theyre hall effect. The8bitdo ultimate uses the exact same ones

[@Empty12345]

Though King kong 2 pro has a significant latency issue. No idea how you didn't notice that.

[@yarbles66]

@@Empty12345 your 'thought'? You actually used one?

[@Empty12345]

@@yarbles66 I meant to write 'though', apologies. I've made research about the controller, because I was thinking about buying it, but didn't because of major latency.

[@yarbles66]

@@Empty12345 don't buy the KK2. Get the 8bitdo Ultimate Wireless- Bluetooth version - also includes 2.4hz USB adapter. The 2.4hz only version does not have the hall sticks, which is the draw of the KK2. They use the exact same hall sticks as the KK2, but the controller is overall better.

[@johnnymeans356]

Just got the new 8bitdo ultimate Bluetooth. Getting Hall effect sticks on a $70 controller, imo, disqualifies anything without them from being worth a premium price. Then there's the gyro controls and included charger.

[@Tonicwine999]

I love my Elite 2 controller and think the paddles are perfect... or at last I have adapted to where I think they are perfect. The only thing I'd like now is if they would use hall effect sensors instead, that would def tip me over the edge. I do have a slight bit of stick drift on one analog but I guess every controller I have ever had gets stick drift at some point

[@Godl1ked]

Compatibility is one thing. Hall sensor controllers that never wear out is another. Before using the word "best" you might wanna check up with the dictionary.

[@PeakKissShot]

No gyro is an instant dealbreaker

[@Timmyval123]

@Fionn MacCuill You can't play a lot of Nintendo games without gyro. Mainly for me, breath of the wild. Aiming without it is just awful. Also, it's not an expensive part, for the price it should be included Dual shock three has more tech than this thing like come on.

[@Timmyval123]

@Fionn MacCuill also valid. I suppose xbox has gotten by not having it for this long.

[@ricodagami4471]

Great review. I just bought a DUALSENSE and really enjoying it with the added haptics and adaptive trigger. The best!

[@Tron08]

The only thing that STILL sucks about the Xbox controller is the lack of gyro. I can take/leave rechargeable batteries, touch pads, HD rumble, or whatever. But the lack of gyro aiming really makes it feel a gen behind.

[@monsterdav3004]

Who uses gyro in a controller in reality? its nonsense and useless. its not a wiimote

[@Tron08]

@@monsterdav3004 If you've not used gyro aim for precision adjustments then you don't know what you're missing. The sticks get you in the neighborhood but the gyro will let you nudge it towards a headshot. Far from useless and clearly we're not talking about Wiimote waggling (though incidently the wiimote pointer is nearly as good as a mouse for aiming)

[@Marko-ij4vy]

@@Tron08 You mean you use controller when playing shooter on pc? Why wouldnt you just use mouse and keyboard which is superior to any controller or gyro aiming? And I use controller on pc too but I use it for games where controller use is prefered such as fighting games action/adventure games etc. I could care less about gyro aiming (on pc that is) if I play shooters with keyboard and mouse anyway.

[@Tron08]

@@Marko-ij4vy Frankly because these days I sit at a computer all day and when I play games I'd often prefer to sit on a couch, and having tried to use a KB/M on a couch it is simply a bad experience. And on top of that not every system I'd like to play supports a keyboard and mouse. And twitch shooters aren't the only genre that requires aiming. (Think bow/arrow in Breath of the Wild). Lastly, just because you do not use a feature of a controller (because you supplement with an entirely different input device) does not mean it's useless.

[@Marko-ij4vy]

@@Tron08 I game both on nintendo switch an pc. I use pro controller on switch which has gyro by default. Not saying gyro is useless because I use it when gaming on switch. For that I use switch pro controller. On pc I game with xbox controller if I dont use mouse and keeyboard. As I said i dont care for gyro when gaming on pc whereas other consoles like switch have it by default. Certainly not a dealbreaker if controller I use for pc doesnt have gyro.

[@benjamingardner5277]

I've had my Elite V2 for about 18 months. Best controller I've ever had. However, Microsoft clearly skimped on some components. Which is not what you want when spending around $200 on a controller. A common problem is the bumper buttons stop working correctly. Which is unfortunately what has happened to mine. Every time I press the right bumper I have nearly even odds on it either not working, double pressing, or working as intended.

[@johnmcafee9663]

im reading comments over xbox and ps5 controllers and everyone reports some type of failure 6 months down the line no matter of the version of any type of controller, some had problems on day 1, in my experience the last time i used a controller was when i had a ps3 and i went through more than 7 controllers in that time and vowed never to use playstation again which i havnt, it seems with all these failures being so common it would make more sense to buy a third party for as cheap as 20 which is what i did 6 months ago, sure one of the sticks started drifting within about a month, but i could buy 10 of them lasting me 10 months as apposed to buying the elite controller for 20 more and it break in 1 month, anything over 100 that doesnt last more than 3 years isnt worth the price and is unacceptable in my opinion

[@Nopal_ku]

Yes, but it has motion controls?

