The BIGGEST WIN-WIN Trades in the NHL

In today's video we go over 6 of the biggest win-win trade scenarios that have taken place in the modern NHL era.
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[@RobTalksHockey]

What is the biggest win-win trade you can think of!?

[@G0bz]

As a habs fan, I would go with the Sergachev/Drouin deal. The lightnings got a youuuung nhl ready defensman, which had an impact right off the bat at his first season with tampa. On the other hand, my team got a young kid too (who speak french and is from here btw)with a skill celling very very high. Just gotta wait for him to explode. He had the best season start of his life this year. Very looking forward him to come back from his injury !! Anyway, that's my opinion.

[@fatkidinc.3058]

Habs fan here. The Patch-Tatar trade came to my mind immediately

[@superspeed9238]

Mike Richards to LA

[@noahdavis8866]

Rob Talks Hockey I gotta day the one in the thumbnail because how do you top that? One team gets the final piece to push them to 2 Stanley cups and the other get rid of the final piece that stopped them from getting the 1st overall pick plus gets a good young player and most of the necessary pieces to acquire an elite starting goalie.... Big Win Big Win

[@noahdavis8866]

Fat Kid Inc. leaf fan here and as much as I hate to give the Habs credit I think they are the clear cut winners in that one

[@LandlordNebula]

LOL larsson hall nice one

[@RobTalksHockey]

Ahaha

[@masondunn1320]

Rob Talks Hockey neither team ended up winning anything, and Hall has 1 playoff win so lose lose

[@parkersullivan2234]

@@masondunn1320 not Hall's fault, hes been good

[@masondunn1320]

Parker Sullivan don’t matter Hall left for nothing, Larson is still there

[@mahockey3]

As an Edmontonian, I really disagree with this being a bad trade though. I hated Hall so fucking much. Saw him at the bar once and he had such an "I'm better than you" attitude. Imagine bringing that toxicity into the locker room.

[@DeadHead017]

How about phil kessel's toonie for a hot dog? Why isn't that on the list, I'd say that is a win win

[@mattm7788]

2:40, by that logic, the Hall trade was a massive win for the Oilers. They were able to add more generational talent and a solid defensemen for a guy who's been on 4 teams in a few years.

[@tomwilson3969]

Could you imagine if Matthews ended up on the Oilers playing next to Conor Mcdavid. There is potential for 80-100 goals there

[@stevenilijanich1248]

I have to disagree with one trade. Columbus won the trade, Seth Jones is far better of a player then Ryan Johansson.

[@magnuspearson3406]

They dont match in skill but Nashville needed a solid forward, and already had enough D, columbus had offensive skill and needed a defender

[@stevenilijanich1248]

@@magnuspearson3406 I know what you mean but I think Nashville should of got more.

[@forgottenfamily]

win-win is not the same as fair value. This video is about win-win trades.

[@stevenilijanich1248]

@@forgottenfamily You're correct on saying the video is about win win but your not comprehending the factor of that seth jones is a far better player and worth a lot more then his trade deemed. I understand both teams "won" but Columbus got a top 2D and a dude with potentially to be one of the best D in the game where the preds got a player who's downgrading in skill and on a good team hes an elite 2nd liner and a decent 1 st liner. Stating that this is a win win and not relating it to a fairness factor is ignorant and naive. The value of each player still matters and at the end of the day the trade is still a goos trade but the preds should of received a bit more to truly balance the trade and solidify the stigma of "win win" that you preach.

[@forgottenfamily]

@@stevenilijanich1248 You are not properly taking into account the relative value of a 3rd scenario: if the trade had not happened. Did they lose more by trading for less than fair value than they would have lost had the trade not happened? You would be hard pressed to convince me that a 30% shot of a NHL regular in that 2nd rounder is worth more than the differential in talent when we consider that Seth Jones's additions were limited and Johansson's contributions were revolutionary for their team. Once you get past that, it becomes about what the risk factors involved were with continuing to negotiate for fair value. They had a luxury they could afford to spend - they were stacked in D due to good drafting and good development. Overpaying ensured the trade could happen. Seth Jones could not be used as a top pair on their team. Ergo: overpaying was acceptable. It still counts as win-win.

[@zachludwig6964]

Just found this channel a few days ago. And all I can say it’s a hidden gem 💎

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks man. Really appreciate that

[@cameronarsenault1698]

Pacioretty for Tatar was a huge win for the habs and last year Tatar was arguably better than pacioretty alone

[@RobTalksHockey]

Definitely, but also take into consideration that Tatar doesn’t produce unless a change happens. I would take Patches every day of the week, but in 3-5 years, Montreal May be the clear winner, but that’s what it takes when you want a serious cup run

[@cameronarsenault1698]

Rob Talks Hockey Yes Montreal is the clear winner because they got future elite top 6 forward in Suzuki and a second

[@Frazynator]

@@RobTalksHockey Mtl are the immediate winner. Paccy vs Tatar, SUZUKI and a 2nd ?

