Dark Willow is the biggest oversight from Junkins.
@alexvitov5 ай бұрын
i see what you did there.
@Шляпик-я3ч5 ай бұрын
DW is just better pos 4
@SirRichardHardon5 ай бұрын
Willow is way better as a 4 you really need some gold
@destroyedprawn5 ай бұрын
A tier
@chaotic_raisin5 ай бұрын
[Nyx'n silence]
@fedeph6655 ай бұрын
I went from 5300 mmr to 5900 mmr in like 15 days spaming clock pos 4-5, that sh1t is amazing, i love kicking cogs into enemy faces, i laugh the entire games, even if i lost, i enjoy the game so much
@resisthor5 ай бұрын
I played lifestealer against that cancer pos 4 clock. I won the game but still feels like I lost because the game was very annoying
@Andytlp5 ай бұрын
Getting hit by 3 cogs from a single cast is the most annoying sht ever. Needs a rework again.
@stardustlucas5 ай бұрын
i spammed Clock as Offlaner and Midlaner, it was amazing
@Andytlp5 ай бұрын
@@stardustlucas lost to offlane clock yesterday. Nightmare fuel adding him to ban list. Won the game, but lost the lane thats all that matters >:)
@Micheldied5 ай бұрын
That hero is so dumb right now.
@wenomechainsama13175 ай бұрын
Playing pos5 healed jenkins from the last offlane tier list
@LucklessLex5 ай бұрын
Yo this level of editing on a 27-minute tier list video is CRACKED
@macariuswrench5 ай бұрын
YEAH IT OWNS
@ihtepiioji5 ай бұрын
Why is Silencer in D tier if Jenkins got silenced 57 times during the video?
@tuluienkhtuvshin26215 ай бұрын
Bro counted💀
@defearl5 ай бұрын
when he said "bIGGER" and the camera zoomed in to his face I got scared for a second
@FahmiZFX5 ай бұрын
I mean, can't you fault him? The cog size is hyuuuggeee. Clock got some nice cogs.
@DomDedz5 ай бұрын
25:25 I love this analogy for NP
@j.p.95225 ай бұрын
I almost spat out my coffee, that was awesome.
@Ace101Mega5 ай бұрын
I have been theories Ember pos 4/5, and it is so good with the 2nd facet chains. When you rush for scepter after boots and vessel , you are a super long-range disabler. So much fun.
@Library4Lich5 ай бұрын
Bro can't you make more content this is SO entertaining
@yudongli21085 ай бұрын
Witch doctor can deal 60 dps at lv1, which is literally carrying a radiance...
@nice_toes_xx5 ай бұрын
The mid build where you go bloodstone radiance, if you get ahead in lane (which you will as you auto win trades) then you’re just a dps monster
@stfu-pi-ddk1ddo8915 ай бұрын
it's 30, which is half a radiance. And you heal for half of it
@kobdog28235 ай бұрын
It also only heals witch doctor. Mid maybe But I can’t afford not to have my bounce damage tried without feels awful. Only one option really
@WoobertAIO5 ай бұрын
Ironwood Treant NP is the closest thing to Old Techies we've had in years. It's an extremely overpowered playstyle that unfortunately no one understands. I hope Slacks picks it up at some point, it'd be hilarious to watch.
@alucard927175 ай бұрын
Care to elaborate on that at all?
@WoobertAIO5 ай бұрын
@@alucard92717 The power of Ironwood Treant is that as long as you can hit towers, you auto-win the game. The problem with it is that the enemies will start hunting you down as if posessed once they realize the danger you represent. This is *really* good because it means that the rest of your team is free to farm or push while you're being chased down like a headless chicken all the time, but on the flipside, it's a completely worthless strategy if your teammates don't capitalize on the multiverses of space you're creating. Luckily enough, it's really fucking hard to have a team so unfathomably bad that they won't even farm if given the chance, so as it turns out, Ironwood Treant NP is extremely broken as a result.
@alexschmitz34145 ай бұрын
@@WoobertAIOplus that lvl 25 talent that triples its stats. You can backdoor a tower with a solar crest on one.
@Colopty5 ай бұрын
@@WoobertAIO Ah, it depending on teammates who are capable of capitalizing on being given all the space in the world does limit its usefulness in pubs... Either way, seems fun and I wanna try it. Any particular power spikes to keep in mind, and what do those spikes enable?