[@aroh]

Actually use it though before you recommend it. I bought the Series 2 and 8 months of usage, the RB button stopped working and at the 12 month mark both joysticks got stick drift. My Xbox One controller that I've used since 2018 hasn't given me any issues so far, which is absurd since I payed a premium for the Elite and it barely lasted. As much as I loved the feel of the Elite in my hands and the back paddles, it just isn't worth the money whatsoever.

[@youngsterben3175]

I really regret buying a custom elite 2 after watching this video. Out of the box I'm having issues with the A button not registering, and the X button sticking. I looked at the options for warranty repair and it states that they can just send me a completely different controller back as part of the process in whatever color they have on hand. So I paid >$200 dollars for a controller with faulty face buttons (which even a $10 knock off controller should have zero issues with), and if I send it in for repairs they can't even guarantee that I they don't just throw my custom engraved controller in the trash and send me a base model back? Never again will I buy a microsoft product.

[@Brandon-dq3vx]

Hopefully they worked out the shoulder button problem where it just refuses to work after a pretty short time

[@JbrockPony]

Watching this video made me realize my obsession for well designed controllers. I almost want this one now 😅

[@TilPlays]

I've had 2 Elite controllers. The first one got stick drift after a year. The second one got stick drift after 2 years. My OG Xbox One controller still works perfectly. I can't commit to spending a ton of money on another paperweight.

[@rettznom6387]

I'd stay far away from Xbox's Elite controllers. They've had serious QC issues from the start. I had 2 arrive with defective thumbsticks, and one that only worked for like 5 or 6 months with light use. A real shame because in my opinion this is possibly the best controller on the market... when it works.

[@aramyth]

I've had my Elite since it came out and still use it without issue

[@rvreqTheSheepo]

I'm happy with my own Retro Fighters Defender, since it works for all PlayStation consoles up to PS3.

[@GMMReviews]

No Gyro = Worthless.

[@aog_senkai]

The Elite Series II does work with the Nintendo Switch! All you have to do is get one of those cheap and widely available USB dongels from 8bitdo. And not only does the controller work, but it keeps all three profiles and customizations for each. I have mine set up so the first profile has the standard Xbox layout, and the second profile swaps the position of A/B ane X/Y for Switch gaming. And all four paddles works too!

[@ChampagneOppa]

This is the worst controller you can get right now. Period.

[@Jeno_Sinatra]

This is the medium controller you can right now. Period.

[@Kevon5112]

Um why did you click this video for? Jeese playstation or even Nintendo playboy get out

[@ChampagneOppa]

@Kevon5112 my guy you just confirmed you are xbox fanbot.

[@Kevon5112]

@@ChampagneOppa hell nah pc fan boy just finding a controller for cod vanguard

[@ChampagneOppa]

@@Kevon5112 same, i use the 8bitdo controller for single player game. Mouse and keyboard for shooters

[@jasonallen3189]

I just subscribed, I’m part of the Wulff pack so to say, cheesy pun aside, i really like your takes on controllers, i am a controller snob. I will pay to get the goods on controllers, cause we know no one is going to give us deals on these often. I like Scuf’s mouse like triggers better, but everything else is nicer on the elite. I did buy dual sense Edge and while it’s better, it’s still a dual sense and feels bad in my hands and i do not like the overall layout as much as the Xbox setup. Great reviews, love the channel and look forward to seeing what you have in store for what should be a great year in gaming.

[@LunalynDragon]

Nahhh, not even close to best. It's mid tier at most. Maybe I'll change my tune if they add gyro in the future, but I'm not gonna spend anything close to that price for something that technologically inferior.

[@lorddeecee]

Technologically inferior to what?

[@nictimus24]

my brother gave me one Xbox controller on my birthday and honestly it has been the best gift I have received in years, I only play on PC and it works so great

[@thusantharull8774]

Thanks for the review! Any chance you checked the latency of the elite controller? Did it improve or is it still far behind the ps5 controller?

[@ShadyPaperclips]

no, its still behind

[@Blinox1up]

Gyro was the best option in controller its all the best fromgamepad an mouse

[@Ghost19_]

Thought my XBOX One S controller malfunction completely and had to let go - found out I just had to internally clean it and replaced it with a new, overall shell (all parts) and it's all freaking good again. Can't even remember how long it's been with me but it's still my durable, and working controller to date~ 😊

[@Wishmaster145]

i had the controller that came with halo 5 console last for 5 years with really looong and intense gaming, after that any xbox one controller was lucky to go for more than a year with 1/3 of time and half the pressure put on it

[@folksurvival]

This guy has holes in his clothes but is buying custom video game controllers. That's dedication to youtube.

[@johnbryan3846]

I had mine 2 years ago, I have dropped it like 10 times, now it's broken from the sides and has some plastic parts inside that makes noise haha and the only problem I had with it was a button that wasn't responding, so I send the controller to microsoft with the regular warranty for 2 years, they fix it and it came back, cleaner and perfect again. And this from a regular use like 3 hours per day.

