The BLACKPINK 9 - How BLACKPINK ALMOST Looked Completely Different

[@InternetsNathan]

LETS FIGHT! Pink Venom or Shut Down? 🤔😈

[@jiminismyfirstlove]

pink venom, i love jenlisa's rap part in the second verse and jennie's first rap 😩🔥

[@mimanshatiwari3783]

SHUT DOWN

[@x.twlrd23]

Shut Down obsessed with rosé whip it whip it

[@sur_un_nuage]

pink venom just refuses to leave my brain

[@elangbam3115]

I like both

[@lalisaluhme]

It would really interesting if we could ever hear the pinks talk about the original idea of Pink Punk or the eliminated trainees. Lisa is still close with some of these old trainees so I'm curious to know what it was like for her to see her friends leave like that...

[@BlinkTomB]

I think Jennie talked about how hard it was seeing a lot of her trainee friends leave.

[@milkyuuu6170]

I think Jennie specifically talked about the experience of seeing girls she trained with be eliminated or having to walk them to the door. Gathering from the previous YG survival shows, it’s so sad when a trainee gets eliminated especially one that doesn’t “fit” the group’s image.

[@nrmnnk4057]

I agree with your question. it was initially talked about in the Netflix, Blackpink Light up the sky documentary. Jennie said at 17 :45 "Its sad to say, the very first group of people that trained with me, none of them are here with me right now." So it would not only be Lisa to pose this idea, Jennie would be the backbone of the whole story. But the topic has just scratched the surface, and more detail would be nice to hear. maybe even some after thoughts of the girls whom left before and after BlackPink was debute. Jisoo mentioned at 51 :35 that there were 20-30 trainees there, so there has to be a lot of crazy stories to be told. good and bad for sure.

[@sonder8310]

Unfortunately we'll never get any honest words on this, bc a story had to be sold

[@iss7437]

@@sonder8310 maybe in 20 years with a documentary lol

[@guttzzies]

Miyeon really was born to be a star. With either blackpink or gidle, she would still be really famous considering both groups are really popular. Stan gidle and blackpink!

[@Katfully_foody]

I still have the song too

[@TEAM__POSEID0N]

With regard to pre-debut fame, it was actually Jennie and Jisoo who were fully revealed to the public, not Jennie and Rosé. Jennie's face and name were revealed early on. She also performed on national TV as a featured singer in G Dragon's song "Black" and a short while later was featured as a rapper on Lee Hi's "Special" track. Jennie also acted/appeared in G Dragon's "That XX" music video. Before debut, Jisoo's face and name were revealed and she also acted/appeared in music videos, including "I'm Different" (Hi-Suhyun feat. Bobby). Jisoo also appeared/acted in Epik High's "Spoiler" music video in 2014. Everybody knew who she was and knew her name long before Blackpink debuted. Jennie and Jisoo already had their own fans before debut. Rosé and Lisa are the two who were mostly unknown before the group debuted. Rosé was a featured singer in G Dragon's "Without You" (결국) song. BUT her face and name were not revealed or confirmed and she was literally credited on the song as a question mark (?). There were some rumors about who she was and her name was circulated at the rumor level, but nothing was known for certain until after BP debuted. (When G Dragon performed the song in concerts, Rosé did not perform. Other already-debuted artists like Lee Hi and Suhyun performed Rosé's parts in GD concerts. ) Similarly, Lisa's identity remained a mystery until BP debuted. She had appeared very briefly as a dancer in a Taeyang M/V ("Ringa Linga" IIRC), but she was not identified or named or spotlighted in any way. (Her appearance in that video only really became known after BP debuted and her face is never shown very clearly in the music video anyway.) In 2012, YG released a "Who's That Girl" video clip that showed some amazing dancing by an unnamed girl. Her picture was shown in the video thumbnail, but the information lines just showed question marks for things like "name: ?" and "nationality: ?" Who she was remained a mystery until the group debuted in 2016.

[@gaytingz4944]

It didn't help that rosés voice was 2 octaves lower than she normally sings in so literally nobody guessed who the girl was ajjdjdjd

[@llsseye]

lisa also modeled for nonagon before debut and most people knew her as lalice then 😂

[@llsseye]

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[@llsseye]

another one with BI and BOBBY 2014 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZXWqqp-nbFleJI

[@ecarglaitselec2807]

LISA HAS WHO'S THAT GIRL.... ROSÉ ARE THE TOTALLY UNKNOWN...HERE NAME ON GD COLLAB IS ( ? )..

