Some strange picks in there, would've gone to more straightforward clones like 'the saboteur', 'the godfather' or even 'The Getaway'
@gearhead4176 күн бұрын
Accepting Spiderman 2 but not Cyberpunk is insane. Cyberpunk has the literal same structure of a GTA game. Even down to getting missions on your phone. And then for Greg to come out with Lego Batman and all the stuff it has which is also in Cyberpunk. Like come one. Justice for Blessing.
@littleleafers5 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@shannabul12 сағат бұрын
no. its quest based. Earning xp, skill tree points, abilities. If fallout had cars would that make it a gta clone too
@gearhead41712 сағат бұрын
@shannabul GTA also has quests. Sure Cyberpunk has skills and talents but that's doesn't make it not a GTA clone. It literally does everything GTA does.
@StillChewy7 күн бұрын
Spider-Man 2 being a GTA clone is insane. You don't do crimes, you don't pick up guns, you don't drive vehicles... It's not even close. Great vid tho!
@LowSkillPlays6 күн бұрын
Technically you're an unlicensed vigilante beating people up so Spider-man is a criminal doing crimes lol. He's a menace!
@StillChewy6 күн бұрын
@LowSkillPlays Found J. Jonah Jameson's alt.
@gumgumleobazooka6 күн бұрын
It absolutely was described as a GTA clone back in the day if you were talking about the game. It was originally how people described essentially an open sandbox game. “It’s like GTA 3/San Andreas”. Edit: worth noting I don’t agree with some of the calls in this one. My criteria isn’t as strict as others seemingly.
@StillChewy6 күн бұрын
@gumgumleobazooka you also had a lot less games back then and certainly a lot less open world sandbox games. Sure, it could've been a GTA clone twenty years ago, but I don't think it fits that description in 2024. I will say that NOT allowing Cyberpunk is much more egregious than allowing Spider-Man for sure lol.
@gumgumleobazooka6 күн бұрын
@@StillChewyyea definitely a head scratcher on some of those decisions haha. Fair point though on the ever evolving definition.
@J_Tevo6 күн бұрын
Spider-man 2 is okay, but Cyberpunk isn't... what are we doing here?
@thewhitewolf49687 күн бұрын
Justice for Cyberpunk 2077 !!! But of course spiderman 2 gets in -.-
@impomars7 күн бұрын
Cyberpunk 2077 does pretty much anything a gta does but because it introduces MORE means its not a clone???
@ornamentalpotato6 күн бұрын
Bless got absolutely hosed with cyberpunk. It is 100% a GTA clone. Ask Tim Rogers. You steal cars. There's a wanted system. The point Greg makes is way off.
@EXxileOnline7 күн бұрын
No way in hell is Spider-Man 2 a GTA clone 😂 Mike definitely won this
@ChiTwnKid967 күн бұрын
not gonna lie when he first said it my mind went to new one 😂
@bendecidospr6 күн бұрын
For Bless to question Crackdown and Bully, but chose Spider-Man 2 is crazy.
@CheefChaos7 күн бұрын
Shout out to the PlayStation Classic "The Getaway" Being able to regenerate health while in cover was a game changer.
@thewhitewolf49687 күн бұрын
not only that, he leans in. takes a deep breath and it begins hhah
@realrobrose7 күн бұрын
"The genre popularized by the 2001 title GTA 3 where players are given the ability to drive any vehicle or fire any weapon as they explore an open world, noted for frequently bearing strong violent or criminal themes" But somehow Cyberpunk isn't that because it has skill trees
@Baytuh7 күн бұрын
Sleeping Dogs is my favorite one. Such a shame what happen to the devs.
@MrJackBlackCat7 күн бұрын
The Spider-Man 2 one is ridiculous. If that’s a GTA clone then every open world game is a GTA clone. For me it has to be Open world Most vehicles are drivable Can commit crimes
@StartMenuChannel6 күн бұрын
There’s no way bless drafted spider man but wants to veto crackdown. THIS EPISODE IS MAKING ME GO INSANE
@realrobrose7 күн бұрын
Bless totally could've sawed his foot off to get out of the Cyberpunk trap, but didn't want it bad enough
@ErikR687 күн бұрын
How did no one pick The Getaway?