[@rosshugecaulk]

You deserve more subscribers my guy. I seriously enjoy your videos.

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks man! Means a lot

[@Itz0rca]

Ross Time your right he does

[@lukas187x]

No love for the recent Cup winners in the Caps and Blues? Trading TJ Oshie to DC actually helped set both teams up for their respective Cup wins. The Blues took longer, but their asset management deserves praise as it also netted them key players for their own Cup run.

[@carlton3741]

Ken Hamada That trade wasn’t really a win-win lol maybe the 3rd round pick they used to move up two spots to draft Tage Thompson and later flipped him for O’Rielly? 🤷‍♂️

[@RatioThen]

From 10:53 to 11:01, it reminded me of the subban-weber trade. What you said is so true.

[@ballistiks]

Nice video Rob! Appreciate you still putting in the time for KZbin despite your busy schedule

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks dude!

[@95integra420]

You hit the leafs win-win bang on man. Love it 🤙🤙

[@vk6554]

Love ur videos mate, best hockey channel on KZbin. And go canucks!

[@justincredible5414]

Ok. Seen a few of your vids now and def had to Sub. Keep it up Rob. Great content so far 👍

[@mateokyriacou1141]

Honestly back into hockey and I’ve been hooked on all your videos and I’m always in my sub box looking for ur vids

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thank you! appreciate the support 👍

[@exoticcompilations6915]

you really have to hit me, been an oilers fan my entire life and you really had to do me like that with the taylor hall for larson trade😭

[@spuglife]

Exotic vlogs & gaming That Seth Jones, Ryan Johansen trade makes it look even worse. Columbus got Seth g Green for a player who probably has less value than Taylor Hall. We got Larson, a #4 dman at best. Damn you, Chia.

[@Insigne_]

hey ive only watch a couple of your vids so far but im really enjoying them keep it up!!

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks man! Appreciate it

[@nhlhockeynewsreports5360]

I can’t stop watching your videos 😂😂😂😂

[@RobTalksHockey]

Haha thanks man

[@tazmania5891]

The Matt Duchene trade to Ottawa, Colorado ended up getting a top ten first round pick in 2018. Then a second round pick in 2019.

[@johnfleming4886]

Taz Mania Ottawa was the loser there

[@loganmclarry]

You're missing the part where Ottawa technically traded the Avs Kyle Turris, who the Avs flipped for Girard, Kamenev, and a 3rd (?). Andrew Hammond also came to Colorado too.

[@KIDZXGETZXSCARED]

habs also got another draft pick, mattias norlinder, in the pacioretty trade. Hes a pretty decent offensive defensman prospect

[@mars9716]

Love the vids

[@coyotessuperfanhowl1542]

Omg imagine Mcdavid draisaitl And auston Matthews on the same line if that happpend

[@birdiec]

And having Scott Sabourin, Auston Watson, and Dominik Kahun as your second line because your top 3 forwards just EAT your cap

[@kadinallan2436]

@@birdiec I genuinely think that wouldn't matter. McDavid and Matthews possibly be one of the greatest duos the nhl would ever see. The most talented player ever with the most talented goal scorer ever

[@joer8854]

@@kadinallan2436 Especially when you get multiple big assholes and a number of decent stay at home D. You use the other 3 lines to beat the living hell out of teams on the boards.

[@karinelemaire6402]

Nice vids!

[@chrispswann6825]

The Edmonton Oilers trading Esa Tikkanen to the NY Rangers for Doug Weight in 1993. Tikkanen helped the NY Rangers win the Stanley Cup in 1994 while Weight would be one of Edmonton's best players for the next 7 seasons.

[@xapangoat]

old head

[@sensfan7550]

Can you please make a video on which teams you think will get number 1-31 picks in the draft and who they'll pick. An update one.