[@baemon_trsr_BP_iKon_W._2ne1_BB]

Sixteen is known as the show where almost every contestant ended up debuting in a group or as a soloist, but Pink Punk surprises me even more. Every trainee, who was considered as member of the group, works in kpop industry

[@Kokila_Parag_Modi]

Literally everyone associated with Twice and Blackpink becomes successful, this is POWER

[@sahikun]

bruh out of all of these trainees that didnt make it, it was sua that i was clenching my teeth waiting for. she was in the dungeon for way too long and for someone that is hella talented. i feel so bad

[@lunacxx1330]

I mean yeah 12 years total training (10 in YG)… and she was in the F2NE1 lineup 😭

[@andreahl3494]

I didn't even know she was in YG until her face was flashed on the screen during the intro. For a "rapper" I always found her vocal tone so nice and unique and it's obvious she can sing if her label gives the go-sign. To add, she's got amazing stage presence and energy. She's my favorite in BILLLIE, and coming next is Suhyeon

[@mellow_doodle3998]

ya I first saw sua on unpretty Rapstar and immediately fall in love with her and rooting for her but when she don't debuted in blackpink it kind of makes me sad but the staff revealed the are planning on debut two girl group like with winner and ikon and second sua is talented but like blackpink have that model type of visual which is missing on sua so they decided to put her on the other group but yg being yg they promising from long-time they gone debut their next girl group but till now there is no chances at least now she debuted and shinning in billlie if she still with yg she probably gone locked in dungeon.

[@marvelytomas6149]

yg did sua soooo dirty… like 10 YEARS 💀So glad she got out and was able to debut with Billlie 🫶🏽

[@KPOPJunkee]

Miyeon, Jinny, Moon Sua, and Kim Euna in the SAME group.....by gawd 😳

[@Fuzzy_Llama]

I was rooting for Kim Euna for a long time, hoping she would find the success she greatly deserved. while it's sad she left the industry, I'm happy she's happy now. PS. KHAN was amazing in Vocal Play.

[@itsiraa]

it’s funny. Blackpink got me into Kpop in 2018 and now Billlie are my 4th gen ULTS. I love them so much. Moon Sua fits into Billlie like I can’t explain it. They all go well together. I’m happy she got to make her dream come true

[@agentreign228]

This always made me curious and made me ask what if Blackpink were 9 instead of 4 but then I came to the realization that it wouldn't be Blackpink at all if the final lineup wasn't what it ended up being with just Jisoo, Jennie, Rosé and Lisa. The Blackpink we know and love wouldn't exist. The main thing that makes Blackpink Blackpink is the fact that each member is very clearly different and can stand on their own and they shine as a group as much as individuals - something that is basically impossible to happen to the BP degree if they had a lot of members - voices would get mixed, it would be a mess most of the time, each member would barely have any individual singing time, etc. On top of that, I feel like all 4 girls together encapsulate everything that is there to have in k-pop and any additional members would either be filler or just add more of the same characteristics. If you look at the rapper line and the vocal line in BP, each of them is different in their own category. While both Lisa and Jennie rap, their rap styles are completely different. While both Rosé and Jisoo have beautiful voices, their vocal tone and range are in the opposite ends of the spectrum with Rosé having a higher pitch and higher range and Jisoo having a soothing lower tone and able to hit lower notes comfortably. It's the different and contrasting dynamics that make Blackpink who they are and if you add more members, the likelihood is that that dynamic contrast would fade into a gradient which would temper down significantly the dynamic sound of Blackpink.

[@runydays]

u wrote a whole paragraph?

[@agentreign228]

@@runydays look... yes 😭 let me pretend my obsession is normal.

[@vanthadoun1]

I like reading thorough analysis and I read your paragraph and agree. Having more members means less time for each person. I wrote the same analysis. I listen to Twice and Blackpink and with Twice I can barely tell which member is singing because they have 9 members!!!! With Blackpink I can tell who is singing because there is clear difference between each members voice and range.

[@renshuuu]

Kim eunas story made me so sad. I remember the ark was actually one of the first groups i followed. They got big for some of their covers. The reason it disbanded wasnt because it flopped, but because one of the vocalists had a issue and left, and i guess they just disbanded after that ): i still have the light on my playlist for nostalgia.

[@shatteredshards8549]

Their main vocal got vocal nodules. It's doubly sad that Euna and Minju formed Khan and things didn't work out again.

[@gabriella9079]

Can you share a link to your nostalgia playlist please?

[@KTxAshy]

I miss them so much honestly but I'm also happy to see that the members of The Ark are happy with their own lives. I still check out their individual IGs when I miss them from time to time. That group was so unique for me because most girl groups that time had girly concepts while they released BIL dance cover and their intro dance, and it was full on swag. Just so badass.

[@stkm85]

Sua is sooo amazing!! Currently obsessed with her performances in the show Second World! Glad she didn't gave up after leaving YG.

