The BEST HIGH HANDICAP forgiving irons... EVER TESTED!?

[@marvinwatts9722]

I loved the video, seen plenty of reviews of the 225's, this was the first one that shows high HC'ers can play them. More videos should be made by pros with their high HC mates.

[@ericchambers9914]

Enjoyed this format but the most entertaining thing was James not knowing there are 3 feet in a yard. :) I've never really understood why all the UK-based golf channels I watch talk about distance in yards and not meters. I much appreciate it since it avoids me having to convert meters to yards but I've never understood why it is.

[@crispyduck1706]

I’ve never understood why everyone outside the UK abuse meters not yards - weirdos

[@johnrischke1964]

Was going to go for the 225's but chose the 921 Forged instead, very pleased and seeing signs of working down from my 18 handicap.

[@ppham]

I’m about a 6 a handicap and I would game the 225 they’re beautiful and one can never have enough forgiveness haha

[@JeffSSartor]

My issue is the strong lofts.

[@ppham]

@@JeffSSartor they’re forged I believe you could bend the lofts weaker and still get all the forgiveness and match it with the right shafts

[@josiahjones9521]

Why not the 223? A 6 is pretty damn good and you deserve a better iron.

[@ppham]

@@josiahjones9521 I’m torn between the 2 Ill get fitted at club champion this year but I’m playing game improvement clubs now and play a stock baby draw… and I’m unsure how moving to a players club with smaller club head will affect my game yet 🤷🏽‍♂️ do you have an insight?

[@canyonaro]

@@ppham Forget categories. The road to lower scores is choosing whichever irons give you the most consistent carry distance. If you aim at the middle of the green, there's almost always 10 yards of room left or right. But 10 yards short usually means a bunker or pitch shot and 50/50 par at best.

[@skippruitt2391]

I currently play MP-58's, 11 years. I'm leaning towards the Pro 225 love the look, but also need some forgiveness.

[@shmirginhymer1867]

I'm so torn with these irons. I want the head size of the 223. The back design of the 225, and the finish of the 221 😂. May end up getting the 225s. And that's just because I don't love the looks of the 223 backs.

[@davidpannell3031]

If I can somehow be really responsible and frugal next year I'll definitely be going for the 225's. Never had a new set of clubs but they might just be a reason too even at 65yrs young

[@skidbootify]

I'm 57 and have never had new clubs either....still playing Wilson TN-1200 Gear Effect. the 225s.... I will get a fitting though and see what comes from it.

[@matthewshepherd826]

Did you buy the clubs? I hope so!

[@kevinwood1722]

It’s good to see a higher handicap golfer test even though we all love Sprigsy. If you have the cash and love them, go for it. Get fitted though. I would have never bought my 0211s dc if I wouldn’t have got fitted.

[@IamNexu]

Love how the 225 is being described as a high handicap iron. I'm a 5 handicap and the 225's are a little small, thin soled for me. I'm going to buy them because I want to take them on but it's just really, really funny to me that these would be described as "high handicap".

[@jojosaute]

I think its just a different angle to look at it. I came from jpx forged (a little big for my eye) to the mp18 sc ( a little weak and unforgiving but looked amazing) to the 225s just ordered. I'm an 8 but i shot par this past year and also shot an 88. So i sit around 78-80 these days and wanted some help. These were the ticket. Good looks. Great feel and easy to hit.

[@jimmytoucan5699]

How did you end up liking them?

[@wayneboehm5203]

I enjoy seeing the high HC players hitting shots... most people can relate to him.. not everyone is as good as you James... I would like to know how many golfers are in the 12 to 20 HC range compared to your 1 to 2 HC..

[@jdavis2609]

I would love to be in the 12-20 HC range

[@roberthudson3571]

They do look a lovely club. Gaz was talking about em the other day. Nice to see Foxy hit ‘em. I can relate to that. Lol

[@davetipton3]

How do these compare to the Tacomo 101s? Would love to see a comparison of those with anything, or a mid to high handicapper’s take.