[@jarroddonaldson1975]

On pc the input lag on Xbox controller is bad compared to ps4/ps5 controller and thats what matters the most to me unfortunately. The compatibility and input lag for the latest Xbox controller has been the worst I would make sure I got a Xbox one/360 controller if I were to ever go back to to Xbox controller

[@bobbytaylor6363]

If you go wired problem solved though I've never noticed input lag

[@le4kd944]

I had both a elite, and elite series 2. It really saddened me that the original elite lasted me 2 and a half years and never broke, but then I upgraded to a series 2 and within 2 weeks the stick drift was so awful I just had to toss it because the warranty wouldn’t even work

[@jp_retrospect]

Get a king Kong pro controller. Linus tech tips reviewed it, it’s pretty good. No stick drift cuz it uses Hall effect.

[@n1cw3bst3r]

But how does it compare to the 8bitdo ultimate and pro 2? Especially from the perspective of a pc user that would have no issues using Xbox or 8bitdo

[@bobbytaylor6363]

I have both and both are good for different reasons. I wouldn't use the 8bitdo pro for Call of Duty and I wouldn't use the Elite 2 for Animal Crossing

[@Keblash]

I picked up 2 for parts elite controllers on ebay a few months ago for like $80. Fixed them both, sold one for $100 and kept the other. Still haven't used it months later haha.

[@anderspaulsson]

In my country xbox desig lab charges $195 for the elite series 2(full model) with all extras, name, designs etc. Could be worth checking out other countries design lab pages to save money

[@chawa623]

I've been owning a XBox Elite 2 controller for about 2 years now n been loving it ever since I started using it n after sum button customization, loved it even more, I may have payed a hefty price for it 2 years ago but no regrets

[@JohnHolzer]

Fantastic review! If I buy this controller, it's because it's Bob Wulff recommended. I have a few custom Xbox controllers, and they've all been awesome.

[@divanshu5039]

As a Keyboard and Mouse user my whole life, I'm amazed that even after paying premium you guys still get an old analog stick. But for those who want to use the controller I strongly suggest GuliKit KingKing 2, It use magnetic sensors instead of potentiometers, which means they are more accurate and durable. This is the only controller anyone should ever buy. Unless some other company started using the new sticks.

[@HemiHentai]

8ms delay on xbox

[@bubmario]

Man, I've used my elite controller v1 a lot and I haven't encountered any peeling or issues with the quality that people talk about breaking down. It's one of my fav controllers.

[@chease9132]

I found an elite series 2 (the black one that comes with all the accessories) at Walmart with a sticker on the shelf that read $76.97. I double checked with an employee to make sure that wasn't an error, and it was legit. Got an elite series 2 for just about 80 bucks. The elite series 2 core was right next to it for full price

[@igobytony]

I love my Elite V2. Was worried, but no issues so far. Only had it about 7 months though, so we'll see.

[@santilol5687]

i recommend using the 8bitdo ultimate, its like the xbox controller but better bc works with nintendo switch

[@wcbgcpetere1]

The "WHAT!?!?!?" "Oh my God" on the ad read 😂😂😂😂😂

[@alexadelaide]

Bob’s not the controller guy, he’s the CUSTOMISATION GUY

[@officegossip]

I agree with the first sentiment and I don’t even own an Xbox. Also, offset dual analog placement is objectively more ergonomic for your wrists and hands.

[@awe8120]

So does your A-button register as bad as every other Elite 2 controller? Test it in Xbox Accessories app and notice the inconsistent registrations. The Core is still flawed.

[@rickmartinez4130]

The Brook XOne adapter has been the best investment I've made for the elite controller. Solid on the Switch, lag is negligible for me.

[@bahamutbbob]

Remember, if you go for the non-Design Lab version of the Core, it is $10 more if you buy the accessory pack later.

[@malobuchino]

you make one of the most visually pleasing videos on the platform also damn you for making me spend extra 200€ this Christmas for an elite series 2 lab controller..

[@duckhead014]

If not for the horrible QC issues, I would agree. I went through two of the OG xbox elite series 2 and in both, the R1 just doesn't work! My 8bitdo controllers with way more hours, and even my series 1 elite have never given up on me. both of my elite series 2 broke within 1 year of generally light use...

[@itsnotniccage]

I got a custom Elite 2 and I LOVE it. I got it in purple, teal, and bright green. It looks SICK.

[@1voJan]

i bought the gen2 elite 2 years ago on amazon for 120€ and i couldnt be happier with it, i also used it with my switch via a dongle

[@dipperstan8226]

You are not just the controller guy you are 'controller jesus'

[@mograin_]

Also really love the new studio and filming setup!

[@dfox20]

To be fair, I use my PS5 controller on everything even on my PC games new and older. With a modded switch you can actually choose to use other types of controllers as well technically so be it Xbox or PS5 controller.

[@Gaijinski]

This all is premium feeling and yada yada, BUT: 1) Bumpers are the the weakspot and can crack through some time 2) The body is glued so -1 point for the maintainability Anyhow, thanks for the video, Bob!