[@rogue8059]

I really felt bad for Kim Euna, she was regarded as one of the best trainee yet somehow fate wouldn't let her be an idol. But I guess it was for the best, which I hope she really is happy with her life now

[@TEAM__POSEID0N]

For some people, I sometimes think they probably are better off not becoming idols. If being a successful idol is someone's first and basically only dream and goal, then I guess that's ideal for them. But for many of them, I think they don't really understand what they're giving up for that dream until it's too late. When they're very young, they have a dream that's more fantasy than reality. They think they can become a successful and rich idol and then everything is "happy ever after" from then on. They don't realize that when they're in their mid-thirties or something the idol career will basically be all over, and they'll need to find a meaningful life path that is mostly outside of the spotlight. But if they didn't really focus on family life and other career areas before then, they'll easily just spend much of the rest of their life not knowing what to do with themselves.

[@rogue8059]

@@TEAM__POSEID0N I just can't help feel bad about the fact that they pretty much spent their childhood training to be an idol and their youth in trying to have a career out of it for it not have any lasting result. Just thinking how it can be so damaging to your mental health. But I guess Euna is a strong person bec she didn't immediately quit after one fail and she kept trying. So maybe she also came to realize life just wanted something else for her and she's happy with her life right now

[@hotsauce1328]

The former Yg Trainees seemed to be really talented and hard working people, but sometimes fate has other plans... Hope everyone achieves their own definition of success 😍

[@citizencr4o]

Thank you for covering Euna Kim's story so well. I loved the song "The Light" by The Ark, especially that heartbreaking music video, and then learned a lot about the group members after hearing the song years ago. It makes me happy to know more people will learn about Euna and The Ark after seeing this video.

[@robertabrams8562]

I’ve seen videos about “Pink Punk” and the other five members who didn’t succeed, and I’ve always been curious about how BP would’ve sounded with nine members instead of the current four!? That would’ve been really challenging for Teddy for sure…great video Nathan (nice beard bro)!

[@TEAM__POSEID0N]

A huge part of BP's success is also related to their personalities. With a 4-member group, it's much easier to focus more time on each member and much easier for fans to learn who they are. In songs, they each get more time to shine. For me, 9-member groups are just too chaotic. When they perform on stage, it's like a platoon of people moving around and the camera is either jumping from one to another to another so fast that nobody really gets any focus...OR...the songs and camera focus more on a few members while other member are stuck in some kind of status that is in between being backup dancers and group members.

[@gilaydilay463]

True

[@Therealprincess95]

I agree 9 people is way to many for me

[@Esandeech2]

9 people arent too much when you’re a big fan of the group. I remember feeling overwhelmed by Girls’ Generation at the beginning but when you know each face it becomes less chaotic

[@moongirl8807]

I mean I get what you mean but literally almost every other group would have to disagree. There are huge groups that are equally as successful plus don't have such a problem with solo stans for some reason.

[@gilaydilay463]

Because they are not famous like BP

[@junpi8562]

I knew about Miyeon and Jinnie, but I didn't have a clue that there was an ex trainee in Billie!

[@lunarlino]

I used to be EXTREMELY dedicated to the "almost" members of Blackpink to the point that even 2 years later I recognized all but 1 of their names. I remember Miyeon (ofc I'm a Neverland), Hannah, Eunbi, Euna, and Jinny. I recognize the The Ark, Khan, and Secret Number. BUT, I had NO IDEA of Moon Sua's existence until she debuted in Billie. I think that's because it's seen as "The Blackpink Nine" by most people and the inclusion of Moon Sua makes that 10 and also because I don't remember her being in any "almost Blackpink members" videos.

[@nopeyou9578]

i am happy with our 4 girls, the perfect amount of people in the group and perfect group chemistry, can't imagine them with the other mentioned girls in the video

[@rvermillion8188]

Eunha Kim, ffs…! The Ark was an inspiring rookies back then, that one song stole my heart and made me bawl. Another proof that talent is not only thing that made an artist survive, but also company support. Inthought Jang Hanna will have a bright future after that featuring song, but yg did Lee Hi dirty so imagine what happened to Hanna. I hope all of them happy in whatever they are pursuing now ❤

[@kimlip_tree2009]

RING MA BELL!!!! that song has been stuck in my head all day lol

[@borntobeblink4688]

Born to be a BLINK 💗

[@lunacxx1330]

PINKPUNK ARE FOREVER LEGENDARY. AND IM GLAD ALL THE GIRLS ARE DOING SOMETHING THEY WANT TO NOW

[@Revival85]

i dont think BLACKPINK would be as big as they are if they were 9, BP are unique thats what makes them BP, each girls skill compliments the others

[@DawnMirror31243]

They would not rise in the US that's for sure. Being able to tell the difference between each member and their voice helps foreigners learn who they are and be interested in them

[@victoriarooks784]

Yeah but I would like to see yg manage a big girl group just for the heck of it

[@rottenhoho]

yeah i agree

[@denisecab]

@@victoriarooks784 Let's wait for yngg that's for sure

[@atreya2727]

Moon Sua never was in the line up for Blackpink. She was part of "Future 2NE1", which should have debuted after Pink Punk (Blackpink). But given that everything was delayed for years that simply didn't happen.

