The Better Naval Fighter | F/A-18C Hornet Vs F-14B Tomcat | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@pgtmr2713]

What is the success rate of the Phoenix in this simulator? Was that 4 you fired? Ridiculous. And Jester, what was his deal? Needs an ass chewing. Out there skylarking. Maybe that needs to be an item on Jester's menu. The GYST button, with 10% chance Jester punches out in his maternity flight suit.

[@yuvinperera89]

​@PGTMR2 yeah....I was wondered about that launch too...

[@1stNumberOne]

I’d love to see a series highlighting different aircrafts. History, strengths, weakness, purpose etc..

[@wackswax8423]

Did you link the video that’s about lingo terminology?

[@corvobatarin6785]

That Sparrow crawling into focus at the end is just top tier cinema

[@TitaniusAnglesmith]

@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ Nah

[@SirNobleIZH]

@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ Jesus drove a Honda, but didn't talk about it "For I do not speak of my own Accord"

[@fugu5162]

​@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ God notes the fall of a sparrow

[@n.w.1803]

"Sparrow, you have got to be the worst missile I've ever heard of!" "...but you *have* heard of me.."

[@stevemc6010]

All those fancy active radar missiles and a Sparrow finds the target :D

[@jimw8016]

My thoughts exactly

[@nuanil]

Well you know what they say about a broken clock....

[@termitreter6545]

The thing you last expect, I suppose! Sparrows really suck lol.

[@interests6702]

Id love to see a tack view of where the Phoenixes actually went or how close they got. I'm curious how he evaded the launch at 11 miles. Love your videos!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Terrain masking, he went behind the hills at the end there

[@johnhickman106]

​@@GrowlingSidewinder Where did his 9X go just before the AIM-7 tagged him? It should have tracked.

[@RamachandranKN_87]

@@johnhickman106 Most likely GS decoyed it with his flares and it sailed below him.

[@johnhickman106]

@@RamachandranKN_87 Yeah, probable, but he had the Tac View to say exactly. The 9X is hard to beat with just flares.

[@boon9849]

@@johnhickman106 yeah 9x are hard to beat but from a about 5 mile range from front aspect its quite doable

[@lordhickory3322]

3:55 Damn, I never knew Phoenix missiles would go rocket mode to the edge of space… Both really cool and really terrifying at the same time

[@Manifestivemedia]

Yeah ditto, crazy and yeah that would be terrifying.

[@tuunaes]

Rocket motor has no need for air and denser air of lower altitude only slows acceleration and decreases speed (=energy) achieved at end of the burn. After which denser air would bleed missile's energy faster. Also altitude is potential energy, which converts to some extra speed when diving down.

[@lordhickory3322]

@@tuunaes i know that, i just never considered the missile to go near vertical and to such high altitudes...

[@Leonardo-wn2fp]

@@lordhickory3322 They didn't play around when they built the Tomcat and the Phoenix. That thing was really meant to kill as many bombers as the soviets would field long before they would ever be able to release one of their anti-ship missiles :D

[@termitreter6545]

Yeah, the Phoenix missile actually insane. The reason it goes so high is because that allows it to come down really damn fast. The missiles doesnt need to be as agile if its doing a mach 2+ top down attack. In DCS, its what makes the F-14 a better BVR plane than the F-15, even if the missile can be notched. It just forces everyone else to play scared when competent 14' pilots fly around. Shame they didnt do anything with the missile, but the F-14 was pretty much built around the Phoenix. Its so heavy an F-15 couldnt carry it even if the USAF wanted to. The future AIM-260 could bring back long range A2A missiles to the USAF though.

[@Acrophobia2]

I think these 2 aircraft are pretty evenly matched so I’d like to see you do this fight in the hornet next!

[@isukatgams]

He already did one a bit ago that way you can watch my brother, about one year ago

[@isukatgams]

Bvr fight

[@rohesilmnelohe]

He did once: /watch?v=mx2Hh9h8jCc It's just nuts.

[@boy--kisser]

​@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ cringe

[@dreaminknight]

Jungle - ex F14A/D and F18C/D & E/F pilotand Top Gun instructor - considers the F18 as strikers and not as fighters. .

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Him defending and dropping flares as he circles the Sparrows missile trail was epic

[@RuBiCaNT5X]

The rear ¾ angle of the F14 is a thing of beauty

[@ShinobiFox1980]

Normally an F-14B would not want to go to the merge with a F/A-18C, but this particular one is equipped with a Growling Sidewinder.