[@Clearwater2011]

I have been trying the 921 Forged and want to compare with this 225 before purchasing Thinking of a HiFly 2 Iron as well Playing of 28.5 after a 23 year gap from playing last, got my handicap in August, looking forward to the summer The difference to 30 year old clubs is unbelievable

[@danramproject5655]

I tried both the jpx forged and the 225 and both feel amazing. I went with the 225 because of the looks, but both at address look very similar. 225 looks much smaller but because of the design, since I don’t think they are that much bigger. Both great irons, but went with 225 because they look gorgeous. My buddies think I am playing blades now. Lol I am a 20hcp and I have to say the 225 are a super forgiving for such a small head.

[@dollarwillwd48]

Loved the fact that you had someone with a high handicap trying these clubs. Nice job!

[@AtillaTheJeff]

As someone who plays the JPX 921, I am seriously considering these irons over the next year or so

[@johnwallace520]

I love the look of the 223 and the 225. I currently play the JPX900 forged with 17 handicap and I am so tempted to go and try the 225's. I think the 223's might be a step too far but the way that ball got up in the air for a 26 handicapper, I am really impressed. I might be spending money I wasn't intending to. Life is short though so why not?

[@mugz_1437]

Yeah why not mate and I’ll take yeah old set😂

[@gavinrodway9536]

14 hcp and traded my ping 410s for the 225s. The ball flight is so much more piercing with less fliers. These clubs are not as forgiving as the 410s but overall more consistent

[@stevewoodward2139]

I currently play 919 forged. I'm thinking of upgrading to 223 (8-pw) and 225 (5-7), although I may wait until the 243/5 are released

[@bradleygyhra421]

I like watching Foxxy test equipment. I am a 18 handicap. Let’s put some Takomo 201s in his hands

[@stevengartside7257]

Just out of interest James what would you go for. These 225's, the Tokomo 201's or the Cobra King forged tec irons?

[@DK_Raiders117]

Good question. I was wondering the same thing.

[@cancuino4468]

I was thinking about the same clubs as well.

[@autotrip5]

I think James enjoys the Takomos for the look and value but the better Mizunos aka these new 223s, jpx 921 tours, and mp-20s are on a whole different level of quality and performance.

[@devivoman]

I have the cobra king forged tec and ill just say they really are good clubs, nice acoustics, soft feel, very forgiving, and great around the green as well, the blade shape really gives me a newfound sense of "playability" that I just didn't feel with any of my previous irons. (That last bit I'm sure is 100% mental) I have not tried any of the other models.

[@Justmakesomenoiz]

U can also look at the tec x there isn't a big difference vs the tex version.

[@curtismelick2513]

All three look sweet. Ap2 man here. 223 would be my choice I think

[@billwallenstein3387]

The smaller head with the 225’s will make you a better ball striker Foxy, or hate golf. Good luck 👍

[@tommiethatcher7265]

Great to see foxy back on the channel and trying the 225 mizuno irons

[@gregschulte2953]

225's work just fine for me. I play to about a 11, but I strike the ball well. I don't think these look small over the ball - they're just right. The 223's are a little small for me.

[@rafabonati7757]

Those Mizuno clubs do look great. I would definitely like to feel the difference between them and my inexpensive starter set of Top Flight clubs. Everyone talks about the soft feel of Mizuno irons. Since my handicap is 22 after my first season of playing golf, I imagine the 225s would be best for me. Then Foxy and I could battle it out!

[@StephenParsey]

The difference in feel will blow your mind. I didn’t really believe it until I tried the new 225s and last year’s MP-20 HMBs (very similar) myself!

[@davesrandomramblings2126]

I can 100% vouch for the feel of forged Mizuno irons. Recently found a good used set of MX-23's at a local shop and it was love at first hit. The sound and feel of a pure strike off a forged iron head is incredible.

[@mattchiles7631]

Lovely looking irons , has Foxy tried the cobra forged tec ? I stuck a set in the bag and similar handicap to him .

[@devivoman]

Same here and what an improvement over the game improvement irons I was using before!

[@lindsaynewell6319]

For anyone dunking on James not being able to convert feet to yards, just know that he’s the one with the + hcap and Aston in the driveway and most of us would happily trade 🤣

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

I’m also 5’9 and fat. Let’s bring this into perspective 😂🤘🏼

[@bgoggin88]

Mizuno getting big coverage my releasing clubs when no one else has new stuff out. Smart!