[@agumontaichi422]

The only completely hidden trainee back then was Rosé, no one know her until she was introduced as last Blackpink member..Pink Punk teaser with Jennie was released in 2012, Rosé just become a trainee in that year, in the same year of Rosé become a trainee, they directly use her vocals to be featured in G Dragon's song in 2012..she is the hidden 💎 of YG

[@lavendervvitch99]

Great video! I feel terrible for Kim Euna...I hope one day she takes a crack at music again, even if she stays independent. The Ark's story is so sad. But I'm glad she's found happiness in her life. I'm so proud of all the other trainees too. Billlie is one of my favorite groups now, and I can see them being very successful (especially since they've got that SM money). And big props to Jang Hannah for going independent; I'll definitely have to check out her stuff now.

[@fatimaaguilar5148]

Denisse was also a YG trainee, I remember back in the day we even speculated there were 2 girl teams since we had pictures of the girls moving together in 2 different vans and they were always the same. We even made bets on which group would debut first! Hahaha

[@sabrinaleedance]

IMO , the reason Blackpink did so well in America and the west is bc of their size. 4 group members is alot easier for Americans to digest and connect too, it's also similar to most of our girl groups in size from the past. I remember how I first saw them on Good Morning America and I was like wow! There's only 4 and not 50 million like every other Kpop group I've seen. I need to learn more about them all! And they all stood out in some way to me. It is a lot harder to stand out in a larger group. Twice is very popular but for me it took me years to actually decide to give them a chance because of the daunting amount of members. Even though I'm now a Once , it took a lot of being used to Kpop lol

[@vanthadoun1]

agreed

[@_EllaLost]

loving the sua and billlie promo, but Sua was never in the lineup for blackpink. She was on the lineup for Future2ne1 which should have been a group that would debut after pinkpunk because she was too young to debut with them.

[@heidisupple3259]

Sua and Jinni are two of my biases, so it's crazy to think of them in BP! They're all so talented! Pink Venom!

[@elangbam3115]

Blackpink members had to literally go through YG dungeon style hunger games with other bunch of talented girls to survive elimination. No wonder Blackpink is dominating music chart now.

[@InternetsNathan]

I had a lot of fun making this mini documentary about the BLACKPINK 9! Let me know, do you think BLACKPINK would be as successful as they are now as a 9 members group?

[@mimanshatiwari3783]

It'd be EXTREMELY strong. Would it be just as successful? Yes. Would all the members be as popular as they are today? No. The fact that they're 4 and all different actually helps them to easily be recognised worldwide.

[@vchukim3369]

No

[@DannoWitwicky]

I don't think BP would have been as sucessful as a 9 member group and it was abit smart of YG to debut as a 4 member group. This made it easier for people to get to know the BP girls over the years as it was just 4 talented girls. It would have been harder to try to get to know 9 BP members. If BP debuted with 9 members, they would have been in direct competition with TWICE with 9 members who debuted just a year before and building up their fan base. So it was strategically a smart move from YG i think! And it obviously paid off!

[@Therealprincess95]

Great Documentary. I think would nine would be too many 4 was perfect.

[@BlinkTomB]

As a group, yes. But individually as a 4 member group they are as successful outside of their music. I don’t think they will have that much endorsements if they were 9.

[@faashionforward]

I don’t think vocal similarities with Rosé was the main problem with Jang Hanna and I believe she was probably gearing up to debut in Blackpink considering YG pushing her back into the spotlight through M&M and the Jinusean collab. I think the latter was what ruined things though; knetz’s reactions to her visuals were so negative, with some asking YG not to debut her and stick to his plan of making a visually appealing girl group for once (whatever that means). I remember feeling so bad for her bc I thought she was a cute girl. Considering YG’s habit of throwing a bone out there to gauge the public’s reaction to things, I feel like how people commenting on her looks may have played a part in her exclusion from the group.

[@nicolesalinas3126]

Omg Moon Sua is really insane!!!

[@ogrefour688]

Miyeon & Lisa my ultimate bias 💚💛 (g)idle & blackpink my ultimate group 💜🖤

[@whatchahowsya8688]

Euna is pronounced "Yoo-na." She's said before that she left YG because she felt she wasn't good enough after seeing the talented YG trainees. She didn't feel confident and left back to the US. After being back home, she decided she didn't want to give up on her dreams and thus made a return to Korea and joined UPR.

