The Bible VS Reality | Marie-VA | The Atheist Experience 24.34

[@AceHogarth]

Whenever someone starts with "What I believe..." it's game over, you know nothing will change their mind.

[@donnyh3497]

She might as well have just started screaming "NO NO NO MY MOMMY SAID IT'S TRUE SO IT HAS TO BE TRUE!"

[@TallSilentGuy]

"You poked my heart!"

[@JamesRichardWiley]

My pastor interprets what Saul and the ancient Hebrew goat herders said and wrote on parchment and animal skins.

[@anrose8335]

You totally voiced my thinking Donny H. Thanks!

[@raymondstemmer2051]

But what about your daddy? MY daddy is bigger then your daddy

[@donnyh3497]

@@raymondstemmer2051 😄 my sky daddy is bigger than your sky daddy

[@milkenobi]

“The Bible I was given as a child” case and point right there

[@oliveryt7168]

Not many people would like to admit that they lived all their life with a lie.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

Yep…perfect summary. Catch them early. Brainwash for life.

[@Zero-0-Cypher]

This is the exact reason why the middle east is in perpetual war... They are taught religion from birth and ignore everything else that contradicts thier superstitious beliefs...

[@gobbygoo3981]

Its my pillow, its my life, its my wife, its my bff.....oy vey

[@jensandersen7011]

@@gobbygoo3981 Did you buy a MyPillow?

[@Bazzo61]

Matt is ruthless in the face of ignorance and I love him for it!

[@markmehlhorn2836]

Good form sir! 🤟

[@foolkiller65z56]

And stupid has been around far to long To be Nice.

[@grimm2626]

I would say that he’s ruthless in the face of willful ignorance. Ignorance is (sadly) the default state. But once one is shown that ones assumptions were incorrect, one should adopt the new understanding and move forward. It’s the willful reluctance to adapt and move forward that frustrates the living bejezus out of me, and I imagine it does for Matt as well.

[@erics.4113]

Ignorant individuals can be a dangerous liability for a social animal.

[@ДмитрийСолдатов-о6ц]

@Plush Mush are you talking about "10 Cloverfield Lane" ?

[@TenFalconsMusic]

Does anyone else watch these for pure entertainment? Watching Matt reduce knuckle draggers into wet doughnuts.

[@MarioRossi-sh4uk]

Of course. It's the only real purpose of this show. To ridicule who's calling with idiot ideas.

[@anothertime1282]

Sole reason for watching. The spectacle of ignorance is entrancing.

[@henrikrolfsen584]

I love Matt. He speaks clearly, and directly, and to the point. He is actually a very entertaining person, especially for people who are hungry for truth, and knowledge, and consider themselves intellectually motivated! Thank you Matt Dillahunty!

[@2msystems740]

Yes, always.

[@gobbygoo3981]

This is soo much better than cable tv

[@Aminah6623]

Pass/Fail test: which is older, the sun or the earth? Caller fails.

[@DJH316007]

I love how she though sunlight before a sun is a good argument.

[@joed9305]

When someone can't answer a simple question that would show them they're wrong, you can feel the cognitive dissonance that leads them to their intellectual dishonesty.

[@betsyduane3461]

Imagine wasting your life away believing in fiction? Why does society accept this? If your mom told you she lived her life by the preachings of a science fiction novel you would take her to a doctor. But if she does that with a 3000 year old fiction book everyone accepts it.

[@kw8757]

This video is a good demonstration of how a person can be brainwashed from birth to believe the utter nonsense in the bible, it dogs them for life. The people who perpetuate this are evil.

[@betsyduane3461]

@@kw8757 I was raised Catholic, 12 years of Catholic school but I was a non believer by age 8. It just made no sense to me and I saw no results from praying, saw that religious people weren't any better off. Maybe it was just laziness, but religion took too much effort for me.

[@kw8757]

@@betsyduane3461 Laziness wasn't the issue, you were bright enough and free-minded enough to realise early on that religion and god is just a load of bollocks.

[@ARINOXMUSIC]

It's hard for them to accept death as the end of everything.....I find it peaceful that I'll cease to exist and nothing more

[@geezzerboy]

Lots of people live their lives according to Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand, the most evil book ever written, even the booble isn't as mind numbingly evil.

[@edwardparker760]

I am amazed that Matt is not a gibbering wreck after banging his head against all these closed minds. Respect to the man

[@Nissenov]

Poor girl, she did not Even notice when the train hit her.

[@aldovera3789]

The light blinded her.