@fabioarapi10437 күн бұрын
Exactly what I thought. Insane
@Inkadu.6 күн бұрын
Nobody has brought up LA Noire, that should 100% be on the list!
@OR3OTHUG6 күн бұрын
Mike brought it up at the beginning
@rakibul27rabby6 күн бұрын
Two of my favorites that y'all didn't talk about: 1. Gun (it was GTA but western 5 years before RDR) 2. Godfather The Game (GTA but the story is the first Godfather movie)
@philbarton28324 күн бұрын
Am I crazy but wasn't 'Gun' first person?
@jamess52873 күн бұрын
Am I crazier, but wasn't it both third and first person?
@philbarton28323 күн бұрын
@@jamess5287 I had to check cuz it was bugging me, it is third person but goes into first person when you enter "quick draw" mode
@OR3OTHUG6 күн бұрын
Crazy that Barrett had to explain how bully was a gta clone
@xcalicojack4 күн бұрын
Just because the developer said that they ripped off GTA3 for Spiderman 2 doesn't actually mean that it's a GTA clone. He literally says that he took the idea of the open world system to make Spiderman 2, but that's it. He named drops GTA3 because at the time the interview was made, GTA3 was the only Open World game, or at least the one that did it right. If the same interview was made today, he wouldn't even name drop GTA, he would just say that Spiderman 2 took inspiration from open world games. So if Spiderman 2 is on this list, then what you're saying is ANY open world game is a GTA clone, which we all know isn't true. Also, the open world of Spiderman 2 is the only thing that it has in common with GTA, nothing else. In conclusion, Spiderman 2 is an open world game, but It is not a GTA clone.
@ShotoStephen6 күн бұрын
Crazy how they didn't recommend the best Tiny Desk, Mac Miller
@travix74547 күн бұрын
they didnt pick the godfather games wild
@TheDC916 күн бұрын
Yes! What a game!
@maxxruiz15976 күн бұрын
Nine Inch Nails is doing the soundtrack for the next Tron movie
@ProtoPunk6 күн бұрын
Blessing questioning Bully while picking Spider-Man 2 is CRAZY lol.
@shutuppabs3233 күн бұрын
Y’all laughed at Mike for suggesting Mad Max? But blessing sitting on spider man 2? Wild guys. Wild, wild.
@StartMenuChannel6 күн бұрын
If we are including rockstar games the list should be: 1. Red dead 2 2. Saints row 2 3. True crime streets of LA 4. Mafia 2
@Shrewdy16 күн бұрын
Barrett was the only one making sense with Spiderman 2, that was an absolutely insane take from Blessing, and Greg is worse for encouraging him. Sure the dev said they ripped off elements of GTA - this was the early 00s when these sort of open world games were in their infancy, they were probably just referring to this major part they took inspiration from. But play both games and anybody sane will tell you that Spiderman 2 isn't a "GTA clone"
@parker24904 күн бұрын
Blessing is legit insane, claims Spider-Man 2 then tries to vito Crackdown AND Bully!!!! Y'all might need to check if he was kicked by a mule at some stage
@DereckLarge7 күн бұрын
Not being allowed to play GTA as a kid, I got my fix from Spiderman 2 and Jak 2.
@stanco4ever5 күн бұрын
Jak 2 (and 3?) were great! 100% a clone but with a fun IP/platformer wrapping
@Jack-Ralph6 күн бұрын
For me it has to be: Able to use multiple weapons Able to drive multiple vehicles Open world Missions Wanted System
@cherrygarcia23107 күн бұрын
lmfao the way blessing looked at the cam while watching the video
@mattgrover91358 сағат бұрын
Cyberpunk is basically a first-person GTA. Justice for Blessing.
@durp3124 күн бұрын
Mike gives the best daps. I really appreciate that👊🏾
@corywalsh29554 күн бұрын
10 years is fucking wild man. Doesn’t feel like it at all. Great shit boys and girls
@AlPacino25022 күн бұрын
Loving the gamescasts lately. Great job blessing and mike
@maddoggnick967 күн бұрын
This is KFG Vol. 3, Episode 157 (Episode 641 overall)
@dcreate3 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas, love you all ❤
@Apocalyptic-RadioКүн бұрын
Wow….no mention of The Saboteur, Just Cause, Mercenaries 2, or even Red Faction Guerrilla is wild
@gyarbКүн бұрын
I lived around the corner from United Front Games in Vancouver in 2011 and I walked in with no experience just out of college and left my resume with reception.