[@rushfanjames2112]

I still play the MP20 HMB’s 👍🏽 I’ll get the 225’s sometime down the road.

[@TxATCIV]

How do the 223s compare to the T100Ss?

[@haciendainteriors]

Mizuno 225 pro vs takomo 101t please

[@mugz_1437]

Loved this iron review because I can relate more to foxy due to my handicap being around 20/25s 👏🏻 But still would of liked to see you hit more than 3 James haha think you could of dropped one close to the pin mate ⛳️ Thanks for sharing.

[@peterreid4567]

Just ordered some. Arriving in march. Can’t wait

[@ronharris1698]

J.R. great vid. I find the new Mizuno irons reviews very interesting. I play a blade but the 223 would fit me. Let's just go with the 225 so we don't have to practice so much (just kidding). The stats between the 223 and 225 are so very close. I am anxious to see your top five irons selection coming in the new year. Is there an iron from another manufacturer that might surprise us? Give your insight.

[@robbiles]

Love to see you compare MizPro line against the TM P7 line up.

[@christopherjohnson8693]

Based on James's review(s) of the Takomo 201s, and their unbelievable great price, I ordered a set. Love them, love them, love them. So James, are the Mizuno Pro 223's as good? What is the price differential? How about a head to head video between the two, I'm curious who would win.

[@jesterxfan]

I'm contemplating the 201s or the Sub 70 699/699 Pros.

[@jonq8714]

I'd bet that the Mizuno's are almost 3x as expensive as the Takomo's... I really want a set of them, I think they're gorgeous.

[@glenngrayjr5879]

I really like how the 225 look. I have t300 and would love to try and feel the difference

[@devivoman]

Friend of mine really likes the look of the t300, how do those play?

[@evanriley55]

@@devivoman I have t300 and they have a nice feel when hit well and have good ball flight to them

[@heinketrapp7180]

Thanks for this video!! I believe the 225’s are in my near future.

[@donkee9]

I ordered a combo set of t100s t200 that still hasn’t been fulfilled after 4 months. Kind wish I waited for these.

[@chrisgirling1097]

Less than 2 minutes in and you show a bottle of HP sauce, videos just get better and better. Those 223's and 225's just look so good

[@2sqnbandit379]

Are these really for high handicap golfers. I play off 7 and loved the feel. Like a blade.

[@jakemorrow5235]

I definitely wouldnt call these high handicap irons by any means! These are close to 770s in size and performance in my testing. High handicap should be looking at the JPX line.

[@alanduncan9204]

Repeat after me...12 inches 1 foot, 3 feet one yard, 22 yards one chain ( a cricket pitch), 10 chains one Furlong (220 yds) 8 Furlongs one mile...1,760 yards......Knowing this helps with Horse racing, Cricket, Baseball and Golf.....Old school.

[@rafabonati7757]

If a baseball player gets a hit and runs to 1st base, how many furlongs did he run? And please don’t use fractions!

[@alanduncan9204]

@@rafabonati7757 Point to point is 90 feet but he would only need to cover 88 feet which is 13.3333% of a Furlong. But if you need to Google to divide by 3? ....well, a lost cause comes to mind.

[@rafabonati7757]

@@alanduncan9204 -Thanks for using decimals. Combining the King’s foot length (12 inches) with the metric system, and percentages is simply awesome!

[@rafabonati7757]

And here’s something everyone should know. If a racehorse runs 6 furlongs, that would be equal to running around all the bases on a baseball diamond 11 times. Now if a golfer hit a ball 250 yards, that would equal 1.4 furlongs. And when James Robinson sinks a putt from 35 feet, he has holed a birdie from 0.05 furlongs away.