@WoobertAIO5 ай бұрын
@@Colopty sure! At Level 7 (treants level 4) your Treants deal nearly 100 damage per attack to structures, so you can start obliterating towers in seconds with the help of a creepwave (any creepwave will do, just don't let your treant get hit by a tower, that's it's only weakness). From then onward, take any talent that makes your Treant or your Teleportation better. You should consider getting a Helm of the Dominator/Overlord so you can get a chonky creep to tank tower hits for your Treants when all your allied creeps die, allowing you to destroy towers and barracks in one go no matter what. Also, getting a Solar Crest is all good and fine, but consider getting a Desolator first, as well as a Maelstrom. The increase in DPS Desolator will provide your treants is much higher than Solar Crest, and Maelstrom is to solve the creep pushing issues having a single Treant creates. Remember this too: if the enemy heroes start attacking your Treant, especially in the early/mid game, let them. It gives 18 gold & XP when killed, same as the regular ones, it has 1400 HP, and receives massively reduced damage from heroes' attacks and abilities. Every second your opponents are hitting your Treant is a second they could've spent in something more useful, like farming, pushing, or killing your hero. The amount of psychological damage you will inflict on your enemies by playing this shit is not to be underestimated. Edit: Added some paragraph spacing for visual clarity.
@user-cg4yt3vu1q5 ай бұрын
jenkins you can prevent pango from rolling forward with kinetic fence. i dont usually take it but if there is a pango on the enemy it's very good
@chrisstott10805 ай бұрын
as a pos 6 i personally could not be prouder of you coming out of your pos 5 addiction #hopeandlove
@TK___________5 ай бұрын
Theorycrafted and tested the NP with ironwood + solarcrest as the patch came out. It's hilarious how fast a T1 tower melts. :'D
@Maleficarum9995 ай бұрын
One thing about Oracle's False promise and healing amplification is that it has double effectiveness. Heal that gets delayed by False promise does get amplified by Heal amp, but it also gets amplified at the end when False promise ends, So if I heal 500 hp to a target and get it amplified by 10% getting 550 healing, it will also get amplified at the end of False promise resulting in 605 heal, this is why old vessel with 75% healing amplification was so insanely busted on Oracle
@DarchrowTheEnigma5 ай бұрын
I'm surprised not to see Morph pos 5. He has 1 insane facet (imo) where STR becomes his main attribute. And there was a niche trick to fully heal himself without any tango, salve or faerie fire. Doesn't even need to go back to fountain. Simply fully morph to AGI, backpack items and unpack, morph to STR before all the items gets fully unpacked. Its actually crazy, started seeing it in 5k bracket. Not too broken but I think over time, this might become meta.
@tehDmez5 ай бұрын
I think there should be a huge asterisk that this video is for high tier play. Warlock is a top 10 hero in Legend and below, and currently the highest WR hero in Crusader.
@CoolDoge4205 ай бұрын
The silence sfx bothered me more than it should
@Fleig.5 ай бұрын
yeah, it's ass. It would be better to use the "meep" error sound
@Ethryas5 ай бұрын
16:23 I think Jenkins has misunderstood what the first facet, Frozen Expanse does. It’s not affecting Arcane Aura, but adding an effect that levels with it (although now it’s freezing field). It increases the cast range and AoE of ALL CM’s spells. So very different to the second facet, it’s more like an innate Aether Lens
@TankorSmash5 ай бұрын
9:04 that's not just a picture going around, it actually looks like that in game
@InsertC01nP15 ай бұрын
As a dedicated Wisp player I see the Medigun facet as an extremely situational pick when you expect a really long game where the extra survivability (which also benefits you) might make the deciding difference. Also I like the innate ability a lot. The extra vision from the watchers is noticeable because you can see people farm ancients at dire secret shop for example.
@awinkingowl76085 ай бұрын
where is willow in s-tier best sup of the patch ???
@Stealth-165 ай бұрын
Yeah willow being completely off the list is a goofy mistake lmao
@jarredlyle18555 ай бұрын
Willow is pos4
@Stealth-165 ай бұрын
@@jarredlyle1855 Willow is best as pos 4 but there were other pos 4 main heroes like lion sb and weaver on this list. Willow is absolutely at least a B tier 5.