[@RRaquello]

Speaking of Kessel, I would argue that the Kessel to Toronto trade was one of the biggest lose-lose trades in history. Boston gives up Kessel, but in the next couple of years they were close to winning the cup. They won in 2011, but came up short a couple of the other years, with their weakness being seen as a lack of secondary scoring. At that time, Kessel was putting up excellent offensive numbers on a very weak Toronto team. It could be argued that with Kessel, they might have won one or even two additional cups. Meanwhile, the two picks Boston got for Kessel were turned into Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton, both of whom were quickly traded by Boston for dimes on the dollar, because both were seen to have "attitude" problems. And to top it off, one of the draft picks Boston got when they traded Hamilton to Calgary turned out to be notorious bust Zach Senyshyn, who they took instead of Matt Barzal, who was selected on the very next pick by the Islanders. What was considered to be an absolute steal of a deal by Boston when it was made turned into ashes. Meanwhile, while Toronto got good production from Kessel, he didn't turn out to be the "cornerstone" of the franchise that Brian Burke hoped for. The team missed the playoffs 5 of his 6 years while Kessel was with them, the one year they made it being their notorious meltdown against the Bruins in 2013. They were a rebuilding team at the time and would have been better served holding onto the picks they got for Kessel, who was more of a final piece than a foundation (as we saw in Pittsburgh). Thus, a trade that turned into a bomb for both teams.

[@nonokayakjack]

First time I've EVER heard anyone say this trade was a win for Pittsburgh. Here's a win-win trade: Tuuka Rask for Andrew (glove hand of a stroke victim) Raycroft Both wins to Boston.

[@Maxcardz]

Gooood vid

[@vinniedamphousse]

Can you do lose-lose trades?

[@froboy252]

My guy was aiming for 5k less than a year ago and is currently pushing for 40k, that’s impressive.

[@moinkyz1831]

Rob! Don’t know if this will get looked at by you, but I wanna start by saying you’ve been killing it with the content lately, and you got my sub a little while back! Great to see you’re getting more subs, but I’ve got a very minor bone to pick. You tend to start your videos off talking way too fast! That :35-:45 second span is where I really noticed jumbled words and you tend to finish “awesome hockey content” as “ awesome ockey ontent” I’m an east coast Canadian, so I know a thing or two about fast talking, but if you keep that energy but slow down the words per minute a bit it will be much easier to engage and feel like we’re being talked to instead of talked at Other than that, the only other complaint is that nucks jersey behind ya! (Much love!) Cheers

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks man. Much appreciated feedback. Funny enough this video was a while ago, but I now get comments saying I talk too slowly, except for maybe the subscribe part haha. Appreciate the support!

[@nagistratos]

LOL Kapenen went back to Pittsburg lmaoooooooooo

[@PindleofKujata]

"A large factor in why he left Winnipeg." The Jets would have easily given him that amount if it meant keeping him. Trouba had one foot out the door the entire time he was in Winnipeg.

[@stampedetrombone]

The flames and starts trade that brought Jerome Iginla to Calgary and a Stanley cup to Dallas.

[@adamjanks4966]

Nick Suzuki and Tomas Tatar for Max Paccioretty, Montreal I think one this one more but Vega def won also

[@wrydstepbr0_0]

I know this isn't exactly a win-win but as a Blues fan. I loved the O'Reilly trade...although trading my boy Oshie I wasn't a fan of but hey caps and blues both have a cup now so 🤷‍♂️...would have liked to see Oshie lift it in a Blues jersey though

[@razorwire3056]

Why not do one on lop-sided trades. The one that comes to my mind first is the Leafs/Flames deal that sent Leeman and others to Calgary and Gilmore and others to Toronto. An interesting side note to that trade is that video games at the time considered it so one-sided that they wouldn't let players make that trade while playing the video game. I can't think of any other trades that were so one-sided. Anyone else?

[@aaronr9977]

To this day we are still bitter about that trade in Calgary!

[@snfriedm]

Hall for larson

[@gameusedhockeysticks7433]

Do best draft steals like Zetterberg ans datsyuk

[@Banana-dd6yy]

What about the mike smith trade with Edmonton and Calgary that help both teams

[@Jb14puck]

You put the dougie Hamilton trade in your other win win trade video

[@RyanBrodie]

The Phil Kessel trade

[@zackashby9741]

IMO, Montreal won the Pacioretty trade. Suzuki is gonna be a Brayden point player, Romanov is gonna be a SOLID top 4 shutdown d man

[@aidanhill9036]

Where did u get the canucks led lights?

[@RobTalksHockey]

It’s a neon light! And I received it as a gift so unfortunately I don’t know. I believe from a company based in Vancouver

[@frenchyfrenchman5397]

The Tatar trade is a big win for Montreal now

[@ashtonb0419]

THOMAS TAAATAAR

[@daubeny.7287]

Benikers Tomas

[@ashtonb0419]

Daubeny.7 yea ask me if i care

[@richdaigle1031]

Hall for Larson; though one sided on the surface... Larson was exactly what the oilers needed at the time. A top pairing minute cruncher. 1 for 1 though... can’t help but look at Jones for Johansson and feel like it was a dump on Edmonton’s part

[@claya.bishop5356]

It makes me sad that the Penguins got Kappy back just for him to shit a brick. I still can't tell if he's just ass or if we didn't utilize him correctly

[@IHateMyAccountName]

Brayden Schenn for Morgan Frost, Joel Farabee, and (cap dump) Jori Lehtera.