[@fathertime2020]

I'm actually embarrassed for these stupid people that call in. I believe therefore it's true! Aaaahhhhh

[@shinobi-no-bueno]

"I've purposely sequestered myself from those who might question my beliefs, therefore I'm correct"

[@daviniarobbins9298]

I don't know why they call in either. That's some brain washing(we are all brain washed to some degree in life).

[@souldaddy81]

It makes me a lil sad to watch, but then they say something so *nucking futs that I giggle

[@onkelgroen]

It never ceases to amaze me how people acts like "scientific findings has to make sense to me, or they can't possibly be correct!".

[@JamesRichardWiley]

I did poorly in geometry and physics in high school therefore geometry and physics are false.

[@barnacleboi2595]

@@JamesRichardWiley I agree

[@davydtaylor4151]

Are you saying that people should believe science even if they don’t know it’s validity? Isn’t that the exact same thing as faith?

[@onkelgroen]

@@davydtaylor4151 I'm saying, if you've got peer reviewed research available, then maybe trust that over your own instincts and incredulity.

[@davydtaylor4151]

onkelgroen so how is that different to trusting the words of pastors and elders in the church? Surely they could say “Trust our collective knowledge over your own instincts and credulity” in the same way as you just did... Not looking to argue, just interesting.

[@mider-spanman5577]

When Matt said "I'm gonna put your ass on hold" I laughed so hard! 😆😆😆

[@mjallen1308]

RIGHT! I was like “YESSS! PUT HER ASS ON HOLD!”

[@joelonsdale]

Especially as it wasn't even her ass that was the problem, it was her mouth!

[@jazzfree1541]

@@joelonsdale I found it difficult to judge which one she was using at the time 😐

[@kameronsnowe903]

"well, MY bible says..." so the argument is: semantics therefore god? and why do people cling to a book that is obviously a localized culture's bronze-age mythology?

[@n1ghtmar3mach1n3]

@Magical Chemical Daddy Sure.

[@n1ghtmar3mach1n3]

@MrGpt2010 Right on ✊. I've been seeing his horseshit for longer than I care to talk about. He's a goon. 😁

[@n1ghtmar3mach1n3]

@@YoungEarthCreation Sure. There are plenty of educated creationists. They're atheists now.

[@NyxSilver8]

@@YoungEarthCreation His followers tell me in the comment sections to phone in, "Matt doesn't comment on his videos." Yeah, that would be fair, him commenting to us here defending his theology.

[@NyxSilver8]

@@n1ghtmar3mach1n3 Creatio continua is creation but I've never heard Numpty Dillahunty talk about it.

[@jcs1025]

People tie themselves in knots trying to sync the Bible with science.

[@torontoash45]

you can`t they are different

[@ralfhaggstrom9862]

Yep, and I have been an Atheist since I was born, 66 years ago. It pisses me off when my Dogs and Cat are praying Every Fucking Day, ................

[@brucebaker810]

Nuts tying themselves in knots. Straining at gnats. Nattering through the night. Fighting the power of Not.

[@brucebaker810]

Call the guys with the nets,

[@penderkev]

"God made all the trees with fruit with seeds" ipso facto seedless fruit is the work of the Devil ;-)

[@johnsperry9494]

When I was 5 or 6 years old, my parents gave me books about Aesop’s fables, Mother Goose stories, Fairy tales, etc., and almost all of those stories had talking animals. I asked my Dad if animals can really talk, and he told me that it was make-believe (which I later labeled Suspended disbelief). I put those books on my make-believe shelf, along with Mickey Mouse, Peter Rabbit, and Winnie the Pooh. One day my Presbyterian grandmother gave me a book of Bible stories for children. In the very first story, I found a talking snake. That book went straight to the make-believe shelf, where it has remained for over 65 years.

[@jackwhitbread4583]

I was given a book of bible stories aimed at children from my Catholic father at around the same age, while he was not what I would call a practicing Catholic he was a believer. Despite that fact I never was and I always kind of treated that story book the same way I did all my other fiction books, I never really gave the Christian faith much thought other than I knew it was fictional. It kind of blows my mind that so many adults buy into the supernatural.

[@o0Avalon0o]

This is actually relaxing after dealing with the news.

[@betsyduane3461]

This is like trying to argue that the Lord of the Rings is a true account of Earth's history, as much proof there as the Bible What someone wrote down 3000 years ago has no bearing on reality.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

One day I realized the incoherent passages in the Bible were interfering with my normal thinking process.