@jarredlyle18555 ай бұрын
@Stealth-16 I agree. I think Jenkins either forgot or has recently been griefed by willow ags rusher haha
@zero-gn6zh5 ай бұрын
I think the Kinetic Fence for Disruptor is amazing. It's super fun to play with in lane and even throughout the game. Having two charges of it makes it impossible to run away, not even including the glimpse. HG defense is great, escaping is hard, camp stacking. So many uses for it!!!
@ivanpaijolin91285 ай бұрын
But you can't trap enemy inside your ult anymore. Not worth
@zero-gn6zh5 ай бұрын
@@ivanpaijolin9128 Yeah, best you can do is close them off from two sides but obv they can still walk out. I still think its worth for me. Feels better with how I play him
@Ace101Mega5 ай бұрын
I love the kinetics fence from Disruptor. It prevents hg , escapes, and a good save. 2 charges, and if you time it right , you can use a 3rd time.
@gt123_55 ай бұрын
Japlin's obsession with Nature's Prophet will always be one of life's great mysteries
@Tzhz5 ай бұрын
ES with Aghs and the increased aftershock is chefs kiss, the w stun is insane for saving teammates, escaping, and ruining lifesteal players days.
@josephhensby41865 ай бұрын
Thank you kind Jenkins. Why no murder gloves?
@greenpeppersalad5 ай бұрын
i thought ET was insane since it was picked a lot as 5 recently
@nice_toes_xx5 ай бұрын
ET position 3 has top 5 best win rates in the game in higher mmr
@michaeleerdmans35005 ай бұрын
veno jungle every game i get 1000 mmr i come out with greave and crimson and we just win it never fails
@nijbu5 ай бұрын
Hello Jenkins I've been doing well in turbo ancient OCE with Chen, which as far as I know is representative of the top 0.1% of Dota 2. Go mid, Aghs by 6, and just spam Martyrdom. Aghs gives hand of god 4 charges (Convert a creep, wait cd, Martyrdom, convert, Martyrdom, facet creep, Martyrdom, Ult with another conversion not far away). Very common to have more healing then highest damage in the game. And 25 hard dispel, that's 13 hard dispels in a fight. A click the jungle and spam alt to see HP bars at the top, and heal via the portraits for some real hands off gaming. Please consider moving him to D+ he is a very good POS 5 when played in the midlane and has lots of money like all pos 5 in turbo
@elt26664 ай бұрын
Little does Jenkins know that the SSS tier was Sven all along
@chunkeebread5 ай бұрын
watching that OG pro game with storm kotl spamming recall to the next camp was pretty funny. didnt know recall applied chakramagic now too
@chessbeat81065 ай бұрын
I'm playing np with solar and vlads and let me tell you, that shit is broken, 6 game win strike 💥
@nux2k5 ай бұрын
Please do a nature's profit video like you did years back. It was very helpful
@bezdaknebomizera5 ай бұрын
"Are you an annoying person?" *me having 400 games on old techies*
@depressingmcnugget32075 ай бұрын
Valve really missed the chance of giving tiny the passive of being immune to petrify from Medusa
@incoma66285 ай бұрын
wow a whole passive waisted to counter one spell from one hero... good that youre not working at game balance xd
@pcxxy5 ай бұрын
Sooooo good! Love seeing the hero's i spam on the top of the list
@Dave__AC5 ай бұрын
I had a dream about you last night and woke up to this video. A bit odd considering I haven't played dota since 2021... maybe it was because of your luscious locks
@Elija13lack5 ай бұрын
Jenkins tier lists patch notes: now has animations
@icecatti5 ай бұрын
killer video my dude
@julignaciohh5 ай бұрын
Good video, really useful. Please don't stop doing this!
@Andersn225 ай бұрын
Hold up, this editing has stepped up massively damn
@wowcplayer35 ай бұрын
I want from 2 to 200000 mmr in 2 hours just from this video! Thank you jakens!
@kirylstasevich42345 ай бұрын
Thanks man! Love your tier lists!