[@andrekvam7897]

Alotta fun content and by far enough background, you do however have a tendency to swallow some words and let your tongue go road runner. I understand what you say cause I do that too, I'm just saying it might be something to work on. Great content again! Big up

[@Kim-if1qh]

What about Sergachev-Druin?

[@cinemasamuel]

Hey rob why don’t you go live anymore on twitch I check everyday

[@alexisbeatriz8496]

Toronto wasn't lucky winning the lottery in 2016. It was Toronto wins it or the NHL gets put under fire for Edmonton constantly winning the lottery and ideas that they want the disaster every teams favorite trade partner was getting favoritism so they could go back to winning cups.

[@trenthopper3554]

Where did you get your nucks lamp

[@RobTalksHockey]

I am not sure unfortunately, I received it as a gift! But I believe online from a place in Vancouver

[@trenthopper3554]

Rob Talks Hockey I really like it lol but it’s all good

[@spinthatwheel5584]

What about Kahun Maatta

[@Sleeper_productions]

You should use advanced stats instead of just points. Keep up the good work man

[@mariovaccarella6854]

Taylor Hall Fort Adam Larson isn't so One-Sided as you think. Even though Hall Won The Hart Trophy After That Trade (Apparently A Fleecing By The New Jersey Devils), Larson was A Solid Stay At Home Defenseman for The Edmonton Oilers until He Was Claimed by The Seattle Kraken and is Still Providing Good Defense To The Kraken. Let me know what you think (again, I acknowledge That MVP Season by Hall, and, would've preferred to have been The Devils).

[@gunsmithbasic]

I wouldn't include Marner or Matthews in the Kessel trade.

[@flipsolus]

going back from a recent video to this one.. at first I thought I accidently turned up the videospeed lol

[@RobTalksHockey]

I was talking a 1.5x speed lol

[@markus5554]

The 50th overall pick in the 2020 for Elise Anderson

[@GogetaStormer]

Winnipeg is currently winning the trouba trade. If you’re just comparing trouba and pionk, pionk has the much better season on a lower contract and we got pick.

[@spanny_2722]

As a rangers fan Mika from Ottawa for Derek brassard

[@chrispswann6825]

The Washington Capitals trading Jaromir Jagr to the NY Rangers for Anson Carter. The Rangers won because they got Jagr. The Capitals won because getting rid of Jagr allowed them to tank the 2003-04 season which allowed them to draft Alex Ovechkin.

[@blakesproule2165]

Heinola is a future maybe franchise d-man

[@dr.loomis4221]

"Writers tend to overuse "however" because they think it sounds more professional than "but". The truth, though, is that however is a clunky word that you should use carefully." - Write with Jean

[@adamjanks4966]

I think the josh Anderson and max domi will go down as a win win

[@goleafsgo8496]

Max Domi versus John Tortorella could prove to be very interesting. In his OHL days Domi was never known for his commitment to defense. With Tortz this could be a bit of an issue. Either Domi committs or he will sit?

[@AceMatthew25414]

I personally disagree with the Paccioretty for Tatar+Suzuki+2nd as being fair as Tatar alone has outscored Paccioretty and is miles ahead of him defensively and Suzuki is a top young player .... as of the last 2 year Tatar>> Paccioretty

[@Addicted2Dopamine]

“Massive” “Desperately”

[@emperorpalpatine1228]

If the Predators had kept David Legwand, they wouldn't have needed to trade Seth Jones for another Center.

[@miikaIS]

Hmm, there has never been win-win trade before 2010's 🤔. To be honest there are way better win-win trades in history than many of these. Iginla-Nieuwendyk or Recchi-LecLair pops to mind even without thinking. Good stuff, but maybe considering trades done 2018 or 2019 is too early?

[@RobTalksHockey]

For sure! I like to start these series with more recent trades, but when I make more parts, I will be including more examples throughout the times.

[@miikaIS]

@@RobTalksHockey And you actually say it in the the beginning of the video. I missed it in the first viewing, sorry. Maybe it could have been already in the title?

[@felixdarveau2613]

Vegas definitely lost the Pacioretty trade

[@codyallan9222]

What’s everyone’s opinion on the lucic Neal trade?