[@tonygriffin_]

Hold on! Are you telling me those three films weren't documentaries?

[@ralfhaggstrom9862]

@@JamesRichardWiley I did that in the late 50s, ................

[@ralfhaggstrom9862]

Beginning to Read and Write as 4 years old ...............

[@rockysandman5489]

@@tonygriffin_ They are in a parallel universe.

[@bradgaines]

The scary thing is she's probably a high school science teacher.

[@miranda.cooper]

I doubt it, actually. Or at least... I doubt she's the science teacher for a well funded and highly credited public high school.

[@dj24555]

I attended a middle school with a science teacher who was pro- literal creationism. He would always complain about things in the text books and make comments like "now I have to teach this, but I dont believe in it. Our founding fathers based our constitution off of christian values and were christians, therefore etc....." so yep I wouldnt doubt it.

[@dj24555]

He threw a chair one time when I angered him on politics. he also pointed to the class and called me a perfect example of a liberal.

[@bradgaines]

@@miranda.cooper I think you would be very surprised.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Just like Ken Ham before he discussed the Bible with a Creationist.

[@michael.prescott4016]

sounds like my batshit crazy sister,

[@jonathanmoore467]

Mine too

[@at6686]

These folks just press on with their prepared line no matter how they are confronted. It’s almost like...a...sermon.

[@infidelcastro5129]

If people took all that effort they put into the mental gymnastics they perform in order to justify their myths, and invested it in learning real stuff, they’d make so much more intellectual progress.

[@isaiahbangura4421]

She doesn't know diddly squat from diddly squat.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

these people (!) always remind me of kindergarten kids, you just can't put things simply enough for them, they still don't get it.

[@TheZombieSaints]

The fact that she had to THINK about which is older, the sun or earth is just unreal! 🤦‍♂️

[@tragedydavillainjoker8136]

It's completely unfathomable That we live in a society With the people who actually go on living life Thinking like this

[@jarrod752]

Matt should have told her to look at the creation narrative in chapter 2 and compare it to chapter 1. That might have blown her mind.

[@theStrayKat1980]

Wait, what? She HAS a mind??? - it seems quite clear she's incapable of using her 'mind' for thinking... (stumped by the age of the sun and earth?)

[@debranelson1987]

I think the lights are out in this woman's brain.

[@cinnasharon980]

She's indoctrinated so you're correct.

[@user-ci4nx6kj8n]

Painful. I feel so sorry for her, really. It’s an absolute tragedy that a grown adult could be led to believe such ridiculous bullshit.

[@pdute1]

She sounded like a precocious 7 year old with a voice modulator to make her sound older. Her rationalizations seem to be 7 year old or so level as well.

[@dynamic9016]

Love listening to this show.

[@iggysfriend4431]

"Which is older, the sun or the earth"..... silence. This question completely stumped her. Then she continues to argue. Oh dear.

[@Rendezvous70]

She is not listening to what Matt is say , she is just thinking of how to interpret her book to fit her narrative

[@dankrauz1036]

Marie, In the native tongue "dances with words".

[@andrewlockett4569]

Yeah and then following said dance she goes home to prepare yet another soggy salad of wimpy words!

[@krisaaron5771]

As soon as callers start pouring out words faster and faster and talking over Matt it's obvious they realize they got it wrong and are desperately trying to paper over their mistake. Poor Marie stepped right in it with her misreading of Genesis and general confusion about the "order of creation". She didn't bother to carefully study her own "holy writ" before placing the call and now looks like an idiot.

[@ericthemovieguy]

I'm sure she looked like an idiot way before her call

[@themanwithnoname1839]

None of them study their cult book, example, they THINK because theyre forgiven of their sins they wont be punished, but NO WHERE does it say if you ask forgiveness you shall be given it and also not punished, its a lot like a murderer being forgiven, does that mean they DONT still go to prison? Lmfao, also, theyre liars, "we dont follow the old testament" yet the ten commandments come from the old testament.....

[@franciscosustek7249]

Her holy sh*t?

[@jpapan1]

6:00 phenomenal. "Which is older, the sun or the earth? According to your bible, which is older? According to you, which is older? According to science, which is older? " This is applicable to so many things today. What is true? Well...it depends who you ask...if objective reality doesn't matter to you

[@faekaloderbondageclown7789]

5:50 shows perfectly clear what's wrong with these lunatics.

[@bme7491]

UMMMMMM.........................