[@practicalphotography1235]

Are you gay for him?

[@Richard-wp8ty]

​@@practicalphotography1235 you aren't?

[@HalcyonAD]

Ahh yes, Sparrow... an elegant weapon from a more civilized time.

[@barbaros99]

13:10 - You time that drop perfectly every time!

[@0BuLLeT01]

Gets me every time

[@zyson7009]

What's the song name?

[@bananomet4052]

What I like the most about the F-14's Phoenix is that you can guide it on target practically all the way in TWS and the enemy has very little time to react at the end.

[@HMSNeptun]

So can the AMRAAM though isn't it?

[@ColdWarriorGamer]

He should be using the AIM-54C rather then the A model. The C has the ability to continue tracking if the lock is broken before the missile goes pitbull, which is huge.

[@termitreter6545]

@@HMSNeptun Yeh, Aim-120 works the same, and has the advantage that it can get target data from general Link-16, not just the aircraft that fired it. Though I think the Phoenix' high speed and coming from top makes it harder to react to. Its just such a weird weapon to defend against. The range also means its harder to stay safe; an Aim-120 rarely hits beyond 30 miles, while a Phoenix can reasonably hit chance on 50-60. Its just scary to have F-14s flying around.

[@herrzimm]

To be honest, there is still something about the Tomcat (ESPECIALLY) the swept-wing option, that I just like more than the Hornet. I don't know if it is simply the appearance, or maybe it was simply the "top of the line" plane in use when I was a kid and it kind of became somewhat "iconic" to me in general. Either way, I still love the Tomcat, but highly respect the advances that the Hornet made in military aircrafts around the world.

[@Elthenar]

The Tomcat is an incredibly iconic fighter for a reason. Not only was it the face of US air power due to Top Gun and other movies, it also was the model used for a lot of Japanese toys and anime. A lot of those older animes featured fighters that transformed into robots....and nearly all of them were based on the F-14.

[@Terpenesteve]

another epic video GS! the way that Sparrow pulled into the F-18 in slow motion while you were swirling the sky with flares was a beautiful shot indeed! Def one for the books boys!!! Great flying all around !!!!!

[@section8usmc53]

I love that "thud thud" when the Phoenix comes off the rail.

[@MrNoobed]

This is how mooch explained it. You start with Phoenix and you got the range on him. Even if it's not a great missile vs fighters, you can't just ignore it. Then you push sparrows on them, then your acm with your sidewinder and guns and you kept them defensive the whole fight.

[@PepperDog76]

Wish I could like this a dozen times. Great content and your running commentary is perfectly paced in every engagement, I don’t know how you do it.

[@taco-bellleftovers1816]

Great video as always GS! I love your fighter content and hoping for more Apache and two morons too!

[@cj41079]

Yeah we need a Huey run lol 😂

[@JohnHill-qo3hb]

Can you imagine how deadly the Phoenix would be if development had continued till today?

[@nercksrule]

The F-15 is the only other airframe that could realistically carry a Phoenix. And I can't see air force jocks wanting to carry those dildos around in the place of AMRAAMs

[@heyidiot]

...and if the Super Tomcat 21 had been developed?

[@90whatever]

The AIM 260 JATM is probably along those lines. Expected by end of the year

[@zaretya9091]

Issue with this question is that it is like asking "How deadly would the F-4 be if development had continued till today?" Sometimes you need to start with a completely clean slate instead of just modernizing old designs like the Soviets did and the Russians try to pretend they don't

[@ThePppp89]

@@zaretya9091 Well now that you mention it the R-37M is probably a decent answer to the original question, lol.

[@PavewayJDAM]

That sparrow was like, hello, I'd like to talk to you about your Hornet extended warranty!

[@pju28]

Seriously I like the videos and the way you fly. Also how you explain the manoeuvres. Keep on it! Thumbs up for your work! 👍

[@bluecaptainIT]

You know, GS, recently you've done some SEAD missions in the F-16, but a video focusing on the F-14 on Air to Ground would be interesting!

[@mavericknunez5962]

The sync between the explotion and drop give it the touch

[@timsullivan4566]

OMG - that head-on view of that Phoenix climbing. 😲You were NOT kidding about altitude!