[@christianmarling]

I don't know if she would've been part of this "Blackpink 9", but fromis_9s Lee Seoyeon was part of Future 2NE1 too

[@Nameless_mixes]

SME: *Debuts a 9 member girl group in 2007* JYPE: *Debuts a 9 member group in 2015* YGE: *Is about to debut a 9 member group in 2016* “Quick! Change of plans! Your four, you get to debut! Everyone else, figure something out! 😫”

[@dicksonl.5512]

I think its just smart business sense. The top GG of 2nd gen was undoubtedly SNSD and they had 9 original members, Twice was built upon SNSD's template. YG was looking to follow the same route but decided to stick with 2NE1's formula. We are seeing history repeat itself now where 4th Gen GG are building upon BP's template/formula

[@armywhoblinkedatanexo-l]

@@dicksonl.5512 You mean aespa? 🙃

[@dicksonl.5512]

@@armywhoblinkedatanexo-l i would say most of the 4th gen are loosely based on BP template even if they have slightly more than 4 members. and it's not really something to be criticized... you only copy what is good & succesful. No one try to copy failure

[@armywhoblinkedatanexo-l]

@@dicksonl.5512 True

[@renielonos508]

Actually, JYP and YG wants to create a SNSD version under their company a 9 member group. But something happens only jyp produce 9 member group under their company and since yg got BP they tag them or some tag them as the Pretty/Beautiful version of 2NE1

[@Fanciest_Hatter]

That angers me that YG says Black Pink is a prettier version of 2ne1 because Black Pink is Black Pink n 2ne1 is 2ne1

[@dimis.D]

everything happens for a reason In Blackpink's case it was the right decision . Knowing the current status of BP as the biggest gg in the world and highest charting female k-pop group , it's hard to imagine what would be with 9 members bc it's sounds to me like a triple trouble . I mean YGE and 9 girls in one group? :D they are struggling to manage 4 what about 9 lol Our fandom is split in 4 solo stans sections so it's already pain in the ass for us THE OT4 stans . btw Jisoo wasn't mystery for the general public, she was known years before her debut . she appeared in music videos, like "I'm Different" by Hi-Suhyun feat. Bobby 2014. and also acted in Epik High's "Spoiler" music video from 2014 No one also knew that Rose was the girl singing with GD since she was marked with (?) instead of her name. pretty big mistake from Nathan just like ASIAN THEORY did for Jisoo .

[@naurrr]

I'm glad Sua went to Billlie, they're an incredibly talented and unique group. YG really missed out on her and she's so talented!

[@adam234ization]

If there is any chance to reboot Blackpink as whatever the name is. Only Miyeon and Sua as 6 member. Both Visual match with 4, both had talent that fitting with the music, i almost pick Jinni, but no. Sua is a Gem Rapper. Also Miyeon would synch well with Rosè and Jisoo.

[@juanpau5224]

They are perfect as they are now. They wouldn't be this big if there were 5 or 9 of them. Especially the equal visual of jisoo, jennie, lisa and rosé are internationally recognized. I just want to know how other artist who were supposed to be BP member feel.

[@cinnamaricat]

i had no idea moon sua almost debuted in blackpink that's literally insane to me since i ended up stanning her as a member of billlie i'm happy she left yg but it sucks that they threw someone so talented in the basement

[@cannedheat300]

It looks like YG doesn't feel the need to throw out idol groups just for the sake of productivity. Most of if not all of their groups have been successful even if short-lived. I'll be sure to check out "Billie".

[@moonlight_orange]

Please do 💜💙💜💙💜

[@rionriley8518]

Blackpink has a solid and powerful line up. All of these girls has a fierceness to them, no doubt from being trained at YG. They all would’ve over saturated the group a bit. It’s rare that you’d find a group with that many aces so I understand why YG cut some of them. All of them have similar sounds as well, especially the rappers. It would’ve been an amazing group though, no doubt.

[@11ssrfm]

billlie is my ult group and i've never heard about sua being in blackpink's lineup, that's shocking!

[@userhdbfdfjkhfdhf]

Miyoen is still hanging out with Lisa until now.

[@Saf1.Bowman]

Thanks to you Nathan I learned about so many k-pop idols. All these trainees go through hell and hot water just to be recognized. I respect their decisions to either push on or leave, seeing some of these ladies perform before they left or eventually debut was really something. I mean, Euna Kim brought so much to the table, her voice whether singing or rapping was on point for me. For those eight years she hustled just to let people know she is force to be reckon with, especially with her video "Without You Now" feat. Yoon Mi-rae, Tiger JK, Bizzy. She has her own look and style and the companies were trying to mold her into something of their own brand instead of seeing what is already there. Thank you again brother for keeping all of us informed.

[@afterjune2]

imagine a special stage for all of these nine girls performing...

[@merishabasumatary3727]

I couldn't see any other girl as blackpink other than our BLACKPINK which includes JISOO, JENNIE, ROSÈ & LISA like nevahhh!!! These 4 girls just fits right!!!

[@ishie19.78]

U dont know those idol… some of those idols are better than the current members… thats coming from someone who followed them

[@kazutora_]

Yep I totally agree

[@the_realmkc4452]

would be much better wo Stiffsoo

[@momokoblue8032]

You say that now but if there had been an extra member or two you wouldn’t have known the difference.

[@sergiocasique733]

I think Jinny wasn't a part of "Future 2NE1", it was Park Seo Young. But since the two of them were ex trainees of YG, they presented like a duo in Produce 48.