[@Blubb5000]

Matt states a scientific question and this religiously brainwashed caller looks for the answer in the Bible. It was clear that her answer will have nothing to do with reality.

[@simay4977]

Wow. The fact that she has to think about whether the Sun is older than the Earth. Just wow.

[@gobbygoo3981]

You could almost see the smoke coming out of her ears...

[@david-dj8or]

Well God needed light to see what he was doing when he built earth. So maybe at first he was using a portable generator and lead light.

[@Towdadddy]

No God can see in the dark

[@Towdadddy]

@Richard Ball the fact that you wrote a paragraph in response to an ironic KZbin comment might be an indication that you are a little slow on the uptake😂😴 And if you knew that I intended to use punctuation why even write the former part of your dogmatic comment 🥱🥱

[@edwardparker760]

Ah yes, but you forget that he had to create long dead squashed trees and dinosaurs first to get the oil to fuel the generator, I would have loved to see Gods To Do list!

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Very good! 5 stars. Lead light = LED (light emitting diode)

[@mrpiepantsmcgee]

What part of the electromagnetic spectrum do you guys think God sees in?

[@davidzeledon61]

I was raised as a Jehovah witness, I'm getting close to 50 years of age and when I was 18 years old I started having some questions regarding religion. I still believed in the existence of God, after some time I began looking deeper in the subject and with critical thinking I concluded that there is no evidence of the existence of God nor is the Bible the word of God. One day driving home with the family my small children asked me what the Bible said about God creating man, I told the the story, some time later my 12 year old said to me that he felt that the Bible story of man's creation sound it a bit like a story and that it didn't make sense. I'm glad that my children have the opportunity to know when things sound a bit like a story, not like when my parents taught me that the Bible is the word of God and that we mortals should never questioned what's in it. Even children when given the opportunity can make sense of the world around them, I will explain things to them as they grow and ask questions about religion and God and give them the opportunity to be adults free of the chains of religion.

[@davidzeledon61]

@Timothy Babcock I am sorry for what you went through and I want to thank you for sharing your story. We are all better off without religion and I truly think we can be better people without it. I wish you the best, I am also an etheist and I'm finally not afraid to let people know that I'm an atheist, it feels great!!

[@Paolo8772]

You weren't mean, Matt: She talked all over you and didn't listen. Just infuriating. I praise your patience, even if you don't require praise like some fictional characters I can think of. ;)

[@lmoral222]

She got some balls. I wouldn't dare go against AE with this little preparation.

[@incoldblood975]

"Which is older the sun or the earth? Ummm....." Damn the fact that she even has to think about that question makes me sad.

[@rocktober1327]

She missed the verse about being prepared.

[@SeventeenSphinx]

I’m cracking up

[@oxidize11]

"this is what I think, and you can't convince me otherwise" is this biggest flaw in humans.

[@GoodBrotherGrimm]

I disagree, and you can't make me agree.

[@pinenutpatriot1931]

POOR MARIE SHE IS LOST IN FAITH AND HOPE

[@jasons8479]

Let's all pray for her.

[@dfadden62]

Mighty wind. God farted.

[@andybeans5790]

In Babylonian mythology the god of storms lived in a castle in the clouds that had a big hole in the floor. It didn't _say_ rain was actually god-piss, but...

[@craigkelly4278]

@@andybeans5790 lol

[@whatwouldjudydo_]

Haha ha

[@Aminah6623]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@craigkelly4278]

@Laura Streeter yes we know

[@stellis69]

I create mighty winds all the time when I eat dairy with buffalo hot sauce. It makes me feel super godly.

[@nathanmckenzie904]

You can hear the gears grinding in her head

[@markfindlay8636]

Very little gears!

[@lionharpmusic]

When I watch and listen to these videos, I lose my faith in humanity.

[@sbongakonkendlovu7436]

Thought I was the only one

[@slyspy333]

I agree.

[@jasons8479]

I lose brain cells. Good thing I had more than 2 to start out with, unlike many of the callers.

[@wp4866]

i believe, therefore facts fail. so there.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

I don't want reality. I want Jesus.

[@sigmaoctantis1892]

It's called Rationalist Epistemology. I believe therefore it is fact! Now I'll go and find some reasons to justify my belief.

[@greyeyed123]

Even as a child, I didn't understand this thinking. What does she think is going to happen? Matt, and all scientists who ever lived, are going to slap their foreheads and realize the Bible is right and all evidence ever discovered must be wrong? That no one has ever read the Bible and compared it to reality? That reading the Bible would lead to any useful scientific information at all?