[@CoffeeMatt10]

Climbed higher than Elon’s big rocket 😂

[@timsullivan4566]

@@CoffeeMatt10 True, but without that satisfying explosion...😮‍💨

[@tommy5285]

GS once again strutting that Cat flex, and showing what a beast it really was. Like the Black Stallion, a powerful beast, but only the right hands could master it.

[@Kronx1970]

Always love when that beat kicks in at the end of the videos.

[@policebear88320]

Hey @GrowlingSidewinder I appreciate your content immensely. I really think intercept and protection missions you've uploaded is some of the most exciting content besides the dogfights. Would absolutely love to see F-22 missions or bomber protection missions. Thanks for the fresh upload here!

[@barryrodgers3039]

At 10:00 how do you know it is safe to recommit with the missile warning still on the RWR? At 10:15 it appears to barely miss (flips sides on the RWR).

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Ya I use MAR (I know his range cuz I see him on radar, and then I go cold, so I know I’m outside the range of his missile) as long as you respect MAR you can recommit even tho the missile still has a lock on u, because it doesn’t have the energy to do anything about it.

[@jberry1982]

I always loved the way those Phenix missiles deploy and go up at a high climb rate into the stratosphere until they get to there target then they dive steep and destroy whatever into pieces

[@slammedc2003]

Yo! That Sparrow hit center mass too, spot on! TOMCAT, BABY!

[@capapofa]

the concept of BVR fights are both terrifying and cool

[@enochlearns6132]

Another epic ending. Keep em comin GS. That's outstanding content. Been waitin all day to see that splash. Interesting tactics. Just great.

[@cmarchione1]

Love the videos. As a Former F14 maintainer I also love the fact it’s wearing VF-101 markings.

[@cuabcomstad]

The industrial music at the end was the icing on the cake.

[@jamezzz0035]

Grun 1 vs Schnee 1. *Finally, the worthy opponents, their battle will be legendary!*

[@armchairwarlord]

Jamming that Sparrow down his throat at the end was brilliant.

[@happyhaunter_5546]

cool fight; Hornet managed those Phoenix's pretty well

[@FatHead1979]

Nice little musical montage at the end 👍

[@tmac2797]

Would love to see some dogfights between the hornet and tomcat. The new fm for the tomcat is awesome. You really can take just about anything 1c or 2c

[@maybesherlock734]

How does she perform against f16 with new fm ?

[@Registered_Simp]

@@maybesherlock734 Might be able to hold a 1-circle with a Viper but should still get demolished in 2-circle

[@maybesherlock734]

@@Registered_Simp even with flaps down is there any chance in 2 circle ?

[@kingghidorah8106]

omg Growling, the most intense missile jousting I've ever seen so far. That Hornet got effing blasted by skill.

[@WhenindoubtFox-3]

Never thought id see you here

[@JAEUFM]

I wonder if some engineer tried putting the seeker head from one of today's missiles into a Phoenix to just see what it could do?

[@Rouhollah74]

A delight to watch. Also the outro song is on fire bro! ;)

[@foxtrot24gamer56]

the ending got me reaching for my lotion and tissues mate, fucking brilliant as always keep it up.

[@carlosandleon]

dafuq

[@foxtrot24gamer56]

​@@carlosandleon yes

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Lold

[@ltjjenkins]

GS going al Clint Eastwood, "Somebody's going to die here today".

[@RagsHSC-7]

I can't believe the f-18 was not defending unless he was depleted. Definitely saving this 1. I believe he did shoot a 9x sidewinder . Going to save this one with last Sunday. Thank you GS. I think you should do it again. Awesome show!👊😎 Being a Navy man with an excellent f-18 VP, I thought for sure the 18 would have got ya. Loved it! ⚓🇺🇸⚓

[@Tactical_Wings]

I learn a lot of useful information from your videos thank you Master Sidewinder

[@chelemae]

I absolutly love both these jets keep doing this

[@caleblarsen5490]

Pucker factor good gradually tighter to the end. Getting that close seems like a death wish, but it paid off! Excellent work as always. I'm a band teacher and getting ready for concerts is so much work. People don't really realize how much work goes into making something like this.