[@johnmagnell8902]

That pretty much sums up why some of us use the metric system

[@Surveyor2014]

I am still playing with my MP30s off 18 handicap. Would I benefit in changing over to these,

[@UnknownMoses]

Man the lofts on those 225's are crazy strong

[@pauldaly6484]

I'm a 1 handicap and 225's all day long for me

[@GenXGolf24]

I’m thinking of getting the mp-20 HMB but waiting for price to go down

[@timneitzel6703]

These look great but might wait for the new Cobra Forged Tec x to come out and test them head to head with Mizuno's , cobras and rogue st pro

[@ajvm2010]

25' is 8ish yards.. James, why is this video "unlisted"? And how did I still find it? haha

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

I’ve got no idea how you found it because I haven’t uploaded it yet 😂😂😂😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@lindsaynewell6319]

“The algorithm” is all knowing and omnipotent🤔

[@ajvm2010]

@@JamesRobinsonGolf LOL.. wish I was as good at golf as I am at KZbin

[@loutennant99]

They look and clearly perform really well

[@joepawling4735]

I’m playing a hand me down set of i5’s, what is the comparable ping iron and competitor in the Mizuno irons? Thank you for the videos I enjoy them.

[@Justmakesomenoiz]

It would probably be the jpx 921 forged irons. Correct me if I'm not mistaken. Ping does the i59 and they should be in the ballpark with the 225 mizunos

[@momoghal3711]

How about a comparison with the Takomo 101 with Mr Fox?

[@markh141]

Great video ur a hoot. Love how u googled yards to feet lol Pro tip of the day .... There’s 3 feet in a yard. Keep up the good work bro

[@will.m1110]

James, Honma or Ping for the average golfer.I’d love to see Mr fox hit the Honmas.

[@clydewoods7373]

The 225 is a hi-handicap club? They're in the line with a sim2 max iron?

[@waynepark4430]

That was very nice. I was wondering who the 223 and 225 was meant for. The 225 looks beautiful.

[@jojosaute]

I was tempted to split the 225 with 223 and i just went straight 225. I could have hit them in 7- pw but just kept it simple. I thought the 225 felt evwn softer. The 223 look like a cross between the 921 tour and the mp20 mmc.

[@BuffaloBarber24]

@@jojosaute still playing the 225? Like them still?

[@jojosaute]

@Chuck Z oh yes. They are nice. They are a fairly heavy head, i think, because of the tungsten in the bottom. Not sure how much difference compared to my mp18sc. But i like them and hit them well.

[@thomasmillar5977]

I get a tad frustrated, no offence to foxy, but I struggle to hit a 6 iron 160yds and my handicap is 5.4. I currently use the taylor made p770's. Am I using the wrong clubs?.....

[@bcjammer87]

Mizuno has become by far the greatest name in the iron world since rolling out tech for mid and higher handicaps. I’m a mid-handicapper (12-15) and the JPX 921 forged have completely revolutionized my game… now in single digits. Major props to Mizuno irons.

[@PatrickMC]

The new 245’s coming out are apparently more forgiving and look the same, if not better.

[@M82RKY]

Are these worth buying over the JPX921 forged or Tour? BTW the tour are around £400 cheaper

[@Vysies_adventures]

How do these compare to the sim 2 max for higher hcp people?

[@royclose946]

Well done James 👏

[@johnprinceiv6985]

What high handicap golfer can afford to get fitted for these? It’s around $1600 just for an iron set. Probably around $2500 to get fitted.

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

Why would someone’s handicap determine their income? That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard

[@alexdeel2339]

@@JamesRobinsonGolf Spot on James

[@johnprinceiv6985]

@@JamesRobinsonGolf never said that!! In general that’s a lot of money! But I guess if you have your own KZbin channel you can afford them. My bad! 🤷‍♂️

[@lawrencebogar6136]

@@johnprinceiv6985 I don't have a KZbin channel, just a good job. Tuck you class bias away.

[@Followthepath89]

Can usually finance them at clubhouse golf etc through Klarna that’s what I did with my 770’s 😎

[@kenpappas9520]

Totally disagree. The JPX921 Hot Metal are THE best for high handicaps.

[@mugz_1437]

Hello mate have you tried these new irons to consider the jpx are still better? Just curious yeah see because am in the market for a set and always had me eye on the hot metal before these came out.