[@trustinjesus1119]

If you can't express any useful internal perceptions of how things seem and feel to you, how you are, what it is your existence entails from the standpoint of being human and can only relate to others 3rd-person data isn't helping your side of this debate. I don't internalize "atheism" and you don't either.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

And highly intelligent people have gotten PhD's in this nonsense.

[@greyeyed123]

@@trustinjesus1119 Your comment makes no sense. "Useful internal perceptions" are only useful if you test them against reality to see if they work. THAT'S what makes them useful, NOT that they are internal. The caller's perceptions about the bible are clearly wrong, as they do not scan to reality. They don't even scan to common sense. Again, what does she think is going to happen? That scientists never bothered to read the bible to discover DNA, relativity, or quantum mechanics? Half the time you people tell us the bible is "not a science book", and the other half you tell us it is true because it agrees with science (when it clearly does not).

[@trustinjesus1119]

@@greyeyed123 How do you know what is spoken externally is even true internally as it applies to another person? Matt's central goal here is the separation of Church and State: The Atheist Experience is a production of the Atheist Community of Austin (ACA), an educational non-profit organization based in Austin, Texas, which has as a central goal the promotion of positive atheism and the separation of church and state.[3] [3] "The Atheist Community of Austin". Retrieved April 3, 2012. Asking people to call into his "educational" show to give Matt Dillahunty their/our beliefs while screeners specifically exclude knowledge (education), only putting though self-described "Creationists" (Flat Earthers) is neither useful nor educational *_because beliefs cannot be divined by 2nd-, and 3rd-parties with religious axes to grind.z_* Matt's theology is not a charity and it's not educational. It's *NOT* "scientific" to ask people what their (our) beliefs are, they're too important to discuss with people looking to excoriate us. What's wrong with you that you can't understand _that?!_ Oh yeah, I believe everything Matt Dillahunty says, now can he please STFU!

[@greyeyed123]

@@trustinjesus1119 I seriously have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to say your beliefs are so important that they cannot be examined critically at all. That makes them indistinguishable from delusions and mental illness. Did you understand MY point? That the caller doesn't appear to know, even on a basic level, what she expects to happen by using the bible to question science (and reality) itself. She bounces back and forth between trying to make science fit the bible, and making the bible fit science, because deep down she know science has the evidence, so if she wants to believe the bible, it better fit with the evidence (and science). Yet taking five seconds to think about it would make her realize that makes no sense. If there was anything useful scientifically in the bible, people would have discovered that hundreds of years ago. Every time scientists TRIED to make the bible fit science, they failed. Even Newton said that god had to have put the planets in their places because there could be no other explanation of how they got there. Well, luckily subsequent scientists ignored that declaration and now we know how the planets were formed. If you want to try to explain your point again, I will listen. I honestly don't get you.

[@ethanmunroe8949]

This is my new favorite show I love listening. I am a proud atheist

[@AngryBoozer]

Ethan Munroe I don’t take pride per se. Look at how proud theists are and what arrogant tosspots they come off as.

[@GamerGirl_BRE]

Matt, what a coincidence, I got an ad for an Audio Bible😂

[@stefanniemiec8727]

Imagine how much the human race could progress if all the effort that is put into trying to force the stories of the Bible into some sense, was actually put into the science that has brought us to where we are now!!!

[@shinyheart3373]

I am baffled how confused she is about something so simple. That's humbling actually. I could be wrong about something that I don't know I am wrong about and nobody shows me that I am wrong. Lol

[@starfishsystems]

You could be wrong, or so could I. But when presented with a more coherent account of the situation, would either of us dig in our heels and say, "No. I have my FAITH in what is true"? I hope not!

[@cyansloth1763]

Fun fact: formless deep aka primordial water 💧 came from the Egyptian mythology that dates back to old kingdom texts as where all life came from; creation myth that existed 2k BEFORE the Israelites version of the story after Egypt conquered most of canaanite land end of middle to new kingdom time period.

[@donharris8846]

To me, the creation of day and night has always been the nail in the coffin. There is no such thing as day from a general perspective, yet if you were an ancient author creating a story from your own perspective it might seem that way. Imagine what day would look like from a God’s perspective. It’s utter nonsense

[@geezzerboy]

Matt may as well try to teach his dog to drive a car.

[@dinosdagkas917]

Great chanel....greetings from Greece...

[@agent-sz2qj]

Yugi : i have faith in my cards. Matt Dillahunty : so you have chosen death.