[@LeyKT]

The die had been cast the day Rosie entered the dorm and met her 3 sisters. Their super strong bond made the final cut.

[@jamilla4101]

the way you ended this video gave me chills i love this channel

[@peacelife]

YG really have a full pack of talents. Imagine actual 9 debut. Love Kim Eunha! Her rap was so good and her voice is unique. Sadly! She is went back to the west after tried so many time but not success. She wants to live a normal life I'm sure it best for her but I hope to see her will emerge back to kpop one day. Sua is also great rapper. Love her song on Unpretty rapper omg.

[@AzureSteel]

It's a shame Miyeon didn't become a BP member...she would have fit like a GLOVE.

[@Balerion_thedread]

Nah i feel like miyeons role is perfectly filled in by jisoo

[@jiminismyfirstlove]

wtf?! my babie sua was supposed to be there?! omg!! she's so talented, not just with her rapping skills, but she also has an amazing and pretty high vocals! i've been watching her cover of bts' the truth untold repeatedly because i just can't move on with her voice. what pushed yg to stuck her in their basement? 🙄 well, at least, she has a group now that has great songs. please support them! 💗

[@myairin5411]

They had too many female rappers.. they shouldvr debuted another group

[@cpv314]

There were 2 groups that trained together, Pinkpunk and Future 2NE1. As far as I know, Sua was a member of F21 but didn't make the cut to be in PP maybe because of her age or she doesn't fit the concept YG had for PP. After Blackpink's debut, many (including me) waited for F21's debut, but YG decided to launch a survival show for a new boy group instead. Sua of Billlie, Seoyeon of Formis_9, Youha (Sooah), Roya (Seoyoung) were the members of F21. After years of waiting, they decided to leave YG. Sua was the first one to join YG, and also the last one to leave.

[@guenl1325]

Oh man I had no idea Euna was part of the potential blackpink line up! I remember loving her on the unit. I'm your girl is such a good song 😭 I miss her.

[@lakatster]

We know Miyeon’s in touch with Lisa still, but I want some Miyeon crumbs with Jennie, Rosé and Jisoo.

[@kweenkarr]

She’s in touch with Rosé too. Rosé and Lisa actually gifted a YSL bag to Miyeon for her birthday :)

[@lakatster]

@@kweenkarr She probably is - but I think the bag came from Minnie and Lisa.

[@zitimotleyxxjmxx]

I'm really happy for the girl who left the industry after multiple setbacks and eventually started a normal life and got married. One could argue that being a global superstar can be as gratifying and fulfilling as being happily married with the love of your life and starting a family. Maybe Kpop was just not for her. She can still write songs and maybe work with other artists/producers in the US. There are so many ways you can get into the industry now without being in the frontline.

[@rkhandle]

Damm… so many ppl Yang Hyun Suk picked up from Kpop star and didn’t actually debut. That really sucks. I remember when he was trying super hard to recruit Lily M. (Whom I’m really glad she chose JYP over JG). YG is super cut throat… I feel really bad for the other girls who didn’t get to debut.

[@TEAM__POSEID0N]

He got Lee Hi and AKMU. They are clearly the most successful acts to come out of Kpop Star. But he mostly wasted Lee Hi's time during the 7 years that she was at YG and she spent a total of 6-years on hiatus. If Lee Hi hadn't been able to get help from Epik High to produce her Seoulite album, she would have had nothing but one album and one mini-album to show for her 7 years at YG. There are also indications that popular TV dramas wanted to have Lee Hi do OSTs for them, but YG rejected the offers. YG also wasted Katie Kim's time. She was the winner of S4 of Kpop Star (the same season that Lily M was in it) and was supposed to get an album produced by YG as part of the winner's deal. YG did nothing for her and finally just cut her loose. Her album came out after she left YG, but YG said that she was able to use YG facilities and stuff and worked with a YG producer, so that sort of counted as YG helping her with her album. Hanna Jang is a really good singer, but YG also wasted her time at YG and then let her go. Denise Kim is another one. I guess Bang Yedam is sort of doing okay in Treasure. YG has always had a really hard time multi-tasking. It seems like the top management want to control everything, so there's never enough time to focus on more than a few acts. They should figure out ways to really focus on their top acts, but also have other teams that know how to be successful and profitable in managing less famous acts on a reasonable cost-profit basis.

[@rkhandle]

@@TEAM__POSEID0N damm… that’s a lot of wasted talent. YG is pretty inefficient for such a big name company. I guess that’s one area JYP and Hybe probably have YG beat.