@sticky133375 ай бұрын
Thank you jenkins for not putting aba on this list, cuz he for sure is S tier in my mind
@faker33105 ай бұрын
For me dark willow is tire A, hood tier A, sniper tier A as well nice supports. Yea sniper with new first skill, aganim, euls, witch blade, solar, glimmer, later parasma, wind waker
@Specopleader5 ай бұрын
20:18 You did not *silence* on that one 😲
@freepress36315 ай бұрын
not me a chen main, still clinging the 2012 chen of puppey set, giggling his even mention, I love my garbage - Oscar Sesame street
@Jdlundy125 ай бұрын
One of my teammates dominated with mid jakiro with the spell amp. It was ridiculous. Also been undefeated with lich as a support this patch. 😂
@7chicken5 ай бұрын
JENKINS you muppet you forgot abaddon ahs rush you silly goose i am winning so many games wake up
@RainNColer5 ай бұрын
jenkins knows that unlike witch doctor, dark willow will not get nerfed so he avoided promoting cancer. and speaking of cancer, i still can't believe someone in valve said "yes, we will give this mf a BUILT IN RADIANCE LVL 1"
@Шляпик-я3ч5 ай бұрын
It's not just radiance. It's the fact, that he can fucking sustain-heal himself lol
@quaweds4 ай бұрын
When I see Hoodwink in the D tier... but picked or banned every game at Riyadh...
@Bleacher225 ай бұрын
I like ET this patch, the thing that you can have 2 spells on level 1 pretty good. In laning stage having the facet decreasing armour makes almost all heroes with 0 armour in 2 secs really helps with early kills and the other one is basically is free attack speed as long your movement speed is bigger than 250 ms which is more suitable for cores i guess.🙂
@InstabardooPLUS5 ай бұрын
i cant handle this too many jenkins channels
@jadetaylor60935 ай бұрын
I also have been stomping with np anf treant
@attilaberdy97285 ай бұрын
Nice list, thank you very much!
@Zabankaunah5 ай бұрын
Crystal Maidens "Frozen expanse" facet gives her cast range and aoe bonus, it doesnt only work on arcane aura, its simply a mini bloodstone and lense. When you said both give mana and one is better than the other, thats completely wrong. One gives mana to teammates and the other increases cast range and aoe, which makes your Q W and R just a better spells
@andyscott49495 ай бұрын
how do i post herald games for him i have one where my offlane griefed and went 0-67 and was 1 jhr 27 min game he took all wards and took all neutrals and got boots of travel to tele and die faster
@m0k-i3z5 ай бұрын
Thank you. You look like the vocalist from BMTH.
@kief76965 ай бұрын
i had 70% wr on techies completely curb stomping every game pos 4 and took a break before the updates, came back after a 3 months and couldnt understand why techies felt so shit and just found out about the nerf in this video, i guess im taking a break until techies is buffed again.
@jameslarimer92115 ай бұрын
Can anyone explain to me why when Silencer has Irrepressible, Mask of Madness doesn't silence him but Gust does?
@LuckyTicket75 ай бұрын
actually slept on kolt's recall facet. infinite mana and cooldowns.
@hunternewberry58605 ай бұрын
Jakiro double strike is anything but a meme. Insta kill wards/weaver bugs/grimstroke phantoms Kill phoenix ult /undying tombstone twice as fast (especially with 200 atk range talent). Any one of these benefits can turn an entire game arround.
@Lucas-gt8en5 ай бұрын
The editing getting kind of slick with it
@benedictiongamerakapokexeb18405 ай бұрын
I had mixed feelings about disruptor's kinetic fence but after a few games of using it.....I love it, perhaps not as good as kinetic field but the multiple charges is nice and allows for some nice blocks to be set.
@hemnhamza56915 ай бұрын
morph is gr8 supp too with the new facet str and can really help team 3sec stun that get 4 sec at level 20 if u want
@aldalome5 ай бұрын
Squirrel d tier lmfao
@ivanpaijolin91285 ай бұрын
Pudge on b tier is insane. But as someone who always get hooked under tower i could vouch that pudge strong TT
@nebulagray885 ай бұрын
Heavily object to Hood being that low. Pretty much guaranteeing a bounce on acorn shot is so strong in the early game that if you get a lead out of it, the cast range loss tradeoff doesn't matter.
@winarasuniruthan43755 ай бұрын
Nobody is talking about the headhunter facet of WD. The q deals 600 damage per hero
@alex74355 ай бұрын
Why would you take that when you can literally zone 2 heroes completely off the creep wave by yourself at level 1 with festeration.
@warrentang74595 ай бұрын
I like these videos! I think if you switched up the censoring noise and cycled between other iconic dota noises that could improve engagement.