[@coolsquad7428]

If the phenix was upgraded today it would target aircrafts about 200 to 300 miles away probably at mach 8

[@CJFreeza]

GS posts a video, I immediately drop everything and watch it

[@Belford_4642]

Always a great video when you’re in the F-14

[@ivanzlatar2445]

I cannot remember that last time we saw a Sparrow Kill ! ....

[@swordmonkey6635]

That Sidwinder was like "May I take your wings for you sir?"

[@oscarrodriguez9012]

the last shot, that slow motion!! dammm, good hunt!!!!!

[@TaGF_Tomcat]

That kill cam was entirely gratuitous and I loved every second, MOAR dammit!

[@TheFlyingPancakeReal]

One of your best videos, one of your most tense BVR fights. Good job 👏

[@xraw110x]

Not exactly sure what it is about this one. But, it stands out. Really awesome engagement

[@broganjohnston750]

“It’s not the plane it’s the pilot” -someone can’t remember who

[@slyderace]

3:48 How are you looking at the missile w/o the info bar at the bottom? Like when using F6 to view your weapon.

[@walpolescrew]

Seeing the missile at the end was like seeing a sharks fin, and you know it’s too late.

[@jaanikaapa6925]

I love you guys' videos. I'd love it if DCS got the E/F/G versions of the Hornet too. Would be pure gold.

[@patrickreindel692]

Always happy for F-14 content.

[@johntardigrade176]

Ngl. I wasn't expecting a sparrow to actually connect

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

lol I don't think anyone was, none you watching, not me, and probably not him loool

[@johntardigrade176]

@@GrowlingSidewinder * surprised Pikachu face * when the sparrow found the target

[@belugafan2961]

This Is why we have the saying "giving is better than recieving "

[@adanm603]

"The missile knows where it is at all times"

[@rjlarose5271]

Can't wait for a super hornet module.

[@Lambda420]

Always kill the bandit before the merge. I can’t dogfight but I can use sensors. Also you gotta flank f-14s or you die. They’re waiting for 40 I’m waiting for 10 😂

[@mohsenmansoori159]

mighty pilot + mighty tomcat . what a deadly mix. thanks bro from iran

[@mikemontgomery2654]

That was a great kill in the Tomcat. Well done!

[@AltaiiSinan]

The sound track in the end of the video 👌

[@NOAA_1996_]

Sparrow used the force XD i love your videos man

[@daddalonglegz0]

I feel like your piloting skill means more than the aircraft. I’d trust you to win in an old A4 sky hawk as long you had ordnance

[@captainicelander3898]

This content makes we wanna go flying the Tomcat again...way to long. Thanks for this awsome vid brother!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I appreciate you watching man, much love.

[@justwingitsa]

It still amazes me how the Tomcat was under-rated in combat. Even in dogfights. I really wish they had produced the Super Tomcat. Anyway, great flying.

[@clockworkorange3628]

Damn boy that was a good kill....

[@Justanotherbeautifulday]

You are amazing dude! Thank you for the great videos.

[@enceladus-117]

What is that outro song? Always super fun to see fights like these from GS!

[@AdrianGarcia-ww1ik]

I’m wondering the same thing! Good song choice for this video. And possibly my workout playlist lol

[@config2543]

The mighty Tomcat claims another scalp. ❤

[@lutherpayne9957]

I would have thought the Navy would have spent some funds on another upgrade to the Tom Cat. If nothing else to keep it as a fleet defender in limited numbers. It was one of those birds that had pazazz.

[@razortosh]

a supertomcat won't happen until the us is out of the stealth fixation since sweep wings give too much radar crossection

[@wurfyy]

Swept wings only existed to solve a problem for which we have better solutions now. Even if USN brass had their brains fall out and they decided that RCS is no longer important, the F-14 wouldn't come back.

[@sicKlown86]

If not keeping the Tom Cat a bit longer, you'd think that they'd require the ability to use the Phoenix as an absolute minimum capability any replacement would have to meet.

[@dominiksoukal]

3-4 super hornets are still better for fleet defense and much much better for any other mission.

[@half-dead6706]

I think the maintenance on the Cat was too high in the long run.

[@moonage_]

I've never seen that Phoenix missile before LMFAO Thing looks like an AGM

[@azrael6067]

An AIM 54 Phoenix modernised with the AMRAAM seeker would be a nightmare for AWACS if they were in service today.