[@kayleuwu2238]

woow you literally just searched for the most fast and easy information about miyeon XDD Miyeon was never kicked out for dating , she said herself in a radio show that she left YG due to her debut being thwarted, she dated Jinhyeong afterwards and they were photographed in Japan when both weren't YG trainees anymore

[@HailToTheMeep]

That repeating one bar Paganini in the background 💀

[@auespaa]

I don't think they would be blackpink they are today, 9 members?? that's a lot for non-kpop fans, and all of them are beautiful but the final four girls have something magnetic and unique about them

[@HelloMello91]

Woooww Nathan!! You did such an amazing job on this video with the editing and content. It really comes off as a quality documentary!!

[@rogue8059]

I think it was clear what YG was aiming when debuting blackpink. They wanted to debut girls that had little visibility in the public. Jennie was basically the only member that the public has been exposed to but not too much, Rosé was credited as a YG trainee on GD's song, so practically nobody knows anything about the members. Their pre-debut promotions was just one dance practice and when they debuted they didn't do any tv appearances outside music shows, they didn't do any interviews at all. So YG wanted blackpink to be this mysterious group, with not only great talents but all being visuals.

[@Balerion_thedread]

Jisoo after in various CFS ...acted with Dara and lee hi...she was also in epik High vdeo ,

[@x.twlrd23]

I think YG new girl group is gonna debut next year in 2023 Because Swi.T debuted in 2002 and 7 years later 2ne1 debuted and then again 7 years later Blackpink debuted wich means Baemon will debut next year when Blackpink contract will expire

[@Balerion_thedread]

Yes and no ..yes i think YG will debut a new gg in 2023 but i don't think YG will disband bp...2ne1 had a big Scandal which they couldnt recover, so they had to disband them meanwhile bp have never had a big Scandal in thier career (and fyi dating is not a scandal)...YG has no reason to disband them,it literally makes no sense..when 2ne1 disbanded YG had bigbang to rely on,they also had winner and ikon who were monster rookies at that time,plus YG also had other solo artists and groups like psy,lee hi and epik High ..now most of them have left YG and the only group who are relevant in YG is bp only...yes treasure is doing good in thier own ways but they ain't even the top10 biggest boygroup ryt now..winner and ikon's popularity are at an all time low...so unless a big big Scandal hits bp, there's no way YG will disband them

[@sweety3303]

@@Balerion_thedread that's really sad, all yg artists r packed with talent n the name yg was such a huge thing back then but the way they r managing bp right now with barely 1 comeback in 2 yrs, i don't know how it'll work out, there maybe members who wants to solely focus on music which yg isn't giving them! Maybe they'll work out a better contract or maybe not. Either way it'll be a shame if bp did end up disbanding or a member leaving the group with their status in the music scene at the moment

[@Balerion_thedread]

@@sweety3303 i really don't see bp leaving YG...YG really needs bp and the girls seems to like it in there too..yes YG sucks in promoting them but still they don't overwork thier artists like other companies and YG also pays much more compared to other companies...its crazy as it sounds but i really don't see another kpop company better suited for BP other than YG..maybe hybe?? I know the girls gonn negotiate hard when the contract ends coz they have really outgrown YG and kpop as a whole so i hope they demand more comebacks and more writing credits...

[@iGotBulletproof-Insomnia]

Ah.... I am so happy for Euna Kim! She'd crossed my mind several times since Khan, I'm glad she's found some happiness.

[@statesofgracie]

forever grateful miyeon found her home with gidle

[@BlazinNSoul]

Being a trainee would be like being in Boot camp. Yet I wonder how rough it woukd be for though who didn’t make the cut? I heard there were trainees for like 10 years that never debuted as OMG. Can you imagine so much of your life just going up into thin air like that? I know Bom was one of YG's longest Idol trainees. She was orgionally supposed to debut as an R&B artist. "Baby Boy"which was on Lexy's third Album Rush. Was a side of Bom I never had seen & makes me wish Bom got a better deal. She was so good yet so underrepresented here as was Lexy as well. :/

[@lisashi6369]

That's why we called it destiny. If all the trainees successfully debuted as pink punk, Blackpink doesn't exist.

[@ryandaveguico1290]

Honestly even YG may be @**holes in the eyes of the fandom of their artists...it can't be denied that they truly know if a person is Star Quality plus their Production and promotional skills, truly a recipe for success.

[@gaius5901]

Jinny was not in Future 2ne1 and Sua was never in the line up for BLACKPINK

[@aoyagitoyasno.1lover]

I find it a fun coincidence how Euna was meant to debut in BLACKPINK with Miyeon too, who would now be a (G)I-DLE member and Euna was in Unpretty Rapstar 3, a show Soyeon was in too and is now a (G)I-DLE member too.