@islandonlinenews6 күн бұрын
Y’all are sleeping on Goat Simulator 3!
@Abefroman3Күн бұрын
We deserved a Sleeping Dogs 2 so good for a first try. Sequel could have been really special.
@zacharyperez68544 күн бұрын
I was originally listening to this on Apple podcast but I had to come here to say two things. 1. I was sitting here waiting for anyone to say cyberpunk and the fact that it got vetoed immediately is absolutely insane. Blessing should have fought a lot harder for that. 2. We could remember wheelman (which I absolutely wanna give props for) but no one bringing up mercenaries 2 is wild.
@michaelknight84986 күн бұрын
How have we not had a Kinda Funny ranks GTA games?
@dakotaallen56727 күн бұрын
I feel like an insane person, is CP2077 really not a GTA clone? I really cannot see an argument for that. If you play GTA5 in 1st person its nearly the same game.
@wyrmslayer19917 күн бұрын
Absolutely an insane person lol. Comparing GTA to any real first person game just because GTA has a first person camera is definitely crazy. If you really can’t feel the difference between GTA’s jank and literally anything else, that definitely says a lot about your discernment.
@dakotaallen56727 күн бұрын
@wyrmslayer1991 your comment suggests that because GTA has a certain kind of jank there are no GTA clones?
@dakotaallen56727 күн бұрын
@wyrmslayer1991 also dont know how you got me comparing Cyberpunk to GTA JUST BECAUSE of first person. If my discernment is in question, your reading comprehension is inarguably bad.
@RedSpy477 күн бұрын
It's really not the same game at all? Cyberpunk is a story driven RPG. It has a vast amount of dialogue choices, a skill system, a combat system that involves much more depth than just choosing a weapon on a wheel. GTA is a crime sandbox game where you at most make 2-3 diverging story choices. Is Cyberpunk similar to Saints Row or Mafia as well in your opinion? Just look at the launch state of the wanted system in Cyberpunk. It was not at all designed for you to treat the game as a crime sim. Cops spawned behind you, they didn't engage in actual chases, & killing of civilians is more of a personal choice of gameplay rather than an result of how the game is designed like I would consider GTA is. They updated the game due to the amount of post launch complaints saying it wasn't "cyberpunk GTA" when that was never how it was presented. People saw a city + guns and wanted it to be that game.
@dakotaallen56727 күн бұрын
@RedSpy47 to me, all of the RPG elements you included in that first part are improvements and I could easily see most of it included in GTA6. They are of course beyond GTA5, and of course Cyberpunk is not a GTA clone in the same way that Saints is. But I think the core of it, sandbox world focused around a city with a heavy emphasis on vehicles, a story focused on criminal enterprise, doing missions involving driving and gunfights, make it a GTA clone for the sake of something like this podcast. I also think your note on the police spawns is irrelevant. That was poor programming due to releasing an unfinished game that they have since corrected, it was not intended to be a feature of the game and cops were always meant to chase you. The game was not updated because people complained about it not being cyperbunk GTA. It was updated because it was an unfinished game released to meet an arbitrary deadline.
@narcysdope97142 күн бұрын
CYBERPUNK IS LITTERALY GTA. Justice for Blessing, real talk
@offlnegamer6 күн бұрын
Commenting after everybodys first pick, and someone HAS to pick Scarface right? one of the best GTA clones ever, imo.