[@TheReclaimer1321]

Except in Yugioh, there’s a demonstrable, falsifiable card spirit dimension where the entities on the card art are real, and various individuals throughout the series not only form bonds with these entities but physically enter their dimension and interact with them. It’s actually more viable than any real world religious claim. Yugi has a genuine justification to have faith in his cards in both a colloquial sense since he really wants to win, and in a real sense since even in card form, they can seemingly have a will of their own. Of course, Yugi and Atem are also just fucking magical cheaters, but they apparently don’t do it intentionally most of the time lol

[@agent-sz2qj]

+@@TheReclaimer1321 good points

[@tonybennett4159]

There was a great wind : except you can't have a wind without a heat source.

[@tiwoni972mad]

Never knew that. Thanks

[@drg8687]

@@tiwoni972mad the wind is just a convection current

[@LeonardLeon]

wind is caused by difference in pressure. There are instances of wind without heat source, like the down draft of a storm. it can become a powerfull low altiude wind. evidently, you are right, though. the pressure variations are consequences of heating

[@johna3607]

Matt drops the microphone. Boom! Served.

[@mynorgonzalez7962]

Poor girl, in century 21 still in darkness.

[@skyforge118]

Creationist Bible thumper called me the other day. He had to go for lunch after 50 minutes. Don't think it went the way he planned. Thanks Matt for educating us in a way we can respond to those righteous bullies. So many holes in the religion. Just talk about those points - Who is sending who to hell. According to him god gave us a choice. But god knowing the future eliminates free choice. I chose not to go to hell....who is sending me there now. I like the wife talking loud analogy. you tell your wife not to talk loud to you and if she does you slap her. If she talks loud afterwards, who is doing the slapping....You or your wife? They have absolutely no comeback to this analogy. - Who planted the tree of knowledge. Knowing that god knows the future. By planting the tree and knowing the future, god committed genocide once again. - Why did god have kill all the animals during the flood. Weren't they innocent? God being all powerful wasn't there an alternative? - How would you not characterize the flood as a genocide? - Why does god sanction slavery? - Earth 6000 yrs old? where do the dinosaurs fit in? I could go on and on but with just these points you can hold your own with any of these bullies.

[@johnkelly1577]

Sky Forge I think it's obvious what happened to the dinosaurs. Noah had to make a hard decision,ended up feeding them to the rest of the carnivores. One big ass dino would probably be quite a banquet. Can't you just see them looking at each other and getting more and more nervous as their numbers dwindled towards the end of the voyage.

[@markcostello5120]

It was the tree of knowledge of good and evil. which actually puts a big flaw in the original sin claim because if Adam and Eve didn't know it was wrong to disobey God until they ate from the tree then where does original sin come from?

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Religion is a learned program that can turn off logic circuits in the brain. If you introduce the right stimulus at the right time you can crash the program. The danger is the frightened reaction that follows. I did this to my mother once and she collapsed. My dad was pissed.

[@blueelaney7758]

@@markcostello5120 Well, they DID know they were allowed to eat the fruit from every tree (including the tree of life) EXCEPT the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. I think that is enough information passed on for a human to know they were not supposed to mess with that tree. When you tell a child not to touch a hot stove, don't they have the option on whether or not to actually touch the stove? You could have turned the stove off, or simply not turned on the stove in the first place to prevent the possibility of the child burning themselves at all. But the fact is that there is a stove; the stove is on; the stove is hot; you told the child not to touch the stove. But then the child touches the stove. If you were the judge of the scenario, where would you place the fault??

[@andrewjonas6437]

@@blueelaney7758 where would I place the blame??? on the kid that touched the stove ,on me for not turning it off, or on the manufacturer that didnt make an auto function ,so that the stove would turn off if ..(include scenario) .. Choices huh? Why should anyone be blamed?? The principle of Cause and Effect : if u didnt have a kid the problem of a kid gettin burned by the stove wouldnt have occured. There are so many problems and stress that would have been avoided just by not havin a kid . Now , im not saying do not have kids,dont misunderstand. But by havin a kid you just provided a Condition to future Effects(cause and effect)a.k.a problems. Likewise havin a stove also may lead to future disasters if all the neccesary conditions were provided .That doesnt mean dont buy a stove. All im sayin is dont get mad and start blamin everybody because the whole existence is Cause and Effect and u cant do nothin about it. I mean u could become a monk but even there u would fulfill a condtion to some future Effect. I find it amusing ,the only way out of all problems forever, is getting out of existence.