[@Registered_Simp]

They certainly would be terrifying, but would also be a pretty big logistical and economic hassle to keep on-hand. Think the DoD is trying to supplement the capability of Aim-54 without the cost or size drawbacks with Aim-260. Roughly the same size as current Aim-120D's but effectively twice the range. Pair it with Stealth platforms like F-35/F-22 and the soon to be NGAD or F/A-XX and you have something truly terrifying.

[@ColdWarriorGamer]

He should be using the AIM-54C rather then the A model. The C has the ability to continue tracking if the lock is broken before the missile goes pitbull, which is huge. It also has newer electronics from the early mid 80s rather then early 70s tech

[@raygunreagan2274]

@@Registered_Simpthe aim260s are supposed to be smaller allowing more of them to be carried by f35s and f22 in their internal load without having to comprise their stealth

[@Registered_Simp]

@@raygunreagan2274 That seems closer to the new and in-development Peregrine missile. Aim-260 is also TMK supposed to be roughly the same size as Aim-120 but with far longer range

[@accessdenied3379]

Unbelievable!!! What and ending!! Just awesome ❤

[@accessdenied3379]

I just wait for you to win and hear that new ending sound track!! Please make it a little bit more longer in the next video!

[@Cl1zynF1amez]

As said in Top Gun: Maverick, "Its not the plane, its the pilot"

[@aaardvaaark]

Man, the F14 is still the best looking fighter of all time (seconded by the F4). Those spread out engines and the whole stance of the thing.. I wish the US didn't have to destroy all of theirs.

[@HAMlLTON]

all i want in life is a girl to talk about me like GS talks about phoenix’s

[@shanedockery3283]

I understand why people would argue the tomcat is the better fighter. Top speed the tomcat has a major advantage for example. But if I recall the tomcat needed 50hrs maintenance between sorties and the hornet needs 20hrs. So a carrier could have twice as many hornets ready to fly. Two hornets will always beat one tomcat!

[@deltaforceshuttles3749]

You know it would be interesting to see the tomcat go up against the mig 31 with awacs killers / a formidable fo for bvr

[@cone256]

A-6 Intruder is the best naval aircraft ever. So underrated

[@abbaerfani9007]

Very interesting fight with lots of information thank you so much for doing this job GS Gerat fight

[@mantis4766]

Your videos are the best 🔥🔥. Keep up the good work

[@NRN7]

I'd love to see the tac debrief of this one...

[@nathan.mk798]

would love to see another KA50 video, maybe even with some Air to Air with the IGLA

[@CaptGhostRyder]

Once again showing the superiority of the F-14 vs F-18. Always fun to see them facing off in a more natural battle for them.

[@doggy2601]

Eh it’s not superior really especially the super bugs with ammram Ds

[@sledgehammerk35]

@@doggy2601 The F-14 is not technologically superior. But a fully upgraded Tomcat with fly-by-wire, the AIM-120, and LANTIRN would be a much better platform for the Navy.

[@nobleman-swerve]

​@@sledgehammerk35 At a massive expense. You pay for the performance, to say nothing about how sortie generation would also be hugely inferior to the Hornet. If a hornet is 90% as good at 60% the cost, there's something to be said of that.

[@CaptGhostRyder]

@@doggy2601 I mostly meant the platform more than the missile. Plus don’t forget there is the F-14D which we can’t fly in DCS (yet) that was totally updated.

[@doggy2601]

Plus the super hornet is also amazing I wish it was in dcs too

[@DesGardius-me7gf]

My uncle flew the Hornet during Desert Storm. It’s a superb aircraft.

[@farticus_]

I can't believe it's nearly been a year and a half of me watching GS nearly everyday! 😆😂💯💯

[@stevestogsdill5791]

Thanks for explaining for somebody like me who knows nothing about this!

[@AdrianGarcia-ww1ik]

Another awesome cat vid. What is this outro song by the way? Love it.

[@JohnnyWooh]

Hey, not sure if it's my setup, but your voice mix sounds really bassy, almost drony at times. I'm not a sound expert by any means, but it might be worth looking into if others agree, i think. Love the channel, congrats on cracking 450k 👍

[@swathdiver489]

Miss these Tomcat videos!

[@kenhutchens513]

The Old Dirty Bird, coming in clutch. I got to work on and see the last few that were in USAF inventory back in 2009 before them being phased out. 💣💣I.Y.A.A.Y.A.S 💣💣