@Abefroman3Күн бұрын
lol 42:39 Blessing is thinking Spider-Man 2 PS2 is a GTA clone but Crackdown isn’t is Wild
@Claska1174 күн бұрын
Anyone who played The Getaway, knows that’s the winner
@itsWHOM6 күн бұрын
Spiderman 2 was absolutely considered a Spider-man clone at the time. I lived through this era and GTA III was a cultural phenomenon. It isn't just the open world and traversal it is about the DNA. Down to the round mini map with objective markers everywhere and missions. That wasn't a thing before GTA (including the PS1 titles) popularized it. As a kid during that time, the phrase we all threw around was "you can go anywhere and do ANYTHING you want!" And while that didn't include crime, the freedom was still built into it's DNA. And it was also the first 3DvSpider-Man game where you could see the street/touch the ground. And I don't think they would have implemented that if not for GTA. So yes it absolutely was trying to cash in on the craze. My favorite clones from that time were True Crime: Streets of LA and a western game called Gun which was better than Red Dead Revolver (not redemption)
@adcast984 күн бұрын
Shout out to the guy who shouted out Laura Jane Grace’s tiny desk
@SnoeManProductions4 күн бұрын
The Godfather is like the most requested game for a remaster over the years.. wild it’s not on here
@christopherburnett88894 күн бұрын
I agree with blessing 100% on cyberpunk being a gta clone. It’s an open world game, you get missions on your phone like in gta v, you can carjack, it has very similar gameplay mechanics to a gta game…the biggest difference being cyberpunk has a more in-depth rpg system than any gta game but everything else in cyberpunk is definitely similar to gta and there’s even a gta San Andreas reference/nod in cyberpunk 2077. I think they should have let blessing have this one because it fits the criteria and it’s a better game than most of the games others on the show picked.
@NowakP5 күн бұрын
No mention of "The Getaway"? The British, gritty GTA3? That game was a moment in time. Everyone was salivating over those impossibly high quality screenshots. That game might have also started the trend of minimalistic UI. I didn't love it and I don't think it's the best, but it should be in the conversation at least.
@sarajabeen956 күн бұрын
Love this episode! Would love if you guys can do more fun topics like this!!
@LowSkillPlays6 күн бұрын
After listening to the arguments I agree Spider-man 2 on PS2 was definitely a GTA clone, since really we're talking about games that were directly inspired by GTA3. That said so is Cyberpunk
@0Gumpy06 күн бұрын
In general I wouldn't call cyberpunk a GTA clone, but in this context, with the other ones that were allowed, I think it's close enough - relative to Spiderman 2 and Lego Batman haha
@kevinmendez91266 күн бұрын
Mike was the only one with 4 games that were actual gta clones not made by rockstar. Of course he won
@Toval-PH4 күн бұрын
Man that Spider man 2 pick really hurt Bless instead of helping.
@morriswein23866 күн бұрын
I’m surprised Sleeping Dogs wasn’t mentioned in Round1 but Vin Diesel Game and also the 50 Cent Game are both great contenders
@philbarton28324 күн бұрын
Correction: You can drive in Bully, theres a scooter you can drive
@ThisIsNoConcept6 күн бұрын
Cyberpunk 2077 is getting a GTA clone. You can hijack cars and there are radio stations. Blessing was robbed…
@Yourboyeddie4 күн бұрын
I’m in the original Saints Row. I’m the voice on KRhyme FM. Eddie Francis. They never asked me back for the sequels 😢
@cairoabelard96724 күн бұрын
CYBERPUNK 2077 is 100% A GTA CLONE BLESSING ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
@jamiedavies90175 күн бұрын
I can’t believe the Getaway or Getaway 2 were not picked…
@dreams67526 күн бұрын
Mike had the best list
@LowSkillPlays6 күн бұрын
Kinda Funny doing a reacts series to different famous music they haven't listened to would be a good time I think. As for whats a GTA clone I think it should just be open world games that are on the ground and have driving in them and as a major mechanic of traversal.
@LowSkillPlays6 күн бұрын
Black Hole Sun's music video would be a good react lol
@djico964 күн бұрын
Sleeping dogs was internal affairs the video game and I'm here for it
@JohnCain-ic2yq6 күн бұрын
I can’t believe yall forgot about the godfather series
@Abefroman3Күн бұрын
54:07 when do we get a GTA with the kid from Bully grown up ?
@itsaIixgt4 күн бұрын
Can’t wait for GTA VI to add RPG elements to the story and then it’s not counted as a GTA game anymore 💀
@JPlayzCasual6 күн бұрын
Bless hasn’t finished RDR 2 😱
@LowSkillPlays6 күн бұрын
I hope you guys do this for Soulslikes eventually because the debates over if a game is a "Soulslike" would be legendary lmao (God of War 2018)
@SuperAngryWalrus6 күн бұрын
The Getaway, Driver 3.