[@TrejoDuneSea]

That long uncomfortable pause when asked which is older, the sun or the Earth. Unbelievable...

[@kw8757]

Shows the level of her intelligence. She's never thought to read an actual scientific text, even a basic, simple one written for children. She's just stuck with her fictional bible. I actually feel sorry for her because she's probably been brainwashed since she was a child. It's sad.

[@JesusIstheNameTakenInVain]

How often that happens the victim accuses the other of what they went thru. In this case brainwashing.

[@AndrewBackhouse1]

Both formed from the same gas cloud. I think you'll find it's not quite the simple answer you think it is.

[@VogtTD]

Matt says he is going in order as he literally jumps around, going up to 15 then back to 11 and 12.

[@jasontheconner6120]

What is bigger, the Universe or the Moon? Ummmmmm........

[@timothybrown5999]

Marie is hung up on there being day and night, claiming it’s because the sun was there. The problem is the people who wrote this literally believed it was day everywhere at the same time, then night. It never occurred to them that day and night were happening at the same time at different places. This is why the sun isn’t listed first even though it needed to exist first for earth and the other planets to orbit it.

[@philojudaeusofalexandria9556]

'3 major religions'? Does she think Judaism is a 'major religion'? Because Hinduism is the 3rd most 'major', followed by Buddhism, Shintoism, Sikhism, and THEN Judaism (on the level with local tribal religions). Judaism just gets attention because of its connection to Islam and Christianity, but there aren't enough adherents to call it major (let alone the 3rd most major), IMO.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Why do Christians worship a Hebrew desert god that kills unborn babies?

[@philojudaeusofalexandria9556]

@@JamesRichardWiley Because making sense is for non-believers. "...the wisdom of the world is foolishness to God."

[@philojudaeusofalexandria9556]

@Kali Southpaw In the USA, Mormonism has more adherents than Judaism, so it's wrong even in the US. I brought it up because it confused me at first. I thought she was talking about Christianity, Islam, and either Hinduism or Buddhism as the 3rd... That is, until she got further and I realized she couldn't be talking about any of the actual major religions as her 3rd. It distracts from your argument/comments when the first thing you say is laughably wrong.

[@anthonyshinde9662]

@@JamesRichardWiley wht is killing unborn babies pls clarify i dont know this.

[@Robeebert]

whenever she is presented with something she can't argue against, she deflects to something new just to save her faith.

[@brucebaker810]

Yet, let the convo continue for a few hours. Would "oh, but thats the ooooooold testament" come up?

[@richiejohnson]

very wise question!

[@powerdavid6235]

Ouch, that was really painful.

[@ramakrishnakamathsuresh1076]

The caller is so desperate to reinterpret rephrase or do whatever is in her power to get her holy book to conform with scientific facts. It's like she is so strongly anchored in her holy book, that she cannot simply accept that it is full of scientifically inaccurate and superstitious claims.

[@amd77j]

And her book sounds like someone trying to tell a story without all the EVIDENCE SCIENCE has brought forth since then. But since their book can't change, because, well, it is THE BOOK, we end up with these people just sounding misinformed to no end.

[@paulybarr]

Yes, that's usually what happens. isn't it? I believe the expression is 'cognitive dissonance.'

[@craigkelly4278]

Poor woman this is indoctrination at its worst

[@andybeans5790]

I think she's feeling some dissonance and trying to project how she wishes she was, instead of facing the fact that she is more moral and sensible than the book she is convinced is perfect. She can't see that she's better than her religion, because she has been convinced that being a slave to her religion is "perfection".

[@JamesRichardWiley]

She has no choice but to abandon two centuries of scientific knowledge and teach her children to believe in the magical man in the sky.

[@Itsjojorose]

This is a pretty good example of what it’s like to hold a conversation with a Virginian

[@svenred6eard757]

I actually feel sad for this caller

[@visforvegan8]

The fact that her bible has footnotes is all the proof you need it's not the word of a perfect being.

[@UltraCasualPenguin]

Someone listens too much Kent Hovind's nonsense.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Kent Hovind and Ken Ham both talk faster than my brain can process their words. I finally stopped listening to protect my brain.

[@joegoze7284]

. . . it just hurts to hear stuff like this . . . so depressing

[@buninparadise9476]

intellectual level: 4 year old kid

[@Hannibu]

Please do not insult poor 4 year old kids.

[@shauncarelse7993]

Damn i love these callers, sheeet this is just entertainment for my a...

[@grantwing4942]

There were 2 suns. The first one disappeared as the second one came into being. There now it fits.