@penyu19135 ай бұрын
jenkins pls add pango to any tier list except the mid lane. i play support pango and his thunderbolt facet make it so you dont need blink to solo carry on level 6 (like the way its intended back when he release)
@megawl20865 ай бұрын
About Elder Titan, Deconstruction is ok, Momentum is decent, you have 138 attack speed on lvl 1 and if you pair that with Astral Spirit, you can very comfortably trade with supports and even cores, but Titan really is better as a core now, especially offlane, he does farm pretty slow but you can fix that by ganking
@howmaneverton96305 ай бұрын
its insane to me that abaddon is not on any of these lists. okay he gets hard countered by some heros and is pretty situational but he is such a great counter to the strongest heros on that list. he purges everything can take a ton of dmg is such a great save and when he gets aghs, everyone just cries.
@anhquang54665 ай бұрын
Jenkins still believe in 1 facet from UD, while the other is god tier buff for cores
@henlohenlo6895 ай бұрын
back when i played like 2016. like meepo was best all lanes. u could buy boots of travel permanently mass farm mass heal mass gank mass split push. another solid pick later few years later was luna. where once u got aghanihms and refresher. she could double cast her ult from a mile away from opponents to clean out enemy enemies. it outright killz all enemy heros single handedly. ONLY thing be watchful for is to not use it near minions or jungle camps as they might absorb the damage. the thing with luna was her was broken literally thus made her great pick. im not sure if her ult is still broken.
@dauls5 ай бұрын
I have been spamming witch doctor for the last 10 patches, The Heal is great, I will continue to win with him even if they remove it.
@kennetheriksen10915 ай бұрын
What about Abaddon 5? Where would you place him?
@rollerskdude5 ай бұрын
When I get a functional sim card I'll finally get the chance to buy a Steam Deck to play Dota for the first time in over a decade.
@cleric49335 ай бұрын
No Abaddon?
@grubby555 ай бұрын
thank god there is not my top secret pos5 hero with 71% winrate on this list
@Zm4rf5 ай бұрын
Jenkins been losing weight and looks like going to gym good work
@nvvv_5 ай бұрын
24:50 can you put out a sequel to your last np video explaining it? That facet just loses me games. The tree is so weak at low level.
@motchness5 ай бұрын
Hey Jenkins you’re hilarious, we love you, please produce more content if you can
@matthew41075 ай бұрын
wait, so pheonix saved last minute by an oracle, into a phoenix ult when the oracle ult is about to end might be op and stupid af
@sortileges54745 ай бұрын
I don't think you're annoying, Jenkins. I'd holler at you if I see you at a party, maybe even have a chat about anime and shit.
@kenvilla72485 ай бұрын
What about Tinker POS5. Ive been playing it recently with the Healbot facet and getting Holy Locket. Its great to heal allies in any lane hitting the lvl 6 timing. Thoughts?
@hecate89684 ай бұрын
guaranteed he'll be at least B in 7.37 tier list
@rektalizertv99585 ай бұрын
Clockwork what get's bigger? Clockwork what damage?
@babyhands92875 ай бұрын
Someone get this hungry girl a happy meal.
@thegreymanwitharedhat40615 ай бұрын
Me: *Sees Pos 5 Techies in D tier* Also me: *Playing Techies on a 20 winstreak on pos 5 techies*
@HalIOfFamer5 ай бұрын
Tbf elder removes base armor and with this facet he also removes additional armor every second. Imo it's a nieche pick where you go full tank unkillable god against a team of such picks and just let them jump you, wait a couple seconds then your team counter inotiates. Probably not for support tho. Probably better for offlane.
@13entley5 ай бұрын
No dawnbreaker support? Cmon Jenkins!
@NAH65895 ай бұрын
@Jenkins Tier Lists ... ;) CANCELED! where is the ABADDON love. Aba god tier support . Ty for video :)
@Horheeh5 ай бұрын
You forgot Morph Pos 4, Its like upgraded Rubick
@Therobin3a5 ай бұрын
Lion with ags and harpoon is amazing.
@macariuswrench5 ай бұрын
Mr Jenkins I've always enjoyed your tier list videos but this one seems to have a lot more work put in, death to S-Tier skippers
@asvale3015 ай бұрын
Abaddon? Been playing him and with holy locket feels really good
@mickytananu59085 ай бұрын
jenkin have you seen the crazy attack speed on ET and winrate with the right facet.