[@rogue8059]

Just thinking about how much YG wasted great talents bec they just don't know how to handle them, or they aren't able to handle multiple artists. Like they are a company with the knack of finding hidden gems, but that's just it, they're just collecting them to put in their basement display instead of exposing them to the world

[@TEAM__POSEID0N]

I think I hear Lee Hi saying AMEN! YG actually seems to be focused mainly on (1) making and promoting boy idol groups and, with much lower priority, (2) making and promoting girl idol groups. Blackpink's explosive popularity has in many ways turned YG's world upside-down, and probably surprised the company in a big way, since they invested probably easily 10 times more in promoting and developing their new boy groups in the 2014/2015 era (and also their other new boy group in 2019) than they ever invested in promoting and developing Blackpink. Blackpink basically earned in advance the money that has been invested in them AFTER they became super popular. If YG had been a bit more creative, they could have had fantastic success with artists like Lee Hi, Hanna Jang and Suhyun, who don't fit the standard idol template. YG should have just done a series of special projects and albums with them, as well as promoting them as OST queens. They would have been good solo and as a unit. They could also have done some special unit projects with AKMU, letting Chan Hyuk handle the production and so on. YG's problem with artists like that (and Gummy also) is that YG just tries to apply the exact same idol group formula to everyone, even though different approaches could be so much more successful for different types of artists.

[@rogue8059]

@@TEAM__POSEID0N totally agree. It's such a waste. I keep thinking maybe it's really hard for them to handle many artist but then you think of SM, they're able to handle their multiple artists, debuting their solos with different and well crafted concepts for each. So I think it comes down to their perfectionism (even though not everything they release is that good) and mostly misogyny. Because if you think about it, they pretty much allows their male artist the creative freedom. They can actually release multiple music as soon as it's available. Yet somehow it's so hard for their female artist even though there are already recorded songs. Lee hi and CL already had an album ready for release but they won't let them.

[@jiminismyfirstlove]

it's 1:44 am and i was about to sleep, but you popped up :'›

[@gdxclsupremacy154]

I am more curious of what would it look like if YG make a girl group that has a lot of members but looking back at YG's history of releasing girl groups they did not debut a gg that has more than 4 members.

[@JustAnotherBlink]

Baemon coming with 7 members

[@celebiglives9842]

Would’ve still been cool if they created a larger group and called them Blackpink as well. Having some of the members do the “pink” concepts while others do the “black” ones. Kinda like how NCT have their units, the difference being the members are set. THAT would’ve been kinda cool.

[@TEAM__POSEID0N]

Maybe. But I don't think it would have been as successful. Large groups scatter the focus too much. Having only 4 members has been a huge advantage for Blackpink because their personalities can shine more and get more spotlight. If they were just 4 people who had no sparkle in their personalities, it could have been a disaster. But because each member is really interesting, charming and charismatic, those aspects have more impact in a smaller group. I often don't even try to follow the huge groups because it's just frustrating taking time to get to know them and then after you get to know them seeing how little time each member gets to shine and have attention.

[@bblack6868]

No….having 4 is the perfect number…..less is more…..more intimate, to focus, and handle. When you have such individual extraordinary talent like BP , a large group isn’t needed…..they fill up a stage , no matter the size. Also remember…..the girls gravitated to each other, so they really created themselves, and it was YG that took notice and put out what was already there.

[@Esandeech2]

Still wouldnt say its balanced. Jennie and Lisa get the most expose, especially Jennie. I know there will always be a more popular member but sometimes I feel bad for Jisoo and Rosé.

[@elangbam3115]

Been waiting for your content for a long time.

[@jeffhandley3070]

One of the greatest group of trainees maybe in kpop history.

[@Moy_indonesia]

I found myself singing to typa girl😂

[@elithekpopguy9626]

I’m so excited, I love this

[@onepunchman4481]

the talent was definitely there but only four were favoured and the rest discarded or forgotten😢

[@joelreyes4237]

They would have potential if they were in the group but I hope that they will do their best whatever they do in life and I don't like school too Nathan

[@happyfarang]

BP is the perfect balance. If it was 9 they would still do well in korea but worldwide i doubt they would have reached this level.

[@rosienayla375]

Kinda hope YG release "this blackpink" story someday in documentary film or whatever

[@Cherryifeelsospecial]

this was so interesting! i can’t believe what blackpink would’ve been

[@jamesorlando8178]

They wouldn’t have been as popular in the west with so many members

[@monx1983]

Nathan, I was expecting Lee Seo Yeon of Fromis_9 to be included.

[@josealessandrocastanedadel3938]

I love you Nathan! Keep up the good work ❤

[@coniferousbug2395]

For me, I would still prefer the four of them.

[@jojof9626]

The 4 were given the opportunity. Lisa was in MV and also a model of Nonagon prior debuting. Jisoo had commercial with Lee Min Ho even prior.

[@Andy-ne5qi]

Oh my God, Jinny is so stunning. Ive never listened to Secret Number. I kind of wish we could see how she would fit into bp

[@Kanzou]

Im so glad jinny able to write her own rap for secret number song

[@TheEarthRealm]

3:17 - Nope, Jisoo was in at least two YG music videos. I believe one of them was for 'Epik High'.

[@Rxnan23_]

“You know it’s your girl Tsuki” 💀