[@ahyote4936]

It doesn't say 2 suns it says 2 lights ruling at different times, It means the sun and the moon. Biblical writers didn't know the moon gets its light from the sun and it's not its own individual "light".

[@hegyak]

@@karlrschneider I tried this real quick in Universe Sandbox. Pluto, is no longer part of the Solar System after I did that. Probably due to the Second Sun, colliding with Pluto. So, at least we resolved that problem.

[@AC-gb7do]

hegyak What’s Universe Sandbox, sounds interesting.

[@supertouring22]

@@AC-gb7do You wanting to play god? 🤣

[@AC-gb7do]

supertouring22 I couldn’t F up worse than Christianity’s imaginary friend.

[@garyking9484]

Reading comprehension is a serious thing. See what happens when adults are in love with a story that is a lie?

[@ethanmunroe8949]

WeLl mY bIbLE SaYs THaT

[@jcab404]

It says so in the bible though.

[@oliveryt7168]

She's that kind of person who would rather believe that the humankind developed from 2 persons than that all life of earth developed from unicellular organisms.

[@BrianBakerCA]

Blissful ignorance is nicer to deal with than arrogant ignorance but it makes it harder for them to realize how wrong they have it... I really hope she does some learning

[@rockmanharbinger3622]

NEVER HAPPEN😎.

[@Bailer86]

Take a shot every time the caller says "light"

[@Intergalatikk]

bUt mUh BuYbiL saYs 😂

[@yep_2431]

3:40 lol at the host taking a nap during the boring Bible reading

[@philojudaeusofalexandria9556]

Marie says 'Night and Day' and 'Light' means the Sun. She still does not explain how you can create the Sun in v.16 when it was already created in v.4/5. And even if that were possible, what kind of idiot god needs to create the same thing twice? Did he screw up the Sun-creation the first time like he screwed up with creating humans?

[@craigkelly4278]

Print error is possible given so many translations

[@craigkelly4278]

@MrStripeyDog Ok not sure what I did to upset you but if you don't like the answers you get don't ask such questions because you waste my time and yours and others.

[@craigkelly4278]

@MrStripeyDog opinions aren't stupid Facts do not care about your feelings.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

God is supposed to be a genius and he wrote this idiotic fairy tale?

[@kidslovesatan]

@MrStripeyDog "Try again, and use logic, science and critical thinking like theists do" - So basically DON'T use them.

[@Jenalgo]

"Hello. I'm an idiot theist calling in to school you in my book of ancient fairy stories."

[@hdub8093]

Matt: "which is older, the sun or the earth?".... Marie: "hmmmmm.." and there's your answer, and she keeps saying: "I believe... my bible.."

[@Pinbackker]

Dave is my favorite co host

[@seanjones2456]

Next on Marie's to do list is to call Lebron James and tell him how to successfully play the game of basketball.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Does she have children?

[@jarrod752]

Yes, I believe basketball was covered in the gospels somewhere...

[@mischarowe]

There is no conversation that goes 'bible vs reality' that I can take seriously.

[@The.Intruder]

What this caller is doing by messaging and reshaping is nothing new. The reviewers of the Bible take points such as hers and from others including non Christians and their issues with the Bible and tweak, message, change and match. Nothing new. A Christian will probably deny this and I would like them in that case to answer why are there so many revisions of the Bible? How can you revise what a perfect God said? The revisions are nothing but attempts at "correcting" mistakes pointed out.

[@The.Intruder]

*message = massage

[@JamesRichardWiley]

None of that matters to a true believer. All together now... "I believe in one God, the father almighty, maker of heaven and earth...." Again, louder this time. "I believe in one God, the father almighty..."! Again.

[@Danny451]

5:31, Matt asked the lady how does she get around that glaring conflict in Genesis. Her answer: "Because I BELIEVE..." Avoiding conflicts are easy for the "Christians."

[@gordon3186]

I've yet to meet a layman who disputes Evolution because he's impartial and weighed the evidence. To a man, everyone I've encountered who does so, does because he's wedded to a literal interpretation of a Bronze Age Creation myth that he's decided is 'revealed truth'.

[@kevind6723]

The fact that she has to go mmmm and take a really long fucking time to answer the question what is older the sun or the earth is terrifying.

[@lelandstronks319]

This is so sad that people are this caught up in this book, which is so stupid it can’t even relate to common sense.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

No need to take mind altering drugs when you have the magical land of Yahweh waiting for your conversion.