[@nakkedsnakee2758]

Codes Edmonton won by a mile

[@roofpizza1250]

Lucic is an anchor with a 5.25 million cap hit..... for 3 more friggin years after this one and you can't buy him out....And you need to protect him... And you can't trade him. HAHAHA.

[@nakkedsnakee2758]

roof pizza ik Like I rly question what went through Calgary’s management when they made the trade

[@conspicuousindividual2952]

Cal wins play 100 miles

[@roofpizza1250]

@@nakkedsnakee2758 At least you can buy out Neal.

[@bmass4915]

Biggest win win Chellios for Savard

[@TheDjcorey19]

Not sure what you consider modern era but Heatley for hossa was arguably the most fair trade ever

[@HavokR505]

iunno man. i think the jets won the trouba trade. everybody knew he wanted out AND basically wasnt signed anyways so they traded his rights for a 1st rounder and a guy who was probably ganna be a top 4 guy.

[@joshw604]

Yeah exactly. They could have ended up with nothing but instead pionk is super solid/more offensive than trouba. Though this video isnt really looking at the circumstances around the trades I guess.

[@CanadianLoveKnot]

CAR got screwed on that trade. If they could have signed Adam Fox it would have been about even.

[@that1hockeykid298]

I disagree with the Trouba Pionk trade I think Winnipeg won bc they dumped a what could have been for them huge contract for an ok season and pionk is one of the reasons winnipeg isn’t dead last

[@blap5630]

Imagine if the leafs didn’t trade their guys. Séguin Hamilton Rask... jc

[@iamNotHereB]

There's no guarantee Rask would have turned out so well with the 2005-2014 Leafs in front of him. They also might not have drafted Hamilton. Bozak would have been great to keep, but at the time they had Matthews, Tavares and Kadri. JVR wasn't worth keeping. His numbers would have fallen off likely falling to the 2nd power play and getting less overall icetime.

[@blap5630]

IJ Surname well yeah of course everything could’ve worked out differently but it’s nice to dream

[@iamNotHereB]

@@blap5630 Seguin would have been awesome, but I'm happy they have Matthews. Going forward I think he is the better of the two.

[@blap5630]

IJ Surname 100%

[@Maxx-di1fj]

Kapanens back on pens

[@hotdogwater7037]

wheres saad for panarin? wait, wrong video...all this talk about Nashville defensemen in a fair trades video, and no mention of subban for weber?

[@LiMitZplus]

idk how the nyr gm has a job after signing trouba to that

[@derektoy5830]

Tunaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa TATAR!!!!!!

[@mattm7788]

0:20 * Long-term success.

[@dmitirygalkovskiy6518]

DeAngelo and a firstt to the rangers and stepan and raanta to Arizona

[@gabe8581]

Wayne Gretzky to la JK

[@r4v3n5m4n14c52]

Leafs trade Kessel away. They get Kapanen, a first round pick flipped for Frederik Andersen. Pens get Kessel and win 2 consecutive cups.

[@joer8854]

They got Matthews and they got another first round pick from the pens when they traded Kapanen back and that trade is still paying off.

[@atemi3217]

JONES-JOHANSEN IS A WIN-WIN? KEKW

[@germanationhighlights6365]

What about the Weber / Subban trade?

[@fatkidinc.3058]

Nashville lost that

[@cameronarsenault1698]

Germanation Highlights Nashville lost by a mile

[@RobTalksHockey]

If you consider what unraveled up until today, Montreal is my clear winner. But if you asked a few months ago, I’d say it was a win-win

[@Phoenix-yc6pt]

Nashville lost that trade considering how they've been doing this season and what happened in the off season.

[@isellonbro1461]

Neal pionk for jaccob trouba and a first looking dreadful

[@dan-b-gone6557]

Daddy? Daaaaaaddy?

[@wizenedcactus9449]

The jets won the pionk trouba trade

[@Nashotter]

Where’s P.K. for Weber

[@harkamalphangura2958]

J . T miller

[@connormcmatthews1963]

Seth Jones for Johansen was not a win-win! Seth Jones is really better, so the Jackets win it in my opinions

[@SJD1982]

Teravainen, Bean and 2020 4th for Skjei, Buchnevich, Kravstov and 2020 4th Good Hockey Trade??

[@tjmmjt857]

No

[@hotdogwater7037]

staal for johansson...not

[@braddean939]

Rob Creates Clickbait

[@turkeydinner8257]

Love your videos but god damn why you gotta talk so fast .

[@Galf1]

:)

[@tommygoode9644]

This video aged poorly. Kapanen was traded back to the pens for nothing.