@kingceez59827 күн бұрын
JID TINY DESK DOPE
@StartMenuChannel6 күн бұрын
I haven’t watched yet but saints row 2 is the only answer. I better not be let down Edit: dammit Mike you fumbled the bag first round
@realadelphstar6 күн бұрын
Cyberpunk should have counted the robbed bless again
@FlipTheUsbTwice6 күн бұрын
Cyberpunk 2077 has a wanted system, radio, grand theft auto..., different weapons, vehicles, crime. Spider-man 2 has... nothing. The only similarities Spider-man 2 shares with GTA is that it's open world.
@9cyph4 күн бұрын
I would have put Cyberpunk 2077 as a GTA Clone.
@JPlayzCasual6 күн бұрын
Crazy that they didn’t put The Godfather on their list
@jcuttyfoe6 күн бұрын
Cyberpunk 100% should count
@TheDC916 күн бұрын
You all missed out by not picking The Godfather game!
@cheesewombatTV6 күн бұрын
Seeing how many people here think Cyberpunk is a GTA clone -- the slander that game had at launch (minus the bugs) makes so much more sense, I guess if you see that and think its a sandbox game then of course youd be mad when it clearly isnt lol.
@arckinenso76156 күн бұрын
Yep, this has been enlightening. They have several similar gameplay ideas and a narrative focus on urban crime. But they also have very different "bones" and come from entirely different lineage of game genres. Of course, modern games and genres have been blurring together, with rpg-elements and such. I guess i can understand young players expecting every game to be an open-world action-adventure-rpg sandbox.
@nickw2517 күн бұрын
no love for Infamous or Mafia Definitely Edition
@124mani4 күн бұрын
How tf is Spiderman a GTA clone? Just because the devs said it served as an inspiration? No guns/no vehicles to hijack. Just because it’s an open sandbox does not qualify for it. Disappointed in that pick blessing (great episode btw)
@JG-pp8cc5 күн бұрын
Blessing was robbed. Cyberpunk2077 should absolutely be on the list. It is way closer to a GTA than a Fallout. There's even carjacking, and a five-star wanted meter.
@androidisaloser6 күн бұрын
Hear me out - Tony Hawk's Underground
@TheDarman5 күн бұрын
I would’ve let Bless have Cyberpunk and not Spider-Man.
@toastedafk32176 күн бұрын
I can’t believe u guys are gonna torcher blessing on live by listening to nine inch nails.. poor guy!
@drewyancey97855 күн бұрын
Crazy there is no cyberpunk
@MovieKiller3335 күн бұрын
Watchdogs 2 by far
@kingceez59827 күн бұрын
Freddie Gibbs tiny desk to
@MerelyMarcos5 күн бұрын
please tell me that they mention sleeping dogs
@wyrmslayer19916 күн бұрын
I personally think the definition is more nuanced than simply “you steal cars and shoot people and the cops come after you” To me, the spirit of a GTA clone is intention. The game was made with the intention that “hey, if you like GTA, you’ll like this!” And in that regard, I can’t see how Cyberpunk could be considered a GTA clone. You can’t take somebody who has only ever played GTA games, give them Cyberpunk, and expect them to have a similar experience. GTA (and most rockstar games) are about a simple, straightforward experience with very little player choice beyond “what color did you want that in?” Every mission in GTA consists of a cutscene, a car ride with dialogue, and a shooting gallery. GTA games are about soaking in a crazy detailed environment with a very basic but well written and directed story. The moment you start trying for anything more than that, you aren’t making a GTA clone anymore. The basic, straightforward nature of the gameplay is a massive aspect of what makes GTA games and their clones what they are. Insomniac’s Spider-Man games are much more in line with GTA than Cyberpunk.
@SoundofaSmirk6 күн бұрын
“Blushing Adeoye Jr.” - when Closer plays
@holddamayo74746 күн бұрын
Scarface for ps2
@spacemanleezy936 күн бұрын
Nobody picked driver? Lol
@KJShinra5 күн бұрын
Cyberpunk is a rpg definitely not a gta clone, these comments outta pocket lol
@Dabbindragon446 күн бұрын
No Just Cause is kind of baffling to me...
@dylanbuc18677 күн бұрын
TIny Desk Rec's: Sabrina Carpenter (came out today its very good!) Juvenile Mac Miller Regina Spektor MuMu Fresh
@YTwoKay6 күн бұрын
If Cyberpunk isn't a GTA derivative, i guess I don't like GTA games. The story and mechanics are all mostly linear with slight deviation.