[@jojosaute]

@@mugz_1437 mugz i just was shopping for irons and my decision came down to 921 hmp. Zx5 and these 225s. I had no issue with hot metal pro and in comparison to zx5 felt no difference. So i was going to save the money and just go with hmp. I did make the mistake of hitting the 225 and absolutley fell in love. If you are a looks and feel guy the 225 may be better than anything you hit. If you want to save a few hundred and still get great performance the 921 hot metal or hot metal pro will do just fine.

[@mugz_1437]

@@jojosaute Cheers mate will have a look around, saving money and have a good feeling iron is my goal

[@TTT-Turbo]

Your the only person ive heard say these are high handicap irons. 26 handicap and he says he hits 170-175 what was he using before.

[@JP-zy1mt]

are you drunk? don't drink and type.

[@autotrip5]

The entire line looks great. The 225's are forged like the mp-20 hmb were which is an upgrade from the jpx hot metals. JPX tours and JPX forged are forged but the JPX hot metal and hot metal pro are not. It's great to see a high quality forged iron that also has some forgiveness and tech for gi with a clean look that's not terribly chunky. Mizuno does this best. A lot of high handicappers like to experience a balance of feel and forgiveness. Inability to hold the green is what keeps our handicaps high so we need spin and feel also and not just distance which is often all the gi clubs often do. Would love to see a comparison of these 225s with the Callaway Apex DCB. People who wanted blades used to get the mp-20 but seems like the jpx tours were more popular than the mmc's. The 223 though is a sweet spot for tour level pros and low handicaps. Will be interesting to see mix sets. I could see a lot people playing 7-pw in 223 and maybe 225 for longer clubs 4-6?

[@berryj2]

I’m no pro but I feel like Foxy is leaving distance on the table.. maybe matter of coordination. My pro tells me on the range to start feet together and step while swinging if that makes any sense thus developing tempo. Happy hunting my man keep up the good work!

[@ZiPolishHammer]

He's a young strong guy hitting 6 iron around 180. Yeah, he's leaving distance out there for sure

[@allahalibaba9063]

Great looking irons...can't wait to try them out and get fitted...Need to tweck the lofts some for me...James why would you game the 223 over the 225 irons??? What is your main reason other then the price difference...... Thanks...

[@justinglen5414]

Are they as good as the Cobra Forged Tec??

[@trevecchi1766]

I’m a 21 handicapper and Foxy hits a 6 iron 40 yards further than me off 26!

[@matt7iron]

Im also suspicious of that guys alleged 26 handicap.

[@johnkraus5454]

What a shame Mizuno chose not to release them for left hand. Poor choice on their part. Not sure who decides on what left handed clubs they release but it seems they constantly screw it up.

[@martynmantack4026]

Yes they do. They think all lefties are 5 handicappers

[@goutfromfriedokra7099]

why are u complaining..learn how to play right handed

[@Justmakesomenoiz]

@@goutfromfriedokra7099 that was one of the stupidest remarks I've heard in a long time. Learn how to play from.the right side... I'm a lefty to and i would also love some different irons in left. And golf is hard as it is and now u want us to learn the (wrong) side? Most lol on u buddy.

[@goutfromfriedokra7099]

@@Justmakesomenoiz I am not anti leftists but you need to learn to assimilate...Just because you are in the minority doesn't mean you can demand golf club manufacturers to take a loss...if you feel this is discriminatory that's right. Life is unfair.

[@Justmakesomenoiz]

@@goutfromfriedokra7099 well haven't demanded anything. The person above just stated that it's a shame they don't do them in left. Is that so wierd to wonder that. But to say to us leftys learn how to play right hand is just a bad remark. Well I play for fun and of course when one finds something nice and it's not avabile then is a bit disappointing. But I'm also right handed but hitting right just feels totally wrong so can't really do anything to just accept I play left. Still would like to have the 225 in left. But if I'm not mistaken they only do left as service they don't make any real money from.us leftys.

[@eriksvideos6022]

I have the 225s and wouldn’t recommend to anyone above 10 hdcp. And does a 26 hdcp really need $1500 irons?

[@anthonynix636]

26 handicap would be an average score of 98 on average. No possible way possible he is a 26 handicap. Give him the shots of a 26, and he will close you out on the 14 green in match play.

[@nicchoulman5789]

I know scratch players using GI clubs .. I think irons like this can take someone from teens to low single figures

[@quackyduck1499]

The 225's seem to be a very low spinning iron. Even less than the P790's. I'm wondering what the descent angle is on them because from other Vids I've watched they do seem to stop well. The pitching wedge is a 44 loft, that's half way between my 9 and 8 iron of my old Hogan's. I think I'd buy the 3 through 9 and stick with normal bladed wedges through P G S & L

[@thegolfingmusician6345]

Like both clubs but neither will get me outta my gorgeous Honma 747V irons. 7hcp.

[@thomasmurphy2433]

Why do Mizuno have so few irons available left handed??? - you can't get the 225s in lefty

[@markwoodward1716]

Looks better but obvious he still needs the forgiveness of the hot metals.

[@juanldeguevara582]

Are U sure that iron is for high HCP ?

[@alysgolfstudio567]

Look nice but would not give up my Pxg five forged irons for anything right now and I have tested many brands and models before ending up with the pxgs. And never looked back since they feel much better than even mizunos and even miura too. But good to see these and the other two in the range. Though only one (223) I believe available in left hand.

[@nlnoren]

Those are beautiful irons

[@markbailey9503]

Foxy are they going in your bag ⛳🏌️‍♂️👍

[@byronstoddard1835]

23’ is 7.5 yards roughly

[@zahimiibrahim3602]

Such beautiful clubs but a so annoying modern irons are stupidly strong lofted nowadays. Manufacturers sell 'distance' irons by giving mid/high hcp players an ego boost to say they can hit it as long as low hcp players with traditional lofted irons. 4 irons are now like old 2 irons so iron sets stop at 5i. PWs are lofted like 9 irons so we need more wedges to fill the gaps. One day we'll have pitching wedges lofted like a 7 or 8 iron. Are we all idiots? The old Ping Eye PW was 51 degrees and they were forgiving too.

[@markfecteau8138]

I'm not sure I can continue to follow anyone who may need a calculator to convert feet to yards. This was nails on a chalkboard in my head!!! Hahaha

[@guyr7351]

Crazy, we play courses in yards and people forget it’s 3 feet in a yard. I was gobsmacked he did not know 😞

[@timothydaniels504]

This young fellow needs to figure out his backswing and he’ll be a very good player. Another winner from Mizuno

[@JamesRobinsonGolf]

Watch yesterdays video

[@ianbellomo8322]

Just got my P790s!!!

[@elbowyeish]

Isn't he testing the pro 225 not the HMB's?

[@peterbourke1355]

A great idea to have a high handicapper and having more than the usual 3 or 5 shots, most online reviews are useless for average golfer

[@thomasclark631]

Several studies concluded that across all clubs approximately seven yards of distance is sacrificed by wearing your hat backwards.

[@cwugrad396]

he could game then and grow into these in quickly and watch that handicap come down

[@EthanSimon-x9d]

If you consider these high handicap irons then why is Luke Donald playing a full set of 245’s ? I don’t think he’s a high handicap.

[@terrorbyte2642]

They’re good, not Cobra Forged Tec X good- but good

[@jjs8286]

Please put a sticker on the sweet spot and make hits outside the sticker and then see how forgiving they are. Seeing videos of good players tells us nothing. They all can hit all clubs very well. I need to see what a toe or heel shot does. Thanks.

[@TheKeenej]

The 225 pro look like Ben Hogan Precision irons 1955/56.. Try and find an original and test them! JK USA

[@MrAidanDoyle]

Feel stupid for asking for this in the last video 😂

[@neilbibby8870]

yes

[@jacovanniekerk8355]

Let the man hit the 223's!

[@kellycoates5027]

8yds

[@paulstephenson5815]

High handicap players should be nowhere near these irons,Mizuno’s own club fitters and website recommend 8 to 14 range. The 225 are so much smaller than the MP20 HMB they are replacing. I’ve gone for 921 Forged and just started again after 25 years but I’ll be 6-10 handicap and they are perfect

[@rockyfrankham3849]

The first swinging around himself